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to continue to abuse my neighbour's dog?

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iProcrastinate Sun 26-May-13 11:21:22

Sorry for the dramatic title, but that is what I am being accused of doing!

The sun has finally come out here, so I've let DD (4) play out in the garden, in her sandpit, tent and with a bucket of water etc. She isn't a loud, screamy child but does chat away to herself constantly.

My neighbours have a dog, not sure what breed, it's quite small in stature but has a massive head and broad shoulders. I've already had problems as this dog barks its bollocks off everytime we walk past the house (hard to avoid as we are at the end of a cul de sac) and the neighbour doesn't like us doing this as it upsets his dog.

DD was happily playing in the garden, I was in the kitchen with the patio open (she wasn't being noisy, I could hardly hear her through the open doors) and I hear neighbour shouting "Excuse me! Excuse me!" over the fence (7ft fence so we can't see into each others gardens etc)

I answer to him and he asks if I can keep DD inside the house as his dog doesn't like DD playing outside, I can hear dog panting and making sort of growly snarly noises behind the fence. I'd heard it barking earlier but it barks most of the time in my experience so I didn't think anything of it! I asked if he could keep his dog inside if it was so upset by a child playing quietly. He said it would be against his dogs rights to be kept in when it's warm he leaves his back doors open and dog likes to come in and out as it pleases.

I said DD is just playing quietly in our own garden, he said it didn't matter, his dog knew she was there and didn't like it. He was being quite arsey short with me so I just said back that its not our problem if his dog didn't like children, and we are allowed to use our garden (heaven knows we pay enough rent to use it!)

He snaps back "I'll report you to the RSPCA! You are causing unnecessary distress to my dog! You are abusing an animal" - I hear him storm back into the house, the he shouts back "Just you hope he doesn't work out how to get through the fence!"

If DD was being noisy, I'd ask her to be quiet and see his point, or if she was playing right next to the fence, but she's not, she's at the other end of the garden and I can hardly hear her 8 feet away. I've continued to let her play out but am sitting in the garden with her now, and can hear the dog pacing on the other side of the fence, breathing noisily.

I'm not a dog person and I don't know much about them - AIBU?

beth27123 Sun 26-May-13 11:23:27

As a dog person I can say no, let him call the RSPCA they'll laugh at him and if they do turn up they'll possible investigate him. Judging by your description there's a chance this dog is aggressive so Im sure it'll be noted. Why don't you all go play out?

Sparklingbrook Sun 26-May-13 11:23:52

YANBU. The neighbour is bonkers. And a bit threatening re the remark about it possibly getting through the fence.

No, you're definitely not - he sounds absolutely bonkers!

onlyablip Sun 26-May-13 11:24:29

No YANBU. He is.

Sirzy Sun 26-May-13 11:24:45

I would tell them to feel free to report, I am sure it would give the RSPCA a laugh!

He is being ridiculous if he expects you to keep your child inside all summer

ASmidgeofMidge Sun 26-May-13 11:24:47

Hell no, yanbu! You've got every right to use your own garden; it sounds like he needs to find some way of acclimatising his dog to every day life

If invite at least 10 kids around every day to play in my garden if I were you.

Stupid fucker.

iProcrastinate Sun 26-May-13 11:24:59

I live alone with my daughter so we are all playing out, I've bought my laptop out so I can catch up on some paperwork while she is happily engaged :-)

Thanks for the reassurance - I've had no experience with the RSPCA so wasn't sure if they'd take him or me seriously!

Hardhaton Sun 26-May-13 11:25:24

What a knob of a neighbour u have! I have a dog and yes he barks at my neighbours if they are in the garden. It's just what they do! But we tell ours to be quiet.
I really wouldn't let it upset you.

ChaoticTranquility Sun 26-May-13 11:25:33

YANBU he is being ridiculous. This has made me grin because it's so ridiculous...him not you.

Bowlersarm Sun 26-May-13 11:26:07

Blimey YANBU.

Your dd has as much right to be in her garden as your neighbours dog has to be in it's garden.

I am a dog (and children!) owner. It's just non sensical of him.

How ridiculous.

D0oinMeCleanin Sun 26-May-13 11:26:48

As the owner of a dog who 'barks his bollocks off' when kids play in the alley behind my house, YANBU, it is my responsibility to keep my dog quiet and ensure my dog cannot get through to the alley. The neighbour's children have every right to play in the alley, peacefully and safely.

