To think that if you drive a small car, you are fair game for intimidation!

(156 Posts)
SaggyOldClothCatPuss Wed 12-Jun-13 22:33:55

DM is away this week, and has lent me her car. It is a Nissan Micra. EVERY time I have been out in it, I have been tailgated by a van/taxi/4x4. I don't get this in my large Citroen. I have driven the Micra in exactly the same way! If it was my own car, Id be tempted to apply the brakes! angry

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

VitoCorleone Wed 12-Jun-13 22:38:12

I drive a little Peugeot 206 and people intimidate me, drive right up my arse and ALWAYS overtake.

I dont have this problem when i drive DPs Vectra

One day im going to have a big arsed BMW and get my own back.

WafflyVersatile Wed 12-Jun-13 22:41:34

[not a driver] I thought the trick was to flick your fog lights on a for a second and that would look like you were putting the brakes on...

McNewPants2013 Wed 12-Jun-13 22:41:58

The lowest engine size I have own is a 1.8 and I have never had problem, the car the insurance sent was a 1.3 and my god the arsehole drivers came out of the woodwork.

ivykaty44 Wed 12-Jun-13 22:44:29

YABU the size of your car is not an excuse for other people to bully you on the road and is dangerous, when will people wake up to the fact that a car driven badly can kill and make the person driving a killer angry

I used to drive a 1.2l Suzuki (Meat) Wagon R+ . One of the ugliest and least aerodynamic cars known to man.

Yes it brought the arseholes out of the woodwork.
And it slipped on its' Invisibilty Cloak on roundabouts because every bastard cut me up.
Lorry drivers just stared right into my shock face as they cut me up.

Wolfiefan Wed 12-Jun-13 22:46:02

I do tap the brakes! It scares the fuck out of the tossers!

Mia4 Wed 12-Jun-13 22:48:58

Fair game- fuck no. More likely to get it, hell yes.

Although the last few times it happened to me I actually stopped the car, got out and looked at them with a glare and then drove off. Not one followed me right behind then all back right off. Seems most of these people are like regular bullies -scared when someone stands up to them.

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Wed 12-Jun-13 22:49:14

Ivy I didn't say I think small cars should be fair game!
Its bloody irritating, rude and dangerous! I was shocked by the difference between how people treat my car and DMs!

Permanentlyexhausted Wed 12-Jun-13 22:50:58

Doesn't surprise me. A medium sized car with a roof box seems to attract the same sort of attention.

Ilovemyself Wed 12-Jun-13 22:56:09

Why not just stick to your Citroen. You don't have to drive her car lol

pigsDOfly Wed 12-Jun-13 23:00:11

Oh yes absolutely. I also borrowed a relations Nissan Micra some years ago, at the time I had a Peugeot 505 (8 seater estate) and the different in the attitude of other drivers was amazing.

I thought I was imagining it tbh because I couldn't really believe that a small car would make other driver behave so badly towards me. Clearly I wasn't

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Wed 12-Jun-13 23:01:52

Ilove Im just borrowing it, not driving the car wont change peoples attitudes though, will it?

COCKadoodledooo Wed 12-Jun-13 23:08:37

I drive a 40+ year old Morris. The twats that pull out on me are unbelievable.
My little pleasure though is seeing their faces when I hoon it away from the lights because under her innocent looking exterior is a tuned Marina engine grin

fortyplus Wed 12-Jun-13 23:11:14

I have a Honda Jazz but for some reason when I put a 16 foot canoe on the roof everyone gets out of mt way - work that one out! grin

Ilovemyself Wed 12-Jun-13 23:25:03

Saggy. No it won't. Was only joking. BTW.

Shouldn't matter what you are in. Lets just hope the promise to prosecute tailgaters will come through.

MorganMummy Wed 12-Jun-13 23:27:44

I've had two Micras. I used to enjoy annoying the tailgaters with exaggerated old-lady-style driving, but now I have DS I feel very vulnerable (and obviously don't try to antagonise other driver) in my reliable, economical and planet-friendly car.

I will always remember when DM was teaching me motorway driving, and her shock and surprise that no-one was letting usin off the slip road. 'This never happens to me normally?!. (DM drives a massive VW camper)

frogspoon Wed 12-Jun-13 23:41:03

Oh dear, have just this week bought a Toyota AYGO 1.0l

Ilovemyself Wed 12-Jun-13 23:47:02

Sorry soggy. Spell checker changed the name.

TigerseyeMum Wed 12-Jun-13 23:50:02

Yep, I had a Ka a while back. I was tailgates, cut up, bullied, ignored and had the cloak of invisibility even to pedestrians.

Went back to my big ass estate.

aldiwhore Wed 12-Jun-13 23:51:29

I have a Nissan Micra, it's got a few scratches and a pirate flag, seems to keep wankers away. Although I do think that even if you're doing 60, some twat will think they HAVE to overtake you, just to be in front of a micra.

I am not intimidated though. I'm happy to pootle at my own pace. If someone's up my arse, I go VERY SLOWLY.

No point getting angry, just slow up, pull slightly over and let them think they've won.

The pay offs happen rarely, but when it was snowing heavily and I was going slow (I COULD have gone faster, but I would have been stupid to) some dick overtook me at speed... I passed him a few minutes later, looking distraught, his audi in a ditch. I offered him help of course, because I'm a nice smug bitch like that, and was glad he wasn't hurt (and hadn't hurt anyone else) but I did have a chuckle as I crept back home carefully.

I love my Micra. If I win the lotto, I will keep my Micra (though I may pimp it somehow).

Yes, you are not U. I borrowed my friend's SUV and had a whale of a time. People give you room, don't cut you up and leave a shock stopping distance. Wankers.

aldiwhore Wed 12-Jun-13 23:52:31

Have to say, applying the brakes is silly, you put yourself at risk too. Simply tap the brake, so as not to engage it, your brake lights will come on and the other person still shits themself. All is well.

