to not understand why anyone would not wear a car seatbelt?

(90 Posts)
kim147 Sun 26-May-13 17:16:24

Saw a car leaving the supermarket car park. It was a child zone but we can ignore that for the moment. grin

3 young things - bloke in front seat. No seatbelt. Girl in passenger seat was putting on belt as car drove off. Rear passenger - no belt on as drove off.

I hope they put them on as they were driving. I had a passenger recently who did not put his belt on. Should I have done? He was an adult.

Just can't understand why anyone would not wear a seatbelt.

You should have done with your passenger as I believe it's the drivers responsibility?

YANBU though, lots of people just don't believe the worst will happen to them though.

HoHoHoNoYouDont Sun 26-May-13 17:20:03

Anyone who gets in my car wears a seatbelt or gets out.

Susandeath Sun 26-May-13 17:21:29

Anyone who goes in my car, adult or child, wears a seat belt or gets out. The advert where the back passenger (son) doesn't wear a seat belt and ends up crashing into the driver in an accident and kills her (his mum), just sums it up for me. My car, my rules. Don't like it, walk.

Sirzy Sun 26-May-13 17:22:00

I thought over the age of 13 it was the individuals responsibility not the drivers? Either way I wouldn't drive without everyone strapped in.

I get more annoyed when children aren't in appropriate car seats though.

Leeds2 Sun 26-May-13 17:23:18

My friend doesn't wear a seatbelt, because "it feels uncomfortable." She believes that the airbag will save her in the event of an accident.

danceponydance Sun 26-May-13 17:23:44

Anyone travelling in my car wears a seatbelt otherwise we don't go anywhere. The impact of large unrestrained objects in a car (human or otherwise) can kill or seriously injure the other occupants. It's beyond me why anyone would take the risk. YANBU

HoHoHoNoYouDont Sun 26-May-13 17:24:00
BackforGood Sun 26-May-13 17:25:56

I agree with you - it just feels 'odd' to not have a seatbelt on. I always feel uncomfortable on a bus for that reason.
When I'm driving I wouldn't drive anywhere unless everyone had their seatbelts on - adult or not, it's up to them, they put the belt on or they find alternative transport.

I wear them because of other drivers, if it wasn't for them I wouldn't. Didn't wear one when learning and I found I had more visibility.

Tee2072 Sun 26-May-13 17:26:39

My dad never used to wear one because 'he wasn't going to let no one tell him what to do in his car!!'

And then he nearly went through his front wind screen during an emergency stop.

Now he wears his seat belt.

oldendaysending Sun 26-May-13 17:30:34

I occasionally don't when making short journeys; bad habit. It isn't intentional, I just forget.

Susandeath Sun 26-May-13 17:32:13

First time I've tried a link, here goes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKHY69AFstE

Scrabbleyurt Sun 26-May-13 17:36:25

My ex didn't wear his seatbelt. Something I hated! He always said he wouldn't be dictated to over his own safety and he could make his own (stupid in my opinion) decisions. He also said he'd rather die in an accident than be maimed or disabled!

ComposHat Sun 26-May-13 17:40:20

Leeds you mate is an idiot and I hope she sees the error of her ways before she kills herself or someone else.

Seatbelts are the single most effective safety feature in any car, increasing your chance of surviving a crash by 70%

Airbags aren't design to restrain, they are to minimise face and chest injuries in the event of a crash. They will not prevent an adult not wearing a seatbelt from flying through the windscreen.

MortifiedAdams Sun 26-May-13 17:52:48

I refuse to start my car if anyone in it refuses to wear a seatbelt.

specialsubject Sun 26-May-13 17:59:39

some kids think they are invincible. Three or four teens/early twenties in one car have a hugely higher risk of dying, usually in single-vehicle incidents. (aka 'hitting the scenery').

never let anyone sit behind you unless they are wearing a belt - they are a danger to you as well as themselves. In fact, anyone who doesn't put a belt on at the first polite reminder can walk to their destination.

LaurieFairyCake - the seatbelt has no effect on visibility. Still, if you want to exit through the windscreen like Superman, that's your funeral. You'll provide an interesting challenge for the facial surgeons if you survive.

meglet Sun 26-May-13 18:04:10

Yanbu.

It's not unusual to notice people who don't bother. My neighbour drives off without it on most days angry.

Footface Sun 26-May-13 18:10:02

Bil and sil don't like seat belts as it restricts them, so they just wear the lap bit. They have passed it on to dn who can't possibly wear the belt in the correct way.

