IABVVVVU but I cringe inside when I see

(337 Posts)
AmataesAmataes Tue 21-May-13 14:14:56

Girls names with -Ella, -lily, -mae, -Rae, -lee or any variation

Following on from my name thread and a couple of threads I've seen about rochelle from the Saturdays new baby,I can't help but cringe when I see any of the above e.g. Gracie-Mae

I am being VVVV judgey pants but I find it so overdone, twee and chavvy.

I'm ready for my flaming!

squeakytoy Tue 21-May-13 14:16:48

It just makes me think of an american trailer park tbh...

OHforDUCKScake Tue 21-May-13 14:19:41

I cringe when I see may/mae/mai anything,

Its so common now.

Every girl round here is called something-May/Mae/mai

Lilly may, ellie may, etc etc etc

Think outside the box people, please!

Why chavvy? Whats with MNs obsession with the word 'chavvy'? I dont get it.

if you don't like it fair enough dont use it for your own children but judging children or the parents for their name choice is something I dont understand.

What about names like Moon Unit?

Pobblewhohasnotoes Tue 21-May-13 14:21:47

I'm fed up of hearing May/Mai/Mae as a middle name (I work with children). Every girl has it now, such a boring easy option!

OHforDUCKScake Tue 21-May-13 14:21:49

I have a son with a middle name incredible close to Moon Unit. Judge away grin

threesypeesy Tue 21-May-13 14:22:40

SPS me either it has no impact on anyones lives what others call their children, you may not like it or have chosen it yourself but really don't understand why its always classed as chavy etc....... bizarre if you ask me!

No judgement from me. I dont care what others call there names but Id like to know what people think names like Moon Unit and Apple are?

If Grace- Mae or anything similar is seen as chavvy then what about the random names?

Tabliope Tue 21-May-13 14:25:25

If DS had been a girl he would have had May as a middle name as born in the month of May but it wouldn't have been hyphenated and in fact wouldn't have been used at all or known about unless someone asked what the middle name was. They are pretty names but agree the hyphenation with those examples on the end have been overdone now.

Call their children** not names. This illness is affecting my posting grin

Tequilatequila Tue 21-May-13 14:26:02

It is really common. And mia's and leigh at the end of everything. It reminds me of the kind of parents that are always calling them princess ect. Yep it is snobby and judgy but i do agree. Pick something different..

phnarphnarphnar Tue 21-May-13 14:26:34

totally agree. It's just so.... boring

crashdoll Tue 21-May-13 14:26:47

I think they're ok names. I'd prefer Lily-May to something like; Margaret Harriet. I'd think the latter had parents who were too 'try hard'.

When dd was baptised, the priest said how lovely her middle name is, and makes such a change from may and rose - expect as her mn is grace he has now added that to his list of boring middle names!

I always feel sorry for the posters who will have names ending in stuff like this when these threads come up.

Would you start a "I cringe inside when I see people with ginger hair" or similar?

They can't help it, it's a name and they are stuck with it. All this "sounds chavvy" bollocks just makes the people saying it sound like stuck up snobs.

See I could write my sons full name here. I would be judged for the K in his first name and how its different. Then his middle names I will be judged for been boring, plain and having no imagination.

Cant win either way on here

badtime Tue 21-May-13 14:29:14

Moon Unit is fine, Moonie-Mae would be a poor choice.
I think.

Sunnysummer Tue 21-May-13 14:30:12

Isn't there a joke about this in the movie Ted?

SP Mines might as well be called Moon Unit with the middle name he has. wink

Sunny Is that when he mentions a load of names trying to guess the woman's name? Ends up been a name with Lynn on the end

SirBoobAlot Tue 21-May-13 14:31:56

I'm a -Maye. May was both my grandmother's middle names. I used to love my name... But it's freaking everywhere now. Thankfully my first name isn't popular at all grin

The 'Mai' spelling gets on my tits for some irrational reason.

C999875 Tue 21-May-13 14:31:58

It's up to the parent/s what they call their children. If someone would have told me to not call my child a certain name I'd have named her it out of spite. xx

Pobblewhohasnotoes Tue 21-May-13 14:31:58

Lily May is pretty but I'm bored of hearing it. Ellie May is even more common. It's like the default name for a girl along with Mia and Lexi.

Eskino Tue 21-May-13 14:31:59

Quite like Moon Unit, but didn't he (Frank Zappa's son) change his name himself to something a little more conventional?

It's place names as baby names that make me go hmm but oh well.

oldwomaninashoe Tue 21-May-13 14:32:10

So OP, what is your ideal and perfect girls name then????

KJ007 Tue 21-May-13 14:32:41

My DD's middle name is May because it was my grandmother's middle name, didn't realise this made her a chav but now I know I'll bin all her pretty clothes and head down to JD sports for a pink track suit

Be interesting to know what your kids names are OP....

GoodbyePorkPie Tue 21-May-13 14:33:07

I cringe at posts like this - such a British thing, to judge names. What is the obsession with class/'chavviness'? I don't get it.

My first name is apparently chavvy and common according to MN yet its a totally normal name. It makes no sense.

I dont like Ptolemy or Benedict though many MNetters seem to but I don't cringe on the inside at it.

VestandKnickers Tue 21-May-13 14:38:08

Totally agree with you OP, so no flaming from me!

May is a lovely name but I don't see why it needs to be bunged on the end of other prefectly good names.

OHforDUCKScake Tue 21-May-13 14:38:10

For me its not about how chavvy it is. Or even that its a bad name, may is lovely. But its just so over used. Do people have no imagination? Its like someone else said, its like a default name.

It honestly would not surprise me if 90% of the girls in reception in my sons school had a variation of the spelling of May in their name.

I always thought people saw their own child as totally unique, and yet they give them these names that every other child has.

And its not comparible to the emmas, sarahs and louises of the 80's because whilst they were popular, there were several different ones.

This is one name every other bugger wants to use.

and then insist it was their mothers, grandmothers and great grandmothers name

Dylanlovesbaez Tue 21-May-13 14:39:11

We chose may as dds middle name! It goes perfectly with her more unusual first name. It needed to be a one syllable name to sound right and we had various reasons for choosing it. Yes, there's lots of little girls with may for a middle name but its not really going to be used much, it's just for us (even though the annoying grandparents insist on calling her by her first name and middle name)

ShowOfHands Tue 21-May-13 14:39:25

I think it's fine. It's just an opinion. Reasonability doesn't come into it. We all make snap judgements on how people are dressed, what they are named, how they handle certain things. It's human nature. What marks us out as reasonable is how we manage our own behaviour and whether or not we let what we know are shallow assumptions affect our treatment of others.

People don't like the term chavvy no and probably because it's used in a pejorative way but it's just a possibly slightly lazy way of referring to names which are predominantly associated with a certain socioeconomic status. I'd make assumptions about a sibset named Ludmilla, Cressida and Ptolemy just as I would about Chantilly-Lace, Chardonnay-Blanche and Demi-Leigh. They're all just signposts and ultimately, people transcend their names.

I cringe when people syntactically appropriate things they like. For example "I like my chardonnay me" or "I love my happy hardhouse". Nothing reasonable or unreasonable about it. I just don't like the way it sounds and I expect to hear this sort of phrasing from certain people. It's merely the way my mind has catalogued it.

I don't think it's middle names the OP meant, but the double-barrel type, eg Amber-Lily or Elisha-May.

LucyBabs Tue 21-May-13 14:40:02

My dd (5) is called Lucy May... HOWEVER
We named her 5 years ago when no one had jumped on the bandwagon and she is named after my Late grandmother,not because its popular. I too get annoyed at all the lilly mae, Gracie Lou shite!!
I wish I could change my dds middle name now!

cory Tue 21-May-13 14:41:06

So at what point in history does somebody who was christened Gabriella or Michelle after their dead grandmother turn chavvy? And would it matter how old they are at the time when public opinion changes?

And back in the 70s, most of my friends' middles names were either Jane, Jayne, Ann or Anne, so not much variety then either.

Startail Tue 21-May-13 14:42:49

I'm fed up of Ellies, but that's because they are called Elsie and Eleanor and DD2 could use their full names instead of trying to confuse me.

Mind you she and her sister have fairly common names, so they probably confuse people to.

Themobstersknife Tue 21-May-13 14:44:14

Not this again. Yawn.
<off to hide baby names thread>

MikeLitoris Tue 21-May-13 14:45:37

I can play mn bingo with my dc names.

Ds is boring and there are 5 million trillion boys in his class with the same name. He is called 'first name'-B in school. Even his middle names fall into this boring category.

Dd has a name that starts with a K shock, sounds made up and has jaye as a middle name.

Dd2 has a name that about 99% of mnetters like. A normal name that is a classic but not in the top 50.

What does all that make me? One chavvy name does notba 'chav' make.

SP I don't use the name I was born with but apparently it's one of the most chavvy names there is according to MN.

To be fair, my Mum is a total chav (by anyones standards) but I haven't seen her in many years and have never really lived with her or known her. That name will still affect my job and education prospects though as people automatically assume I come from a chavvy family.

It's just a bloody name.

adverbial Tue 21-May-13 14:46:33

Lots of baby name threads today!

I don't care for those names, and with hyphens. Though they seem to be fairly commonplace now.

Fedupofdiets Tue 21-May-13 14:46:34

hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahah! My dd is Ella Mae! She is 10 though so it was chosen before it got very popular. Judge away op, I couldn't give a fuck!

And the reason I stopped using my birth name was actually the name threads on MN and many posters saying they would think twice about offering a job or education place to someone with my name.

It's madness.

Fedup Chav! grin Its a load of bollocks isn't it.

Schro My name rhymes with jelly. wink Extremely chavvy obviously

Fedupofdiets Tue 21-May-13 14:49:13

It's plain snobbery imho, but hey ho MN seems to be jut full of mums who think its fun to judge other mums - if that's what makes you roll then go for it!

