to not read posts that don't have paragraphs...

(124 Posts)
Uppatreecuppatea Tue 30-Apr-13 21:39:59

If anyone is wondering why their posts don't get replies, my response is: use paragraphs.

It could be my dodgy eyesight but I just can't read one long paragraph that goes on and on.....

See how I did that?

Just sayin'

everlong Tue 30-Apr-13 21:41:44

I can't read them either. Makes my eyes go funny.

But there will be those that say tough and don't be mean. just wait and see

EglantinePrice Tue 30-Apr-13 21:43:18

YANBU.

Should be made illegal.

Are you the person who sometimes reposts the OP with paragraphs added?

Uppatreecuppatea Tue 30-Apr-13 21:45:16

No, I'm not - but what a kind person that poster is! grin

squoosh Tue 30-Apr-13 21:45:30

YANBU.

Paragraph free posts are like peering into someone's disordered brain. It tires me out before I've even read the first line.

Dogsmom Tue 30-Apr-13 21:45:56

Yeah I don't read them either, or super long ones.

I don't mind spelling mistakes but one huge paragraph is too hard to read on my phone.

YANBU, I don't either.

squoosh Tue 30-Apr-13 21:46:07

Ooops, I meant 'disorderly' not 'disordered'!

WorraLiberty Tue 30-Apr-13 21:47:35

YANBU

Even if someone doesn't know how to use paragraphs properly and where they go, I don't care as long as they break up the text.

austenozzy Tue 30-Apr-13 21:51:49

YANBU - I don't even bother reading them. It's usually stream of consciousness stuff that is disjointed or jumps about. Too much like hard work!

Snog Tue 30-Apr-13 21:53:45

I get upset when posters omit the final letter g from their words and substitute an apostrophe...

squoosh Tue 30-Apr-13 21:55:13

<passes Snog a hankerchief>

squoosh Tue 30-Apr-13 21:56:06

....or even a handkerchief. I despise my erratic spelling tonight.

VonHerrBurton Tue 30-Apr-13 21:57:16

Most are littered with horrendous spelling and grammar also. Triple whammy annoyance.

LadyBeagleEyes Tue 30-Apr-13 21:57:21

I find them really difficult to read so I don't bother either.
It takes too much concentration or I keep losing my place.

hermioneweasley Tue 30-Apr-13 21:59:29

YANBU. text speak also puts me off. And people who have given no thought into making the situation intelligible or cutting out wholly unnecessary back story ("and then they brushed their teeth, and then they converted oxygen to carbon dioxide, and then I said 'Ooo' " etc etc)

NeoMaxiZoomDweebie Tue 30-Apr-13 22:00:03

Do you read replies that don't have paragraphs though? Mine always do except when I'm being annoying and write them in a big old block of text to be annoyingly annoying...I don't do it often, just now and then and I try to punctuate correctly all the time. I think some people just don't think or care and they write as a stream of consciousness...I have been known to copy and paste an OP and adjust it into paragraphs, why don't you do that instead of having a little moan? grin Smilies can lighten a post with no punctuation but can also be annoying if used AS punctuation like this smile Or even like this grin Did you see what I did there hmm I used smilies instead of full stops and things.

YANBU - posts like that make my brain go squirly - and it's bad enough in there already!

Mintyy Tue 30-Apr-13 22:00:58

Yanbu.

I also quite often give up on ops that are too long.

50BalesOfHay Tue 30-Apr-13 22:02:26

What's the difference between disordered and disorderly then squoosh ?

SirChenjin Tue 30-Apr-13 22:03:10

YANBU

If you can't be bothered to write properly, inserting paragraphs, capital letters and punctuation then I can't be bothered to read your post. I'm sure you will be devastated to hear that grin

squoosh Tue 30-Apr-13 22:06:50

Disorderly - messy
Disordered - sounds more like a non healthy functioning

I think.........

I may be talking bobbins.

5318008 Tue 30-Apr-13 22:13:19

I used to think this too, but have softened over the years because, you know, this site is all about inclusivity, isn't it; folk who have dyslexia, or use aids, or readers, or speakers, those with literacy difficulties, they belong here, too.

