To wonder when hairdressers will realise... (Trivial)

(75 Posts)
HaveTeaWillSurvive Sat 27-Apr-13 21:04:13

That no-one wants a head massage when their necks are going to break on those awful hair washy sinks?

Seems to be a lot of hairdresser threads going on at the moment but I'm still bruised after getting my hair done on Wed and I'm just wondering if anyone actually finds them relaxing or are you all just as desperate as me to get the hair washing bit over with!

Clearly not the end of the world but they didn't even ask this time so I could opt out. So, AIBU to ask for hairdressers to go back to just a quick wash and a chat about your holidays?

<skulks off to rub neck and sooth with liberal wine >

rubyflipper Sat 27-Apr-13 21:09:38


I don't want hairdressers to talk to me. I go to a salon for peace and quiet - not inane chat about holidays

HoveringKestrel Sat 27-Apr-13 21:11:15


I get my hair cut a lot, and I don't like reaching my skull back 130 degrees for this so called pleasure they call a hair wash.

I don't think head massages are welcome in an experience like a haircut. You go there to look better. Not therapy. You make what you want out of the experience, whether it cheers you up or bores the shit out of you, but it shouldn't be pushed on you.

BimbaBirba Sat 27-Apr-13 21:12:50

Are you kidding? I LOVE that head massage at the hairdresser's! The only down side is that it only lasts a couple of minutes and I feel like telling them "please don't stop"'every time!

HumphreyCobbler Sat 27-Apr-13 21:13:09

I like having my hair washed at the hair dressers. It doesn't seem uncomfortable.

LadyBeagleEyes Sat 27-Apr-13 21:13:27

I like it, it's relaxing.
I could do without the inane chatter though.

Doodledumdums Sat 27-Apr-13 21:14:53

YADNBU! I hate it soooo much!

sweetestcup Sat 27-Apr-13 21:15:57

I normally enjoy it but today as Im suffering from labyrthinitis and vertigo it was making me feel really weird after a bit! And I love the inane chit chat about holidays so I could boast about my upcoming California road trip

AlnwickRose Sat 27-Apr-13 21:16:45

I like it. When done well.

Springforward Sat 27-Apr-13 21:17:53

YANBU. I usually explain that I don't find it comfortable to lean back on the sinks for long (old injury from car accident) and I sit up while the conditioner works, with the bonus that I get to skip the head massage. No one's ever seemed to mind, in fact it must give their hands a break, surely?

HappilyChatterly Sat 27-Apr-13 21:19:27

YABU, I love the hair washing part! I love the water, smell of the product, massage. I don't love the feeling of the sink but the rest more than makes up for it. Ooooh and I like how I always think that the water has definately trickled down my neck to my clothes but it never does. Going to book an appointment...thanks for the reminder! grin

I don't like it either, but have never felt bruised afterwards. I like the chatter though (but then again I'm one of those seemingly rare peope who are happy to chat with cashiers in supermarkets).

diddl Sat 27-Apr-13 21:21:16

I'm a shortarse & have always found it uncomfortable.

Plus hated having hair washed.

Oh the joy when hairdresser came here & I had a plant spray wet trim!

WipsGlitter Sat 27-Apr-13 21:21:25

I don't mind it. But the basins break my neck. Plus I can never hear when they're withering because of all the noisy hair dryers!!!

In fact if I remember I wash my own hair before going so that I can just get it damped and cut out the washing stage altogether.

thenightsky Sat 27-Apr-13 21:23:31

I have to take strong painkillers with codeine before I go to the hairdressers, purely for the agony that is the bloody sink. I have the beginnings of arthritis in my neck and I'm seriously thinking I should just turn up there with wet hair so I can skip the washing bit.

Euphemia Sat 27-Apr-13 21:31:17

I hate the head massage. It's too intimate. I only like my DH stroking me. blush

ukatlast Sat 27-Apr-13 21:31:27

'I like having my hair washed at the hair dressers. It doesn't seem uncomfortable.'

It can be excruciatingly painful for me but in recent years I have noticed many places now have ergonomic sinks which are much better - it's all in the design. If the sink doesn't hurt me, I enjoy the head massage.
13 years ago a hairdresser told me her special sinks were her salon's USP alongside the competition.

The sinks in my salon are fairly comfortable, I just don't like being touched by random strangers that much, never have beauty treatments for the same reason.

gordyslovesheep Sat 27-Apr-13 21:35:33

I have real 'issues' with being massaged anyway but I told them not to do it so they don't - I am short and find the basins uncomfy - although my new salon has lovely relaxing chairs where you can lie back so that's nicer

I don't mind chatting either - inane but it passes the time

I hate being faffed with though - I hate 'product' (sensitive scalp) and I wish they could wash and cut it without drying and straightening it - but mine needs to be dry and straight to cut apparently (sharp bob) - first thing I do when I get home ...wash it grin

Grange Sat 27-Apr-13 21:37:29

My hairdressers have moved on to head massage with some kind of aromatherapy hair oil before washing. Much better experience.

