To think Victoria Beckham really has it all? Baby Harper is too adorable for words

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sunnywindysunday Mon 06-May-13 17:53:47

including her other kids.

I don't know if it's pretty shallow (but I like fancy stuff grin) but I can't see many women refusing her life and wardrobe. I could do without the fame - have no interest in that at all.

VB has managed to:

- Stay thin (something a lot of women would kill for)
- All her children, esp Harper are adorable. No dodgy looking kids for her brood
- So much money. Never ever has to worry about providing for her kids
- She's attractive
- Her Husband is pretty cool.
- She has family support

She must know she has a pretty enviable life!

She makes having a family SO attractive. On the streets, I just see harassed parents.

HollyBerryBush Mon 06-May-13 17:56:32

I wouldn't want her life.

A paparazzi would have his long lens shoved up his rectal passage quicker than you could say airmiles-give-you-DVT.

LadyVoldemort Mon 06-May-13 17:58:12

I like her but am in no way jealous of her. I'd hate the pressure to stay so thin, be expected to wear heels all the time, wear uncomfortable tight clothes (give me a hoodie and jeans any day!).
Does having attractive children really make life better?

squoosh Mon 06-May-13 17:58:24

God I'd hate to be famous. Hate, hate, hate it.

All the riches and cute kids in the world wouldn't be worth it for me.

Great to have that kind of financial freedom though.

Sparhawk Mon 06-May-13 17:58:47

Your whole post is incredibly shallow 'no dodgy looking kids' really????

She doesn't have a faithful husband and she never looks happy.

sunnywindysunday Mon 06-May-13 18:01:21

Yes no dodgy looking kids. What's so shallow about saying that? I would still be thinking it.

I have already said the fame aspect doesn't appeal and it probably wouldn't appeal to the majority of women. The other aspect of her life, I reckon more women would want her life than they are prepared to say so.

HollyBerryBush Mon 06-May-13 18:01:27

VB is one of those women I happen to like, despite bad press, but for the love of god, I'd be wanting to feed her because she looks so frail.

squoosh Mon 06-May-13 18:02:17

I can honestly say I've never envied VB her lifestyle.

sunnywindysunday Mon 06-May-13 18:02:23

80 per cent of women on here probably have unfaithful husbands and empty pockets. She seems to be dealing with her hubby just fine.

lauriedriver Mon 06-May-13 18:02:36

On the streets the harassed parents you see are probably working 50hrs a week for minimum wage & scrimping to pay the mortgage (us).

the beckhams don't have them kinda problems

squoosh Mon 06-May-13 18:03:37

80% of women have unfaithful husbands? No wonder you're envying celebs their trinkets if that's your worldview.

McNewPants2013 Mon 06-May-13 18:03:50

I find your post quite shallow.

Could you care to elebrate on dodgy looking kids.

McBalls Mon 06-May-13 18:03:56

I imagine she is very happy, I hope she is. I've a rather large soft spot for the the Beckhams.

HollyBerryBush Mon 06-May-13 18:04:37

Show me a picture of her fitted kitchen, then I'll tell you if I want to be her grin

Now, that's shallow.

But I wouldn't want to be married to DB, that girly voice, none too bright, and he's coloured himself in. If you saw that in a beany hat wandering through Romford market, you'd be pulling your handbag real close

LadyVoldemort Mon 06-May-13 18:04:45

Would you really want to be that thin though? I mean I know you think it looks good but imagine how little you'd have to eat. She must be restricting her diet every day of her life, doesn't sound fun to me.

threesypeesy Mon 06-May-13 18:04:50

I Love vb shes a beautiful woman with a great figure, career, money, and 4 gorgeous children and db!!!

She always looks amazing and she's never without haper who its as cute as a button. She is happy I think and apparently has a fantastic sense of humour.

She seems to have balanced every aspect of her life well and deserves everything shes achieved as she has put the work in and came far from hef spice girl days

VonHerrBurton Mon 06-May-13 18:04:52

Id rather have my dc and dh - but her money. Keep your fame, no thanks.

You do sound shallow because of the emphasis on looks. If you have read her books, you'd know she has a pretty low opinion of her own looks and is very insecure. All that glitters is not gold.

David is pretty bloody gorgeous

Xales Mon 06-May-13 18:04:59

A H who played away and half the world knows about it.

Perpetual rumours about who he is now shagging/has shagged male and female.

Pictures of herself plastered all over the papers always commenting what a miserable bitch she is and maybe she should smile.

Two of the most stupid half football fake tits. Thank god she got rid of them.

Not for me thank you.

lauriedriver Mon 06-May-13 18:05:36

80%!! What bit of thin air did you conjure that figure up from?

EeyoreIsh Mon 06-May-13 18:07:30

She must never eat a proper meal, and she does work really hard for what she has although I know people who work really hard for an awful lot less

I'd far rather have my life than you very much. my DH is far sexier than DB.

ShellyBoobs Mon 06-May-13 18:08:20

I think talentless, fame-seeking, vacuous knobber probably covers what I think of VB.

Harper is VERY cute, though. I'll give you that one.


Ledkr Mon 06-May-13 18:08:32

Aren't all put children beautiful? I don't look at her kids and think anything but when I look at mine they look like angels.
I also had the courage and savvy to dump my husband when he cheated I didn't have to hang off his arm grinning like a Cheshire Cat to prove anything. So no I wouldn't swap for the world

HollyBerryBush Mon 06-May-13 18:08:40

To be fair, the OP said 80% on here not 80% generally.

Ledkr Mon 06-May-13 18:09:03

Our not put

squoosh Mon 06-May-13 18:09:14

Is MN a special kind of cheating victim demographic?

everlong Mon 06-May-13 18:10:14

I like VB.

She seems like a lovely mother, she works hard, from the rare interview I've seen she's very dry and humorous. I reckon in RL I would like her.

However I don't think her weight maintenance is effortless. She's not naturally gamine. I reckon her body takes a lot effort to stay like that.

Her relationship with DB is not known behind the scenes. I'm not 100% convinced the pair are head over heels.

But on the front of it they have a perfect life. Their are gorgeous, well behaved in the public eyes and look very happy.

And have to say I love VB's style and how she dresses Harper.

Longdistance Mon 06-May-13 18:10:18

She has and unfaithful thanks.

kerstina Mon 06-May-13 18:10:25

She pays a high price for the life she has. The only thing I envy is an adorable DD as I have an adorable DS. Would like both incase people misinterpret that.

googlyeyes Mon 06-May-13 18:10:59

I wouldn't swap lives with VB in a million years.

She is achingly thin, which isn't her natural body shape and must be a punishing physique to maintain. In fact it must rule her whole life. I wouldn't want to restrict my diet to that extreme degree for anything in the world

everlong Mon 06-May-13 18:11:02


lauriedriver Mon 06-May-13 18:12:28

Oh sorry I thought she meant 80% in real bad. Didn't realise that so many on here had cheating husbands, I missed that survey :-)

If you saw that in a beany hat wandering through Romford market, you'd be pulling your handbag real close

Hahahahahahahahahahaha grin smile grin

I have often said that DB wouldn't look out of place serving burgers in Mcdonalds*

*not that there's anything wrong with working in Mcdonalds grin

Ledkr Mon 06-May-13 18:12:30

Yes and dh is way sexier than db and can string an intelligent sentence together.
I bet she doesn't look all that nice naked either. I've got skinny friends who look fab in jeans but awful naked.

fancyabakeoff Mon 06-May-13 18:15:30

Nope. Baby Harper is no more adorable than all the beautiful babies out there.