Don't be snobby, or snippy, feel the love (and knuckles - Oldies will know what I mean)

rubyflipper Tue 30-Apr-13 22:15:26

Yanbu.

Unless the OP needs help ASAP.

Otherwise I can't be bothered. I do not believe there are posters who don't know what paragraphs are for.

maddening Tue 30-Apr-13 22:18:19

yanbu to not read whatever you don't want to read.

ywbu to reply to those posts with snipy "paragraphs please" type response - the people who write those replies generally come across as nobs in doing so.

50BalesOfHay Tue 30-Apr-13 22:28:46

non healthy functioning lovely shock.

squoosh Tue 30-Apr-13 22:30:26

That's why I corrected myself. Why the shocked face?

Is 'disordered' not more of a medical term?

squoosh Tue 30-Apr-13 22:32:09

disordered past participle, past tense of dis·or·der (Verb)

Verb

1.Disrupt the systematic functioning or neat arrangement of.
2.Disrupt the healthy or normal functioning of.

50BalesOfHay Tue 30-Apr-13 22:36:15

In addition to getting punctuation right it is important to get vocabulary right. If you are happy to call 'disorderly' thinking 'unhealthy' then paragraphs are not the key issue!

VonHerrBurton Tue 30-Apr-13 22:37:11

I agree with that, maddening, 'paragraphs please' following someone's disorganised rantings does indeed scream 'twat'. Just don't read it!

5318008 Tue 30-Apr-13 22:37:49

yes, quite, 50

(hey, hi five fellow number-name)

squoosh Tue 30-Apr-13 22:38:02

But I didn't did I? Maybe go back and have a re-read.

squoosh Tue 30-Apr-13 22:39:50

I corrected 'disordered' to 'disorderly' as I didn't want to imply 'unhealthy'. Let me know if I can make it any clearer for you.

usualsuspect Tue 30-Apr-13 22:41:24

Don't read them then, no need to be quite so bloody condescending about it though.

HousewifeFromHeaven Tue 30-Apr-13 22:44:52

This kind of thread is the nastier side of mumsnet IMO.

claraschu Tue 30-Apr-13 22:45:18

Not everyone is being judgey. Some of us have bad eyesight and struggle with this. The words swim about, and it's hard to find the next line.

We need help.

HousewifeFromHeaven Tue 30-Apr-13 22:47:24

God forbid any of you make a grammatical error from now on. I'm sure there'll be plenty who'll kindly point it out to you.

usualsuspect Tue 30-Apr-13 22:49:17

I hate this side of MN.

I will reply to anyone's thread I don't give a toss how it's written.

LadyBeagleEyes Tue 30-Apr-13 22:51:15

That's me claraschu, I wear cheap pound shop reading glasses and I do struggle to read them. So I don't.
I never ever comment on them though.

MardyBra Tue 30-Apr-13 22:52:38

I can't be arsed to read OPs which are in one paragraph most of the time.

Unless they start to kick off, then I might be tempted to wade through them. grin

50BalesOfHay Tue 30-Apr-13 22:55:11

squoosh disordered in your context is not past participle (ie, verb), it is adjectival. Don't you agree?

AIBU to refuse to read posts which justify discriminatory language with poorly argued pedantry?

WhiteBirdBlueSky Tue 30-Apr-13 22:57:22

Do what you like.

squoosh Tue 30-Apr-13 22:57:38

50BalesOfHay I did say that my definitions may be incorrect but it's pretty clear that I didn't want to imply 'unhealthy' otherwise why would I have corrected myself?

But please, carry on deliberately misunderstanding me.

bubblesinthesky Tue 30-Apr-13 22:57:55

I have dyspraxia. This means I find co-ordination difficult. It also means that I have difficulty working my way through large blocks of unbroken text. Thus I like paragraphs. YANBU

5318008 Tue 30-Apr-13 23:01:01

bubbles, I hadn't realised that, about dyspraxia making blocks of text difficult to read. Thank you.