PrincessScrumpy Tue 21-May-13 14:50:16

I always find it funny when names are seem as too try hard - if you like a name you like it. I do sometimes wonder what people think of my dcs names but then I think I'd only want to know if they were positive responses.
The double first names do sound rather like they come from American trailer parks to me but then i've accepted in a snob - discovered when I chose dcs school! smile

adverbial Tue 21-May-13 14:51:52

I don't cringe, though, OP. Far, far worse names around.

SP Mines was a made up spelling of a very famous perfume... wink

Bumpotato Tue 21-May-13 14:53:01

My daughter has Lee, no hypen, as a middle name, and so have I. She is a little lady and in no way chavvy pity the same can't be said for her mother

I can't get excited about baby names. Even the likes of Apple and Moses.

BenFranklinGates Tue 21-May-13 14:57:49

mike My DS1 has a name so common he gets the surname treatment too! He does have a really flowery middle name though.

DS2 6 has a common name with an unusual spelling, after an infamous Russian tyrant and he knows it. I love the looks on peoples faces when he tells them, we don't like it shortened either, just to make a point.

I can only surmise therefore that I must really confuse people, I dress like a chav for comfort and convenience (dirty job, stuff gets ruined) but my kids have really pretentious names. Our surname is quite long and posh sounding too!grin

SillyTilly123 Tue 21-May-13 14:59:56

My dd2 has May as a middle name, but it means something important to me. My lovely nana is called Amy and its an anagram of that, and dps mam is called Mavis so it is a part of them both.

polkadotsrock Tue 21-May-13 15:00:13

I have a hyphenated name- two boring names shoved together to make a (mildly) more interesting one. Though I go by my initials as they're catchy. I've no idea if my name would be considered chavvy but I know that using my initials is- it really bothers some people- which I delight in because its ridiculous!
In this instance I don't cringe at all but that is probably because I'm used to double barrelled names anyway.

badtime Tue 21-May-13 15:01:31

Eskino, Moon Unit is still called Moon Unit, but she (Frank Zappa's daughter) is usually known as 'Moon', as Unit is her middle name.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_Zappa

Perhaps you're thinking of Zowie Bowie, a.k.a. Duncan Jones (the film director)?

SillyTilly123 Tue 21-May-13 15:02:29

Dds name is not hyphenated though.

My mum's name is Grace, she's early fifties.

She likes to pretend all the baby Graces and Gracies are named after her.

KneeDeepInDaisies Tue 21-May-13 15:07:07

I don't cringe but I agree it is very overdone.

Some people I know make the school use the hyphenated name but at home don't bother. I think that's a bit oddgrin

FrancesFarmer Tue 21-May-13 15:09:53

I'm in agreement with the OP. I wish the fad for twee names and "creative" spelling would end.

offwithhishead Tue 21-May-13 15:12:27

Well I googled my daughters name yesterday, because I'm trying to find similar names as I'm expecting my third and someone had posted something about seeing MY children's names in our local paper and ridiculing them. People saying I shouldn't be allowed to name my own children and stuff. So your damned of you choose something different and your damned if you pick something everyone else has.
Reading this yesterday was abit upsetting and i don't even want to post there full names as il probably be slagged off so people should think before they say anything TOO nasty. But everyone has a right to dislike a name I dislike mine because its common and that's why I go for unusual names with my 2, but it's put me under pressure to find a unique name for #3!

D0oinMeCleanin Tue 21-May-13 15:12:32

Dd1 is X-rae, X being my uncles name, who died shortly before my 18th, dd1 was conceived shortly before my 21st, so it seemed right to give her a variant of his name.

Ray, is my Dad, my uncles closest friend, they were inseparable. Dd1's name is in memory of their close relationship.

If anyone dared to tell me to my face that her name was 'chavvy' I'd take it an invitation to act 'chavvy' and would chin them smile

OHforDUCKScake Tue 21-May-13 15:16:48

Sorry people but it was common 5 years ago too.

You had no imagination 5 years ago basically wink

One of my kids is in school with an Elle-Mai, pronounced Ellie-May hmm

The boring name and the hyphenation I could happily ignore but the mis-spelling/pronunciation of Elle makes me grit my teeth every time

catlady1 Tue 21-May-13 15:27:56

My DD's middle name is Lily (not hyphenated, a separate name). The only reason it isn't her first name is because it's so over-used. I agree that the "-May/Mae/Mai/Grace/Rose/etc" has been done to death, I don't think of it as chavvy or anything negative but it does make me want to roll my eyes a bit when I hear it. When I was a kid it was sort of the same with "-Jo" and "-Jane" but those were not nearly as popular as the equivalents are now.

80sMum Tue 21-May-13 15:30:39

It used to be Ann that was tacked onto other names. Names such as Mary-Ann, Sally-Ann, Kerry-Ann, Lucy-Ann etc. The Mae/May phase will soon give way to the next fad.
Anyone got any suggestions?

JerseySpud Tue 21-May-13 15:31:23

Oh well i have a Holly-Mae. Call me chavvy to your hearts content, we're the furthest from it. Mae is a family name to us.

FudgeyCookie Tue 21-May-13 15:32:34

I have an Evie-Mae, which mn seems to think is chavvy hmm which we definitely aren't. Never met an Evie-Mae before though, and she is named after two family members, even though the family member's registered name was spelt May, she changed it to Mae as she was fed up of having the same spelling as 3 other people she knew!

This thread is so mean

You just cant win. You get judged for been different and you get judged for using common names.

I couldn't give a flying nun what others call their children. Why would i? It doesn't affect me.

Messandmayhem Tue 21-May-13 15:38:57

I is got I have a hyphenated first name innit. I just use the first part. My kids don't, but apparently my DD has a common name (I hadn't met another child with her name until after she was born) and she and her brother are named after characters in a popular movie franchise which might be quite chavvy by mn standards.

My daughter has mai as a middle name, but in my defense it's short for Mavis, my maternal grandmother.

kelda Tue 21-May-13 15:41:24

grin at X-Rae

Oh and I didn't hyphenate it, so she's not Amalia-Mai which would be weird.

Chandon Tue 21-May-13 15:47:03

SPscliffing, who cares.

So what, you can't win. You are only judged by a few online saddos like OP who have nothing better to do than put people down, to make themselves feel better.

Ignore the boring snobbo's.

IMO it is very common to call people chav's wink

Eskino Tue 21-May-13 15:48:16

Ah Badtime, I was muddling Moon Unit with her brother, the even more wonderfully named Dweezil who actually legally changed his name from IAN to Dweezil as a child, out of choice. Presumably to fit in with the rest of his family grin

EggsMichelle Tue 21-May-13 15:48:39

I would have loved an X- Mai but sadly it is over used, so if I ever have a daughter she will just be X. I went to quite a "chavy" school and alot of girls I grew up with now have dd's with hyphen names, but I wouldn't say it was a chavy thing, more I making their dd's as girly as possible with a twee name.

"I couldn't give a flying nun what others call their children" grin

SP I've never heard that phrase before (flying nun), is it a chav thing? wink

Chandon I dont care. Just pointing out that they judge no matter what you do. Where's the OP gone anyway?

Schro It must be. It just felt right grin or should be it 'flying-nun'

LittleMissGerardButlerfan Tue 21-May-13 15:50:40

I'm not keen on hyphenated names but I don't think they are chavvy, it's just my personal choice.

My middle name is very common for people born in the late 70's early 80's but my first name is a bit more unusual.

One of my sons names is very common now, I picked it as its a nice name that was coming back in to popular names at the time, but now it's really common. I still like it though and am glad I chose it. My youngest son on the other hand has an unusual name but no one can pronounce it! It's welsh and spelt correctly, but we live in England! I love it when we go to Wales and I don't have to repeat it! I like it though because its a bit different, so I have the 2 extremes grin .

GoingUpInTheWorld Tue 21-May-13 15:51:54

My dd has a very unusual name. My mother hates it.

When i was pregnant, she told me she would buy me my pram if i called her Lydia instead! I stuck to my original name and ended up buying the pram myself! grin

If my mum is out with dd, and someone asks her name, my mum hesitates and says in a low voice what her name is!

Yesterday she took dd to the park and was trying to get her atttention by calling her name so dd would look at the camera, and apparently some woman was staring at my mum and she reckons it was because of the name she was shouting dd!!!

Dd is 7 months, so shes got years to cringe at her name! grin

Chandon Tue 21-May-13 15:52:58

Spscliffing... You are only judged by the very few, like, maybe about 3 people on MN.

Name snobbery threads are so revealing in a way.

Going grin Sounds like my dad. He wanted me to call him a 'normal' name. He started calling him something similar to my sons actual name. It annoyed me. He stopped when he found out the name my son has is in fact Irish. My dad is Irish so was suddenly pleased. Strange man grin

PickledLiver Tue 21-May-13 15:54:35

I kind of agree, but then I don't trust MN re:names. There's another thread on this very board where people are rejoicing in their love for the most bizarre names I have ever ever seen.

I think sometimes people forget that children grow up and that names like 'Archibald Bumfrey' or 'Tottie Jane' just sound shitter and shitter the older you get.

GoingUpInTheWorld Tue 21-May-13 15:55:15

Sps

Hahaha!

SP I'm actually not sure what way is correct, I think my brain has melted today! grin

forevergreek Tue 21-May-13 15:56:38

My name according to mumsnet:

First name : poncy
Second: old lady
Third: chavvy aka MAY
Last: foreign

I'm not sure I'm any of the above!

LittleMiss That's what its like when I take my son to Ireland. No one is surprised when they hear it.

Samu2 Tue 21-May-13 15:57:53

Meh I only judge stupid names like Sunlight or something.

When I named my daughter Evie it wasn't popular but now it is everywhere. I laugh when people think they are naming their child something really unique and they brag about it, chances are that name will soon become popular.

AmataesAmataes Tue 21-May-13 15:58:29

I'm going to come right out and say it.

Regardless of whether you ARE chavvy or not, if you name your child as mentioned, on paper MOST people will assume you are.

I'm not saying its right for the general public to judge, but it happens, the same as people will probably assume my children are stuck up snobs.

For those asking, I am due with DC1 in 4 weeks and will probably name Rupert James or Clara Jane, and yes we have a double barrelled surname hmm

Nieces and nephews are Henry, Cosette, Hugo and Arabella on one side and Dorothy, Lucinda, Matthew, Thomas and William on the other.

