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to buy DS an under 3 admission ticket for the zoo on his 3rd birthday

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ChazDingle Fri 10-May-13 22:16:04

Going twycross for DS 3rd birthday next week.

under 3's are £1
3-16 is £10.45 so its a big jump

don't suppose he could then wear a badge saying 'i am 3'

ChazDingle Fri 10-May-13 22:17:03

also just thought- would answer be different if i book in advance thereby making him 2 at time of booking?

5madthings Fri 10-May-13 22:20:58

Yanbu just pay the cheaper price!

This may be interesting tho, it seems to split views on mnet...

HansieMom Fri 10-May-13 22:21:23

What time of day was he born? If it was six p.m., then he is not three til then.

Piffpaffpoff Fri 10-May-13 22:22:05

Cheaper price, providing you can stop him from telling everyone in sight that he is 3!

ChazDingle Fri 10-May-13 22:22:53

good point, he was actually born at 10 to 8 at night and we'll be left well before then so he will technically still be 2!

Fuckwittery Fri 10-May-13 22:23:33

i did this on dds third birthday last week! although, she was born at 5.45pm and i reckon i bought the fairground ticket about. 4pm so i wasnt really lying!

SkinnybitchWannabe Fri 10-May-13 22:23:35

Go for it. Have fun

HollyBerryBush Fri 10-May-13 22:23:38

Of you like stealing, go ahead. Why would you lie?

5madthings Fri 10-May-13 22:25:24

Well there you go then, technically he will still be two!

Seriously op I am sure you will be going again in the future where you will have to pay the full price but you can get away with it this time smile

WillowB Fri 10-May-13 22:26:07

Oh come on! The adults will be paying full price anyway, plus they'll prob be buying drinks & stuff whilst they're there. I don't think the zoo will be out of pocket.

Smellslikecatspee Fri 10-May-13 22:26:22

You do know he will announce loudly 'its my birthday I'm 3' in that special loud voice they have, right as you,re buying/ showing the ticket, don't you.

I did this when we went to the zoo last summer blush

I feel really really naughty about it, but it would have bumped costs up so much none of us could go. We probably spent the amount of the tickets in the gift shop and restaurant though, so it probably balanced itself out a bit...

HousewifeFromHeaven Fri 10-May-13 22:27:36

My dd is 15 not 16 tomorrow as it saves me £28.

ChazDingle Fri 10-May-13 22:30:22

smellslikecatspee> I would be very suprised if he did that (although it would typically happen when i didn't want it too) He generally tells people he is 6 or 7 which i can get away with as he looks no where near that or just talks completely off topic but thats another story....

LadyBeagleEyes Fri 10-May-13 22:30:39

Of course you should do it.
I did this too when ds was little.

CloudsAndTrees Fri 10-May-13 22:30:46

YANBU.

5madthings Fri 10-May-13 22:35:02

When we did this to get into legoland I had dd in a sling and put ds4 in the pushchair, took his shoes off and gave him his 'daddy' blanket as he would then be likely to suck his thumb..

I just asked for four adults and three children as went through ticket bit. They didn't ask me the ages of the little two, dd obviously under three and ds4 was 3 but down in the pushchair the person processing the tickets paid no attention/assumed he was under three and I didn't correct them.

is obviously going to hell as I have done this whenever I have a child who is just at the cut off for paying

NishiNoUsagi Fri 10-May-13 22:35:24

Well, I tried to do this once but DS1 was 3 and a half.. <naughtyface>
However I bottled it and told the man on the desk his real age. He winked and said, "Surely he's only two, go on, in you go!" and let him in for free.

But I agree with the majority, he won't really be 3 until evening anyway! Dooo iiiit!! grin

5madthings Fri 10-May-13 22:35:37

Diddy blanket not daddy...

Startail Fri 10-May-13 22:38:18

YANBU
That's a huge jump. Turn it into gift shop birthday present buying money if you feel guilty,

Tigresswoods Fri 10-May-13 22:45:02

YANBU we did this too. For a few months actually. Naughty.

Fakebook Fri 10-May-13 22:49:19

Yanbu. We got in loads of free entries when dd was a toddler. She's also quite petite so looks younger than she is. Even better. It's not like they check your passports and doctors records!

needaholidaynow Fri 10-May-13 22:53:52

YANBU.

