to think that smoking weed is distasteful?

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My best friend recently revealed that she smokes a lot of weed, as does her new boyfriend and most of her friends.
My OH also knows a lot of weed-smokers but doesn't himself.
It seems like it is more common than I thought, a little like smoking tobacco.

I have never smoked weed (which means that I'm not allowed to judge in my best friends opinion) and do think less of people who do.

It stinks, kills brain cells and, of course, is illegal.

If you need to relax have a cup of tea, do some yoga or some other legal, less smelly hobby.

AIBU to dislike weed and the casual attitude surrounding this drug?

(be nice! I'm not an evil witch trying to squash fun)

doubleshotespresso Fri 19-Apr-13 18:57:16

I detest it, for all the reasons you detailed, but am in a similar situation to yourself.... Many friends do, mostly to "unwind" from work etc but it does hinder social arrangements and youbarebright absolutely stinks!

HollyBerryBush Fri 19-Apr-13 18:59:33

I've never taken an illegal substance and I judge those who do.

I await someone to come along and tell me they are 73 and it eases their arthritis

CloudsAndTrees Fri 19-Apr-13 18:59:45

Yanbu to dislike it. There are lots of valid reasons for disliking it. YABU to think less of people that smoke it unless you also think less of people that have a glass of wine. To many people, it's not really that different. It does smell, but people can smell in private if they want to.

Lj8893 Fri 19-Apr-13 19:01:08

I've done it all in my younger wild single days and to be honest had a blast!!! Done Amsterdam twice and have no bad memories.

However when I grew up (about 24 yrs old) got into a serious relationship and settled down I put all that behind me and don't miss it, it's nt something I would have ever wanted to do as a continuous hobby!

HeySoulSister Fri 19-Apr-13 19:01:38

wine is LEGAL tho??

Bowlersarm Fri 19-Apr-13 19:01:42

What age are you OP? I'm in my 40's and know no one who smokes weed. Is it a generational thing?

NiceTabard Fri 19-Apr-13 19:02:47

If she's your best friend I'm surprised you didn't know before.

If she's your best friend it would be a shame to alter your opinion of her based on something that has been happening while you have been friends with her anyway.

Branleuse Fri 19-Apr-13 19:02:49

you can like or dislike as you please, but what they do in their own homes in private isn't really any of your business

I am 21.

My best friends boyfriend who smokes it is 40 (a whole 'nother thread on that subject) and my other best friend is 37 and she and all her, similarly aged, friends smoke it too.

NiceTabard Fri 19-Apr-13 19:03:40

Social circles bowlersarm rather than age I think.

Surprised that 2 people who are best friends could be in this situation.

lovelilies Fri 19-Apr-13 19:03:51

I used to smoke a lot of weed in my early 20s....grin
Had a blast!
Then I grew up and look back with fond memories....

Don't get me wrong, I'm not talking about my best friend in particularly - she is wonderful and I love her - She just bought it to light to me how casually some people treat weed.

not talking about my best friend in *particular

I have butter fingers today! must be all that pot

catgirl1976 Fri 19-Apr-13 19:06:04

I think most people grow out of it

I smoked it from about 14 to 22 but wouldn't dream of doing so now

A bit like wearing hot pants or drinking Hooch

nenevomito Fri 19-Apr-13 19:07:10

You're not unreasonable to dislike it, but what other people do in their own homes / spare time / at parties and so on and so on is nowt to do with you.

I know a lot of people who smoke, or have smoked or still occasionally smoke weed. I did when I was younger, but not any more as it really doesn't mix with a family and a job, but if offered at a party probably wouldn't say no.

Its only a problem IMO if its done to excess, but lets face lots of things are a problem if its done to excess.

