Parents parking in my space on school run.(208 Posts)
A car park space comes with my house, its marked with my house number there are signs up saying private land do not park. They can't put bollards up as business next door has two spaces for customers.
Every morning and night parents park there for up to twenty minutes plus waiting for children.
This means if i come back in the car i have to park three streets away then move it back onto my space which i pay for when they are gone. this is annoying enough but last week my disabled DM had to park 10 minutes walk away as someone was in the space.
School have sent a letter home, council wont do anything as its private land, landlord has put signs up.
I wouldn't mind but they drive dangerously, pull into car park at speed, park on double yellow lines.
What can i do if anything?
Put a few signs up and get yourself a wheel clamp.
Can you get one of those pop up posts?
Who can't put bollards up? I don't understand that bit.
If they're parked on double yellow lines then they can be fined and I'm surprised that the council won't do anything. They shouldn't be taking your space and I'm amazed that the council don't send someone round to give them a ticket because it's more money for the council. All you can do is wait until that person comes back to their car and explain to them that it is your space and they have inconvenienced you - do it enough times and hopefully the word will spread.
How annoying and very rude! Do you ask them to move when you come back and there's someone there? Have you thought about getting some traffic cones and putting them in the space? It might be that they think (of think they can get away with it because) your space also belongs to the business. Do they park in those spaces too?
The only other thing would be to look into those lockable bollard things which collapse down flat. Don't know how expensive those are though.
Get advice from PCSO?
Take photos of all cars and bring them into the school / inform the police?
Block them in?
Leave very, very sticky notes on their windows that are difficult to remove?
If it's private land, can't you have them towed. Or put stickers (that are very difficult to remove) on their windshield that inform them that they have parked in a private spot. Or less dramatic...how about an orange cone to block the space.
BTW - wheel clamps are now illegal on private land.
These are the things I mean.
How bloody annoying.
Can you not put bollards actually in the space, so they would have to get out and move them before parking?
I would go back into school with the number plate and cause Mary hell.
For a start go into school again with vehicle numbers so the people involved can be identified. Wait for them to come back and confront them, with someone with you for support.
You could also try contacting your local PCSO who might come to talk to them?
Yes, I'd try a cone to block the space - if they move it go for the really sticky notes.
Leave notes on the windshield. Say this is a private park (clearly marked) which i pay for. Please don't park here again!
Traffic cone in the middle of your space?
Pop up bollard?
Rope slung between two posts that stand up on their own?
Take the number plates down and then go into school and complain very loudly to the head teacher and demand that they do something.
Put a large note on the front of the car, print it out in big letters saying this car has been illegally parked in my private car parking space. I have recorded your number plate, reported it to the school and if I find it parked here again I will report to the police (they don't necessarily know that the police won't do anything)
Ask the police if they can get a local community officer to patrol around school one afternoon and pay attention to your spot.
Block the car in with something
Talk to the business next door with customer spaces - chances are they get hassle too, see if you could do something with them to help all of you
Good luck - it's horrible when this happens!
Pop up posts are quite expensive though...
This would seriously annoy me. Is there any chance you can not use the car and keep it in the parking space ?
You need to keep going back to the school. Become a pain and go / phone each time it happens. Provide photos times regestration numbers. Insist the school names and shames the car owner in their letters home. Usually schools are really supportive as they like to keep their neighbours happy.
Second the traffic cone. Do you know any students who might have a spare one they have purloined on a night out?
How can they be parking on double yellows and on your space? The double yellow issue sounds separate, to me.
Annoying as losing your space is, it's the reality for many people who live in popular areas. And presumably the school was already there when you moved in?
I put the wheelie bins there and they moved them.
I am reluctant to kick up a massive fuss as dd is at the same school.
There are two business spaces clearly marked plus 8 house ones all cleary marked in front of our Houses.
The council ticket those on double yellows once every few months.
I've lived with Residents Parking, which I assume is what you mean when you say you pay for your space? This meant in practice that you buy a permit which entitles you to the theoretical right to park if there is space, but also that cars can park without permits for up to ten minutes - is that what you have?
Make a 'sandwich board' style sign which would stand free in the middle of the space.
You can write what you like on it - all the above about private space, no.plate recording and police
Can you block them in with your own car, when they ask you to move, say yes, in a moment. Then take your time.
They are out of order, you need to make it more of a hassle to them to park there than it is to find somewhere else.
Keep going back to the school, it isn't the schools fault, what do they do at the moment, how about suggesting naming and shaming. Is it the same cars each time?
They moved the wheely bins!?
I'd have to lie in wait and have a go then.
<angry for you>
I have seen how the idiots at my DC school park - all chances of being reasonable or polite seem to fly out of the window when they spot a vacant spot. The people who bought houses near the school ALL have issues like this so when I said move? I meant it. As long as the school is there you will get arseholes on the school run.
Our school has PCSO's or traffic wardens outside the school a few times a month which is pretty useful in keeping the area clear, I was chatting to one last month who said she had issued 12 tickets on that one occasion!!!
Leave a note on the windshield... give them 2 chances and if they still park there and you can, block them in.
Look at this site HormonalHousewife they have removable posts here for only 52 that's only £44 sterling.
You could keep it in your car boot OP.
Try to leave the car there for a few days so they can't park?
Or get a friend to park there - to block the space.
Get a placard and parade around the school at pick up / drop off times with the numbers / photos of the cars that are using your space.
I mean this in the kindest way but you need to toughen up a bit.
This is your space and these inconsiderate drivers are causing you considerable inconvenience.
It is a bit awkward complaining to the head regularly especially as your DD is there, but I am sure the Head would support you 100% over somebody parking in a private space on private land.
OP i would keep asking the school to leaflet the parents about suitable parking when picking the kids up.
My neighbours and i managed to get somewhere doing this. Eventually.
The leaflets don't have to mention names, just the spot/s where illegal or inconsiderate parking is taking place. No one is going to look at them and stand in the playground and say - ''hoi! that's me parking like a c***! How dare they complain.''
They'll just quietly park elsewhere - or carry on parking there. It wont affect your kids.
