IP address finder

(37 Posts)
Altinkum Sat 18-May-13 08:57:44

If you send a email, can the person getting the email get your IP address from it?

HollyBerryBush Sat 18-May-13 08:58:14

yes

Altinkum Sat 18-May-13 09:00:45

Right so would they be able to know then who sent it?

Altinkum Sat 18-May-13 09:01:11

I mean by name?

cinnamonsugar Sat 18-May-13 09:01:54

It depends on what you are using to send the email. Sometimes yes, sometimes no. For example: Gmail never ever sends the end user's IP address in the email headers, Hotmail does.

MalcolmTuckersMum Sat 18-May-13 09:03:58

I would have thought that only your Internet Service provider can identify who is behind a particular IP and even then probably only at the request of the Police or some other authority.
What exactly did you have in mind OP?

Altinkum Sat 18-May-13 09:07:18

Its with hotmail!

I will get this deleted.

My Friend thought it was a "good" idea, to send my bosses a customer complaint on my behalf, after yet another incident. Although nothing untoward was said in the email, it was all factually correct, I am now worried it will be traced back to me, as she done it while I was in bed (she
stayed over).

I've no idea how if this comes out what the repercussion will be.

Its a bit like my dog ate the homework scenario.

Furious is how I am feeling rigt now.

You can depending on the program you use to send it AMD if you have it you can identify an area where it's come from. And who the ISP are. In order to get more you'd need to go to the ISP and have a reason - usually it would need to be the police or similar for harassment or like when the music companies go after illegal down loaders.

Why?

Did she use your name?

Altinkum Sat 18-May-13 09:11:21

Basically she pretended to a customer who witnessed a incident at work, (verbal abuse) and emailed the bosses.

Altinkum Sat 18-May-13 09:12:00

No just my built height, etc.... No names at all.

Using her email address or yours?

Just how tech savvy are,your,bosses?

Sorry. iPad hates me.

Altinkum Sat 18-May-13 09:15:55

My boss is a IT consultant, (expert)

She made up a fake email address via email. But used my IP address.

Feel sick! Can't believe how thick she has been.

juneybean Sat 18-May-13 09:18:10

As far as I know the only IP in hotmails headers are their own servers. You can google your own ip address and compare it to the headers.

Juney - in hotmail it certainly used to show your own originating IP address.

Look. Your boss would have to do this. Trace the ISP. From the header. Then go to the ISP with a reason why they wanted the info as to who it belonged to.

Who on earth is going to be interested over a customer complaint email.

juneybean Sat 18-May-13 09:24:43

Yeah, I remember it used to but in recent years I cannot fathom out how to even get full headers on... And I like to think I'm quite savvy!

Also your bosses would already need to have your ip to know it was you, I doubt they check every email.

cinnamonsugar Sat 18-May-13 09:26:00

juneybean Hotmail headers used to contain X-Originating-IP with the client IP and I know they did as of last year, but I just googled and it appears they stopped in December 2012 - bit.ly/112YpGp

Altinkum Even if they can get an IP, it'll be very difficult to identify you from it. Assuming you have a standard broadband connection, the IP address will resolve to something that is completely unidentifiable. Unless your boss knows for a fact that it is your IP, but as above it seems Hotmail have stopped doing it.

Altinkum Sat 18-May-13 09:26:59

I've googled it and no name mentioned, just my location and network provider, which is fine.

If they weren't knowledgable in IT, I couldn't care less, (except for the deceit from my friend) because everything is accuract, and from a customers point.

Altinkum Sat 18-May-13 09:30:15

Thankyou everyone, I'm more at ease now.

Altinkum Sat 18-May-13 20:16:38

Frick frock dock...

Do income clean....

The people in charge have took this complaint extremely serious...

Nothing said, has been incorrect, untruthful nor been exaggerated.

But I had to give a statement on the complaint in which I did, all factually correct.

However I feel as of I'm betraying my bosses.

Dh has said, that if friend didnt say anything, then I would yet again be left again to be put I blame. Due to the member of staff going on "retirement"

I NEVER lie, its not in my nature, I feel incredibly disloyal about the while thing.

However because of this complaint, the bosses have now seen and acknowledged that the abuse I'm getting is unfair, however has been much worse previously .

Altinkum Sat 18-May-13 21:37:19

No one?

Is my moral dilemma, just me, do I become a liar.

Did you know your friend was doing it before they sent the email?

Are they asking to interview your friend as a "customer"?

MalcolmTuckersMum Sat 18-May-13 21:39:27

Liar about what?

Altinkum Sat 18-May-13 22:09:09

No I didn't no, and friend won't be interviewed.
I'm a liar fr knowing that my friend done this... And then I had to ive a statement about what my friend said.

So in effect, even truthful, and factually, I knew beforehand what was said, before the interveiw came about.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Altinkum Sat 18-May-13 22:54:51

I would not have had, I am only worrying as my bosses, are a IT expert, hence my worry.

the outcome even from a true witness would have been the same, my moral compass however has dented my morals. I feel as if i'm betraying my employers, as I am the one whose light is now showing to be truthful, and my colleagues not.

its right I know it is, but i still feel deceitful

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Altinkum Sat 18-May-13 23:15:42

No they don't , going by today none would identify me by my IP address, as the majority of our city uses the "network".
In my extreme lack knowledgeable in IT skills, I can see I was unknowledgeable.

I can see the better good in this white lie, however it does not ease my conscious, as I'm benefiting from the lie.

MalcolmTuckersMum Sat 18-May-13 23:17:57

It's all a bit of a drama isn't it? BAFTAs were last week I think.

Altinkum Sat 18-May-13 23:47:29

BAFTAs, well yes, if only that made you cry beyond despair and make you want to leave your job, leaving you in finiancial dispute!!!

Make a mockerty as you will.

Abuse ar work s no easy fete!!!

hmm

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

garlicgrump Sat 18-May-13 23:55:24

I've been seriously bullied at work and it did me a LOT of lasting harm, professionally and personally. It's really hard to bring bullies to rights, especially when your confidence has been damaged and you're in the vulnerable position.

I think your friend did you a favour. I'm very glad it's been taken seriously. Ask HQ to delete this thread.

All the best!

Altinkum Sun 19-May-13 07:06:24

No it is lunatic, and thankyou for the advice.

Just hate the way I'm feeling, however I can see that this has done me good.

I don't find mocking the situation nice, as if its some sort of soap opera, its my life which is leaving me in tears.

yegodsandlittlefishes Sun 19-May-13 07:35:59

If the bosses were to pursue the truth behind your friend's email, they might contact her at a later date. She would then be using a different IP address. If any action is resting on your account and her email alone, they will need to check her out. So yes, I can see your worry.

However, it would seem that because of her email, they are moving to some 'retirement' action for the one who bullied you. Is that right? So perhaps they talked to the bully and he admitted what s/he had done. Or, with a customer's account to protect them, others said what they saw happen. So they have witness accounts closer to hand now, and won't need your friend to get involved.
Unless the bully decides to go for unfair dismissal...

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