I smoke quite a bit of weed, a few times a week. I take a high dose of ADs and weed helps more.....I tend to go more for sativa (mental high) and really appreciate the way it makes me totally slow down and go into a very rare calm state, more a stoned feeling than high. I know my dealer and the stuff I get is pure bud, reasonably priced and I don't usually have it alone. It's also made me cut way down on alcohol. When I think of the place I was two years ago, very down and in the dark, and I realise the progress I've made, I can't help being grateful to weed, because it has made a difference. Tea doesn't cut it OP smile

Of course you can judge if you haven't taken weed, but then at the same time it's harder for you to balance the negatives against the positives....which is what everyone has to do if they want to answer a Q like this properly.
There's heaps more I could say but just wanted to get initial thoughts out.

VerySmallSqueak Fri 19-Apr-13 19:09:00

I find the word 'distasteful' a bit odd.

I used to smoke a bit of puff way back when,but it was different stuff then.

Skunk now is a completely different thing and I wouldn't go near it.

If others want to do it,it's up to them. But I prefer to be around people who don't.

Bowlersarm Fri 19-Apr-13 19:11:04

Ah ok not an age thing then. Just control it then when you can, when they're in your home, but there's not much you can do to influence them otherwise. But if she's wonderful and you love her then it doesn't matter if that part of her life doesn't impact on you?

I hate hate hate the smell. It is horrible. I judge people who smoke weed but I am lucky enough not to have friends who do.

It's not really affecting my opinion of her and it certainly isn't affecting my relationship with her - I was just using it as an example as to how unusually common it is.

Lj8893 Fri 19-Apr-13 19:15:01

Saying that, I know some extremely successful people who love nothing better than a spliff at the end of the day, they don't make a big thing about it and if I didn't know them as well as I do I wouldn't even know they did it.

OnTheNingNangNong Fri 19-Apr-13 19:16:02

I smoked weed and took a lot of illegal drugs in my teens. By 18 I had got bored of it all and had a LTR with a man who would have ended it if I used drugs, so I stopped and haven't touched anything in about 9 years.

YANBU to judge, but YABU to let it affect a friendship that's been good so far.

janey68 Fri 19-Apr-13 19:17:00

I think smoking is pretty rank full stop. Weed is mixed with tobacco to smoke so it's no better than smoking a packet of bog standard fags- ie: smelly and full of toxins. If people need to chill, there are plenty of non harmful and non smelly methods instead.

Again, nothing to do with my best friend! I'm talking about weed in general.

NiceTabard Fri 19-Apr-13 19:18:43

I think it is very common in some social groups and absolutely frowned up in others. The two groups don't generally mix well grin which I why I wondered how you two were best friends! Especially so young - when I was 21 I had TMI to the max about what my friends were up to, as they did me! And because we were friends it was generally the same sort of thing IYSWIM.

marjproops Fri 19-Apr-13 19:18:46

but they often dont smoke it indoors, they go outdside in their gardens or out the front and the smell wafts over garden fences and past windows....i do NOT want to smell it,nor do i want my child smelling it. do it IN your house (same with cigarette smoke)

plus anyione who smokes ANYTHING around their children.....(worse in cars)

and i once had a flatmate who did this and the smell would waft on ME and then looked like I was smoking it. and it made me sick.

Weed isn't necessarily mixed with tobacco. I never like it that way. I do smoke but not heavily, and holding tobacco smoke in my lungs as long as I do with a joint is just....well, I don't like it. If you buy ready rolled spliffs it's usually bulked out with tobacco. But if you roll your own you can make it as you like it. Many people who throw up on their first go do so just because they're not used to nicotine, not because the bud is bad quality or mixed with any weird unknown stuff.

I have a friend who loves the smell but has an insanely high tolerance to the stuff itself. He can smoke triple the amount it takes me to get knocked off my socks and just feel a bit more serene. And he's tried a lot of different stuff.

OnTheNingNangNong Fri 19-Apr-13 19:25:38

you can get ready rolled spliff? shock

yeah, you want one? wink

this is what i mean about the casual attitude to an illegal substance!

Fargo86 Fri 19-Apr-13 19:29:18

I don't mind what people do but people that feel the need to tell everyone that they do it are just boring people.