I also have cousins with children called klaydon, Kaleb, Malika and Wesley

IneedAsockamnesty Tue 21-May-13 15:58:49

Yabu and really rather, well not the sort of person I would invite to turn left from the gun room should you ever visit my house.

Forever Mine is:

First Name: Chavvy and common
Middle Name: Old lady/Common for age or due to first name.
Surname: A name mentioned on the 'Surnames I'd love to have' thread.

IneedAsockamnesty Tue 21-May-13 15:59:43

And MOST people won't think something like that, people like you will.

"Regardless of whether you ARE chavvy or not, if you name your child as mentioned, on paper MOST people will assume you are."

The shit thing about that is that you will automatically assume the child (or adult) is "chavvy" as well.

A name is just a name, lots of people choose on a whim and a lot of the time choose when they are quite young themselves. It bares no evidence to what that person is like in reality, you are basically just seeing a snippet from a very short period in their lives.

GoodbyePorkPie Tue 21-May-13 16:02:28

"Regardless of whether you ARE chavvy or not, if you name your child as mentioned, on paper MOST people will assume you are."

No, MOST people won't. Only snobs like you will.

Regardless of whether you ARE chavvy or not, if you name your child as mentioned, on paper MOST people will assume you are

^^ By that do you mean you will assume that? Not everyone judges people by their names or the parents for what they decided on.

Chandon Tue 21-May-13 16:03:49

Exactly Goodbyeporkie

GoodbyePorkPie Tue 21-May-13 16:06:02

Nieces and nephews are Henry, Cosette, Hugo and Arabella on one side and Dorothy, Lucinda, Matthew, Thomas and William on the other.

I also have cousins with children called klaydon, Kaleb, Malika and Wesley

Don't even know what your point is here. Are the first ones supposed to be 'chavvy' and the second lot 'posh?' or is it the other way around.

Goodbye No idea what she means either. I could randomly name some cousins of mine. Jed, Krista, Brooke, Gemma, Thomas, Harvey, Jake, Amy, Edward, Charlie, Luke and Freddie.

Cant decide on the chavvy ones though grin

GoodbyePorkPie Tue 21-May-13 16:11:40

Hopefully Amatae will be along to enlighten you soon grin.

D0oinMeCleanin Tue 21-May-13 16:18:19

At the risk of being very nasty is Cosette not some kind of sanitary/feminine hygiene product?

elliejjtiny Tue 21-May-13 16:23:37

I don't think the May/Mae/Mai thing is chavvy but it is popular, like Louise and Jane were in the 80's.

My name was unusual when I was little but now it's everywhere (I'm not really called Ellie). So I have the opposite of an old lady name.

AmataesAmataes Tue 21-May-13 16:27:25

I was illustrating the fact I have family members with both "posh" and chavvy names

GoodbyePorkPie Tue 21-May-13 16:29:14

So which are which? hmm

AmataesAmataes Tue 21-May-13 16:31:13

Are you seriously telling me you can't work that out? Or are you just pleading ignorance on the back of the moral high ground?

Themobstersknife Tue 21-May-13 16:31:36

I would rather have a child called Ellie-mae or similar than have a child who lacks class, believes it is ok to call people names, who judges people based on their name and calls people unimaginative / boring even when they explain the names they have given their child have very personal meaning to them.
<definitely hiding thread this time>

Fedupofdiets Tue 21-May-13 16:33:32

Rupert James? Fuck me are you Katr Middleton???!

Fedupofdiets Tue 21-May-13 16:33:57

Of course I meant 'Kate Middleton'

Fedupofdiets Tue 21-May-13 16:34:52

By the way you sound like a lovely person op, I'm sure you'll make a great mum blush

So you even call family 'chavvy' because of name choices?

You sound like a great person.

shewhowines Tue 21-May-13 16:37:04

I don't mind them as purely stand alone middle namess but I agree, I find it twee and irritating when you hear parents calling Ellie-May in the supermarket etc.
One word names please.

marciaoverstrand Tue 21-May-13 16:37:31

May is my dds middle name, its a family name in dhs family.
It wasn't common twenty four years ago, most people said she had two unusual names!
I'd better tell her never to mention it if askedsmile

shufflehopstep Tue 21-May-13 16:38:02

May is a family name for me and I want to use it for any future DDs I have. It is my sister's middle name. It appears loads in my family tree in my grandparents and older generations. I wonder if, 90 years ago, people thought it was common, as it seems to have been V popular.

SoggySummer Tue 21-May-13 16:39:51

My eldest DD almost 15 has May as one of her middle names - after my aunt May, who was a lovely aunt to me but sadly died of cancer 2 weeks before my DD was born.

When she was baby everyone seemed to be using Louise as a middle name.

Dont give a shit if anyone thinks its chavvy. She knows, I know and my family knows the sentiment behind her name.

Cringe away all you like - I agree May/Mae has become popular but that does not mean its a name without sentiment to everyone.

What names do you deem acceptable then??

GoodbyePorkPie Tue 21-May-13 16:40:18

SP she's calling her own family chavvy. Charming.

I've met people from all walks of life with those names, OP (except Klaydon). I don't think either 'posh' or 'chavvy' people can lay claim to them.

crashdoll Tue 21-May-13 16:46:17

"Regardless of whether you ARE chavvy or not, if you name your child as mentioned, on paper MOST people will assume you are."

Even if this were true, who gets to decide if names are chavvy or not?

landofsoapandglory Tue 21-May-13 16:49:48

My niece has an X-May name and she is 18, so they have been about for years. I remember liking Ellie-May when I was pregnant with DS1(18) but DH hated it, so he would have been Harriet Emily.

I think it says more about the person doing the judging than the one with the name TBH, but FWIW I have a hamster called Rupert it has made my week knowing he is not a chav!wink

Land I had a hamster called Bud. I'm worried he was one now! grin

landofsoapandglory Tue 21-May-13 16:58:27

As long as he only had the one name without a hyphen, SP he wasn't!grin

Weiser was his surname technically so no hyphen. grin

usualsuspect Tue 21-May-13 17:03:36

I cringe when I see snotty snobby threads like this.

Get the fuck over yourself.

HoneyDragon Tue 21-May-13 17:06:20

May hasn't suddenly become generic or common a a middle name, its been popular for years and years and is often a passed down name.

My dd has May as her middle name, as it pleased both sides of our family to do so. I know three other little girls with May as a second name, and all have it a a family inherited name.

I really have no concerns as being perceived as chavvy. Either on the Internet or in RL.

I think May is pretty. No, I personally don't like Gracie Lou but then I don't like Jago (or whatever the MN names are) but equally, I think Lily May is actually quite pretty. The name May is a pretty name (and I don't care about the spelling) and I don't understand why people get upset f a name is too popular, my son has a 'popular' name, who cares.

What I find weirdest is people saying 'yeah, my dd is Emma Mae (for example) and I named her before it became popular but now it's become so popular and I think it's really chavvy, and they're just jumping on the bandwagon.' I know some people like that. If you liked it then, I don't see why other people can't like it. I liked Joshua before it became especially common....I would still choose it now.

Fwiw, DS has a 'common name' and his middle name is Kasey (and guess why- all our other DCs have nice traditional Swedish names, but we liked Kasey so we went for it...it's about taste, not perceived divisions) and then a traditional Swedish name. I have a relative called Kayleigh, another called Rae-Anna and then a Susannah, Mia, Emmaleigh, Hannah, Synöve, Isabella, Annabelle, Isla, Marissa, Ingela, Clara and an Ellinor (that's a Swedish spelling, it's traditional). Who cared what they're called? I think less of people for judging a name than for having a name like -Rae or -Mae or whatever.

Although, saying that, I've met a little girl called Riley Mae. I don't mind the Mae but I see Riley as a boy name personally. But really, the little girl isn't bullied, she can be proud of a name with no bad connotations (I'd see differently of she was called Shit Mae or something) so I couldn't care less.

PaperSeagull Tue 21-May-13 17:30:53

My middle name is May, though not hyphenated. I love it, as it connects me to a beloved family member for whom I was named. Couldn't care less what others might think of it.

I'm not English, so I don't fully understand the English obsession with class. I mean, I understand it intellectually, its historical origins, etc. But on an emotional or instinctive level, it makes little sense to me.

I am curious about the child named after a Russian tyrant. I wonder what his name is. Stalin? Ivan-the-Terrible? smile

YoureAllABunchOfBastards Tue 21-May-13 17:36:09

1970s Mumsnet would have been alive with people complaining about everyone giving Louise, Jane or Elizabeth as middle names. Nearly every one of my female friends in their late 30s/early 40s has one of those.

My full name was mentioned in a PG Wodehouse book as being terribly common because it is a modernised spelling.

loopydoo Tue 21-May-13 17:38:49

DDs middle name is May (not hyphenated) as she was named after my great aunt and my husbands nan both of whom we liked very much.

Very judgy and snobby to comment on anybody's choice of name.....and a tad shallow. Why can't people just realise that childrens names are chosen because their parents actually like them???

AllYoursBabooshka Tue 21-May-13 17:40:50

The crux of this issue and what judgy people fail to see is, judging or commenting on a persons name is very "classless" in itself.

Anyone with an ounce of respectability wouldn't give a shiney shite dream of being so rude.

You may think you a being all superior but in actual fact anyone who would sit and think "Does this name sound chavvy" before naming their children sounds a bit desperate tbh.

Like a big Pleby-try-hard. smile

loopydoo Tue 21-May-13 17:41:36

Wonder what you would think about many Americans (especially women) who have male middle names, after family members, eg. Carolyn Michael followed by their surname??? It's a traditional thing and very personal.

Wuxiapian Tue 21-May-13 17:41:56

Hyphenated names are naff, IMO.

BanishedToPadua Tue 21-May-13 17:42:05

This is a nasty thread to start, OP.

I have 4 dd's with hyphenated names, the only time I've encountered negativity about them in on MN so I'm really not that fussed.

