to think you have to be a little obsessed if you want to lose a lot of weight?

(72 Posts)
lola88 Tue 30-Apr-13 12:34:07

I have 2 stone to lose i'm on weight watchers and have lost 11lbs so far and am really into it, i count everything i eat for example ds and i shared a cake so i put in 1/2 fairy cake = 2 points. A few people have said that counting everything is a little obsessive but i think thats the whole point. It's kind of bothering me that people can't be suppostive they need to see it as a problem.

Also i don't have scales at home to resist the temptation to weigh in all the time so i walk up to my grans house on a sat morning to get weighed DP says this is crazy going all the way there (15 min walk) just to get weighed, i usually go and stay for the morning but have went up twice just to weigh in on my way somewhere else.

TBH i'm a little worried that maybe i am taking it to far but on the other hand if you don't follow the program correctly it's not going to work. I've lost 1-2lbs a week on average which is the recommended amount. So AIBObsessive?

Tbh I agree- when you are making new habits it has to be important to you and therefore does take a lot of time and thought. Daresay it shouldn't make you obsessive, but I reckon it does!

haggisandneeps Tue 30-Apr-13 12:39:49

YANBObsessive

Like you say if you don't count everything its not going to work. I lost 10 and a half stones on Slimming World and you don't get that level of weight loss without making sure you log everything you eat and your exercise etc.

Well done on your amazing loss so far and good luck for the rest of your weight loss journey smile

princesssmartypantss Tue 30-Apr-13 12:40:04

i think you do need to write down everything you eat, if you have watched secret eaters tv programme then you will understand why! i did weight watchers a few years ago and found once i got into the swing of things you start to know what to avoid, i ate fewer carbs and almost no cheese as just too many points for not enough fun!
as for walking to your grans, the exercise is probably doing you good!
best of luck.

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM Tue 30-Apr-13 12:42:35

I agree. My mum lost 6 stone at WW, she was a nightmare to live with.

Every morsel that went to our lips was met with "do you know how many points are in that?" OR she would check her book and give you a full run-down of the point content or how many sins (or whatever they are) the offending food equated to.

We were supportive, don't get me wrong, but she was a nightmare.

Once the obsession lifted, due to massive change in life circumstances, she couldnt keep the focus and so slowly put on some of the weight.

You have to be totally focused/obsessive to lose weight IMO.

First of all well done on your weight lose. It is great you are half way to your target.smile

I think inherent in all diets is the need to be obsessive. It is either that or give up. However, I think it is also the reason why they don't work in the long term. You can't live your life forever, counting points/sins/calories etc. It is unsustainable. Better that you find a way of living healthily without following some plan. Thinking long term, when you have reached your goal, how do you plan on keeping at your goal weight? Can you see yourself doing this forever? Surely it is better to find a way of losing weight that encourages you to eat healthily so that you don't have to worry about what you are putting in your mouth at least 80% of the time (if you follow the 80/20 guideline for example).

I don't know what your DP has a problem with a short walk to your grans though. That seem to be a bit mad. He should be encouraging exercise and so long as you are going every day solely for a weigh in I don't see the problem. I am sure your gran appreciates your visit too. smile

People are just arses.

They wouldn't say you gardened obsessively if you read a few magazines, thought about plants a few minutes a day and walked for 15 minutes to a garden centre once a week hmm

I have no idea why people think its ok to comment on what you do to look after yourself.

Being 'mindful' of eating is good anyway - you enjoy it more and you enjoy the relationship with the food more.

Good luck with your weight loss smile - you're doing fabulously.

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM Tue 30-Apr-13 12:43:52

Sorry, that souned negative - I didnt mean it to <durr>

I shall be joining the ranks of the obsessive in a month or so, I have 3 stone to lose.

SoulTrain Tue 30-Apr-13 12:43:56

10 and a half stones?!?? shock

Yanbu
If I don't get a bit obsessive then I don't lose any weight! I lapse and eat unplanned food and it all goes to shit. If it's important to you then obsess away!