KhaosandKalamity Thu 13-Jun-13 05:37:40

There are some horrors on the road, I live by the if it is bigger than you show some respect, but only because the larger the vehicle the larger the blind spots and bigger the damage. I would hate to think that just for driving a smaller vehicle you are bullied on the roads. Not that I was complaining when a small car actually pulled over and let me past while I was driving our large Rodeo ute, but while I got ahead pulling over then pulling out again on a busy road would have put them at higher risk than being followed by a vehicle whose bonnet was higher than their roof.

MrsSchadenfreude Thu 13-Jun-13 05:46:49

I always used to drive a small car, but borrowed SFIL's big fuck off Audi one weekend - was amazed how differently people treated me on the road. They let me out. They got out of the way. They didn't tailgate me or cut me up.

DMIL drives a Nissan Micra. I have to say, it is a bit of an Old Lady's Car. grin

blue2 Thu 13-Jun-13 06:01:49

I usually drive a 4x4 (about 8 years old) but hit a deer a few weeks ago. Car went off to be mended, and I had a Fiesta in its place.

Wow! Talk about being intimidated!! What a change in attitude...

Mind you, I had this bloke behind me last night who kept hooting at me. Stopped at 2 sets of lights, he kept hooting and waving his arms. Eventually I pulled in thinking I hadn't closed the boot properly, and he just put his foot down and overtook me!

nooka Thu 13-Jun-13 06:11:11

I drive an old rather beaten up half ton pick up truck specifically so I am easy to see and people don't think that I'm likely to protect it much in a squeeze. I should add that where I live there is plenty of space for huge cars (am in Canada). dh drives a Golf GTI which round here is considered pretty small. I always feel very low down in it! dh says he hasn't noticed anyone particularly cutting him up etc, but does enjoy pulling off very sharpish and beating the muscle cars grin

If I saw a 40 year old Morris I'd be too busy admiring it to cut you up, I love classic cars!

BellaVita Thu 13-Jun-13 06:18:15

Yep, is true.

Hulababy Thu 13-Jun-13 06:58:46

This is strange to me as I find the opposite.

I drive a little Fiat 500. People flash to let me out at junctions, give way, and are generally just nice.

I sometimes drive dh's golf r. It's a hot hatch thing, fast, sporty. Not big on size big in power. Have way more issues - trying to race at lights, never let you out, aggressive drivers near by, etc.

ArrowofApollo Thu 13-Jun-13 07:05:55

YABU I was tailgated by an Audi yesterday and I drive C4 Grand Picasso. And if she had gone into the back of me she would have had a much bigger repair billhmm
Some people are just impatient shits angry

englishteacher78 Thu 13-Jun-13 07:08:16

And this is why driving scares me!

SoupDragon Thu 13-Jun-13 07:10:18

I've had a Fiat Panda, a Ka and something else small as courtesy cars before and never noticed it. I felt small and vulnerable in them though.

CityTiliDie Thu 13-Jun-13 07:12:45

I think the problem is more with the owners of big cars being arrogant twats!

Especially german cars! They think they own the road and that the rules that apply to everyone else dont aply to them.

If we all drove cars appropriate to our needs then the roads would be so much safer and the amount of fuel used would be reduced along with the pollution, noise etc etc.

I love my 'small' car and its roof box when on holiday. A bit of 'left foot braking' does scare the crap out of twats in BMW's, berks in Mercs and arseholes in Audis.

SoupDragon Thu 13-Jun-13 07:21:52

Yes, because all drivers of big cars are twats hmm

aldiwhore Thu 13-Jun-13 07:24:10

I'm not an old Granny! harumpf

I love my Nissan Micra, it's like a Go Kart, loads of fun. (Even if to others I'm crawling).

I drive a silver Ka, and Mercs, BMWs and Audis seem to be inexplicably drawn to my rear bumper. hmm

I am also invisible to pedestrians, which is most vexing indeed.

vivizone Thu 13-Jun-13 07:25:10

I'm learning to drive and had my eyes on a very small, 1.nothing engine size car because I don't think I would ever be comfortable driving a BIG car. This thread has scared me! What car is considered small but people won't try to bully you on the road?

madasa Thu 13-Jun-13 07:27:50

When I drive my nissan I am tailgated almost every time.

When I drive my old Moggie Minor hardly ever.

meglet Thu 13-Jun-13 07:34:00

I used to drive a dinky little Ford KA and was forever getting hassle from other drivers. The funny thing was I worked for a fleet manager at the time so was regularly driving beefy company cars around the county, no one ever drove up my arse when I took a BMW or Jag angry.

ComtesseDeSpair Thu 13-Jun-13 07:37:38

I drive a Smart ForTwo and interestingly enough I never get tailgated or cut up. Maybe it's because a Smart isn't even pretending to be a match for a larger car (top speed of 86mph, downhill, with the wind behind you)?

DP's saloon is a target for idiots, even though it's sizeable and pretty powerful. But our ancient Land Rover commands respekt, innit!

LiegeAndLief Thu 13-Jun-13 07:38:35

What you need on your small car is a ve large dent on the right hand front corner (I'm sure there is a technical term for that but I don't know what I is...). Particularly handy for pulling onto roundabouts or out of busy junctions.

GemmaTeller Thu 13-Jun-13 07:42:52

Yep, I agree, I have a punto and I'm invisible!

DH hates driving it, cars pull out on roundabouts and from side roads right in front of it.
Its the most economical, tidy and reliable car but absolutely invisible.

When I win the lottery......

Hazelbrowneyes Thu 13-Jun-13 07:43:48

I drive a BMW X5. I'm tailgated constantly. No one wants to let me out at a junction & no one wants to let me in at a filter lane.

Probably due to this misconception that people who drive big German cars are twats.

