Blue badge parking and non emergency midwife appointments

(50 Posts)
sparklesandbling Mon 29-Apr-13 12:56:42

I know I know this old chestnut again but I am full of sugar and just a tad pissed off.

Second time a midwife on routine appointments at child centre has felt entitled to park in blue badge space. The other space today was also used by non blue badge holder - I checked.

Why does she feel entitled to park there when car park busy? there is a perfectly good road outside the car park in which she could park her car!
I have DD who is blue badge holder and the space is essential for getting her safely in and out of centre.

Please tell me I ANBU?

Pootles2010 Mon 29-Apr-13 12:58:00

Of course you're not bu. I'd speak to receiptionist at childrens centre, this really shouldn't be happening, and she should know better!


no blue badge = no parking!

i would complain too

redexpat Mon 29-Apr-13 13:19:41

She really should know better. I second telling the receptionist.

quoteunquote Mon 29-Apr-13 13:23:10

email the practice manager and ask if there could be more spaces allocated for disability parking, as now one of the staff is disabled and using the space.

and take photos on your phone to email to the practice manager.

SirChenjin Mon 29-Apr-13 13:26:52

Agree - email the practice manager and let her know.

AtYourCervix Mon 29-Apr-13 13:37:53

I think you should kill her.

Then you could start a thread moaning that she didn't bother turning up to a routine apointment.

sparklesandbling Mon 29-Apr-13 13:40:27

Atyourcervix I was not there to see midwife was dropping DD off at preschool as the children centre does lots of different things.

I don't know. Perhaps the MW was running late due to other appointments/home visits/people giving birth and didn't want to let people down?

AtYourCervix Mon 29-Apr-13 14:03:16

Oh. That's ok then. I'd still kill her just-in-case.

LaGuardia Mon 29-Apr-13 14:03:25

I wonder if the day will ever come when people just mind their own business.

Dawndonna Mon 29-Apr-13 14:06:00

I don't know. Perhaps the MW was running late due to other appointments/home visits/people giving birth and didn't want to let people down?
Still not acceptable.

I wonder if the day will ever come when people just mind their own business.
I wonder if the day will come when my dd can go shopping when she chooses to, not when some bastard decides to let her.

SirChenjin Mon 29-Apr-13 14:09:26

I wonder if the day will ever come when the people don't behave like dickheads and don't take up a disabled parking space when they don't need one?

The NHS does not turn a blind eye to staff who abuse disabled parking - we routinely get emails from property services telling staff to move their cars, and said dickheads are Dealt With. Quite right too.

propertyNIGHTmareBEFOREXMAS Mon 29-Apr-13 14:20:02

Yanbu. In a non emergency situation only a fucking dickhead parks in a disabled space without a blue badge.

sparklesandbling Mon 29-Apr-13 15:08:57

Round 1: I did tell reception staff that I had blocked 2 cars in that were parked in bb space without bb.

Round 2: midwife still parked in the space for blue badge. (2 hours later)

Said to reception staff AGAIN that I had blocked in said car. They responded that they were keeping an eye on the situation (I thought this was positive UNTIL they stated that the car park was busy anyway.

1. I was told that it was basically ok for the midwife to park there as she has lots of equipment that needs to be brought in.

2. They are there until 6pm so its ok for Blue badge holder to block them in as they wont need to move their car.

3. When I suggested that midwife has own space I was told that they cannot allocate spaces for everyone.

BASICALLY TOUGH SHIT was the message I took from this.

sparklesandbling Mon 29-Apr-13 15:10:06

I think a complaint will be in order. I was non confrontational when I spoke to this lady but seriously was this out of order???>?

montage Mon 29-Apr-13 16:20:38

It's a shame she doesn't even feel it necessary to pop back out and move her car to another space after she has unloaded.

She is either being very very obtuse about why people, including her own patients, actually need the spaces or she actually does not care.

Pootles2010 Mon 29-Apr-13 16:37:50

LaGuard - seriously? This is the op's business, she needs that space! Its not just there as a nice gesture, its bloody well needed, it's for her (well her dd but you know what I mean). Grrr

CheesyPoofs Mon 29-Apr-13 17:05:44

You need to take it higher than the staff on reception

ImTooHecsyForYourParty Mon 29-Apr-13 17:23:08

mind her own business? What the hell? She's got a bloody blue badge for her daughter.

Mind your own business, blue badge holder, you can't use a space for your daughter that the badge entitles you to use, because they're being taken up by people without disabilities, but shut the hell up cos it's bog all to do with you where they park, eh?