HollyBerryBush Mon 06-May-13 18:16:07

I't wasn't a survey laurie just a rough count of relationships threads (Sorry relationships board, not making light of your problems)

Southeastdweller Mon 06-May-13 18:19:00

Very shallow and naive post.

everlong Mon 06-May-13 18:19:56


Call DB what you like but he's one hawt dawg.

loofet Mon 06-May-13 18:20:33


She isn't naturally that thin, you only have to look at the early spice girl days to see this. She was slim but i'd say more a size 8/10 than a 4! So she clearly doesn't eat very much and what she will eat will probably be very restricted- I suspect no or very little carbs and probably no gluten. She probably feels enormous pressure to stay that thin because she's made it 'her look' now and if she dared to gain weight she'd be hounded for it.

She has to always worry about how she looks, even doing a menial task like taking the DC to school. I mean, you know how you feel when you know people are going to be taking pictures- you feel the need to dress up, do make up etc, she feels like that every day. She has to wear awfully uncomfortable clothes too. She's constantly followed around, cameras being poked and prodded in her face, camera flashed in her and her DCs eyes, tens of men shouting in her face etc. I wouldn't want that for all the money in the world.

She has no privacy! Everything she does or has done is out there for the world to see.

So yeah, she might have millions in the bank, beautiful kids and a 'handsome' (I still don't see it!) husband but she pays a big price for it. I love VB fwiw but I don't envy her.

ChangeNameToday Mon 06-May-13 18:21:06

I don't envy her because I think she must have incredibly low self-esteem. The gub on her, the self-conscious face-touching, the ridiculous outfits she must spend all morning planning and executing. Who'd want to live like that? So fame-hungry, so desperate for attention. It's to be pitied surely?

And I never understand why people think she's such a great mother either. How on earth would anyone other than her nearest and dearest know this? Because you see a papped shot of her holding her daughter whilst mincing from car to hotel?

I do wonder what the dynamic in that family will be like when Harper hits her teens and weighs more than her mother. If Harper decides she wants to live off a cup of endamame beans a day too and hone the skeletal look her mother sports, will that be ok?

lauriedriver Mon 06-May-13 18:21:59

Hate being the nit picker that picks at one point but that does seem a helluva high number. I think I'll make a quick exit out of here in case it's catching & my other half runs of with some wee skank :-)

I think it's pretty off to attack a woman for her body. 'Too thin' is as vile as saying 'too fat'.

VB is a successful businesswoman with a long lasting marriage and four children who are visibly cherished. She has a nice life. So do many. many other women and in common with them if you asked her to choose between the money and the kids you know she would say the same as any of us.

Samu2 Mon 06-May-13 18:23:31

She looks miserable and she looks like she suffers with a SD. She is painfully thin, not something most women I know aspire too.

everlong Mon 06-May-13 18:25:16


HollyBerryBush Mon 06-May-13 18:25:35

I did read VB rarely smiles as she had very wonky teeth as a child, hence the dour pose all the time as a self defence mechanism, so she doesn't open her moth. We all have one thing we don't like about ourselves, and even though she's had her teeth fixed, that insecurity will stay with you

I think they are well balanced parents actually. They do strike me as "warrevah" parents in that they won't pressurise their children to conform; the only expectation I've ever read about is that they demand good manners. Which is no bad thing is it?

ChangeNameToday Mon 06-May-13 18:26:53

All that about no privacy - they have chosen that. Plenty of celebs bigger than them do not get papped every day, they have deliberately turned themselves into a circus and are reaping what they sowed.

Samu2 Mon 06-May-13 18:28:09

Do people really think that is the kind of slim most people wish they could be?

I thought she was stunning in The Spice Girls but she looks ill to me sad

deepfriedsage Mon 06-May-13 18:28:10

Her children are no cuter than any others you see out and about.

Her husband cheats and has a girlie voice.

She seems like a very needy attention seeking average talented average looking woman who got lucky.

You never see other kids their parents don't tip off the paps and get faces pixilated unlike the Beckhams, oh and they use the buggy or their child walks, except Suri.

Samu2 Mon 06-May-13 18:28:23

Sorry, SD= ED.

Nagoo Mon 06-May-13 18:28:55

I am a bit hmm about 'dodgy looking kids' as well.

VB looks good, has handsome husband and family and job she likes. So there's a lot for us to see and envy, but we only know a tiny facet of her life.

Comparison does you no good at all.

everlong Mon 06-May-13 18:30:40

Ah ok thanks samu. Yes I agree.

I do her boys are very cute, cheeky chaps. Harper however to me utterly edible. Those chubby legs and cheeks and that beautiful face.

Samu2 Mon 06-May-13 18:30:58

Was it actually proven that David had an affair?

Tailtwister Mon 06-May-13 18:31:00

You never truly know what someone's life is like. Yes, she does have a great life on the face of things, but I wouldn't be too quick to envy her. Fame has it's advantages that's true, but imagine be photographed everywhere you go. It must be pretty frustrating at best. Terrifying at worst. Not being able to protect your children from that must be very hard.

squoosh Mon 06-May-13 18:31:58

It wasn't announced by their PR people that he'd had an affair but all declarations that they would sue the newspaper were quietly dropped.

everlong Mon 06-May-13 18:34:53

I've heard it from people on MN who claim to know but also from someone in RL that he's had numerous affairs. Obviously the only people who know are the Beckhams.

Viviennemary Mon 06-May-13 18:36:24

I don't think I'd envy somebody in the public eye all the time.

AThingInYourLife Mon 06-May-13 18:38:30

I love how when sk

HollyBerryBush Mon 06-May-13 18:40:40

DHs mate is in show business; he's a PA to various people things I could tell you about Robbie Williams He was at one time a PA to a then famous dolly bird who alleged she was having a fling with DB. It's one that has never hit the papers. She is no longer famous.

All very third hand I grant you.

AThingInYourLife Mon 06-May-13 18:40:45

I love how when skinny malinks VB is carrying big, chubby Harper around it looks like an elf trying to carry a baby giant.

FarBetterNow Mon 06-May-13 18:40:50

Rebecca Loos would have sued by VB if it wasn't true.
VB is too thin. She will have health problems in the future because of it.

I don't think DB is good looking.
I think he is weedy.

No, she can keep her life and her bunions.

MamaMary Mon 06-May-13 18:41:01

Yes, David admitted sleeping with the nanny.

VB is to be pitied, not envied. Her life must be a misery, having to starve herself to stay a certain weight and never feeling free or relaxed enough to wear comfortable shoes and clothing, even if she's just nipping out with the kids or at a football game.

She always looks miserable to me, anyway. And noone who is married to a cheat is to be envied, ever sad

sunnywindysunday Mon 06-May-13 18:43:01

the 80 per cent remark is that his infidelity has not broken them just like other couple where infidelity has not broken them. Doesn't mean her life is not nice. And if I am shallow, so be it. It's a lifestyle MINUS the fame that I like.

The dodgy looking kids comment I knew would raise an eyebrow. I think she has a good looking set of kids, I can't say that for any other celeb tbh. I rarely notice kids but her Harper makes me smile. I have just started to notice her boys because of of her little girl and have noticed that they're all pretty cute.

And of course I realise that the women has serious money and help with the kids so not compering her to the ordinary everyday woman incl myself but I can still admire her lifestyle.

