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Is the Beano magazine a bad influence?

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Jellybeanz1 Mon 17-Jun-13 22:38:43

Hi this is my first thread ever! I was just hoping for some sensible advice. My DH is threatening to throw out all my DS 8years, Beano albums and comics. He loves them dearly but my DS thinks they are a bad influence. ( this weeks was very anti homework which is already a difficult subject to motivate my DS). DH has already got rid of the Thomas the Tank engine books when he was little ( as he didnt like the way they treated each other). Can anyone counter his argument? I dont want another row or to be blamed further down the line. Here's hoping for a quieter life.

Salmotrutta Mon 17-Jun-13 22:39:41

Eh?

Really?

bobthebear Mon 17-Jun-13 22:41:01

grin is this for real??

bobthebear Mon 17-Jun-13 22:41:22

Oops that was supposed to be a shock

bigbuttons Mon 17-Jun-13 22:42:02

Your dh sounds crazy.

livinginwonderland Mon 17-Jun-13 22:42:02

it's not half term somewhere, is it?

youmeatsix Mon 17-Jun-13 22:42:13

if he lays blame at dennis & thomas you will NEVER have a quiet life!

Bobyan Mon 17-Jun-13 22:42:26

Give him Viz and then see what effect it has.

mrsjay Mon 17-Jun-13 22:44:00

that damn Dennis the menace what is he like grin is your husband always so loony about things . I cant have a counter arguement because it is so mental it is a kids comic maybe your DH should address your sons behaviour himself and not blame poor thomas and dennis

Yep. Dennis us to blame for all the world's ills.

ghayes Mon 17-Jun-13 22:45:30

I don't know what the Beano is like nowadays. I remember having annuals of Beano and Dandy as a kid where some of the stories were of kids playing truant and having adventures. There was also Dennis the Menace bullying Walter the Softy.

IfIonlyhadsomesleep Mon 17-Jun-13 22:46:05

No - quite the opposite I think. Children understand it's comedy. It's a kind of fantasy of what they'd like to be able to get away with but would never dream of doing. Almost if its in the Beano then they know its bad behaviour. But that's over thinking it-it's just funny and kids enjoy it.

bobthebear Mon 17-Jun-13 22:47:18

To be fair I remember DH having a tantrum over DS (who was 4ish at the time) standing at the top of some stairs in a shopping centre and doing the whole 'na na na na na' thing whilst sticking his tongue out and running away. Apparently that was all down to Horrid Henry!

RiotsNotDiets Mon 17-Jun-13 22:49:01

I loved the beano

but I have turned into a horribly mischievous individual, not only do I regularly put stamps on envelopes upside down, but i also park in parent and toddler spaces at asda when I don't even have DD with me.

BURN THEM

UniS Mon 17-Jun-13 22:49:35

The Beano influences my lad ....
Thanks to the beano he has built a giant wooden catapult that he can't use ( its too big), makes dens in the garden and behind the sofa that grown ups are banned from, believes that playing in the park with your mates is cool and thinks fart jokes are funny. AND is willing to wear a rd n black stripey rugby top thus making him instantly recogniseable at a distance.

The Beano is great from kids age 7- 11 ish, none of them like homework or boring stuff like shopping anyway. The comic encourages reading, jokes don;t make sense if you don't read them right. Its Not based on a TV show and its doesn't cost 5 quid or have a bit of plastic tat stuck to it every week.

MiniTheMinx Mon 17-Jun-13 22:50:00

I think the Beano should be required reading for every child grin

ghayes Mon 17-Jun-13 22:51:34

I haven't seen any kids with peashooters or catapults for years.

Actually. I am bloody delighted there are children still enjoying the Beano.

MummyMastodon Mon 17-Jun-13 22:52:46

Hmm. If memory serves, all the 'cool' characters hated school, while the softies loved maths etc?

No idea if it is still like that.

I'll bet folding money it doesn't still have Little Plum the Native American boy though. "Um squaw is in um wigwam" or however it went.

edam Mon 17-Jun-13 22:54:36

I think your husband sounds like quite nasty. Threatening to throw out possessions that ds 'loves dearly' is just mean.