HintofBream Tue 21-May-13 17:48:46

Sorry to say I agree with Amataes. Whether or not you are actually chavy, you will be judged to be if you have a name generally deemed to be chavy. It is no use pretending otherwise, or claiming that only a very few people so judge, any more than claiming that tattoos are not judged reflects reality.

Hint What is 'chavvy' to you?

AllYoursBabooshka Tue 21-May-13 17:51:35

Judged by who though?

Probably the same people who drink wine they don't actually like because it's fancy.

Why should people give a fuck?

Wishiwasanheiress Tue 21-May-13 17:51:52

Has someone been nasty about your fave name? Trying to get own back?

Seriously. Boring. Thread. ALERT!

FamiliesShareGerms Tue 21-May-13 17:55:10

My daughter's middle name is May because one of my very favourite and closest relations was called May <shrug>

usualsuspect Tue 21-May-13 17:58:19

I'd be more embarrassed to hold opinions like the OP, than be deemed chavvy.

LoveBeingUpAt4InTheMorning Tue 21-May-13 17:58:35

Nice first post hmm

usualsuspect Tue 21-May-13 18:00:07

A little goady,don't you think?

loofet Tue 21-May-13 18:00:09

Went to school with a Georgia-Mae but back then it wasn't common at all, in fact it was almost 'posh' at least her parents wanted it to be, tsk tsk. Now 20something years on it's really common and pretty much anything common becomes tacky and chavvy.

My bug bearer is 'Mai'. I noticed that the Saturdays woman called hers Allaia (or something) Mai. Spelt like that it should be pronounced like Kai but I know they mean May and it just annoys me angry

HintofBream Tue 21-May-13 18:02:38

SP , well the names we have been discussing for a start.
Wish, if that was aimed at me, I am happy to tell you my own name is a beautiful old name, for which I have always been grateful to my parents. My DSs and DGCs similarly have excellent names which I am sure Amataes would admire and none has been mentioned on here. So sorry to disappoint you.

So your definition of a chav depends on the persons name or name choice?

GoodbyePorkPie Tue 21-May-13 18:05:36

"My DSs and DGCs similarly have excellent names which I am sure Amataes would admire"

grin Well thank Christ for that!

BornInACrossFireHurricane Tue 21-May-13 18:07:28

I posted ages ago under a different name and had many negative comments about my son's name (not top 100). Had mostly positive comments on my daughter's pretty name (top 20) but I imagine it is too popular now also! And as for my name... Well, it's pure 80's chav grin Oh, and I have a double barrell surname- that doesn't usually sit very well either!

HintofBream Tue 21-May-13 18:16:30

Yes, goodbye, I am pleased too. grin
SP, names are one of the factors by which people are judged, and, as I said above, whether they are actually chavy or not. Grumble as much as you want and whether you like it or not, that is what happens.

GoodbyePorkPie Tue 21-May-13 18:21:34

"SP, names are one of the factors by which people are judged, and, as I said above, whether they are actually chavy or not. Grumble as much as you want and whether you like it or not, that is what happens."

But by whom? Is this a British thing? Really does EVERYONE do it? Because where I'm from you just don't get this name judginess snobbery.

I dont know anyone who judges people just by their names so I have no clue as to who you are talking about

GoodbyePorkPie Tue 21-May-13 18:23:51

anyway, I lived in the UK for five years, never ever came across this in my circle of friends/acquaintances. So I think the people who judge think that everyone else judges. But in reality most of us just take people on face value.

DebsMorgan Tue 21-May-13 18:25:10

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

usualsuspect Tue 21-May-13 18:25:18

Anyone who judges someone on their name is a bit of an idiot imo.

carabos Tue 21-May-13 18:27:09

I think I've got this won. According to MN, my double-barrelled name isn't just "chavvy", its "pikey". I'm 50 next month and as far as I know my parents chose it because they liked it and wanted something a bit different (they were hippy-dippy back then in the 60s wink).

The only comments I get in RL re my name are that it's "pretty" and unusual. It's so unusual that on joining Facebook I was sent an invitation to join the worldwide group for people with my name.

Most of the time people call me by one or other of the "halves" of my name and these days, now I know that it's such a social handicap, I've started introducing myself with just the first half smile, to save the pearl clutching wink.

Fedupofdiets Tue 21-May-13 18:27:42

hint are you the op with a name change? I only ask because you seem to have the same shit attitude she has hmm

DebsMorgan Tue 21-May-13 18:32:36

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

everlong Tue 21-May-13 18:32:44

Cringe at Mae.

What an odd thing to cringe at.

HintofBream Tue 21-May-13 18:33:49

No, I am certainly not. Fedup. I have been Hint for ages and no name change. (Even if it is judged to be a chavy name) .

crashdoll Tue 21-May-13 18:35:16

I still don't know what constitutes a chavvy name, could someone please enlighten me? Given that names like; Lily and Ella were in the UK top 10 last year, I can only assume we have a chavepidemic going on. Or is it the hyphens that make a name chavvy? What a minefield!

Pigsmummy Tue 21-May-13 18:42:32

My 90 year old Gran mother is called Doris May, I chose to call to my daughter Emma May, The middle name May is in honour of this fantastic woman. How is this chavy?

crashdoll Tue 21-May-13 18:49:05

Pigs obviously Granny Doris was a chav of her time too! wink

Oswin Tue 21-May-13 18:54:07

My daughters name is Lylah Mai, am I a chav? Probably.

AmataesAmataes Tue 21-May-13 18:54:58

Can I just point out I didn't make the comment about anyone with the MIDDLE name may/mai/Mae I was talking about giving two names as a first name.

I am shock at Emmaleigh

AmataesAmataes Tue 21-May-13 18:55:56

Oswin your daughters name isn't hyphenated, Lylah is lovely smile

crashdoll Tue 21-May-13 19:04:15

It's alright everyone, random person on MN says it's not chavvy to call your daughter Lily May, only Lily-May. You can all go on peacefully with your day now...............smile

hurricanewyn Tue 21-May-13 19:04:37

There's a section for these types of threads - the baby name section.

My DD has Mae for a middle name. No family history, no connection, just thought the name was pretty.

Her full name was deemed worthy of 10 pages of pure vitriol over on baby names - chavvy, common, like every other little girl on the council estate, rough, larger swilling pitbull owning parents. All kinds of shite.

Please OP - when you're just musing on how a very common name makes you cringe, remember that if it's common a good many MNers will have used it & you're insulting us & telling us that our children, who had no say whatsoever in their naming, make you cringe.

bruffin Tue 21-May-13 19:08:52

Lucybabs
My dds middle name is May after my Mum and Grandmother. She is 15 and i didnt know quite how popular May was as a middle name. A lot of her friens have May as a middlename
5 years is not before the bandwagon, it has been very popular as a middle name long before that.and i suspect because it is a family name.

BatmanLovesVodkaAndCherryade Tue 21-May-13 19:11:28

I'm a Something-May, and I'm 34, so I was chavvy before any of your daughters. Ner ner grin

Batman You are the Queen of the chavs!

<Imagines the actual batman chaving it up>

hurricanewyn Tue 21-May-13 19:31:43

I would love to see actual batman (original Tv series Batman) chavving it up.

Or even better, hamming it up ala Made in Chelsea

Sokmonsta Tue 21-May-13 19:49:12

I wanted Emily-Raine. Dh vetoed it. Probably for the best really. We hyphenated her middles names instead as they flowed better. I know lots of lillie/Lilly/lily-may/maie/mai's. it's ok though. They're all unique!

mrstigs Tue 21-May-13 20:15:59

Im a x-may and I'm 30. My mum was obviously chavvy before her time. I also have one of the most common names given to girls in the 80s, so I'm common80sname-chavvy10sname. No hope for me at all. smile

BatmanLovesVodkaAndCherryade Tue 21-May-13 20:24:03

Oh, <actual> Batman as a chav would be fab!

" Holy Steak Bake Robin, The Riddler's nicked me Best of Jeremy Kyle DVD!"

D0oinMeCleanin Tue 21-May-13 20:25:21

Well, dd1 is hyphenated. I did not want to give her one important family name as a first name and another important family name to be relegated to being a middle name that is never used.

Her name has great meaning and sentiment behind it. Far more than bloody Rupert James.

And again, if people believe that makes me chavvy, well then I am chavvy enough to chin them.

How dare you tell me that naming my daughter after my gone to soon uncle and disabled father is fucking chavvy angry

Nagoo Tue 21-May-13 20:39:44

<points off thread>

LOOK! A TIGER!

And in other news I need a new kettle sad

MiaowTheCat Tue 21-May-13 20:42:53

DD1 has May as a middle name for various personal reasons. Doesn't make her a chav and if you said it did anywhere in our presence - you'd have me to deal with. DD2 also has a middle name that has been bashed as being overused, tired and overdone - sorry that my grandmother was so obliging in what she was called and it didn't pass muster.

I might think that some of the names applauded on the baby names forum thread scream out "pretentious try-hard wanker" but we chavs of chavdom were brought up with better manners than to start threads flaming you for choosing them.

As long as it's spelt correctly and isn't going to set the poor bairn up for a lifetime of pisstaking - back the hell out.

SoggySummer Tue 21-May-13 20:45:15

Pissing myself at the possibility in 10 years time Rupert James could be the new "chav name"!!!!

Imagine the shame OP.

Nagoo Was there any need for that?! I fell for it. You deserve not to have a kettle now

BatmanLovesVodkaAndCherryade Tue 21-May-13 21:02:22

Hahaha at the TIGER

Genius Nagoo

beautybox2 Tue 21-May-13 21:03:06

My girlie is Evie-Mae. I really dont care if its a common name now, me and DP chose it and we love it, it's not a competition for the unusual name if u like it go with it f**k what everyone else thinks smile wow people do think there above others on here makes me laugh really

Giggle78 Tue 21-May-13 21:12:37

Woah. I love the name Ella-Mae. I didn't know it was every where. I really thought I had made it up!!! And my grandmother was really called Daisy May LOL

Surely you have to go somewhere where there are lots of children to know whats become popular or not. And at the moment I don't.

