To be sad that meat is security protected?

(73 Posts)
BumpingFuglies Sun 21-Apr-13 19:39:10

Bought a pack of chicken valued at 3.15 and it had a sticker on saying "security protected". Which leads me to think the supermarket (tesco) feels customers might steal it and that makes me feel all kinds of sad and wrong hmm

kotinka Sun 21-Apr-13 19:39:51

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SoleSource Sun 21-Apr-13 19:40:55


wineoclocktimeyet Sun 21-Apr-13 19:40:56

I'm sure I read once that some of the most shoplifted items are meat and cheese - really sad.

yaimee Sun 21-Apr-13 19:41:02

Yanbu, saw someone being stopped for taking a small block of cheese the other day. I was so sad for the person.

ilovesooty Sun 21-Apr-13 19:42:21

Meat and cheese are commonly shop lifted - they're easy to sell on.

sydlexic Sun 21-Apr-13 19:44:59

People steal it fact of life. Don't believe it is because they can't afford it.

PirateShit Sun 21-Apr-13 19:45:25

A lot of the people I deal with in my job shoplift, and meat is a really popular thing to steal, along with cheese. It has a good resale value to it, and is easy to flog in pubs etc.
In my experience, most people nicking food will be selling it, rather than eating it themselves. Although with welfare reform etc, I wouldn't be surprised if there are people stealing food to feed their families as well.

Bobyan Sun 21-Apr-13 19:45:36

Its stolen by drug addicts as its easy to sell for a good mark up. After all if you were stealing for hunger, wouldn't have you steal something easy to conceal and not bloody.

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM Sun 21-Apr-13 19:46:28

these things are normally stolen to sell on to buy drugs, rather than a hungry family. Easy to sell on, not traceable, instant money.

BumpingFuglies Sun 21-Apr-13 19:46:54

I am the one who hovers over the reduced section, buys the value brands etc. I wonder if one day I shall be so desperate as to steal food. I know it goes on, I am not daft and tbh I have seen it before. It just got to me today.

kotinka Sun 21-Apr-13 19:47:30

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BumpingFuglies Sun 21-Apr-13 19:49:03

Hadn't thought about resale, I suppose I am being rather naive hmm

Bunbaker Sun 21-Apr-13 19:49:23

I wonder what type of person would buy meat from these people? I wouldn't buy meat unless it was from a proper butcher, farm shop or supermarket.

BumpingFuglies Sun 21-Apr-13 19:50:40

By baker, I guess I would try it if I ever went to a pub grin

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM Sun 21-Apr-13 19:53:02

it gets sold in the pub, at least that's what happens round here.

Bunbaker Sun 21-Apr-13 19:56:05

I wouldn't buy meat in a pub because chances are it would be stolen. And it wouldn't have been stored properly.

chickensaladagain Sun 21-Apr-13 19:56:18

meat is a huge theft line for supermarkets

I was in Morrisons once and there was a guy on his phone pretending to talk to someone about what they were having for tea -lamb or steak

because of the position of his arm & coat it was concealing the fact that he was filling his bag full of very expensive cuts of meat

was quite funny watching the manager chase him across the carpark

there are some areas where people go door to door selling stolen stuff, meat, cheese, coffee, airsfresheners, batteries -they are all fair game now razor blades are so heavily protected

CloudsAndTrees Sun 21-Apr-13 20:00:29

It's sad that companies need to security protect meat because of thieves and the rest of us have to pay higher prices because of it.

No one needs to steal fresh meat because they are hungry.

Wabbitty Sun 21-Apr-13 20:07:27

I once saw lorries carrying drinking water with an army escort.

Quodlibet Sun 21-Apr-13 20:09:53

My local Iceland has joints of meat in locked plastic security boxes.

expatinscotland Sun 21-Apr-13 20:12:08

Plenty of people steal food to sell, not eat, to buy drugs.

katolla Sun 21-Apr-13 20:14:02

It's sad that nappies are security protected. I can't imagine people selling those on. Or do they??

BrianButterfield Sun 21-Apr-13 20:14:32

Our little local Co-Op had gammon joints on sale for £5. I put one in my basket and the assistant laughed (nicely) and said I was the first person who'd actually paid for one, the rest had all been stolen. One person slung a load in a wheeled basket and ran off down the road with them! They sell them on, though, they're not to eat.

BumpingFuglies Sun 21-Apr-13 20:19:58

Clouds - no-one needs to steal because they are hungry? Really? That seems a ridiculous statement to me.

expatinscotland Sun 21-Apr-13 20:21:44

'It's sad that nappies are security protected. I can't imagine people selling those on. Or do they??'