School will do absolutely nothing wrt taking number plates in etc, they have absolutely no powers whatsoever. They can put it in the school newsletter, but they cannot single out individual perpetrators, nor will they challenge any parents even if proved its them doing it.
I would be blocking cars into MY space if possible, and really inconveniencing them, or otherwise just call 101 - if it's private land, then can't the offending vehicles be towed?
I'm also a fan of the VERY sticky label idea!
Find out who it is then send them an invoice.
How annoying for you. Neighbours of our nearest school eventually solved the problem by having a large sign made (white background, red capitals) saying "No school parking - security monitored - £80 penalty fine applies". It really put people off.
If it's private land, can you get them towed? they are tresspassing, and doesn't that give the property owner some rights to do that?
Scarletfoyra thats fantastic thank you so much I am going to investigate further.
Last time we looked into this the cheapest was £500 and we really need three to 'protect' our spaces which is also on private road / land and therefore not maintained or patrolled by the council or traffic wardens.
Ask them to move. If they don't, is there any way you can block them in?
You can arrange for cars to be towed, but really, its very expensive (waits for scarletfoyra to come up with another link) and realistically the removers would not just be able to just turn up at that magical 20 minute slot.
They moved the wheelie bins
Block them in. It's the only way they will get the message.
Hide in the wheelie bin
When they move it, jump out like a jack in the box. Chances are they won't inconvenience you again
Block them in. When they come and ask you to move, make them wait. Next time they do it, make them wait longer.
Utter bastards. That is so so rude. It's private land FFS. It's just as rude as if they parked on your driveway!
I would get one of those little bollards and if they park in your space, you could always put it up and and leave them stuck there. Over night.
Don't park 3 streets away, just pull up behind the space and ask the person to move.
Be friendly but firm: "Hi, can you just wait somewhere else please? this is actually my private parking place for my house. Thanks."
yes. chat to your neighbouring legal space holder. see if they mind you blocking in the illegal, parker with your car as you don't want to make it more difficult for the rightful users of the spaces to get in and out.
make big cardbord signs saying something like, too selfish to care about parking on private land and tuck them under the wiper blades... you may embarress the person into not doing it more than once.
some parents near our school park in the dentists car park rather than walk a few hundred yards.
Sorry HH I don't have any links to affordable towing companies! Wouldn't it be great though to see their face coming back to the empty spot!
How infuriating. I cannot believe the brass neck of some folk. I love the sandwich board idea, a really heavy weighted one, but that's a major hassle for you to store I'd imagine. Also favour the vey sticky label but I honk you'd have to make sure you're not breaking the law by 'damaging' their cars. Plus if you put it in their line if sight and they tried to drive, it might cause an accident. Not directly your fault right enough but you don't want they parking or abandoning their car for longer than necessary whilst thy try to remove it. Instead how about a preprinted A3 piece of paper with large letters saying 'private space, your reg no has been taken an reported etc' and attach to windscreen with their wipers and a wee bit of Sellotape (not enough to cause damage). I would also take a photo as back up.
As for whoever posted here saying that you would have known about this when you bought the house, that's completely irrelevant and a shit answer. It's your space, and you shouldn't have to put up with this. I would keep at the school too as they have the means to communicate with parents (even the arsehole rude ones)
Good luck, I would be fuming and fed up too
though with summer coming up, getting small suncream smeared children past the illegally parked car would be quite inconvenient. it is quite inconvenient to get off too.
Have you tried looking for flint to put down? In other words stones with v sharp edges - yes, they do puncture tires.
squash past the car with a sharp object sticking out your bag .
Someone once recommended a knob of vaseline thrown onto the windscreen. Looks innocent enough but when enough the wipers are activated a lovely big smear
Love that Vaseline suggestion.
Parking school run arseholes will be arseholes whatever the school does though. I used to live down a private gravel track (700m away from the school) that was so secluded even the new postman had trouble finding it. The school had put bollards out all round the local streets so certain parents had to find somewhere else to park. I regularly had shouty words with a woman who couldn't see why I was getting so het up with her for trespassing on my drive and blocking my garage, as she was Picking Her Child Up From School - as though that gave her the right to park anywhere.
Definitely don't park three streets away. Park behind them blocking them in, and take your time moving it when they ask. And get one of those pop up bollards to put in your space.
A sign up warning of clamping will deter them maybe? I realise it's illegal to actually clamp - but they might not
I'll bet it's only the same 2 or 3 people parking in your space.
I like the bollard idea. The only thing is although the bollard itself is only £44, you'd have to get a whole made in the tar mac wouldn't you? To sink it in? Who would you approach to do that?
I get this too, one mum parks across the driveway to our garage, every single day, if we ask her to move she sighs, pulls forward and sits there till we have driven in or out, then backs up again, i cant believe the cheek of some people YADNBU.
Write " please do not park in my private parking space" in lippy on the windscreen?
I'd go with blocking them in, even if it's just by you in a deckchair, but also figure out something more permanent because even if you shift the ones doing it now, there will be more in the future.
When we moved the house next door was a house not a business and there were bollards up.
Thanks for all the advice, I have challenged people, they don't give a shit, the last person challenged had a complete strop because I wasn't using it so they didnt see the problem. I mentioned parking on their drive when they weren't using it...
Vaseline is more stealthy though!
There are five massive signs up saying private land, trespassers will be fined/clamped.
Isn't the vaseline thing vv dangerous? A smeary windscreen whilst driving outside a school?
Is it possible to park across without blocking the road?
at Vaseline. There's cctv at back though...
Last Resort stand in the space.
No diddl without blocking everyone else in who lives there too. Basically there's a line of houses with no gardens and the car park space is right in front of house so its like a drive but with no fencing. At end there is a small entry.
So what is the procedure for the fining and clamping OP?
Is it the council who put up the signs?
Firstly, I feel your pain! This used to happen in the car park attached to the block I lived in. We bought a flat plus a parking space (at a hefty premium) but lots of people along the road would tell their friends and relatives to use said 'car park' when they visited! They just couldn't understand that it was the equivalent to their drives and I'm sure they would have had something to say if I'd left my car there!