^ thanks for that Fargo

TheSeventhHorcrux, if it was legalised tomorrow, would people taking it not bother you so much?

Lj8893 Fri 19-Apr-13 19:31:07

Totally agree Fargo, they aren't doing it because they are enjoying it, they are doing it because they think its "cool" which just makes thm extremely uncool in my opinion!

mrsjay Fri 19-Apr-13 19:31:55

weed is supposed to mellow folk out it makes them paranoid defensive and of course it is mind altering I hate it, My friend used to smoke it when she was younger I would be in her house when she was stoned I tried not to judge as i do like her, anyway she hasnt smoked it in years she has a few mental health problems now which I do know long term weed smokers can get, she is your friend you like her as long as she isnt smoking near you then dont stop being her friend

OnTheNingNangNong Fri 19-Apr-13 19:33:07

quirrel, don't tempt me! wink

It's very very common here and i don't really care much but i can't stand the smell, it fucking stinks. if i walk through a cloud of smoke in the street it practially knocks me out and i used to smoke 20 fags a day

DH says he can tell which of his apprentices smoke pot because they have shockingly bad memories and no concentration, so he has to have a word sometimes to tell them to cut down of an evening shock

NiceTabard Fri 19-Apr-13 19:34:55

A lot of people (whether they indulge or not) are not convinced of the sense of the current laws. All that stuff with Prof Nutt and the harm done by different drugs. Some people do have a casual attitude to drugs - different social groups will be casual about different things. It's not new, all of this. Human beings have used drugs ever since they first discovered that if you ate that leaf or sniffed that berry you felt all cheerful, like.

TheSeventhHorcrux, if it was legalised tomorrow, would people taking it not bother you so much?

It would still bother me yes. But its illegal, so kind of a moot point.

erowid Fri 19-Apr-13 19:38:04

Good post NiceTabard

seriouscakeeater Fri 19-Apr-13 19:38:22

Hate it! I was in a queue the other day and a woman with a pram STANK of it! I hate what it does to people.

I also hate smoking im an ex smoker

Yes alcohol is very damaging too. I live in a area where a lot of young people smoke it, it take the life out of most of them, my cousin being one of them.

Ashoething Fri 19-Apr-13 19:38:52

I dabbled with drugs when I was younger but never weed-I HATE smoking with a passion so never tempted me.

My bil is addicted to weed. Been smoking it since he was 16. Has tried to give up loads of times and ended up on ad's and sleeping tablets. I can tell when he is having trouble getting hold of any as he is a horrible moody twathmm Sil accepts it as "its better than him going to the pub every night!hmm

I do judge people who smoke it tbh.

confusteling Fri 19-Apr-13 19:49:30

I personally don't like it.

I don't know many people who haven't had it at least once, including my best friend, a lot of people I went to school with, most people at uni, my ex flatmates, my neighbour, her daughter, my cousin (who started at age 14 or so), another cousin..

I am under psychiatric care and see a psychologist weekly and as such wouldn't be willing to take it at all, I could do without my problems getting worse. I mentioned to my GP that I had a friend who smoked weed and her reaction convinced me that it's not worth it - I imagine these people see the other side, treat people who've had bad reactions etc.

That said I wouldn't judge someone who chooses to use drugs, I just think it's insane and worry for their health. Having had MH issues and having a very good friend with psychosis, I wouldn't do anything to risk it!!

I have taken a tranquiliser when I wasn't prescribed it, to calm myself down when I was suffering panic attack after panic attack one night. It was my sister's prescription, 2mg diazepam, my mum advised me to take it, she had my best interests at heart and that. I had an odd reaction (and have since had the same, and as such can't take mediciations of that class) and ended up very distressed, suicidal, on the phone to NHS 24 and the Samaritans at 4am. I won't take a thing now unless I've been prescribed it or bought it from a pharmacy.

