These Parents were as useful as a chocolate teapot (MacDonalds related)

(62 Posts)
pigletmania Sat 18-May-13 14:08:27

Went to MacDonalds with dd 6, she has ASD and developmental delay. We went sit down with our food, behind where I was sitting was a mini football pitch set up in lights where a very rowdy group of boys (7/8 years mabey) were pretending to play and shouting and cheering and knocking against my chair.

They must have been in a group tat one boys parents have taken out after football, they were all dressed in football gear of their local club. The host parents did nothing to tell the boys to be quiet and tone down their noise and behaviour. The parents got the boys ice cream and because one was messing about his ice cream spilt everywhere behind me. The parents did not tell this boy off, they said never mind the lady will clean it up and will get you another one shock. my dd was behaving much better, sitting quietly eating.

I eventually told them to be quiet after my chair was bashed for the umpteenth time and the screeching got louder, the parent came to apologise but te screeching and shouting still carried on. We eat up and left. My patience was in tatters, but dd was very calm

Aibu to think the parents should have told the boys to quieten down and to stop messing about, and to not get te boy who spilt his ice cream another for messing about, even if teir not the boys parents. I would no have any qualms about telling a child in my care off if they were misbehaving and being a nuscience

CloudsAndTrees Sat 18-May-13 14:13:35

It might have been a birthday party or special treat for some reason.

I would have told them they needed to stop bumping into your chair if there was nowhere else for you to sit, but if you had other options of places to sit then I would think it's your own choice that put you in that position.

If the 'restaurant' has set up a facility for football inside, then you have to expect it to be used. It's McDonald's, I don't think you can expect children not to play in that type of establishment.

BackforGood Sat 18-May-13 14:15:15

I think everyone has different tolerence for noise, but, if I were looking for a calm, quiet place to eat and chat, then I wouldn't choose a McDs on a Saturday lunchtime.

I don't really understand what you mean by the "mini football pitch set up in lights" to be able to comment if what they were doing was reasonable or not. Sorry.

Remotecontrolduck Sat 18-May-13 14:15:38

I really want a McFlurry now...

<not helpful>

<gets in car>

pigletmania Sat 18-May-13 14:27:23

No, no other seats available. Dd loves MacDonalds nowhere else, it's a Saturday ritual. It wa an image f a football pitch in lights. But surly as parents you expect better behaviour from older children, if they were screeching and shouting very loudly you would tell them to tone t down in a public place where role are eating.

pigletmania Sat 18-May-13 14:29:36

We're people are eating sorry. I certainly would not allow that behaviour from my children. Might have been a birthday treat not a oarty as ts a wall MacDonalds so so party facility.

LadyBeagleEyes Sat 18-May-13 14:30:30

It's Macdonalds on a Saturday afternoon.
What do you expect?

Your daughter has ASD and you don't consider that one or more of the offending children might also have had special needs of some sort?

If you were that offended, why didn't you speak to the children or the adults? I hope I would have done so. A calm, smiling, polite "Could you please ask the boys to calm down a bit? I can see they're excited and having a lovely time but I'm afraid they're really disturbing us" would be responded to positively by anyone remotely reasonable.

I'm just back from Saturday lunch at McDonald's. It is definitely not an environment for those who can't tolerate or cope with noise and bustle.

CloudsAndTrees Sat 18-May-13 14:34:06

Tbh, if I took my 7yo boy to an area that was designed to be played in, no I wouldn't tell them to tone it down. I would expect them not to bump your chair though, and if they didn't do that then they would be made to sit down.

A place like McDonalds focuses much of it's marketing on children, therefore I expect it to be a place where children are allowed to behave like children. I don't think cheering is misbehaving or being a nuisance in a place like that, and I'm actually quite a strict parent!

pigletmania Sat 18-May-13 14:40:15

Horry I don't think they had special needs no, just loud raucous boys. So iam being unreasonable for expecting Chidren to behave a bit better in public. As kids we sometimes went to MacDonalds and would not behave lik that. Itwasent a play area, but light projected football pitch. But hey ho what would expect

swooosh Sat 18-May-13 14:43:28

Excuse me if this is rude but what has your DDs ASD got to do with this problem? She behaved well and ignored the problem, it was probably a kids birthday party and it is Mcdonalds on a SATURDAY!