I'd ring the dog warden, tbh, his attitude is disgusting and dangerous.

ZillionChocolate Sun 26-May-13 11:26:58

If you didn't have to live next door to the idiot this would be hilarious. YANBU!

Sparklingbrook Sun 26-May-13 11:27:03

Get a trampoline. Today.

mrsjay Sun 26-May-13 11:27:16

oh god sake he is a loon obviously . let him do his best or worst folk will laugh at him if his dog is distressed maybe he should take it out for a long walk away from scary 4 year olds grin

WorraLiberty Sun 26-May-13 11:28:32

Oh come on

REALLY??

Polyethyl Sun 26-May-13 11:28:54

Obviously the man is an idiot.
But as the dog is unfriendly I'd double check the fence to ensure he can't get in. Perhaps even put a trellis above the fence, to make it higher, in case there is anything leaning on the fence on the neighbours side that the dog could use as a climbing frame to get over the fence.

eminemmerdale Sun 26-May-13 11:29:13

Dickhead! Our neighbours have a yappy fucker little schnauzer who barks constantly, but they are always really apologetic and dd goes round to play with her sometimes. He is threatening you by saying about the dog getting through the fence. I'd make sure that you're out there as much as possible!

Rikalaily Sun 26-May-13 11:29:54

He is as barking as his dog! Ignore him, we have a dog and if he starts barking outside we bring him straight in, I wouldn't go telling the neighbours to stop what they are doing which he barks at.

Tell him if it gets through the fence and attacks on your property it could be shot by the police or euthanized by a vet and he will be arrested. Maybe he should have socialised his dog properly and it wouldn't be as worked up as it is now.

ChippingInLovesSpring Sun 26-May-13 11:30:14

I love dogs.

I love kids.

Each should be able to play out in their own backgarden without bothering the other smile

This guy sounds like a fucking nut job and his dog sounds potentially harmful. I would be calling the local dog control officer and asking them to pay me a visit. Most of them are really nice people who will assess the situation for you without causing any hassle with next door. Remember to tell them about him not liking you to walk past his house as well.

Don't let him intimidate you back into the house or 'shusshing' DD (not that you sound like you would mind you!).

landofsoapandglory Sun 26-May-13 11:30:19

YANBU he is and he sounds as mad as a box of frogs!

I've never heard of a child playing out being classed as abusing dogs! Carry on as you are and ignore him!

acceptableinthe80s Sun 26-May-13 11:31:16

He asked you to keep your child indoors as she's upsetting his dog! I've heard it all now. You were way more polite than i would have been though my initial reaction would probably have been to burst out laughing.
If the dog is constantly barking i'd be informing the environmental health and complaining about the noise.
And if the dog was behaving aggressively, growling etc i'd be concerned and would be calling the RSPCA myself. Does the dog get taken out for walks at? Sounds like it may have socialization problems which can be dangerous should it ever escape.
Of course you're not BU.

Get a bubble machine. They are quite loud and the bubbles will go into his garden. See if he reports you for trying to poison his dog with bubbles.

YANBU. That's crazy.

acceptableinthe80s Sun 26-May-13 11:31:56

*at all

cantreachmytoes Sun 26-May-13 11:34:18

Thanks for this! YDNBU!
If you didn't have to live next to him this would be funny. As I don't have to live next to him, I'm having a right old giggle.

Seriously though, the dog does sound a bit dangerous, probably from being unacclimatised to living in the real world. Someone mentioned a dog warden. I don't know what that is, exactly, but it does sound like an idea to do something to make sure the dog DOES stay on his side of the fence.

Halfling Sun 26-May-13 11:34:26

You should warn your neighbour that if he ever says things like "Just you hope he doesn't work out how to get through the fence!", you will involve the police. He sounds like a right loon.

Please ensure that the fence is secure and can nit be breached by the dog.

D0oinMeCleanin Sun 26-May-13 11:37:09

A lot of dogs guard their perimeters, it has bot all to do with socialisation. It's instinct.

It can be trained for.

My wee barker is a lot better now. He likes to lay in the sun when it's nice out and used to crack up when he heard the kids playing in the alley, no-one here has a garden but a few of the neighbours sometimes put paddling pools and trampolines in the alley, which drove my dog potty. That was my issue, not the neighbours.