The comics belong to ds. They are not dh's to throw away. How would he feel if you just threw some of his possessions away?

IfIOnlyHad is right, the comics are fantasy - kids know perfectly well it is a joke. It's supposed to be fun, not taken literally, fgs! But actually there is a serious purpose - comics and fiction are safe spaces for children to imagine how the world would be if the rules were subverted. You can explore the idea of rebellion without having to actually rebel and risk real-life consequences.

When ds brings home a Horrible Histories book from school, will dh throw it away because it makes fun of a serious topic? Will he never be allowed to read Captain Underpants, or Roderick Rules? Tell your husband to read his own books/magazines/newspapers and leave ds alone!

Oh, and make sure dh doesn't go anywhere near the South Bank in London - I went with ds and a friend and her kids. Clearly it's only sheer good luck that none of them have been expelled/arrested in the week since...

Shallishanti Mon 17-Jun-13 22:54:59

DS1 was completely obsessed with the beano, to the point that when we were on holiday and weren't able to buy that weeks's issue we had to phone our corner shop to reserve it to collect on our return. DS now doing a degree in speech therapy.
will that do for your dh? grin

piprabbit Mon 17-Jun-13 22:56:07

Well my 70yo DDad grew up on a diet of Thomas the Tank Engine (first published in 1945) and the Beano (1938) and he and the generations that followed him seem to have grown up OK.

I think your DH is verging on the deranged - what stories did he enjoy as a child.

Salmotrutta Mon 17-Jun-13 22:56:15

Is it because Charles and Camilla are in it after visiting DC Thomson?

Shallishanti Mon 17-Jun-13 22:56:23

oh, and what edam said, too!

Jellybeanz1 Mon 17-Jun-13 22:56:52

Thanks Ifionlyhadsomesleep I love listening to my son chuckling when he reads them. So far nothing's been acted out. I'm pretty fed up with the plastic catapults. My DH suggests Aquila or Okido but they seem a bit pricey and I'm not sure if they are fun as I've not seen any in the shops.

It's good to have reassurance that he's over thinking it.

insanityscratching Mon 17-Jun-13 22:56:57

Dd loves the Beano it's her Thursday treat. She's probably one of the easiest and most well behaved children known to man so it doesn't seem to be having a detrimental effect. I've even bought her vintage comics and annuals where Dennis gets walloped weekly but she hasn't shown any propensity for violence yet. I'd advise you keep the Beanos and you tell your dh to get a grip.

edam Mon 17-Jun-13 22:57:05

Ooh, shallishanti reminded me, I loved the Beano as a kid (and Mandy, and Twinkle, and the Dandy, and every comic I could get my hands on) and I grew up to be... a journalist. Which, depending on your dh, may be an argument for. Or against!

Salmotrutta Mon 17-Jun-13 22:58:29
Salmotrutta Mon 17-Jun-13 22:59:36

And The Dandy stopped last year sad - you can on,y get it online now.

weblette Mon 17-Jun-13 23:01:15

Ha Edam me too!

All of my 4 read it, there are fights as to who gets it first - they range in age from 5-13, girl and 3 boys.

Your dh sounds a joyless arse, sorry.

I only opened this thread because I thought it was going to be one about 'what threads would have been on mumsnet in the 1950's' grin

sadAbout the Dandy. I loved that one. Am I right in thinking it had Ivy the Terrible in it? smile

MrsLyman Mon 17-Jun-13 23:11:29

Hmm, on the one hand I agree with you the Beano didn't do me any harm, but on the other I can't stand Thomas the Thank engine and will always steer DS1 away from them at bedtime as they are all really horrible to each other (the author clearly has issues from his boarding school days), so I do feel some slight empathy for your DH's point of view.

How bad is your son's problem with homework? If it's never getting done then encouraging him to read anti-homework stories probably isn't wise. If it's just a normal reluctance to get started but it always gets done eventually scenario then your DH is being unreasonable.

Lurleene Mon 17-Jun-13 23:13:18

The only thing I don't like about Beano is that it costs over 8 quid a month!