They do.

BumpingFuglies Sun 21-Apr-13 20:22:43

So the security protection is only due to resellers, not people trying to feed their families?

CloudsAndTrees Sun 21-Apr-13 20:24:54

I said no one needs to steal fresh meat because they are hungry, not that that no one needs to steal.

I'd have thought that if an honest person was so desperate that they had to steal food they'd steal the cheapest stuff they could, not more expensive things like meat.

CombineBananaFister Sun 21-Apr-13 20:25:00

Same where i work. Our top shoplifted items used to be wines and spirits and leather jackets, then the economy went south and now it's meat. I do feel sorry for the little old ladies who can't afford their lamb any more (racks are extortionate shock )

But it's mostly divvys pinching and selling it on, infact a pub got shut down locally for having a freezer full of our meat (not just any meat, but high quality expensive meat wink ).

Was heartbroken at seeing a down n out getting took away for a bloody sandwich though. Breaks my heart. We used to give our BB food to sally army but can't any more due to ridiculous health/hygiene/fraud etc. Now it all gets injected with dye and put in the bins.

expatinscotland Sun 21-Apr-13 20:25:18

Security protection is there to prevent shoplifting, which costs all of us, regardless of what people do with the goods, but many steal meat and cheese to sell and this was the case long before the recession. Long before it. It's a common thing to steal, alongside non-food items like razor blades.

AnyaKnowIt Sun 21-Apr-13 20:26:06

IME the people who steal because they need to eat go for the basics like bread, pasta ect.

People who sell on usually meat, cheese, and washing powder.

I work in a supermarket and meat and cheese are one of the most shoplifted things there.

Bumping I tihnk other posters are right, people don't generally steal food because they are hungry. Even homeless people have access to some sort of meal if they really want it, from shelters. There is a way for people who really need food to get it, without stealing.

Food is stolen to sell on, for drugs or alcohol, by addicts.

McNewPants2013 Sun 21-Apr-13 20:28:01

It gives the locally sourced promise a new meaning lol.

BumpingFuglies Sun 21-Apr-13 20:28:32

Clouds, would you steal to feed your family? Meat or otherwise?

RhondaJean Sun 21-Apr-13 20:28:57

I had to explain to my daughter that the lynx, batteries, razors are behind the counter in our local tesco metro because they're likely to be stolen.

She was shock

That is sad Combine. i wish we could share out 'outdated' food more easily in this country, instead of throwing it away sad

scaevola Sun 21-Apr-13 20:30:56

I'd heard that one of the most shoplifted items was Gillette Mach-3 replacement razor blades. Is that right?

HedgeHogGroup Sun 21-Apr-13 20:32:08

Kotinka its not the meat being in their pocket you need to worry about, my Mum has CCTV of a shoplifter putting packs of bacon down his pants to take them... 'smokin' grin

HoHoHoNoYouDont Sun 21-Apr-13 20:32:41

I heard that too scaevola

expatinscotland Sun 21-Apr-13 20:32:54

'I'd heard that one of the most shoplifted items was Gillette Mach-3 replacement razor blades. Is that right?'

Very. That's why they are often behind the counter and/or security tagged.

And yy, Lynx and batteries. Perfume testers, too.

kotinka Sun 21-Apr-13 20:33:27

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DoJo Sun 21-Apr-13 20:51:03

I would steal to feed my family if I was that desperate, but the last thing I would steal would be fresh meat. It's not wildly efficient as a food stuff, yields only the amount of food as stolen (as opposed to pasta which will bulk up when cooked for example), needs a source of heat to be prepared which may not be available if utilities have been cut off and can't be stored and rationed out as efficiently. So if anyone is stealing fresh meat because they're hungry then they are also probably also not that bright.

Teapot13 Sun 21-Apr-13 20:52:38

Even if the person who steals/resells it is buying drugs, I would think the people who buy from him are hard up -- otherwise they would shop at the supermarket.

expatinscotland Sun 21-Apr-13 20:54:45

'I would think the people who buy from him are hard up -- otherwise they would shop at the supermarket.'

They sell often enough to punters in pubs. Who are so hard up they are sat there drinking.