I drove mil ( without realising) on a long journey sitting behind me without her wearing a belt. I was livid. It's me she would have killed in an accident

BalloonSlayer Sun 26-May-13 18:18:16

People don't wear them because it restricts them, and they just know that THEIR driving is so good they will never have an accident. hmm

Before it was a legal requirement to wear them my late stepfather would very rarely wear one - only if my Mum nagged and nagged. Guess why he is my "late stepfather" ? Yep, spot on. sad

superbagpuss Sun 26-May-13 18:19:15

everyone should wear a belt

I don't like the across the body bit (hurts my lady humps) and sometimes not bother with that bit but am dedicated to my DC wearing theirs in their car seats properly

I do know someone who is only here today because he wasn't wearing a belt but that's got to be as luck thing.

I always love motorbikes, I have always had a healthy disregard for my life but have got better since DC

McNewPants2013 Sun 26-May-13 18:20:50

It's because they are idiots. I wonder if people would think differently if points was given to the driver as well as the fine.

I wouldn't pull off until ever seat belt is done.

McNewPants2013 Sun 26-May-13 18:23:02

Super my DH was in an accident ( before we met) and if he was wearing a seatbelt he would have been killed. I have always disbelieved him.

flanbase Sun 26-May-13 18:24:00

I only drive if everyone ids properly attached and items in the car secure as well. It's the law to wear a seat belt.

ruledbyheart Sun 26-May-13 18:24:32

My mum doesn't wear a seat belt hasn't done since my 5th birthday when the car caught fire and she couldn't undo it in her panic to get my sister and I out.

She has been stopped several times by police but never got into trouble.

I don't agree with her reasoning as its highly unlikely it would happen again but as she is over the age of 14 and not my responsibility in the vehicle I drive then its her decision I certainly wouldn't stop giving her a lift because of it.

Another thing if they saved so many lives etc why aren't they mandatory on buses?

Bogeyface Sun 26-May-13 18:26:28

A friend from school who I kept in semi contact with wasnt wearing his belt when he had an accident, he never wore it. When I saw him before the accident we would chat, catch up, have a good laugh.

His accident involved him being thrown through the front windscreen of his van and breaking his fall with his forehead. Now he doesnt know me, his family or anyone he used to know. He has such bad brain damage that he will never function independently again.

I cant drive without mine on, it would be like going out without my clothes on.

MrsMargoLeadbetter Sun 26-May-13 18:33:26

My bro was in a car accident. The police told him his seat belt saved his life.

I find it difficult to understand why one wouldn't.

Lifeisontheup Sun 26-May-13 18:38:59

Buses have a totally different distribution of forces as a rule.

My parents and my sister and me were involved in an accident when I was four (1969). A coach hit us when we were stationary at a zebra crossing. My parents were totally uninjured and were wearing seatbelts my Dad had installed himself, all of the rest of the passengers who were not wearing seatbelts were injured in various ways including myself and my sister.

Do the maths, you are much more at risk not wearing a seatbelt.

BalloonSlayer Sun 26-May-13 18:40:20

"Another thing if they saved so many lives etc why aren't they mandatory on buses?"

Firstly because buses (as opposed to coaches, which do now have seat belts) generally do not go very fast, and are unlikely to overturn or come off the road at speed. And if they do collide with something, it is extremely likely that they are going to be the biggest item in the collision, and will not come to a sudden stop. Eg: if a car hits a brick wall it will come to a dead stop, if a bus hits a brick wall it will demolish the wall and keep going. There is little a bus can hit that would make it come to a sudden stop.

The second reason is < cynic > that if buses had to have seatbelts then no one would be allowed to stand and bus companies would make a lot less money.

Susan - that advert has stayed with me since I first saw it.

Op - they're stupid.

MammaTJ Sun 26-May-13 19:07:08

My uncle died because he was not wearing a seatbelt. He slid on black ice, smashed in to a wall and his chest was crushed by the steering wheel.

SueDoku Sun 26-May-13 19:40:05

When I was 12 (a long, long time ago!) my best friend's parents were on holiday abroad without their children. They skidded, hit a railway bridge and her Mum, who never wore a seatbelt, was thrown through the windscreen and over the bridge, breaking her neck on the track below...

No-one, but no-one, gets driven in my car without wearing a seatbelt.