Well done....I would say you are more dedicated than obsessed and that is the only way a diet will work.

1-2 lb per week is a perfect weight loss so well done and just keep with it.

smile

aldiwhore Tue 30-Apr-13 12:48:58

YANBU.

It's usually why so many 'diets' or weightloss schemes fail, because it's a complete change, and if you're prone to eating too much then whatever you do you'll have to count something!

It's why I failed at even the best weightloss plans. Whilst being obsessed, I did really well. Then I got to a point where I just didn't WANT to plan every single mouthful, and slowly I was over eating again. Not massively, just that extra glass of wine on a friday, a sausage with my breakfast on a saturday, pudding on a sunday... and then gradually the weight piled on again. My lifestyle is quite sedantry to be fair, and though I make an effort to exercise, it IS an effort, I have to concentrate on planning it.

I'd be successful with a total lifestyle change I know. But completely changing youur lifestyle isn't possible.

KEEP AT IT. Keep tabs on it, and even when you're where you need to be for your own wellbeing, don't give up some planning.

The only way I lose weight is to become a diet obsessed bore, so at present I'm trying to be obsessed without mentioning it all the time.

I also haven't told my DH that I pay 'to get weighed' - being in a group really helps me, though I understand his logic - he's simply not overweight, and if he does put on a few pounds he cuts down slightly and loses easily. It's a massive MASSIVE issue for me and a struggle, so I'm trying doing it more quietly.

Good luck and keep on trooping.

Undertone Tue 30-Apr-13 12:54:06

Also agree you have to be very a bit obsessive to lose weight.

It's almost like the ritualistic aspect of analysing the content is like a positive reinforcing mantra.

BTW I am 5 stone down, and a size 12 at 5'7", and I am desperate to lose 1 more stone and get to the magical size-10 finishing line of 10 stone. Losing the first 4.5 stone took just over a year, losing the next 0.5 stone took 6 months, and I have wavered and plateaued for nearly a year now. I've run 5 half marathons, I go to the gym 4-5 times a week. 70% of weight loss is down to diet, and I have been too soft on myself and unfocused.

I got myself a personal trainer who is also great on advising on diet. She is helping me but it is still painfully slow. My friends "want me back" after all this time saying no to treats, so they're not great at things like ringing me up and inviting me for some vino. 3 glasses later and that's the day totally ruined in terms of healthy diet. Just a little compromise, every day, is enough to cancel out all the good.

People at work who bring round cake and say "go on just a little bit" are all bastards, too. Some cunt brought in biscuits today and has left the tray for people to help themselves next to my desk - AAAARGH!

Mrsrobertduvall Tue 30-Apr-13 13:08:24

Dh and I are doing the 2 day diet at the moment, and being very evangelical about it. This is the third week...I have lost 6 lbs with 5 more to lose, so not a huge weight loss but enough to make me look less menopausal.

I can see such a difference and it really motivates me.
I have just had a huge salad, and this evening will be having a piece of salmon and veg. Oh and sugar free jelly .
I find the rest of the week i don't want to eat crap after really sticking religiously to the 2 day diet. I've had no bread or pasta for 2 weeks now.

You're not obsessive at all...well done on your weight loss!

ButternutSquish Tue 30-Apr-13 14:01:25

well done you! Keep going! I have lost 9st over two years and for the most part you have to be slightly obsessive about it and put yourself first. I have a food diary that I do 5 out of 7 days a week and it really helps to keep on track, especially if you're having a difficult day.

So YANBU to be slightly obsessive about it, but YABU if you were to force it down the throat of others smile

carabos Tue 30-Apr-13 15:28:22

I'm obsessive about food, not because I want or need to lose weight (I don't), but because I'm trying to change some bad eating habits and improve the quality of what I eat as I approach the menopause. I don't want to end up one of those dumpy little older women who is perpetually a stone or two too heavy, huffing and puffing through hot flushes and all the rest of it.

