to be pissed off I have had to treat ds for nits 3 times in 3 weeks!

(43 Posts)
Whojamaflip Fri 03-May-13 22:40:47

Says it all really angry

DS came home today complaining his head was itchy - AGAIN and sure enough there were 3 adult headlice in his hair. I have treated him and sent him to bed.

Why can't people check and treat their children? We have had notes home from school asking people to check and treat accordingly so why can't they do it.

Why should I have to deal with them on a weekly basis cos some folks can't be bothered! angry

FreyaSnow Fri 03-May-13 22:43:17

When children have head lice, you do normally have to treat them for a number of consecutive weeks, not just do it for one week and leave it.

Catching head lice doesn't give you an itchy head. If you have an itchy head it is because you are having a reaction to them caused by having had lice and eggs on your head for a longer period of time.

NotKathyReichs Fri 03-May-13 22:43:34

Sorry but youre probably not getting rid of them. The eggs are nearly impossible to get rid of, you need to treat him then every 48hrs smother his head in conditioner, get a nitty gritty comb and comb and comb and comb. Its worth doing everyone else in the family too, including yourself!

ElsieOops Fri 03-May-13 22:45:26

Do expect to need to check and deal with it frequently - I found the conditioner and nitcomb method was good to keep on top of it whilst my daughter was in primary school. I think she had it repeatedly when about 8 years old, hasn't had it since though.

HolyFocaccia Fri 03-May-13 22:47:35

You may find that nit lotion is not the final answer to these lice, whether its down to resistance I am not sure. You need to comb, comb, comb...which I am sure you have already but keep going. Will take a few weeks to break the cycle of hatching.

Lots of conditioner, patience and bribery is key.

Same batch just breeding.

Treatments don't work, the little bastid eggs are impervious to just about everything.

They can have up to a 21 day life cycle so constant combing is the only option.

exexpat Fri 03-May-13 22:48:32

I agree it probably means you are not getting rid of them. Are you just using one of the chemical things? conditioner and nit comb, repeated every few days, is more effective and much cheaper. But you need to do it four or five times over a two-week period to stamp them out, then do a check with nit comb once every couple of weeks.

mrsjay Fri 03-May-13 22:48:51

yanbu to be pissed off but they can hang about for months you need good combs and comb the little buggers out you cant get them out with just lotion you need to comb them out every 2 days for at least a fortnight

Whojamaflip Fri 03-May-13 22:51:43

I understand about the treating and retreating but ds doesn't have any eggs! Just full grown creepy crawlys.

I promise there are no eggs - his hair is dark and I know I would be able to see the white egg casings - there just aren't any.

I use a nitty gritty comb and all I get out of his hair are the adults - no eggs, no juveniles, no egg cases.

So imo he is picking up the adults from someone at school which means someones parent is not doing their job...

thenightsky Fri 03-May-13 22:54:52

When mine were at Primary the school would send out a letter to all parents to treat their DC on a certain Saturday in the month, whether they had evidence of nits or not. It kept outbreaks down to once a year max. Can you get your school to do this OP?

inchoccyheaven Fri 03-May-13 22:55:01

eggs aren't neccessarily white though. My boys are blonde and the eggs they had were dark and looked like specks of dirt. Only difference was dirt would brush out these clung to the hair and I had to pull off with fingernails as too small for nit comb.

FreyaSnow Fri 03-May-13 22:57:00

'For the first two or three months, there is usually no itch, but then the scalp may start to itch badly. This is due to an allergy, not to the louse bites themselves.
Most people only realise they have head lice when this itch starts. By then they’ve had lice on their head for two or three months without knowing it.
In most infections, there aren’t more than a dozen or so lice on the scalp at any one time.
Some people never get the itch, including adults. They may have a few lice on their heads for years without knowing it, and can pass them to other people.'

empty cases are white and eggs with lice in are darker

ElsieOops Fri 03-May-13 22:59:32

The eggs are pale brown before hatching, my daughter's hair is dark brown and it is still very hard to see the empty white cases, and the unhatched ones was even harder. I found them easiest to see when the hair was slightly damp. The cases didn't come off with the nitcomb I used, so I pulled them out by hand too.

Whojamaflip Fri 03-May-13 23:01:55

Freya - really? I check the dc's hair every sunday with the nit comb cos I have a pathological fear of creepy crawlies in the hair - just the thought of it makes my head itch!

I would hope that I would have noticed ds had lice before now if he had had them for 2 to 3 months!

night - I like that idea - may pass it on to his class teacher.