KansasCityOctopus Mon 29-Apr-13 17:26:20

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

I don't know much about blue badges (apart from never parking in a BB space without a BB, obvs) but is it illegal to park in a BB space without a badge? Does it make a difference if it's private land compared to say a "Disabled" space marked on the road, or a council car park or something?

The reason I ask is that I wonder if you could ring someone (council parking enforcement? police?) and just have the damn thing towed!

I mean obviously it wouldn't help your current situation because I imagine the towtruck would take a while to get there, but just imagine the satisfaction grin

Complain complain complain! I hate people who think that they don't need to follow the rules about BB spaces angry

andubelievedthat Mon 29-Apr-13 21:47:20

Health centre /NHS would need to have in force a contract with a towing company before said company would respond to a call, and if op was blocking in thecar to be towed ,well, midwife may appear and sit in her car/start engine so making any lift illegal , or even inform nice mr tow away guy she has to rushout/away to an emergency

CSIJanner Mon 29-Apr-13 22:14:12

Is this private or council land for the car park? I think the scheme doesn't apply on off street car parks (private) in some towns but you could inform the council who could take up the battle. If the parking space is legally designated, then it is a parking offence.

You could also let the local NHS authority know as its their midwife clinic and their staff. Not good PR for a NHS worker to stop those with disabilities accessing their local government children centre.

If you're just dropping dd off couldn't you block said midwife in? How do you know it was the midwife's car and that she definately doesn't have a blue badge anyway?

Weegiemum Mon 29-Apr-13 22:24:55

I hate this. I have a bb that I only use on days I can't walk far (about 10 days a month in between my treatments).

Today I had a consultant appointment at the hospital and all the bb places in the closest car park were taken by people without a badge. As we arrived at 8.40 (for a 9am appt which took 20 mins but we didn't leave until 11.25 - whole other rant) I can only assume it was staff. Dh took number plates down but reception said they couldn't take any action!!

I only use the space when I really need it. I'd really rather people who never needed it, never used it!!

dayshiftdoris Mon 29-Apr-13 22:25:16

Forget ALL of the other routes of complaint...

The midwife, even if employed by the SureStart Centre will be attached to the local NHS Trust, even if its just for her supervision.

Call the maternity unit and ask to speak to the Modern Matron... Make it absolutely clear that she has, on a number of occasions prevented you from accessing a disabled parking space with your DD and that you have spoken to the centre to no avail.

I would let her know you have evidence of this (pictures) and that you expect it to stop completely. She has no BB and therefore NO right to park there.

If she starts offering compromises or excuses mention the local paper.

I guarantee that it will stop either straight away or after one reminder.

To my mind the NHS trust will see it as bringing the profession into disrepute.

Do you definately want to bring the big guns to bear on this though? She has a midwife delivering an important service there. Whilst there were spaces on the road when you got there can you be sure that she ignored them when she arrived? Of course the spaces should be free for those who need them - but I think the midwife has a side to this story too and a blanket policy of shooting her at dawn is maybe missing something.

MidniteScribbler Tue 30-Apr-13 01:09:10

I made a woman cry this morning because she was parked in the disabled space at day care when she had no right to be. There was only one other car in the whole car park, and even the space next to the disabled was free, so she had no reason other than laziness, which even she admitted. Quite proud really.

sashh Tue 30-Apr-13 04:29:01

I think the midwife has a side to this story too and a blanket policy of shooting her at dawn is maybe missing something.

The midwife is able bodied, she does not need that space.

OP I had a problem at one work place, the same person was not only parking in a disabled space, but one that was reserved for me.

I made a remark about how I wanted to key the car

The next day I was met by security who said I'd made a threat. I told them I hadn't, I said I felt like it but did not indicate I would.

But they stopped her.

Have you seen those leaflets you can get that say 'if you want my space you can have my disability'?

As this is NHS they have an obligation called 'the equality duty', it means they not only have to not discriminate but that they actively should be looking at ways to be more accessible.

They are breaking the law and you could get compensation if you were to take them to court. But it is a lot of hassle.

Tee2072 Tue 30-Apr-13 06:19:31

Isn't it illegal to park there, no matter where it's located, without a BB?

It certainly is in the US and if it isn't here, we need a campaign.

Dawndonna Tue 30-Apr-13 07:12:01

Northern et al
As I said before, if people have choices, eg. the midwife, then they should be using the spaces provided for them. Those of us that need blue badge spaces often have no choice. There has been many a time when I've sat in the car with a crying toddler saying: 'why don't people like us Mum'. She's 16 now, so I just block people in. Until I've got her out and into her wheelchair. The point is, is not about bringing in the big guns, although we should, it's about informing people that they have choices that we don't and if that means making a fuss, then so be it.