I exercise properly every day and am meticulous about eating class A protein with every meal. I don't drink and I'm trying to wean myself off my major downfall - sweets and biscuits. I aim to eat no more than 1500 good quality calories and do 300 cals of exercise and the only way to stick with that is to obsess a bit.

Completely agree with what was said upthread - no one would bat an eyelid if your new "interest" was gardening.

Well done, keep at it and enjoy educating yourself about nutrition, it's fascinating.

HeathRobinson Tue 30-Apr-13 15:43:54

What you're doing sounds fine to me. Including the 15 min walk to your gran's house. Walking is supposed to be one of the best things you can do to lose weight.

Well done on your weight loss. flowers

shewhowines Tue 30-Apr-13 15:54:20

Agree. Dedicated is a better word than obsessive and you need to be to succeed. The day you stop being dedicated/obsessive is the day you stop losing weight.

Keep on with the obsession. Perhaps just shut up about it though and obsess quietly

Samu2 Tue 30-Apr-13 16:05:15

Yes you do..

5 stone loser and had to be dedicated and slightly obsessed to achieve that.

And now I have to be pretty obsessed to maintain it hmm

Samu2 Tue 30-Apr-13 16:06:35

Also, well done on your weight loss. You are doing very well smile

StuntGirl Tue 30-Apr-13 17:58:10

Well done! You do need to think very consciously of what you're doing at first. But after a while it will become second nature and you won't even need to think about it, in much the same way people of a healthy weight won't often think of their weight/how many calories they've eaten/how much exercise they need to do this week. But when you've overweight, you need to do those things to make the changes needed to reach your goal!

I'll be honest, it sounds a little to me like your partner is not being very supportive. It's this kind of behaviour and mind set that can lead to attempting to sabotage someone's progress. Please keep doing what you're doing and don't let him de-rail you.

pollyblue Tue 30-Apr-13 19:43:16

I think it's a really good idea to write everything down - it's so easy to forget about the odd couple of biscuits here, extra slice of cake there.....making a note of everything means it's easy to see where you are slipping up, and keep tabs on your calories intake.

I'm a couple of days into a plan to lose half a stone - for the first time i'm noting calorie content and it's been an eye-opener. There are 100 calories in just two custard creams <faints> No wonder i can't get my bloody jeans done up any more...I'm with carabos - it's about staying healthy and fit as i head into my 40s.

Keep it up OP smile It sounds like you've got off to a really good start, well done.

Areyoumadorisitme Tue 30-Apr-13 20:01:30

YABObsessive but you have to be, you're right. I previously lost 5.5stone by being obsessive then put it all on again but not being obsessive!

I am 3 stone down again and am being fairly obsessive BUT I think most of my obsession is in my head. I have the WW iphone app and point everything I eat and record it there, but I only talk about it if other people ask me. I will never put my points into the app when I'm with people, if I'm in a restaurant I have usually worked out beforehand what I'm having, if not I'll put in the points when I go to the toilet or when I am on my own at the table.

I cannot stand people who talk about it all the time, it is just boring to everyone and I really want to tell them to get a life. My DC don't know I'm doing it, my DH knows I am but I don't think I've ever told him how many points is in something even though I know most things in my head. I may say, when having a treat, oh I saved enough points for x or y but that is it. DH asks me each week how I got on but that is it.

I think obsessive in your own head is fine, obsessive out loud is a pain for all concerned.

Undertone Tue 30-Apr-13 20:38:01

Wellll... If you have good friends who you can lean on a bit, then being obsessive out loud can help - because then you have added pressure to succeed due to their expectations.

Yeah just eating healthily - never mind losing weight - you have to be a bit nuts too. Every item of processed food in the shops is basically delicious and easy... but it's terrible for you and is like a calorie bomb.