PenelopePortrait Sat 27-Apr-13 21:38:41

I love having my hair washed and head massaged. If I had the money I would never wash and dry my own hair again. [goes to check lottery ticket]

Still18atheart Sat 27-Apr-13 21:42:49

I love the hair washing head massage thing. It's bit I can sit back and relax, without making inane chit chat apart from when the hairdryer is going, course

Oh man, I can't be the only one that finds the massage marginally orgasmuc, can I?

LeChatRouge Sat 27-Apr-13 21:44:44

As an ex stylist, can I ask you guys to be more honest!
The last thing I would have wanted was uncomfortable clients. If you don't want to chat, just say. Can you imagine what it is like having the same conversations all day long anyway grin
If you hate the massage, say! I hate them too and tell my hairwasher not to bother.

Jinsei Sat 27-Apr-13 21:45:40

I love it!! I don't find it at all uncomfortable. confused

Callycat Sat 27-Apr-13 21:47:51

I'm with Euphemia. It's a level of intimacy that I don't want from a stranger.

Then again I'm a miserable old bugger who hates social interaction grin

Callycat Sat 27-Apr-13 21:48:55

Oh, and ... last time I had it done, the hairdresser sat me down afterwards and asked if I'd "enjoyed that?" Eurgh! Felt like I'd paid for sex, or something. Yuck.


Euphemia Sat 27-Apr-13 21:50:52

Me too Cally! I'd rather go to the dentist than the hairdresser - it only takes 5 minutes rather than 2.5 hours, and I'm not required to make chit-chat!

I'm a teacher - I talk for a living. In my own time I like quiet. smile

I do ask my hairdresser not to put much product on and I only have a wet cut, she roughly dries it but I still don't tend to feel comfortable with the new cut till I have washed and dried it myself. She does do brilliant cuts though and lots of sound advice about shampoos etc.

Still18atheart Sat 27-Apr-13 21:53:57

Went to hairdressers last week. And I didn't even bother until i was asked for a trashy mag just got myself one anyway. I know i was probs being vvv rude but it mean silence for 30 blissful minutes smile

2.5 hours? What on earth? I'm in and out in 45 mins tops.

itsnothingoriginal Sat 27-Apr-13 22:11:55

YANBU those sinks hurt!! Otherwise the massage might be quite nice..

As for chit chat - I can't remember the last hairdresser who actually made any conversation with me at all never mind inane chat about holidays!!

Horsemad Sat 27-Apr-13 22:30:45

I love the head massage!

My hairdresser is going mobile - how does that work when you have a colour - does it make a mess of your bathroom when they do the colour?
Part of the treat for me is going to the salon, so not sure whether to not have my hairdresser come to my house and start with another at the salon instead.

i love having my hair washed in a salon. not that i go very often.

i dont like all the blooming chit chat though. had an argument with the girl doing my hair last year

her: where are you from (live in wales! its obvs im not welsh)
me: i grew up just outside oxford
her: oh, living in london is very different to living here isnt it
me: no, i grew up in oxford
her: yes, but thats part of london
me: no its in the midlands
her: no you're wrong, its in london

mentioned that she was maybe thinking of oxford st but nope... oxford st AND oxford are in london. there was no getting through to her at all!

i gave up in the end and told her i was mistaken and she was indeed correct grin

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams Sat 27-Apr-13 22:39:32

I have mine done at home usually. I had to go to a salon the other week, and absolutely hated the sink. It was so uncomfortable, and the 'points' came over my shoulders so I felt trapped <shudder>

No head massage though, thank goodness!

Primrose123 Sat 27-Apr-13 22:40:32


I love the head massage but don't get it any more because a mobile hairdresser comes to my house. I could really do without the chat though, I just like to shut my eyes and relax quietly.

EarlyInTheMorning Sat 27-Apr-13 22:42:10

I'm so glad you've started this thread. I find the head massage so awful I often find it really hard not to burst out laughing there and then. I try really hard to concentrate on something else and pray it's over quickly.

DearPrudence Sat 27-Apr-13 22:46:52

I hate the washing and the head massage and the chatter, but my hairdresser knows and always tells the washer to do it 'as quickly and efficiently as possible, with no talking'. Then I feel embarrassed and feel the need to chat away to the washer anyway.

The worst is when they stick their towel-covered fingers in your ears to dry them! shock I nearly died the first time that happened.