Car boots are popular, too.

yaimee Sun 21-Apr-13 21:19:01

Of course some people steal because they are hungry and of course others steal to buy drugs.
Someone stealing to buy drugs makes me sad too.

yaimee Sun 21-Apr-13 21:25:58

I'm going to admit something now that will get me flamed but it's funny so....
When I was younger, much more foolish and my moral compass was much more wibbly I used to work in a pub where one of the regulars shoplifted to order. I asked him to get me a bottle of pink wine and he came back with a frozen leg of lamb. It was fucking huge, no idea how he managed to get it out of the shop, I struggled to get the bloody thing home. Did feel a lot safer walking home on my own that night though!

maddening Sun 21-Apr-13 21:32:57

It's not new though. Year and years ago an old man died of hypothermia trying to steala frozen chicken under his hat.

When I was at uni 13 years ago coffee was taken off the shelves and kept behind the counter at night as it was stolen a lot.

People have always stolen and certain items are more sought after for various reasons.

AmberLeaf Sun 21-Apr-13 21:37:32

There used to be a man near where I lived years back who would go into sainsburys load a trolley with frozen legs of lamb, joints of beef etc etc and then just walk right out and run off with the trolley.

He'd then go into the cab office across the rd and sell it all in about 2 mins flat.

Then he'd go and get his heroin/crack whichever it was.

Most prolific shoplifters do it to fund an expensive drug habit.

snooter Sun 21-Apr-13 21:45:04

P20 suncream locked away here (North East) as regularly pinched.

Ezza1 Sun 21-Apr-13 21:53:47

twats people in my old local used to buy meat stolen to order from the local drug addict. It was shocking. He used to come in, the punters used to say what joint they fancied and he used to shoot off, nick it and come back with it stuffed in a backpack 20 mins later shock

iklboo Sun 21-Apr-13 22:17:56

The lego mini figures & moshi monsters are security tagged in the tesco near us.

CloudsAndTrees Sun 21-Apr-13 22:21:29

Clouds, would you steal to feed your family? Meat or otherwise?

If I was that desperate, of course I would steal food for my family. But it would take a lot to get to being that desperate, we have a benefit system, we have food banks, we have various charities, and thankfully for many of us we have friends and family. I honestly can't imagine being that desperate, which I realise makes me very lucky, but you would have to literally have nothing except the clothes you were wearing to get to that stage. As has been said, even the homeless have access to a meal.

I would beg before I would steal.

If I really was forced to steal or starve, I can't imagine that I'd have the facilities to cook fresh meat. I'd be stealing bread or sandwiches I should imagine, stuff that doesn't need to be cooked.

WorraLiberty Sun 21-Apr-13 22:28:09

Gillette razors are also security protected

Mind you, I was reading in my local paper last month about a woman who was caught stealing £70 worth of vitamins from the local supermarket.

Turns out, it was only 12 bottles so they were bloody pricey too.

Hopasholic Sun 21-Apr-13 23:50:48

I once saw a man get pulled by security in Tesco for having a leg of lamb stuffed down his trouser leg.

Not sure how he got it down there shock

IAmNotAMindReader Mon 22-Apr-13 00:32:10

I was accosted by someone who wanted to sell me some packs of deli meat they had obviously stolen. This was a few weeks ago and it looked a bit sweaty to say the least. Needless to say I declined the generous offer of his armpit meat plus multipack of scrotal choccy bars.

CouthySaysEatChoccyEggs Mon 22-Apr-13 01:05:26

If I didn't have the money to feed my DC's properly, with a BALANCED diet, damn straight I would be shoplifting fresh or frozen meat, fruit and vegetables to feed them. Or breaking into a posh house and stealing the contents of their fridge, freezer and fruit bowl but nothing else.

I wouldn't steal money or jewellery, but I would steal food, in order to feed my DC's a properly balanced diet.

I'm not going to, even when in dire straits, feed them plain pasta and bread and butter and nothing else every single day.

I've done that before when that hard up, for a whole 6 months when my TC's weren't paid to me due to a 'computer error'.

My DC's were malnourished. They didn't grow AT ALL for those 6 months. So damn straight my DC's would be getting a properly balanced diet, even if I had to beg or steal to do so in future, now I have seen the effects, that rectified within weeks of them starting to eat a balanced diet again.

(That situation was only resolved with the help of my MP, and I did get the backpay at the end of the 6 months, but that didn't help me feed my DC's at the time!)

Yeah, I'd steal fresh or frozen meat, fruit, and vegetables to feed my DC's a balanced diet. And next time I won't think twice about it!