Sirzy Sat 18-May-13 14:43:40

why would they have a light projected football pitch for any reason other than people to play in though?

I can see why you were a bit annoyed but really you were being unreasonable as I would have been in the same situation

greenfolder Sat 18-May-13 14:45:35

macdonalds full stop- you put up with that im afraid.you are never going to get that number of overexcited small boys to be quiet. mcdonalds encourage you to eat up and leave

thebody Sat 18-May-13 14:56:37

I wouldn't go to maccis on any day. Just for teens I think.

Take your dd somewhere nicer as a Saturday treat.

Not criticising you just saying its not a peaceful place and you have to eat with your fingers..

Yeuk!!

crashdoll Sat 18-May-13 15:02:06

YABU and expecting to much from McDonalds!

crashdoll Sat 18-May-13 15:02:17

*too much

pigletmania Sat 18-May-13 15:04:06

Oh dear think I am expecting a bit too much of kids these days and getting cantankerous in my old age grin

IcingTheCake Sat 18-May-13 15:04:55

To be honest I'm surprised the staff didn't move the chairs around better so there was plenty of space around the pitch ( I'm guessing it was the ones that are projected from the ceiling onto the floor?) I don't think you we're being unreasonable, I would've made sure the boys kept a good distance from all tables/chairs, as you get some really young kids in mcd's, future ref, if you see a staff member in the dining area you can ask them to ask the group to mind others, we used to get it all the time when I worked in a mcd's and we knew how to deal with more stubborn kids/adults too.

Yabu for going to McDonalds

FanjoForTheMammaries Sat 18-May-13 15:07:56

Yabuptight Exit wink

Startail Sat 18-May-13 15:12:19

In ours the football pitch is a interactive game. It causes my DDs to get excited.

There is a lovely line in my old copy of toddler taming, something like...

"If your DCs are stressing you out, go to Mc Ds. There is sure to be a child there that makes you see yours isn't so bad"

NetworkGuy Sat 18-May-13 15:47:45

well done IcingTheCake, for some commonsense and constructive comments, rather than criticising the OP for using that particular chain. (also for explaining for the benefit of this old duffer {me} what the hell the football pitch idea is...).

No YANBU, OP, but afraid boys have pretty appalling role models in footballers, and clearly the nominal 'guardians' were only half cognizant of any other customers.

pigletmania Sat 18-May-13 15:59:50

Ahh some people who actually agree with me grin. Whether its te Nobu o MacDonaldsi would not expect Chidren to run about screeching like banshees and knocking people sitting in their chairs. I could see others around me looking annoyed at them, and the staff seemed exasperated.

IcingTheCake Sat 18-May-13 16:04:33

I must admit I'm surprised the amount of people who completely turn their noses up at it, your kids will only go without telling you, everyone wants to know what the fuss is about haha

ShadeofViolet Sat 18-May-13 16:11:55

Our local MD's has one of those interactive games. There is a splatting fruit one and a basketball one. We go in for Saturday breakfast when its early and therefore really quiet. I always think what a nightmare they would be if its packed.

ShadeofViolet Sat 18-May-13 16:12:53

posted too soon.

I dont think YABU OP, but I think Md's are being unreasonable for putting it in there in the first place.

pigletmania Sat 18-May-13 16:36:12

I agree shade of, it's a tiny MacD not a huge one, so everyone sardines in. I would have preferred another venue but dd lives MAcD and it would have caused a bit of a meltdown if we did not go there

BackforGood Sat 18-May-13 16:43:38

Well, I'm still not 100% clear on this projected football pitch thing (and I was in a McDs at lunchtime as it happens grin) but if it's an area for playing in, as suggested, then I would expect excitement and noise. If you feel there's no room for it in the one you go to, then your anger needs to be directed at the McDs for encouraging excitement and moving about, not at the youngsters who are taking advantage of what's been laid on for them, nor the parents who are happy for their dc to enjoy it.