As an aside, I don't tailgate, I let out all manners of vehicles & I do witness extremely poor driving from all sides - no matter how big or small the car the car you own is, if you're a bad driver, you're a bad driver.

wigglesrock Thu 13-Jun-13 07:44:21

I've never noticed it, my husband has a Ka, and I've never had an issue when I've taken it. I actually find it faster and nippier than the other car.

MrsDoomsPatterson Thu 13-Jun-13 07:45:29

I am the same as Hulababy. I have never had a problem at all but I guess I'm a confident, decisive driver who can overtake you quickly. Nope, never had an issue!

higgle Thu 13-Jun-13 07:51:29

Hulababy - agreed! Mine is a Fiat Panda but there is something about small Fiats that makes everyone smile and exude good will.

Sunnymeg Thu 13-Jun-13 07:56:27

Micra's have a reputation as an older person's car. Some of them are driven badly by people who should no longer be on the road. I. have a Micra and it happens to me all the time. I bought it because I got the best deal on it, but my DH did warn me and was right about it coming with a smile

lljkk Thu 13-Jun-13 08:03:17

Weird, we have humongus (beast can't turn) & teeny car (small engine slow), I don't notice any difference from other drivers.

hamilton75 Thu 13-Jun-13 08:11:17

Fair game? of course not, there is no excuse for bullying/crappy driving. However, it probably does happen and possibly because people assume a woman is driving.

livinginwonderland Thu 13-Jun-13 08:14:04

I have a Hyundai Getz and I'm always getting cut up, especially because my road seems to be full of people with huge BMW's and estate cars! It's especially infuriating because my flat is on a main road, so if it's busy, I have a nightmare just getting out of my parking space!

NotDead Thu 13-Jun-13 08:16:26

I had some fun once pushing into a traffic queue..tweedy man in jag let out a massive aggressive BEEEEEP. so I timed my crawl over the lights to see the fuck sitting at red whilst I tootled off. at the next light sat across lanes and really pissed him off.. then when he got past neatly overtook in a nice small length of road and stopped so he straddled a pedestrian crossing and got out and left him stuck haha! not proud exactly but pleased as punch to bully twat bully back! smile

TwllBach Thu 13-Jun-13 08:21:50

I had a Nissan micra for years as it was my first car and I loved it. I didn't notice what you're sayi g until I had to scrap it and I've now got a slightly boy racer-y ford fiesta thing (because it was the only thing I could afford.)

People definitely treat me differently on the road now, but I would love to have another Nissan micra - it was the most amazing car.

I drove a Nissan Micra for over 20 years and never experienced this, other than the usual twats that are everywhere, regardless of car size. The only vehicle that tried to intimidate me was a large concrete pick up truck, much to the amusement of my fellow drivers who all tooted and waved their approval at David taking on Goliath.

I think hamilton may have hit the nail on the head - if people presume a woman is driving they may act more aggresively.

There are also certain indicators that drivers give - road positioning, speed etc. which indicate whether the driver is confident or nervous. If drivers are unconsciously driving in a timid manner then drivers with bullying tendencies may pick up on these.

I spend some of the time driving a Renault Grand Espace and some of the time driving a Toyota IQ, so I think I've experienced both ends of the car size spectrum.

I haven't noticed any difference in how close other drivers are or how pushy they are. Some drivers are pricks and most aren't, regardless of whether I'm driving one of the largest cars available or one of the smallest.

Vivizone - i only passed my test last year and got a 1L corsa
I loved it
Some drivers are intimidating but dont let that put you off please
For every arsehole on the road there is also a courteous sensible driver smile

Megsdaughter Thu 13-Jun-13 08:45:28

I've gone from driving a 8 seater Mazda bongo to a Nissan micra and must admit haven't noticed any difference.

ImTooHecsyForYourParty Thu 13-Jun-13 08:58:13

I have noticed this. I don't know why some people do it, but they do. We've got a santa fe and an accent and when in the accent, people are a lot more aggressive than when we're in the santa fe.

However, we used to have a - I will put on my protective clothing because I know I'm going to suffer Judgement for this wink - range rover and we noticed a very different effect. People who had an attitude about big cars. People would give way to you (not when they have to but that little courtesy we all do for each other) in the small car (at that time our small car was a fiat I think) but no WAY would they do that same courtesy when we were in the range rover.

Funniest was the lollypop lady who would leap into the road if we were driving that, whether someone was ready to cross or not but not bother unless someone was actually waiting there ready to cross if we were in the little car. you'll think I'm mad but it happened every time.

MaxPepsi Thu 13-Jun-13 09:02:25

I have had experience of this.

My first car was a little clapped out clio, however DH's was (and still is) a discovery. Massive difference in the way I've been treated on the road. DH noticed it too when he drove it.

I now have an old ford. It has a few scratches and bumps from prevous owners and therefore plenty of other road users assume it's a shit car. It is most amusing when they realise they can't overtake me or bully me as under the bonnet is a fuck off 1.8TDi engine and the woman behind the wheel is very confident driver.

The one car where I've had respect from all quarters is when I drive my parents estate car. I'd love an estate <wistfully looks to the future when I've talked DH into buying me one>

dexter73 Thu 13-Jun-13 09:05:24

I haven't noticed this. I drive a Fiesta and quite often dh's BMW 530 which is enormous. Does my Fiesta driving cancel out my arrogant twat BMW driving?

PostBellumBugsy Thu 13-Jun-13 09:12:43

I have mostly driven old small cars, so either I am used to this or I just don't notice it anymore.

My cars are usually worth next to nothing, so I always work on the basis that their insurance claim will be alot worse than mine & hold my own. I get alot of drivers with very small brains right up my rear but I have no compunction about jamming the brakes on to shift them.

I also hold my own in queues too and refuse to be pushed out of lane by huge 4x4s or vans - again I work on the basis that they are less likely to want the prang than me & I'm in the right anyway!