Anyone who says that is unreasonable is just very petty and by the book.

Have fun! smile

Smellslikecatspee Sat 11-May-13 00:29:37

Hell of a jump from £1 to £10+ .

Do they look more after 3?

MamaMumra Sat 11-May-13 00:33:27

grin at stealing. Slippery slope OP. You'll be a crack-whore by the end of the week at this rate.

MagicHouse Sat 11-May-13 00:35:08

My mum did this on my third birthday. Apparantly she told me I wasn't 3 until I "got off the train"!! A bit confusing for me, and she felt guilty - but saved quite a lot of money at the time! (many years ago) Like you say - he's not even technically 3 until the evening, so you don't even have to feel guilty ;-)

TheChaoGoesMu Sat 11-May-13 00:37:49

Hell yeah. Of course you should. I would.

Snazzynewyear Sat 11-May-13 00:38:26

On the day of his actual birthday, I really wouldn't worry about it.

My mum popped my sister's friend in the boot of our car when we went somewhere we had a season ticket for so we didn't have to pay for her - maybe you could do that? grin

carmenelectra Sat 11-May-13 01:17:03

Ha ha its very reasonable to do thissmile

Did it with my 3 year old a few wks ago. He is 3.5 though! Booked advance tickets for day out. Under 3's were free. So just didn't get him one! Got away with it, though at the entrance he was in a mood and in pushchair so helped with the illusion of being 2.

Had to usher older big mouthed dc's through with their dad though in case they blabbed!

Svrider Sat 11-May-13 06:32:00

Yanbu
Don't put a birthday badge that says"I am 3 tho!"
I was able to do this for ages with DD2, as she's small and slight
DS1tho (youngest child ) I have to take his passport to prove his age as he looks around 1year older than he is!
Enjoy your day op

MrRected Sat 11-May-13 06:38:34

Go ahead. If you think it's ok to steal.

If you were totally comfortable with this you wouldn't have needed to start a thread looking for validation. You know it's wrong.

What goes around comes around. Yes - this is just small but it's a slippery slope.

Ds is nearly 8 amount times I go pay over as over 5 and they look at me and say you don't pay for under 5 ( ds3 is very very small height of a 3/4 year old add sat in wheelchair or my lap and speech issue so I think oh well not questioning it

Let alone the hassle of then trying stand argue that no he is over 5 yes ry and having to explain it to someone in full hearing lots of other people

ClartyCarol Sat 11-May-13 06:45:19

Oh ffs MrRected - a slippery slope to what exactly? Please do elaborate.

OP - YANBU.

MrsGrowbag Sat 11-May-13 06:53:07

I had bizarre situation once with DS2 when he was 4 and I took him to London by train. Ticket seller asked how old he was and when I said 4 (under 5s travel free), ticket seller winked and said "5, you say?" and then explained that there was some deal where you paid £1 for children over 5 and then got 1/3 off adult ticket. Whereas if hed travelled free as a 4 year old I'd have paid full price.

Buzzardbird Sat 11-May-13 06:59:36

My dh got me into an event as a child and I was 39! It was raining so I had the hood of my coat up and it was dark (must have been).

Dh was joking but they took him seriously shock

Oh well I'm going to hell today too! Going on the Thomas train. £12.50 a ticket, under 2s free. Ds was 2 last week. If places are blatantly going to hike prices and offer no child discount people are going to do this.

It's hardly a slippery slope though, I remember my mum telling me on the bus I wasn't five so I got on for free. She is still a law abiding citizen and I, so far haven't turned to human trafficking or prostitution. I do however still lie about my age!

Although less likely the ds will blurt out he is two. He isn't talking that clearly yet.

DeskPlanner Sat 11-May-13 07:07:28

What a lovely ticket seller, Growbag. smile

Yes, pay the cheaper price. I've done it, with no guilt at all.

grin grin at slippery slope. I mean, come on....

MrRected Sat 11-May-13 07:20:32

Clarty you can FFS all you like. It's a slippery slope to the next thing. Cheating on tickets today, would you think twice about evading fares on the train next time.