A recent thread on here someone called the Beckham chavs and I thought 'how?!'

sunnywindysunday Mon 06-May-13 18:46:45

Lady, no I wouldn't want to be that thin (she has no butt)because I am already thin (size 6/8) but in my culture (Brazil) thinness is not desired. Only western world wants their women looking like undeveloped boys. I would kill to get to a 12/14, just no cellulite

I would hate to be VB. I don't think her DH or children are any more handsome than anyone else's either. confused

IMO Peaches Geldof has the cutest baby-Astala.

kelda Mon 06-May-13 18:49:36

Yes she does have it all. But not because she has 'no dodgy looking kids' or is thin.

But because she is very successful in her own right and has a happy family as well.

Springdiva Mon 06-May-13 18:52:25

My DDs were much cuter than Harper!

MoodyDidIt Mon 06-May-13 18:53:47

i wouldnt want her life

i wouldnt mind the money ;) but the pressure to stay thin, i would hate it, i am sorry but i doubt she ever eats a square meal

MoodyDidIt Mon 06-May-13 18:56:27

i wouldnt want her life

i wouldnt mind the money ;) but the pressure to stay thin, i would hate it, i am sorry but i doubt she ever eats a square meal

deepfriedsage Mon 06-May-13 18:57:35

The Beckhams never did sue over cheating allegations, which to me means there was evidence of an affair and they had no case to sue.

crashdoll Mon 06-May-13 18:58:38

YABU. There's more to life than having beautiful children and lots of money.

Branleuse Mon 06-May-13 18:59:41

ive never met vb or db or baby harper, and I certainly wouldnt decide to envy someone based on what they look like ffs.

cyclingtreadworn Mon 06-May-13 19:01:08

She must feel constantly hungry. Probably thinks about food all the time. How miserable that must be.

exoticfruits Mon 06-May-13 19:02:05

I wouldn't want to swap- in fact I would hate it.

I have more respect for celebrities who keep their children out of the public eye TBH. I have said this before on a VB thread and got a bit flamed but I can't remember why. grin

exoticfruits Mon 06-May-13 19:04:13

Same here- if I was famous I would keep my children right out of the public eye.

MoodyDidIt Mon 06-May-13 19:04:20

whoops no idea why that posted twice :S

ziggystarrust Mon 06-May-13 19:05:49

can't she afford a buggy, always lugging harper around, wearing giant heels - no wonder she looks miserable!

If you saw a photo of the Beckham children without their parents you would know them straight away.

I have no clue what Gwynnie and Chris Martin's children look like, and in every article their faces are pixelated.

I think they are a brand more than anything else and have a good team behind them to maintain this brand image which brings them in a lot of money.

I would not want her life at all. She always appears troubled tome and seemingly has few if any female friends, more like plenty of hangers on and acquaintances.

Whether they have a good marriage is only something that they know ultimately. Personally I do not think they look happy together and she is the one who rules the roost; he goes along with her wishes. He is also now in the twilight of his sporting career whilst hers is in the ascendency; that gives her power. If they are not happy behind closed doors the children will suffer emotionally as a result.

everlong Mon 06-May-13 19:07:28

Out of the public eye aka dumped with a nanny or whoever?

The Beckham kids are in the public eye because their parents choose to keep them together as a family as much as possible, also they seem to strive to maintain a normal as possible childhood. Playing football, on the beach, shopping, watching basketball. Like kids should.

Nothing wrong with that.

Where do you think they should be hidden?

squoosh Mon 06-May-13 19:08:16

As irritating as they are at least Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin always have their kids faces pixelated in paparazzi shots.

I'd imagine it could be quite stressful being the well known child of an A List celeb pairing.

Anywhere ever. grin How do other celebrities manage it?

squoosh Mon 06-May-13 19:09:12

X post with Sparkling!

everlong Mon 06-May-13 19:13:29

I think the likes of CM probably do take their dc around with them it's just that they're not papped as much so we don't get it shoved in our faces.

The Beckhams are in the papers every day.

Why don't the Beckham lot have their faces pixelated?

Jenny0505 Mon 06-May-13 19:15:43

I think she comes accross warm and funny in interviews. What's that saying 'if you've got nothing nice to say come and sit beside me'.

As for pitying her, there are plenty of women with mediocre husbands on MN who stand by them when they cheat. She chose to stick with her marriage and plenty of mumsnetters have done that.

She's not the only woman who's continually watching her weight. I do that! and I've no husband, or career, or em, money!

So, lol at pitying her.

squoosh Mon 06-May-13 19:15:46

But if you think of someone like JK Rowling, she has a complete blackout on pics of her kids in the press.

Anyway......a worry I'm unlikely ever to have whether or not to have a media ban on photos of my sprogs!

everlong Mon 06-May-13 19:16:01

I don't know tbh.

Jenny0505 Mon 06-May-13 19:17:17

Can you only do the pixelated thing if the children are living in europe? i don't know if children who live in america can have their faces pixelated. different laws. i sn't that why gwyneth moved ot uk?

I have never seen Davina McCall's children. Or Holly Willoughby's. I haven't seen Fearne Cotton's baby either. How do they manage it.

Altinkum Mon 06-May-13 19:18:24

How on earth is her post shallow?

Repeatedlydoingthetwist Mon 06-May-13 19:18:28

She doesn't seem to have any friends though. That's what makes me feel sad for her. Yeah she has a gorgeous husband, 4 adorable kids, an amazing job and more money than she could use in a lifetime, but I just can't see her sat in a beer garden over a pint of Bulmers putting the world to rights.

squoosh Mon 06-May-13 19:18:54

Ewan McGregor's kids have never been seen and his must be teens by now. It can be done, just depends on whether you want to or not.

pickledginger Mon 06-May-13 19:20:14

Victoria Beckham is fine.

Your OP is shallow and unpleasant and really doesn't show you in a very good light.

everlong Mon 06-May-13 19:20:36

But DM isn't jetting in and out of the UK, America, Paris. And she doesn't have the same pull as the Beckhams. It's pretty obvious why many aren't papped. They don't attract the attention. Self explanatory really.

Jenny0505 Mon 06-May-13 19:21:14

i can see that actually! i reckon she's got lots of opinons. sure if you see her interviewed, the opinions are bursting out of her. It's only lately that she plays the pr game. and if i were her (designer) I wouldn't touch a buggy with a ten foot pole either!! ANd say what you like about her but her clothes are to die for. I want a nice VB guna.

squoosh Mon 06-May-13 19:21:45

No I think it's definitely down to the lawyers and how they're instructed. Jude Law's kids are always pixelated too.

Jenny0505 Mon 06-May-13 19:23:22

isn't she friends with eva longoria, tana ramsey to name two off the top of my head.

not that i'm fighting her battles for her but i don't get why people love to slag her off so much.

squoosh Mon 06-May-13 19:24:49

I think her bf is her sister. I'm sure being that famous would make you a bit cautious around people who are desperate to be your friend.

I just don't get the interest in her I think, or the Beckhams generally. Or why she is permanently being papped.

Jenny0505 Mon 06-May-13 19:26:16

yeh! bit like kate M.

Women can#t win. career, no career, sahm, waity, nanny, buggy, no buggy..........

alicetrefusis Mon 06-May-13 19:31:51

She looks like a very depressed and skeletal avatar.

I don't think any of her children are particularly attractive. ( not that that matters really) And they all have terrible names.

They both sound very, very stupid. (again not their fault)

So no I don't think she has it all, at all.

( pulls up judgey-pants and runs for hills)

mrsjay Mon 06-May-13 19:33:24

I wouldnt want her clothes fashion isnt my thing tbh I would hate to worry about what I wear and all our children are beautiful hers are no prettier than anybodies, I dont understand celeb worship I am sure she is a lovely woman but ...