FarBetterNow Thu 13-Jun-13 09:14:29

Lightly touch the break pedal with the left foot whilst keeping right foot on accelorator.
Then the tail gaters usually back off.

thecakeisalie Thu 13-Jun-13 09:15:31

Were currently borrowing my Mum's car which is a little skoda and its been driving me crazy how much people try to intimidate me while driving it. I used to own a little skoda myself but haven't in a few years and glad I don't because people treat you so badly for it. DH's car is a BMW and I almost never get tailgated when driving it.

I always find it amusing that sticking to the 30mph speed limit in the bmw people just respect it but in the skoda I get people right up my backside or even overtaking me in ridiculous places.

FarBetterNow Thu 13-Jun-13 09:16:00

Ok, I mean touch the break pedal momentorally (sp).

I've noticed this before-the difference in behaviour when driving a Yaris vs a Qashqai+2 (not huge but substantially bigger/chunkier) is crazy

When I noticed it even more though was when I was learning to drive. I ended up doing all my learning (proper lessons included) in our pretty new Megane so not an obvious learners car. One day we went out driving and DH and I both commented that we'd had a really pleasant drive from the POV that we didn't have assholes honking, tailgating, cutting me up and generally being aggressive. Couldn't work out why as my driving seemed the same (this was just days before my test) and normally there was loads of it.

When we got out of the car we realised we'd forgotten to put the L-plates on blush

SuffolkNWhat Thu 13-Jun-13 09:21:15

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

HighInterestRat Thu 13-Jun-13 09:22:52

I've only ever had new Audis (Just because of DH's job and me only passing my test aged 26, not a boast) but as I usually have the dc in the car, I am a very granny-like careful driver and only ever stick to the speed limit. I often get tailgated, dangerously overtaken etc. I think sometimes people see a young woman behind the wheel and decide to be intimidating.

Tanith Thu 13-Jun-13 09:25:59

My brother once drove a Reliant Robin out of sheer perversity. Said it was cheap to run and he liked it (and Delboy had one wink).

He was all but run off the road at a roundabout one day and the driver of the other car decided to throw his weight around, got out of his car and prepared to have a go.

The change on his face when my 6ft, 22 stone, ex-Rugby prop brother heaved himself out of the car was something worth seeing grin

They had such a polite chat - I think he even called my brother "Sir" gringrin

HighInterestRat Thu 13-Jun-13 09:26:54


PickleSarnie Thu 13-Jun-13 09:27:44

My DH used to insist this was the case snd that every time he drove my granny-blue Honda Jazz he got cut up. I thought he was being ridiculous but I've driven his big estate quite a bit recently and the difference is really noticable.

Cars will do absolutely anything not to sit behind a Jazz. Even if I'm going a little bit above the speed limit on a country road keeping up with the queue of traffic in front, cars behind me will overtake on hills and bends just to get in front of me. Regardless of the fact they're still stuck behind a queue of traffic.

. Thankfully I have decent windscreen washers to scoosh tailgaters with.

MonsterBookOfTyRexs Thu 13-Jun-13 09:27:57

I have a Peugeot 106 1.1l.
People don't get up my arse as they cant catch up ;) but as soon as dh drives with the L plates on the drivers turn into knobs!
Dh is a better driver than me and more than ready to pass his test. Only money has delayed it.

fossil971 Thu 13-Jun-13 09:28:50

I've downsized my car this year from a big estate to a Seat Ibiza. The reason for getting the Ibiza is that it's a bit more of a boy-racer car (well the Cupra's are) than a Micra or Fiesta and I thought it might not have "lady driver cut me up" written all over it. The thing is I forget I'm not in the estate so I don't always notice if someone isn't giving me room, just barge out anyway.

Also I get my revenge when I drive DH's vehicle - everyone gets out of your way in a large battered van grin

MrsDeVere Thu 13-Jun-13 09:43:20

I have only had two cars. Both Clios and both covered in pink butterfly stickers.

This obviously makes me a target for every twathead who thinks s/he is a serious driver and I should get out of the way.

Thing is my cars are old and not worth much. If you want to come up my arse in your very expensive car that will have to sit in the garage for 3 mths while they order parts, please do.

I shall just apply my break very gently every so often until you get the message to back off.

(not at speed obviously. Just when you are trying to push me to go faster on side roads and get out of your way by intimidating me)

DeWe Thu 13-Jun-13 09:48:40

Dparents used to have a large estate car, and a 2 door tiny car. Dm used to say she could tell which car she was driving by the way other cars acted round her.
If someone tailgates me, I slow down, so they can be stupid and overtake if they have a death wish, or it makes them even slower, which serves them right.

I have noticed a bit of a difference recently. My car is a Peugeot 206, and DP's is a Ford Focus so a bit bigger than mine. But I do see a difference in attitude depending on what I drive. But I'm confident in my driving so I can't say I've had much of a problem.

specialsubject Thu 13-Jun-13 10:06:48

it's bizarre, isn't it? I have a scruffy brown estate car and it is apparently invisible. I now drive with the side lights on at all times which does seem to allow people to see me.

The lights are very bright, especially the brakes and fogs (much brighter than on modern cars). To get rid of a tailgater, switch on headlamps and then flick the rear fog lamps. No need to do anything dangerous like touching the brake.

the incident I remember is a trip abroad in our British BMW, when we had a tailgater. As the passenger, I turned round and stared hard at the idiot behind. By the time he had worked out that I was not the one driving, we had an acceptable distance between us.

teacher123 Thu 13-Jun-13 10:10:32

No one ever used to cut me up in my land rover, but in my aygo I am fair game. However the worst driving behaviour I used to get was when I had a reasonably sporty convertible (which to be fair went like shit of a shovel). People used to challenge me at traffic lights, deliberately cut me up, just be wankers. It was unbelievable. Now I drive my tiddly car at a respectable 70 on the motorway and daydream about what car ill get when I don't need to hoik pushchairs around!

ARealDame Thu 13-Jun-13 10:13:41

Unfortunately, what the OP says I suspect is true. It really is a vile aspect of some people, who would intimidate a small car but not a BMW.

