My daughter is not a Princess!

(181 Posts)
DrSeuss Thu 02-May-13 20:09:04

Another reference on FB to a friend's "Little Princess.". Am I the only one who prefers to avoid this word? My two year old is bright, funny, cuddly, sometimes stroppy. I hope she grows up to be something that makes her happy, no idea what yet, just something she finds fulfilling. Why would I give her such an inane title? The Duchess of Cambridge, who I actually really like, has a degree from a top university. She now has no right to express an opinion and will always be second to her husband. Not really what I hope for in my daughter's life!

McNewPants2013 Thu 02-May-13 20:12:22

I alwas call my DD my little princess, because she is my little princess.

Annunziata Thu 02-May-13 20:12:48

My DDs are my princesses.

Little Lawyer or Little Brain Surgeon don't quite have the same ring to them.

Themobstersknife Thu 02-May-13 20:14:56

I never referred to DD1 as a princess, never dressed her up as a princess, never encouraged her to be a princess. At nearly 4 years old, all she wants to be is a princess!

GadaboutTheGreat Thu 02-May-13 20:15:12

I hate people calling my DD 'princess' - reinforcing ridiculous stereotypes hmm
YANBU

natwebb79 Thu 02-May-13 20:15:21

I'm with you OP. I'm not a fan of the 'little princess' thing either. It's never occurred to me to refer to my DS as my 'little prince'. But then we're a largely anti-monarchy household. grin

stargirl1701 Thu 02-May-13 20:15:28

Agreed OP. Not my DD, ever.

Belchica Thu 02-May-13 20:15:29

YABU to get upset for your 2 yr old who hasn't actually even been called a princess.

And the DOC may come second to William in public life...but I am quite sure in their personal life, behind closed doors, she has her say. She is bucking royal protocol and taking her baby home to her mother. That's a princess with punch!

catgirl1976 Thu 02-May-13 20:15:50

I don't have a DD but I think I would feel like you OP if I did

So YANBU

MamaBear17 Thu 02-May-13 20:16:00

My DD is her daddy's 'bear' and my little madam (or monster). It could be worse, my FIL calls her his 'pwincess' and that really drives me mad!

VodkaJelly Thu 02-May-13 20:16:14

My DD is only 4 months old and she is already "Daddys Princess and Mummys Princess". Dont see whats is wrong with it myself

LooseyMy Thu 02-May-13 20:17:05

It does make me feel nauseous when people call their daughters princesses.

Tenacity Thu 02-May-13 20:17:23

YABU.

'Princess' is a very much overrated term.

DD is never called a princess. Every now and then she declares "I'm a queen" so is clearly skipping the princess stage and going straight for the throne.

TwoCrazyKids Thu 02-May-13 20:18:02

Relax!!

She hasn't even been called princess!

I call my boys lots of different things, monkey's, snuggle monsters! I don't ACTUALLY think they are monkeys!

Tenacity Thu 02-May-13 20:18:02

I meant YANBU.

My DD is nobody's goddamn princess hmm

She's an intelligent and amazing human being with a wide and varied range of interests and preferences.

Not some mini pink-obsessed spoilt brat in training.

Princess my arse hmm.

scaevola Thu 02-May-13 20:18:35

Very Dirty Den.

zukiecat Thu 02-May-13 20:19:05

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

I understand your point but don't agree with it.

I've always called DD my little princess.

But I've also called the DSs my little princes.

I think you need to get the fuck over yourself, such a non issue, especially when it's not even your dd, its someone else and their child. Beak out.

IneedAyoniNickname Thu 02-May-13 20:19:45

My dad always called me his little princess. I have never thought I was, or wanted to be, a real princess. If I ever have a daughter, I will probably call her little princess.

squidlywidly Thu 02-May-13 20:19:59

I agree with you Seuss. I hate the little princess nickname that is brandished about. From what I have seen most of the "princesses" behave in a far from regal manner. I also dislike people using little prince or even little man for my son. He has a name, use it people... Especially you MIL.

stargirl1701 Thu 02-May-13 20:20:01

Bunny. Splendid post! grin

dunkedbiscuits Thu 02-May-13 20:20:36

My DS (3 next week) insists that he is a princess even when I try and tell him that boy princesses are princes. I am usually cast as the dragon (can you tell they did St George's Day stuff at nursery).

cathpip Thu 02-May-13 20:20:43

My daughter 2.3 is called pot belly Pippa or high maintenance madam, princess is not a term that would describe my dd and I doubt it ever will be!

KingRollo Thu 02-May-13 20:21:32

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Doubtfuldaphne Thu 02-May-13 20:21:34

It is a bit annoying but not as bad as 'my sexy little man' and other horrible titles Ive seen parents give their children on Facebook. It's a bit degrading to the poor kids!

However my dd is only 26 months and puts things on her head (to make a crown) and calls herself a princess! I have no idea where she got it from. She does also promote herself to 'queen' regularly though.

5madthings Thu 02-May-13 20:21:39

Well my dd gets called princess. Infact she has a top a friend made for her that says "this princess is guarded by four big brothers" grin its the only clothing with 'princess' on that she has.

She is also a monkey, a monster a dinosaur, a cheeky chicken, a silly sausage, a wibbly jibbly girl, a merry mouse and ten million other nicknames.

