To give DS a 'day off'?

(107 Posts)
gostraighttojail Sat 20-Apr-13 12:09:15

I know I will be termed a pushy parent but I am just trying to do my best here.

DS, aged 4.
DH and I both work. We really try to do nice things with the kids at the weekend. They don't watch TV during the day and our time is usually quite structured.

But today, DS has been watching TV for ages. He is not feeling well.

I feel uncomfortable that he is upstairs watching TV and not getting any positive input from me or anyone or anything.

Is this OK? Am I mad? Are you going to flame me as some kind of pushy mum?

I don't really understand what you mean about all his structure and input.

But, it's a weekend. Nothing wrong with spending a day watching tv. It's my plan for the day plus a BBQ.

Jinsei Sat 20-Apr-13 12:15:34

Oh gosh. Just relax! And let him relax!!!

A day in front of the TV when he isn't feeling well will do him no harm at all. Positive input is great, but we all need down time.

gostraighttojail Sat 20-Apr-13 12:15:53

I mean that we will usually go swimming in the morning, then to the zoo in the afternoon. Or to the park, then to an ice cream parlour. Or something. But not loads of hanging round the house with the TV on.

500internalerror Sat 20-Apr-13 12:16:52

Everyone needs fire-gazing time, not just when ill.

What makes you need so much structure?

gostraighttojail Sat 20-Apr-13 12:17:08

I have offered to do loads of things. He has said no. Totally out of character, poor DS hmm

squeakytoy Sat 20-Apr-13 12:17:37

children do not need entertaining and trips out every bloody weekend.. they are meant to be treats! there is nothing wrong in a child learning to not be bored in their own company and finding things to do rather than be out on structured activities at every opportunity..

pinkyredrose Sat 20-Apr-13 12:17:39

Oh ffs . He's 4! how structured is his leisure time usually?

gostraighttojail Sat 20-Apr-13 12:17:56

I guess I feel guilty that we are unable to do things together in the week, 500.

Jinsei Sat 20-Apr-13 12:18:31

OP, I agree that hours in front of the TV isn't desirable, but it's a bit different when they're not well.

Also, I think unstructured time is really important for children. Does he have time to just do his own thing, play his own games etc?

enjolraslove Sat 20-Apr-13 12:20:08

We are having exactly the same sort of day. Dd is tired after a full nursery week (normally only does 3 days and had been on holiday for two weeks with me so a real shock to the system!). She is very happy, singing along to various songs in the films, while pouring more toys onto the floor and making complicated games. We may make a trip to 1 shop later but that is it. I think everyone needs a chill out day every now and again!

CadleCrap Sat 20-Apr-13 12:21:18

Why can't you just "do" reading a book?

Jinsei Sat 20-Apr-13 12:22:04

OP, I have always worked FT as well, but please, ditch the guilt! It's great to do nice things with your kids at the weekend but don't let your need to over-compensate interfere with his need to chill and spend time doing his own thing.

flippinada Sat 20-Apr-13 12:22:23

Nothing wrong with that at all, we all need down days every now and then!

I understand why you feel anxious about it though, I get a bit like that too but as long as it's not all the time, I think it's fine smile .

Flobbadobs Sat 20-Apr-13 12:22:47

Oh don't worry, the occasional duvet day is absolutely fine. It wouldn't be much fun for him if he's not feeling great to be doing too much anyway!
A quiet day today and I bet he will be feeling much better tomorrow and will want to do something.

mrsjay Sat 20-Apr-13 12:24:07

if you are feeling ill do you want to do fun things or do you want to sit and slob and feel better ?

mrsjay Sat 20-Apr-13 12:25:26

oh and when i am ill Input and conversation is the last thing i need or want tis the same for a child smile

insancerre Sat 20-Apr-13 12:26:25

children need unstructured time
they need to learn how to amuse themselves and to just 'be'

Xiaoxiong Sat 20-Apr-13 12:29:39

When I'm ill all I want to do is lie on the sofa and watch DVDs with my family dancing attendance on my every need and then leaving me alone, so sounds pretty in-character for your DS to want the same grin

Hope he feels better soon.

Leave him be, like all kids, he will let you know when he wants something.

gostraighttojail Sat 20-Apr-13 12:29:50

Oh we read plenty of books, whoever asked why we can't ever read a book!! He loves them - all 4 year olds do, I'm sure!!
Trying to stop being so twitchy. Thanks for the advice.

We are all a bit hyperactive in this family. Don't really enjoy staying in much really!