I also had a Nissan Micra, and I absolutely loved it. It actually had some character too! But I do feel that men especially saw a female driver in a Nissan micra and it just annoyed them without any other provocation. I rarely swear on MN, but I really all those arrogant tossers to F Off.

ARealDame Thu 13-Jun-13 10:16:31

My cars are usually worth next to nothing, so I always work on the basis that their insurance claim will be alot worse than mine & hold my own

Interesting approach smile

yoshipoppet Thu 13-Jun-13 10:34:01

I drive a Wagon R, it suits me as I often have to carry large things in it and there is plenty of room in the back. Yes OP I do get tailgated a lot, it's not so bad on the open road, but when I get to a speed limit area and I slow down, that's when it usually happens. Some tit in a big shiny new car, or a works van will sit right on my back bumper. I assume the drivers are trying to intimidate, maybe they want me to go faster but I refuse to speed. In fact I would probably slow down a bit.
I would very much like a bumper sticker that reads 'I slow down for tailgaters'.
If I'm targeted by a works van and the company logo is on it I often ring up the company when I get home, and complain directly to them.

I also drive a lorry and no-one tailgates me in that, even though it's a lot slower.

BeCool Thu 13-Jun-13 10:37:01

I drive a 1.2l Polo these days & I don't feel any difference to when I drove a much much bigger Audi.

EddieVeddersfoxymop Thu 13-Jun-13 10:41:21

I'm probably a bit guilty of assuming that small car = can just tell.......but I have a small car too! Only difference is, I am a very confident driver and my car is a Mini Cooper S which means I'm small, but very, very fast. I never get tailgated grin

My DH drives a large BMW and finds that he never gets tailgated either, but equally, no one ever lets him out of junctions etc.

He gets tailgated a lot in his 34 year old Mini though.....but if people looked closer when they're driving up his ass that it has a roll cage, fire extinguisher and looks a bit like a rally wonder they look surprised when he leaves them absolutely standing behind him, choking on his dust.....grin

FruitSaladIsNotPudding Thu 13-Jun-13 10:47:07

Hmm, am I the only one who has never experienced this?? Have had both big and small cars and can't say anyone tried to intimidate me in either ( well, except for the occasional wanker)

Maybe I'm a pushy driver and I don't realise it.

ouryve Thu 13-Jun-13 10:48:28

Never fair game.

DH has people driving up his arse in his Mazda 6. Some people are just plain twatwaffles.

theodorakisses Thu 13-Jun-13 10:52:21

Fair game, not really but I judge people for driving crappy little shitters aggressively (like driving slowly to piss people off) when they are more likely to be squished than people who have decent cars.

I drive a yaris and other cars can be knobbers especially audis tailgating etc. I think eventually they realise I can't/won't go faster and they overtake at the first opportunity. I will not be intimidated into dangerous driving by twats. Especially with my son in the car. They can just fuck off.

lottieandmia Thu 13-Jun-13 10:54:12

I agree! I think some people driving 4x4s think they have the right to just drive and everyone else will get out of the way.

lottieandmia Thu 13-Jun-13 10:54:49

As an aside, haven't the police just been given more powers to punish people who tailgate?

Oh and I don't drive slowly to piss people off hmm I drive at the speed limit. Like you're supposed to. And I couldn't give a fuck if that pisses you off.

PostBellumBugsy Thu 13-Jun-13 10:57:01

theodorakisses, I may drive a crappy little shitter in your opinion, but all the small old cars I drive have good safety features and records and are perfectly "decent" cars. I don't get what there is to judge about any of that.

persimmon Thu 13-Jun-13 10:58:24

I drove a Ka for 9 years and didn't notice this at all. Maybe I was just inured to it..? I now drive a Fiesta and again, haven't noticed anything in particular. Is a Fiesta a 'small car'?

lydiajones Thu 13-Jun-13 10:59:03

I hope not, I drive quite a small car and haven't noticed this. The only time I was intimidated was when I put green P plates on after passing my test which I think is totally wrong. As soon as I took them off I could drive in peace!!

IControlSandwichMonkey Thu 13-Jun-13 11:09:42

I only passed my test a couple of months ago and I am horrified by the behaviour of other drivers. I drive a smallish car and am constantly tailgated down the main road to dd's school. I drive at 60, which is the speed limit. I am not slow or unresponsive. But dear God, people can't wait to get past. I spend a lot of time braking to let them cut in front of me because they've overtaken when it isn't safe to do so and are in danger of being wiped out. Yesterday a nob in a massive, new SUV was right behind me to the point where he could have driven my car if he'd wanted to. I slowed down to 50 because the speed signs suggested I should and he started honking and flashing. Until a police car pulled out behind him. He moved back, gave himself an actual stopping distance and stopped behaving like a twit. Until the police car turned off and he bloody started it all again. It worries me because if anything happens, they'll hit the back of me and I can't do a thing to stop them.

ARealDame Thu 13-Jun-13 11:15:40

My experience too, IControl.

Ironically, I have to slow down when I am tailgated, because the driving situation becomes more dangerous!!! Idiots. I have got better over the years at ignoring them, though I am looking forward to the day when I can put my little finger out at some moron, you know the small appendage sign grin.

It always makes me laugh because these boy (and sometimes girl) racers are only speeding home to scratch their arse and pick their nose for 5 extra minutes

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Thu 13-Jun-13 11:18:37

Im a confident driver, I drive miles and miles for work, and it doesn't scare me, it just pisses me off! I also drive at the speed limit. Its when Im driving through the villages it happens! I was thinking of downsizing my car, I wont be now!

Arabesque Thu 13-Jun-13 12:11:09

I drive an old Toyota Corolla and am fed up of twats in 4x4s and BMWs driving up my arse. I don't dawdle down the road at 20 mph or keep braking for no reason, I drive perfectly normally and have years of experience. But some people really are so shallow that they think a bigger car = better driver/more important person.

tb Thu 13-Jun-13 12:12:25

For a lesson in how few drivers judge your speed before pulling out in front of you, try a 2CV. The amount of times I used to get cut up was unbelievable. More annoying was the 20 mins foot to the floor to build up speed again.