Every day is a school day smile

50BalesOfHay Tue 30-Apr-13 23:04:37

Oh, and usualsuspect exactly what I should have said, but didn't.

Personally I don't read posts if the thread title isn't correctly capitalis... oh, hang on a moment...

YANBU to choose not to read them, but YWBU to re post the op, inserting paragraphs in where you want them to go. I really think its the rudest thing to do on MN, as its so condescending.

PoppyAmex Wed 01-May-13 09:11:52

"'paragraphs please' following someone's disorganised rantings does indeed scream 'twat'. Just don't read it!"

How true, it's especially horrible when the OP is clearly vulnerable and writing about a difficult situation. It's really petty and pretentious; I always imagine a Hyacinth Bucket type...

GoblinGranny Wed 01-May-13 09:25:47

if your comments are as shallow as your reasons for disliking a post, then the original poster isn't going to be missing much useful or constructive advice, so that's a win all round.
I find posts without paragraphs, accurate punctuation and with random spellings hard to read. I do skim-read them, to see if it is something important that I might be able to help with, or if I feel strongly about the subject.
If it is, then that's more important than the form of the post.
If not, I leave it alone.
Sometimes it is carelessness that makes a post almost unreadable, but sometimes the poster has other issues that affect their writing.
MN should be inclusive, that's why Pedants' Corner was created. Distressed Grammar Nerds have their own space.

coralanne Wed 01-May-13 09:31:06

I find it really hard to read posts that don't have paragraphs.

It would be equally hard to read a book that didn't contain paragraphs.

I always use paragraphs but rarely get a response. I think that that is because I'm usually a bit boring but I enjoy reading other posters' comments.

God I'm boring. Notice how many times I have tghe word paragrah in this post grin

coralanne Wed 01-May-13 09:41:54

bubbles how has the dyspraxia affected you generally.?

My DGS has Dyspraxia and he seems to be going OK so far (he's just turned 8)

I've just had my DM stayng with me for a week and I was looking for shoes with velcro fasteners for DGS

My DM asked why I wanted velcro and I replied that DGS couldn't tie shoe laces.

Her snappy reply was "Well then, it's about time he learnt"

When he was accessed and DD was given this news, she was also told that DGD was most likely the brightest child in his class.

We know that he is definitely the brightest child in his class because he's home schooled and the only one in his class grin

everlong Wed 01-May-13 10:09:51

I don't think it's being condescending to ask if people can put paragraphs in though.

It's not hard.

It just makes it easier to read.

If I open a post and it's huge with no paragraphs I won't read any of it. No great loss to anyone I know.

GoblinGranny - like other who have posted here, I find it very difficult to read a post that is one long, dense paragraph. That doesn't make me shallow, or mean that I don't have anything worth listening to, to say.

That's like saying, 'If you have difficulty walking up stairs to talk to someone, then you wouldn't have anything worth listening to, to say to them, even if they came downstairs to listen to you'.

There is simply no correlation at all between having a difficulty with something and an inability to be caring/wise/supportive/helpful.

SanitaryOwl Wed 01-May-13 10:40:20

I hate the posts in txtspk, personally.

bubblesinthesky Wed 01-May-13 17:13:40

Coralane

Like your dgs I had major trouble with shoe laces. Eventually my gran showed me how to tie the base knot then make two loops and tie them together so it looks like a bow. Its not perfect but it does solve the problem.

My main issue is that I can not drive or ride a bike. I simply can not master it. Also anything that requires precision hand eye co-ordination is a problem - so I am very poor at sewing, handwriting, any kind of bat and ball games (tennis, cricket, badminton etc.) throwing and catching. Also find things that require me to co-ordinate my body difficult so rubbish at dancing, hated gym at school etc. etc. Most jigsaws defeat me too - even now I have trouble helping my children with them blush

Mainly I get by day to day and I have a successful career but sometimes I get so frustrated when other people do perfectly normal things as if they are easy and i find them really hard.