My baby is due soon - how will I know if the name we will choose is chavvy, popular, over used, a default name? Suddenly I feel the fear coming on!!

SillyTilly123 Tue 21-May-13 21:32:03

Dp chose Emma-Leigh for dd3 but I said no way. (compromised on Emily eventhough im not keen as its too popular)

thecakeisalie Wed 22-May-13 08:33:08

When I was pregnant with DS1 for a girl I really liked Lilly or Evelyn so Evie and May as a middle name (because my Nanny's middle name was May and I miss her very much, she died when I was 17). While I was pregnant I realised these names were really popular which is why if we have a girl in the future I wouldn't use them as we prefer slightly unusual names. We then went on to have another boy and both our boys have unusual/less commonly heard first names and traditional/family middle names.

I guess my point is its personal preference and if you love the name then who cares what other people think. My ds1's first name is unusual over here but not in America, I get odd looks when people hear me shout his name and old ladies question it but we don't care because we adore his name and were proud of it.

People will judge you for something so be confident in your choices and ignore them.

SinisterBuggyMonth Wed 22-May-13 08:48:26

My middle name is May, after great grandma. My Aunt st family thought it was a double barrelled name and insists on calling me "Sinisterbuggymonth-May" everytime they seen me. My DM mum was too embarassed/lazy to tell them otherwise all those years ago, so its become and in-joke in my family.

xylem8 Wed 22-May-13 08:59:23

The classiest thing is having the confidence to choosie a name you like and stuff what everyone else thinks!

GibberTheMonkey Wed 22-May-13 09:08:27

If my ds1 had been a girl his middle name would have been mai pronounced mye. It's a perfectly respectable welsh girls name.
But then I wanted myfanwy for his forename which gets a bashing too

AllThatGlistens Wed 22-May-13 09:26:51

Breathtaking snobbery from the OP there, hardly a 'classy' trait to have hmm

My 7yo DD has May as her middle name, it's non hyphenated, she is named after a Great Aunt and often receives comments from people who think her name is pretty.

The whole post just came across as spiteful and judgemental, and it's statements like that that make me cringe, not whatever people decide to name their children hmm

Loulybelle Wed 22-May-13 09:33:39

I must confess if i have another daughter, i plan to call her Scarlett-Rose, i guess that makes me chavvy.

Jux Wed 22-May-13 09:55:46

Frank Zappa's son is called Dweezil and uses that name. DH has been to quite a few of his gigs, and bloody good he is too!

Pumpkinette Wed 22-May-13 11:15:46

I'm personally not a fan of hyphenated names. Nothing to do with chavyness (if that's even a word). DD's middle name should technically be hyphenated but it isn't. Even if i didn't mind hyphenated names, It would be strange to have a first name and a hyphenated middle name. I didn't want to make it two separate names at that would have messed up her initials. So her middle name is Maryjane after her two grandmothers. Does that count as chavy? Don't care if it does as we like it.

I'm also wondering if the chavy name thing is regional. All the Ellie-Mae's and Gracie-Mae's I've met are from quite middle class folks. The chavy names where I live are quite different.

DoctorRobert Wed 22-May-13 11:19:39

OP I agree. Overdone and chavvy.

It's the unusual spellings I can't stand though. If you want to call your child Lily May, just call her Lily May. Don't call her Lillee Mai or whatever.

Loulybelle Wed 22-May-13 11:24:57

My Niece is Ellie May, but not hyphenated, i think my sister and BIL, couldnt decide on what to call her.

pinkballetflats Wed 22-May-13 11:28:18

The sad thing is that certain names over time can become associated with certain stereotypes - and there are plenty of people on the world who are willing to make a snap decision about someone's personality/IQ/capabilities/values/beliefs etc. based simply on their name.

I remember reading an article about an experiment conducted in the states where people submitted their CV to jobs with various different names attached to exact CV including names that were often associated with certain population sub-sets and the results were interesting and saddening. I'll have to see if I can find it online...

valiumredhead Wed 22-May-13 11:51:38

Rupert, Rupert the bear, everyone knows his naaaaaame...

boschy Wed 22-May-13 12:14:23

I agree with DoctorRobert about the spellings. Nothing wrong with Evie, Lily, Daisy etc with May/Grace/whatever afterwards, just dont mess about with the spelling!

I have an unusual (posh sounding) first name; DD1 has a stripper's name apparently; and DD2's name is unusual but becoming more popular and doesnt seem to polarise opinions.

GibberTheMonkey Wed 22-May-13 12:19:10

Doctor Robert

Would you say to a German that Isaak was 'an unusual spelling'
Or to a Croat that Sebastijan was?

So please don't make out that Mai is a 'chavvy' name because at u usual spelling.
It may not be the English spelling but is a perfectly respectable name

GibberTheMonkey Wed 22-May-13 12:19:46

*because it's an...

MummytoMog Wed 22-May-13 12:23:47

HATE. My nieces have names that work that way. HATE. My nephews both have sensible names but with stupid spellings. One has a bizarre KH starting it, the other has a random smattering of vowels just lobbed in for fun.

My children have excessively dull names, but devoid of any piss taking possibility.

feelingfitter Wed 22-May-13 12:34:20

Chavleestika-graysea-maaaay

Might be in next years top ten?

Loulybelle Wed 22-May-13 12:55:20

I went for Phoebe for DD's name and she has a equal dull name, think the Queen.

Wannabestepfordwife Wed 22-May-13 13:41:09

I love the name may especially as a middle name but dp thought it was too old ladyish.

Names I don't like are after alcohol or drugs I just find it distasteful tbh

HellonHeels Wed 22-May-13 13:52:06

What names are there after alcohol or drugs?

Chardonnay I suppose for alcohol. Johnny Walker?

What about the drugs?

Wannabestepfordwife Wed 22-May-13 13:55:16

Tequila, sambucca and I've known of an amphetamine

My daughter is an Ellie Mae but not hyphenated and guess what I named her after my great aunt and she is the only Ellie Mae in her school so all you haters can just do one!

Name snobbery says more about the person moaning about it than the parent who gives the child the actual name imo

melika Wed 22-May-13 14:14:21

Why don't they reserrect the lovely name Ann (mine) back in the 60's it was overused but what a boring middle name.

And dd was also born in May and we thought it was fitting. Why on earth do I read these threads

50shadesofknackered Wed 22-May-13 14:18:48

What about May as a first name, would that still be considered chavvy. confused

Melika Ann needs to stay away! I was burdened with that middle name. Its not double barrelled but because of my first name they assume so

GlassofRose Wed 22-May-13 14:27:22

Every time I hear -may I think of The clampets.

VinegarDrinker Wed 22-May-13 14:29:51

Love these threads. Pmsl at my (double barelled) name somehow defining me as "chavvy". What a grim term anyway.

I think DS's name has been pronounced chavvy by MN too, and apparently all boys with his name are rude and badly behaved. hmm

I posted once on baby names about choosing between several girls names and got a load of scathing replies saying "well, they are all the most common names, so obviously I wouldn't dream of using any of them". They aren't the most common names round here, I can tell you, we don't all live in white middle class suburban/semi rural enclaves.

Vinegar Come join in the chavvy thread

Fedupofdiets Wed 22-May-13 15:54:22

Where's this chavvy thread?.....lead the way!! wink

Fedupofdiets Wed 22-May-13 15:54:58

Oh I see it's this one! Haha I'm a bimbo too blush

Its not this one. Its in AIBU. Cant miss it

Smartiepants79 Wed 22-May-13 16:08:41

I just do NOT understand the obsession with giving children 'unique' names.
My girls middle names are Ann and May - both family names that mean something to us.
Why(unless its a cultural thing) would you give a child a name that no one knows how to pronounce or spell?

tinpotted Wed 22-May-13 16:22:32

My middle name is May and I've always hated it and thought it was old ladyish too. Whenever someone found out it was May I'd get really embarrassed when they said 'oh that's a pretty name' as I thought they were doing it just to be kind.

Now I see that loads of people actually do like it so am feeling a bit more puffed up grin

I'm 39 by the way.

To the chav step with you tin grin

plainjaney Wed 22-May-13 16:26:04

I named my DD Eleanor many years before it came back into fashion and I did consider May. In the end OH said she would forever sound like a Clampett so I she became Eleanor Jane.

She's not called Ellie though, usually Eleanor or 'Belle'. I've had some looks when I've said Belle in the past though, I'll swear people think I named her after a Disney Princess hehe

lottieandmia Wed 22-May-13 16:37:37

I don't judge names - the most important thing is to find a name that suits a child, and that sometimes means using one that is in the top 100 names. For dd3 when I was pg I chose unusual names that just didn't fit her when she was born and the name I eventually chose was in the top 30 but it suited her which was most important to me.

lottieandmia Wed 22-May-13 16:39:08

When I was at school Louise and Jane seemed to be common middle names. There will always be trends.

thingamywotsita Wed 22-May-13 16:43:17

dd1 has a hyphenated name. ending in Mae. we didn't say, fuck it lets call her a default name. we liked it. and chose it. and I still like it. it isn't shortened its her full name. I am confused as to why my daughters name might make people grit their teeth or make them 'Fed up' I mean... really? get a grip. its a name, if it is actually making teeth itch I think you need a little bit of a reality check. someone else's kids name... shock horror... nothing to do with you! and you judging it reflects far more on your personality than their 'chavvy' choices.

My dd full name is Elinor. Its the welsh way of spelling Eleanor and we live in wales too but she's been Ellie since birth.
[shrug]

IndestructibleGirl Wed 22-May-13 16:50:28

If I'm lucky enough to have a daughter one day, I want to call her after my late mother who was the person I loved most in the world. The name is one of the flower names derided by the OP. I don't give a toss what you might think- but like me, some of the Lilys and Maes and Roses might have huge emotional implications for the parents choosing those names.

Tillyandjamie Wed 22-May-13 20:32:50

My family must be chavvy then!! Why does it matter what people want to call their children. ? And how does a name make somebody a chav?!

GlassofRose Thu 23-May-13 18:57:33

Indestructible... May or Mae as a name is not what the thread is about. more about names hyphenated with may added on the end.