Fleecyslippers Mon 06-May-13 19:34:21

I remember seeing a spice girls documentary years ago and it featured VB crawling round on her hands and knees after a hysterically giggling, also crawling, toddler. she just seemed like such a 'normal' mum. I really warmed to her then and I don't think she deserves the crap she gets.

mrsjay Mon 06-May-13 19:35:10

I saw CM and one of his pixalted children and she was eating crisps bet gwinnie had to have a lie down after that grin

ifyouletmefinish Mon 06-May-13 19:35:50

We caught a flight with vb - and she was a really hands on, attentive mum to her boys. They were so well mannered and sweet. They were in first class with her - and the nannies were in business. Vb did have three outfit changes but also was the one getting her boys food and taking care of them in the lounge. She looked like a fabulous, loving mother.

mrsjay Mon 06-May-13 19:36:12

is being uber thin the top of everybdoies wish list ?

woopsidaisy Mon 06-May-13 19:36:17

Victoria Beckham has it all?! She admitted that she had * never* read a book. NEVER READ A BOOK!!!!!
And let's take a glance back at her pre fashion designer days shall we? In all her wagdom. It is comical to see her then. Fake boobs-which she denied having confused, fake hair, fake talon nails, David Dickinson fake tan and all those gorgeous fake photos of her and David. You know, those staged ones where he is kissing her on the nose 'spontaneously'.
And those interviews!! Wonderful. You can just tell that she has rehersed every answer a hundred times. Including the 'hilarious humour' bit. She is forever telling everyone how funny she is, but she does an amazing job of hiding it?! She has never said anything even vaguely interesting.
She starves herself to be thin. She is desparate for us to believe that it is natural. But we all know that it isn't. She starves for that. She had surgery -no issue to any of us, none of our business. But then she denied she had had implants. When it was glaringly obvious she had!! Again so pathetically desparate for people to believe that she is 'really like that' .

However she does appear relatively nice, and her kids seem well behaved.
But she is still a twat and I would never wish to be her.

everlong Mon 06-May-13 19:37:50

Her clothes ( fashion label ) are actually beautiful. Very feminine, womanly. I have nowhere to go to wear them and I'd probably need to lose 2 stone to fit in them but I like them.

mrsjay Mon 06-May-13 19:38:18

say what you feel woop dont hold back now wink

I like her and I don't usually like celebs at all, I don't envy her life though. Harder does look sweet, but I feel for her kids living their life under such scrutiny.

everlong Mon 06-May-13 19:39:20

A twat woopsie?

Fucking lovely you are not

specialsubject Mon 06-May-13 19:39:32

she seems to have quite a good business head as she sells horrendous clothes for big money.

she clearly starves and as a result looks awful. At least she feeds her kids. Shame on her for the abuse of her health by not eating enough. So many people are ill, and those who have health destroy it in the name of fashion.

Badvoc Mon 06-May-13 19:39:54

I can assure you I in no way want to be VB.
She is someone who is proud of her ignorance (I have never read a book) and I despise that.
And she has given her kids ridiculous names.
Other than that, I am sure she is lovely.

stargirl1701 Mon 06-May-13 19:40:33

Dear god, NO! I can't imagine anything worse than being VB. I don't think she looks attractive at all. She seems dreadfully unhappy most of the time. I love my life. I wouldn't want hers. Ugh.

alicetrefusis Mon 06-May-13 19:43:55

What Badvoc said.
How utterly depressing that this woman is held up as some sort of role model for young women.
She has never read a book, for fuck's sake?

mrsjay Mon 06-May-13 19:45:27

but least she can fit into her dress and when is she going to stop pouting who taught her that just stop it victoria

Xmasbaby11 Mon 06-May-13 19:46:29

not a role model for me. Not really interested in that sort of person.

Jenny0505 Mon 06-May-13 19:46:57

Her dresses are lovely.

everlong Mon 06-May-13 19:48:48

I find it sad that someone that has never been offensive, works hard, is a good mother can be ripped apart by other women.

What in gods name has she done that's so effing bad?

FreudiansSlipper Mon 06-May-13 19:49:50

would i want to flaunt my children to the press at every given opportunity no thank you

and i would prefer a faithfull husband

not sure living such a public life makes you happy what happens when no one is interested

woopsidaisy Mon 06-May-13 19:55:02

I don't think calling her a twat is awful, everlong.I could call her a lot worse. To me she is a twat.
You swore not me.
YesMrsjay there is something about her that just..... Irritates the life out of me!!! The thing is, I don't want to dislike her, she just makes it so easy to dislike her. With all the posing and pouting!! Stop it!!!!!!

mrsjay Mon 06-May-13 19:55:28

she hasnt done anything wrong but personally i dont think she has done anything right either she was in the spicegirls and married a footballer, and became a celeb, <shrug> she isn't somebody to be admired imo but I am not really into heroine worship

woopsidaisy Mon 06-May-13 19:55:41

Where does one start?

Sugarice Mon 06-May-13 19:56:40

What do you mean she's never read a book??

David is on record that Harper was named after Vic's favourite author Harper Lee, who wrote 'To kill a mocking bird', that story of racism and social tension in the deep south.

I can just see VB enthralled by that wink, no tittering at the back there!!

ParsleyTheLioness Mon 06-May-13 19:58:26

Akissisnotacontract made my point before I got to do it. She has a husband who can't keep it in his pants, and sounds a ten year old girl to boot...

mrsjay Mon 06-May-13 19:58:31

David is on record that Harper was named after Vic's favourite author Harper Lee, who wrote 'To kill a mocking bird', that story of racism and social tension in the deep south.

not Harper on wizards of waverly place like has been rumoured she is named after grin

woopsidaisy Mon 06-May-13 19:58:44

She was the original vacuous wag, and proud of it. I am not saying she is horrible, she seems nice. But she is no role model, IMO.
I don't spend my life shredding women as a rule, but she puts herself out there. Fame is oxygen to her. She loves it.
She is obsessed by her appearance, and her weight. Not good traits in a role model.

I thought it was Wizards of Waverley Place too. The Seven bit is unforgiveable.

everlong Mon 06-May-13 20:01:08

Why did she swear at you?

lougle Mon 06-May-13 20:03:18

This thread is depressing. That a woman can be torn apart just for being famous. It's grim.

woopsidaisy Mon 06-May-13 20:03:33

Sugarice, grin.

Sugarice Mon 06-May-13 20:06:43

I don't mind vb but I did titter about the Harper Lee story, I just don't buy it since she once said novels aren't her thing.

She is in a business obsessed with appearance and weight but she seems happy to be the face of her brand so makes the sacrifices she thinks are needed to maintain the press interest.

woopsidaisy Mon 06-May-13 20:07:50

lougle have you read the thread? Who has torn into her for being famous?
I have stated that I think she seems nice, but also ignorant-as she herself said she had never read a book. I think she starves herself to look good, and is obsessed by her appearance. I also said she seems like a good mum.
I don't think she is to be envied. I don't think she is a good role model. Just because she is rich and famous and a woman do I have to like her? She annoys me. There was a thread about her. I said how I feel.
Do you support and admireall women who are famous? confused

everlong Mon 06-May-13 20:09:55

woopsi why did she swear at you?

Why do VB threads always go really odd? Anyone who doesn't have lovely things to say gets accused of being envious, and get flamed. I don't get it.