I guess if you only referred to a child as a princess its not so great but meh its just another nickname to me and i call my children all number of things. Dd is 28mths and currently likes to be called dora...

usualsuspect Thu 02-May-13 20:21:46

My DC have been called all manner of nicknames.

YABU and a misery guts.

conantg Thu 02-May-13 20:22:13

YANBU. "Little princess" and "little prince" make my teeth itch.

DD likes to be a princess (I hate it). She likes to dress in her big dress, put on her jewels and tiara and then go rescuing princes. Because she only knows younger boys she thinks they must be protected and looked after because they are all little and delicate grin

thebody Thu 02-May-13 20:22:53

Breathe, that girl will go far.

Our lads are yogi and booboo and our girls are smudge and plop.

They all however like to be treated as royal!

zukiecat Thu 02-May-13 20:23:35

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usualsuspect Thu 02-May-13 20:25:46

How can your teeth itch?

Hyperhelpmum Thu 02-May-13 20:27:37

About to get flamed but I think it's a class thing. No one I know calls their daughter princess, so naff. See Katie price choosing it as a first name as an example.

MommyBird Thu 02-May-13 20:28:56

My daughter's 3 and i call her Princess occasionally,
However she is far from it, she likes pirates, and trains..playing in mud..puzzles, skull and cross bones, jigsaws and anything that will make a mess.
She does call herself a Ballerina..and then she's a Nurse, she can be anything she wants, at the mo she's a footballer.
she does like pink tho! smile x

In my experience, parents who constantly (not occasionally) and fervently identify their daughters as princesses and encourage self-identification as such tend to be parents who want to give their DD's everything they want. When they want it.

And said DD's have a tendency to grow up into spoilt obnoxious Veruca Salt types.

It's an unpleasant but very real stereotype.

Wasn't directed at anyone on here zukie smile

usualsuspect Thu 02-May-13 20:29:59

Here we go with the bloody MN obsession with class.

CousinRachel Thu 02-May-13 20:31:42

Everything BunnyLebowski said.

YANBU op, it's vile.

IShallCallYouSquishy Thu 02-May-13 20:31:58

My 11mo DD is my little princess (though has NO clothes etc declaring it). She's also my snot face, stinky face, monkey, puppy, baby bear, turtle, squishy face.... You get the idea. It's only a phrase. Calm down!

CousinRachel Thu 02-May-13 20:32:09

And I do have a DD.

MortifiedAdams Thu 02-May-13 20:32:20

DD is not a Princess or an Angel. She gets her name or a nickname version of. Sometimes I call her something random like Snuggle Bot or some.other such nonsense.

I wouldnt use Prince or Devil either.

DrSeuss Thu 02-May-13 20:33:31

Could be worse, I suppose. A friend saw a child in a t-shirt reading "Future WAG.". Hello, I am defined only as an appendage to a man, I get attention because of who I sleep with. Just what I hope for for DD!

loofet Thu 02-May-13 20:34:01

Ugh I can't stand 'my little princess' or 'my prince charming' -shudder- I find it cringey, on a level with 'yummy mummy'. Yanbu.

Annunziata Thu 02-May-13 20:34:19

Yes, it's vile to call your children affectionate nicknames hmm

What utter nonsense, why get so hung up over a pet name? I call mine honey and chicken too. I don't think they're sticky clucky things.

usualsuspect Thu 02-May-13 20:34:33

It's just a term of endearment, it has no hidden meaning. Well not unless you post on MN and have to make a big deal out of everything.

DrSeuss Thu 02-May-13 20:35:09

Is scummy mummy ok? It's a fairly accurate description of me!

takeaway2 Thu 02-May-13 20:37:35

My dh called our dd 'come on my little princess...' And dd (2.5 years) turned to him and said 'I not princess daddy, I tiger!!! Roarrrrrr'. grin

Dogsmom Thu 02-May-13 20:38:18

There are much worse things to be called, it's just a term of endearment, it doesn't mean people think they really are members of the royal family.

Oh so because I call my daughter princess, I'm beneath some of you. Classy indeed.

PoppyAmex Thu 02-May-13 20:40:48

YANBU - it's horrible and the connotations are grim.

50shadesofvomit Thu 02-May-13 20:41:57

Do you have a nickname for your daughter?
I have called my children"Lord" "Your Grace" or "Lady" when they are being bossy but they are generally known by other names like Sausage, Puppy and Professor normally. It's just an in-joke like them calling their "slave" or "The Queen" as a joke.

Annunziata Thu 02-May-13 20:56:56

I can't believe you affectionately call them Sausage. Imagine comparing your children to a piece of meat. And to associate food with praise! You're creating food issues.

See how ridiculous getting wound up over a name is?

mrsjay Thu 02-May-13 21:02:10

I really dont understand the whole my little princess thing at all It baffles me, call girls my whatever but princess hmm no

MrsMaryCooper Thu 02-May-13 21:03:08

DS is frequently called a precious lamb by older relatives. And grumpy drawers by me. Both true.