More importantly, for me (and I've been there), cheating the system is a slippery slope to feeling crap about myself. A tenner is a tenner. As much as it doesn't bother you, this WOULD bother me. So I wouldn't do it.

Arf at "stealing" and "slippery slope". Slippery slope to what?
FWIW OP, when I was eighteen I once absolutely had to get the bus driver to give me a child's ticket because otherwise I would have been stranded 20 miles from home, and I'm about the least likely person to commit an actual crime ever grin

Saving you nine quid - it's a no-brainer, really.

MrRected Sat 11-May-13 07:22:08

I'd also hate having to be worried about being rumbled all day. I'd rather pay up and enjoy the day with a clean conscience.

madammoose Sat 11-May-13 07:23:06

Three does seen a popular age for hiking up admission fees. Unfair as it is also an age where children may not have a long attention span, or alternatively may fall asleep, meaning missing out on a full day and not getting your money's worth.

I think 5 would be fairer for child specific attractions and maybe 8 or 10 for zoos and other places. What do others think?

IwishIwasmoreorganised Sat 11-May-13 07:25:45

Each to their own MrRected, but I wouldn't waste a second thinking about this.

OP - have a good day next week!

madammoose Sat 11-May-13 07:28:08

*seem not seen

ClartyCarol Sat 11-May-13 07:30:37

If you evade paying train fares ( which I wouldn't) then you have a very real chance of getting caught and fined.

The OP's little boy is turning 3 that day. She will be paying admission for the other people in the party; she is hardly asking if she'd be U to hustle the whole family in without paying.

Most big attractions these days charge hefty admission fees and it is hardly surprising that people balk at paying ten times as much for a small child as they would've done the day before.

ClartyCarol Sat 11-May-13 07:35:17

MrRected - really can't see a zoo official covertly following the family round all day to 'rumble' whether the child is actually really two, can you? And what of the other employees mentioned by pp's who've given tip offs about saving money - I expect they should be sacked?

Madamouse - I agree.

Icantstopeatinglol Sat 11-May-13 07:35:45

Jeez, go for it!! Yanbu! It's expensive enough going to places like this with the family and its only 1 time ffs!
Have a lovely day and don't feel guilty, he's not 3 til the night time smile

Icantstopeatinglol Sat 11-May-13 07:36:49

.....but please don't start robbing banks!....slippery slope and all that grin

I wouldn't do it, but if I were with you I wouldn't say anything.

I can see that it doesn't make any difference on that day, but it is the same argument as used by fare dodgers and shoplifters so I choose not to.

lljkk Sat 11-May-13 08:09:59

YABVU to ask on MN. Just trust your own judgement.
(ps: I don't care which you do).

Sirzy Sat 11-May-13 08:10:37

Of course yanbu!

Midori1999 Sat 11-May-13 08:24:21

grin @ slippery slope.

I've never done this, but I've never gone on a birthday. I don't think it's up there with bank robbery or drug smuggling though....

DH says his Dad used to hide him and his brother in the boot as teens to avoid paying for them. Now that is very different and wrong AFAIIC.

We're members at a zoo and although it's free for under 3s and child ticket for overs, if your DC is under 3 at the time of joining, they're free for the whole year, regardless of if their birthday is the next day.

I used to pay child price (under 16) on the bus into town, then say I was 18 to get into the dancing when I got there. I was 17.. Now that was wrong, this is fine!!gringrin

christinarossetti Sat 11-May-13 08:41:18

Eh? How is this the same argument as that used by shop lifters?

SanityClause Sat 11-May-13 08:46:13

I couldn't do this. I'm too much of a goody two shoes.

DH would, though.

Briefly, that it makes no difference because "they" make so much money and you're "only" depriving them of a small amount.

The shoplifting margin then gets added to every ticket price.

Londonseye Sat 11-May-13 08:52:46

The boy be three until way later in that day. So op you are not lying. I did it last year with dd. I just carried her and she got free entry. Did I care? Did I feck. That slippery slope has not led to the destruction of mankind either! Amazing.

IneedAsockamnesty Sat 11-May-13 08:54:12

It wouldn't bother me on the actual day and I would but all my children have been born in the evening apart from 1 who was a 3am weirdly I wouldn't do it with him because when he wakes up on his birthday he is already that birthday age.