I thought empty egg cases were white and unhatched eggs dark - so would expect to find white things stuck to the hair if I was finding adults.

Whojamaflip Fri 03-May-13 23:02:17

oh x post

gwenniebee Fri 03-May-13 23:02:31

I used to work in a boarding school and nits were pretty much endemic. Eugh. However, we used to have problems with pupils where we got rid of the nits at school and they caught them again from home... so, do your whole family, including the adults.

SofiaAmes Fri 03-May-13 23:02:36

Have you asked what activities they are going at school. One year when my ds was in nursery, they sent a note home saying that there was lice in the class. That day when I was picking ds up, the teacher pointed out how they were learning about careers and showed me the array of hats that they had all been trying on!!!! I tried to point out that that was probably the source of the spreading lice epidemic, but she really didn't seem to get it.

FreyaSnow Fri 03-May-13 23:06:43

OP, I got that from the CCDC. It was the first link that came up, but I've read the same thing previously on various UK websites.

That's the thing. All these parents who don't deal with nits, it's often because they think things like all eggs are white, you only have to treat for one week etc.

I'm sorry, but it does sound very much like you are the parent whose child is giving other kids nits. It isn't a big deal. Just condition and comb more regularly.

IneedAsockamnesty Fri 03-May-13 23:26:28

Yabu and probably contributing towards the problem.

But I'm guessing you know that now,

Have a read of this www.killnits.com/head_lice_life_%20cycle.html

It explains it and may help you get your head around why it takes over 3 weeks to effectively treat headlice

you need nitrid, its a fiver in wilkinsons or can be bought on amazon, amazing stuff it ended an infestation in months, I only applied once so it must have killed the eggs too.

IneedAsockamnesty Fri 03-May-13 23:36:56

Freya.

The lack of itch is only in some cases equally as such extream long term cases may have stopped itching due to resistance.

The itch can be caused by both adult movement and feeding as well as egg laying.

Op I get that you think you know about headlice but put it this way.

Why would 3 breeding mature adult lice wander onto your sons head spend at least 1 day on his head and all 3 randomly decide not to behave like any other head louse in the history of the world? One perhaps but all 3 not doing what they are biologically programmed to do? Not likely really is it?

infestation that LASTED months not IN months !

olgaga Fri 03-May-13 23:45:04

At least with boys you can get their hair cut short and then it's a lot easier to treat.

I feel like I spent years of my life treating and combing my DDs long hair!

iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Fri 03-May-13 23:47:43

OP, how long is your sons hair?

My DS's never got nits and i think it was largely because they had buzz cuts. They didnt suit longer hair and it was an added bonus that boys with very short hair don't usually get nits.

OutragedFromLeeds Fri 03-May-13 23:48:12

Girls can have short hair confused

iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Fri 03-May-13 23:49:51

The itch is also caused by thinking about nits blush confused

<<trying not to scratch head emoticon>>

iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Fri 03-May-13 23:50:48

I have never seen a girl with a buzz cut though...

OutragedFromLeeds Fri 03-May-13 23:53:13

I knew a family with 5 girls all with buzz cuts because they were sick of the nits grin.

I'm not saying its common, I'm just saying there isn't a law or medical reason that all girls must have long hair.

iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Fri 03-May-13 23:59:04

Short hair can look amazing on little girls (especially nit free grin )

BlackeyedSusan Sat 04-May-13 00:09:23

i had a girl in my class who had hair set like concrete. hairspray... the little buggers woiuld not have got a chance to thrive there.

oh and yes, I am now scratching away like mad...

EnidRollins Sat 04-May-13 00:18:48

I completely and totally sympathise, as my DS has long hair and is ALWAYS catching the buggers.
I have completely, totally blitzed his head of all nits and eggs by checking every day, and do this every day to make sure he hasn't got any.
He won't have any, a school holiday will come up and he'll be nit free.
Last holidays he was completely and utterly nit and egg free, then two days into starting school again, on the nightly inspection, he had ONE SOLITARY HUGE ADULT NIT and nothing else in his hair which definitely wasn't there the night before when I checked, as it was all nit and egg free then.
So it had obviously got in there at school because some lazy bastard parent couldn't be arsed to check their kids hair like they're supposed to. angry
It's just too much hassle to have longish hair at his school, next time he has it cut I'm asking for it cut short.
ARGH, drives me mad.

louisianablue2000 Sat 04-May-13 00:36:42

DD1 had an infestation back in October, as did her best friend. Despite both me and the friend's Mum telling the school separately (told school before chatting to each other and discovering we'd both done the same thing) they didn't bother informing the other parents hmm. Anyway we combed with nitty gritty comb and teatree conditioner every second night for two weeks and treated with Hedrin two weekends in a row (you're not suppose to do more than 3 treatments in a row IIRC). Use teatree shampoo for months afterwards and nitcomb every weekend. DDs friend got another infestation about 6 weeks later but luckily we avoided it at that point. But so annoyed at school for not reminding parents to look for it. Urgh. Getting an itchy head just thinking about it.