KansasCityOctopus Thu 02-May-13 21:03:31

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crashdoll Thu 02-May-13 21:05:02

I don't understand why people hate an affectionate name so much. I think some MNers just think they're above that, whatever 'that' may be.

beachesandbuckets Thu 02-May-13 21:05:23

My DD (2) started on this princess lark, but I have now brainwashed her to wanting to be a queen, which I have advised her is much better, you get to be in charge, boss people around and make your own decisions smile

wigglesrock Thu 02-May-13 21:06:19

DrSeuss but nobody is calling your daughter a princess - it's just the idea that some people you know might use it that you object to. Christ talk about borrowing problems.

grimbletart Thu 02-May-13 21:09:43

My elder DD was 'little sprocket' being very tiny but essential.

My younger DD was 'womble' because she always used to tut at litter in the street and pick it up and put it in a bin. grin

mrsjay Thu 02-May-13 21:11:41

I dont hate it but I dont understand honestly why princess ?

Chardonnay73 Thu 02-May-13 21:16:22

It makes me boak tbh shrugs I'm as girly as the next person but all that shizzle makes me feel sick...

DribbleWiper Thu 02-May-13 21:16:54

YANBU!

Horrid and sick-inducing. 'My Little Lady' also irritates me, although that's less rational.

Also loving Bunny's post!

kungfupannda Thu 02-May-13 21:28:36

Kansas - "Little man" got a slating on MN not that long ago.

I often call DS1 "little man" or more usually "wee man".

DS2 is currently known as "B-Pants". Don't ask. He's probably going to be scarred for life due to his parents demeaning him by reference to his undergarments....

catlady1 Thu 02-May-13 22:08:19

I call DD "Princess" on occasion. I call my lady cat "Princess" too, and now she sleeps on my pillow and makes her brother bury her poos for her.

PearlyWhites Thu 02-May-13 22:09:52

Op think you need to chill grin

My daughter has many nicknames but never bloody princess. Blech.

KikkiK Thu 02-May-13 22:10:53

My mum has been known to refer to me as Princess Grumpypants. I'm 32. hmm grin

Seriously though - OP, YANBU!

My girls are called "poo bot" or "poo bum" on a regular basis. Not sure what impact it will have on them in later life! They appear reasonably well adjusted at the ages of 6 and 8.

littleblackno Thu 02-May-13 22:12:59

I don't call my dd a princess but, she calls me your majesty.

5madthings Thu 02-May-13 22:14:25

I am going to pit dd I'm her "this princess is guarded by four big brothers" top with stripey leggings and a pink tutu tomorrow just because of this thread grin

My dad called me princess and my name ,means princess, which I took great delight in as my sisters name meant bluey green plant of the moors, sons crap meaning in comparison grin

Fgs some of you are over thinking, I still call my sister toadface, she is nearly 30 an ddoesnt appear to be harmed by it.

AmandaPayneAteTooMuchChocolate Thu 02-May-13 22:16:28

Neither of my daughters is a princess. I can't stand it myself.

It's not about giving them silly nicknames. It's about the fact that princess is an awfully passive stereotype. I don't think people are thinking of Kate MIddleton when they say that- it's all Disney princesses and floaty passivity.

I've never heard anyone refer to their little prince. But even then, princes are dashing heroes who do stuff.

Kasterborous Thu 02-May-13 22:16:47

YANBU I never call my DD my princess. She doesn't fit the bill anyway.

cheekychalky Thu 02-May-13 22:18:32

If anyone calls my DDs "princess/es" I remind them that they are NOT royalty, that they will have to work hard at school, achieve good qualifications, get a job and pay taxes like the rest of us.

I can't stand the nn

YANBU

sooperdooper Thu 02-May-13 22:26:47

I find the whole 'princess' thing quite irritating, and like others have said its such a passive stereotype and it just seems so ubiquitous right now it shows little imagination for a nic name, I've always thought a nic name should be personal and mean something special

Awitchwithoutchips Thu 02-May-13 22:27:00

My dd2 is not a princess, she is nicknamed Vita Benita, a mixture of mafia don & dictator , her twin brother is her henchman, he does as he is told, poor thing. You are not allowed to call him by any nickname, he corrects you and tells you his name.

louisianablue2000 Thu 02-May-13 22:29:15

YANBU, I hate it. If anyone refers to the DDs as princesses i always tell the girls being a princess is crap because you always have to do what your father tells you. They are not impressed with that (poor DH!).

Binkybix Thu 02-May-13 22:29:18

I don't like it personally, and also have an irrational hatred of little man, not sure why. Each to their own though, not really a big deal.

pointythings Thu 02-May-13 22:29:47

My DDs are not princesses. They have been called many things in their time: Fiends, gargoyles, sausages, chops, creatures from the pit, monsters, demons and Evil McBad. Never princesses.

Strangely enough they seem to have thrived on all this.

ComposHat Thu 02-May-13 22:36:46

A degree from a top University?

She went to St Andrews (where the posh but thickies who couldn't get in at Durham and Bristol rock up) and studied the History of Art.

She never reallty gives the impression that there is much activity going on between the ears.

But YYANBU calling little girls Princesses is teeth gridingly awful.

DoctorRobert Thu 02-May-13 22:42:02

YANBU. My DD is also 2 and I could have written your post word for word.

I have a friend who talks about her DS on FB as her "little prince" - that makes me want to throw up as well.

ComposHat Thu 02-May-13 22:44:49

I find the practice of calling gentleman babies as 'l'il man' as equally revolting.

Especially as it a euphamism for a penis - 'taking the l'il man out' could cause mass alarm!