If anybody chooses to call their child those names there is no problem... it's a light hearted thread I thought?

GibberTheMonkey Fri 24-May-13 12:25:17

Ghosts
I love the Elinor spelling. We have a lot of welsh names between us and Elinor Lyon is one of my favourite authors. Ds3 would have been elin though I was mulling on Elinor as its gorgeous

MiaowTheCat Fri 24-May-13 12:45:45

I'm almost tempted to have another child and call her May-Mae to piss people like the OP off.

Loulybelle Fri 24-May-13 12:47:46

Miaow, Mai-Mae, would be more annoying, and Rai-Rae, Lili-Lillie, etc.

miffybun73 Fri 24-May-13 13:03:58

Me too, it's just awful.

miffybun73 Fri 24-May-13 13:09:33

Can I add though that anyone who has chosen a hyphenated name like -Mae, -Rae, -Lee etc. has obviously done it because they like that particular name, not to impress others with their choice.

I chose my children's very popular names (Daniel and Emily) because I like them, not because of what anyone else thinks.

DownstairsMixUp Fri 24-May-13 13:14:10

I wouldn't say it was chavvy op. Maybe common like the middle name Louise was quite common in the 80's, I swear nearly everyone has Louise has a middle name that was born in the 80s (including me!!) I wouldn't assume anyone was chavvy for having a baby called Gracie-Mae. I do know someone with a gracie-mae actually, I just think it's a name that was popular at the time and they liked it, no big deal. According to MN my son has a name which means he will be a raving little shitbag when his in school.

My name according to mn first name would be "silly" as it's very uncommon as a girls name, middle name common!

peachypips Fri 24-May-13 13:40:54

My friend's mum is called Brenda May Knott.
Genuinely!!!

scortja Fri 24-May-13 13:47:32

I don't understand how it became so popular.. To me it sounds trashy but I must be missing something..

I tried to start a conversation about it but it didn't end well.. Its just the connotations of -May names are very negative for me but for A LOT of other people they aren't.. So what are they imagining that I missed out on?!

I have a Hollie Mae but it's her middle name, not a double barrelled name.

I think it's pretty and don't really care what randoms on the net think, no offence.

LineRunner Thu 04-Jul-13 16:25:30

The original Ellie May Clampett was funny, sweet and gorgeous.

Well you clearly care enough to post on a several-months-old thread about it HaveIGot wink

JerseySpud Thu 04-Jul-13 16:38:37

I have a Holly-Mae grin but we're as far from chavvy as you can get

whats4teamum Thu 04-Jul-13 16:50:35

I might cringe at a child named Rupert and assume his father was a spluttering buffoon wearing brightly coloured jumbo cords teamed with mustard socks and his mother was a pearl clutching frump shackled to an aga.

Or then again I might push these cruel and baseless presumptions about someone's background to one side and see what the little chap and his family are really like.

You never know they might be nice but if you can't get past someone's name you will never know.

You'd hate me OP. I am so chavvy that I even spell the hyphen.

GoodTouchBadTouch Thu 04-Jul-13 17:13:42

I agree OP. Whether you are chavvy or not, most people will think you are.

LOL at the people with really common baby names who "have never met another evie-mae" OK, but you mustve seen it tatooed on a skinheads neck?

themaltesecat Thu 04-Jul-13 17:30:17

Zombie thread.

I think slagging off kids' names is a bit off.

However, my SIL is going to give my still-embryonic niece a Star Trek-related name, and I've had to bite my tongue!

spotscotch Thu 04-Jul-13 17:40:14

I don't find it 'chavvy' but Christ on a bike if I see one more birth announcement on Facebook featuring the middle names rose or may (or Mae/mai for those trying to be 'different' hmm ) then I will scream. It's just sooo unoriginal. Yes they are pretty but for the love of God use a little imagination!

LookingForwardToMarch Thu 04-Jul-13 17:45:20

Totally agree!

It's just so common now ( I mean common as in there are so many!)

I inwardly cringe at every gracie-may, lily-rae etc.

spotscotch Thu 04-Jul-13 17:51:27

Also, everyone apparently seems to be using rose/May/Lily type names after grandparents. All the old ladies I know are called Maud/Doris/Shirley! Obviously that means nothing, but I always sort of wanted an old relative with a really pretty name!

I was bored and looking through some old topics - I have no shame.

I actually didn't look up how popular my daughters name was going to be. I went with something I thought was pretty and nice and suited the way she looked iyswim. I don't think giving a baby a name that is original or imaginative is necessarily what people do either. Most people who give names that are unique are slated for giving weird names, so nobody can ever win really.

I think it's ridiculous giving people a label by the way and pretty pathetic of fully grown adults. Sure you might think 'it's not what I'd call my children' and that's good. I'd never name my child Rupert or Maude but would never dream of critiquing someone for naming their child it, why should I?

It just bugs me as seems so Katie Hopkinsy of people.

SarahAndFuck Sat 06-Jul-13 00:03:15

Eskino I think Moon Unit was a girl. The son was Dweezle.

I wouldn't use but don't dislike the names ending in Mai/Lily/Ella but I met an Emma-Lily today and that did seem a little odd, like trying to say Emily and not being able to stop.

ConfuzzledMummy Sat 06-Jul-13 00:07:11

Hmm did any of you watch This Morning with Katie Hopkins? My daughters middle name is Mae and personally I don't give a fuck how "chavvy" it sounds, I love it!

SpooMoo Sat 06-Jul-13 00:10:57

Did This Morning get the idea for their Katie Hopkins discussion from this thread? [Hmm]

halcyondays Sat 06-Jul-13 09:23:43

I quite like some of those names, I haven't met all that many with hyphenated names.

MrsWolowitz Sat 06-Jul-13 09:28:29

I know an Evie Mae.

Lovely little girl, lovely parents. Not "chavvy" at all.

Judge away but that says more about you than the people you're judging IMO.

HesterShaw Sat 06-Jul-13 09:33:43

Judge away, OP, if it makes you happy. At least they are pretty names and in my opinion nicer than names such as Mildred, Elsie, Archie, Reginald and Beryl, which some parents think are cool, retro and totally out there hmm

We all have our preferences. Why knock them?

PeachActiviaMinge Sat 06-Jul-13 09:44:33

OP is obviously Katie Hopkins I.e an insufferable snib

PeachActiviaMinge Sat 06-Jul-13 09:45:45

*snob I'm just obviously too chavvy with my DDs -rose name to be able to spell sad

sweetsummerlove Sat 06-Jul-13 09:56:04

We almost -rose for our daughter but decided against it as we felt it was all becoming a bit chavvy in this area, so it is her middle name and reserved for when she is naughty! lol

I work in a school and I actually can't think of a single child with any of those endings.

I have in a previous job worked with a Summer Song and her sister Rainbow. They were lovely girls (probably in their mid to late teens now).

Dixiefish Sat 06-Jul-13 12:25:41

It's the peculiar spellings that get me too - eg there's a Jazzmynn in DD's ballet class. That poor kid is for ever going to be correcting the way people spell her name!

Pinkflipflop Sat 06-Jul-13 12:32:51

I cringe when I see idiots with nothing better to do than criticise other people's name choices.

Have a biscuit

TimeofChange Sat 06-Jul-13 13:31:00

This thread proves that the class divide is alive and well.

Some of you are obsessed with chavviness to a very unhealthy degree.

BlackStiltonBoots Sat 06-Jul-13 13:54:07

I can't muster the enthusiasm to care what other people call their children really OP, it's just a waste of energy. You must be uncomfortable all the time with your judgy pants wedged up your backside every time you hear or see certain names sad.

Loopylala7 Sat 06-Jul-13 14:01:40

Judge all you like, but I know lots of girls of my generation with a first or middle name with a variation of Anne (including me - had a house share with 5 of us and that's before I start with other friendship circles). I guess it's just what's in fashion at the time.

gotthemoononastick Sat 06-Jul-13 14:30:59

Even Alexandra or Etheldreda is (whispers) chavvie if continuously screamed across Tesco at a child.Was put off Amelie forever yesterday,mainly by this and terrible accent.

FeegleFion Sat 06-Jul-13 14:53:44

I thought I'd read this thread before.

I know a Gracie-Rae, an Evie-Rae, and a Lily-May.

All very lovely IMHO and none of my business even if I didn't.

It's a fashion of the time. I, too, grew up with lots of girls with names such as Leigh-Anne, Lee-Anne, Margaret-Ann, Tracey-Anne, Anne-Marie etcetera and mine own name is a double-barrelled, hyphenated name with Ann after the first.

Please leave children's names alone. It's distasteful to make such sweeping statements about those with names that you don't approve of being chavvy.

DD's middle name is May. She was named after her grandmother.

Guess we must be chavvy then.

TBF I don't give a shit what anyone else thinks. Her name is lovely, she is lovely and so was her grandmother.

comelywenchlywoo Sat 06-Jul-13 22:26:00

wish people would stop saying "it's rude to slag off children's names, and anyway, May is better than Archie".

not-that-DS's-name-is-Archie-oh-no

SplitHeadGirl Sat 06-Jul-13 22:31:36

My daughter is called Cadhla, an Irish name (I'm Irish) meaning a beauty that can only be expressed through poetry. So beautiful. It is pronounced Kyla, and I know certain idiotic people make judgements when they hear it.

FeegleFion Sat 06-Jul-13 22:33:34

Archie is a boss name! I know an awesomely cool little Archie dude grin

comelywenchlywoo Sun 07-Jul-13 20:27:48

Thanks FeegleFion you might be struck off MN for daring to say so! Our Archie is quite the dude himself. thanks

Cherriesarelovely Sun 07-Jul-13 20:39:17

My Dd has a name that some on MN say is going to be like a Sharon or Tracey type name in the future because it has become so common. I really don't care. I love her name. I teach children with all sorts of unusual names (and some that are less unusual) they are all lovely kids and their names make no difference at all.

kerala Sun 07-Jul-13 20:42:51

I think May is this generations Jane or Louise - over used middle name. Don't see anything chavvy about it just over used.