A Citroen salesman told me that at Slough they had several 2CVs that had been modified by being fitted with a 3l V6 Cosworth engine - think Sierra XR4i - plus uprated suspension etc. Apparently there was a long waiting list of people who wanted to take them out into Slough at lunchtime to burn off - and piss off - idiots in their Ford Fiesta XR2i's at traffic lights. Would have loved to have a go in one.

TheCraicDealer Thu 13-Jun-13 12:32:15

Same as Hulababy- I have a little Fiat 500 and people let me out all the time. I think it's because it looks like a happy car smile Although I do miss the poke of the 1.8 ltr c-max I was previously driving when I'm stuck behind a lorry on the Glenshane Pass.

CerealMom Thu 13-Jun-13 12:32:29

tb ooh, a jet powered tin can - I want one.

I used to drive a Smart and now a Toyota IQ. I get let out at junctions, bit of tailgating sometimes. Not noticed anything terrible.

People laughed at my Smart. They weren't laughing when I had snow tyres fitted and could get places in '09 and '10. Never got stuck in muddy festival fields either. I miss my Smart...

I find it the opposite. grin

When I'm driving my little 206 other road users are fine. (apart from the one old bloke that decided to shout at me because I had the audacity to want to turn into the side street he was straddling.)

When I'm driving the a lot bigger BMW then all the cocks come out the woodwork.

ComposHat Thu 13-Jun-13 12:36:53

DMIL drives a Nissan Micra. I have to say, it is a bit of an Old Lady's Car.

There's a small group on the car modification scene who specialise in what is known as OAP+ modifications.

They buy say an old Micra or Metro in biddytastic biege, put tartan rugs on the seat, national trust stickers on the back window, but then dump a huge Rover V8 engine in it and uprate the brakes, suspension etc, so the naked eye it looks like a typical small car, driven by a pensioner, but is actually extrodinarily powerful.

So some wanker in a base model BMW or Audi will try to burn them off at the lights and then has the shock of their life when this totally incognitio Nan-wagon goes steaming past them.

WileyRoadRunner Thu 13-Jun-13 12:44:37


grin love that description ComposHat

I will now refer to any Micras or Honda Jazz as Nan-wagons!

Loulybelle Thu 13-Jun-13 13:26:11

I have a bright yellow Kia Picanto, im a constant target for arseholes, but im a bitch and like to hold them up for as long as possible..

Audi drivers hate me...

ComposHat Thu 13-Jun-13 14:20:41

Audi drivers hate me.

Audi drivers hate me too, but I suspect they hate everyone who stops them using the roads as their private race track.

I don't have a small car, but do have a stereotypically old fogey type car (ancient Toyota Corolla) which attracts their disdain.

I had a Micra as a courtesy car for a week and I noticed it too.

Phoebe47 Thu 13-Jun-13 14:28:06

I love my Honda Jazz and don't think I get any more trouble from impatient/rude/bullying drivers than I did when I drove a 7 seater.

Phoebe47 Thu 13-Jun-13 14:29:54

By the way I am not a Nan! Several teachers at my school have the Honda Jazz, most of them considerably younger than me.

Taffeta Thu 13-Jun-13 14:31:50

PMSL @ nan wagon grin

We have a large car and a small car. I haven't noticed any difference but then I tend to ignore other drivers anyway

rubyflipper Thu 13-Jun-13 14:33:35

I used to drive a Smart ForTwo and I can't remember getting tailgated or cut up at all.

MrsSpagBol Thu 13-Jun-13 14:33:36

This is so true, thought it was just me. Have had 2 micras over the past 2 years and just recently changed to a bigger vehicle and the difference is astounding!

littlepeas Thu 13-Jun-13 14:38:23

I used to have an AYGO and remember feeling really intimidated if someone was driving too close - dh suggested it was because they were actually very close to me, as the car was so small. I have a big German car these days and people still pick on me (probably because it is a VW Saran, rather than a BMW), but it bothers me less as they are far away and I am big!

Damnautocorrect Thu 13-Jun-13 14:38:51

Yep my little one suffers it, I always get some berk pulling out at roundabouts or junctions. Up my bum on motorways. What they don't realise she's probably faster than their big chunky car <insert evil cackle here>

ComposHat Thu 13-Jun-13 14:54:40

I drive an old Toyota Corolla and am fed up of twats in 4x4s and BMWs driving up my arse. I don't dawdle down the road at 20 mph or keep braking for no reason, I drive perfectly normally and have years of experience

I absolutely adore my Corolla beyond all reason, it is by some distance the best car I have ever owned, smoth, relaxing and generally a relaxing place to be. It is also utterly reliable.

When I'm being harrassed by pricks in Audis/BMW/ that my Corolla cost me £400 (in which time it has needed two tyres and a set of windscreen wipers) and they are probably paying close to that every month for the pleasure of driving their Euro barge behind me.

fossil971 Thu 13-Jun-13 16:05:13

Small cars, we are indeed laughing all the way to the petrol station. And the post office, and the insurance company.

They buy say an old Micra or Metro in biddytastic biege, put tartan rugs on the seat, national trust stickers on the back window, but then dump a huge Rover V8 engine in it and uprate the brakes, suspension etc, so the naked eye it looks like a typical small car, driven by a pensioner, but is actually extrodinarily powerful.

Do they wear a grey perm wig or flat cap to keep up the deception as long as possible?