He's a lot better now and can mainly lay quietly when they're out there playing, he knows that laying quietly when there are kids "threatening" his turf = the chance of chicken, barking = being brought back into the house and having the door closed on him. He only barks now when he hears them playing with balls and that's more of "oooh, let me play, please" bark than a "fuck off away from my house" bark.

iProcrastinate Sun 26-May-13 11:40:04

Thanks everyone - I've checked over the fence and it seems pretty secure (the bottom bits are concrete and the top is solid panels, I had to replace one on the other side of the garden after a storm and I can vouch for the fact that they weigh an absolute tonne).

DD wants to come in now anyway as hayfever is getting the best of us both lol, but I'll let her play out in the summer without stressing about his precious pooch needing counselling lol

Nanny0gg Sun 26-May-13 11:40:09

This guy sounds like a fucking nut job and his dog sounds potentially harmful. I would be calling the local dog control officer and asking them to pay me a visit. Most of them are really nice people who will assess the situation for you without causing any hassle with next door. Remember to tell them about him not liking you to walk past his house as well. Don't let him intimidate you back into the house or 'shusshing'DD (not that you sound like you would mind you!).

^^ This.

I think I'd be a little concerned about this neighbour. Ring the council and make sure you're always in earshot when your DD is in the garden.

Blatherskite Sun 26-May-13 11:45:38

I'd be ringing the dog control officer too. That man has a very skewed idea of where in the pecking order his dog sits and I would be very worried about it's socialisation and him making threats like that against a little girl!

cozietoesie Sun 26-May-13 11:47:59

I'm nearly speechless on this one.

Have you talked informally to your landlord in case he's made trouble for previous tenants?

As well as that, I'd be having a quiet word with your local dog warden and community police officer. That 'Just you hope he doesn't work out how to get through the fence!' sounded awfully like a threat to me and you don't want to have to find out - even though you'd be entirely in the right.

Has he caused any other sorts of trouble since you've been there?

OrangeFootedScrubfowl Sun 26-May-13 11:49:43

What a nut your neighbour is!

Saski Sun 26-May-13 11:55:34

I'd be concerned & treading carefully. The dog has issues and I'd report this, that's also a pretty aggressive stance to take with a neighbor. Your landlord (do you have a common landlord?) might appreciate your substantiating the fact that he actually has a dog if this is a breach of his tenancy agreement.

wonderingsoul Sun 26-May-13 12:01:23

you where alot more reframed then me.

i would have laughed instantly, then retorted that my child has human rights not to be stuck indoors allday and is actually allowed in her own back garden.

that you would be reporting the treat that the dog would attack if he got into the garden. becasue basically that is what he is saying.

lljkk Sun 26-May-13 12:12:26

Neighbour is loon, I look forward to regular updates from OP.

Sparklingbrook Sun 26-May-13 12:13:09

I wonder if loon neighbour does any other bonkers stuff we could laugh at?

I would call 101 and get advice as to me that is a threat and he is clearly bonkers. Police can advise you and there will be a record of this OBE instance should his threats continue.

One instance .

stupid effing phone!

Sparklingbrook Sun 26-May-13 12:24:53

I did think about that Too, thought people may think it was an over reaction but it might be a good idea, should anything escalate.

Booyhoo Sun 26-May-13 12:25:13

i'm having a 4 year old's birthday party at my house tomorrow. i can move it to your garden if you like? grin

It would be an over reaction if he wasn't clearly on another planet. I would worry that he'd try and prove a point. Likely he won't, but worth getting advice just incase.

cozietoesie Sun 26-May-13 12:32:15

I'm not sure it would be an over-reaction, Sparkling. The thing is that it sounds (forgive me if I've overlooked) as if the OP hasn't lived there that long and she may well have no idea what this man has been up to as well and in the past. That was why I suggested a quiet word with (the landlord and) the CPO.

I did wonder if he was maybe half cut, it being Sunday morning after a possible night before, but even if so it sounds as if it's a regular occurrence. I'd get the incident on the record one way or another.

Yy to cozie. He may have form for anti-social behaviour so reporting may nip it in the bud.

Sparklingbrook Sun 26-May-13 12:36:20

Is there a Mrs Bonkers iP?

