To think you shouldn't turn down the page corners of a library book?

(99 Posts)
BeautifulBlondePineapple Mon 13-May-13 20:36:25

Yes I know. Minor problem and all that.

DS age 8 is doing it. I told him to use a bookmark. DH tells me I'm being ridiculous.

Opinions please!

Sparklingbrook Mon 13-May-13 20:38:06

YANBU. It's not your book.

VivaLeBeaver Mon 13-May-13 20:38:43

Mmmm, I do it all the time. Never really thought about it before.

Sparklingbrook Mon 13-May-13 20:39:36

Naughty Viva

AmberLeaf Mon 13-May-13 20:40:18

I'd do it.

Too many instances of dropping a book and the bookmark falling out!

I like well thumbed books and that includes turned corners.

You never turn the corners on a book, never never never


Forgetfulmog Mon 13-May-13 20:40:24

I do too viva! Oh well shoot me now wink

Sparklingbrook Mon 13-May-13 20:40:50


nethunsreject Mon 13-May-13 20:40:57


Sparklingbrook Mon 13-May-13 20:41:35

I bet you are all writing in the margins too. angry

dashoflime Mon 13-May-13 20:42:54

I do that! I know I shouldn't though blush

numbum Mon 13-May-13 20:43:14

I fold the corners blush But I love it when I go to fold a page and it's already been folded by someone else I'm a bit odd like that

OMG shock

Writing in the margins shock

I can't deal with this I'm going to hide this thread and then stroke my books, they're getting twitchy.

numbum Mon 13-May-13 20:44:34

TBH OP I'd just be glad my 8 year old was reading

glares at 8 year old DS who refuses to read anything that doesn't involve a world record or a car

Forgetfulmog Mon 13-May-13 20:44:36

Binky grin

VivaLeBeaver Mon 13-May-13 20:45:01

I do worse with the library books. blush

Our library is self service and I never have my card with me so just take books without booking them out! I do take them back though.

Sparklingbrook Mon 13-May-13 20:45:48

The alarm would go off at ours Viva, grin

ShadowStorm Mon 13-May-13 20:46:57


I think that no-one should ever turn down corners on a book. Poor vandalised book.

Also, re bookmarks falling out, you can get magnetic ones that sort of clip over pages. They don't fall out easily.

ChunkyChicken Mon 13-May-13 20:48:10


Thankfully DH & I agree when it comes to treatment of books, so we would NEVER let either DC do this. You could say we're on the same page...

<tumbleweed blows across thread>

I'll get my coat.

Sparklingbrook Mon 13-May-13 20:48:16

I don't fold corners down on my own books.

TwasBrillig Mon 13-May-13 20:48:43

I fold corners in library books. Makes sense really.

Wouldn't write in a library book but did in all my books when studying. I used to love borrowing my tutors books and seeing key points underlined and his collection of symbols at the side. I definitely study better if I can anotate!

I don't even break the spines.

Sparklingbrook Mon 13-May-13 20:50:42

Why does it make sense though? confused

GingerPCatt Mon 13-May-13 20:51:07

After spending hours un-turning corners and rubbing out pencil marks, as a librarian I beg you not to do thus to library books. There is also a special level in hell where demon tear bit of flesh of people who tear pages out if library books.

Sparklingbrook Mon 13-May-13 20:52:56

'tear pages out' <faints>

Exogenesis Mon 13-May-13 20:53:02

Ginger I feel the same.

i used to do this with all books that i read

now i use magnetic bookmarks. they're fab and never come off unless you fiddle with them as you read grin

OrangeFireandGoldashes Mon 13-May-13 20:56:11

YANBU. It's not your book! If you want to fold the corners down [shudder] or write in it [dry heave], then buy your own copy.

tear pages out? write in margins? shock what fresh new kind of hell is this? shock


Sparklingbrook Mon 13-May-13 20:57:32

I am finding this thread deeply upsetting.

PointeShoes Mon 13-May-13 20:57:57

Nope that's damaging the book. At uni, people write their notes all over the pages and highlight them!