SueDoku Thu 13-Jun-13 16:12:46

I drove Citroen Saxos for 15 years, but have now upgraded (!) to a C3 VT - it looks bigger and is definitely more solid, but it's not what you'd call nippy... However, as my first car was a 2CV, anything that doesn't require you to pedal madly to get up to the speed limit is fine by me. grin My real hate is, as so many people have already said, when I am doing the correct speed and then some twat overtakes in a dangerous place (such as when I'm slowing down because there's a queue at the traffic lights; gosh, he - and it usually is a he - gains at least 10 feet ..!!) angry

ComposHat Thu 13-Jun-13 16:12:46

Do they wear a grey perm wig or flat cap to keep up the deception as long as possible?

You'd hope so!

BlackMini Thu 13-Jun-13 16:20:10

I used to have a 3 series for work and now have an aygo. I get tailgated more in the Aygo but still had idiots trying it on in the 3 series. They always presume I'm a nervous driver (I'm not, I drive a lot for work) because I stick to the speed limits.

I did find it easier to cope with them on the BMW though as they were far enough away to ignore. In the aygo I feel very vulnerable as they're so close.

tallulah Thu 13-Jun-13 17:37:40

Can't answer for anyone else but my heart sinks when I see I'm behind a micra/ Ka/ Fiat 500 or similar. Experience has taught me they will hesitate at junctions, drive at least 20 mph under the limit, brake for green lights, leave enough room for 2 lorries in front of them and go up the slip road at 40mph (then straight into the middle lane).

Going through town isn't so much of a problem, but driving anywhere with a higher speed limit I will overtake if I can safely, as soon as I can. Similarly I won't let them out if I think I'm going to end up following them for any length of time.

I don't cut them up or overtake dangerously tho, and I can't stand having white van man or Audi driver up my backside, any more than any of you.

theodorakisses Thu 13-Jun-13 17:45:12

Go on holiday out of the UK. Outside of your bubble, people drive like that, whatever you drivea bus, taxi, tuktuk, Hummer, Merc, whatever.

MamaBear17 Thu 13-Jun-13 20:29:15

That explains why I get grief whilst driving my lovely, little Toyota Aygo!

cakebar Thu 13-Jun-13 21:23:57

I hate driving DH's tiny car instead of my people carrier because of pulling out on roundabouts here. People get up to 40 easily on these big roundabouts and there just isn't the space to pull out safely into the gaps and the people behind get irate. I don't get tailgating much though.

CheapBread Thu 13-Jun-13 21:52:01

Just feel smug that your small car actually fits into car park spaces, unlike those chubster wagons.

I think there should only be 1 car for all to stop this behaviour, like the Trabants in East Germany... Just saying.

theodorakisses Fri 14-Jun-13 08:25:36

I think people who work hard and have lots of money should be allowed to have the biggest car they like and celebrate their success. Just saying.

HomelessAngua Fri 14-Jun-13 08:45:38

I drive a Smart - no tailgaters but Volvo drivers don't like being overtaken so they put their foot down, overtake then slow down again...

Also drive a pre-war car - the brakes on these cars are not good and the tossers that pull in front of you then brake hard are really stupid.

PostBellumBugsy Fri 14-Jun-13 09:05:26

theodora - surely everyone should be able to buy any car they can afford & drive it safely with due respect & courtesy to other road users. That way driving is a pleasant and safe experience for everyone.

WarmAndSunny Fri 14-Jun-13 09:12:05

I drive A meriva. It's looks like a bigger car but only has a 1.4 engine. I have no idea how other drivers treat me. I am sat high up, and drive like the law says I should. If other drivers choose to be arses that's up to them. I also don't drive my car like its a 1.4 I pretend its a merc,might explain my attitude

pleiadianpony Fri 14-Jun-13 09:18:45

I absolutely hate this. people who do this should be strung up. I don't believe in capital punishment. The exception - tailgaters and people who drop litter in the streets.

SinisterBuggyMonth Fri 14-Jun-13 09:32:52

I've only ever driven a small car son I thought everybody was just being arseholest all the time! Apparently not.

Personal highlights have been being overtaken by a Landrover who decided not to bother changing lanes at all and a 4x4 having a screaming fit and overtaking me at a pedestrian crossing while I was waiting for and elderly lady with a zimmer frame to finnish crossing the road. I also like to drive at the speed limit, which seems to irritate people.

I love small cars. If I wont the lottery I'd get a Fiat 500.

Plomino Fri 14-Jun-13 10:31:41

My own car is a Seat Ibiza , which I drive to get to work and back , and the DH has a Discovery , which I drive on my days off (usually full of dogs , horse feed or towing the horses somewhere ) . Although I drive more progressively in my own car , people seem far more willing to tailgate me, or as on one memorable occasion , actually put me off road and but for some luck , into the local river , where several people drown every year .

Unless of course I'm towing the horses in the trailer , in which case everyone seems to think its ok to barge past me , cut me up at junctions , get the hump when they can't undertake me at a roundabout , and then having passed me , brake right in front of me , so the horses lose their balance . Thanks for that .

ComposHat Fri 14-Jun-13 13:31:45

I think people who work hard and have lots of money should be allowed to have the biggest car they like and celebrate their success. Just saying.

Just so long as we stilll have the right to mock their insecurity, status anxiety and tiny cocks.

Anyway, a lot of these mobile compensatory devices are company cars or their drivers are up to their eyeballs in loans to finance companies.

Just saying

diabolo Fri 14-Jun-13 13:43:29

I've got a Corsa and yes, certain people try to overtake me in 30mph zones, think they can get ahead of me by illegally overtaking in the wrong lane at a roundabout etc - sadly for them, it's got a sports engine and amazing acceleration so I usually leave the bas***ds for dead.

That teaches them not to underestimate me again! grin

MrsDoomsPatterson Fri 14-Jun-13 13:44:30

I think people who work hard and have lots of money should be allowed to have the biggest car they like and celebrate their success. Just saying.

Someone on this fred said this ^ ?! Oh lollers!! God there are some twonks on here.

Redtractoryellowtractor Fri 14-Jun-13 13:46:56

I drive a Nissan Micra, they are very fast at pulling away. I find that's quite good fun when twatting about with Boy racers or merc drivers.