But I am getting weary of common names now. Eve, Ella, Grace, Lily, Oliver, Ben, Noah, Jacob, Isabel stop please these names are full! There are stacks of great names that are underused you don't have to veer towards Moon Unit or Apple etc am thinking John, Tess, Mary, Hester, Alex and so on.

southeastastra Sun 07-Jul-13 20:46:24

life really is too short to 'cringe' inside on what others call their children.

take the stick from out of your arse and find something else to worry about.

x

DMD2205 Sat 17-Aug-13 00:18:05

There are lots of people on these baby name threads who make assumptions. Mae isn't to be different in wales it's the correct spelling. I have to correct people all the time here because my daughter is a -May. She was born in may and its the month of the year that everything looks at its freshest green and full of life. The month full of hope for a beautiful summer. I work in the criminal justice system and have seen Jago tattooed on a couple of necks lately but on here people seem to love it. One thread was suggesting that -may type names could jeopardise their professional development without realising that this would only occur to you if judging people both on names and on professions, which is a bit shallow, is something you yourself do. Thus if this happens it will be those very people who will be responsible for such injustices. There was a bitter row about my daughter's name, Daisy-may some time ago that went on all evening and night and made me realise when i read it tonight that the people involved must not bath and read to their children because they wouldn't have had time to! But then I thought that it would be really uncharitable to make such an assumption on such little information!

My daughters middle name is Mae.

and her first name is spelt the none traditional way.

Boha, don't like it you know where the door is.

I think those who judge others on their choices for their children are pathetic and have no life of their own. Obviously they have nothing to worry about in their lives, otherwise it would be a none issue.

DMD2205 Sat 17-Aug-13 07:42:30

I think the toffs on toffs-net are peed off because the commoners have pinched some really pretty names lately, ones they can't ho ho ho scoff scoff at like they could at Chardonnay. May is a perfectly solid old fashioned name and baby girls have been being named after flowers and plants for hundreds of years. Is Iris Murdoch a chavvy name too?

Ilovemyself Sat 17-Aug-13 07:48:41

So everyone had a pop at Katie whatshername about her comments and now people are saying names are chavvy. Mmmmm. Double standards ?

OHforDUCKScake Sat 17-Aug-13 07:52:43

I thought this was a new thread, I read the third reply and thought OMG someone who finally agrees with me! Looked at the name of the poster to see who it was and it was me.

Ilovemyself Sat 17-Aug-13 07:57:47

OhFor. If that's the only one agreeing out of 270 posts what does that say lol. Just get over it. You like some names and don't like others. And - shock horror - others like the names you dislike and vice versa. Did anyone die because of it. No!

It's like people are saying their choice of name is superior to others.

SPBisResisting Sat 17-Aug-13 08:00:37

My daughter is called Cordelia-Mai

Sirzy Sat 17-Aug-13 08:11:52

I sometimes thing "that's a bit strange/oh another one" whilst saying "that's a nice name" but that is pretty much as far as my interest in other children's names goes.

I do think some children will hate the fact that they have been given a "unique" name or spelling of a name as they get older. But then DS might hate the fact he has been given a pretty common name.

SPBisResisting Sat 17-Aug-13 08:27:08

My (late 70s-born) DH is called Daniel. He hates it for being so popular. I love it and would have loved to call DS it.
DD not called Cordelia-Mai btw grin

dementedma Sat 17-Aug-13 09:26:36

I have a Rosie and an Ellie. I was waaaay ahead of my time though as they are both in their 20s grin
<trailblazer emoticon>

Parmarella Sat 17-Aug-13 09:33:24

I think it is only the lower middle classes who are obsessed with "chavviness" to differentiate themselves.

Must be the same people who think eating humous and going to Waitrose makes someone middleclass.

I know an Ellen-May and think it sounds nice smile

thegreylady Sat 17-Aug-13 09:40:10

Mai is French for the month of May. My dd liked May as a first name for dc1 however he is a boy :-)

OHforDUCKScake Sat 17-Aug-13 09:44:12

ilovemyself my most recent post on here was in complete jest. And you clearly did not read any of the thread if you think not one person on here agreed with me. You must not have even read the OP?

<pats ilovsmyself on the head>

TiggyD Sat 17-Aug-13 10:25:51

BAN THE HYPHEN! In names that is.

And have standard spellings.

feelingvunerable Sat 17-Aug-13 11:38:03

I don't really care.

But this May lark is very old hat.

My friend used May as a middle name 18 years ago.

Surely it's time for a change.

June anyone?

SamuelAndOscarsMummy Sat 17-Aug-13 12:25:52

I just wouldn't want my children to have names that would cause them to be picked on at school. I don't want my children standing out for their name, I want them to be remembered for things like their personality or achievements & interests! Therefore both my boys have very 'normal' names and I am glad about that.

I don't thing the name Lily-Mae is chavvy, I think it is pretty. I wouldn't choose it for my child simply because I already have a name picked out if I ever have a girl (Jasmine Ava).

At least you admit you are being a bit unreasonable, would much rather be a nice chav than a bitchy judgemental 'non-chav' (not saying that is what you are but lots of people who get all snippy about names can come across like this)

Ha just realised I posted twice.

[Well three times, if you include my response to another poster].

Thought it was a new whiny thread! Oops.

Pinkpinot Sat 17-Aug-13 12:42:12

My Gran's name was May
Not chavvy for us

FreudiansSlipper Sat 17-Aug-13 13:18:23

I think anyone using the word chavvy especially when directed at children is a twat

Shrugged Sat 17-Aug-13 14:18:05

Genuine question to those with a Mae or Mai, -Mai or -Mae who called their daughters after a relative - was that relative called 'May', or was she actually called Mai or Mae? The latter two spellings now seem far more used than May, but I would have said that the 'May' spelling was far more likely in the past...?

DMD2205 Mon 19-Aug-13 10:12:22

MAI is not modern it's ancient. It's just Welsh for May. If you live in wales it's MAY that's unusual. I don't get why people are reacting strongly to it being overused or spelt correctly for the country you live in. My son is called Thomas and no one on net mums seems to think that's been " done to death" even though it has, for about two thousand years. My middle name is June, but my daughter was not born in June she was born in may. May is about freshness newness and beauty and I think it'll be around for a while longer despite a gaggle of net mums getting increasingly desperate to find a pretty name for a girl that doesn't get pinched by us poor people.

oakmouse Wed 28-Aug-13 09:56:43

Well I think May is a fresh, pretty name and I like Mae West and her sassy attitude. I don't get it about hyphenated names being too popular, I only know one Ellie-Mae, which I thought was cute and American-retro, and a -Leigh, who is a sweetie and makes her name look lovely. I think made up spellings are fun and some of the most admirable inspiring people I've met are "chavs" so I'd be proud to be mistaken for one of them. I think the world would be very boring if people stuck to the same taste in names and any name becomes appealing attached to a cute child or impressive adult.

Standardised spellings haven't been around forever, names have different connotations in different cultures and times. I live in a very multicultural, ethnically and economically diverse area and the amazing variety of names is a never-ending source of pleasure to me.

But then, I'm easy pleased, me grin

vladthedisorganised Wed 28-Aug-13 10:19:59

I read a lot about how a child's name determines its future path in life, so we called DD President just to make sure. It's gender-neutral too grin

ViviDeBeauvoir Wed 28-Aug-13 10:30:45

I cringe inside when I see another thread started needlessly to criticise the name choices of other parents.
It also makes me <yawn>

YANBU to have an opinion.
YABU to start another pointless thread about it.

The use of the word 'chavvy' (often misspelled 'chavy') also makes me cringe because it usually indicates a limited vocabulary.

MaidOfStars Wed 28-Aug-13 11:29:24

My maternal grandmother was called May. A fair number of female second cousins on that side have May as a middle name, or hyphenated with their first. It's more a meme than a name in our family and serves as a far better family identifier than our collection of surnames.

My paternal grandmother was called Lille, or Lily as a diminutive.

Both were wonderful women, strong, kind, generous, spirited. It would be an honour to have a daughter of mine bear their names and I've always known it would be so. If that makes you cringe, I'm sure I'll get over it.

DizzyZebra Wed 28-Aug-13 12:16:50

I'm not a fan - But for some reason only in babies. A friend has an older daughter called Ellie-Mae and that doesn't bother me.

Rowgtfc72 Thu 29-Aug-13 14:48:00

DD is Lucy May. Again, May after both great grandmas. I have had to correct people who call her Lucy-May. Its Lucy. Not because its chavvy but she only has one first name.

Mae was my great aunts name and its now dd2s middle name.

I didnt choose it because it was fashionable but because it's a family name and dd2 is a may baby too so it seemed fitting. She's six now and not many had mae in their names where I live

She is also an Elinor Mae. Ellie for short. Its not hyphenated although people try to

Enb76 Thu 29-Aug-13 17:59:51

It may have been mentioned elsewhere in the thread but the name you give your child impacts on job prospects. It shouldn't but it does. We do live in a world where names matter. If you are deemed to have a name from lower down the socio-economic scale then you are less likely to be invited to interview than if you have a name which is viewed as higher status. It's been studied. Made-up spelling fares badly as do hyphenated names and entirely made-up names. Thankfully, there's always deed poll.

Elinor isn't a made up name. It's welsh!

MaidOfStars Thu 29-Aug-13 22:03:53

Enb76 If you are deemed to have a name from lower down the socio-economic scale then you are less likely to be invited to interview than if you have a name which is viewed as higher status. It's been studied.

Exactly why all job applications should be anonymised - to prevent exactly that kind of unfair and unjustified prejudice. I haven't seen a name, an age, a gender or a nationality on a job application for a while now.

justmyview Thu 29-Aug-13 22:11:39

MaidOfStars - I think this depends hugely on the field you work in. In my field, it's cvs with your real name & the interviewer phones his golf club buddy to find out about you. No chance of anonymity

lagertops Sat 31-Aug-13 18:17:46

I think its a matter of taste. I don't personally like the names the OP refers to, and agree that they're overused. Just as I'm sure some other mums might not like my son's name.