And i would pay good money to go to a restaurant where the food wasn't full of oil, cheese, cream, butter... And restaurant salads always have 'treat' stuff in them like croutons or mayo or bacon. And the portion sizes are always huge and skew perceptions of what is a normal portion.

I'm surprised we're not all waddling round like spherical flumps. It's SO EASY to put on weight.

nenevomito Tue 30-Apr-13 20:41:39

I agree - I've lost 3st over the last year and I got started by using MyFitnessPal and counting absolutely everything. It helped me learn exactly what was in my food and by adding in all of the little extras - like your half a fairy cake - it allowed me to see how easy it was to have extra calories without even thinking about it.

DH thought I was bonkers to count things like tomato ketchup - but it all adds up.

Coristarz Tue 30-Apr-13 20:47:05

YANBU - I agree with you.

The times I've lost weight succesfully, I was very determined and disciplined. You need to be like that to change your habits.
I've started tracking calories with the MyFitnessPal app as I have post-baby weight to lose... If I don't track everything then I'm cheating myself.

Well done on your weight loss btw! smile

Hercy Tue 30-Apr-13 21:11:15

I don't think it's a bad idea to keep a food diary/count calories for a couple of weeks, or even a month. But I think once you've had that initial period to identify the amounts you're eating, what you should be cutting out, cutting down on etc then a common sense approach is far better for you. I think anyone who is reasonably educated knows what's good and what's bad for them, it's just temptation that can be an issue.

I would hate to spend my life counting calories or keeping a food diary. I would rather just eat how I know to be healthily (which in my opinion does not include cutting out food groups but having a balanced diet), exercise regularly and have the odd treat. I think counting calories for any sustained period would lead to being obsessive, as would completely abstaining from a particular food group.

That said, if it works for you, it works for you. And if someone wants to lose weight on weight watchers etc then good luck to them.

CloudsAndTrees Tue 30-Apr-13 21:19:00

YANBU. You do have to be a bit obsessive over it, it won't work otherwise.

The problem is that that can become very boring for other people around you! If obsessive means that you are talking about it too much and you are no longer doing things that they used to enjoy doing with you, then it's understandable for others to get irritated by it.

When my closest friend was doing lighter life it became very hard work to be around her, which was sad because I love her and enjoy her company a lot.

specialsubject Tue 30-Apr-13 21:41:47

I would say that if you live in a house where someone thinks a 15 minute walk is 'all the way there', then that might be part of the problem!

that should be a mile each way which is a good part of the recommended activity level. Good for you and keep it up.

diets only work short term. Lifestyle change to balance what you eat and what you burn off is the only way to stable weight. Sounds like what you are doing - good luck!

Latara Tue 30-Apr-13 21:42:43

I'm trying to diet and i know that i've slipped up by NOT being obsessive enough so i've got to start again - got nearly 3 stone to lose! Wish me luck...

Uppatreecuppatea Tue 30-Apr-13 21:44:15

The fact is, you have to be selfish to get what you want. And if being selfish means you control your weight loss, then so be it. Good luck to you!

RandallPinkFloyd Tue 30-Apr-13 22:12:20

Wow, some fantastic success stories on here, really inspiring!

I'm just over 3 stone down with ideally another 2 to go. I started in January and have done it by weighing and logging every single thing I've eaten and drunk. (We have a thread on here called The Chiefs, were all doing different things but all using MFP)

You have to be "obsessive" because the odd half a cupcake here or couple of biscuits there is where the extra calories come from. Eating healthy meals is easy it's the little extras that sabotage you.

It also seems to be something people do because they're a bit jealous or resentful. I your DH perhaps getting all bent out of shape because you're concentrating on yourself more than usual?

Well done on all your hard work so far, half way there!

Alibabaandthe40nappies Tue 30-Apr-13 22:19:48

I'm going to disagree actually.