TheBigJessie Mon 06-May-13 20:12:03

The money's nice. Would like the money. ButIi have to say I love my children who are better than anyone else's ever and my own husband.

If I could have any woman's life, I wouldn't want hers. Followed by the press, having to abstain from avocadoes because of the fat content, being torn apart for being too thin, yet being aware that gaining a single pound would be covered by the same journalists. No. Just no.

I wouldn't have the mental strength to withstand it.

scarlettsmummy2 Mon 06-May-13 20:13:23

Yet she still manages to look miserable and vain....,

squoosh Mon 06-May-13 20:14:05

VB generally escapes my wrath, if not an occasional eye roll, as long as she promises never to come out with some lifestyle guru-esque holy crapola website a la Gwyneth Paltrow's Goop.

Why do VB threads always go really odd? Anyone who doesn't have lovely things to say gets accused of being envious, and get flamed. I don't get it

The opposite happens on Katie Price threads. Anyone who says they like her gets flamed.

everlong Mon 06-May-13 20:14:16

Same with Peaches Geldof. Women have strong opinions about her and she has been known to get a bashing.

Not just VB.

lougle Mon 06-May-13 20:14:41

I have read all of the thread. I don't support and admire all famous women. I haven't given my opinion of VB. It's not about her. It's about the fact that a person can have their life torn apart by complete strangers on a forum, just for being famous.

ExcuseTypos Mon 06-May-13 20:15:12

*Sparklingbrook Mon 06-May-13 19:14:46
Why don't the Beckham lot have their faces pixelated?*

Because the Beckahms don't want them to be pixelated.

In the UK anyone under the age of 18 is entitled to privacy. So famous parents can apply to the court to ensure their children are not photographed and nothing is every published.

Lots of celebs do this, as mentioned in this thread.

The Beckhams choose not to and that's what I really dislike about them.

Kiss I got accused of being envious of KP on a thread. shock

Oh right Excuse. Well they are bonkers in that case.

fedupofnamechanging Mon 06-May-13 20:19:50

I like her, but I also feel sorry for her. It can't be easy having everyone think your dh is shagging around. And if it's true, she can't get divorced because they are a brand and their success/standing depends upon them being together.

ExcuseTypos Mon 06-May-13 20:20:04

I agree Sparkling.

Why would any parent want their child's face in the newspapers very single day? Bizarre behaviour.

Does the same apply to the US Excuse? I thought that the reason the Beckham children weren't pixelated was because they are in the US.

ExcuseTypos Mon 06-May-13 20:23:54

I don't think the laws are as strict in the US. But the Beckham children have always been in the papers, whichever country they are in.

And even if they were photographed in the US, if the Beckhams had the court order, the photos would not be allowed to be published in the UK.

digerd Mon 06-May-13 20:25:16

Being that thin is not attractive and certainly not healthy looking. I have never seen her smile in a photo- not even in the Spice Girls reunion photo. That does not give a good/happy impression of her.

She does have good bone structure in her face, her DH looks good, and the kids certainly look happy and well adjusted.

She does not.

mrsjay Mon 06-May-13 20:25:33

Why do VB threads always go really odd? Anyone who doesn't have lovely things to say gets accused of being envious, and get flamed. I don't get it.

neither do I sparkling if it was katie price or peter andre most would be agreeing, I don't get all the VB love at all , and I think woop is getting a hard time for not really saying anything,

Oh and alot of US celeb children are pixalated they can go to court and get an order of somesort

everlong Mon 06-May-13 20:26:17

Why does having their dc's faces not pixilated make them bonkers?

I don't get it?

What affect on those children having their photo's not pixilated have on their lives??

How does it make the parents bad ones??

mrsjay Mon 06-May-13 20:27:32

I am not fussed if she has her kids on show there as her and davids children I don't think they are bad parents at all for having their kids on show she just annoys me and isn't a role model

woopsidaisy Mon 06-May-13 20:27:33

She didn't swear at me. You did, because I called her a twat.

"Fucking lovely you are not."

squoosh Mon 06-May-13 20:28:10

Because the children were never given a choice about being in the public eye.

Saski Mon 06-May-13 20:28:37

She's obviously a bit more clever than was once assumed. I can't stretch this far enough to believe that To Kill a Mockingbird is her favorite book.

She comes off well in interviews; I think she pulls herself together beautifully, & I love her dresses. I don't have any strong feelings about her.

everlong Mon 06-May-13 20:29:07

mrsjay have you read woops posts?

Calling VB a twat for a start.

I would hate my children to be instantly recognisable if I was very rich and famous. Who knows what the lasting effects will be on the children? When they are adults and get interviewed about it we will find out.

Fairyloo Mon 06-May-13 20:30:17

No evidence to suggest David cheated

Crunchymunchyhoneycakes Mon 06-May-13 20:30:53

Victoria and David appeal to a certain demographic. Nothing about them is aspirational to me.

Ledkr Mon 06-May-13 20:31:24

Other than the fact that he never really denied it properly like you would do if you were innocent

FreudiansSlipper Mon 06-May-13 20:31:48

we all thought Michael Jackson was mad for taking childen out in masks, until his death they were able to go about their business and no one knew who they were

it was odd behaviour he was strange but he knew the damage living in the public eye could do they choose to live a very public life their childen have no choice in that it is just so not necessary but it creates more headlines for them

ExcuseTypos Mon 06-May-13 20:32:00

Everlong, I think it makes them bad parents because they aren't protecting their children. Allowing photos of them to be taken and published means they are constantly followed.

Other celebs' children aren't constantly followed because there is no point- they wouldn't be allowed to publish any photos. So the Beckhams actively encourage the paparazzi circus.

Oh, I must be the wrong demographic-that makes sense Crunchy.

cocolepew Mon 06-May-13 20:33:36

I can't understand why she is in the papers,everyday.
She constantly looks miserable, if she is so funny and a great sense if humour she hids it really well.
I have no time for anyone that is happy for a crowd of photographers to be constantly in their childrens faces.

thegreylady Mon 06-May-13 20:34:02

I bet if everyone here who has a toddler girl put them in a line-up and included Harper then asked for a vote for the 'most adorable' then HB wouldn't make the top ten.
As for her mother, I have rarely seen her smile,she is far too thin and is just a rather empy headed ex pop star who has a has been husband with a squeaky voice.
They have money which would be nice but fame isn't fun and I wouldn't swap even if I were 30+ years younger.

mrsjay Mon 06-May-13 20:34:07

people call people twats allt he time on here it isn't the best word to use but I said all she did was pout and when would she stop, what is the demograhaphic then

Because they are allowed to be photographed now it will continue into their adulthood. When the boys get girlfriends/got to University do anything they will be papped. How is that fair on the children?

MammaTJ Mon 06-May-13 20:36:00


Her kids are no more gorgous than mine.

My DP does not cheat on me.

I do not have to put up with paparazzi.


I am skint.


I prefer my life!!

mrsjay Mon 06-May-13 20:36:09

TBF on them they only seem to let photographers papp the children on their terms I did read 1 of their sons had a seizure so he isnt photographed, I do think they are an engineered family and organise photoshoots but I guess they are not rare in celeb land

everlong Mon 06-May-13 20:36:33

The Beckhams will be papped whilst watching their boys play football at school or a basket ball game just as much as they would if they're getting in and out of the car or a restaurant.

For whatever reason they have chosen not to pixilate their photo's.

I could think of a million more reasons that would make them bad parents. Not pixilating their photo's isn't one.