Major tip - teach him to touch type. Get hold a touch typing program if you can. If he isnt looking at what he's doing he'll find it easier than if he's trying to look at the keyboard

makemineamalibuandpineapple Wed 01-May-13 18:17:17

I don't read them. It's too much for my brain to take in grin

cherrypez Wed 01-May-13 19:38:18

I am an English teacher. Amongst my classes is a bottom set Year 11 group. Two are pregnant. I would be gutted if I thought that those girls might post here and be ridiculed for their poor literacy skills. They are lovely girls with difficult backgrounds, who just don't 'get it'. And that's ok, because there is so much more to a person than their writing. Yes it's slightly annoying when posts are unparagraphed, but it's no big deal to me tbh.

ReluctantlyBeingYoniMassaged Wed 01-May-13 19:39:09

I must be shallow too because I don't read them either.

kingbeat23 Wed 01-May-13 20:40:26

Yanbu my eyes goes funny and I get bored after 20 million words.

Uppatreecuppatea Wed 01-May-13 20:51:33

I don't mind grammar or spelling. I just can't physically read one long paragraph.

PoppyAmex Wed 01-May-13 20:53:51

I think the "shallow" comment was about the people who post on the OP's thread just to say "I can't read this without paragraphs"; and yes that's not only shallow but rude and insensitive.

On the bright side, like Goblin pointed out, I doubt that type of person would have caring and helpful advice anyway so it's no great loss.

PoppyAmex Wed 01-May-13 20:55:51

And yes, you can refuse to read all the threads you'd like, you can do whatever you want. Just don't be a twat and post on the thread, especially if the OP is writing about sensitive subjects.

RonSwanson Wed 01-May-13 20:56:28

What a mean spirited post, OP.

Fortunately there are people around who may be able to get over the fact that people aren't quite so gifted as you in the paragraph department. I'm sure the paragraph-ly challenged must be missing your warmth and humanity.

Grammar police= so tiresome.

usualsuspect Wed 01-May-13 21:00:43

Threads like this put people off posting on MN.

Shame really.

MsJupiterJones Wed 01-May-13 21:01:50

I don't read posts with split infinitives in the title.

RonSwanson Wed 01-May-13 21:04:14

grin, Jupiter.

I may even ROFL a little bit

MsJupiterJones Wed 01-May-13 21:04:17

More seriously, I think 5318008 has it exactly right. Phone won't copy & paste but what you say about inclusivity hits the nail bang on the head.

everlong Wed 01-May-13 21:06:27

If anything hopefully people might think about putting in paragraphs because of threads like this.

It's not a slur on the actual poster usual just asking for a few paragraphs to make it easier to read.

maddening Wed 01-May-13 21:09:52

for those stating that it is fine to ridicule those who post without paragraphs due to their own issues with reading without paragraphs consider that the writer possibly has issues making writing harder.

It wouldn't be nice to be ridiculed for your dysparaxia would it? So extend others the same courtesy - if it's such an issue you can copy and paste into a document or the reply box and use the space bar to create paragraphs for yourself - or just close and move to the next thread.

usualsuspect Wed 01-May-13 21:11:12

If you want to ignore posters who's posts don't meet your standards then fair enough.Just don't start wanky threads,about it.

GoblinGranny said:

if your comments are as shallow as your reasons for disliking a post, then the original poster isn't going to be missing much useful or constructive advice, so that's a win all round.

Nowhere in her post does she say she is only talking to people who 'post on the OP's thread to say "I can't read this without paragraphs" - so I'm afraid I don't accept what you are saying, PoppyAmex.

RonSwanson Wed 01-May-13 21:12:16

...Or maybe people will just continue to post in the manner they see fit, and will continue to receive helpful replies, in amongst the bores who post 'ooh my eyes are bleeding, where's the paragraphs' and the like.

I rather hope this thread may make posters think about how unnecessarily rude about other people's grammar skills.

usualsuspect Wed 01-May-13 21:12:30

My kindle posts what the hell it likes

everlong Wed 01-May-13 21:17:33

Why are you so defensive usual? I haven't said that I ignore them be ause they don't meet my standards I said that I have trouble reading them.