My approach is usually to just smile and sing and tra la la and refuse to be intimidated out of the way, then send people off with a cheery wave. That tends to piss them off more.

Tallulahmae Fri 14-Jun-13 13:48:41

I used to drive a yellow and black smart fortwo and had people trying to intimidate me all the time (luckily I simply don't care and just slowed down, waved and laughed at them, with the occasional brake light show).

Now I drive a grey and white smart fortwo and don't really get people trying to bully me too often but again I simply don't care - their aggression simply amuses me!

i def used to get this when i had a citroen c1 but not so much in my 207cc. however i do get nasty comments from people when i have the roof down! err i paid for this damn car so i'll put the roof up and down as i please!

my partners subaru impreza is the best car for annoying boy racers tho as they dont realise its one with a 250bhp engine lol. their 1L corsas simply wont compete!

ComposHat Fri 14-Jun-13 15:10:44

but not so much in my 207cc.

How much do you charge for a cut and colour? (ducks)

ComposHat Fri 14-Jun-13 15:29:19

The funny thing is that my totally bog standard 1.6 Corolla is faster than the 2litre GOlf GTi off the same era.

It has similar horsepower, is much lighter and has 16 valves, when the 8 valvegolf is horribly overweight. The late 90s Golf GTI was spectacularly shite though. Sadly I've never had one pull up alongside me at the lights.

theodorakisses Fri 14-Jun-13 17:01:46

Compost-mine isn't. it is big, safe and fun. I don't have a cock and am not insecure, just like having nice things that are comfy, fun and safe. The insecurity is far more likely to be from the cries of 22 year old Fiesta drivers who think they are eco firendly because they drive it. They are not. My truck does, however, do 9mpg but my fuel is free so I don't care. My Escalade is quite efficient and has saved our lives (although sadly not a foster dog I was picking up who went through the windscreen when a lorry hit us head on a 120kph). Imagine if we had been in a Picanto, we would have been squished.

theodorakisses Fri 14-Jun-13 17:02:35

people who say lollers are the biggest twats.

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Fri 14-Jun-13 17:30:43

I think people who work hard and have lots of money should be allowed to have the biggest car they like and celebrate their success. Just saying.
on finance, paying through the nose

I either drive a Mazda 2 (teeny tiny) or a Landcruiser (large) - there is a junction near here at which I can guarantee a driver will pull out of across me if I'm in the small car, but not if I'm in the big one. A large lorry nearly chopped me in half last week when I was driving the small car - I would put money on it not happening if I'd been in the big one.

I'm with Plomino on the trailer driving too, people see you coming and barge out in front of you in case you hold them up....I pull over if I have a queue of traffic behind me but very few ever acknowledge that with a wave or thankyou.

MrsDoomsPatterson Fri 14-Jun-13 20:24:08

people who say lollers are the biggest twats.

I agree! Never said it before & probably won't again, was just blown away by the pure twattishness of someone saying that.

MrsDoomsPatterson Fri 14-Jun-13 20:29:32

BTW, I actually said 'Twonks' - please get the insults correct, yah?

RoooneyMara Fri 14-Jun-13 20:39:56

I nearly got crushed by a skip lorry the other day. It was literally a split second decision that came, quite clearly, into my mind - If you do not mount the pavement, your baby will die.

I went up the pavement and thank fuck there was no one on it. The fucker was coming straight towards me, without stopping - I wasn't even scared. I just knew I had to act.

Perhaps he just didn't see me.

RoooneyMara Fri 14-Jun-13 20:42:14

Oh not you Theodora. Not again. My old adversary. Why do we always meet on these threads?

theodorakisses Fri 14-Jun-13 21:19:58

Because you think that that anyone who has a nice car and doesn't agree with you should be shot. I don't really care what car you drive but don't think you should hate all people who don't choose drive the cars on your list of acceptable vehicles

Lazyjaney Fri 14-Jun-13 21:21:12

Caught in a queue this pm behind a Nissan Micra conforming faithfully to stereotype, frustrated drivers in all sorts of cars behind did various taligates/ overtakes/ cut-ins / push pasts / etc to get past.

Car turned off before I had to try and get past it, made a meal even out of turning left.

Some drivers cause their own problems.

theodorakisses Fri 14-Jun-13 21:23:28

Twonk isn't a word and not a way to describe irritating and offesnsive people. Twat describes the type of person I was thinking of. Not stupid, just literal.

WeAppearToBeAlright Fri 14-Jun-13 21:33:57

I get much more consideration in my old banger 2L diesel estate peugeot 406 than I ever had in my shiny new 1.4L 206.

I think it's because I don't look like I care about another dent or scrape; I'm quite large; and I'm going quite fast.

In reality, I drive a lot more safely in this one because I loves it.

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Fri 14-Jun-13 21:57:45

Twonk works for me!

compos sadly I'll not be much use for your hair since I'm a civil servant

ComposHat Fri 14-Jun-13 22:27:59

It was a low blow I know, but it is THE stereotypical hairdressers car!

ComposHat Fri 14-Jun-13 22:28:54

My car is the mini-cabbers ride of choice mind you. So I can hardly talk.

theodorakisses Sat 15-Jun-13 06:08:32

twonk works for me


RoooneyMara Sat 15-Jun-13 08:37:48

Oh dear.

ipswichwitch Sat 15-Jun-13 09:10:34

The reason small car drivers are more hesitant at junctions and roundabouts is that the car can't pull away fast enough (small engine) to make it safely into a gap in traffic that a larger, faster car can make.
I drive an old 1.2 fiesta and get sick to fucking death of people trying to bully me out of junctions when I know fine well the car won't make it and I'll cause a pile up. They'd be even later for work then - twats.
I even had some arse shouting that I should get a better car once. And who's gonna pay for that? I drive it out of financial necessity not just to piss off those that own bigger/better/faster cars. And I'm certainly not an overly cautious, sudden braking, nervous driver.

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