WorraLiberty Sat 20-Apr-13 12:30:55

I would have hated too much structured time as a kid.

Part of growing up is learning to occupy themselves when they're bored.

Let him do what he wants until he feels better.

eggsandwich Sat 20-Apr-13 12:32:15

sounds to me that your trying to compensate at the weekends for the fact that both you and your dh work, and trying in my opinion too hard to make sure that he doesn't miss out on a family life. Just relax, if he's unwell just leave him to watch tv, it will probably do him good not to do any activities.

Doogle2 Sat 20-Apr-13 12:41:06

Grab some snacks, get a snuggle blanket and enjoy a cuddle with him in front of the telly. He will love it.

Jinsei Sat 20-Apr-13 12:41:37

My dd is currently upstairs in her pyjamas playing with her sylvanian families. It's her standard routine for a Saturday morning and she disappears for a couple of hours into her own glorious little world. She tends to be quite busy through the week as she's the kind of kid who signs up for everything. Later, she will be going to her dance class. She absolutely needs some time just to do whatever takes her fancy. No schedule, no structure, no pressure.

I hope your little boy feels better soon.

mrsjay Sat 20-Apr-13 13:03:29

I loved the quote ^ ^ of just letting them be it is ok you know to let them amuse themselves for a while

I think it is important for children to have down time which can include watching TV if you like and also have time when they are expected to amuse themselves. I don't think you are doing your DS any favours in keeping him so busy, perhaps you should feel guilty for that instead.

Crinkle77 Sat 20-Apr-13 13:18:04

If he is not feeling well then surely there is nothing better than lying in bed watching telly. Don't think it's going to harm him.

guanosoup Sat 20-Apr-13 13:20:06

In a similar vein, I usually cook all meals from scratch.
As I am shattered due to working 26 hours in the last two days, I have just given them fish fingers and frozen veg.

When they were younger, that meal would have really pushed all my mummy-guilt buttons, but I have come to realise that
a) they won't die of malnutrtion,
b) they'll appreciate a home cooked meal next time, and;
c) they enjoy the change.
So, your boy will probably get similar benefits from his chilled out day, I am benefitting from mine, I'm certain! grin

Snazzynewyear Sat 20-Apr-13 13:21:19

One day of just lying around watching tv is not going to do any harm, and it would be unkind anyway to force him out somewhere if he really doesn't feel like it. He gets 'positive input' from you all the time, from the sound of it, so there's nothing to worry about.

mrsjay Sat 20-Apr-13 13:23:07

OP just being nosy but why do you feel so guilty about not amusing or engaging with him when you do it anyway,

mrsjay Sat 20-Apr-13 13:23:56

FWIW there is nowt wrong with frozen fish fingers grin

500internalerror Sat 20-Apr-13 13:25:12

We are all still in pjs - might get up in a bit! We've browsed some recipe books, written a letter, watched tv. smile

FunnysInLaJardin Sat 20-Apr-13 13:26:43

YANBU, weekends are for chilling out. DS1 would spend all day on mine craft if we let him and sometimes we do! He is 7

KristinaM Sat 20-Apr-13 13:27:25

It's sounds like its you who's not enjoying staying in today.

So why don't you go out and leave your p to watch your child, then swap later

guanosoup Sat 20-Apr-13 13:27:56

Mrs jay, a fish finger sandwich is the food of the gods!
But ten years ago, I thought my babies would not appreciate them. I jave learned ti go with the flow. Life is so much simpler! smile

Dancergirl Sat 20-Apr-13 13:31:50

OP, don't put your guilt about not be able to do things in the week above your ds' wants or needs. I know it's tempting to fill every minute at the weekend if you work full time, but really your little boy will be happier just pottering around with you in the background. He's had a long week at school too and probably doesn't want to go on a lot of structured outings.

mrsjay Sat 20-Apr-13 13:32:08

*Mrs jay, a fish finger sandwich is the food of the gods!
But ten years ago, I thought my babies would not appreciate them. I jave learned ti go with the flow. Life is so much simpler! *

<nods> smile

ballstoit Sat 20-Apr-13 13:44:11

Go and get in with him, my DC love having a duvet day with me occasionally. We stay in my bed all day, and eat our meals there too...they chill out, and chat to me and each other. Its you being there that he needs, not a trip every weekend.

"I feel uncomfortable that he is upstairs watching TV and not getting any positive input from me or anyone or anything."
Maybe you could bring him downstairs and snuggle watch TV together?