Princess Diana

Ilikethebreeze Sun 26-May-13 19:47:55

A young man was killed around our way, who was not wearing his seatbelt. He was the only occupant.
The accident was reported in the local newspaper, but not the fact about no seatbelt.
I could see that that may have been insensititive, but on the other hand, it may have saved lives to report it?

treaclesoda Sun 26-May-13 19:55:31

My MIL refuses to wear one as she 'doesn't feel safe with it on'. She is obsessed with how dangerous the roads are, and complains constantly about how people drive too fast (she has never learnt to drive herself) yet says things like 'we didn't have car seats when you were little, and you're all ok!'. Yes, that's because you weren't in an accident, not because you weren't using seatbelts. hmm

When I was a teacher I drove the school minibus a fair bit and I wouldn't start the engine if the kids weren't all wearing a belt. They were a bit surprised by this as apparently other teachers didn't insist on it and let them do things like having an extra student sitting on the floor. Make sure your children know that there are no exceptions, even if their friends aren't wearing a belt.

treesntrees Sun 26-May-13 20:07:44

I hated travelling with my disabled friend in her adapted van as none of her personal assistants ever restrained her empty wheelchair even after I had shown them how to restrain it. I know it was my friend's responsibility to tell them but I couldn't understand them driving with a large very heavy metal object parked unrestrained behind them. I was always glad the back passenger seat was behind the wheelchair although in a rollover that wouldn't have helped. Thankfully she no longer has her own vehicle.

MrsRogerSterling Sun 26-May-13 20:11:24

My car have an alarm type noise that gets louder and more persistent if a passenger isn't wearing a seatbelt.

PrettyKitty1986 Sun 26-May-13 20:15:11

When you're driving home from your spray tan and don't want to risk rubbing it off. That could be a reason for some.

Not me, obviously.

Oldraver Sun 26-May-13 20:18:55

Yes I am also of the 'no one travels in my car without a seatbelt. My Dad was once in the back and refused to put his belt on. It was in the days befor it was compulsory and there was a stand off for a while. My Mu told him I would get fined if he didnt (a little white lie)... He insisted that if the car didnt have belts then he would of been travelling without one...er I have never had a car without belts for the last 30 years.

In the end I told him he HAD to wear the belt or get out....he got out aand into his car to drive, and what did he do....put his belt on

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe Sun 26-May-13 21:56:32

I don't wear one, I'm medically exempt.

However, if I have passengers in the car, I will wear one, just in case as that advert of unrestrained people haunts me and I don't want to kill anybody else.

imaginethat Sun 26-May-13 22:12:04

I never understand this either, however I have come across many who don't because "it's not comfortable".

I think some people are simply too stupid to safely take part in normal life.

McNewPants2013 Sun 26-May-13 22:14:25

MRS my car to

Thinkingpositively Sun 26-May-13 22:17:21

No...It's silly not too. However, having traveled a bit to countries where families of four go out helmetless on mopeds, i can't help thinking our culture is so risk averse it borders on the ridiculous.........

ComposHat Sun 26-May-13 22:20:59

I never understand this either, however I have come across many who don't because "it's not comfortable"

If it is uncomfortable try adjusting the height of the seatbelt and/or the rake of the chair.

Just before I was born, my dad got hit in the eye whilst playing squash and spent a week or two in the eye infirmary. The majority of the other patients were very young men who weren't wearing seatbelts and had gone through the windscreens of their cars and were suffering serious eye injuries including sight loss. I imagine they were in a great deal more discomfort than if they'd worn a seatbelt.

MortifiedAdams Sun 26-May-13 22:30:43

I think some people are simply too stupid to safely take part in normal life

I love this sentence and think it applies to a lot of situations. I often wonder how certain exceptionally thick people survive grin

IneedAsockamnesty Mon 27-May-13 00:58:27

I once spent over an hour in Waitrose car park refusing to move my car or even start the engine because a adult passenger outright refused to put his seatbelt on or exit the car.

It was quite possibly one of the weirdest situations ever he even started getting aggressive in the car and couldn't get his head around the whole " put your seat belt on or get out of the car" line.

IneedAsockamnesty Mon 27-May-13 00:59:27

Forget to add I ended up having to call the police.

Bloody hell pixie! Did he put it on in the end?

GingerBlondecat Mon 27-May-13 07:45:48

I DO wear my seatbelt every single trip.

But, I really hate it. it cuts across my Neck and Im forever tugging on it. I feel chocked. It leaves a red line across my neck too.

But............... I do wear it.

Have you adjusted it ginger?

GrassIsntGreener Mon 27-May-13 07:50:17

I too feel naked without it. My dad even installed them in our old old car (a classic car now - it was old then, I'm 32) as children.

To the 'we never had them and were fine' argument - the roads are a lot busier now than thy used to be. People used to casually and regularly drink drive without breaking the law, doesn't make it sensible or okay to do that now, same with seatbelts.