Nehru Sat 18-May-13 16:44:19

OP = you sound rather intolerant

tis macdonalds ffs

If DD loves McDonald's and frankly I don't blame her, Big Mac = heaven does she like drive-thru or takeaway just as much?

PatPig Sat 18-May-13 17:08:09

YABVU.

Noorny Sat 18-May-13 17:23:59

Are you not aware junk food exacerbates ASD symptoms?

op, I have two dcs with severe Autism ( one has adhd too ) and really struggle with kids flying about the place, i've wondered why I find myself getting irritated, even at kids parties etc and have come to the conclusion it's because our dcs are so controlled ie they couldn't tear around a restaurant as they may well escape, or try to get into the kitchen, so any behaviour of that kind in the early days and they were taken home immediately.

As a result they're pretty damn well behaved kids who sit in their seat properly whether they're in MC d's or the poncy Mexican in town......any 'moments' ( as a result of their Autism ) they have are dealt with by taking them out, pretty rare these days but it is for their safety and the safety of others plus I don't like being judged by gormless twats who can stare at my disabled children simply for being whilst their own darlings run amok

I'm also a miserable old bastard who will firmly fix the death glare on any child running around anywhere that wasn't a park or whatever.......the comment about letting the cleaner pick up the spilt ice cream pretty much sums up their crapness. << and breather >>

YABU btw wink

FanjoForTheMammaries Sat 18-May-13 17:26:15

Noorny..very sweeping statement there..do you have scientific evidence?

FanjoForTheMammaries Sat 18-May-13 17:27:23

We have the classy solution. .we eat McDs in the car.

Yanbu, not YABU......I was so busy ranting about the crapness of lesser beings I got muddled blush

PopUpWorkshop Sat 18-May-13 17:29:25

Don't go to a dump like McDonalds if you're after a civilised meal.

YABU..

FanjoForTheMammaries Sat 18-May-13 17:30:02

Some of you po faced folk could do with a burger and shake tbh

McNewPants2013 Sat 18-May-13 17:34:43

Yanbu, regardless if its McDonalds or a 5* restaurant children shouldn't be disturbing other people eating.

Running around and knocking people's chairs repeatly is not on.

My son has ASD and if he has a meltdown I pack everything up and we go home.

McNewPants2013 Sat 18-May-13 17:37:34

The only thing I have from McDonald is a coffee but DC like the food and the toy so I take them.

ENormaSnob Sat 18-May-13 17:42:25

Yanbu

I wouldn't allow my dc to behave like that.

Your vulnerable child wasn't upset about this and the parents apologised to you for the bumping. I really don't see what your problems was. It was MAcdonalds. It's always hellish.

pigletmania Sat 18-May-13 18:04:32

Noony an occasional treat is not going to harm. The main thing dd was fine. Exactly McNew, would it be ok to run around knocking people's chairs and screaming and cheering at te local Harvester, no it would not. So why do some of you think that just because it's MacDonalds it's ok to leave your manners at home hmm

pigletmania Sat 18-May-13 18:06:19

Noony since dd has started her special school last year her behaviour has really settled down, so much so I take her to rainbows and non specialist dance

pigletmania Sat 18-May-13 18:07:21

We do normally drive through but today we were on foot

LynetteScavo Sat 18-May-13 18:17:38

7/8 year old boys + party + McDonalds = raucous hell.

I am a scary old bat who tells other peoples children off (all the children in our road know this) and would have told the boys to calm down. I even told one child to take their feet of the table in Frankie & Benny's at DD's last birthday party. But I can totally see why the parents were letting the boys be loud, and make a mess. I don't think that your DD has ASD has much to do with it.....this situation would have been unpleasant for me, but then I don't expect a pleasant experience when I go to McD's, I am grateful to be able to go somewhere it doesn't matter too much if the DC spill a drink/accidentally splatter ketchup. (And I do like the food!)

Are you not aware junk food exacerbates ASD symptoms? Really Noorny? Maybe you could help the OP out by providing her with some info and links, rather than being condescending.

manicinsomniac Sat 18-May-13 18:21:08

eh? Of course your child behaved better than the boys, she was alone with adults. What a bizarre thread. Her ASD is irrelevant, it was just her and her parents. Any one of those boys would probably have been perfectly well behaved as the only child. But a group of 7/8 year olds excited after football - I wouldn't be expecting much else!