The OP definitely has a point about people associating said names with class. Again, depends what your tastes are. Maybe you've seen 5 'chavvy' mums yell the name Ellie-Mae that week. You can't help your perception. I've been told that I come across as quiet/ nerdy/ boring when people first meet me. I'm not offended. It's human nature to judge. I wish people would stop being so bloody precious. Is it so bad to have an opinion? A feeling that certain names evoke different imagery? It's not like common people don't exist, just as hoity-toity people do. Of course, you're not going to be 100% right in the day-to-day judgements you make, but fuck right off if you're going to act holier-than-thou in the sense that you 'don't judge.' EVERYONE judges on little things, whether they care to admit it or not.
You see someone with a weed leaf tattoo on their neck, a can of Special Brew in one hand, swearing at every passer-by in the street, and you don't judge, right?

God some of your lives must be so boring if this is the kind of shit that makes you 'cringe'. I have an Ellie May-not hyphenated- and we picked it because it's a beautiful name to us and the May part of it has family meaning that I shouldn't feel the need to explain because of some jumped up old snob with nothing better to do than start a ridiculous thread like this.
Plenty of 'upper' class have double barrel surnames and that's just the way it is so why would it bother anybody if someone has a hyphenated first name. Who makes you the queen of class?

I'm so glad my life is more exciting than this!

LolaCrayola Sat 31-Aug-13 19:53:30

My favourite variation that I've seen is Maisy-May. Love it!

MammaTJ Sat 31-Aug-13 19:58:28

So, not many weeks ago we were slagging off a certain someone for judging people for calling their children Tyler and after place names because the stupid bint missed the geography lesson about India and now the OP comes on here to judge names people give their children.

hmm

lagertops Sat 31-Aug-13 20:13:02

kkfairybrains Yeah, your life is so exciting you're commenting on a thread about something that only affects people who lead boring lives. Take it that you were rock-climbing in the Grand Canyon with the wind in your hair when you posted?

Portofino Sat 31-Aug-13 20:19:50

You sound nice Op! I fail to see why anyone should give a shit, unless they are a complete snob.

everlong Sat 31-Aug-13 20:26:19

Why does this thread keep being dragged up?

Piss off lagertops. It's an absolutely rude and ridiculous thread to start and I posted to defend names like my daughters.
It says more about the people that start threads like this and ridicule other people's children's names that are perfectly fine, than it does about people who choose the names.

lagertops Sat 31-Aug-13 22:18:01

kkfairybrains why do you feel the need to defend your daughter's name? I'm sure that you love her name (otherwise you wouldn't have chosen it), so why does anyone elses opinion matter so much if you have better things to be doing? Because that is all it is, an opinion! Someone might say the name 'Eugene' is a nerdy name. So what. About 20 people have said they don't like my sons name. I don't take it personally. One man's treasure is another man's trash, so to speak.

jessieagain Sat 31-Aug-13 22:33:32

I think a lot of people have a great grandmother or grandmother called May. My great grandmother was one too!

Alisvolatpropiis Sun 01-Sep-13 00:05:07

Eskimo

Moon Unit Zappa is a she and generally goes by Moon. Zappa's son Dweasel (sp?) also kept that name and does a fabulous Zappa tribute act. There's another son but I don't know his name, I think he changed it whatever it was to start with. He was married to Selma Blair for a bit.

OP - I don't like this style of name. In part because I find hyphenated first names utterly pointless, everybody drops the second name by the time the child is about 5 with the exception of the parents. Plus it's always the same names being stuck in second place.

For women my around my age Sarah-Louise is wildly overdone. Slightly older and it's Sally-Anne.

Now it's Ellie-May/Lily-May.

These names aren't unpleasant by any means but they are really overdone.

Alisvolatpropiis Sun 01-Sep-13 00:07:22

I find the amount of people with grandmothers (or great grandmothers) called May amazing. I've never met anyone called May in my life old or young, nor are there any in my family tree!

OnTheBottomWithAWomensWeekly Sun 01-Sep-13 00:12:21

What I don't get is all the "ooh, don't judge, you're so mean/rude/snobby/etc"...such liars! You judge too, just maybe not about this, or you don't admit it. you're no saints! don't pretend you're all clean on this.

And if you think the whole world doesn't judge names, you're incredibly naive. maybe its not fair, but its reality. The CV of Candi-Mai will go in the bin while Louise Marie won't.

HoneyDragon Sun 01-Sep-13 00:14:20

Well, if you've not met any than its official they don't exist grin

Alisvolatpropiis Sun 01-Sep-13 00:14:57

To be honest worse than any normal hyphenated name I find it very upsetting that respectively 3 girls each were registered as

Daisy-
Summer-

in 2012 according to the latest ONS list. I meant - wtf is that about?!

ExcuseTypos Sun 01-Sep-13 09:17:03

Well I know a 17 year old Ella May so its not a recent ' chavy' thing. She's working towards going to Oxbridge so I doubt her name will hold her back.

My actual surname was May. People assumed it was a hyphenated name and called me MyName-May until I'd ask why they were addressing me by my surname in casual conversation confused

Used to drive me batty.

elQuintoConyo Sun 01-Sep-13 09:31:20

Overdone - maybe.
Twee and chavvy - get a life.

hogwartsismyhome Sun 01-Sep-13 09:52:18

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Bluestocking Sun 01-Sep-13 10:51:33

Ahem. If so many people have beloved older relatives called May, why does no-one use it as a first name? It is a pretty name, but a bit overdone as a middle name.

manicinsomniac Sun 01-Sep-13 22:24:44

Rose, May and Grace are the Louise, Jane and Marie of the last generations middle names. All 6 are nice enough names and I don't think they indicate any particular class. They're all just popular at the time.

My double barrelled name hasn't stopped me getting a degree from a posh uni or a good job. I hate it because it's a mouthful (Rebecca-Jane) but nobody's ever been snobby about it despite it being rather an Ellie-Rose/Lucy-May/Emily-Grace of the 80s.

Common, yes. Lower class, I don't think so.

megsmouse Mon 02-Sep-13 00:16:14

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

LeoandBoosmum Mon 02-Sep-13 00:19:02

I'm generally not a fan of two names as a first name.

MaidOfStars Mon 02-Sep-13 08:59:38

Bluestocking Ahem. If so many people have beloved older relatives called May, why does no-one use it as a first name?

As a single syllable, I suspect it scans more naturally as the second of two names.

I am also surprised at those who don't know any Mays. It's used not only a name in its own right but also as a diminutive of Mary/Margaret. I know several, although that might be skewed by an Irish branch of the family, where I think it's more common a name anyway.

DrCoconut Mon 02-Sep-13 10:30:16

My aunt was called Florence May. She was born in the 1920's.

Chocolatehunter Mon 02-Sep-13 10:43:12

My nan was called Lily-May, although she hated being addressed by her full name so everyone called her Lil.

absentmindeddooooodles Mon 02-Sep-13 11:39:16

Where I am lilly-mae especially is very very common. Not in a horrid way I just mean I know alot of childeren with that name or variations of. I think its a pretty name. Nothing wrong with it at all.

Some people I around here do judge this kind of name. Not saying thats right in the slightest. Personally I think each to their own and it should have nothing to do with anyone else.

As long as a childs name is not something ridiculous that they will be bullied for, then I see no problem whatsoever.

It seems every name on mumsnet comes up with some opposition. My ds is jude. I was met with quite alot of nasty comments about how I would be setting him up to bw bullied by giving him a girls name. Also had comments about it being both chavvy and stuck up! I love his name and think it auits him. Thats good enough for me.

kennyp Sun 15-Sep-13 21:27:30

I don't think it's chavvy - lots of smalls at the school where I work are -mae or -may. I think it's quite sweet really.

if I had another one I would call her April-May. Woo hoo. an actual calendar girl ....

OldCatLady Sun 23-Feb-14 22:22:32

Hmmmm....I must be a chav then....I named my daughter Daisy May (no hyphen) but she's 23 now, so way before this 'trend'. People have always commented on how pretty it is.

Flowers and months are tradition in my family...my name is primrose (always just rose) my sister is Holly May, our mother is April Rose, her sisters are Daisy and Iris, my cousin is jasmine, and my grandmother June Marguerite (French for daisy). I think they're all very pretty....we must be trailer trash :D

Note....I actually come from a very 'respectable' family, we're not chavs!

deakymom Sun 23-Feb-14 22:25:38

may was my nans name i thought it was too old fashioned blush

Coconutty Sun 23-Feb-14 22:26:32

Zombieeeeee thread.

6cats3gingerkittens Mon 24-Feb-14 00:00:43

I have much to be grateful for, there was a Tryphena Iphiginia on my fathers side.

Mushypeasandchipstogo Mon 24-Feb-14 07:56:15

Totally agree with you OP. Fed up with those awful girls' names. Just wondering what the equivalent boys' names are?

thegreylady Mon 24-Feb-14 08:00:42

Cowers from ZOMBIE invasion.........

glastocat Mon 24-Feb-14 08:15:13

Im not keen on May, but only because my Auntie May is a right old trout. grin

LouiseSmith Mon 24-Feb-14 08:19:43

Looks like Katie Hopkins has a mumsnet account smile lol.

My son has 2 children in his family with something-Mae, I wouldn't choose it my self. But like the something-Louise craze from when I was born (cheers mum) give it 20 years and it will hardly be heard. X

poopadoop Mon 24-Feb-14 08:36:49

What terrible snobs you all are. Only in the UK would you get such a thread! Would you say a particular name sounded 'a bit black'? Well you're using the same logic, but in relation to class. All this 'we're not chavs, we've a posh last name'. Unreal

aGirlDownUnder1 Mon 24-Feb-14 11:00:20

I must be a chav then because my DD name is Gracie and she was born in '99 and this was in NZ and her middle name is Anne, after MiL. Which was very overused then. I'm a chav and proud!

BuzzardBird Mon 24-Feb-14 11:05:53

'May' I say that this is a zombie thread and there 'may' be a lot more 'mai/mae/mays' out there now, in fact we 'may' be over-run with them.

<looks forward to May>

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