My 4.5yo won't let me start the car until she's properly buckled in.

rumbelina Mon 27-May-13 07:50:57

It is absolutely non negotiable for anyone getting in my car. i was hit at 70mph by an out of control drunk driver when I was doing 25 and I would be so dead now if I hadn't been wearing a seatbelt. The 'I'm a really good driver' line annoys the shit out of me. Also you may want to make your own safety decisions but spare a thought for your family and the paramedics who have to scrape you off the pavement.

ThisWayForCrazy Mon 27-May-13 07:53:34

The local buses here have seat belts. And signs saying its the law to wear them. People still don't, which annoys me as it makes it unsafe for me and my DC who do wear them! In an accident they will fall all over the place and on to us, possibly causing us injuries. Winds me up.

ThisWayForCrazy Mon 27-May-13 07:54:00

Oh and I won't start my car until all seat belts are done up.

GingerBlondecat Mon 27-May-13 07:54:09

it's as adjusted as it's going to get.

I ma really short person blush

I even stoped in and asked at the police station, they couldn't help either.

GingerBlondecat Mon 27-May-13 07:56:31

sorry forgot to add, we cannot buy those adjuster thingys that attatch at the top of the seetbelt. They don't exist in South Aussie. sad

Erm. Booster seat? grin

I know what you mean, I'm quite short and feel uncomfortable after a while, but as you say, wear it anyway!

GingerBlondecat Mon 27-May-13 08:00:04

blush I have actually looked at booster seats. I got looked at quite strangely lolgrin

sashh Mon 27-May-13 08:00:50

ginger

I know what you mean, I use the seat and seat belt adjustment as a priority when picking a new car. I think they need to do booster cushions for adults.

GingerBlondecat Mon 27-May-13 08:05:06

Lol, I think Mumsnet just invented the next greatest invention. Booster Seats for Adults grin

It'll sell like sliced Bread and Hot cakes

NewAtThisMalarky Mon 27-May-13 08:06:01

My cousin was in a car accident, wearing his seatbelt.

Thankfully it broke, and he was thrown out of the car as otherwise he would have died.

But it's more likely that a seatbelt will help not hinder, so despite that accident he still wears his seatbelt.

ThisWayForCrazy Mon 27-May-13 08:06:47

Ginger, how about these? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SEAT-BELT-ADJUSTERS-CLIPS-BELT-STOPS-KLUNK-KLIP-/251124359362?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a782da0c2

MinnieBar Mon 27-May-13 08:07:22

Ha, I was just going to suggest a booster seat too grin!

My GM couldn't wear one comfortably (if memory serves, she died when over twenty years ago) because she was simply too fat.

We can't now all go in the same car as MIL because we can't work out how to get the extra seats back into the boot blush but when we only had two DCs and could, every single time she'd say, 'Do I have to?' like a petulant toddler and I'd want to reply, 'Look, I don't care if you get in an accident or die, you're wearing one so I don't die, ok?'

ThisWayForCrazy Mon 27-May-13 08:07:22

You'll have to copy and past that. I haven't worked out links yet.

GingerBlondecat Mon 27-May-13 08:08:21

Next car Im going to check for
1. The adjustable seatbelt
2. A headrest that works with long hair aka wearing a bun without having to hold my head at an odd angle.
3. drives itself lol, well why not, they now make cars that can park themselves

grin

GingerBlondecat Mon 27-May-13 08:10:50

ThisWayForCrazy Darling, I love you. Mwah <3

flowers

ExcuseTypos Mon 27-May-13 08:11:01

To answer your question OP, it's because they are stupid.

I don't start my car until all seat belts are done up.

RichManPoorManBeggarmanThief Mon 27-May-13 08:18:47

My old boss doesnt wear a seatbelt because once he was driving down a road and a stag ran in front of him, and came through the windscreen. He managed to duck sideways as not restrained by seatbelt and so didnt get spiked by the antlers. Therefore he thinks fate is telling him not to wear a seatbelt.

IneedAsockamnesty Mon 27-May-13 09:11:17

TeWi

No the police turned up and arrested him,by that point he was so incandescent with rage at being asked to belt up he punched the car window and smashed it.

shock wow. What a horrible experience.

Bogeyface Mon 27-May-13 09:58:41

wow Sock who was he?

dancingwithmyselfandthecat Mon 27-May-13 10:05:27

Ginger, I am also fairly short. I have a cushion strapped to the car seat, and I've also put a cushion around the seatbelt at the point it cuts my neck. It really sucks that they don't think about short people!