Sparklymommy Sat 04-May-13 01:28:35

I have four kids and it is constant sad I hate it and check every other day and it is a nightmare. Conditioner and nitty gritty is the only way tho.

Sokmonsta Sat 04-May-13 04:32:47

Tea tree oil! I swear by the stuff. Dd hasn't had nits despite being head to head with her majorly infested cousin and several nit notes from school.

I appreciate with boys it is harder but for dd she gets hair washed roughly every other day and I use tea tree shampoo/conditioner. In the morning when I'm tying her hair up I damp it down with tea tree essential oil in water from a spray bottle first then hairspray once done. Regardless of whether she has them or not I go through her hair with a nitty gritty comb once a week, more when notes come out. Fingers crossed but its working so far. I do it because I know how much trouble nits caused my sister despite our mother's best efforts and it appears one of her dd's has inherited the same problem.

With boys you could just rub some through in the morning.

Whojamaflip Sat 04-May-13 11:11:28

OK maybe I Abu

I honestly thought that the fact that I was checking weekly and seeing nothing, then treating and combing for 3 days if I did see something was enough but obviously not sad

Looks like it will be nightly combing with tea tree oil for the foreseeable future then...

thanks

mrsjay Sat 04-May-13 11:40:58

The eggs are clear ( i think) and take on hair colour, I dot hink the parents not treating is a little unfair nits are horrible and most parents feel like it is never ending while treating them, just keep combing them out saying he has no eggs in his hair is maybe right but treat his hair like he has,

mrsjay Sat 04-May-13 11:41:32

maybe a lot of parents think like you did well I treated it so ,

olgaga Sat 04-May-13 12:24:52

Girls can have short hair

Er, yes, if they want to. confused Mine didn't, and nor did any of her friends. It wasn't my choice and I was unwilling to have her restrained in a hairdresser's chair for a short cut.

Women can also have short hair - if they want to. As I do.

ChubbyKitty Sat 04-May-13 12:25:14

My poor neice has beautiful hair but every morning SIL has to dowse her in that tea tree spray on the schools request because there's a couple of parents not bothering. It's been in letters home that they need to keep checking but I guess these parents in particular are fine with their children walking around like this. I try not to judge parenting styles because everyone is different but head lice are parasites and are eating their children and they really need to sort it out. My mum only used to do me once a week but it was for hours and hours until she was certain there was nothing left not even my scalp

Sadly we used to get them periodically in early years of secondary school as well because there were some very questionable kids who felt the need to invade personal space. Eugh. School conveniently didn't notice, but I remember once when I was about 13 I flat out refused to go one day because I'd been brushing my hair and found a fat one who had clearly just pigged out on all my blood. My mum was so calm and understanding and spent the day getting rid of the little blighters and the school asked the next day where I was and basically just imagined what I was saying is that I was sick.

Ooh it makes me mad.

But yanbu and yabu at the same time. Yanbu because all parents should be taking action but yabu to expect all parents to bother iyswim? Some of them just....don't.

Also, are they on me?

I feel like they're on me. confused

IneedAsockamnesty Sat 04-May-13 13:06:32

Chubby, if I found any on my kids I would t send them into school untill I had made sure they had been combed through so nothing wandering around for that day.

Takes about an hour the school have never given me grief. And its better than having a embarrassed child.

lemmingcurd Sat 04-May-13 15:35:39

don't forget that they can live in pillowcases, car seats, scarves, coats . my 2 had nits once and I must've done 17 loads of washing, it took me 3 days solid. I also washed the pillows and duvets themselves at 60, this was on the advice of nurse who had to inspect them before they cd go back to school. But the nits have never returned....

IneedAsockamnesty Sat 04-May-13 15:41:02

The louse can only survive away from a head for about 30 hours but nits can for much longer and can survive washing so washing and hoovering is a good move.

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