I would love to ask VB why they chose not to opt for the pixelating.

mrsjay Mon 06-May-13 20:39:25

I always wondered what makes people so fame hungry I know it is all about attention but when does it start and sometimes they cant stop,

Crunchymunchyhoneycakes Mon 06-May-13 20:39:26

I don't know, shallow and thick? Is that a demographic?

one of her sons (perhaps more than one) has done modelling. He could hardly do that with his face pixelated.

Crunchymunchyhoneycakes Mon 06-May-13 20:40:25

They want to get the children making money for the brand, is one of them not modelling for Burberry already?

yes Kiss Burberry flasher macs. confused

Crunchymunchyhoneycakes Mon 06-May-13 20:40:58

Cross posts kiss

Bakingnovice Mon 06-May-13 20:41:17

Anyone in the know will tell you vb is miserable because she doesn't eat, db sleeps around a fair bit, their 'appearances' with kids and especially the new baby are very carefully orchestrated with nannies walking ten yards behind and paps informed of movements, they are engineered and orchestrated and anyone who knew the truth of their life would not ever want to trade places. But yes, they do have a lot of money.

Oh like working for the family firm Crunchy? I am sure he auditioned and got the job fair and square mind.

Chipstick10 Mon 06-May-13 20:42:02

I disagree with the poster who said vb is a beautiful woman. She IMO is not beautiful, and if press reports are to be believed her husband is not faithful.

cocolepew Mon 06-May-13 20:42:07

I remember that about their son having a seizure, but all their boys are photographed still.
I would recognise their DSs if I met them in the street, that's not natural.

everlong Mon 06-May-13 20:42:39

Yes of course, they need to get little Romeo out to work bring home the bacon.

Poor buggers.

Bakingnovice Mon 06-May-13 20:44:57

Ha! As if they would have the kids faces pixelated. That's probably a breach of contract with fuller & co. as a unit they are one big brand. And IMO none of them are beautiful. They are average looking with average talents.

I did notice Brooklyn has train track braces. I showed DS1 as they are the same as his. I thought he would have some posho invisible ones. grin

OliviaMMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 06-May-13 20:51:36

posh Peace and love

Ooh no. People must be reporting about people not being nice about Vicky. sad

everlong Mon 06-May-13 20:52:47


Oh no I hope VB doesn't do an Amanda Holden and moan to the papers.

everlong Mon 06-May-13 20:54:16


My indeed was to Olivia. Fret not I've not been reporting you all for your snide cruel comments wink

ever I hope we haven't fallen out over VB. sad

FreedomOfTheTess Mon 06-May-13 20:59:19

I don't envy her life at all.

I have everything I need.

And also, and I realise I might be alone in this, I don't actually find Harper that cute. I see far cuter babies/toddlers in the street every day.

everlong Mon 06-May-13 20:59:51

No darling. I could never be cross with you!

cocolepew Mon 06-May-13 21:00:54

Have you seem her and,Tana Ramsey out together lately? TR has taken to dressing exactly like her grin.
VB has had plastic surgery as well, apart from the amazing inflating/deflating boobs. Her nose used to look exactly like
a pigs her sisters, but doesn't any longer.

squoosh Mon 06-May-13 21:02:24

Tana Ramsey, now there's a woman I definitely do not envy.

woopsidaisy Mon 06-May-13 21:03:03

Is calling someone who parades around in frond if the press for money a twat awful? I don't think so.
But then we obviously just have different opinions. Falling out over VB is not on! smile

AnyFucker Mon 06-May-13 21:03:13

I rather like Victoria

She has to make at least a couple of huge sacrifices to maintain her status quo though...

1) be permanently very hungry

2) overlook her husband's wandering dick

Not something I could do...but then I don't feel I have to

Jenny0505 Mon 06-May-13 21:04:41

I agree squoosh

I like the Beckhams, they are harmless. Harper def not the kind of toddler I find cute, though.

mrsmindcontrol Mon 06-May-13 21:08:50

I don't think she has it all. I suspect the happy image of that marriage is something of a charade. Far too many rumours circulating about DB. She knows its in her interests to remain married to him which leaves her in a very unenviable position.
She was a ridiculed over her singing career & has only recently become 'cool' due to her fashion career.
She must starve herself to remain that thin.
And yeah, her children are cute but mine are waaaaaay cuter IMO.
Sorry OP but I think you're way off the mark.

Crunchymunchyhoneycakes Mon 06-May-13 21:09:34

To be fair to her I'd look fucking miserable all the time too if I was constantly starvingly hungry.

OliviaMMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 06-May-13 21:30:55


Why do VB threads always go really odd? Anyone who doesn't have lovely things to say gets accused of being envious, and get flamed. I don't get it.

No one had reported. I saw this and was rather agreeing that's all.

Oh right. Thanks OliviaMN. I was wondering. smile VB threads do go a bit pear shaped generally.

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Mon 06-May-13 21:44:26

Well, she has had two - two!- world-class careers. OK, the solo singing bit wasn't all that, but come on, the Spice Girls were pretty big. Her achievements on that front are quite impressive.

She seems like a good Mum.

She has a fabulous wardrobe.

Her children are nice looking, if that is important. I had a DD a few months before Harper was born and she is a peaches-and-cream doe-eyed, ringletted mass, and as such Harper's cuteness hasn't really registered on my radar. Having said that, it doesn't really count a load of Mums coming on to say their children are cuter - we would say that! grin Put 'em up for scrutiny by the ruthless disinterested public - as we are, commenting on her kids - and see what the reaction is...

As for lots of Mumsnetters putting up with cheating husbands and taking them back, just like VB. None of us have Brand <insert family name> to think about, do we? Any MNers patching their marriages up are doing so because both parties presumably want to, not because they have to.

Rather than having a shared, mutual interest in working through troubles together purely for the benefit of the relationship and the family, Victoria has traditionally had a HUGE vested interest in maintaining the Brand Bechkam image. If the family disintegrates, so does the brand, and therefore so does the income and the root cause of their fame.

However, now that her star is back on the rise and his on the wain, it will be interesting to see how things pan out. Something tells me she won't be behaving like him and having a load of shady encounters. Whereas he will probably only have more. Lots more, to feed his ego.

There's lots about her lifestyle that is arguably enviable. But a lot that absolutely isn't as well.

OrangeMabel Mon 06-May-13 21:54:53

How do you know DB is unfaithful. I believe he did the dirty with Rebecca Loos but what makes you think he's still cheating?

AnyFucker Mon 06-May-13 21:58:26

Once is not enough, mabel ?

It would be for me

Jenny0505 Mon 06-May-13 22:11:29

yeh i believe you anyfucker! i'd be the same now, btu plenty of posters on here arent' berated and mocked for giving their husbands a second chance.

How do you know DB is unfaithful. I believe he did the dirty with Rebecca Loos but what makes you think he's still cheating?

Why wouldn't he? If Victoria turned a blind eye before what incentive would he have to stop cheating on her?

AnyFucker Mon 06-May-13 22:21:29

There have been other rumours about DB and OW than Rebecca Loos

Going off previous behaviour, I would be inclined to believe them if I were Victorua

But I'm not, so it is neither here nor there

Yeah, there was the page 3 model when she was pregnant with their first baby, it might have even been before they were married.

I wouldn't be surprised if the rumours about him and TC are true too.

ExcuseTypos Mon 06-May-13 22:27:23

Yes, iirc there was a nanny and their spray tan person.

And those are the ones we know about.

ExcuseTypos Mon 06-May-13 22:36:10

I felt very sorry for Victoria, after reading this. Afaik they never sued the nanny for telling her story, which suggests it's true.