NurseRatchet Thu 02-May-13 22:45:27

Kate Middleton is not a princess. Any title that is ever bestowed on her will be by marriage anyway so she's not a great example. I'd be more impressed if she'd ever done anything with that degree of hers.

Athrawes Thu 02-May-13 22:48:25

DS = Little Princeling (if other people are in hearing range and he is being a spoilt PFB, ironic) or Monster Munch

OhHullitsOnlyMeYoni Thu 02-May-13 22:52:33

I hate the term Princess too. Why is it emblazoned on everything in pink?! Urgh. I tried to be quite gender neutral with colours for DD but have to admit that at 20mo her fave colour seems to be purple - 'pupple' which I can just about manage in small doses. I dread the age where they want to dress up as princesses though and intend to buy her a whole array of other outfits - mermaid/pirate/farmer/doctor etc that I have seen online. I was a tomboy though, so perhaps I have a hang up about pink from that.
I used to get annoyed when people would say "oh but she looks so girly and pretty in a dress, you should put her in them more" but have to admit that she does, as do all girls her age IMO, but I can damn well steer clear of the logos and gender biased piffle that seems to be rife.

Don't get me started! I detest the whole "Princess" thing, particularly those car signs with "Little Princess on Board" on them. FFS.

Athraweslike you, we call DS Little Prince when he starts to sound demanding, usually while bowing to him and apologising for the lack of velvet cushions.

scaevola Thu 02-May-13 23:02:17

Kate Middleton is a princess. She's Princess Wlliam of Wales (same patterns s Princess Michael of Kent). I can see why they didn't go for that style, especially as HMQ seems to like giving titles as wedding resents.

ComposHat Thu 02-May-13 23:02:20

"Little Princess on Board"

That's where Diana went wrong, if she had one of those stickers she'd still be with us today (giving Kate Middleton evils no doubt)

natwebb79 Thu 02-May-13 23:03:23

It's the 'princess on board' stickers that make me want to vom. grin

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Thu 02-May-13 23:26:26

YANBU.

DD is 2 and sometimes refers to herself as a princess. I just ignore it, rather than make a big deal out of it - she'll grow out of it!

As at the risk of incurring total wrath, I'm inclined to agree that it's a class thing. Social class since calling daughters 'princess' is very Dirty Den. But also intellectual class. As soon as people whip out the 'you're over-thinking it' <stick head in sand> line, you just know.

Some people like to think.

sooperdooper Thu 02-May-13 23:28:41

Agreeing the Princess on Board stickers, I just think 'huh, so what?' it's weird and makes no sense, why do people have them??

BeaWheesht Thu 02-May-13 23:33:20

I hate the little princess on board stickers - I've seen little prince ones too though.

I don't call my dd princess because I'd feel like I was doing a dirty den impression - she is usually munchkin, baby boo or chatterbox blush

Ds had a themed day at school today an every girl in his class was a princess which depressed me a wee bit, the boys were knights and kings. Dd is only 3 but would choose to be a knight just now I think and I hope she doesn't lose that independence really. She does like princess dresses too but prefers rough and tumble!

OhHullitsOnlyMeYoni Thu 02-May-13 23:35:54

Bea I think my DD would have loved to be a Knight! She just found Mike The Knight on cbeebies and does a very interesting dance to the music and calls out "Night night!" whenever it comes on.

Laquitar Thu 02-May-13 23:47:23

LOL and YY annunziata @ 20:56:56.

MummytoMog Fri 03-May-13 00:03:10

I thought that. Then DD announced she was a princess, refused to wear any colour but pink and started singing Disney. I imagine she'll grow out of it though, and I don't mind indulging it for a bit. I don't find it as annoying as 'little man' tbh.

iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Fri 03-May-13 00:08:38

I really don't think it matters but I never used the term Princess myself.

Nicknames are not to be taken seriously.

I often abbreviated all my kids names then put Bob on the end. EG, Tom-Bob, Cal-Bob and Bell-Bob. blush. I still do this and my eldest is at Uni.

I also often add 'esky' to the end of their names. Giving them a Russian sounding name , Tom'esky, Cal'esky and Belly'esky.

Other nick names I have used include;
Sweet Pea
Chicken Nugget
Sweetie Pie
Pumpkin

I am not sure any of these names are much better than Princess.blush

Moknicker Fri 03-May-13 00:08:55

I was beaming (not so secretly) when DD threw a tantrum because she DIDNT want to be a princess but wanted to be a frog (for a board game).

But - when she asked me to draw a willy on her bottom, I was hmm - maybe I should encourage the princess malarkey.

Plus3 Fri 03-May-13 00:09:28

Nor is mine. she is a ninja.

IloveJudgeJudy Fri 03-May-13 00:11:48

Another "princess"-hating poster here, too. Really don't like it. DH called me it in a joke recently. I was quite surprised at the strength of my dislike for that word.

MammaTJ Fri 03-May-13 00:13:16

My DD1s name means 'precious Gem' (bet you can guess that one), my DD2s name means princess, which she is proud of.

Oh well, they are special to me and that is one of my ways of showing them.

You don't have to do that if you don't want to though. I won't dictate to you even though the mother of a princess is usually a queen.