I used to work shifts, including nights, and would often come home to find some random vehicle in my space, meaning I had to find a street where on street parking was allowed, often a good walk away, and then move my car back when it was gone. Bloody annoying!
Anyway - positive steps:
1) Install big, very clear signs (our freehold did this) saying private, CCTV in operation etc.
2) Report anyone who parks there who has a trade vehicle to their company. British Gas once parked in my space to visit a house down the road!
3) Involve your local PCSO - ours was very helpful and said that he had the power to issue offenders with something to do with antisocial behaviour, as that's what he classed it as.
4) Do to be afraid to tell people to move. I used to be all non confrontational - and it got me nowhere. One night I came home and there was a car in my space and I literally sat and blasted my horn until the particular neighbour who had decided to dump his car there woke and up came to see what the commotion was about. Now, I do recognise that this was grossly inconsiderate to everyone else on the street but it was 1am and I was heavily pregnant. There was no way I was walking the streets on my own at that time.
5) Write signs and stick them to windscreens with super sticky tape. I once put six signs on a car, each attached with four pieces of tape. I hope it took whoever it was a whole to remove.
I know this all sounds a bit crazy but seriously, why are some people of the mindset that this is ok?! School or not - they could buy a house with a drive close by if they wanted to. They are effectively stealing your property!
I think it's going to have to be a physical barrier that only you can move .... ie bollard.
So bloody annoying that you'll have to go to the expense of that.
I'd print up some signs to tape to the windscreen.
"WARNING - THIS VEHICLE IS PARKED IN A PRIVATE PARKING PLACE - ANY FURTHER INFRINGEMENT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL OF THE VEHICLE."
Doesn't matter if it isn't true.
Just block them in with your car and walk off/go into your house. If they get out of the car to follow you, just act surprised/innocent 'oh, sorry! I was just parking as much in MY parking space as possible because some silly person has not seen the FIVE MASSIVE SIGNS pointing out it's private land. 'Fraid I've got VAIR IMPORTANT things to do now, so wont be moving my car till...oh...tomorrow afternoon maybe? You could always call and get it towed...except it's parked on it's owners land. So, hmm. GO. FUCK. YOURSELF.'
though you might want to leave the sweary bit out as that will probably get you in trouble.
Legal question - is it trespass if someone is on your private land without permission?
Loving the traffic cone costume!
I used to live opposite my dc's school sns it was a flipping nightmare!
I constantly had parents parking over the end of my drive which either blocked me in or meant I had to park a couple of streets away and walk.
It drove me bonkers and I eventually moved house!
Sorry x-post, see that you can't block them in.
Maybe do the horn-blasting thing? So cross on your behalf!
Buy it and do a little dance in your space during the school run MNBlackpool,
Where do all the other parents park?
The other offender - can you tell this has evoked bitter memories?! - was a local estate agent. Showing people round my neighbour's flat, must have worked out I was out a lot, always parked there. Well, he didn't bank on me being on maternity leave. Not a pretty sight to be confronted with a 39 week pregnant angry woman when you've come to view a property. And this particular agent had the gall to ask me to wait whilst he showed the guy around the flat and then he'd move the car. I'm surprised I didn't go into labour right then and there!
And to the question about trespass, we were told it technically was but was a civil matter as on private land.
That's annoying. Wibbly did they every buy the flat, because I imagine an irate neighbour pointing out that stupid cunts use what is supposed to be your own private space would put me right off buying a house/flat!
Why are you parking 3 streets away? Park next to hem, tell them to move. If they refuse, block them in and go into your house.
I would actually be tempted to stand in the space. I bet the cheeky fuckers would ask you to move.
There seems to be a company which can issue illegal parking tickets for you. I know that it's not a parking ticket, it's an invoice etc. but even doing it for 6 months or so should be enough of a deterent to stop these people parking in your space.
sorry, they issue tickets for illegal parking, that read as if they were issuing illegal tickets.....
I would love one of these cheeky parkers to come onto the thread and explain why this is ok. How do they have the nerve?
At the DS's First School it was awful. The residents all had a cone and a No Parking sign in their drives. Parents would reverse up drives to turn round and squish flowers.
Then parents started parking on the village green on the grass, and the Parish Council were up in arms quite rightly. Week after week it was in the School Newsletter about 'considerate parking' but it never got any better.
I think you need to stick a polite note to the windscreen with something that will cause them some inconvenience before they can drive off again - gaffer tape?
There's a website here with some suggestions of what you could put on the note
we get letters home from my youngest ones school about blocking drivewyas because of selfish people like this. The police come out every so often and march around telling mums off and it stops for a while. Maybe you could get in touch with the police about it?
Hi Easily - that viewer didn't! And the stupid thing was, I was happy to lend my space to other neighbours who had visitors if I was away, people who were having deliveries etc when they asked. The block itself was a nice little community. It was just the idiots who believed they were above everyone else in life and could park where they wanted who ruined it.
I also had the same problem as parking the offender in would have blocked the whole car park.
OP - did you say that next door is now a business and not a house? Could they help out with bollards and signs etc? Does your space have a house number or equivalent painted in it?
I've seen the other side of it locally. People parking properly in a side street near the school, and residents just not liking people parking there at all.
I think the OP is perfectly in the right, and parking in/blocking drives is also appalling, but you also get the "Don't park outside my house" types when people are parked perfectly legally, who are just as bad a s the parking offenders, IMO.
Private parking threads like this are both infuriating and irresistible to me!
I live on a narrow road, the only one leading into our village, so fairly busy, and i'm near the side entrance of the school.
There's no pavement on our side of the road at all, just little short drives as off road parking for one car for each house and grass in-between. No pavement on the other side either. Residents put any second vehicle away in their garage or drive to the bottom of the road and park in a lay by and walk back up the hill.
Now for some reason it seems to be the done thing for visitors to the school who can't get it into their heads to use the school car park ( hmm] ) to park on our side of the road. Not the empty houseless side!