IneedAsockamnesty Mon 27-May-13 10:15:01

My estranged husband.

saintmerryweather Mon 27-May-13 10:19:24

i tried to turn my car round in our drive without my seatbelt on and i couldnt cope, it really didnt feel right! i dont carry any passengers in my car without their seatbelts being done up. my mum had an accident where she wasnt wearing one (car didnt have em), she went from the rear passenger side seat through the windscreen, taking the headrest with her

Bogeyface Mon 27-May-13 10:23:10

I hope he is now your ex husband?! What an asshole!

Fakebook Mon 27-May-13 10:27:24

Why wouldn't anyone wear a seatbelt? I'm shocked people wouldn't wear one! Whenever I've seen anyone get in a car, first thing they do is put their seatbelt on. I would feel naked without mine on.

IneedAsockamnesty Mon 27-May-13 13:18:32

I have to find him before he can become an ex husband grin

I wear a seat belt in the back depending on the journey. If it is a short drive and unlikely that anyone can drive over 30 MPH (we are infested by lights and speed bumps) then i don't, the drive from my local supermarkets rarely goes over 20 MPH.

Children should always be strapped in, but i do think that adults should have the right to choose, when sat in the back, the agreement should come from the person sitting in front as well.

I don't agree with the continual beeping when you take your belt off, sometimes it is safe to do so, to take your coat off, or something and i think that the beeping can be distracting for the driver.

Seatbelts do save lives and stop injuries, but there are circumstances were they can be undone, and no harm is going to come to the passenger (yes i have had tires blow out).

DeafLeopard Mon 27-May-13 13:34:39

Our drive is awkward to get off, so I don't wear my seatbelt to reverse off, but then put it on before moving off.

Those who don't wear a belt, if your car gets hit by someone else, and you get injured, you may not be able to control it to bring it to a stop.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe Mon 27-May-13 13:39:25

Deafleopard... I think if you are THAT injured, it really won't matter whether you were wearing the belt or not and the car will be 'stopped' anyway as it will be the impact that caused the injury in the first place.

IneedAsockamnesty Mon 27-May-13 13:50:26

Birds, you do realise that in the back of a car the danger is not so much to you but to the people in the front?

EduCated Mon 27-May-13 14:08:57

Birds, with all due respect, that is bollocks. I don't know how anyone who has seen this can ink it ok to not wear a seatbelt in the back.

My FIL has his seat belt buckle plugged in but cut through the strap to stop the incessant beeping when he is not strapped in. He is also of the ilk that says no one can tell him what to do in his own car. Unfortunately he has brainwashed MIL to think the same.

My DD and any other future DC will never travel in their car, nor will I drive PIL anywhere. Selfish idiots. FIL does a lot of long journeys alone for work, and I dread the day we will get that phone call. It's not fair on DH or the rest of the family.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe Mon 27-May-13 14:18:11

EduCated...yy. That is the advert that makes me wear my seatbelt with others in the car. Everytime. I'll never wear it when I'm alone.

saintmerryweather Mon 27-May-13 14:51:55

there just isnt a good reason not to wear one

ComposHat Mon 27-May-13 14:55:07

Given the risk it poses to other people, I'd like to see seatbelt law enforced more rigorously, treating it akin to speeding or drink driving. I can see no reason why someone who shows utter disregard for other people's safety, by not wearing a seatbelt shouldn't be subject to a driving ban.

ComposHat Mon 27-May-13 14:58:56

My FIL has his seat belt buckle plugged in but cut through the strap to stop the incessant beeping when he is not strapped in

In which case his car will fail its next MOT straight away and won't get another MOT until the seatbelt is replaced.

TWinklyLittleStar Mon 27-May-13 15:20:16

birds I was in the back of a stationary car as a child, old car with no belts fitted. We were hit by another car and if I had a seatbelt on I wouldn't have needed my skull stapled back together.

I have seen the aftermath of a number of crashes where it almost boggles belief that nobody was hurt. All those uninjured, lucky people were wearing their belt.

Thisvehicleisreversing Mon 27-May-13 15:35:11

A friend of mine is possibly the most dangerous driver ever.

She drives a huge car because small ones 'don't feel right' although she only uses it for school and supermarket run.

She needs glasses but won't wear them when driving confused

She never wears her seatbelt and thinks because she's a 'safe' driver she'll be fine.

When her DD was little she'd put her in the car seat with the strap really loose and only over her lap, not over the shoulders. I pointed out how dangerous it was but she just said "I'm a careful driver and anyway I don't pick up enough speed to be dangerous" Never mind that other drivers might be the danger. hmm

I won't go in her car.

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