Thisvehicleisreversing Fri 03-May-13 00:18:13

I agree that the 'Princess' car stickers and pink fluffy t-shirts etc are very boak-worthy.
However what anyone chooses to call their DC's as a term of endearment is their business.
My DH calls me princess, I'm not a girly girl, I don't wear pink, I'm not trying to be royalty, it's just a nick-name.

I called my DS's 'soldier' when they were little, I never intended for them to become soldiers when they are older and they've never played war related games. It's just a nick-name.

And saying that calling your DD princess is 'common'? Puh lease!

Chattymummyhere Fri 03-May-13 00:32:30

I sometimes call dd princess... She won't let you kiss her face only get forehead or her hand.. She does a posh wave..

But I also call her poo butt, pops, stinky, popper flopper, moody butt, grumpy pumpy etc

My ds has been spud bud, sir spudular, monkey, farty Etc

I doubt it does any damage I had many a nick name growing up from cute ones to damn right dirty rude ones as a teen

Numberlock Fri 03-May-13 00:33:41

I am going to pit dd I'm her "this princess is guarded by four big brothers" top with stripey leggings and a pink tutu tomorrow just because of this thread

Why does she need protecting? Is there an equivalent for a little boy 'guarded by four big sisters'? Doubt it...

Devora Fri 03-May-13 00:38:58

YANBU. I prefer the old school 'treacle'. It's what old men on the street used to call me when I was 3.

Numberlock Fri 03-May-13 00:44:43

Reminds me of Mike Reid on EE smile

brdgrl Fri 03-May-13 00:51:14

YANBU. The princess culture is horrible. Has ruined a perfectly good term of endearment, actually.

FreudiansSlipper Fri 03-May-13 00:55:22

YANBU

I have a ds if I ever have a girl no i would not be calling princess or allow others too it is not a role to aspire too and dislike everything being pink

pink stinks is a great website

ChippingInLovesSpring Fri 03-May-13 00:55:51

I use it along with 40million other nicknames - children seldom get called their actual name grin But I'd never use it when tagging a photo or when talking to other people - same with Little Man.

LouiseD29 Fri 03-May-13 01:21:02

I'm with you, OP. Will not be calling my DD a princess as I don't like the connotations.

Clearly though, that's just my personal choice and I couldn't care less what other people choose to do.

darksideofthemooncup Fri 03-May-13 01:30:57

I can't bear it, as much as I can't bear 'little man' or 'Hubby' or 'The King' as my (otherwise lovely and quite sane) MIL INSISTS on calling her Son. (an only child)

raisah Fri 03-May-13 09:20:34

mine is more like a warrior queen than a princess with the mayhem she creates and she is only 2. I am happy with this.

LookingThroughTheFog Fri 03-May-13 09:26:21

I'm not keen on 'Princess' either. I get a ridiculous reaction of 'so you think your daughter is better than my daughter?' thing, which is, like I say ridiculous, because of course they do. I still don't like the idea of giving a nickname that implies a hierarchy though, however irrational I might be being.

ryanboy Fri 03-May-13 09:28:41

I call my DDS 'princess' sometimes, because it is a sign that they are regarded highly by their family.I would never dream of aclling them a derogatory nickname.DD2 had a phase of wanting to be called 'spotto' at age 3 for some bizarre reason.I found it really hard to do so because it felt so derogatory! I would not dream of calling any of my Dc stinker, farty etc as some of you have said even when they were newborns, I know it is done in fun, but it seems so disrespectful!

ryanboy Fri 03-May-13 09:30:50

Also I coach about 500 children mostly girls each and every week.If I can't remember their name I will often call them princess.Do they mind? No they seem to like it

jennybeadle Fri 03-May-13 09:32:41

DD2 and DD3 are going to Brownie camp this weekend. It is in a hut in the woods. They thought there were getting a Bear Grills type weekend of mud and adventure. They are having a "Princess Party".

They are furious, and now think Brownies is a complete waste of time. They have decided that rather than bringing the princess clothes they have been told to take they are wearing a jump suit and t-shirt.grin

MiaowTheCat Fri 03-May-13 09:33:26

I was mummy's little bluebottle... so where does that make the OP stand?

Mine do get princess occasionally, along with cleverbot, stinkybum, stroppy knickers, gorgeous and all sorts of other ones. The one thing I do try desperately not to do is to have exclusively ones praising their physical appearance because I don't think that sets up for well-rounded adults in later life.

Generally I tend to refer to the pair of them as Chaos and Mayhem - which fits very well usually.

HairyGrotter Fri 03-May-13 09:33:44

My DD would like to be a princess, but she has never, and will never, be referred to as 'my princess'. It's a ridiculous ideal and not one I enforce. However, I know plenty of folk that do refer to their daughters as princesses and that's just dandy!

My daughter is referred to by her name, the name I gave her. I rather like the name and like using it.

5madthings Fri 03-May-13 09:35:26

She doesnt need protecting, if anythinv the boys need protecting from.her. As for is there sn equivalent top for boys, i have no idea it is a one off top made for mu daughter by a friend.

If i had had four girls and then a boy she would have made me a 'this prince is guarded by four big sisters'

Its just a top.and the only one that she has saying princess and is similar to the many big brother/little brother/big sister/little sister tops you can get onlu its personalised to reflect the fact she has four big brothers.