They will then either park over our little drives or leave their car sticking so far over that you cant swing a car in or out. It's not a safe road to park on as when the village bus comes along it has to squeeze past any vehicle parked on the road. Sometimes the bus has to mount the curb on the pavement side to get by. Dangerous.
Neighbours and i put white painted rocks on the corners of our drives a couple of years ago to 'mark' the driveways. It stopped the 'half over half not' parkers. But didn't stop the 'right in front of your drive' parkers.
Now the school has locked the gates at the side of the school so that it is no longer desirable to park up our road for picking up/dropping off the kids. Parents are having to park in the actual car park Gasp! yay!
Could you kindly point out that if they continue to park there, their child is going to be able to sight read 'you park like a twat' by age 6?
I would go out and start taking photos of them in your space, might unnerve them!
Block them in and then refuse to move
How about a sign saying 'private parking- Foot pump hire £50'
There were a couple of those at DS's First School too Filly. You would get the 'death stare' from one man even though parked very considerately.
Yes, about every few weeks I park in a side street near the school and get net curtains hoisted aside and a death stare
You would lose the moral high ground but feel a lot better if you photo'd and posted them on here You can also buy parking tickets to put on the offending vehicles.
im parking three streets away because I can't even get on to the carpark to block them in.
I am sick of dd nearly being run over by bad drivers who shouldn't even be there.
There are signs up, possibly by the business as I presume it affects their customers too.
The bollards were removed as two of the spaces are for the business customers to park and its not the kind of place they could hip out to unlock each time a customer comes.
number is clearly painted and right I front of house, I've just spoke to someone who waited forty minutes in space for primary child and three from nearby secondary and he said nothing just drove off.
i think i will go out with camera in morning and freak them out.
The other parents park on a designated school carpark for the school church which is five houses down from school and obviously too far to walk.
Get one of those fab traffic cone costumes, plonk yourself down in front of the car blocking it in, and call the local paper. You may be written off as slightly mad but it might shame people into not parking there.
But can't you just get a bollard for your space? And then hop out and put it down when you're parking your car?
Then make all the other residents aware of where you got it and you can all do the same thing, but leave the business' / visitors' spaces untouched.
Extra sticky labels on the windscreen. They are a bastard to get off. Repeat until word gets around. They will soon leave your space alone. Keep a stack in your car for anyone who forgets and reoffends in the future. Stick by stealth so they don't know who you are.
I can't really afford to install one unless they are pretty cheap tbh thecraic.
If its the same person speak to them.
Put up your own sign.
Or park your car blocking them in and pop off for a walk!
We had a nightmare with parents parking here, we asked the local our PCSOs for advice and they offered to come by a couple of mornings and afternoons and have words.
I live in a tiny estate at the end of an unmade farm track. The track is a private road, our estate is a private road and has a gate at the entrance (it used to be a farmyard and the outbuildings have been converted into houses) In the corner of the estate is a locked gate, for residents use only that opens out into a footpath through another housing estate into the village, school is about a 2 minute walk. Parents discovered this and started parking all along the track and blocking it, opening the gate and parking in the communal areas and even on our drive ways.
School tried - ignored
Signs everywhere - also ignored
Council couldn't do anything as it's a private road
A few days of PCSO presence helped massively and it's stopped now
Get some stickers from the website, "youparklikeacunt.com.
Really sticky stickers too.
Hmm not sure how thrilled I would be if people were putting stickers with the word "cunt" around a primary school .
Our PCSO BELLOWED across the playground "could the owner of a red picasso registration blah blah come and remove the vehicle it is parked illegally" cue very embarrassed parent scuttling back to move her car. Think this was quite effective.
They dont show the word, ya know.
Bolt a stinger across your parking space? Or is that too nasty? [evil laughing smiley]
take pictures, send them to the school and they can make a nice montage of them in the weekly newsletter.
Im for the picture taking, shame em might work.
I am one of those who hate people parking outside my house. Even when they are not contravening any laws.
ANY SPACES OUTSIDE MY HOUSE ARE MINE.
And yes I do stare evilly at the drivers of any cars I do not know personally who dare to park outside my house.
Carefully prop little nails up against their tyres, so that when they move......bang
If this person is parking in your space to drop their child off at school whilst you are using your car to take your child to the same school, where are you parking when you drop your child off?!How close is your house to the school?
It is a pain when someone parks legitimately outside your house when you have visitors coming or something, but I don't do the death stare.
Can you park behind them and block them in?
Sod the bollard, what you want is one of these bad boys OP.
OP we used to have the same thing at a previous address. There was a back gate to the school with a short alleyway leading to the houses on our estate, meant to be for the parents and children who lived there to walk through, but the people who drove in also liked it because it was easier to park at that side, mainly because of our spaces.
Clearly marked private spaces with a big sign saying residents parking only.
We were able to park behind them and block them in though, and would watch them come back, realise they were blocked in, tutting and complaining because although were obviously allowed to park inconsiderately they didn't like someone else to do it to them.
It could be quite a while before they eventually realised that all the other cars were leaving, nobody else was walking back from the school and perhaps the car behind them belonged to the person who owned the space.
Then they would come and knock on the door to ask us to move and depending on their attitude (sheepish/apologetic or angry/arsehole) we would either go right out or make them wait a little bit longer.
Our neighbour had the same problem and once went and padlocked the gate with a bicycle lock to prove a point.
Eventually the police patrolled and issued warnings and tickets to repeat offenders.
If you can't arrange that, use fixmystreet to report the problem. You can report anonymously and update, with photo's if you have them, or without if you can't take them. They send the reports to your local council who will then have to act upon the complain in some way.
Keep reporting to the school as well. It doesn't matter that your DD is a pupil, tell them she's at risk because of this and let them know every day that you have a problem.
Were the bollards that were removed situated at the entrance to the whole parking area rather than blocking each space individually?
Is it possible to have individual ones? If the nuisance is because of the business having the bollards taken down, is it possible to ask that the business spaces be revoked or that a bollard with a key is put in place a little further up so they have one space for the business and their second space has a bollard in it, as would the road bit, so residents with spaces beyond it could pull in and unlock the barrier, move to their own space and re-lock it?