That's it. No wankiness or ridicule. Just can't read them. Middle aged eyes or summat.

bubblesinthesky Wed 01-May-13 21:21:09

Maddening - I have not ridiculed anyone. I have merely stated on a relevent thread that I find it difficult to read huge blocks of text because I'm dyspraxic.

For your information I sometimes do copy and paste and paragraph posts myself where I think I may be interested and / or able to post a reasonable response. I have never posted a response asking people to use paragraphs.

However, even if people do not paragraph correctly (and I am not convinced I do) , it would be helpful if they could press enter and space things out every now and then. I will understand if you think I'm incredibly stupid but I am at a loss as to why people would have any issue that would make this hard to do. If they can type they can press enter. I am of course happy to be educated if I am wrong about this.

everlong Wed 01-May-13 21:21:27

And asking for paragraphs is not being rude about a posters grammar.

DrinkFeckArseGirls Wed 01-May-13 21:26:08

You were just asking for it, you know. Sometimes people have so much pouring out of their hearts and minds, they don't have the time to bother themselves with paragraphs. If you do, you have clearly nothing worthwhile to say. Can you truly understand that? I certainly hope so. Weather today was so confusing. Hit but with cold breeze. Hope I didn't catch a cold. The new wellies my daughter has are so pretty. If we had a dig, I'm sure he would've loved it. Would you? Do you? Life is a journey for us all. I really hate Mondays and Wednesdays are not all that too to be honest.

PoppyAmex Wed 01-May-13 21:30:04

No, asking for paragraphs when a OP is talking about DV / Emotional Abuse / Health Problems (insert as appropriate) is rude, petty and self-centered.

You can't/won't read it, that's fine - NO ONE CARES!

The OP doesn't care, the people who are contributing to the thread don't care about your absence, NO ONE CARES.

So you move on to a thread that meets your standards; you certainly don't add a passive-agressive shitty little post about your "dislike for lack of paragraphs".

I honestly don't understand how this is proving to be such a hard concept to grasp.

everlong Wed 01-May-13 21:35:08

Yep I agree Poppy. That would be rude. Asking in the middle of a sensitive thread.

But starting a thread to highlight the point isn't.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

usualsuspect Wed 01-May-13 21:38:31

Did you read the OP of this thread? It was bloody horrible.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

maddening Wed 01-May-13 21:42:13

Yes it is everlong - it is very rude.

everlong Wed 01-May-13 21:42:47

I wouldn't say it was bloody horrible confused to the point yes, but I've seen a lot worse tbf.

What I don't get is why is it so terrible to ask for paragraphs? Nobody is commenting on spelling or grammar. Just a few paragraphs to make it easier to read.

Hardly offensive.

usualsuspect Wed 01-May-13 21:44:28

It was the `see how I did that` that gave me the rage.

usualsuspect Wed 01-May-13 21:45:56

There is a way of asking, writing a look how clever I am post,ain't the way to do it.

maddening Wed 01-May-13 21:46:19

Bubble - my point is that you are not stupid - but to some grammar is a struggle so pointing out that in YOUR opinion it isn't so hard and just pressing enter is as ignorant as someone else saying "it isn't so hard to read without paragraphs" to you - and that someone who has difficulties interperating without paragraphs might have some more compassion.

PoppyAmex Wed 01-May-13 21:46:25

usual, for me it was the "just sayin" that did it.

everlong Wed 01-May-13 21:47:27

If I'm honest when I replied it was to the title and not the thread. It's a habit of mine.

But after reading it I can't say I thought it was that bad. A bit cocky maybe but trying to get a point across.

PoppyAmex Wed 01-May-13 21:49:11

Excellent point, maddening

Some people really struggle with syntax and punctuation and won't suddenly overcome their difficulties just because someone started a thread about it.

DribbleWiper Wed 01-May-13 21:53:31

If you want your post to be read and answered, you should try to make it as legible as possible as a courtesy to your readers.

Not difficult to press the enter key a couple of times.

YANBU

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

everlong Wed 01-May-13 21:58:00

Pulling up a poster individually for bad spelling or/and grammar isn't very kind. It's humiliating for the poster.