She occasionally getd called princess, along with many other nicknames. They all all terms of endearment and a bit jokey.

The backlash against all things pink and orincessy is understandablw but actually therr is nothing wrong with eithet except that people wouldnt put their boys in them making them.only for girls and thus inferior, if people also put boys on pink etc it wouldnt be such an issue.

DeepRedBetty Fri 03-May-13 09:38:08

Little Prince always makes me think of Gavin and Stacey. Alison Steadman's excruciatingly embarrassing, brilliantly observed, working-class made-good mum.

BornInACrossFireHurricane Fri 03-May-13 09:55:39

We sometimes refer to our daughter as princess (and our son as prince charming!) They are 2.

I don't think our pet names for them will overide how I encourage them to be strong and confident individuals. Yes we have a few pink toys also (which they both play with) but I am confident that my own feminist values again have more of an impact.

It's the whole picture.

Weegiemum Fri 03-May-13 09:58:48

I've got 2 dds (age 13 and 9 with a ds in the middle).

They ate SO not princessy. Dd1 plays rugby for her school and plays football too. Dd2 is a competitive swimmer. Ds is the one who does street dance classes!

Katiepoes Fri 03-May-13 10:01:16

I don't like it, but sadly have a toddler that is obsessed with all things princess, pink, glitter, fairies, you name it. My Mum finds this extremely funny, I've given in, the frilly nonsense makes a small girl happy.If she's still a frilly princess atr13 then I might worry.

I call her Princess Cheekyface sometimes, but more often it's Stinkypoohead , that makes her fall about the place, so I suppose there's hope...

CurrerBell Fri 03-May-13 10:45:24

Totally agree with the OP. It would never occur to me to call my DD a 'princess' - it just doesn't have a positive connotation for me. Mind you, DD is very literal-minded and will not tolerate any kind of nickname except her proper name!

DD wants to be the Hulk. She'll be 4 in two months.

DS on the other hand is very dramatic and screechy (he's 1). He's a bit of a princess...wink

evemore657 Fri 03-May-13 11:20:32

i always treat my daughter as princess..i once bought her a tiara made of smykker My dd wears it all the time..it somehow remind me of my childhood..believing in fantasies about fairytales..which is a good thing..

My DSD's "Princess" nickname faded out around age 4, when she began to act a bit bratty and entitled, as four year olds are wont to do. "Princess" started to turn into something sarcastic, rather than affectionate.

TBH, I've never been comfortable with the nickname for little girls - gives 'em the wrong impression about where they rank in the family. I am waiting patiently for the day she brings Daddy and me a cup of brew when we finally get to say, "I want a drink." grin

hely84 Fri 03-May-13 13:23:30

My DD says she is a princess, so who am I to say no, you're not?

NotYoMomma Fri 03-May-13 13:57:02

I think people need to concentrate on their own kids and not be bothered by anyone else.

Seriously, the only people who give mothers stick for what they do/ affectionately call their children is other mothers, it's all so bloody depressing.

For the record, my dd is sugarplum or chunk

thermalsinapril Fri 03-May-13 14:33:02

YANBU. It's fine to be a girl, there's absolutely no need to be a "princess".

Berts Fri 03-May-13 14:35:22

My daughter is a pirate!

EarlyInTheMorning Fri 03-May-13 14:38:45

My DD sometimes is a princess and sometimes a sausage

johngflynn87 Fri 03-May-13 15:10:48

my daughter is a monster

johngflynn87 Fri 03-May-13 15:15:27

sorry guys autocorrect! i mean musketeer, she just love to imitate what she sees on tv..



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NewAtThisMalarky Fri 03-May-13 15:21:44

I have a real aversion to the term 'princess' in relation to daughters, bit I realise I am being totally irrational.

My issue is that the only girl I knew that was referred regularly to as 'princess' was treated like one and was spoiled, demanding and badly behaved on a regular basis. I find it difficult to separate the princess tag with that behaviour (She could also be very sweet and caring, she has her good points too, just in case anyone thinks I am a complete bitch!).

I'm sure there are many princesses don't behave like that, and so I know IABU. But it's a bit like if you know someone called Tiffany that you don't get on with, the name gets tainted with thd individual.

seriouscakeeater Fri 03-May-13 15:24:02

I was my GD princess, my 1st dd was my princess because she was, and my impending dd will be too! If she wants to be prince then that's fine too! It's just a term of endearment .

fancyabakeoff Fri 03-May-13 15:52:41

Jesus Christ on a bike. It has come to something that in 2013 that grown women are frightened of the word princess and the colour pink!

imustbepatient Fri 03-May-13 16:45:41

I have never called my DD1 princess, avoided super 'sugary' pink type things, bought pink clothes in amongst a huge variety of other colours (eg blues,greens etc), buy toys that include construction sets, tool boxes and the ever present duplo as well as dolls and tea sets etc

I thought I was doing pretty well in the "well rounded daughter" stakes. About a month ago she declared that when she grows up she wants to be a princess and now her favourite colour is pink pink pink.

Despite your best efforts you may find she has a mind of her own. Which is kind of the point isn't it?

Never mind. Most of them grow out of the uber pink obsession before too long! grin

I can't see anyone on here being frightened by the word princess or the colour pink.

Just an aversion to the stereotypical box girls can sometimes get put in by people/marketing types/society of being a delicate, sweet princess child.