OP, you are being too nice! Someone was in your space for forty minutes and all you did was speak to him!
In that time you could have called the non-emergency police to report him, called the local paper to report the problem and had a feature made of it, covered his car in stickers or jam or Vaseline or whatever other substance you chose. Out of interest, what did you say to him, what was your tone etc? Did you make it very clear that if he EVER did this again, you'd be taking it further?
And quite frankly, at this stage, I'd have got a deck chair and sat behind his car with a cuppa until I chose to go inside. Tough if he had to wait. I might even have made a sign, saying something like 'This has stolen my drive' for everyone walking past to see. You own this space, protect it as you would your house! Or do you just let randoms into your kitchen and help themselves to dinner? Of course you don't! So don't be a pushover about this.
paint very muddy water over the windscreen.
Howshouldi its when I come home from work in the afternoon. We live right near school.
Think I will have a word with community officers.
Then resort to sparklings cone costume...
Get your patio set out and sit there drinking tea.
I would be very narked if this happened to me.
How about painting something on the parking space.
NO PARKING AT ANY TIME
or, Red chevrons with KEEP CLEAR AT ALL TIMES
or, ACCESS REQUIRED AT ALL TIMES
or something to make it look like it isn't actually a parking spot.
Signs just saying private parking etc don't work as people will take a chance on parking there as they assume the spot isn't monitored all day long. You need the sign to say "no school parking" so they know that the spot will be monitored during school drop off and pick up hours and won't risk parking there.
It is your space so I would buy two large rocks - about 3 foot buy three foot. Place each rock on the corner of your space and then when you get home get out the car and move one to get in the space - when you leave put the rock back.
The parents will not get out of the car to move the rocks as this will be too much effort and they are looking for easy pickings, they would otherwise park in the official school car park and walk.
yes the rocks will be a bit of a hassle for ou but it would stop others parking in your space or they could try and squeeze between the rocks and dent their cars....
You get them from building merchants
a friend used them to stop people driving over her lawn - she placed them on the edge of her lawn they were abut 2 foot high and as she lived in the country on a lane people would drive over her lawn rather than use the offical passing place for two cars to pass.
even a pile of bricks would work www.westbs.co.uk
Rock is a good cheap idea. I might drag all the bins inc the blue/brown/green ones.
its a different car every time.
Wibbly i was in a rush going for dd but when i came back after talking to teacher about dds consultant he was still there , I told him he was in a space i paid for and taking the piss and he just told older kids who were walking up behind to get in the car and drove off.
Bins is a great idea - just pile them up behind your car when parked there and then when you leave take a minute to pop them in the middle of your space - you can be safe in the knowledge that no one will bother to move the bins to use the space as that would mane getting out of the car and where would they put the bins?
Block them in and go for for a 2 hr walk that will show them when their daily routine is buggered!
Follow them and park on their drive?!
You could get a bolt down parking post for £80.
Looks easy to install if you know someone with a big drill!
Love the sticker idea!
I think the sticky signs are a great idea.
They will inconvenience the parkers without actually causing any damage.
The only potential problem is that whatever MNBlackpool does they will know exactly who did it.
I used to work in a small office with limited parking and we had large stickers to put on the windscreens of people who parked in our spaces. They went on the driver's side windscreen and were a bugger to get off. Many times we enjoyed the sight of someone trying to scrape their screen clear with an ice scraper or credit card.
Do you actually own the car parking space with that space being on the Title Deeds?.
I would purchase a pop up bollard; its the only way you're going to stop this problem from recurring.
Please do not put tape etc on car windscreens or block them in because you could easily yourself get into trouble with the police for doing this. You cannot therefore resort to such measures. Two wrongs do not make a right.
Any chance of somebody else picking up your dd for a few days so that you can block car in (even if it blocks all cars in) and sit in your car and wait for them?
Otherwise it will have to be a bollard, which is a shame as it is £££.
Sorry op, I may be a bit confused here, are you saying there wasn't a problem before your neighbour started a business, and needed 2 spaces for customers?
In which case, the solution might be for the business to lose these spaces if its causing so many problems for all the neighbours.
Don't use fixmystreet or any of those other shitty websites like that, some councils won't accept reports from them. You could ask your local council for some advice, but this isn't a matter for them really.
Keep on at the PCSOs, they seem to be the only ones who have any sway.
Complain to the police/dvla/??? That the drivers obviously can't be safe on the roads if they are unable to read not 1 but 5 big clear notices not to park. Might freak them if they think they need to retake their test or lose their license. And get the school to put a note to this effect in their newsletter too.
Alternatively go a completely different tack. put up a sign to say car space to hire between 8.30 and 9.15 or whatever your times are. Put an outrageous price on it - like a pound a minute. And say that if people do not specify the time they are parked there then they will be charged for the full time. Cash only, no change. High price due to limited availability of parking during school pick up times.
If people do not pay up then you will take a photo of all vehicles using the space and come into school to collect.
Maybe see if the shop would do it too - if they would take payment for it too - their spaces could say no charge for customers - and if people could pay there for your space too if you weren't around to collect, you might scare people off... Because they can't say it's just for a few minutes because that's exactly what your sign is saying the payment is for. And again put a note in the school newsletter about it so they can't claim not to know or be able to read the signs. And stick a copy of the sign on their window if you find somebody parked up.
Hopefully it will stop people from parking there - but if not at least you should get some easy money out of it!
And if the people who park in your space complain you can just point out that they had a choice of where they park and you are perfectly entitled to rent your personal private car space out to whoever you like at whatever price you want - it's up to them if they want to park and pay the price or not. Hence all the websites around for people to hire out their drive.
I'm sure there will be others on here that can advise on exact wording
and the legality of this but it would be an interesting tactic to try!
Moving your wheelie bin?!?!
Imagine how freaked someone would be if they tried to move a wheelie bin and found it was super heavy (weighted Ith bricks or something) and then the lid popped up and someone leaped out screaming "get out of my fucking space **!"
I like the rocks idea.