I cannot see how highlighting the need for paragraphs is classed as rude.

It isn't. It's just a question. Not a personal attack.

usualsuspect Wed 01-May-13 21:59:16

I see plenty of posters replying to posts that are not perfectly written.

So the ones ignoring can carry on,you won't be missed.

everlong Wed 01-May-13 22:02:50

But how hard is a flipping paragraph?

It's like there is an unwritten stance or rebellion on the damn things!

Pressing the return button is hardly arduous. I don't get it.

PoppyAmex Wed 01-May-13 22:05:28

Well, like Beer and usual pointed out, you don't have to worry about it because other people are happy to answer and contribute to those threads.

I could easily say "how hard is it to read a block of text, unless you're illiterate and have to mouth the words along?" but in this thread we already had a poster explaining she has a condition that makes that difficult, so there you go... people face different challenges in life and yours seems to be a lack of empathy.

neontetra Wed 01-May-13 22:05:59

I teach in an SN school. Many of my students are functionally literate and I imagine, when older, might enjoy posting on a site like this, and get something out of it. However, try as I might, I can teach hardly any of them to use paragraphs, and don't think I ever will. It is just the nature of their sn. Does this make them unworthy of human interaction? No. Thought not. If one can't read posts without paragraphs because of one's own needs, then fair enough. Otherwise, it is just like saying you wouldn't be friends with someone whose sn made them speak in an unusual voice, etc etc.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

maddening Wed 01-May-13 22:13:13

to some everlong it is hard.

I don't find empathy and compassion hard but evidently others do.

everlong Wed 01-May-13 22:16:41

But Poppy I might want to read it!

My eyes are really quite bad and I find one huge paragraph too hard, it goes all blurry.

But I wouldn't comment on there not having paragraphs.

I just find this attitude of ' well other people will read and post ' a bit silly. I want to read it too it's just hard.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

bubblesinthesky Wed 01-May-13 22:30:53

Fair enough Maddening though if you read my post properly you'd know that I don't really care if its correctly paragraphed but that I'd just like some spacing.

I am most certainly not the grammar police.

usualsuspect Wed 01-May-13 22:31:39

My kindle puts rogue apostrophes and commas all over the place.

Sorry about that grin

maddening Wed 01-May-13 22:32:08

I have dyslexia - reading is where it gets me. I should have issues reading long posts with no paragraphs - my coping strategy is rolling up line by line so that the line I am reading is at the bottom of the screen.

You could copy and paste and pop the paragraphs in yourself.

So there are 2 coping strategies right there and neither is hard.

PoppyAmex Wed 01-May-13 22:34:33

everlong, I can't put it better than Beer.

usual, my phone randomly auto-corrects to Portuguese when I'm typing in English and vice-versa. Makes for interesting reading!

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

usualsuspect Wed 01-May-13 22:38:40

If I'm on my BB, I post random full stops and o.

I really need a new pc.

maddening Wed 01-May-13 22:43:52

I know beer - which is why my first response to this thread was "Yanbu to not read whatever you don't want to read"

but everlong stresses her desire to read so in that case rather than snipy replies mocking the lack of paragraphs (not everlong but a regular and typical reply to such posts), or feeling hard done to due to one's own issues, if one is determined to read those posts there are ways around it.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

PoppyAmex Wed 01-May-13 22:57:34

Don't forget split infinitives <glares at OP>

coralanne Thu 02-May-13 03:25:47

bubbles. Have just come back to this thread but felt I had to acknowledge your helpful information.

Thanks

bubblesinthesky Thu 02-May-13 06:38:38

Poppy mine used to favour Norwegian! I finally found an option to change the default language to English so you too may be able to persaude your phone to speak your language!

Coralanne its a pleasure. I meant to add that when he's older he'll probably be entitled to extra time in both GCSE and A Level exams so he can slow his writing down though it sounds like that's some time ahead.

Maddening I do both already but as you know yourself its not always simple though it does help.