Jellybeanz1 Mon 17-Jun-13 23:18:30

What stories did my deranged Ddh enjoy, piprabbit ? Tin Tin & Aestrix . I did enjoy the recent Tin Tin film but can't really comment as I didn't get into those annuals. I read my brothers Dandy and Beano, may be I'm the delinquent influence! Although I had to make do with sneaky peaks of the Jackie magazine from jumble sales and friends older sisters. I recently found a Jackie annual in a charity shop and did throw it away ( not just 'coz Gary Glitter was the pin up!).

weblette Mon 17-Jun-13 23:21:59

Ooh I remember the days when it was 7p

Jellybeanz1 Mon 17-Jun-13 23:26:01

Yes MrsLyman homework reluctance is confined to written work and can usually be cajoled with time incentives and other bribes. Maybe I should use the Beano as a reward smile

lottiegarbanzo Mon 17-Jun-13 23:26:05

Hmm, well I've had a lifelong predilection for stripy jumpers but don't like the combination of black and red. I feel terribly conflicted now you mention it...

piprabbit Mon 17-Jun-13 23:27:11

Aestrix was never one for conforming to authority and there were some peculiar ideas in Tin Tin IIRC.

If you want to understand why children enjoy subversive literature, and why it is actually good for them, try reading something like Alison Lurie's "Don't tell the Grown-ups - The Subversive Power of Children's Literature" - or better still get your DH to read it.

Jellybeanz1 Mon 17-Jun-13 23:34:41

Oh I like the idea of piprabbit books with subversive in the title. can you get it from the local library?

Jellybeanz1 Mon 17-Jun-13 23:37:27

Oh Edam I forgot about the Twinkle, I'm becoming nostalgic here.

piprabbit Mon 17-Jun-13 23:38:31

It's available to reserve at my local library, so hopefully should be available at yours (and there are second hand copies on Amazon for less than £3 with free delivery)

piprabbit Mon 17-Jun-13 23:39:19

Nurse Nancy and the Doll's Hospital - I soooo wanted a nurses uniform like Nancy's.

The Beano is enjoyed by all in my house, dd was a huge fan, then ds, dh always reads it too - everyone has their favourite characters too. Ds reads his copies of the comic and the annuals over and over. It has got much more PC. I loved Astrix and Tin Tin when I was young, as well as Oor Wullie and The Broons, Garfield, Rupert the Bear and Snoopy...

Jellybeanz1 Mon 17-Jun-13 23:46:07

Thanks piprabbit I'll pop down library later

BreconBeBuggered Mon 17-Jun-13 23:56:24

Ask your child's teachers what they think about throwing out things he loves to read, and report any responses back to your DH.

KentishWine Tue 18-Jun-13 07:17:27

If your DH is concerned about 'morals' in children's books he might want to think about his own childhood reading - TinTin was rather racist at times!

As for throwing away DSs books...that's just mean. Your DS will remember it forever. DH should get a grip. It's The Beano, not Mein Kampf.

burberryqueen Tue 18-Jun-13 07:23:41

don't let him throw the Beano collection away! It would be sacrilege and really nasty!
one or two friends and I did blame our anti-authoritarian stance on the Beano but actually there is nothing wrong with that and we are all doing OK in later life, so do not worry....
also ask your husband if he would like to make a bonfire of the Beano and point him to Fahrenheit 451 and Nazi Germany.

theodorakisses Tue 18-Jun-13 08:19:58

aquila and ocada are chosen by the kind of parents who think any joy sugar or fun may not be an exclusive learning experience. Boooooring

theodorakisses Tue 18-Jun-13 08:23:11

and as you husband sounds like a fussy tosspot who thinks everything should be educational, he is also showing utter hypocrisy by depriving a child of reading something he loves. It's a slippery slope, he'll be banning telly next and posting smuggo threads about the fact their child is 47 and have never even seen a television set

Oldandcobwebby Tue 18-Jun-13 08:28:20

Have my very first LTB. As a bloke, I have no idea why a woman would stick with a controlling loon.