Parking is a pain. Years ago my poor friend had parked in my road when some idiot builder accidentally dropped a load of screws and nails in the street. it cost her a fortune in tyres that day.
tell the PCSOs. Really - all these other suggestions are fun but only the threat of police will stop it.
OP - totally with you and in same position. You've seen the variety of posts on here and it transpires nothing works. I did block someone in when ds was a baby and they went bonkers ringing on doorbell, and threatening to call police. I had to put sick ds back in the car seat thingy and he woke up just to put him back in my car on my land to let this prat out.
There as a lollipop lady who gave up as parents were nudging her with their cars - nice!
Our school does not care - pays lip service but clearly does not care as the HTs stand outside the school and see all this action and do nothing.
Nothing has changed as if you get on prat to stop parking on private land there are 8 others willing to take up the challenge. I find it worse when parking or police are around as they are specifically keeping and eye for double yellow line or zigzag parking and it actually encourages people to park in private drives (these officials have no idea who lives there).
Last week the police stopped some person who was causing a block and suggested to them that if they can't park properly on the roadside, why didn't they park in a private drive! WTF - wish I'd recorded it.
No advice but feel free to be as nasty as you feel as they are nasty for doing it in the first place.
people are not threatened by the police and the police. People who park in a lazy manner are only threatened by having to get out of their car - so do something that would mean they had to get out of their car and this will stop them
Some people really are selfish, lazy and disgusting. The parking threads here have opened my eyes to it. We are close enough to my DCs school to walk, but I have noticed that parents park like selfish cunts on the road it's on - blocking side roads, driveways, garages etc. there is plenty of on street parking which would be in nobody's way only one minute's walk away. Unbelievable.
Stick a couple of traffic cones In your space.
Yup - I was once crossing road with dc - I was just outside my drive ie blocking it (no issues - it's a private drive) - a school parent rolls up in car and starts beeping me to get out the way so they could get in. Well I couldn't cross as they were in the road so she started to turn and bump us gently to get me out of the way so she could pull into my drive.
HT of school was about 20 meters way just watching.
I would have been tempted to reverse rather swiftly towards her waiting vehicle.
What did you say to her? What a cheek.
Wouldn't it be awful if some tacks or nails got spilt on your space before they parked there?
giveltago. Were you on foot or in the car? What on earth did you say to her? And what did she say back?
I always imagine these threads must be being read by a silent lurking army of over-entitled nightmare mothers. There's so many of them out there, they MUST be on here and looking at this! Ladies, have you no shame?
"weighted Ith bricks or something) and then the lid popped up and someone leaped out screaming "get out of my fucking space **!"
laughed so hard at this....
Reads to me as if giveitago was standing on the pavement as the end of her own drive with her children.
And someone drove at them so that they could park there!!
There are several of us living very near school with only a tiny side road to cross who can't let our children walk to school because of how the parents of children too pull in like maniacs onto said side street without looking or slowing down, really pisses me off. That's on the road itself not the car space.
I wouldn't Mind but five doors the other way is a huge carpark specifically for this use.
It's outrageous MNBlackpool why don't hey use the car park?
What about one of those aforementioned bollards?
It seems you have to make it impossible for someone to use your space. Just be aware that some designs mean ppl can still park (over part of your drive IYSWIM)
The more of you who get involved he better IMO.
Giveitago that's terrible!
I can't get over someone actually parking in a driveway! They'll be coming in to use the loo next! Unbelievable!
Not near a school but I have a private parking space with my house number in foot high sign... People still park in it.
Things that worked. Blocking them in. Or pulling up behind them and just sitting there if they were in their car. Blocking them in and removing my doorbell got rid of one persistent offender. I took a very long bath that night
Repeating myself with same answer whatever they said "you need to move your car now. This is a private parking space" repeatedly
Blasting my horn at 3am after a late shift at work. I pissed the entire street off but they didn't do it again
My final resort was (and not proud of it) losing the plot completely, and telling the guy I would ram his car out of the space unless he moved it and his car was a lot nicer than mine
If you can, block them in. Don't park streets away just block them in. Worked for me.
Yes to the wheel clamp idea, or pay to fit one of those bollards that comes with a key and slides in and out of the ground so only you can collapse it. Although I admit it is a pain having to get in and out of the car each time to operate it, it will at least solve the problem.
Also, you could stand there taking photos of the people in your space as they sit in their cars, and tell them you are going to get their details from the police/DVLA and take legal action. Write to the school and name and shame the parents.
The blocking with your own car is a good idea. You could park it and then just go in your house and stay there. Let them be the ones to call the police and explain why they are blocked in. Although I agree this is easier said than done if you have to see these people at school.
There is no way you should be having to park around the corner - just get out of your car and tell them to bugger off! If they refuse call the polie immediately.
I would print up some flyers saying:
This parking space is clearly marked as private. You are trespassing. I have photographed YOU and your number plate and I will be passing your details on to the police.
And every time you see someone in the space go outside and hand them it. Or have a CCTV camera (even a fake one will do) trained onto the space with a big sign saying something similar.
But honestly, for the sake of avoiding rows with people and potentially nasty situations just try to spend the eighty quid on one of those foldable posts. Problem 100% solved.
OP has said that she can't block them in.
She shouldn't have to pay out any money at all-it's a disgrace.
Is there a school notice board that you can put pics of the cars on?
saying I think you either need an eye test or come back here to improve your reading skills
Do you drive your children to school even though you live just down the road?
Or because you go elsewhere after?
If the first, could you walk them to school?
These would seem to be exactly what you need:
Nice bright red stickers that take over 30 minutes to get off your windscreen.
Am ashamed to say someone did this to me once - it was so much hassle to remove the sticker I never parked there again.
I can't imagine the luxury of a car park for school drop off.
Do they park in all the spaces or just yours and the business ones? Rota of the neighbours to block the entrance at the key times?
See, I'm a real stickler for shit like this. I'd be moving my car to the car park around 2:30, and then setting up a patio table and chair in the space.