SacreBlue Thu 02-May-13 07:06:29

I like this thread, not because of snippy comments on either side of the arguement though that does lend a bit of spice but because it was a topic that sometimes might come up in a more annoying way on others posts but here got it's own thread to talk it out.

Posters clumping everything together were made aware that spacing out the text into more manageable chunks would make it easier to read and process.

Posters annoyed by lack of paragraphs were made aware that there may be a reason why the OP has not made spaces or at least not to be posting on the thread itself.

additional value in better understanding of dispraxia

I think allowing people to talk about this subject in a separate thread means there's less likelihood of it spilling into someone else's potentially sensitive thread, everyone learnt something - good, no?

coralanne Thu 02-May-13 07:59:53

SacreBlue I didn't think anyone would notice that I had hijacked the thread blush.

Everytime someones mentions dyspraxia, a light goes on in my head and I feel that I might learn a bit more about it.

My DM still thinks it's something we have made up.

Poppy - why is it self-centred to want to be able to read someone's post? How can someone offer help/support/advice if they don't know what the problem is? If someone is posting with a dilemma or a fear or problem, I don't read their posts for my benefit, I read them to see if I can say something that might help them - that is not self-centred, quite the opposite, in fact.

But a huge block of text just screws my eyes and my brain up so I can't read it - and yes, that is my problem, not the poster's problem, but please accept that I find it frustrating because I want to be able to offer help and support, not because I am pissed off because I can't get something for myself from the post.

LadyBeagleEyes Thu 02-May-13 11:49:27

I really don't care about spelling or punctuation, as I can still read the posts.
But with long, long texts as SDTG has just said, screws my eyes and brains up too.
I also don't care if the paragraphs are placed wrongly, as long as the text is broken up in some way.
I go on here for fun, and if I'm struggling to read something then I don't bother.
The same with textspeak, I don't mind it, but it takes me twice as long to read (I'm very old), so I don't comment on these threads either.
My problem, yes, which is why I don't bother replying and would never dream of commenting, that is just rude.

PoppyAmex Thu 02-May-13 13:35:45

SDTG, did you read the full thread? I believe it's been explained ad nauseum and I honestly think there's not much left to discuss.

I'm very sorry you're frustrated because you can't "help" these posters, but please permit me to offer a suggestion:

Perhaps you could accept that by not requesting better presentation from posters who are vulnerable/disturbed/have learning disabilities or don't care about it, you are in fact already "helping" them.

SacreBlue Thu 02-May-13 13:49:33

Coral smile I saw it as an important part of the thread.

I think we often do want find out more, or help more and it can be frustrating when we feel we could help more if only we had a bit more something it's actually a common theme in threads

If I had more time, or money, if my DP realised I needed a bit of help I could do so much more, if the LA had the funding for a TA my child would make better progress, if my boss would stop micro managing me I would be able to get on with work, if I had bigger boobs that dress would sit better grin

So sometimes we have to just accept our cup(s) don't runneth over - but sometimes we might get the more that we need. And that's important for those wanting paragraphs and those wanting advice, more of one, might mean more of the other.

And vice versa - those asking for help rarely nit pick the layout of replies (even if they totally ignore the advice) so a bit of slack for those upset or posting from phones or in a rush isn't unreasonable.

I don't request better presentation from posters who are vulnerable etc, Poppy - I have never said I do - I click away from the post, but keep my frustration to myself.

However, since this thread was started to discuss this issue, I don't feel I am doing anything wrong by joining in the discussion and sharing my views.

everlong Thu 02-May-13 14:09:26

Good post sacre I also think by bringing it up that it might make someone aware that wouldn't have normally let it cross their mind.

It's no biggie asking for paragraphs. It isn't a slight on someone's spellings or grammar.

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everlong Thu 02-May-13 18:01:55

Beer I totally agree with you. And all throughout this thread I have maintained that picking someone up on grammar, spellings is rude. Plus highlighting the need for paragraphs on a sensitive thread.

Nobody should be made to feel bad. But for the sake of my eyes it would be great if a few paragraphs were put in.

Anyway I'm boring myself now grin

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