Any time that I actually 'diet' I get totally obsessed and all I can think about is food. I have been unhealthily overweight for over 10 years because of this.

Over the last 2 years I have lost 3 stone, and 9 inches off my waist. I don't count, measure, write anything down. I am the slimmest I have been in more than a decade.

milewalker Tue 30-Apr-13 22:20:22

I've now lost 14 stone and have been/am prob obsessed but I like to call it dedicated, i'm dedicated to getting the body i'd like.
well done on your weight loss so far and good luck with the rest.

StuntGirl Tue 30-Apr-13 23:08:57

"I'm going to disagree actually.

Any time that I actually 'diet' I get totally obsessed and all I can think about is food. I have been unhealthily overweight for over 10 years because of this.

Over the last 2 years I have lost 3 stone, and 9 inches off my waist. I don't count, measure, write anything down. I am the slimmest I have been in more than a decade."

Well done Ali. Glad you found an approach that works for you smile Many people find a much more regimented approach helpful to them, there's no right or wrong way just the way that works for you.

Alibabaandthe40nappies Tue 30-Apr-13 23:23:47

Stunt - absolutely. Whatever works, frankly! grin

HoHoHoNoYouDont Tue 30-Apr-13 23:44:54

I prefer the word 'focused' rather than obsessed. You have a goal and you're doing what is required to reach it.

Well done for the weight loss so far! Keep up the good work and stay 'focused' smile

thezebrawearspurple Wed 01-May-13 00:19:05

yanbu, I gained a few stone with my pregnancy and another couple of stone within two months after the birth due to medical issues. I was massive and it took many months of overexercising (tbh) and undereating to lose it. I still exercise a couple of hours a day just to maintain a normal weight although I'm slowly reducing that now in favour of more intense, shorter periods of exercise. The more you need to lose the more obsessed you have to be, it's a necessary obsession because it takes a lot of burnt energy to lose that weight!

CogitoErgoSometimes Wed 01-May-13 07:51:20

YANBU... Some say 'obsessive', some say 'focused'. smile If you want to do something properly you have to give it 100% attention. Especially something like losing weight which is essentially a maths problem. I'm losing weight at the moment and find logging activity calories burned and food calories eaten is very reassuring. I've even downloaded the 'Map My Walk' ap on my phone to track me when I do my lunchtime power-walks. (Recommend it!)

Keep going, don't bore the family with it and good luck

Tortoiseontheeggshell Wed 01-May-13 07:56:59

I wish I had to walk 15 minutes to weigh myself. What a fantastic motivation to build in a bit of exercise.

DinoSnores Wed 01-May-13 08:23:35

haggis, 10 and a half stone?! Wow, well done!

YANBU. You only need to watch Secret Eaters to see how much people don't realise they are eating.

ppeatfruit Wed 01-May-13 08:40:52

There other ways to lose weight besides cal. counting that's the Paul Mckenna WOE ( it does make you less obsessive because you eat what you want but much more slowly and consciously; BTW it effing works I've lost just under 3 stone to my target weight on it see our thread on the club page). grin

MansView Wed 01-May-13 13:42:23

you need to be obsessive about it and make it a top priority...

some fat people are just to lazy and even seem proud of the fact they're obese...they need a lifestyle change as they're obviously doing something wrong...
people will go into it half hearted and wonder why nothing changes...

there's a woman at my gym - she's on the large side (size 18+) and going on the running machine - but most nights she goes on it for about 5-10 minutes and walks at a snails pace...she's probably wondering why nothing's changed... sad

5 stone down here - and not obsessive. I do everything I can NOT to obsess, after years of doing just that when low fat/low cal dieting. Now I just eat low carb. I know which foods I can and can't eat, so that's what I do, and rarely count anything. I do keep a food diary, but that's because I find it interesting to look back on, not to keep my eating in check. I know that if I eat mostly meat, eggs, cheese, fish, seafood, poultry, good fats and green leafy veg, plus the occasional berry, then I'll lose weight. If I eat bread, rice, pasta, spuds, sugar etc., then I won't. Makes it so simple to stick to, without dedicating my life to counting and calculating!

edwardsmum11 Wed 01-May-13 14:15:05

I was an obsessed tracker of food when I went from 16 stone to 9 1/2 stone as I had to be. Was also an exercise nut.