Roary1 Sun 26-May-13 12:38:51

I know a lot about this subject as I re-home and rehabilitate damaged animals (who normally come from GENUINELY abusive homes) and are left with behavioural issues. The dangerous dogs act states an animal does not have to bite a child to be put down, scaring a child by barking or snarling can also lead to a dog being destroyed. I would tell him to go to the RSPCA as you will be viewed as a reasonable mum protecting your child and his dog will be viewed as contravening the DDA. It is very unlikely the dog will be destroyed but the police/RSPCA will give him a bollocking and tell him if it continues his dog will be put down. As a dog owner I find it disgusting someone can behave this way it gives many responsible dog owners a bad name.

IneedAyoniNickname Sun 26-May-13 12:40:39

To could host a MN meet up in your garden OP wink

Fairenuff Sun 26-May-13 12:41:54

Get a trampoline. Today.

Agreed grin

Oldraver Sun 26-May-13 12:42:01

I'm not surprised by this at all as I had a nutty neighbour the same. If you went into the garden her dogs (next door but one) would go apeshit barking growling and jumping at the small wire fence, she would then hang out the window going apeshit as well. If people walked past the back of her garden down the alley the dogs went mad.

Once her dog chased my cat into our porch and I shoo-ed him away cue neighbour going apeshit again at me. The only thing that solved it was her moving

TSSDNCOP Sun 26-May-13 12:45:30

Honestly? I would have laughed in his face. Nutter.

If he comes out again give him fair warning if you can keep a straight face. A third time call 101.

fuzzpig Sun 26-May-13 12:49:15

Oh to be a fly on the wall in the RSPCA office when he phones them grin

cocolepew Sun 26-May-13 12:55:05

I would phone 101 or the dog warden to log this too.
Do you or your DD play a musical instrument? If so march up and down the garden playing it.
If not, buy one grin

MrsDeVere Sun 26-May-13 12:56:34

Idiot man.
If his dog is distressed my the normal noises and activities and HE is not doing anything about it,
HE is abusing his dog.

You don't just let your dog carry on with worrying behaviours.
You train them and allow them to be relaxed and happy.

Or at least you do your very best.

RSPCA would think he was an idiot.
If he is Housing Association I would remind him that he is probably not allowed to keep a dog and if he is there will be certain restrictions on what type.

pictish Sun 26-May-13 12:58:38

I would call 101 too, for advice, as I think he issued you a clear threat.
What an arsehole - he wouldn't get anywhere with me using those tactics.
I'd send the cops round to shut the loser up.

catgirl1976 Sun 26-May-13 12:58:47

I love dogs.

Your neighbor is a loon and your DD has every right to play outside!

Am shock at your loony neighbor. I didn't think I would ever tell anyone to carry on abusing an animal, but in your case........well, carry on smile

cozietoesie Sun 26-May-13 13:01:07

Personally, and particularly as the OP is not living by herself, I'd quietly check him out before doing anything overtly antagonistic. He's a clear nutter and I'd like, myself, to be sure that that's all he is and that he hasn't got form for taking things further.

ENormaSnob Sun 26-May-13 13:04:22

I'd contact 101 and the dog people.

He is barking.

The threat of the dog getting in your garden would worry me.

WafflyVersatile Sun 26-May-13 13:07:53

Abuse away!

It is worrying that he sees the dog potentially attacking your child as your problem not a dog-training issue. And that was a threat.

I agree with phoning the dog warden or RSPCA or 101, not sure which is more appropriate just to get it on file, if nothing else.

Jamillalliamilli Sun 26-May-13 13:11:14

My neighbour used her dog as excuses for irrational demands including us not using our garden, and kept breaking the fences and claiming I’d done it.
One day she thrust the poor terrified thing up at me and threatened it would bite me.
I reported it as no action required, but please note, just because I was fed up.

She later accused me of having poisoned and killed it!
It turned out poor thing had died through her stupidity and she knew this, but the record of how she previously used it to try and get her own way and create confrontation points, served me well in how I was treated during the investigation.

KatyTheCleaningLady Sun 26-May-13 13:11:39

I would be very angry about the veiled threat and would likely reply with something to the effect of "if that dog ever gets into our garden, I will fucking kill it."

But, I try to bite my tongue a lot because that sort of response is really not helpful when dealing with loonies.

pictish Sun 26-May-13 13:15:47

I wouldn't even begin to engage in a conversation about it.
He's bonkers. As soon as he threatened you, it became a matter for the police. I would've said 'ok then...see you later' gone inside and dialled 101...no fucking about, no discussion, no mercy.