5madthings Fri 03-May-13 18:11:44

The problem.is that the pink princess thing is seen as 'for girls and only girls' so many posters are quick to say how their daughters are not girly girls like that is somehow a good thing or makes them.better than a girl who ia a girly girl.
Pink and princessy is seen as inferior and something to be avoided or derided.

The issue is not with pink.imo its the fact that we as a society have decided it is only for girls and made it into a negative. Pink is just a colour that many children like, including bous. But by making it into a girls only thing and derididing it it has somehow become negative. Quite mind boggling really, it is just a colour. Our children can wear pink and be called prince/princess without becoming a stereotype.

Maybe peoole should think about why they hate it so much and what message this negativity towards pink/princess sends out.

Being called princess, wearing pink doesnt make my dd weak or inferior. It doesnt stop her getting dirty, playinh rough and tumble or pretending to be a dinosaur which is her fave thing.

dearcathyandclare Fri 03-May-13 18:19:17

My darling late father used to call my children his 'little shiners' ( not in the black eye sense) because they made him feel that the sun was shining when they were around.
I loved that, such a poetic way of expressing how he felt.

makemineamalibuandpineapple Fri 03-May-13 20:18:12

If I had a girl she would definitely be my little princess. My son is 10 and he is still my baby bear grin. If I want to embarrass him it turns into schnookums wookums!!

5madthings Fri 03-May-13 21:04:13

makemine my ds1 is.called theodore, he is 13 and i still call him my theodorable boy grin

meganorks Fri 03-May-13 21:20:28

I hate it and hope no one ever uses it for dd. But not because of any sexist undertones but more because I just interpret it as spoilt brat. Maybe not that exactly but bossy, demanding, always wants their own way. Or that it is setting you up to end up with a DD like that.

Equally nauseating - heard people describing boys as 'little prince'!

Skinnywhippet Fri 03-May-13 21:25:23

It's a bit tacky. Mine you people would think I was odd for saying "little poppet" or "little darling" no doubt.

Flisspaps Fri 03-May-13 21:29:07

We call DD princess. She doesn't just see princesses as helpless, girly girls. She's seen Fiona from Shrek and Merida in Brave - well, before Disney have her a wanky makeover hmm

We avoid buying all pink for her (it doesn't suit her anyway), she lives in wellies, is a mucky snot-monster and loves Thomas and Mr Men.

I don't go in for the whole 'pink pwincess' thing and made a pointed remark to MIL a few weeks ago when she was trotting out some 'little girls are sugar, spice and all things nice and boys are made of slugs, snails and puppy dog tails' in front of DD, DS and DNiece angry

I think using princess as our nickname for her is the least of our concerns.

ConstantCraving Fri 03-May-13 21:36:41

My 3 year old DD, poor deprived thing, has no idea what a princess is having never watched Disney / any other films with princesses in. She loves animals and thomas the tank engine and would like to be a train or a pig. I do have pet names for her but could not use 'princess' with a straight face.

I call my daughter my princess as a term of endearment. I havent yet noticed it have a massive impact on her personality or clothing choices.

DownyEmerald Fri 03-May-13 22:25:14

I banned dp from calling dd his "little princess". TBH he isn't really the type, but I thought best to be proactive about it. I do think it has a subconscious effect on little girls - and their families as well - in how they expect to be treated/are treated/get used to being treated. Not suggesting that they think having butlers are normal!

DD2 is called a little princess - along the lines of "oh god is DD2 being a little princess again" when she whines or throws a tantrum.

Other affectionate NN have included muffin, farty pants and cheeky monkey

SantanaLopez Fri 03-May-13 22:26:29

I can't believe there's so much angst over a nickname confused

Oh dear, my ds was called Hobbit for a few years. I dread to think of the subconsious effect that may have had.

Clearly my dd will be a spoilt brat and my ds will live underground, wear dubious jewellery and fight mythical creatures sad
Im a bad mummy.

PaWithABra Fri 03-May-13 23:50:16

we call the our baby daughter 'lill baby' or just 'baby'

do i lack imagination ?

Still18atheart Sat 04-May-13 00:03:38

Growing up I was as princessy as they come. But not once did my parent call me princess or my little princess etc ect.

CookieB Sat 04-May-13 00:27:10

Are you actually being serious? Yes I call my dd princess now and again. She knows she is not. I also call her a witch too. She knows she is not that either. She would rather be a cat and I let her be a cat when the mood takes her. Im 100% sure she will not be psychologically damaged by my encouragement.

mumnosbest Sat 04-May-13 00:43:40

I didn't grow up into miss piggy, a flower or a duck despite being called all 3. Princess is just a term of endearment surely! My dd is my little princess, little monkey or monster depending on her mood.

Flisspaps Sat 04-May-13 06:44:55

Now sexy is something that I take issue with, for little boys and girls...

financialwizard Sat 04-May-13 06:49:29

My dd is 'Her Ladyship' and DS 'His Lordship' only due to their entitled manner!

Bonsoir Sat 04-May-13 06:51:46

The princess thing is a phase that many, many little girls pass through. Deny it them at your peril!

BinksToEnlightenment Sat 04-May-13 06:59:01

It's a lovely nickname. What in the hell is wrong with making out your daughter is special? I suppose we could all be too equal for that and do them up in camo and call them Mudpie. How very right on.