Ashoething Mon 06-May-13 22:45:32

They are thick as.pig shit.the pair of them.the only thing i envy is their send their dcs to private schools.i still bet none.of their kids end up as doctors,lawyers etc.

CherylTrole Mon 06-May-13 23:19:35

Great craic reading this thread!!
I remember seeing photos of Vicky recently, from back in the day when she started seeing Dave, OMG the chins on her, she was well podgy!! She has started starving herself since seeing these this I would say. Plus dealing with a cheating DH, all adds up to zero self esteem. AnyFucker wandering dick heh heh! Disgusting Dick Dave heh heh.
Someone needs to tell Vicky that all the money in the world does not make up for a cheating DH. Although going by her grimace she has cottoned on...

Alisvolatpropiis Mon 06-May-13 23:54:04

She does seem to have it all but has had some awful press over the years,just really vile awful things said about her. For example,she must be the only woman in the public eye who,when her husband "cheated",people said it was her fault! I don't envy her the very public bullying she has endured.

williaminajetfighter Tue 07-May-13 00:10:50

Aside from the money which is very enviable I can't say there's much about her that I admire. Much prefer to admire Marie Curie types.

The one thing you do have to give her credit for is her sheer discipline and she has that in bucket loads. The discipline to always prepare for the cameras, to ensure she is always turned out, to take advantage of every PR opportunity, to keep up the fromt. The discipline to keep the brand going, the self discipline not to eat. You can't say this woman doesn't try! It would exhaust me!

She really does work hard. Shame it's a lot of energy that seems somewhat misdirected!

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Tue 07-May-13 00:39:56

Oh dear <cringe> at the irony of people accusing a wildly successful couple of being 'thick as ****' in a disastrously-written post...


CherylTrole Tue 07-May-13 01:08:32

But they are indeed sadly as thick as shit. Actually make that shallow as shit as well grin

ToothGah Tue 07-May-13 01:16:32

I quite like Posh, I certainly don't think she's thick either. Though DB's voice annoys the hell out of me and yes he does sound stupid.

I have to say though (and I'm probably breaking a MN rule here) that I think Harper definitely isn't the cutest thing I've ever seen. At all. Sorry.

WhiteBirdBlueSky Tue 07-May-13 02:01:14

I think she's alright.

I would never want to be a woman, any woman, rich or poor, fat or thin who has that little respect for herself that she would put up with her husband shagging someone else.

aurynne Tue 07-May-13 02:43:59

I think her baby girl looks rather ordinary like any other baby girl to be honest. I wouldn't say she is any more cute than any other random kid.

aurynne Tue 07-May-13 02:45:05

(in addition to being just like her mum, in the sense that I don't think she has ever been caught smiling)

MasterOfTheYoniverse Tue 07-May-13 03:09:54

They have worked pretty hard to achieve high goals in an area they were passionate about. Not bad for a "thick" pair. What's not commendable about that work ethos?

I just can't understand the loathing and how it spills over to comments on the children.

MariefromStMoritz Tue 07-May-13 03:43:01

She is a very talented designer (if I had the money I would wear head-to-toe VB) and she is a great mum. I read a couple of weeks ago that she practices times tables and spellings with her kids every morning and have now started doing that with DS blush

I really don't understand why people are so nasty about her. Everyone claims they are not jealous of her, but then why be so spiteful?

everlong Tue 07-May-13 06:23:50

Not being particularly doesn't mean you are thick.

In my book calling someone thick as pig shit when you don't know them is pot kettle black.

They are very astute if anything.

everlong Tue 07-May-13 06:27:12

Articulate wink

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Tue 07-May-13 06:32:39

Well, they've both done extraordinarily well for a couple of thickos.

And to say they're thick via the medium of a barely comprehensible post is, frankly, laughable.

As I say, just pointing out the irony.

everlong Tue 07-May-13 06:34:12

<fist pump Don>

Machli Tue 07-May-13 06:37:08

I think Beckham is probably not a good husband.

She seems like a good Mum. I don't think she's thick at all. Seems to be doing pretty ok for herself. Let's face it she's doing the best out of all the Spice Girls.

I think my dd is cuter than Harper.

Jenny0505 Tue 07-May-13 08:44:09

What is thick? Not having been to university? well me too then.

When they had that spice girl reunion recently and scary spice (mel B) was shouting at the crowd -geeing the crowd up - and throwing in a few swear words for good measure, you could see posh standing there clapping politely like she was in the audience, not part of the lineup, she looked like she was thinking 'this is painful enough, and now, oh lovely, swearing!!, brilliant'.

It is a bit unsettling really the level of criticism directed at her by other women.
-So she forgave her cheating husband. HER prerogative. I wouldn't, but hundreds on MN have been supported through making exactly the same --mistake- decision.
-So, she got lucky and ended up in a girl band despite having no musical talent. Would you all turn your backs on that opportunity??? Say, no thank you, that's not fair. I don't deserve the honour hmm of being in the spice girls. Ha!!!
-Because she's thin? is she only sleb on a permanent diet? eh duh if you think so.

woopsidaisy Tue 07-May-13 09:00:10

I agree with what you are saying. But the thing with VB is that IMO she gets people annoyed by lying a out that stuff!
When DB allegedly cheated she stood on every red carpet going draped all over him in what I would consider a completely pathetic attempt to "show off" her "prize". Even if he hadn't been unfaithful she made herself and him look ridiculous. IMO.
The Spice Girls all got lucky. I would never begrudge them their fame there. But VB was never a talented singer. She thought she was though. And only admitted how rubbish she was when she decided to be a designer and wanted to lose that image.
She was always slim to me. But she became skeletal looking after Brooklyn. But said stupid things like ••"I've always been naturally slim". hmm
So if she would cut the bullshit, and stop parading around like a complete numpty, took the poker out if her arse and stopped faking everything then I might have more time for her.
And most men I know think she is ridiculous too. I just happens that there are women here. As I said earlier I have plenty if time for most women. But not her. She is a vacuous, vain, self absorbed twat. IMO.

But as I also said earlier, she doesn't seem to be a bitch either. And has raised nice kids-with lots of help.
I am a bitch it would seem. grin

wordfactory Tue 07-May-13 09:07:49

I think VB has achieved a lot. I particularly like her frocks!

But like others, I just wish she would stop lying.

Of her figure, I've heard her put it down to everyhting from 'running after my DC' to polycystic ovaries. She should either come clean and admit she eats very very little or (better still) make no comment.

Of her family, I wish she would stop trying to position herself as an uber-mummy.
She is a successful business woman, who travels a lot, lives apart from her DH and has lots of help with childcare and housekeeping! All this is fine but she should stop pretending!!!!

kelda Tue 07-May-13 09:10:54

I don't think she is pretending. She looks knackered most of the time.

Turquoiseblue Tue 07-May-13 09:18:41

I have to say I do admire her. I think she has a lot of ambition and determination. I reckon she s a control freak - the way the kids are paraded out at times, bit then I think their lives are a little extraordinary and there s probably not a handbook on how to deal with it.
I love her vb designs and reckon hats off to her for following her ambition. She could have just decided to live off David's reputation and look skinny pretty smile
Yup I agree she s unnaturally skinny. I would question if it s healthy and balanced.
Her kids so seem lovely. Bit I think they too are groomed for public performance.
The op reference to 'dodgy kids' or sommat had me a bit shock but I do agree harper seems a cutie .
I detest how she s always perched on vb s hips though. It looks to me like vb is concentrating on her step in heels, not actually interacting with her daughter.
DB seems like he s a good dad bit horrible husband. I wonder if he s rebelling against vb s iron fist. All the affairs.... Disgusting and I don't know how she would stay for it. Not even for all the money an fame.