CloudsAndTrees Mon 13-May-13 20:58:47

I have this issue with my ds, but he's 12 and I'm blush because he really should know better by now.

He shows me the books from his school library, and I can see that he's right when he says 'but everyone else does it!' Apparently bookmarks fall out and get lost in school bags too easily, and they are a hassle to find when you are about to go to sleep. hmm

I have failed sad

I'm changing my will, ALL my books are coming with me when I die, I couldn't leave them to suffer this fate.

Sparklingbrook Mon 13-May-13 20:59:48

sparkling, you could have put a warning up. I'm having palpitations

KatyDid02 Mon 13-May-13 21:01:55

I wouldn't do it with a library book but I used to do it with my own books.
As for writing in the margins, I do it all the time with academic text books but only ones that I own.

AmberLeaf Mon 13-May-13 21:03:56

I actually hate bookmarks anyway!

I wouldn't write in a book though, unless it was a study companion and even then only in pencil.

Sparklingbrook Mon 13-May-13 21:04:18

I still have my scribbled in copy of Macbeth somewhere from GCSE. We all had to buy our own copy and the Letts Revision Guide. grin

Oh and A Tale of Two Cities and The Importance of Being Earnest.

OutragedFromLeeds Mon 13-May-13 21:08:41


Corner folders YABVVVVVVVVU. Shame on all of you. You don't damage something that doesn't belong to you.

Yawn4theday Mon 13-May-13 21:15:55

No turning down the page, no writing in them.

Worst of all, unidentifiable blobs of stuff that one hopes is just food.

pigsDOfly Mon 13-May-13 21:17:45

It drives me mad when I'm reading a library book and some idiot has 'corrected' something the author has written.

Yes, it is annoying when there is a glaringly awful grammatical error all the way through a book, as in a library book it was reading recently, but it's even more annoying when someone has found every example and crossed it through in blue ink.

Do these people sit reading with pen at the ready or, as I imagine, spend 10 minutes looking for a pen so they can feel all smug and self satisfied from knowing better than someone who's actually had a book published.

NicholasTeakozy Mon 13-May-13 21:28:20

YANBU in the slightest. I don't turn corners of books I own never mind books belonging to others. To bookmark I use a shop receipt and fold it over the top of the page which locks it in place.

Anifrangapani Mon 13-May-13 21:29:51

I use the corners turned down as a reader review. If there is loads of them the book is hard going so gets left on the shelf.

myroomisatip Mon 13-May-13 21:42:25


I never ever turn down the corners of pages of any books, not even my own.

smile My Dad loved books and he taught me to treat them with respect. I will never forget that smile

Oddly, my son won't even buy a magazine that looks even slightly crumpled hmm and he was too young to be influenced by my Dad.

Kasterborous Mon 13-May-13 22:00:49

No YANBU, it's one of my pet hates in any book not just library ones. You can use anything as a book mark, my current one is an old lottery ticket.

CleanHankie Mon 13-May-13 22:50:43

If you have to turn down the corners, please please please make sure you unfold them before you return the book. It is the cause of most papercuts in Librarians grin

Never highlight any passage in a book that doesn't belong to you. All post-it notes must be removed before returning also. Do you hear me Uni students? I do not wish to spend most of my shelving time, removing the pesky things like I did last week. Just because it's self return doesn't mean you get away with it!

(Btw Does anyone know how I remove those lines that inform you someone has highlighted it on the Kindle?)

Nelly000 Mon 13-May-13 22:55:08

I NEVER, NEVER turn down corners or damage books that aren't mine in anyway.

In fact, I'd have serious issues writing in a book I owned.

Deary me, I need to lie down...

HerrenaHarridan Mon 13-May-13 23:16:22

Never deface books! What the hell kind of sickos are you!

Writing in _study guides_ is acceptable.