Bigger problems in the world, guys!

Mariannesmum Sat 04-May-13 07:29:46

I frequently call my daughter 'sausage'...she is definitely not a sausage. I have a friend who calls her son 'little prince'. It reminds me of Alison Steadman in Gavin and Stacey!

threesypeesy Sat 04-May-13 08:22:34

My 3dds are all princesses to us. Infact at the age of 28 I am still called/treated and act like a princess spoiled brat

YABU its nothing to do with you what others wish to call their dcs or how they want them to grow up. You're daughter might not be a princess but lots of girls out there are to someone

OhHullitsOnlyMeYoni Sat 04-May-13 10:25:57
Flisspaps Sat 04-May-13 12:01:03

OhHull That's what I was referring to by the wanky makeover. Bastards.

OhHullitsOnlyMeYoni Sat 04-May-13 20:45:42

I thought so Fliss ! Thought it might clarify for a few why some people find the term Princess so frustrating.

IfNotNowThenWhen Sat 04-May-13 20:54:25

I like your DD's style breatheslowly grin
My ds said to me the other day "you can't tell me what to do. You're not the queen".
I soon put him straight.

We told my MIL that we were calling DD2 Princess Princess. She is American witha somewhat underdeveloped sense of irony & is never quite sure about me anyway, so there was a long quiet pause at the dinner table while she tried to decide if we were serious or not.

CheshireDing Sun 05-May-13 10:48:54

YANBU.

Currently the only shoes that fit pfb feet are bright pink sparkly things AND I HATE that every time we go shoe shopping I had to specifically say to them "please bring out any boys shoes that fit too".

Sorry slight off on a tangent!

You could try calling your DD Trumpy Bum, it works in this house (although we may have to stop using it once she understands) grin

PatButchersEarring Sun 05-May-13 10:49:34

OP- I hear ya!

I thoroughly encourage my DD (nearly 4) to have greater aspirations than 'Princess'. If she refers to herself as one, I have tendency to reel of a list of far superior fantasy roles which don't involve being a doormat or are centred around 'looking the part'.

Thoroughly vomit inducing term IMO.

YANBU

ChunkyChicken Sun 05-May-13 11:05:28

Not sure if YABU or not, but I do hate that particular term of endearment.

However, I'm not 'above' anyone when my dc are pickle, snausage, snausage dog, monkey, sir puke-a-lot, snuggle bum etc etc etc.

CookieB Sat 11-May-13 02:06:04

CheshireDing. Buy converse for daughter like I did. Everything looks gorgeous on a girl with simple white converse. My daughter is pinked up to the eyeballs and I dressed her in cute denims, trainers and tops until she could have a say. She never had these stupid oversized headbands ever. She is 5 now and loves nothing more than a frothy dress coupled with doc martens! She is a princess but she knows what she likes. She hates her hair being done apart from me French plaiting it everynight so it is curly. She is pretty much a punk with a penchant for leopard print. Let your kid be who you can afford her to be cos when I was I younger I didn't have a choice.

NotSoNervous Sat 11-May-13 02:33:07

YABU just because someone calls their DD a princess doesn't mean they don't want something that wil make them happy when their older. It isn't your child that's even been called a little princess so your completely OTT.

I call my DD my little princess because that's what she is to me, I don't expect anyone else too

manicinsomniac Sat 11-May-13 02:33:47

composhat - are you joking? St Andrews for the posh but thick?? It is a top university, on a par with Durham and Bristol. In fact it ranks 4th in the Guardian league table at the moment compared to Durham at 7 and Bristol at 18! And I went to Durham not St Andrews so I'm not biased. To say it isn't a top uni is crazy; along with Durham it's a favourite for Oxbridge rejects.

I don't care one way or the other about the princess thing.

AgnesBligg Sat 11-May-13 02:44:07

Ugh, at princess. My DD is Mr Pinkerton and quite right.

She however, at 3, practices floaty dancing with her eyes closed whispering 'I am a Princess'.

The daft cow.

Bogeyface Sat 11-May-13 02:44:23

I am 40 and my father still calls me "princess", because it is a term of endearment. I use it with my own DD's because it means that they are special to me, thats it.

I think you are reading far too much into it.

Bogeyface Sat 11-May-13 02:45:44

Agnes and you think that calling her a "daft cow" in jest is less offensive than calling her a princess in love?

THat is horrible.

tvmum1976 Sat 11-May-13 02:48:20

YADDNBU
The whole princess thing is truly vile.

AgnesBligg Sat 11-May-13 02:49:23

Daft cow is also said with pride and love. You bint.

CookieB Sat 11-May-13 02:55:03

Princess even though they know they are not is a term of endearment. U daft cow.

CookieB Sat 11-May-13 02:57:03

I'd never call my daughter a cow. Cos it means slag where I am from.

tvmum1976 Sat 11-May-13 03:24:08

princess aspiring girls should be shown a photo montage of princess Anne and princess margaret in her later years.

MrRected Sat 11-May-13 03:46:21

I don't why people have such strong views about a term of endearment. I call my daughter Princess, Possum, Blossom, Scary (derivative of her name). None of them are based in reality. She is very clear on the fact that she is not a royal, is not small and cuddly, colourful or frightening.

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