MansView Wed 01-May-13 15:04:38

another thing is portion size...

how many people eat until they can't eat no more - especially when they go out for a meal etc?

to me that's wrong..you only need to eat until you're about 85-90% full...

If we are taking the whatever works approach, then the OP is BU. You don't necessarily have to be obsessive.

I don't like obsessive as a concept though. It seems to be a bit of an OTT way of thinking about it. Conscientious, committed, focussed, yes. But not going as far as obsessive.

I keep coming back to what happens when you reach target and your diet ends. What do you do then? Carry on counting every thing you eat? Can you do that for the rest of your life? Probably not, which is why diets generally fail. Better to change your lifestyle and eating habits than to be obsessive about counting everything just to get to a target you probably won't maintain.

Sh1ney Wed 01-May-13 23:20:21

Yes,you have to be dedicated and focussed and what people don't seem to think about is that that determination and focus has to stay with you FOREVER.

Last September I achieved my target weight. I was a size 18 and over 15 stone. I am now size 8 and weight 9 stone 3. I have maintained between 9 stone and 9 stone 5 ish since then and it really is very difficult. I know my exact calorie intake for the day < sadly nowhere near 2000 cals that seems to be the recommended daily amount > and I write down everything I eat. I run three times a week and do spin classes. I only eat three times a day and don't snack, I make sure my three meals are nutritionally sound and filling. I have two 'treat meals ' a week - at the weekend, where I will have a meal and a pudding and just have whatever I fancy with a glass of wine or two. I don't touch alcohol at any other time. I remain motivated for health reasons < I want to stay in as good condition and healthy as I can possibly be > and I also have a completely insane clothes addiction but that's a whole other story.

So, keep doing what you're doing. I love being slim again and I don't intend to ever be overweight in the future if I can possibly help it.

LittleMissLucy Wed 01-May-13 23:22:07

I'd say you do have to be constantly conscious of what your intake is and weight might be - but you don't automatically need to be obsessive. I can see how it might easily lead to that though.

ppeatfruit Thu 02-May-13 08:13:35

Yes totally agree with BBB and Alibaba are we going to see you on the Paul Mckenna thread soon ? grin

YABU It's not natural to weigh up every effing thing you eat and its not necessary see my post upthread. grin

Alibabaandthe40nappies Thu 02-May-13 09:35:43

ppeat - not me I'm afraid smile I am doing so much better just not thinking about it at all, even in the very relaxed way of Pauling.

Salbertina Thu 02-May-13 09:39:01

Wow sh1ney! Admire your achievement and determination, thats a huge turnaround, well done!

StealthOfficialCrispTester Thu 02-May-13 09:45:06

Yes! Op thank you have have put into words something that I've been struggling with. It's all or nothing with me, and until I can find the middle ground, i'll need to keep at "all" as much as I can

MikeOxard Thu 02-May-13 11:33:06

If you don't count everything then you are deluding yourself really. Have you seen secret eaters - it's shocking how much people can write off as just a little bit of a snack. They think they are eating 1200 Cals a day, when it's actually 3500! Yanbu, and well done. Also if you are trying to lose weight, a 15 minute walk there and back 'just' to weigh yourself seems like a bloody good idea to me! x

ppeatfruit Thu 02-May-13 11:41:11

Sorry Mike my clothes and the scales are deluded are they? IT IS NOT NECCESARY to count everything,you just change your habits, but as Paul Mckenna says "habits are stronger than steel".