QueVes Sun 26-May-13 13:18:54

Who cares, it's a dog not a person. If he's concerned that dogs need freedom to go outside when they want ask him why he owns one.

Yanbu, i'm an avid animal lover, but your neighbour has clearly lost the plot im afraid. Maybe he has dementia or some mental illness.

TheCraicDealer Sun 26-May-13 13:36:36

I told DP about this and he says you could get the po-po involved as, strictly speaking, this is assault. If you felt threatened or worried that violence might occur, it's assault (I questioned this and he said, "of course I'm sure, I'm a fucking policeman!").

The bit about the dog getting through the fence would really frighten me.

Fairylea Sun 26-May-13 13:39:28

He sounds mentally ill actually. Not rational behaviour at all.

Just ignore him.

And make sure your fencing is very secure.

fuzzypicklehead Sun 26-May-13 13:40:07

If a dog is well trained, you can have an army of small children doing all sorts outside without it making a peep.

It's his job to train his dog to ignore neighboring gardens and people walking past. He clearly hasn't done this effectively.

cozietoesie Sun 26-May-13 13:41:56

He may not wish to, fuzzy. Some people let animals (usually dogs) act out in the way they would really like to do themselves.

vintagecakeisstillnice Sun 26-May-13 13:44:57

Was just coming on to say the thecraicdealer said, I asked OH a copper, and he laughed and then asked if I was serious? He said he'd take it as a threat. . .

Dawndonna Sun 26-May-13 13:45:27

My dog (Cavalier, King Charles) occasionally barks at the neighbour's children. I say: 'One, two, three' and the girls say 'Be quiet, Dawn's dog'.
It's definitely your neighbour that has a problem. I too would be reporting him. I'd also take some pictures of your side of the fence, and keep checking it for damage for a while.

Wtf? What a prick!! We've got 2 dogs and I'm not being funny, but if ANYONE has a right to be in the garden it's your child!! If he frikkin walked it, I'm sure would be quite happy to just go out occasionally. What a complete and utter twat!
My ds goes mental when he's stuck in, so on sunny days it's a godsend when he can go out.
And with regards the comment about it getting into your garden, well, you don't want to know where I would have gone with that one! But that was a threat to your child.

pinkballetflats Sun 26-May-13 13:50:26

It is you neighbour who is doing that abusing. He is clearly at least socially unstable, believes his dog is aggressive and finds the fact that his dog would likely attack your daughter entertaining. I would take that threat extremely seriously. He is NOT a responsible dog owner and by the sounds if it views this animal as an extension to his in personal aggressiveness. It would not be unreasonable for you to speak to the police and I would also be inclined to record the dog - and his owner if possible - behaving aggressively.

toffeelolly Sun 26-May-13 14:02:11

What a arsehole.

Do call the police OP. I had a similar problem with my downstairs neighbour and their dog - said dog barks incessantly if we're in our garden and he's in theirs, also barks madly if anyone walks past their front door to get to ours.

My charmer of a neighbour started effing and blinding at me one day because my then-1yo DS was "too noisy" and making his dog scared. He said almost the exact same thing yours said to you - "better hope he doesn't get into your garden" - and I would not have put it past him to accidentally-on-purpose let the dog out. I felt threatened, I was shaky all day, and I still purposely avoid him because I am scared.

The police took me really seriously, they were great. They told me that what my neighbour (and by extention yours) did is actually illegal and should always be reported.

whosiwhatsit Sun 26-May-13 14:46:52

Definitely report him. He threatened your child - this is serious and he's crazy. Not funny. If the police don't do anything and you rent and can afford to move, I'd move. Better to overreact than under react as he clearly can't control his dog and is refusing to take responsibility. An angry and determined dog can eventually work their way through most fences in time. How strong is that fence again?

Concreteblonde Sun 26-May-13 14:51:57

My neighbour asked me not to hang my washing out on the line as it upset her dog grin

Wishiwasanheiress Sun 26-May-13 14:54:04

All of the above comments are brilliant. Another one supporting u op. how's it been since?

whosiwhatsit Sun 26-May-13 14:57:38

This tragedy happened just yesterday evening. The victim was in his garden. www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/26/liverpool-pensioner-dies-dog-attack. Not to scare you, OP, just to make sure you take this seriously.