Commence reading a book/Kindle/whatever and having a lovely cup of tea. When these idiots drive up to use your space, greet them in a ridiculously fake pompous English accent and tell them that they've been parking illegally and the next time it won't be a patio set waiting for them, it'll be a line of nails.
Overly flambouyant? Probably. Bound to get the point across? You betcha.
I would choose the school run as the exact time you need to sit out in the sun, arm yourself with a deck chair, and a magazines. Sit on there roof
I said something similar to someone blocking the pavement when I tried to go past with a buggy. I said "If you insist on parking on a public foot path, I will assume you wish your car to be used as a bridge."
Soon stopped it.
Or take up tap dancing, is football boots evil laugh
Start up a pay and display?! £5 for twenty mins.... There must be a text number you an easily set up
Emily its because carpark is five doors away and on otherwise of bushes so they would have to get out of car and take children in. From mine they can sit in a warm car with radio on and watch them go in./come out..
Whoever asked no I dont drive to school its near enough next door, I arrive home from work usually just before hometime so am trying to park at home so I can then go get dd.
Is it actually illegal and against the law for them to park there?
Get a couple of crates to block the way, you could fix 'no entry' signs to them. Or you could get a really tatty bike and leave it splayed across it. The effort of moving them will put them off.
It might be trespass? But I think it would be civil not criminal.
Put up a screen or trellis so they can't see the school gate?
I'm with the poster who said I'd be getting together with the neighbours and asking the business to sort out the problem that they created by removing the Bollard. Assuming you didn't give them written permission to do this (in which case this argument falls down) I'd be asking for them to pay to reinstall a Bollard either at the entrance or if they want their spaces to be freely accessible for your own space.
No idea why dyac wants Bollard to be in capitals but there you go.....
I always though that trespass counted if you asked them to leave your private property but they refused. If it was the same person coming back repeatedly, and you'd already asked them once, then that might count as tresspass <note, I'm not a legal expert>
I personally like the idea of hiding in a wheelie bin!
Not sure I get all the posters who think the head at the school should intervene, speak to parents, etc. She or he has already sent out a letter - that's probably about as much as is reasonable. Our HT tells me that parents are always asking her to speak to so-and-so about some disagreement or argument or perceived slight, and she just tells them that unless it's directly linked to a child in the school, they are adults and should sort it out themselves. Otherwise dragged into everything. One even asked her to tell off another parent who had barged in front of her at the local pub!
OP is there any way you could start work fifteen minutes early and so leave fifteen minutes early? Or shorten your lunch break so you can leave early.
We live opposite a school and I find the traffic on our road starts to pick up about ten minutes before school finishes. We've given up all hope of parking on the road outside our house between 3:05pm and 3:25pm, but if we can get home by 2:55pm the road is empty. We try to time journey's to get us home at any time but those busy 20 minutes when even driving down the road is a nightmare.
So if you can leave early and get home just before the traffic starts to build, you could hopefully be in your space before one of the parents parks in it.
It is directly linked to a child at the school.
The OP has a child at the school and if she can't park at home before collecting her, she could be constantly running late to collect her.
And the OP says her daughter is then at risk from these people driving badly once she has collected her.
OP perhaps you should tell the school you will bill them for the cost for one of those collapsable bollards.
Can you not leave a note on the windscreen, under the wiper telling them that you own the space and asking them not to park there?
Other than that I'm not sure what else you can do? My eldest DD is in the nursery at my local school and I walk to and from school everyday to drop off and collect her, and I see so wright sights with regards to parking. Driveways blocked, cars parked slap bang in the middle of the road, on bends, on top of speed bumps. You name it. Its so inconsiderate and the best thing is most of these parents live locally so could easily walk if they wanted to. Its just sheer laziness, I walked to school everyday and I would like my children to do the same.
I'd go for a large sticky sign addressed to the child, saying "Your mother is a selfish bitch who parks like an arsehole. Tell her to fuck off and leave her car somewhere else next time."
Are the parents always in the cars when you get back then, op?
Small orange traffic cones are easy for people to move out of parking spaces. However, if very recently painted with orange gloss paint ...
I feel your pain. Our flat had its own space with a big 44 pained in it, but people always parked in it. Some things that we found worked was blocking them in ( the women from DWP that couldn't get back to their office was an interesting day) keep hold of the horn and when all else failed, letting their tyres down.
Also used to live near a school and was amazed at parents of secondary children that need to drop them off right outside the gates! School didn't really give a monkeys until I blocked their drive one morning. Friend lent me an old banger and it blocked the school entrance til lunchtime.
A sandwich board with feck off should do it. Well you'd hope so.
Yes they are always in their cars but I usually can't even get into the carpark to challenge them because its that busy, they just pull in where ever if car park spaces are taken and I have to go straight for dd. By the time I get back usually they have gone (dd is sen and forgets everything and teacher speaks to me most nights)
Im waiting for community police to ring me and I currently have owner of business park in my space so they can't take it!
Those "flashpeel" stickers look fabulous! I want some to stick on the cars of the twats who park on the yellow zig zags outside school
AnneElliott - wow, I wouldn't mess with you.
Giveit, what did you do about the woman nudging you out of the way, reading it I want to take a shovel to her car.
OP, how about a really, really dirty dustbin, garden waste type thing that no one wants to touch without gloves, (keep a pair in your car just for moving it) Loving the sandwich board idea as well, with a really rude message on it.
Whenever I read these threads I can feel my heartbeat rise because I get so angry at the gall, selfishness and in some cases fucking obnoxiousness of some people in risking the lives and safety of other peoples children who they then see in the school playground. Who are these people?
I'm thankful that DS's school isn't that bad, when we lived near another school in an city suburb the parking was awful, dangerous as some parents didn't care about the safety of other children and swore at the HT who tried to get them to park safely.
This is where Facebook and Twitter are your friends.
Start an FB group called something like "Lazy Parkers @ XX School". Invite all your local friends to join. Post pictures of the offenders on the page, get other locals to add their pictures of people parking in private spaces.
Turn it all into a big joke at the expense of the lazy buggers.
Very sticky notes, post or speaking to PCSO all sound like good options to me. How bloody annoying and rude though!!