The bumping into your chair was rude though and I would have expected the parents to try and control them.

pigletmania Sat 18-May-13 18:23:44

I know lynette I should have known, Sat afternoon MacDs hell on earth. I have been frequenting MacDs now for a lot of years and on weekend too and never had this before. I sound like a bit of a bat. I did tell them nicely to be quiet, and was not rude to the parents or children but I am entitled to secretly feel this way. Dd asd means she is a creature of habit and macD is one of te very few eating places she will go on without having a meltdown.

Shakirasma Sat 18-May-13 18:40:35

Piglet, YANBU

I have been to macdonalds today, it was packed full of families and groups of kids yet none of them were being a nuisance in the way you describe. There is never any excuse for spoiling somebody elses enjoyment of their meal with OTT behaviour.

As for it being suggested that some of these kids may have not been reigned in because of SN, well that is just an insult to parents of children with SN, 95% of whom work very hard to ensure their children get proper behavioural guidance. We do not just use SN as an excuse to let them run riot.

And FTR my son's ASD is absolutely unaffected by diet!

Noorny Sat 18-May-13 20:49:53

@Lynette
Are you not aware junk food exacerbates ASD symptoms? Really Noorny? Maybe you could help the OP out by providing her with some info and links, rather than being condescending.

This is just one of the many articles out there on the subject:

http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/search/detailmini.jsp?_nfpb=true&_&ERICExtSearch_SearchValue_0=EJ829854&ERICExtSearch_SearchType_0=no&accno=EJ829854

Why do you assume I make statements such as this without evidence based medicine?

Having taught Cambridge and Manchester undergraduates medicine while working as a research associate I think I know what I am talking about.

Unlike you that is.

LynetteScavo Sat 18-May-13 21:16:25

I did not assume you made statements without having evidence, Noorny. You made your own assumption there. In fact, I suggested you provide the OP with some links.

Noorny's link made clickable

Is that what you meant to link to?

McNewPants2013 Sat 18-May-13 21:41:42

Noory diet issues are very common in asd children.

My DS who is asd loves McDonald because the food is put in seperate bags. There is very few foods DS will eat. He has spatone sachets to make sure he has vitamins ect.

Carrots and broccoli are the only veg he will eat and only if the carrots are circle cut and not like carrot sticks.

Ok junk food may be bad for them, but when you have a child who doesn't eat any food is better than none ( DS dietician has said this)

IcingTheCake Sat 18-May-13 21:58:20

Sorry, but i think OP just wanted to know if she was being unreasonable to get annoyed at the boys, she probably gets loads of advice on diet, etc. but she didnt come on here to be judged for her food choice?

nevergoogle Sat 18-May-13 22:03:02

DS1 in 8 and hates macdonalds food telling me it's disgusting. Shame, cause i like it. grin

pigletmania Sat 18-May-13 22:48:08

I came here for advice about the rowdy bows not to be torn apart for giving my dd the occasional MacDonalds,

pigletmania Sat 18-May-13 22:49:05

Bye I meant. Anything in excess is bad. I home cook and dd gets a Fred and balanced diet

pigletmania Sat 18-May-13 22:49:30

Meant varied

McNewPants2013 Sat 18-May-13 22:53:37

Piglet just ignore them.

pigletmania Sat 18-May-13 23:02:18

Thanks McNew smile, I guess you do get te self righteous on here at times. I am not having a problem with dd behaviour at te moment, it's not got worse, in fact since starting her Autistic school it's improved

LynetteScavo Sat 18-May-13 23:02:49

Exactly, IcingTheCake, which is why Noorny's post made me so hmm.

Groups of excited boys are mostly very annoying. Therefore, pigletmania, YANBU.

pigletmania Sat 18-May-13 23:10:52

Thanks lynette smile

pigletmania Sat 18-May-13 23:12:27

They are lynette knocking my chair ad invading my table save with their footballing antics. I have a 15 month ds so got that to look forward to

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