If you can't cope with using a proper book mark use a post it grin

You can get lots of really cool book marks, my mum has one that is an electronic dictionary envy

Turning down corners? shock <shudders>
Breaking spines? <weeps>
Scribbling in margins? <faints>
Tearing out pages? <reaches for shotgun grin>

FreudiansSlipper Mon 13-May-13 23:34:56

YANBU Of course you shouldn't

Would you if you borrowed a book from a friend

greencolorpack Mon 13-May-13 23:38:01

I think turning over corners is much the lesser of two evils than people who read books and put them face down (ruining the spine) shudders!!!

TigerSwallowTail Mon 13-May-13 23:39:56

I'm getting palpitations just reading this thread, corner turning, highlighting, margin writing and correcting the authors work, in ink...!

Books should be treated with respect.

I need to go and lie down now.

I try not to break the spine of my books, I might have read a book four or five times and it still looks unread, until my dh gets a hold of it, dd is a corner folder and my db has been known to rip sections of his book off as he reads it!!! He has a kindle type thing so that doesn't happen now, and even though dh has kindle type thing he still destroys books I have had for decades. I want my books to last for a very long time - I can't understand people who don't look after them.

beecrazy Mon 13-May-13 23:40:56

I use elastic bands as bookmarks, they don't fall out in your bag and when reading outside mean the pages don't blow about. (You have to have one large enough not to damage the pages though.)

Yanbu, although it is preferable to using a pube as a bookmark. <shudders> My word, I saw some horrors as a library assistant.

OutragedFromLeeds Tue 14-May-13 00:58:59


LTB. All of them. You deserve better.

beansmum Tue 14-May-13 01:05:57

I turn down the corners to mark pages - and I also turn them down (or up) so the corner is pointing at a word I need to look up. (Sometimes) I unfold them before I return them.

What's the big deal?

I never write in library books - although I quite like it when someone else has.

YANBU - people should use a bookmark. I don't know why people think they have the right to turn down pages on books that don't belong to them, it seems really rude to me.

My DB is a librarian. He is a quiet, bookish sort. He will hunt you down and kill you if you hurt the books.

He bought a two bed flat and when my DM asked if they could stay there, my DB looked shock and said, "that room is for my books".

He's single if anyone is interested...

amazingmumof6 Tue 14-May-13 01:54:16

I would never dream of turning the corners or doing any other kind of vandalism to innocent books, especially if not mine!

I don't use a book mark either, I just remember where I left off.
is that rare?

amazingmumof6 Tue 14-May-13 02:09:54

I don't think that writing in your own books is bad though.

I write in my recipe books all the time as I need to remember to adjust the recipe or the gasmark or jot down other details or inspired ideas. I view them as "unfinished", a starting point and as such they should be completed by the user.

I underline special verses in my Bible and make notes on the margins for myself.

If I give a book as a present I always write a note inside for the person receiving it - and I prefer books given to me be the same way.

LittleMissLucy Tue 14-May-13 03:33:53

where I live, in the older library books it states that "folding, marking, creasing, ripping or otherwise defacing is against the law"

MumOfTwoCats Tue 14-May-13 04:23:22

I kid you not when in a sauna there was an idiot girl who was reading a library book! Others asked her if it was her own book and she freely admitted it was the libraries!

MusicalEndorphins Tue 14-May-13 04:52:03

MrsTerryPratchett, I bet if he wrote that on a dating profile it would appeal to a lot of people. Right away they know they will not be plagued with long visits from the in-laws! grin Book lovers will flock to him!

MusicalEndorphins Tue 14-May-13 04:55:03

Way to give my DS1 a heart attack: put a cup on a book, lay a book face down and open, write in it, or fold a page.

MusicalEndorphins Tue 14-May-13 04:58:13

Amazing mum, I write in cook books, and a message inside when I give a book as a present. And I stupidly did underline some things in a book twice, I regret it now.

MusicalEndorphins you're probably right. From his FB I think a couple of the female librarians may be interested but he's oblivious. grin

Librarina Tue 14-May-13 06:17:41

To all of those who deface library books, I have only this to say...

And if you use a self-service library and don't swipe your books, please do. We are judged on our issue figures and if they're not good enough there is a real risk that your library will close.

(Rather fancying MrsTerryPratchett's brother right now...)

Sparklingbrook Tue 14-May-13 06:22:10

I am surprised I slept at all last night after finding all this book abuse was rife.