But then again if asked I actually say they will be x age at 11pm tonight or what ever time they were born and not one person has ever had an issue with it.

Its not stealing its being precise.

HappySeven Sat 11-May-13 08:57:12

I was honest at Chester Zoo when we took our DS for his third birthday. The lady smiled and said 'well, he's only just' and gave us an under 3 ticket.

sparkle101 Sat 11-May-13 09:02:14

I made a classical schoolgirl error on dd's 2nd birthday. Had a nice big badge for her to wear all day and when we got to the zoo they spotted it and charged her full child price! She was technically two having been born at one in the morning but still should never have taken the badge!!!

hermioneweasley Sat 11-May-13 09:02:33

Not the same as shoplifting at all. When you steal an item it has inherent value and the shop can't then sell it to someone else. Also unlikely to be spending other money in the shop. Entrance into a theme park is very unlikely to deprive the company (ie: be the concession aged kid that puts the attraction at max capacity and means they miss out in selling a £10priced ticket to another kid) and you will spend money on food, drinks, toys etc for the kid when you're there.

Ok then hermione, if you don't accept that comparison, how about the comparison with fare dodging?

MrsMook Sat 11-May-13 09:19:38

My mum used to let ticket sellers assume my age. At 8 I'd pass easily as 5 (was still in 3-4 clothes). Maybe I can sneak an arguement that being so short I had less of a view point than an average 8 year old.
'
iI'm obviously sliding down the slippery slope. 3 years ago I was in my Guider's uniform getting a single ticket to town on the bus. I asked how much it was as I normally have a daysaver. The driver told me the price, I paid up thinking it was cheaper than I expected. It wasn't until I sat down that I realised it was a child's ticket. Cheered me up to think I looked at least 13 years younger despite feeling dire from morning sickness! The daft thing is the driver should have asked me for a B-line card as proof if he thought I was reduced fare.

The karma is I can't buy alcohol without worrying about making a shop assistant/ bar staff feel silly when I produce my driving llicence. Also that DH will tease me mercilessly each time I get IDed.

eccentrica Sat 11-May-13 09:29:06

My dad would drill us before entering whatever attraction: "right, now remember - you're 8, you're 5 and you're 3"

"But dad, I AM three..."

[Grin]

Go ahead and do it. You will more than make up for it when you are paying full adult price for your 11-16 year old to fly and holiday. My DD had to pay full bus fare most of the time from the age of 14, because she looked older. Children are ripped off by the whole leisure industry.

GibberTheMonkey Sat 11-May-13 10:06:21

I was once made to pay the full bus fair even though I was three years younger than the cut off. Apparently I should have carried id. Hmm

Mr Rected what you rather i went in length explanation why my child is actually over 5?

I still buy my 16 year old under 16 train fares when we go , trains so bloody expensive if I didn't we wouldn't be able to afford to go and see family the way I see the train is going anyway its never full and at least the train company are getting some money, its wrong I know but I really think child prices should be under 18 or until they leave school, an inspector has never challenged us when checking the tickets, she looks her age and if they did she has an 11 -15 oyster card which does not end till September

DontMeanToBeRudeBut Sat 11-May-13 10:14:29

He's an evening baby so YANBU on this exceptional occasion.

Summerloading Sat 11-May-13 10:26:20

I've had a similar experience to an earlier poster who was given a tip-off by a train ticket attendant.

I genuinely didn't know how old a child had to be before they had to buy a ticket. I had (just turned 5) ds with me and asked if he needed a ticket.

He asked how old ds was, and I said 5 - he winked at me and said, "4, did you say" and waved me onto the platform!

MERLYPUSS Sat 11-May-13 10:30:15

I've done it before when I paid child price for DT1 (the larger one) and got DT2 in for free in the pushchair. So what? I spend about £30 in thte gift shop and on food that I wouldn't have normally done if I'd not saved £10 on one ticket.

Summerloading Sat 11-May-13 10:32:31

Also, dd was 3 years 1 week when we visited Disneyworld Florida. I bought her a child's pass and the first couple of times I presented it to the ticket attendant, they didn't bother looking at it and did not cancel it! Dd was in a buggy hidden by a massive teddy bear though!