OhLori Sat 20-Apr-13 14:49:51

PLZ - its OK! As a family you sound like you could relax a bit more smile.

However, watching TV when ill is a mixed blessing, I have found and I restrict it if son is ill. IMO, if you're ill, its better not to watch TV. Instead, to be in bed with low light, a couple of books and mum and dad just popping in/ making a fuss to see if he's OK!

PicaK Sat 20-Apr-13 18:43:26

Well, sitting around watching tv is what i want to do when ill so i'd leave him be.

I'm v similar to you in that i like to be out doing stuff in the morning and afternoon. i'm a sahm so i think it's more to do with what type of person you are than whether you work enough.

If you were dragging him to kumon maths and chinese then yabu to the kid. But a trip to the park isn't really a structured activity in my book. It's just a nice thing to do.

Kids that age need some time alone to play and some time to be played with. Thinking watching and commenting rather than monopoly!

PicaK Sat 20-Apr-13 18:44:35

Have a movie afternoon and curl up with him on sofa under a snuggly blanket if he's not well.

ouryve Sat 20-Apr-13 18:47:17

Sounds like he needs the time to just be.

Bobyan Sat 20-Apr-13 18:59:49

positive input

He's four ffs.

Floggingmolly Sat 20-Apr-13 19:50:20

He's a 4 year old who's not feeling well. Why would you want to drag him to the zoo with an ice cream parlour to follow? confused. For who's benefit??
You don't sound pushy to me, but you do sound incredibly tense.
Lighten up.

gostraighttojail Sat 20-Apr-13 21:17:16

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pictish Sat 20-Apr-13 21:21:09

Um...ok...I'm not one for slagging off other parenting choices, and I was about to say that I felt the thread was a getting a bit critical, but tbh, you've just trumped the lot OP!

Signet2012 Sat 20-Apr-13 21:22:22

I don't think it's lazy.
It's all in moderation. You don't need to constantly keep a 4 year old on the go. I wouldn't say that's good for them. How will they learn to entertain themselves?

hingmy Sat 20-Apr-13 21:38:44

You're strange, OP.

Zappo Sat 20-Apr-13 21:39:14

I'm much like you OP. I tend to organise something for us to do (not necessarily big outings) in the morning and afternoon just to get us out of the house and break up the day. We have a small house and it gets unbelievably tense if we stay in. My DD4 isn't that good at entertaining herself, although she is getting better now her sibling is getting older. Normally I have to join in with everything except when she's watching TV and I don't like her to have the TV on too much.

Whilst I do enjoy playing with her, I do sometimes need to do other things. When DD is bored or demanding my attention, I just cannot get on with anything else. Also she starts to do things which wind me up so I find going out much easier.

I long for the day when we can just relax and potter round the house all day and it won't be the chore/charged atmospherre it often is.

elfycat Sat 20-Apr-13 21:41:41

Kids need to get bored

link

I find mine get really inventive if left to their own devices while listening for any suspicious silences

FunnysInLaJardin Sat 20-Apr-13 21:41:48

lol yes we are lazy bastards. I have had a shitter of a week at work as has DH, the DC have had school and so we chilled out. DS1 played on the computer most of the day, DS2 and DH mowed the lawn, we all went to the garden centre for a bit. We had no structured activity at all and it was bliss! We did some washing and cooking and enjoyed our home and garden. Lovely. And do you know that is what kids need. Some down time

FunnysInLaJardin Sat 20-Apr-13 21:42:40

btw our dc are 3 and 7

My four year olds have enjoyed a day of movie watching and then a trip to B&Q and Asda.

I don't feel worried, I've had things to do which require NO pre-schooler input.

We almost never have big outings because we have 3 (four this weekend, with DSS) so they are few and far between. Once a month maybe, we'll do something more exotic than the park. Four year olds are pretty easily please IMO and don't need what I would call a treat day out every weekend.

PS - I work full time too, so this has nothing to do with me spending time with them during the week!

VinegarDrinker Sat 20-Apr-13 21:46:41

Sick child : day in front of the TV, no issue at all.

I would bring him down to the sofa though so you can sit and watch with him or at least pop in and out and chat, and he is still involved in your day. If he's feeling that rough I'd prefer to have half an eye on him anyway.