Alibabaandthe40nappies Thu 02-May-13 12:44:27

Mike - so the 16lbs I've lost since Christmas are a delusion?

It is also not necessary to eat only 1200 calories a day to lose weight.

badguider Thu 02-May-13 12:49:14

Not unreasonable at all to keep an accurate food diary which includes everything that passes your lips. It's the best way to lose weight.

BUT.... it is unreasonable to talk to others about it (outside WW meetings or diet support groups). Nobody would be commenting on you recording half a fairy cake if you didn't talk about your food diary with people who are not on a diet too... it's really dull, and can be really depressing for those a healthy weight (taking all the fun out of eating) and can be triggering for people who have eating issues.

ppeatfruit Thu 02-May-13 12:51:27

True Ali In fact 1200 calories a day is not enough for a healthy exercising adult.

mrsmalcolmreynolds Thu 02-May-13 13:45:56

YANBU to do what you're doing - whatever it takes for a given person to feel in control and not to deceive themselves about whether they are actually cutting back or not.

However, I don't think that it is necessary to count every 1/2 fairy cake, or even calorie count at all. My DM went from a size 22 to a 12/14 (don't know exact weight loss but she is 5'8" so I would think two or three stone at least) by cutting out most fat and sugars, reducing portion size, eating a lot of veg and joining the gym. She didn't count calories at all, but didn't eat fairy cakes etc. (half or whole). She is very disciplined though, just hadn't ever focussed that on eating/weight before.

BsshBossh Thu 02-May-13 21:53:30

YANBU but I think the "obsession" may calm down a little as you begin to learn what true physical hunger, fullness, healthy portion sizes etc are and then become more able to rely on instinct.

I had to monitor calories religiously when I began my weightloss journey last year at 210lbs as I had no clue what "normal eating" for my age, height, gender, ideal weight, level of physical activity etc was.

The closer I got to goal the less often I had to log because I had learned, through the year, what a healthy portion size (for me and my TDEE) is.

Then I shifted to 5:2 intermittent fasting this year and finally learned to get in touch with true physical hunger. Fasting got me to goal weight (65 lbs lost in total). And now I can eat when truly physically hungry and stop when physically satiated (if I want to that is grin).

BsshBossh Thu 02-May-13 21:53:49

Persistence is key.

Fluffy1234 Thu 02-May-13 21:59:36

For 8 months in 2011 I became 'obsessive' with dieting. Sometimes it's the only way. I went from 13 and a half stone. After a couple of months of being at my ideal weight I became to feel more 'normal' about food. OP don't listen to what others say and good luck you are doing really well.

needaholidaynow Thu 02-May-13 22:07:36

I try to limit my wheat and dairy intake, mainly because they bloat me up like a balloon and I generally feel more awake and more energetic when I avoid them. I think I self diagnosed myself as being allergic to these types of foods, maybe I am wrong but hey. I also avoid junk 6 days out of 7 and on one day a week I eat whatever the hell I want.

My daily intake of food could be:

Morning Brew: Green Tea with lemon

Breakfast: Fruit and dairy free yoghurt

Lunch: 2 Ryvitas with humous and a slice of turkey on them
Piece of fruit

Snack: A different piece of fruit. A few nuts/ seeds

Tea: Fresh salmon with some Schwarz chilli herb blend sprinkled on it and fresh salad.

I also drink loads of water too!

Obviously that is just one example, I don't eat that every day, but that's more or less the amount of food I eat each day.

Mike - that type of thinking is the way to an eating disorder. It isn't normal to record everything you eat forever. I cannot think of a better way of sapping any joy out of eating. And add to that the hit to your self esteem and your chances of succeeding if you forget or can't be bothered and it is a recipe for failure.

Ali - well done! And I bet you don't feel deprived or like you are wasting your life recording everything that passes your lips either.

BsshBossh Fri 03-May-13 11:51:45

Some of us don't have to "count forever", thank goodness. Now it comes more from instinct. But I had to learn first. We all do things differently.