TheCunnyFunt Sat 27-Apr-13 22:51:34

I don't really mind it. But what does annoy me is that every time I'm at the hairdressers they stay almost silent and the second they start washing/drying my hair while I can't hear, they strike up a conversation confused

sleepdodger Sat 27-Apr-13 22:55:06

Ybvvvvvvvvvu I loves it!

woowoo22 Sun 28-Apr-13 02:15:16

I love it. Their fingers always seem really pointy and good at digging on my skull. Mmm. ChaosTrulyReigns - you are not alone.

chocoluvva Sun 28-Apr-13 04:45:52

I stand over the sink. The hairdressers claim they don't mind.

natwebb79 Sun 28-Apr-13 07:18:51

YABU! The gorgeous head massage is the best bit!

My hairdresser has to wake me up after washing my hair. It takes an age as it's so long, and I always end up falling asleep.

It's somewhat of a running joke in my salon now.

PimpMyHippo Sun 28-Apr-13 08:04:35

You don't have to suffer the awful sinks! If you really hate it, just make sure you arrive with wet hair already and skip the washing bit. I avoid the hairdressers as much as possible, sitting in front of a mirror while a stranger tries to make small talk whilst touching me is my idea of hell. If the hair washing bit was compulsory I would definitely start cutting my own hair at home... Having my neck bent back like that makes me feel dizzy and sick, ugh.

SueDoku Sun 28-Apr-13 10:08:50

I absolutely love having my hair washed at the hairdressers -- and having the head massage. My hairdresser has sinks that can be height adjusted so that they are always comfortable.... I'm another one that would never wash my own hair again if I won the lottery (memo to self: start to buy a ticket now and again...) grin

RedRidingChops Sun 28-Apr-13 11:07:12

YABU! I love the head massage bit, the hair washing bit, all of it. Only hate having to take my glasses off. Last time I went to a new salon and they had massage chairs, never sat in one before. Oddest thing ever!

mrsjay Sun 28-Apr-13 11:16:26

Yanbu I am a bit of a wimp hair sensitive even a slight tough and it feels like it is being pulled out my head I hate it I sometimes fidget around my hairdresser takes the hint , I dont mind the chatting though

catgirl1976 Sun 28-Apr-13 11:21:36


I hate it

I have patches of psoarisis on my scalp. Going to the hairdressers is traumatic and embarassing enough for me without the added issue of someone trying to rub my scalp

Worse for me is when a full body massage includes a surprise head massage. I tell the hairdresser about my scalp issues for obvious reasons, but when I go for a relaxing back massage and am drifting off but then have to say 'stop, no not my scalp please I am a minger with a scabby head' it kind of ruins the moment

mrsjay Sun 28-Apr-13 11:25:51

cat I had to move hairdressers because the hairdresser kept commenting on dds scalp and humphing about dandruff poor kid was mortified, It is psoarisis and she like you gets patches now and again I was livid and told the hairdresser that I wouldnt be back

catgirl1976 Sun 28-Apr-13 11:43:53

mrsjay shock sad Your poor DD

It's embarassing enough without people commenting

Poor love! I'm glad you gave the hairdresser a piece of your mind x

Catgirl - would you enjoy the head massage if it wasn't for the psoriasis issue though? I have no hair/scalp issues and yet still don't like it, but I would never go for any other type of massage either.

catgirl1976 Sun 28-Apr-13 11:50:25

Tbh I don't think I would

I just don't like people touching my head and I don't find it relaxing. Even when my scalp is clear I hate it.

I don't like the chat either blush

I just want a haircut. As quickly as possible with as little fuss

KindleMum Sun 28-Apr-13 11:50:55

I hate head massages from hairdressers but I simply tell them I don't want one. And on the odd occasion when I get an over-vigorous new junior who hurts me when doing the hairwash I say "ouch" quite loudly and ask them to be more gentle. I don't get the angst and suffering in silence.

I like my hairdresser though, and enjoy chatting with them.

mrsjay Sun 28-Apr-13 12:17:35

*mrsjay Your poor DD

It's embarassing enough without people commenting

Poor love! I'm glad you gave the hairdresser a piece of your mind x*

I did and I complained to the owner too , it is bad enough being a teen with scalp issues and acne without a snooty grown woman pointing it out,

catgirl1976 Sun 28-Apr-13 12:37:27

Horrible woman

I hope her nose falls off smile

Euphemia Sun 28-Apr-13 14:47:02

I can't figure out why it takes so long at the hairdresser. It takes the lad who cuts my hair about half an hour to cut and dry it, and the rest of the time is spent having the colour put on and getting my hair washed. Two and a half hours I spend in the place!

DoJo Sun 28-Apr-13 15:54:40

YANBU - I never have my hair washed at the hairdressers, always have a shower just before i go, turn up with wet hair and never let them blowdry it either (don't want mad static hair all day!), which does mean that the whole process takes a total of about half an hour tops and it can dry on the walk home.