Haberdashery Sat 20-Apr-13 21:48:12

I am a lazy bastard and happy to be one. I have one six year old who's really not in the least demanding and sometimes we just put our pyjamas on, get into bed, watch crap telly and eat sandwiches, crisps and other non-cookable easy food all day. Just because we can and one or other of us is tired or just feels like it. It doesn't seem to have done her any harm. Chill. Sometimes everyone needs a day off. And your son is ill. It would probably be absolute torture for him to be dragged round a zoo or something. I can't think of anything I'd like less when I'm poorly, short of actually sticking myself with pins or something.

Zappo Sat 20-Apr-13 21:53:22

But I think when the OP said structured she meant some sort of plan for the day, not karate and trampolining lessons.

I think many SAHP would say they went out in the morning to a toddler group or library and a park in the afternoon so in that respect don't think the OP is doing anything that unusual.

Some of the outings we do consist of no more than a walk to the corner shop for an icecream, a trip to the supermarket or feeding the ducks but I do think many children need to get out of the house for some of the day.

In fact mine are always asking to go out somewhere. We then always get back for a few hours downtime before bed.

Haberdashery Sat 20-Apr-13 21:57:34

Well, yes. Getting out of the house is a good thing in general, but her son is ill. I bet he feels like just doing as close to nothing as is possible for someone who is four. IME that usually means television. If you're ill, you just want to do nothing, don't you? I know I do (not that I normally get the chance).

SaigonSaigon Sat 20-Apr-13 22:03:02

Was beginning to think others were being a wee bit too critical but by jove, OP, you win. Nasty.

MadBusLady Sat 20-Apr-13 22:08:16

grin AIBU is so totally made up today isn't it?

<gets sucked in>

imour Sat 20-Apr-13 22:12:35

only child by any chance ?

Fakebook Sat 20-Apr-13 22:13:31

We lock all the doors, draw the curtains and watch tv all day in this house. We also eat in bed and on the toilet and in the bath. Structure smucture. Pfft.

Whatalotofpiffle Sat 20-Apr-13 22:14:07

Ha ha ha op, harsh!!! Everything in moderation. Not sure you understand that, far too busy in my opinion. Having down time does not mean lazy.

ChippingInLovesSpring Sat 20-Apr-13 22:18:56

Have you hairy hands op?

Bobyan Sat 20-Apr-13 22:18:56

Op maybe if you learned to relax and enjoy your children more you wouldn't be having relationship issues.

iPadTypo Sat 20-Apr-13 22:23:03

/hijack...*elfycat*...thanks for the interesting article link!

Sharptic Sat 20-Apr-13 22:38:11

Most weekends we do not leave the house until the afternoon.

I have 2 DS and I intentionally leave them with no ' positive input' for a half day at least , and after a short time, they will create their own fantasy world which I love to listen to.

They are primary age though, I think once they start school, there is more reason to chill at the weekends.

It sounds fine to leave a child who is ill to watch tv or whatever they need to do to get their energy back.

level3at6months Sat 20-Apr-13 22:45:29

We go all over the place. DS rarely gets a whole day in to watch tv and when he does, he LOVES it. And, you know, there's nothing wrong with that. The world will not end.

SpanishFly Sat 20-Apr-13 22:53:22

I have a friend who's like this and it drives me nuts. Monday football lessons, tuesday swimming, Wednesday karate, Thursday music lessons etc etc.
Kids need to have down time/relaxation time AND theyre supposed to get bored, it's how they develop an imagination - they shouldn't be TOLD how to spend their free time.
I'm not sure why you think an occasional day of nothing at all is being "lazy bastards"! Wow. You asked for opinions then insult whoever gives you theirs. You even acknowledged that we'd possibly consider you're a "pushy mum"

GreenPeppercorn Sat 20-Apr-13 22:56:51

Sometimes I think I am perhaps the most ill fitting person ever to use MN and then I see a post just five in from squeakytoy and I breathe a sigh of relief and think...ahhhhh, someone else who thinks just a little bit like me grin

JassyRadlett Sat 20-Apr-13 23:19:28

OP, I was sort of sympathetic to you until that last post.

For the record, you're doing precisely what my DS's nursery advises parents not to do. Their advice is that kids are usually knackered by the end of their nursery week as they pack the time with activities. Kids need less structure, more quiet time and more home time on their non-nursery days as a result.

I don't know your childcare arrangements but chances are he gets a pretty full-on week and needs both down time and home time more than he's getting with your need to be 'out and doing'. Which sounds like it's about you and your feelings.

If 'positive input' requires you to be out of the house and doing Wholesome Activities, and you can't provide positive input to an off-colour child while snuggling, reading, and watching telly, then that's not very amazing.