CombineBananaFister Mon 22-Apr-13 08:09:45

snooter that's completely ironic that the suncream in N.East is protected considering the amount of orange people walking around who've just been to tantastic. Based solely on observation NOT stereotypes. Bet the protected stuff differs regionally though.

You need to sit in the down market pubs around any shopping area and then you would be used to addicts coming in with all sorts to sell. OP you have got this mixed up as those buying the stolen goods have just spent a good amount of money in said pub, there is no poverty involved, just addiction.
I've bought off the women who sell the make up, I don't any more. This has been common place in Liverpool since the 80's, when a lifter gets caught they get barred, so they have to travel further away. Most have their weeks planned out, although it isn't as easy as it once was.

People aren't stealing food to feed their families. I know women who used to steal nappies to sell on, because they knew they'd get less of a sentence and be seen as victims if they stole goods that could be passed off for their families. Whole rows of small retailers closed in places like Huyton and Kirkby because of these vultures, I mention these places because I know this as fact. The only plus side is that whilst the women are successful shop lifters they are not working the streets.

People aren't stealing food to feed their families. I know women who used to steal nappies to sell on, because they knew they'd get less of a sentence and be seen as victims if they stole goods that could be passed off for their families. Whole rows of small retailers closed in places like Huyton and Kirkby because of these vultures, I mention these places because I know this as fact. The only plus side is that whilst the women are successful shop lifters they are not working the streets.

imour Mon 22-Apr-13 08:31:16

no worse than having a security guy in the local pound shop .

mrsjay Mon 22-Apr-13 08:46:25

I know you feel sad but as has been said before food is stolen to sell rather than eat mostly, people will steal dry goods to use like razors and nappies so dd told me she did a training on shop lifting at her work

mrsjay Mon 22-Apr-13 08:47:44

I know places where it is like tescos on a monday morning round some schools and nurseries sad

mrsjay Mon 22-Apr-13 08:48:53

DH once saw somebody walk out of asda with a telly people have no shame they did catch him but to pick it up and just walk out they must have a brass neck

MrsHoarder Mon 22-Apr-13 09:23:14

Couthy sad Sounds horrendous. I always wonder how civil servants/ministers expect people to cope when they delay benefits. It wouldn't be fine to just tell them they will get 6 months back pay later and they have so many more resources than those who are receiving benefits.

BumpingFuglies Mon 22-Apr-13 09:52:30

That's just it, MrsH, the people affected simply don't have reserves to wait. I'm lucky enough to have family around me who would and have helped through the bad times. But I have to say I can see where Couthy is coming from, I think I probably would consider stealing food if I had exhausted all other options.

CouthySaysEatChoccyEggs Mon 22-Apr-13 14:20:45

I didn't last time, I felt a moral obligation - instead I survived on food parcels from friends - who were also on benefits, so it was very very basic value pasta and bread.

But having seen the effects on my DC's in the past, I would no longer put my morals above feeding my DC's.

I just hope I'm never left in that situation again. I get nervous around TC renewal time every damn year now because of what happened - I put my renewal in, and their computer suddenly didn't accept my bank account that I had been using with them for years.

It's not something I'm 'proud' to admit to, that I know in my heart that I would steal food for my DC's if I was ever in that situation, but I know I wouldn't be selling it on, I wouldn't be doing it because of any addiction (gave up smoking in 2009, don't drink due to meds, don't take drugs other than those prescribed by my GP), it would purely be to feed my DC's a balanced diet.

Fingers crossed it never gets to that - there are more good banks now...

CouthySaysEatChoccyEggs Mon 22-Apr-13 14:21:36

Good banks = FOOD banks. Autocorrect.

FoundAChopinLizt Mon 22-Apr-13 14:35:58

I was in Oxfam yesterday and the assistant said they have to keep the CDs under the counter, separate from the boxes on display because people steal them. Stealing from charity shops is just the saddest. I wonder how you could get to the point in your life when you think that's the right thing to do?


BumpingFuglies Mon 22-Apr-13 15:15:42

I don't think anyone is saying it would be the right thing to do, just desperate in relation to food. No excuse with CDs though.

expatinscotland Mon 22-Apr-13 15:24:22

Desperate for drugs, sadly, more often than not.

shockers Mon 22-Apr-13 15:50:30

I've just seen the post about the waste food from supermarkets being injected with dye. That's sad because a lot of it is perfectly edible. My eldest son and his friends used to go 'bin diving' for food when they were at uni. He didn't tell me for a long time, he thought I'd be cross, but TBH, I found the wastage more horrifying than him taking the food (although, I accept that what he was doing was stealing).

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