After that I didn't bother presenting her pass and years later still have a valid child's pass for 4 Disney Parks grin

IrritatingInfinity Sat 11-May-13 10:38:52

I would do this on the actual day of the birthday without worrying about it.
My DC's were all tall for there ages and I wouldn't lie but I found that if I was honest and told the cashier that my DC was only just over the cutoff that they would often happily gave me the cheaper rate.
I did this a lot with Ski passes and would often get the child's rate even when the kids were nearly a year older than the cut off date.
I always thought that the cashiers were showing their appreciation of our honesty smile
It didnt always work but I must have had a 75% sucseess rate.

DontMeanToBeRudeBut Sat 11-May-13 10:41:02

I like the system at Gulliver's Land, Paulton's (Peppa Pig World) and a few others where they charge by height. I think that's fair because height restrictions also apply on the rides. I think places like Legoland charging by age when they restrict rides by height are rip-offs so no wonder people lie. We just won't go until the DC are big enough to do a decent amount.

With places like zoos, I'm only going there to entertain the DC so I don't mind paying for them. I'd obviously prefer not to have to pay for them but I wouldn't mind not paying for me either!

shewhowines Sat 11-May-13 10:41:41

yes,definitely do it.

IrritatingInfinity Sat 11-May-13 10:46:32

I do think it is dishonest to lie about the kids ages, even if you think the entry fees are ridiculous you still shouldn't lie. It is theft sad If you don't like it you shouldn't go.
What would you say to your kids when they decide it is acceptable to lie to you if you have been telling them it is ok to lie at other times.

Charging full price at 3 for amusement parks etc is outrageous. shock

Viviennemary Sat 11-May-13 10:46:54

Well technically if he was born in the evening and you take him in the morning or afternoon that should be OK for your conscience. As long as he doesn't tell the person at the door he's three.

differentnameforthis Sat 11-May-13 11:01:02

It is absolutely ridiculous that it leaps by almost 10pounds as soon as they are three. I would pay lesser price.

If that is stealing, what they are doing is daylight robbery!

dontbemean yup i will not go to theme park where charge by age ten ban ds3 from riding as to tall and say well he must have two adults with him due to sn in case ride stops as cant get down on his own ( he so tiny one could carry him if ride got stuck )

small not tall*

mrsjay Sat 11-May-13 11:29:14

book them online I cant understand the huge jump it is awful so a 2.11 month old is going to look at less animals and be less interested that a 3 year old it is madness, pay the pound and dont think anything else of it

mrsjay Sat 11-May-13 11:31:27

I would also compalin after you have been wink about the prices

I'm always honest (no judgement at all on those who aren't over things on this scale, it's just my own conscience and mild OCD I think!) and I have been stunned at the number of times and places I've had an employee "correct" my DCs age downwards with a wink.

In your scenario I'd say two because I could square it with my conscience due to the time of birth!

mrsjay Sat 11-May-13 12:27:53

I am not stingy about paying full price at all but i think a £9 jump from a 2 year old to a 3 year old is daylight robbery it doesn't make sense

Oldraver Sat 11-May-13 12:32:28

My DS was very small for his age and was in his Group 1 car seat for ages till he was nearly 7. I admit a few times when we drove up to the window the person on the gate went "oh 1/2 adults and I never corrected them blush

mrsjay Sat 11-May-13 12:36:08

dd got into longleat last year as an under 18 the woman at the desk just said 2 adults to children , blush

mrsjay Sat 11-May-13 12:36:25

she doesn't look her age either

Calabria Sat 11-May-13 14:51:26

Years ago I went with my ex and his two young nephews to a bird park. As it was out of season you just had to pay the first member of staff who you saw, rather than paying on the way in.

So when we did find someone to pay Uncle T said he wanted to pay for two adults and one child as the littlest one was under four. So the older boy pipes up in a loud voice "{little brother} is four"! Cue Uncle and staff member studiously ignoring him and me trying to keep a straight face grin

everlong Sat 11-May-13 15:09:06

It's not stealing.

Technically he won't be 3 till later on.

Can't believe that anybody would pull their face at this.