Huh. I would never say Oxford's in the Midlands. confused

But yeah ... I don't like the chat. I love the head massage but I don't lean back on the sink for it, I just move my head and they never seem to mind. I didn't know you weren't meant to!

I hate the 'so what do you do' conversation though. I used to say I was a student and they say 'oh, mature student?', which makes me feel ancient. To be fair, when you're 17 everyone over 25 probably does look ancient. grin

Lora1982 Sun 28-Apr-13 16:09:08

Yanbu and i hate the way you feel obliged to lie snd say yes when they ask if it was relaxing. Also detest them trying to make me buy extras. My god the chat aswell, last time i went i felt almost rude saying 'so anyway i want my hair like this..'

I love my hairdresser. It took a long time to find her. She cuts my hair nicely (and how I ask her to! I know!!!) and she doesn't chitchat. Ever.

A 'how do you do, have you lost weight? How lovely.' And she gets on with it, without a word. I can sit there and just relax for an hour, it's brilliant. All hairdressers should be like this grin

Whatalotofpiffle Sun 28-Apr-13 16:13:23

I thought it was just me! They make my neck go dead, give me a headache and when the hairdresser applies the second lot of shampoo I feel like punching her!

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Nanny0gg Sun 28-Apr-13 16:26:55

Considering the job they do has a huge impact on your appearance and often how you feel about yourself, it really bugs me that, on the whole, hairdressers cannot do right as far as MN is concerned.
It's a highly-skilled, backbreaking, often poorly-paid job where they often have to deal with the Client From Hell.

If they are doing something you don't like/want, then just politely point it out. It really won't bother them if you don't want a head massage, but for those of us that enjoy it I hope it continues to be usual practice.

I wouldn't say they can never do right, mine does a brilliant job of cutting my hair and give really good advice about looking after it and never tries to make me have it straightened or blowdried as she knows I don't want it. She also doesn't give me the hard sell on products and I like chatting with her.

However with the massage thing I never really know whether they are massaging or just giving the shampoo a really good rub in so I would feel silly asking them to stop if all they are actually doing is washing it. I think if they are going to give you a massage they should ask you first, that way everyone knows where they stand, clearly from this thread there are quite a lot of people who don't want it.

phantomnamechanger Sun 28-Apr-13 17:14:25

I absolutely love the head massage! And I love having my hair washed - when you do it yourself all the feeling is in your fingers so your scalp does not feel the sensation in the same way. I find it very relaxing and could happily sit there for hours - but I would never have the courage to go for a full body massage, way too intimate! Don't like the chit chat though and find if I close my eyes they get the message.

The hairdresser who thinks oxford is in London has obv been watching too much Inspector Morse/Lewis where folk are always talking about Thames Valley and going "to town" means London.

everlong Sun 28-Apr-13 17:35:41

I love a head massage. I would pay them extra to do it longer.
I could fall asleep!

vjg13 Sun 28-Apr-13 17:46:50

I hate the sinks but love the massage and I'm not a massage type of person. I can see stars after sometimes from looking up at the lights though confused.

I'm a stylist too, just tell them. You're paying them money for the whole experience it should't be torture.

gordy just go and get a dry cut.

SirChenjin Sun 28-Apr-13 18:01:02

I love the head massage - best bit about going to the hairdressers. The talk about holidays or what I'm doing for the rest of the day I could do without. I spend my whole life listening to inane chat, so if I could I would sit in silence with my eyes closed and my headphones in, before emerging butterfly-like from my chrysalis (or at least less of a mess than I normally am)

midori1999 Sun 28-Apr-13 18:06:48

catgirl as a hairdresser (although don't work as one anymore)I can assure you that any decent hairdresser won't pay any attention at all to your psoriasis and although I doubt it'll make any difference because it's not that easy, there's no need for you to feel embarrassed about it. Psoriasis is surprisingly common and hairdressers are used to it.

I love getting my hair washed at the hairdressers. If they have decent basins it shouldn't be uncomfortable at all and the stylist/shampooist should check you are comfortable before starting washing. They should also really ask if you would like or are comfortable with a head massage, as well as asking if you mind certain products being used.

Personally, I feel that about 90% of salons are awful, both in terms of service and standard of cutting/styling.

kiwigirl42 Sun 28-Apr-13 18:11:37

I hate it. I wash my hair before I go and arrive with wet hair. Never been a problem

midori1999 I agree. I'm appalled at the standard of cutting. I cut my own hair and people always comment how nice it is. Good advertising wink

Plus plus, colouring is my passion as is cutting. I can't believe how many people have awful colours done in a salon! I'm doing someone's hair (home)tomorrow and the salon had gone to Home bargains for the bleach to do her roots! shock

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