SlimePrincess Sun 26-May-13 15:06:18

I heard about that sad

flanbase Sun 26-May-13 15:12:02

agree with Galaxydefender - call the local police and explain that he said he hopes the dog doesn't get through the fence. Your garden is your property and your child can be in the garden normally. His dog sounds like it needs training to be able to able to follow the commands of it's owner to leave your child peacefully. He can't talk to you like this by shouting for you over then fence.

Sparklyboots Sun 26-May-13 15:12:20

I am a dog person. Your neighbour isn't; he's a twat who CBA to control his dog and would rather make it your problem. We had loud, barky, scary looking dogs and if they did that to a neighbour they would either be coerced into calmness or removed from the situation. YANBU and the neighbour has made an actual threat against your daughter - I'd definitely being referring this to the landlord and the police.

flanbase Sun 26-May-13 15:16:28

yes - he needs to be able to call his dog to heel and sit quietly and stay. Dogs that can't do this and are disturbed by normal noise are a danger.

Fairenuff Sun 26-May-13 16:04:53

He is saying that if the dog gets out of the garden, it will pose a risk.

That should be reported because if that is genuinely the owner's opinion, the dog should not be left in the garden unless it is contained in a run, or tied securely.

Presumably, if the dog gets loose, it is a risk to all members of the public, not just you and your daughter?

VivaLeBeaver Sun 26-May-13 16:10:19

As a dog person I'd say your neighbour is a twat.

I have a new dog who is territorial aggressive, which it sounds like his dog is. I've had my dog 3 weeks and when I first got him he'd go nuts if next door's dogs were out.

I've sorted it within 3 weeks and my dog is now nice and quiet in the garden rather than snarling and barking through the hedge. I had to go out with my dog everytime he went outside for two weeks and kindly teach him he wasn't to do it.

Your neighbour needs to sort his dog out and get a big reality check.

MagzFarqharson Sun 26-May-13 16:17:52

This is a joke, right? If not I have a gun you can borrow.

Concrete - my dog goes batshit crazy at next door's washing blush Their dog is a royal pain in the arse though (whereas mine is just anti washinghmm ) so I'm not top fussed! confused

Misspixietrix Sun 26-May-13 17:44:04

YDNBU OP! Like others have said let him call the RSPCA. I feel your pain, one of our NDNs has 2 dogs that bark their bollocks off if I so much as open the back door.
Unlike your Neighbour, they have never asked me to keep my kids indoors hmm and they bring them in when they get too noisy so i've never felt the need to ask them likewise as they're actively trying to control it. I just can't get over him asking you not to use YOUR Garden confused ~

Khaleese Sun 26-May-13 18:03:08

Just poison his dog.

Not really :-) he's an idiot, i once had someone ask me to restrain my dog ( in our garden) as his horse had an issue with it. ( she may have barked)

My response was " err, no, she's in the garden"

Sallyingforth Sun 26-May-13 18:40:44

Just tell him to fuck off.

JesusInTheCabbageVan Sun 26-May-13 18:55:59

shock

What an utter loon.

Lure the little rat through the fence, shave it bald and then send it back.

One of my dogs gets overexcited and barks quite a lot, but that is our issue and no-one else's. she will bark if the neighbours' kids play out on the cul de sac outside our house, and that is still my problem, not the neighbours'. I wouldn't dream of asking them to change their behaviour so as not to upset the dog. They come onto the drive or the front lawn to get their balls, and that is fine with us, even when it does make her bark.

We are working with her to try to stop her barking her stupid fool head off, and things are getting better, though we are nowhere near conquering the issue, but it is, and will remain our issue, not the neighbours' or their kids' issue.

Incidentally - does anyone have any advice on teaching her not to bark when excited?

Guide26 Sun 26-May-13 19:04:25

I have a very yappy dog, if given the chance she would be outside terrorising the neighbours as much as she can, we have of course said sorry to them and they often say they don't mind but still, shes my dog, shes causing a disturbance so shes my problem, I wouldn't dream of telling someone to go inside because of her, We have tried over and over to try and curb her barking but it doesnt work so she is kept inside a lot unless one of us is in the garden with her. You are not being unreasonable, tell him next time you'll report his dog for agressive barking towards your daughter if he wants to go down that route, they'll take your report a lot more serious than his!

digerd Sun 26-May-13 19:05:23

Agree he is bonkers. It is his responsibility to make sure that his dog is not an annoyance or danger to other people. Your DC is doing nothing that can be called cruelty to animals.

digerd Sun 26-May-13 19:05:56

ps
And neither are you.