I got on the bus for half when I was 28 :-) and it was the day after a big night before!

mrsjay Sat 11-May-13 15:37:58

I got on the bus for half when I was 28 :-) and it was the day after a big night before!

I am impressed I got on till i was 21 but I was pregnant and showing so I guess they didnt believe me anymore

ChazDingle Sat 11-May-13 20:41:14

thanks for the comments, think i will book him at the cheaper price (which is actually 95p as 5% off for booking online in advance) but if anyone asked i would say it turned 3 that evening so i wouldn't be lying.

There are 4 adults going so we're going to be paying £60 on tickets alone

squoosh Sat 11-May-13 20:45:04

YANBU

Wouldn't even think twice about it!

MummaBubba123 Sat 11-May-13 21:16:40

What time of day is he 3? You could play that card!
Lol

Naysa Sat 11-May-13 21:31:49

I'm actually laughing that peooke think thia is equivilent to stealing grin

That much of a leap between the two ages is a joke. They should eith have the prices close togther or have another price for say 3-10s eg £5. Think nothig of it OP. Just try not to go robbing banks now you're a hardened criminal hmm grin

squoosh Sat 11-May-13 21:36:45

OP will be next be springing hardened crims from Securitas vans that are en route to prison.

googlyeyes Sat 11-May-13 21:42:49

YANBU!

Am actually staggered that anyone thinks this is wrong

Llanbobl Sun 12-May-13 09:22:31

Twycross is a great zoo and they do a lot of conservation work. I think YABU doing them out of the extra revenue for that reason alone.

Alternatively if you are determined to go down the under 3 path, choose the opt out prices and only pay 91pence for your 3 year old. Of course IMHO you would then BVVU

But hey, you save some money but the zoo lose out .

FuckThisShit Sun 12-May-13 09:29:16

He won't be three FFS! Stealing? Slippery slope? Do get a fucking grip.

mrsjay Sun 12-May-13 09:30:10

the op is paying 60 quid and probably be buying stuff in the zoo she isn't doing the zoo out of anything twycross is a huge zoo £9 means nothing to them dont play they are a poor/disadvantaged conservation project they are not, maybe if twycross or any other zoo had reasonable prices and not such a unreasonable leap from 2 to 3 then people wouldn't feel they were being ripped off.

IneedAsockamnesty Sun 12-May-13 09:35:24

Llan,

If we are being precise about it the ops son will not turn 3 until after she has actually left the zoo.

Llanbobl Sun 12-May-13 10:16:51

So all of you who use the "he won't be three until they've left" argument - does that mean no cards, gifts or cakes until the actual time of birth or later - think if all those birthday parties at 9:54pm - all those tired kids out of a routine wink

IMO the OP wants to fell justified in teaching her son that lying is acceptable if it saves money. If they (or anyone else) don't want to pay the admission -then don't go or find somewhere cheaper.

Delayingtactic Sun 12-May-13 10:49:19

Bloody hell I've just checked for Chester zoo and it leaps from free to £15. That's incredibly steep. Surely it's better to have more staged tickets as people would be more inclined to go.

Hmm DS is already in 3-4 clothes but is actually only 2. I might have to take birth certificate!

Samu2 Sun 12-May-13 10:53:07

YANBU

My children are very small for their ages, it means I can often pretend they are younger and get money off.

I haven't robbed a bank or any little old ladies yet!!

HoneyDragon Sun 12-May-13 10:54:04

It starts of with stealing entry. Before you know it you're lifting the the penguins and selling them out the boot in dark alleyways.

You are heading for a life of Zoolilogical criminality sad

mrsjay Sun 12-May-13 10:54:58

they all do it Edinburgh zoo is free to £11.50

GretaGarbage Sun 12-May-13 10:57:15

We took DS to Alton Towers when he was four, and stayed in a hotel which gave free tickets to under four.

DS- I am four today grin

Manager - how lovely, free ticket it is grin

Ds - but I am not three, am I mum?

Me and manager as one - for today you are!

mrsjay Sun 12-May-13 10:58:51

*Ds - but I am not three, am I mum?

Me and manager as one - for today you are!*

grin

McNewPants2013 Sun 12-May-13 11:18:33

Twycross zoo is a good day out, out of all the animals my dc where more intrested in the dinosaurs.