LifeIsBetterInFlipFlops Tue 14-May-13 06:31:26

No....I wouldn't dream of folding corners down, it's not my property to do so.

exoticfruits Tue 14-May-13 06:40:38

I never turn down the corners of my own books, never mind ones that don't belong to me- I can't bear it. If the bookmark drops out get him a magnetic one and insist he uses it.
What I really can't stand in library books are the idiots who think they should correct the author by writing in the margin- they are generally wrong anyway and I certainly don't want their opinion, even if they are right.

sparkle12mar08 Tue 14-May-13 06:51:20

People who break the spines and turn the corners on books that are not theirs should have their hands chopped off and lemon juice rubbed into the bloody stumps... shock

RooneyMara Tue 14-May-13 07:00:17

Mrs Terry I think I might very well be interested!!!!

I would never turn a corner on a book, not even my own...though I used to as a child. My family was obsessed with books, I hated reading as I found it so hard to absorb what I had read (processing issue perhaps, or OCD - I had to go over and over a sentence) so I was often lonely because of books...they read non stop and no one wanted to play with me.

I have a few bookcases full, but I rarely read.
If your DB can cope with a DIYer who likes motorcycles, though, I'd happily put up with a book person smile

RooneyMara Tue 14-May-13 07:01:01

I used to work on short loan in a university library btw. If that qualifies me in any way.

livinginwonderland Tue 14-May-13 07:27:07

i never turn down corners in books. i use bookmarks or old reciepts instead. i did used to write in textbooks, though, but not library ones. it made essays ten times easier and quicker.

Hissy Tue 14-May-13 07:32:13

I am shuddering, just shuddering.

Turning corners is bad enough in ANY book, even our own, but writing in them?


Sparklingbrook Tue 14-May-13 07:34:03

Hate seeing books face down too.

lottiegarbanzo Tue 14-May-13 07:52:59

Urghh. How can your DH not see it is vandalism?

This thread just strengthens my resolve not to lend anyone a book ever. It's a serious test of friendship and sadly often fails (usually because they don't come back but sometimes because they've been casually mangled).

amazingmumof6 Tue 14-May-13 08:56:22

hissy so do you think I should be punished for writing in my own books? I hope the punishment would be hours and hours of community service in a library - I could do with a peace & quiet! grin

amazingmumof6 Tue 14-May-13 08:56:44

*with a bit of peace...

LilacBreastedRoller Tue 14-May-13 09:19:03


Eilidhbelle Tue 14-May-13 09:28:19

Viva, please don't do that. I'm a librarian and our budgets are based on issues - how many times a book is checked out. So your library won't get anything from that, their budgets will keep being cut and no one will be able to do anything about it.

diddl Tue 14-May-13 09:35:53

MrsTP-how old is your brother?grin

A whole room full of books-fantastic-or doesn't he allow anyone to read them??

zoobaby Tue 14-May-13 09:56:04

shock Listen here all you book abusers...

Use a post-it note as your bookmark.

Place it down low so the top of the post-it is in line with the top of the page and you just see the colour of the post-it along the top edge of the book.

They last ages. The sticky strip stays clean. The book stays non-defaced. Everyone's a winner!

FrenchJunebug Tue 14-May-13 10:01:47

of course YABU. I do that all the times with library books and my books.

Sparklingbrook Tue 14-May-13 10:05:56

<updates spreadsheet>

HaplessHousewife Tue 14-May-13 10:13:32

Ah, Binky are you my long lost twin? Everyone thinks I'm a bit strange because I don't break spines either.

My books are all in boxes at the moment but in our old house I had two bookcases, one with books I'd read and one with books I hadn't (I have an issue buying more books than I can get through) and you couldn't tell which bookcase was which blush.

Doesn't admit books were also arranged alphabetically and I've only ever lent one book (to DH) and that made me twitchy so hasn't been repeated.

My book issues aside, do what you want with your own books but if you've borrowed a book from someone else whether it's a library or a person, look after it!