Yanbu. I have two dogs, and there is no way I'd let them frighten anyone else in their own garden, let alone ask them to stay indoors. Bloke's living in fantasy land.

propertyNIGHTmareBEFOREXMAS Sun 26-May-13 19:22:39

Yanbu. The man is being a cock!

persimmon Sun 26-May-13 19:27:15

I'd be bloody livid if anyone made a tacit threat about their dog causing my family harm. A young girl was mauled to death not a month ago ffs. I'd actually call the police and report the incident so it gets logged.

Oh and YADNBU - he's a twat.

helenthemadex Sun 26-May-13 19:31:01

what an utter cock, report him!

Betrayedbutsurvived Sun 26-May-13 19:31:02

This guy is a complete cock, the RSPCA will laugh their bollox
off if he rings them and I'd seriously think about calling the police over his thinly veiled threats to set his dog on your DD if I were you.

siiiiiiiiigh Sun 26-May-13 19:55:47

roary1 can I ask you for some clarification?

(self obsessed thread hijack follows)

our neighbours across the road have an alsation (huge, daft, nervous, friendly, about 7yrs) and a Rhodesian ridgeback (huge, daft, nervous, growly, snappy, 1 year)

They let their dogs wander in the street, they DO now have a fence, but leave the gates open when they move the Porsche/range rover/mini cooper combo around.

They don't exercise the dogs enough, I have literally seen them being taken out for walks a handful of times. The ridgeback is snappy at ny kids - hasn't actually gone for them, but, I am wary of it.

I don't mind dogs - but, I REALLY don't like the ridgeback. They say "oh she's soft as a soft thing, really, she wouldn't go for them" whilst I think - your dog is growling at my 5 year old and I want you to discipline/train your dog, please. And, by the way, it's really unpleasant for you to let them out to shit in the street, even if it is accidental, and your stupid alasation just shat in my garden.

I like my neighbours. Apart from their cavalier dog ownership and Butterflies-esque posh car manoevering, they are very nice people.

But, I WOULD like to impress upon them that their ridgeback puppy needs a bit of training. In a helpful if your dog doesn't stop growling at my kid I'll kick to hurt it kind of way.

Any ideas?

(thread hijack over)

OP - your neighbour's a worry. I'd phone the RSPCA and put spikes along my fence. AND, I'd strike him off my Christmas card list and start having fragrant BBQs in the garden, even if it were raining.

SoleSource Sun 26-May-13 20:20:11

I hope i don't get flamed but

A) inform police
B) keep a diary ~ times, dates everything.
C) check fences each day incase he tampers with it...
D( do not retaliate yourself
E) do you know anybody to anonymously beat the crap out of him for threatening your child?
F) is he my ex neighbour reincarnated, who dropped dead

Thank fuck

Bakingtins Sun 26-May-13 21:21:06

Siiiigh - it's an offence to have a dog off lead on a public highway. To come under the rules of the dangerous dogs act they don't have to actually cause anyone harm, just a "reasonable person's" anxiety that they may do so. Phone the dog warden, they'll come and have a word. Or if you get on okay speak to them first and explain that the dogs being loose makes you anxious.

OP YANBU and your neighbour sounds like a loon with an unpleasant dog. I'd report him to the dog warden for causing a nuisance and to the police for threatening your daughter.

cathpip Sun 26-May-13 21:28:40

Invite my two round, they are really loud and ds will shout at the dog and tell it to shut up if it barks! The man is a knob smile

ArtexMonkey Sun 26-May-13 21:32:11

Ugh, I'd def ring the polis, what he said about it getting through the fence sounds horrible.

Mother2many Sun 26-May-13 22:04:34

YANBU...I would of laughed... Good on you for handling the barking in the first place!

I know down our street, there are 5 Mini Eskimo Pomeranian Mix/type dogs.. and the bark constantly. I can hear them 1/2 mile away! When the kids and I walk by, they go crazy. To the point one actually gnaws at the fence! Honestly act like rabid dogs! (even attacking each other!) She came out many times to see if we were "teasing" them... I said, we aren't bothering them at all..

So... Next time DD is outside, go out and play with her...kick a ball, have fun, laugh loud...ooopss, did I say that? lol

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