SirChenjin Tue 30-Apr-13 12:58:24

Those of you who are defending us poor NHS folk - please don't. We're not actually allowed to park in blue badge spaces on site, and if we do we can expect to be told to move immediately. If we persist then it can become a disciplinary matter.

SoupDragon Tue 30-Apr-13 13:03:08

How do you know it was the midwife's car and that she definately doesn't have a blue badge anyway?

Presumably because there wasn't a blue badge in her car. That's a big clue.

Pixel Tue 30-Apr-13 18:10:08

Yes, it's not enough to own a blue badge, it has to be correctly displayed. There have been cases here where people have got a fine for having a perfectly valid badge displayed upside down.

Flisspaps Tue 30-Apr-13 18:12:39

Do you have a healthwatch scheme in your area? You can contact them too smile

YANBU - complain!

sparklesandbling Tue 30-Apr-13 18:29:16

Hi thanks everyone. I think I will complain.
I am not normally confrontational but the next person who needs the space might have the same problem.

I know the midwife has no need to park there and she has no blue badge as she blocked my car in about 3 weeks ago and as we were leaving she pointed at DD and said 'oh I blocked u in, do u need me to move?'

Because of the way she had parked I could just about get out and as we were leaving I did not want to delay as DD would have kicked off so I said that I could get out and left it like that! Stupid I know!

She was sheepish and appeared embarrassed but obviously was just because she got caught in the act!!!

Oh and the space she was parked in that time has hatched lines across and DO NOT PARK across it.

SirChenjin Tue 30-Apr-13 18:52:11

Good for you Sparkling, hope you get a resolution.

JamieandtheMagicTorch Tue 30-Apr-13 19:17:01

Midnite - how did you do that?


decaffwithcream Tue 30-Apr-13 21:48:05

"she blocked my car in about 3 weeks ago and as we were leaving she pointed at DD and said 'oh I blocked u in, do u need me to move?' "

Did she point at your DD and say that because she had spotted that your DD was disabled and that therefore you were the people she had blocked in?

Your poor daughter. My (very obviously disabled) child hates being pointed at. I don't think much of her way of dealing with that.

So she was aware she had blocked a car in the disabled space - and did it anyway.

And now she goes ahead and actually takes up the space herself.

Her embarrassment didn't result in much self-reflection then.

If she is blocking in cars parked in the disabled space, and the receptionist is defending her parking there, I wonder if she feels it is "her" space?!

DoubleLifeIsALifeHalved Tue 30-Apr-13 23:59:56

Definitely complain, disabled bays are there for a reason, they are not a friendly preference or a vague indication that anyone can park there as long as they feel they need to... And it makes me sad and angry that people don't give a shit about why someone might have a blue badge in the first place.

Life as a disabled person / mum of disabled person etc is HARD, not a tiny bit more tricky, but horribly drainingly gut wrenchingly and soul destroyingly hard. If someone decides their 'need' is greater than that, cos they're late, or tired, or can't find a space, or have a heavy bag... Well, that shows they have NO IDEA.

It doesn't just make it 'a bit more inconvenient' for a disabled person, it makes life impossible. It means disabled people can't be independent, it pushes people further indoors, out of society, out of sight. And it's horribly horribly cruel. Not exaggerating, that's the very inconvenient truth.

(Grrrrr. Rant over)

Mspontipine Wed 01-May-13 00:25:56

LaGuardia Mon 29-Apr-13 14:03:25
I wonder if the day will ever come when people just mind their own business.

But wouldn't MN be a very dull place indeed.

MrsSpagBol Wed 01-May-13 02:39:18

LaGuardia please read Doublelife's post.

SirChenjin Wed 01-May-13 08:03:37

Well said DoubleLife

DoubleLifeIsALifeHalved Wed 01-May-13 19:10:40

Thank you! It's something I feel quite strongly about... And attitudes are getting worse, not ok, I wish people would realise what they are doing sad

PigeonPie Wed 01-May-13 19:30:27

I was without my BB for a month after the old one ran out and I had to wait for assessments etc for the new one. It was awful and I don't want to repeat it but it has made me realise how much I do need it and how much I appreciate that extra help.

OP, I would definitely take it further - it's just not acceptable.

greenfolder Wed 01-May-13 20:35:32

they have identified that they need 2 disabled spaces. surely they can bung a sign up on one of the other bays saying staff only? they are a doctors ffs.

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