Bowlersarm Fri 19-Apr-13 19:50:32

Soooo you're not asking about what to do about it in relation to your friend? You're having a general chat about it?

confusteling Fri 19-Apr-13 19:53:43

It does smell, I remember the girls smoked it on the school buses and I hated the smell. I used to come home stinking of it.

Corygal Fri 19-Apr-13 19:54:52

I've just finished talking down a friend of mine whose teen neice is on month 5 in a secure unit - staff suspect first episode schizophrenia. No disease in the family, so the doctors are suggesting it was the girl's skunk use.

The girl isn't being let out anytime soon.

Bowlersarm - yes. That's why my question was "AIBU to dislike weed and the casual attitude surrounding this drug?" and the title was "AIBU to think that smoking weed is distasteful?" not "What should I do about my friend who smokes weed".

mrsjay Fri 19-Apr-13 19:55:32

friends dog used to be a police sniffer dog she says it can be a bit embarassing when out walking as dog will stop at random people and just stare at them grin

Branleuse Fri 19-Apr-13 19:56:14

I've found weed has really helped me reduce my antidepressants and also stopped me needing sleeping tablets. gives me far less side effects than any of my prescription medication ever did.
I'm not a big smoker by any stretch but I've just found it so helpful.

mrsjay Fri 19-Apr-13 19:56:43

that is bloody tragic corygirl sad

My friend MH problems were quite severe in the past it has to have something to do with it,

Bowlersarm Fri 19-Apr-13 19:59:49

Yes then. YANBU because weed is an illegal drug, smells, takes over peoples evenings, and is probably bad for you. No one is going to say YABU-are they.

janey68 Fri 19-Apr-13 20:01:22

I think the fact that the people who are singing the praises of it, tend to be the ones who are saying 'it helps me reduce my anti depressants' or 'helps me sleep without needing sleeping pills' or 'helps me chill out because I'm uptight' kind of speaks volumes.
I guess it seems the lesser of two evils but that doesn't make it an intelligent choice

quoteunquote Fri 19-Apr-13 20:07:58

If you don't like it don't have some, I doubt someone will force you to.

The plant was around long before humans walked the earth, it will be here after we depart, making it illegal only makes people more determined to access it, it's even more silly than prohibition, and will never work.

Many animals self medicate with it, male elephants use it to calm themselves when they are getting horny, apes, monkeys, wolves, many animals have been observed using it.

Many medical conditions are treated with it, it works fantastically as pain relief for some chronic illness,

It gets used for people with cancer, it's used endless medically, I'm very grateful to the people who supplied it to my sisters and I in the beginning of the 90's, as our mother neared the end of her life, we stirred it in to a little yogurt, the relief to her was amazing, she was not someone who would of ever thought she would of had some, she stressed terrible about it, but once she felt relief for the first time in months of sheer hell, she became rather keen on the idea, much to our amusement and dads (he got over his reaction to idea when he saw his beloved dying wife without pain) , she was a senior social worker. we were tipped off to try it by a doctor, it made a massive difference to mum.

Pharmaceutical companies want to make money out of it, as do gangs, and terrorist, If it wasn't illegal , then no one will buy it off these people, and those who do want it can grow their own, and in places where this happens, people grow much weaker stuff.

OrWellyAnn Fri 19-Apr-13 20:08:59

Having been around very stoned people and very pissed peole I'd take the stoners any day, ime they tend to be more chilled and less inclined to violent or anti social behaviour. That said I'd probably choose not to be around anyone who had done either to huge excess these days. to a reasonable recreational level then booze or weed are fine, either one.

chandellina Fri 19-Apr-13 20:12:36

I don't smoke but I love the smell, very sweet, like incense. I think people should probably mind their own business unless someone's activity is infringing on your own wellbeing.

NiceTabard Fri 19-Apr-13 20:17:33

If people find that cannabis use improves their health / levels of pain, with fewer side effects than prescribed medication, then using cannabis seems like a reasonable thing to do. And not "unintelligent", as far as I am concerned.