Today, we walked into town (20 minutes, took twice as long because of stopping to talk to flowers). meg DH after his haircut and had morning tea. Errands, home for lunch and out in the garden for most of the afternoon, with DS pottering about with his trowel. Overtired meltdown just before his dinner so administered food in front of Cbeebies as a treat then snuggled in front of the telly for about an hour.

JassyRadlett Sat 20-Apr-13 23:22:02

Sorry, posted too soon. We did manage to make up a new song, he tried out some new words/labels (he's 19 months) and I got the chance to see how his mind operates these days when we're not bothering him. Which I wouldn't have had if we'd spent the whole day Out.

SpanishFly Sat 20-Apr-13 23:32:59

If youre always Very Busy at weekends, when do you do"stuff" like shopping, going to b&q, cutting the grass, haircuts, relaxing, drinking wine etc etc etc?

SpanishFly Sat 20-Apr-13 23:33:43

Children are meant to fit in with you, not the other way around

YoniOrNotYoni Sat 20-Apr-13 23:52:55

Well, this is a new one.

OP: Aibu?
MN: yanbu
OP: fuck you all anyway

hmm

OP - what did you want people to say?

joannita Sat 20-Apr-13 23:59:41

Yanbu. Sounds like you need a day off too!

seeker Sun 21-Apr-13 00:00:25

If he has a TV in his room you are being unreasonable.

If he is watching the TV lying on the sofa in the living room you are not BU.

If he is watching the TV lying on the sofa in the living room with you cuddled up next to him, you are a perfect parent.

Maryz Sun 21-Apr-13 00:05:32

[arf] at Yoni.

Kids need to learn to be bored. It is good practice for their job when they are older grin.

Though I agree with seeker about tv's in bedrooms.

cestlavielife Sun 21-Apr-13 00:11:12

The problem here is he is upstairs with tv In his own room ??
Does he have a tv in his room or is it an upstairs playroom ? Are there other dc ?

If he is as was said with everyone else but on sofa tucked up then no problem. Have him watch cbeebies. It s fine.

Thingiebob Sun 21-Apr-13 00:15:14

Can you watch tv with him? Or chill out next to him?

He is ill. Let him rest.

As the risk of sounding like a 'lazy bastard', when I am ill or my daughter is ill, we chill out on my very large bed, playing iPad games/watching DVDs/reading/listening to music and sometimes she plays with her toys next to me whilst I go on MN.

SpanishFly Sun 21-Apr-13 00:19:11

PS part of me being a lazy bastard is due to the fact that going to the zoo is fucking expensive

pictish Sun 21-Apr-13 00:23:53

Oh yes the zoo is extortionate!!

It's lovely if you can afford all these wonderful activities, going to the zoo and eating out every weekend. Super!

OnTheNingNangNong Sun 21-Apr-13 00:27:57

Is this some kind of AIBU stealth boast? 'I can afford ice cream and Zoo trips and you can't'

Thingiebob Sun 21-Apr-13 00:49:32

Actually I need to know if the child has a tv in his room before I can judge properly.

MidniteScribbler Sun 21-Apr-13 03:53:02

OP, as a teacher, I can tell you that you aren't doing your child any favours by sticking so rigidly to a structure. Going to lots of stimulating activities like the zoo is absolutely a fabulous learning opportunity for children, but so is baking a cake, or learning how to read and cook a recipe. Planting a few seeds in your backyard can be fun and relaxing and is also educational. Leaving your children alone with a pile of dress up clothes or lego and letting them use their imaginations can be just as educational. There is actually a lot of benefit in teaching children how to play by themselves.

There really is nothing "lazy bastard" about having a relaxing day. If you're working all week, and the children are at care/school, then having a day out can be just what you need to reconnect as a family, recharge your batteries and prepare for another busy week ahead. The origin of the word "recreation" is to 'restoration, recovery'. That's what your weekends should be about. Sure, if you're spending all day everyday in bed for no medical reason, then yes, that's lazy, but curling up under the doona and watching a movie together is just as valuable 'family time' as a trip to the zoo or any other activity.

My greatest memories from childhood aren't the days my parents took me to the zoo, or even the overseas trips we went on. It's sunday morning when I'd go and jump in to their bed, dad reading the paper, mum and I trying to steal the comics from him, eating johnny cakes with too much golden syrup which we tried lick around the edges before they dripped on the bedspread. That still remains my favourite memories of my parents.

Try it. You might even enjoy it.