MansView Fri 03-May-13 12:16:40

yes - diets are a waste of time - you need to change your lifestyle, as in change your eating habits so that you can sustain it for the rest of your life - rather than do on some fad diet until you lose the desired amount of weight - then eat what you did previously and put the weight back on...

that's fucking crazy..!!

some foodstuffs are treats - nothing more...think back in the 70s (when I wasa kid) - you'd always get one fat kid at school / in your class who didn't want to do P.E. etc - look what it's like now...

too many people eating shit food, too many takeaways and fast food...back in the 70s - fast food was a treat we'd have once in a blue moon, not something that was part of a staple diet... sad

Too true Mansview.

BsssBosch - the problem is that for too many people, when they do stop counting they also stop thinking and they don't develop an instinct. 90% of diets fail. People are getting bigger despite WW and SW and all the other companies making money out of obesity.

I am glad your way worked for you though. Long may it continue. smile

BsshBossh Fri 03-May-13 12:34:23

BBB the problem is that for too many people, when they do stop counting they also stop thinking and they don't develop an instinct

That is very true. I think what helped me was that I was aware of Paul McKenna and had read his book. At the time of reading it I struggled with truly getting in touch with true hunger and fullness so I had to calorie count. As my appetite shifted I began paying attention to what a healthy portion size for me felt like in my body. Fasting has made me hyper aware of emptiness and fullness. I feel like I can embrace the McK golden rules again as it has become much more instinctive.

I just had to go on a long detour grin.

Am continuing to fast twice a week even though I am at goal weight as I love it and I like the health benefits (dementia, diabetes, stroke, cancer -- all in my family).

Loa Fri 03-May-13 12:34:42

I don't think counting everything during a diet is obsessive - its necessary and I don't get why people paying out money every week is don't follow the plans as frequently a possible.

I do think people are often unsupportive of diets - for a variety of reasons often seeing it as some kind of judgment on them.

I would class commenting on what everyone else is eating as being obsessive. I endure this and it isn't pleasant even when you wish the dieters well.

I think once you've hit your target weight and maintained it for a while - then counting everything could be an issue but that would depend on how well you can manage to keep the weight of.

Yes Bosch, the fasting does have additional benefits beyond weight loss doesn't it. I lost a couple of stone on AD fasting about 3 years ago but it got a bit too much to keep up - 3 or 4 days a week is a bit anti social even if nobody knew I was doing it at home! Two days a week is more realistic. The great thing was that even without following the routine the weight didn't just pile back on when I stopped. It did take while unlike a conventional diet when the moment you stop counting it goes straight back on. The hormonal/metabolic changes from fasting are far more long lasting than just plain dieting.

Lambzig Fri 03-May-13 13:43:40

I don't think it has to be obsessive, but you do have to follow whatever plan you are doing.

I lost about two stone using WW about five years ago. I only put weight on during my second pregnancy (DS is now 6 months) due to insane out of hand chocolate cravings.

I have 20 lbs to lose, have been doing WW for four weeks and have lost 8 lbs of that, hopefully will lose 2 more this week to take me halfway. it works for me. I just throw out and don't buy any more junk, make lots of veg or lentil soups (typically 3 or 4 points per serving) for lunch, buy lots of fruit and don't drink during the week. I also stick anything I cook through the recipe builder and then only cook the things that are 10 points or less for an evening meal. Once that is all set up, I don't have to think about it and can indulge in a meal out or a couple of glasses of wine at the weekend knowing I have the points left.

I find it so easy.

DH loves it as he does nothing, but loses weight too as there is only healthy stuff in the house.

I think if you were being obsessive OP, then your health and fitness is a pretty good thing to pick to be obsessive about.

lola88 Fri 03-May-13 19:48:02

thanks for the replies smile

I feel better now I like to think i'm just dedicated and I feel so much better about myself.

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