I would do it

mrsjay Sun 12-May-13 11:20:48

how big is the t rex enclosure wink

Loupee Sun 12-May-13 11:24:34

We are going on holiday 2 weeks after DS turns 1. We have been looking at a glass bottomed boat trip while we are there. Under one's are free, 1-12 are £12 and 13 up are £15.
If anyone asks DS will be under one, and there will be 5 paying adults. I will not feel guilty.

NonnyMuss Sun 12-May-13 11:25:42

Guy on the ticket desk at Stirling Castle refused to take payment for our twins, kept saying 'they're definitely under 5, aren't they? wink '

They were 7 at the time and I tried and tried to pay, I really did.

We had to go and spend a fortune at the cafe to compensate for our thieving, or the guilt would have eaten away at me. The cakes were seriously nice.

Sirzy Sun 12-May-13 11:27:07

I wish places had more staged approaches to admission for children, to jump from free to £20 or whatever is madness.

I think a "pay your age" approach would be ideal up to about 10 or until you reached the normal full price.

IrritatingInfinity Sun 12-May-13 11:30:00

I think I fancy buying a new fancy handbag today. It's not on sale and I know they mark the bags up several hundred percent over what it cost them to make. That is a complete rip off if you ask me. So I am going to pay for half of the bag with genuine bank notes and the other half with fake notes. That seems fair doesn't it. They will still be making a profit on the handbag and I wouldn't have bought anything if I had had to pay full price. I see it as a win-win situation.

The shop is always busy and they have to open it anyway so I am not creating any extra costs for them.

Sounds perfectly reasonable to me hmm

waikikamookau Sun 12-May-13 11:30:46

our local zoo had a deal once when children were free under a metre.

that daft idea didn't last long.
obviously had complaints from parents of taller children. grin

mrsjay Sun 12-May-13 11:30:48

there isn't much difference int he level of enjoyment from a 2 year old and a 4year old is there they are going to look at stuff be a bit bored look at more stuff wander off want the toilet , say they are hungry and then back to looking at stuff grin

McNewPants2013 Sun 12-May-13 11:31:07

Thankfully not that big as an adult but to my small DC it was huge lol

waikikamookau Sun 12-May-13 11:31:45

you would be mad to pay the full price on his actual birthday op imo.

Graceparkhill Sun 12-May-13 11:32:12

Years and years ago I was 11 and my dad took me to the pictures( an unheard of treat for my birthday). This was the one and only time- things were fairly frugal when I was growing up.

The cut off point for a child's ticket was under 11 and the cashier tried to sell my dad one but he insisted on paying full price and telling the cashier that it was my 11 th birthday.

Haven't thought of this for years. I am 54 now and dad has been dead for nearly 20 years but I fondly remember his pride in me and how pleased I was to be considered "grown up".

Sirzy Sun 12-May-13 11:34:32

I don't mind the pay by height, DS is 3.5 and won't be over 1m for ages. My nephew on the other hand was over a meter by the time he was 2 so such systems really annoy my sister (and understandably)

The only time pay by height is fair is if they have a lot of rides which children under that height wont be able to use

mrsjay Sun 12-May-13 11:37:20

Thankfully not that big as an adult but to my small DC it was huge lol

grin

oh and the handbag senario not many 3 year olds like a handbag do they, it isn't the same thing ,

mrsjay Sun 12-May-13 11:37:55

Alton towers used to do it by height for the rides (I think)

K8Middleton Sun 12-May-13 11:38:48

Yanbu. It is a ridiculous mark up. Take him for a pound with impunity grin

McNewPants2013 Sun 12-May-13 11:50:22

Isn't it better they are going.

I mean if its the difference of not going, then the zoo will lose out on £60+

mrsjay Sun 12-May-13 11:52:26

exactly McNew its not as if they are all jumping over the fence or anything,

insancerre Sun 12-May-13 11:57:52

YANBU
Do it for as long as you can get away with it.
DD is 16 and I resent paying full fare on the bus because she is still at school.

mrsjay Sun 12-May-13 11:59:30

DD is 16 and I resent paying full fare on the bus because she is still at school.

off topic but dd had a transport card when she was still at school at 16 they pay a 3rd which is better i suppose,

ILikeBirds Sun 12-May-13 12:06:13

A national trust lady was once trying to sell us a year long membership and was quoting the under 25s prices. I replied I'd certainly join at that price but unfortunately I was 28 and my OH was 33. She told me I should just lie about my age as they have no procedure for checking age before selling a membership!

madammoose Sun 12-May-13 12:45:58

I like the pay your age idea up to maybe 12.