Very large fake dog turds on the tarmac?
A big sign saying "Car parking charge - £50 per minute."
A sign saying "for every unauthorised car parked here, a kitten will die."
Or speak to the school and say you will add £1 for every day your space is left free to the school charitable fund, i.e. maximum £5 per week. However, the fund goes back to zero if someone parks there. So if someone parks there on a Friday the school gets nothing.
There was a Porsche Cayenne parked across two spaces in the crowded village car park, one day. I took a photo and reported to the Parish Council, who said they couldn't do anything. So I put it all over Facebook & Twitter. I don't know if the message got through to the driver, but it felt good anyway!
I have just had a complete strop in the car park basically that they all could not read the five HUGE signs saying private property which was worrying when they were driving with children either that or they were just damn ignorant and that my disabled parents had had to park five houses away because they couldn't walk five houses to the school carpark.
Three cars were trying to pull out and I walked as slowly as I could in the middle of the car park with dd all the way to the house so they had to wait ages for me to move as I was directly in front of them on foot before they could get out.
Hope it worked! Was it a very public strop? Did they look at all embarressed?
It was very public, at least ten cars with people getting in, they were also pulled on the pavements right up to the house where they had been no car park space, they did not look like they gave a shit to be honest even when I said I hoped their need to sit in their car doing their make up was great enough to prevent a disabled person from accessing a car park space that was paid for for THEM to use.
I haven't read all the posts on this one, but how about a box of very sharp tacks spread over your drive when you leave. Bet you'd only have to do it once!
I'd be tempted to put up a sign saying "Anyone who parks here will have Inconsiderate Bastard" sprayed on their car with shaving foam". Then do it. Word will get around.
What about a sign reading "this is a private parking space and I cannot accept any resposibility for any oss or damage to your car, however caused (and I have a f*** big baseball bat!!)"
Put a notice saying anyone parking there will have there tyres let down, then let there tyres down
So you need to up your game. Your parents should have blocked them in, blocked the whole car park and then hopefully they'd have been embarrassed about stealing a space you fund in order that they can park when they visit you.
Do you have any scary looking, preferably male friends? I know you shouldn't have to resort to this, but I think they would take more notice I'd they felt there was a bigger threat to them/their car.
Still absolutely infuriating for you.
Still think you should charge them an extortionate amount - put the signs up specifying the charge time is for use during school drop off times, maybe the option of a slightly cheaper pre- arranged price but still bloody expensive (say £50 or £30)
Take photos of them in the space and then record yourself asking them for payment and see what they say. Then put it all on fb and twitter and follow up asking for payment to show you are serious. Oh and stick it into the school newsletterthat that's what you are doing.
Also get the business on board - see if they would be able to spare someone at peak parking time if you can't - who could stand at the entrance to the car park and charge people as they go in to park (free to their customers obviously!)
block them in and leave a note on the windscreen 'this parking place belongs to number 7' Then be very slow to move your car so they can get out.
I think the head should stand by the car parking spot at pick up time for a few days. He probably could resolve the issue if he pulled his finder out.
Every time someone blocks you in, email the head the details (with photo if you can).
Some of the mums at DD's school have complete brass necks when it comes to parking. Things got so bad the school asked any neighbours with complaints to take photos of offenders parking over driveways etc, and they were going to email them round to all parents to name and shame. Doesn't sound like your school would be so hardline, but maybe you should take up the suggestion earlier of posting photos on FB and asking your friends to share so it goes viral.
My DS's school started naming and shaming bad and dangerous parkers in the monthly newsletter by printing the number plates and description of the car. That definitely seemed to help.
At DSs First School the Head would not get involved at all in the parking debacle that went on twice a day. Except to put 'please park considerately' in every newsletter.
I wouldn't complain to the school. Why is it their problem to sort out? These people could quite easily be using the business premises next door anyway.
i agree. there's not much the school can do.
i do think the wheel clamping is a good idea. they'll stop pretty sharpish.
Oh Op and others -well I've lived here for 10 years. first 3 had no idea as at work 24/7 only when stopped to have baby saw the shite. I live in block of flats - low rise and comprising of three blocks with drive up the middle - PRIVATE DRIVE. And there's also a back block of garages with parking onto another road.
The first issue was that an elderly neighbour was telling a man he shouldn't park there. He was telling her 'f'off' - I was horrified so ran to her aid. The man still parked there day after day. So I informed the school. Same stuff. Kept informing them - they were getting bored of me. Numerous incidences since including the day before my ds was scheduled to be induced - couple of children on our land banging footballs against my door - I go out - am abused by the mother. Nice. When ds was 2 I had to block another man in my parking - he went ballistic and he threatened to kill me - he was a governor of the school. Also nice
DS and I on foot outside our door trying to cross the road and school driver trying to nudge us out of the way to get into our drive. My dh has actually had to adjust his working patterns as to not get home at that time as he needs to keep driving around the block until all the school runners have finished parking either across on in our space.
School know, council know. They do nothing and are increasing the problem.
I've given up. I don't anticipate anyone doing anything (as they do it all the time) but if I'm out and about and I encounter I give them some choice words. My only recompense is that I can give them some grief, sometimes. I am not ashamed - they deserve it.
We also have people stomping past my flat through as a back way to another street. It is private property. Stomping up my path that leads to my home - dropping litter. I've had tutt tutting from school mum's when I slowed down on my own path with my pram to my own front door for holding them up and they 'shock horror' have to then tread on the grass (on private land) to get past me. On one ocassion one woman was so angry with me she got her little boy (at the school) to knock my washing over at the back. The most hilarious one was when my dh was woken up the sounds of massive laughter and yelling. Looks out our window and there were 3 mums outside our door sitting on our bench we put outside our home for a party we had the week before having a preschool gossip! Not joking.
You might be wondering where I live. I live in an affluent area near a v. good school. Parents are professional people in most cases.
So OP - this is just one manifestation of people's entitlement that is sadly being playing out on your drive. Unless you can get our immediate community together to give these people a nasty shock there is very little you can do that won't cause you grief and upset.
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