CadleCrap Sun 21-Apr-13 06:41:33

LOL at being a lazy bastard because an ill child doesn't want to go swimming.

Poor wee might. sad

CadleCrap Sun 21-Apr-13 06:44:14

mite ffs

Dolallytats Sun 21-Apr-13 07:55:37

I was feeling sorry for you worrying like that until your last post. Going out is not always an option, it doesn't make you lazy. I am agoraphobic so, for the most part, my 5 year old is stuck in with me (his dad works long hours and takes him to the park when he can).

Instead we play games together on the computer (cbeebies), we chat and tickle and joke and laugh. We play board games, read books, bake, build lego, play dinosaurs, paint and make boring household stuff fun......and we watch TV and he plays Star Wars on his xbox.

It's just the way it is and we're ok.

gostraighttojail Sun 21-Apr-13 17:35:43

To the person who asked when I have time to go shopping and clean the house etc, well I guess I am lucky in the fact that I don't need to do those things.

I don't understand the rudeness: is it because I don't think staying in bed all day is ok?

And another assumption that you made: Ds goes neither to school, nor pre-school.

And I couldn't get into bed with him as I was mostly too busy running round the grounds with the other DCs.

SpanishFly Sun 21-Apr-13 17:49:54

The rudeness is that you asked for advice, acknowledging that you might be flamed, but when people do comment you call them lazy bastards.

Wishiwasanheiress Sun 21-Apr-13 17:53:22

Dear heavens no wonder the child wants some time with a TV...

Hulababy Sun 21-Apr-13 17:54:49

It is really important to a child's development to have some unmanaged time regularly. They should not be micromanaged every minute or every day.

They need time and space to play on their own, to make up games, wander around in their own world, and just time to relax and chill.

Learning to occupy their own time and cure their own "boredom" for want of a better term is a very good skill for them to learn, and yes - from this young age too.

KitchenandJumble Sun 21-Apr-13 17:56:17

The grounds? Of your estate?

LegArmpits Sun 21-Apr-13 18:01:31

I am ROFLING.

YoniOrNotYoni Sun 21-Apr-13 18:09:06

I've only noticed one poster being rude...

fuzzpig Sun 21-Apr-13 18:23:23

Darn it I missed the deleted message sad

FWIW I am disabled so the DCs don't get to do much in the way of enriching activities - not that we can afford it anyway. They are stuck at home pretty much all the time. I did actually break down in tears about this at my ME support group, but the others (including the psychologist leading it) told me that trips out aren't as important and aren't as remembered as, for example, the movie night we have every Friday, snuggled up close under a blanket with the lights off and a bowl of popcorn.

I do still get the Guilt sometimes, but TBH even before I became ill, I was always a bit bemused by a few friends who felt incapable of just 'being', it was constant trips out and activity clubs etc, there was no down time. Different strokes I guess.

gostraighttojail Sun 21-Apr-13 18:24:05

Oh yes, totally forgot: of course, no TV in the DCs rooms. Of course not.

fuzzpig Sun 21-Apr-13 18:29:53

I do understand the Guilt BTW, and I know people feel it about different things. I mean this was the only thing I cried about in the entire run of group meetings. I had previously talked at length about self harm, agoraphobia, sexual abuse and neglect, work issues etc with barely a crack in my voice... but it was the feeling of I'm not a good enough mum that had me sobbing my heart out.

(PS - I'm not even sure if the OP is interested in what any of us I am saying, but I have written this in case there is anyone else reading this who is upset about this type of thing)

You left a 4 year old alone in the house while you ran around the grounds with your other DC? Please say you left a member of your staff in the house with him. I wouldn't leave a 4 yo alone, particularly an ill one who could really do with being close to his mother. It sounds quite sad to leave a poorly 4 yo alone.

LetsFaceTheMusicAndDance Sun 21-Apr-13 19:27:41

Nice wind up thread OP grin

gostraighttojail Sun 21-Apr-13 19:28:23

Oh I've heard it all now!

Yes, thank you, plenty of staff and CCTV.

I am confused......

SweetSeraphim Sun 21-Apr-13 19:43:23

Perhaps you could have got one of your staff to entertain dc for the day. Don't your nails need doing or something? hmm

fuzzpig Sun 21-Apr-13 19:44:53

Well I feel like a twat now. Don't usually fall for wind ups

Yonionekanobe Sun 21-Apr-13 20:40:20

Don't worry fuzzpig - this one is barmy confused

SpanishFly Sun 21-Apr-13 22:56:48

Is this the Queen posting this?

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