I'm not sure the not paying and justifying it by spending in the gift shop, or overpriced food & drinks, holds water. Surely if you have the money to do that, paying the correct entrance fee wouldn't be a problem?

HoneyDragon Sun 12-May-13 12:52:45

Dunno. If the Handbag is going to be reduced by a third the next day....

Also legally you turn an age at midnight (that is 00:00.01) on the anniversary of the day of your birth. So this "he is two until bedtime stuff is pretty weak grin wink

TooMuchRain Sun 12-May-13 18:29:23

I'm not sure the not paying and justifying it by spending in the gift shop, or overpriced food & drinks, holds water. Surely if you have the money to do that, paying the correct entrance fee wouldn't be a problem?

Exactly what I was thinking

JustinBiebermakesmevom Sun 12-May-13 18:49:09

MrRected and Llanbol - you're going to be pretty lonely up in heaven ! grin

Do it! Do it! Do it! (And remember to post a link of your mug shot so we recognise you on Crimewatch when you've turned into a master criminal)

TooMuchRain - See where you're coming from but I have been in the position of going to fun parks etc with the kids and having an exact budget of £40 given to me by the grandparents. If I had paid the correct entry fee for myself (which I did) DH (which I did) and DS (which I didn't) and then bought lunch then neither DS or DD would have been able to get a pressie from the shop.....So it's not as simple as you've made it sound.

IrritatingInfinity Sun 12-May-13 19:01:24

Do it if you want to but don't try to justify it as being OK because of X, Y or Z. 'Own' your decision grin

You are depriving the company of income which is wrong.

Is it technically stealing though? Do any lawyers know the answer?
Maybe it is just trespass.......? hmm

BTW I am not saying I behave perfectly but if I do something wrong I don't try to justify it IYSWIM.

JustinBiebermakesmevom Sun 12-May-13 19:13:14

Good point Irritating - I will happily lie and deceive if it means I can afford to buy DCs a toy in the gift shop...my conscience is clear.

IrritatingInfinity Sun 12-May-13 19:43:33

JustinBeiber

That's it, as long as you are clear what you are doing and don't pretend it is something it is not.

You should be honest about your dishonesty grin

JustinBiebermakesmevom Sun 12-May-13 19:45:11

I like that comment....I'm the most honest liar you'll ever come across grin

hwjm1945 Sun 12-May-13 19:50:53

Probably fraud,poss fraudulent misrepresentation.Doubt anyone will sue you. Just pay......

miffybun73 Sun 12-May-13 19:52:27

Of course YANBU, but I couldn't do it.

I'd want to share that it was his birthday and would just feel deceitful, my blushing would probably give it away too.

I think that I'm just too much of a goody goody smile

fuzzpig Sun 12-May-13 20:12:42

OP you should not have posted about where you are going. Somebody might phone Twycross and give them a tip-off! grin

We went to a wedding on DD's 5th birthday, I told the ticket guy at the cashier she was 5 today, and he said "oh, she's 5 tomorrow you say? smile"... I repeated thinking he had misheard. Took several minutes and a withering look before I realised he was giving me a cheaper fare! blush Felt paranoid though.

YNK Sun 12-May-13 20:23:09

I took my kids out for a meal on the eve of DS's 18th (they were going out with their dad the following day.
When I asked if my DS wanted a pint my DD (12) said in a very loud voice " but he's not 18 until tomorrow!"

whenitrainsitpours Sun 12-May-13 20:59:39

I say do it! Save yourself some money and you can spend it on something else. My dcs are quiet small built and my dd who is very small frame as passed for free on our city bus for ages. She is now 6 turning 7 in a month and still travels for free. Bus driver never asked how old she was. I think when 5 they have to start paying. No shame no gain! No I will start paying soon but dont see the point when you can get away with it! Everything cost so much already! Enjoy your day!

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