bodiddly Tue 18-Jun-13 08:30:29

My ds is obsessed by the Beano and the Dandy. I don't buy the current comics as they cost a lot but we buy older comics and annuals at car boot sales and charity shops. He has soooo many of them and reads them over and over. In my view anything that encourages reading is fine by me. I do insist that he reads a proper book at bedtime but he can be found the rest of the time with an annual in the garden, under the bed, on the loo or even in the bath!

mrsjay Tue 18-Jun-13 08:54:43

I think the Beano should be required reading for every child

I agree with you mini I wonder if mini the minx has an influence on naughty little girls grin. I remember a iwas speaking to a mum when dd2 was in primary she had banned tracy beaker as it was rubbing off on her dd and as she was such a good girl before it must be tracy making her naughty hmm

mrsjay Tue 18-Jun-13 08:56:59

I was all sad faced when dd1 said mum you can stop getting my beano now I am to old for it,

Meglet England Tue 18-Jun-13 09:02:40

Can you still get the Beano?!!

mrsjay Tue 18-Jun-13 09:04:36

yes it was the dandy that was disbanded ( i am sure )

lashingsofbingeinghere Tue 18-Jun-13 09:15:17

Compromise? Get Aquila and the Beano?

bodiddly Tue 18-Jun-13 09:32:26

You can still get the Beano - the Dandy is only available online now though!

MrButtercat Tue 18-Jun-13 09:37:39

We have subscription to Beano and The Phoenix.

3 very well behaved,avid readers doing well at school.

We tried Aquila but none of my dc read it as avidly and as the whole point of comics is to read I ditched the subscription.

Dawndonna Tue 18-Jun-13 10:05:53

This is daft. However, get him some Asterix as well as The Beano. Maybe that way your dh will remember how violent and subversive the Asterix stories actually were.

UniS Tue 18-Jun-13 22:04:01

I took DS to a concert on Sunday. We sat next to an older gentleman, we know, whose wife was one of the performers ( along with my DH) . I took 2 old beanos out of my bag for DS to read during the concert. Older gentleman was thrilled and promptly "borrowed" one of them, making great play of letting his wife know that he would be OK during the concert as he had a beano to read so he wouldn't get bored.

edam Tue 18-Jun-13 23:06:07

Jellybeanz, I can still remember the immortal instructions in Twinkle to 'ask Mummy to help you cut around the thick black lines'. I loved those dressing up dolls!

If you are anywhere near London, DO take ds to the Beano exhibition on the South Bank, it's great fun.

morethanpotatoprints Tue 18-Jun-13 23:14:48

Sorry OP. You're dh is mad.

of course if you look hard enough at most things for dc you will find bad influences. it is part of the attraction for dc and the people who make/publish the items.
Throughout history this has been the same, and surely dc should have this freedom from having to be the perfect child.
If they are allowed this fantasy in books, toys etc. They are less likely to go off the rails.
Is your dh going to follow him round until he is 16, looking for bad influences. I hope for your ds sake he isn't.
Tell him to take a chill pill and show him the comments on here.
Also second the comment about telling his teacher what your dh plans to do. I know what her/ his reaction would be.

WhizzerAndChips Tue 18-Jun-13 23:24:26

As you can see from my MN moniker, I was an avid comic reader! I regularly read Whizzer and Chips, Topper, Beano and The Dandy I even joined the Desperate Dan Club and had my own badge and club secret 'password' grin
As much as I read the comics, I didn't feel the urge to pea-shoot passing objects or fashion a catapult a'la Minnie The Minx, Ivy The Terrible or Beryl The Peril style.
Tell your DH to get a grip! smile
Oh, and I'm another one who is extremely glad that there are still children out there who love The Beano. I was gutted when the Dandy had to close a while back. I keep trying (and failing) to get my DS's to read old fashioned comics like the Beano, to no avail - they'd much rather read football magazines like Shoot! and Match!
Oh well, at least they still love reading, so I'm happy!

theodorakisses Wed 19-Jun-13 13:00:00

ooh, love the term Moniker, a new foster pup is on her way to me and you have just named her! If she were male, it would have had to be Dennis...

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