Ruling out using something that improves your quality of life when you are unwell, on the basis of a politically arrived at (arguably outdated and incorrect) legal framework is unintelligent, or at the very least closed minded.

Latara Fri 19-Apr-13 20:23:29

I had a friend who would often roll what i'd assume was a fag then it would turn out to be a spliff when i was round hers.

It was annoying because then my clothes (inc. my coat) and my hair would smell of dope before work the next day, also i was passive smoking it.

She never asked if i minded (or offered me any either!). I soon stopped visiting, especially as she wanted me to be her drinking buddy too when i was trying to avoid too much alcohol.

Plus i had a flatmate who was a stoner and she would never let us all know before stinking the flat out.

Personally i tried it when i was young and smoked a bit but not for too long, i liked it too much and i knew i'd get addicted. Plus i didn't want to start smoking full stop.

SofaKing Fri 19-Apr-13 20:26:29

I smoke weed fairly regularly. Last year, I developed a medical condition which could have cost me my vision (the cause was unrelated to smoking weed).

A factor in me regaining my sight was the fact that cannabis acts as an anti-inflammatory, and lowers blood pressure, both of which aided my recovery.

I do wish public attitude against it was less prejudiced, as I believe it could have many medical applications, but it isn't used because it is illegal, and illegal is perceived as bad. I don't think that is necessarily the case.

CarpeDiemCras Fri 19-Apr-13 21:05:28

YANBU to think what you like about weed smoking. I don't like smoking and I'm not keen on the sheesham trend.

That said, I smoked a shedload of the the stuff in my early to mid 20s. I don't have a mental health condition. I do have motivation (went through promotions while still smoking it). I never smoked with tobacco. When smoking I only ever did it in the evenings and drank little to no alcohol.

I don't do it now because unfortunately hanging about with the sort of people who tend to sell it is incompatible with what I do for a living. If it was legal, I'd drink a lot less gin grin

I do acknowledge there are those it doesn't agree with (though the same could be said for alcohol with probably a much larger group).

As for apathy or paranoia, the only people I've ever encountered with those issues had it already, so it amplified their problems. Especially with apathy - they wanted an excuse and weed gave it to them.

DoJo Fri 19-Apr-13 22:21:27

I do think that those who are already predisposed to mental health problems might be the same who seek out ways to improve the way they feel, meaning that the figures about mental health problems in relation to drug use are probably skewed. And of course there is no knowing what might have happened to them if they hadn't been using any drugs.
I also know plenty of healthy, happy professionals, many of whom run their own companies, have perfectly 'normal' lives and are enviably happy and smoke a fair amount of weed - I think those who do it consider it to be similar to drinking alcohol, and the stigma of the legal position does make it seem much more subversive and than it actually is.

Thisvehicleisreversing Sat 20-Apr-13 00:29:09

I too think it's disgusting.
When I was younger a few friends of mine smoked it. The smell alone made me retch so there was no way I was going to try it.

One of the reasons I chose to go out with DH when we were younger was because he never touched the stuff either. So many lads we knew did so I loved the fact that DH didn't feel the need to follow the herd. I honestly couldn't have gone anywhere near a lad who did any kind of drugs.

I get really annoyed when I'm at work in my shop and customers come in stinking of the stuff. I don't understand how they can just brazenly go out without any embarrassment about how they smell. I really struggle to serve them as I have to hold my breath or I'll start retching. I have had to throw up at work after a lad completely stunk the shop out.

Do any weed smokers here not realise how vile the smell is? Oh and it's not even on a par with booze of fags in the stink stakes.

May I please beg weed smokers to not leave the house if you're going to smoke the stuff. No one else wants to smell it.

aldiwhore Sat 20-Apr-13 00:50:05

YANBU to hate it.

YANBU to point out it's illegal.

YANBU to acknowledge that, like a lot of things, it can be dangerous to some people in small doses, and is pretty much a BAD thing for everyone in large doses.

