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Nick Ross on rape - warning you may feel the need to punch a wall

(485 Posts)
DuelingFanjo Sat 25-May-13 23:09:37

sorry it's a daily mail link.

I am full of rage, particularly his comments on aggravated rape. Wtf. Presumably he means that there are situations in which he will not be able to stop himself from raping someone because it is aggravated. This has made me so angry. Please they'll me he no longer works for the BBC. I truly hope he loses his career over this. How the hell are we supposed to educate people who think like this?

WuzzleMonkey Sat 25-May-13 23:20:50

And the point about rape victims not considering themselves rape victims!!!

That's because we live in a society where women's rights to keep their own bodies to themselves are consistently eroded, not because having sex without someone's consent isn't rape!

FFS!!

RiotsNotDiets Sat 25-May-13 23:22:32

Urgh

<bangs head on table>

Greythorne Sat 25-May-13 23:22:50

Is he well known to be hard of thinking?

Is he planning on becoming the quasi serious answer to Jeremy Clarkson?

WuzzleMonkey Sat 25-May-13 23:23:19

And the stuff about conviction rates!!! Well the conviction rate is low so the solution is not to report!

Wtaf do you think you are talking about Nick Ross, you massive, massive cunt.

I'm not even going to read it.

WuzzleMonkey Sat 25-May-13 23:23:53

(apols I didn't mean to call him a c*nt then)

RiotsNotDiets Sat 25-May-13 23:24:36

Yes Wuzzle, I mean really, how hard would it be to tell that someone just isn't in to it? If they're not actively participating and visibly enjoying themselves, any normal person would stop and check they were ok, no???

RiotsNotDiets Sat 25-May-13 23:25:12

What a stupid, stupid man

HoHoHoNoYouDont Sat 25-May-13 23:29:08

So basically 'we're asking for it'

If that's the case then he's asking to get punched in the face as he's aggravating me! Tosser.

squoosh Sat 25-May-13 23:33:08

I'm so shocked by this article. Actual open mouthed type shock.

Our forebears might be astonished at how safe women are today given what throughout history would have been regarded as incitement. Not even in the licentious days of Charles II in the 17th Century was it acceptable for women to dress as provocatively as they have done in Western culture since the 1960s.

Equally they would be baffled that girls are mostly unescorted, stay out late, often get profoundly drunk and sometimes openly kiss, grope or go to bed with one-night stands.

This man is a TV presenter, that is all, not a criminologist, how the fuck does he feel qualified to pass these judgements?

DuelingFanjo Sat 25-May-13 23:33:48

Wuzle, cunt was te first word I thought of and I very early put it into the title of this thread.

squoosh Sat 25-May-13 23:35:04

The assumption is that any woman who chooses not to pursue a claim is being let down by the State or is acting irrationally. But could it be that she is right? What if she feels partly responsible for what happened?

There are no words.

MaryMotherOfCheeses Sat 25-May-13 23:36:40

Women. They're all liars.

hmm

That's what he seems to be saying. What a vile article.

gordyslovesheep Sat 25-May-13 23:36:44

not just judged ...judged by 17th century standards - brilliant ...I love i when men try to edumacate me about rape ...said no woman ever

WuzzleMonkey Sat 25-May-13 23:40:21

"girls are mostly unescorted, stay out late"

whaaaaa? So we need to keep girls in glass boxes and under curfew. And if we don't and they get sexually assaulted, well it's not really a crime.

This man is insane.

Shakey1500 Sat 25-May-13 23:42:52

Wow.

Moxiegirl Sat 25-May-13 23:45:46

Wtf??!
Makes you wonder what he's done in his life doesn't it, to be so defensive.

jacks365 Sat 25-May-13 23:48:28

Maybe it's because I've been there but I do understand what he's saying. I was a victim of dv that included rape but this was my husband. It took me 14 years to admit even to myself that what he did was rape. All he is trying to point out is that things are not always black and white especially to those involved. Should I be made to feel like I'm letting the side down because my husband had me so twisted up that I thought I was being unreasonable.

He also comments about taking reasonable precautions, comparing it to leaving a laptop in view, you wouldn't do that just in case the wrong person was around so why not taken precautions with your own person. It doesn't mean everyone is going to attack you but you never know.

DesperatelySeekingSedatives Sat 25-May-13 23:48:47

hmm far as I know he only presented Crimewatch. He didnt solve the fucking crimes himself.

The fucking fail. between this article and the one where the "journalist" (use that term loosely) watched some child porn to write her article I wonder if the editor has a screw loose?! angry

DuelingFanjo Sat 25-May-13 23:49:14

What he is saying is that he could rape someone because he knows that women sometimes cause their own rape by their behaviour. So he is basically saying he could be in a situation where he has no choice but to rape because they will make him do it.

Insulting fuck.

Insulting to women, insulting to men.

I guess he thinks Jill Dando was asking for it too? Standing In front of her own front door like she was, asking for it. In broad daylight? Asking for it.

He is saying that women should just accept, expect to be raped because the are women and men can't help themselves.

HoHoHoNoYouDont Sat 25-May-13 23:51:49

Don't even start me on 'precautions'.

ravenAK Sat 25-May-13 23:52:23

Has anyone screen shotted it anywhere? I do try to avoid clicking on Daily Heil links...

DuelingFanjo Sat 25-May-13 23:53:01

'He also comments about taking reasonable precautions, comparing it to leaving a laptop in view, you wouldn't do that just in case the wrong person was around so why not taken precautions with your own person. It doesn't mean everyone is going to attack you but you never know.,

BEcause I am a person not a fucking laptop. In who's world does being a woman (yes I know men getvraped too but I am talking about me) mean that you should just accept that some fuck is going to come along and 'take' you because you are 'in view'? You are saying that vbut bbei in view I am making myself vulnerable to rape. Well fuck that. No one is ever go to convince me that 50% of the population should take extra precautions just because they have a vagina. How about the other 50% of the population just don't rape other people for fucks sake?

Terrorvision Sat 25-May-13 23:53:07

Yes, as a woman I am like a laptop. A piece a property, begging to be taken. Not a real PERSON, like a man. Tosser

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