Jenny0505 Tue 07-May-13 10:14:58

Maybe her next reinvention is as a finanacially independent single woman. she is strong. I think she is 40 now? or is that next year. I wonder if she will bother to stick with him in her forties. Maybe she'll decide to refocus her strength in another direction. One thing you have to give her is that she grows up. she isn't clinging on to her 20s.

mrsjay Tue 07-May-13 10:28:49

I wouldn't call her thick what is thick anyway <shrug> she has done all right for herself I just hate the persona and not the person brand beckham just gets right on my wick grin

I don't know if she is thick or not. Has she any qualifications?

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Tue 07-May-13 10:36:26

What do qualifications have to do with someone's level of thickness?

It's possible to be intelligent/bright/savvy/articulate/astute/etc, without being educated. Surey we all agree on that.

The point is, she's done exceedingly well. Far, far better than many people sitting in judgement of her level of intelligence. Lightyears better.

So ... y'know...

everlong Tue 07-May-13 10:36:29

Come on now. Just by not having quakifations doesn't mean you are thick!

My dh left school with hardly any but manages to run an extremely successful business without any problems hmm

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Tue 07-May-13 10:38:46

Man, you'd think I was a big old' fan. I'm not. grin

No, I don't mean that I mean as we have never met her knowing what qualifications she got at school is an indication. The only solid indication we could have. That's all.

ExRatty Tue 07-May-13 10:44:02

I think Victoria Beckham is great.

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Tue 07-May-13 10:48:05

Surey her achievements are even more of a solid indication...?

Somebody sub-par on the intelligence levels is probably going to pootle along like most of us, not buidling their own empire, not being a household name, etc.

Sod the qualifications, we can see what she's achieved!

digerd Tue 07-May-13 11:03:02

When I saw that photo of her recently with Harper and those heels, I was shocked, as imagined the possibility of her tripping up and/or losing her balance and falling over. Very dangerous with baby in arm and on hip especially when walking down steps.

Jenny0505 Tue 07-May-13 11:27:00

You don't have to be her biggest fan to find this taste for ripping her down a bit disturbing. I'm not her fan per se. Well, I'd love one of her dresses. Maybe that counts.

everlong Tue 07-May-13 11:31:54

Agree Jenny.

ExRatty Tue 07-May-13 12:27:00

I wonder if men's sites have threads that end up like these?

Envy is a terrible thing

MissHilly Tue 07-May-13 16:00:21

The Beckhams pay a lot of money for good PR and what you read about them is good for the brand which is worth millions. They can pay to make sure they rarely get negative press. I have heard that Roland Mouret has been very "influential" in Victoria Beckham's designs and of course, it is also interesting that Simon Fuller is Roland Mouret's business partner. Simon Fuller owns 50% of the business.

squoosh Tue 07-May-13 16:05:32

That is interesting MissHilly. A lot of her designs are quite Mouret-esque. I do remember hearing some murmurings about the speed of her development as a designer considering she'd never undertaken any formal training.

squoosh Tue 07-May-13 16:06:27

I always forget about Simon Fuller and their links with him. He seems to be the true silent power behind lots of showbiz thrones.

persimmon Tue 07-May-13 16:08:36

She's just someone living their life. I don't know why I'm supposed to have a strong opinion about her or her family. Meh.

MissHilly Tue 07-May-13 16:13:31

Squoosh There was an excellent article about in The Times a couple of years ago and it said a lot without actually saying it if you see what I mean. When Simon Fuller rescued Mouret he did so under a few conditions and yes, Victoria has never trained as a pattern cutter.

<arf> at 'envy'.

MissHilly that is very interesting.

everlong Tue 07-May-13 18:10:33

Why do people need or want to pick holes?

What harm have they ever done anyone in all serious?

Seems like they can't win.

CherylTrole Tue 07-May-13 18:50:12

MissHilly you have described a scenario that is probably typical for the Becks. We see so much but I think there is so much more we dont see/ hear about. If you want to put your life out there then you get opinions from people about you and your life.
I laughed when I saw the Vicky at the chippy photos!! I just dont get why they are always in the press? What is the big deal about them? I think they just got lucky. There are lots of reasons why I label them thick. Still I would never want their life in any way. Just imagine the convos between Vicky and Tana Ramsey about having serial shaggers for DHs !! confused

fuzzywuzzy Tue 07-May-13 18:55:22

I feel sorry for her, she has always come across in interviews as very in love with her husband & always putting herself down saying she doesn't compare to him and is so astounded he's with her.

I hope she LTB & finds someone who really loves her right back.

CherylTrole Tue 07-May-13 18:57:58

fuzzywuzzy thats what I think too. She does deserve better treatment. I cant see her leaving him though shes in too deep in too many ways.

pastmybbd Tue 07-May-13 19:18:45

People in the public eye often appear to have it all, right up to the point where their marriages break down and they reveal the lies they've been living with, the cheating, the breakdowns, the drugs, the weird diets, the general misery...

I truly hope that Victoria Beckham has a better life than she appears to have.

Money isn't everything. Being thin shouldn't be an aspiration in itself. Gorgeous kids abound in this world, if you look for their good points rather than looking for their bad. And I wouldn't envy any other woman's life as I'm quite happy with my own. I'm chubbier than I should be, I'm not rich in terms of money and my child probably wouldn't pass most people's gorgeous-ometer, but she passes mine and that's all that matters. I pray that my child won't ever envy another person's life but will instead be content with her own.

ClartyCarol Tue 07-May-13 19:28:23

Why is it still so important to maintain 'Brand Beckham'? Surely to God they have enough money now to last several lifetimes, even if they did drop off the radar.

YouAreFired Tue 07-May-13 19:29:09

I like her. She appears to have very well adjusted, well mannered children and a supportive extended family. She also has a successful business in an industry she obviously loves.

Am I envious? No, I wouldn't want to sacrifice my privacy for all the fame and money with photographers everywhere, endless criticism and speculation about their life.

stickortwist Tue 07-May-13 19:36:49

I like her too. Not because of the fact she has gorgeous children..... I have them already! I think on her own she would actually be a laugh. ... She doesnt smile much because she thinks she doesnt look attractive if she smiles i thought
Dont envy her though must be hideous to not feel you can smile in case you get papped.

MissHilly Tue 07-May-13 20:54:10

ClartyCarol it may be that a brand is worth more when the couple are together than apart, hence the popularity of "lavender marriages" in Hollywood, for personal or financial reasons.

ClartyCarol Wed 08-May-13 13:38:44

Yeah I know, but what I meant was surely they now have more money in the bank than they could possibly want or need. If they stay together to preserve the 'brand' in order to gain even more money at the expense of their personal happiness - well, that just seems ridiculous. Surely there must be some love and affection there?

ExcuseTypos Wed 08-May-13 13:43:09

Maybe there is love and affection there, Clarity.

I do agree that they cant need anymore money.

I've come to the conclusion that they love the attention , the paps and being in the limelight.

CherylTrole Thu 09-May-13 17:36:13

Maybe Dave will take over Alex Fergusons job??

noddyholder Thu 09-May-13 17:36:44

What a silly thread

CherylTrole Thu 09-May-13 17:50:12

Haaaa yes it is!!! Its not the only one thats silly.......

Maybe Vicky will take over AF's job? wink

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