McNewPants2013 Tue 14-May-13 10:43:00

Only in my own books, never in a library book

Hapless I must be, lovely to finally meet you, I will be asking my mother why she didn't tell me. grin

My books are arranged alphabetically, and NO ONE borrows them, friends refuse when they are offered a loan because they are afraid of damaging them.

I had a really really exciting find the other day when rummaging in my handbag, £12 of waterstones vouchers, I am saving them for when the stress of home is too much then I can treat myself to a day out book shopping.

We have a 1st addition Sir Gawain and the Green Knight and I can't bear to open it, someone has graffitied notes all over the margins, I'm coming over all cold just thinking about it.

EssexGurl Tue 14-May-13 11:31:44

Sorry - you shouldn't do it on ANY book, library book or not.

hapless are you me? grin

i have a 2 bookcases overfilled with books... the ones i have read are on the top and the ones on the shelves i am slowly working my way through them. the only person that is allowed to borrow any is my mum... and i get incredibly twitchy if dh even looks at them... let alone touch them shock

i cant wait to get another bookcase so i can start putting the read ones in alphabetical order. oh how i dream of having a proper room for them all.

mrsterryprachett if i was single i would so be interested grin

currentbuns Tue 14-May-13 12:19:19

In no particular order, I've dropped a library book in the bath, abandoned one out on the lawn, leaving it to get damp and left a coffee ring on a cover. I do not fold page corners down, though. Always use a bookmark.

aldiwhore Tue 14-May-13 12:25:30

I wouldn't do it on a book that wasn't mine. Or rather I would try NOT to do it... then forget myself and feel guilty.

As a general rule, if it's not yours, don't alter it!

My own books have turned page corners, they sit like fans on the shelf after being dropped in the bathwater/slept on, they are grubby. My favourite books are the ones in the worse state, and as they're mine I make no apology. Sometimes when I'm not sure what to read I seek out the shabbiest because I know it will be good.

I DID appreciate the pencil (not pen) notes in the margain of unversity reference books though, so please, Librarians, don't rub those out!! (U I know) x

snugglesnook Sat 25-May-13 21:46:30


MiddleAgeMiddleEngland Sat 25-May-13 22:11:23

zoobaby beat me to it smile

If you're worried about your bookmark falling out, use a post-it. Simple

In fact, you could write a nice comment about the book and leave it in if it's a library book.

Never, never, never turn down a page. But better to do that than do as a friend used to do (before I reformed him...) - he would tear out a thumbnail sized piece from the corner instead. shock

SueDoku Sat 25-May-13 22:29:27

If you own a book, you can do as you wish <averts eyes> to the poor thing... but a library book should never, never be damaged by folding pages, being written in (I've spent long hours rubbing out all those notes made in set texts.... angry) or otherwise ill-treated. The message that some borrowers don't seem to grasp is this, 'The Book Doesn't Belong To You..!'. If you want to use a bacon rind, or a butter wrapper, or the wrapper from an icecream as a bookmark (and yes, I've found all of these over the years) - DO IT IN YOUR OWN BOOK... !!!

MadamFolly Sat 25-May-13 22:40:46

I turn the corners of normal books that are just words.

Never, never in my graphic novels or other books with pictures in. That is because those books are works of art, not just a medium for a story.

I caught my Dad saving his place in one of my Sandman books by leaving it open facedown. I went apeshit. I would be fine with anyone doing this with a normal paperback that is only words.

MadamFolly Sat 25-May-13 22:42:28

The only books I write in are my bibles, that is because I study them and have written many academic essays on them. I am also an atheist.

I would never write in my Qu'ran though. confused

IncrediblePhatTheInnkeepersCat Sat 25-May-13 23:06:38

I write annotations in texts that I'm teaching, but they are second hand books bought solely for that purpose. I have pristine versions as well.

Other than those, I never dog-ear pages or crack the spine.

I still remember crying one Christmas morning when my Mum borrowed my brand new copy of One Hundred and One Dalmatians, opened it to read it by bending the front cover round to the back, thus ruining the spine totally. <sob> She couldn't understand why I was upset. sad

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