YABU to find it 'distasteful'. I simply think that's the incorrect word.

I find alcoholics tragic, I am wary of those who drink way way too much and think nothing of it or those who think alcohol is 'harmless' (for the record I probably drink over the gov guidelines in general, but I still believe there's a time and a place - and sobriety should be 'the norm' in a 24 hr day!)

I think too much alcohol is unhealthy, I think some people shouldn't drink AT ALL (my brother - him and alcohol simply do not mix). I think you can have fun without alcohol, Ithink you can relax without alcohol. I do not think relying on alcohol is a good thing. I have no issue with those who are teetotal, I don't even need to know their reason.

Exchange the above 'alcohol' references and there you go.

From your OP your friends spend too much time 'not sober' their drug of choice is weed. They are no different than anyone who doesn't fall into the addict category yet spends too much time not sober.

Can you tell I like weed? I would, if 'weed' (homegrown and rather weak by preference) were legal, forsake alcohol forever. I like a drink, but I like weed more. I also keep myself in check (alcohol or weed) and would worry if I wasn't sober most of the time! For the record, I don't smoke weed so much these days purely for the fact that's illegal, and when I became a parent, I took less risks, cared more about my 'slate' being clean and it wasn't a massive thing to sacrifice, I aslo drink less, swear less etc.,

I would like to be able to grow a couple of plants, to enjoy them, as one would a fine cigar. I do not think that makes me 'distasteful' or a criminal.

However, purely on your experiences with your friends YANBU, but my friends are not distasteful, weed if not in itself distasteful, your friends attitudes could be distasteful if they don't give a shit that they're more stoned than not, and their actions are irresponsible.

YANBU to feel there's nothing more boring than a friend who's constantly off thei face, regardless of their poison.

I've given up smoking, so now my annual 'spliff' (without children around, usually when fishing at sea with my brother!) is a cookie. I look on it as a fine treat and remain unapologetic, because it's something I occassionally enjoy.

The problem is rarely the herb you use, but rather, how a person uses it.

Personal ignorance, irresponsibility and denial is the issue... addiction is the effect of THAT, not the drug. Every drug has possible side effects, the infortunate few will suffer even from paracetamol, doesn't make it evil.

aldiwhore Sat 20-Apr-13 00:50:48

Oh good grief. I apologise sincerely for THAT!! ^ (it's late, I'm sober, I'd love a spliff)

sleeton Sat 20-Apr-13 01:04:48

HollyBerryBush. I've never taken an illegal substance and I judge those who do. I await someone to come along and tell me they are 73 and it eases their arthritis

What if they told you they were 33 and it eased their multiple sclerosis, Holly? Would you still judge?

aldiwhore Sat 20-Apr-13 01:25:37

I know plenty of over 60's who have found it's the cheapest and most effective option for their health issues... but anecdotal evidence is neither here nor there.

There has been extensive research into it's potential benefits, and well, you can google if you wish, I'm not going to list them, but their are FAR more then alcohol.

Unfortunately, as a medical drug, cannabis isn't profitable enough, taxable enough or controlable enough to permit. That doesn't make it invalid as a very efficient and excellent medicine.

Though that's not why I like it. (though the fact it gives me wonderful relief from my scholiosis induced pain is a brucey bonus).

Branleuse Sat 20-Apr-13 07:01:21

I'm ok with people judging me on it. I don't really even give those people a second thought. I hope they enjoy their outrage

PseudoBadger Sat 20-Apr-13 07:13:32

My childminder's next door neighbour often smokes it in the garden when the minded kids are in my CM's garden. She was doing it when I picked him up yesterday. Shows no respect for someone else's business and children/people in my opinion.

Chiggers Sat 20-Apr-13 09:52:59

One of my friends smokes it. I have no problem with it because she has struggled with excruciating back pain, which powerful prescription drugs and surgery hasn't even touched. She was a different person when she had her first puff. It was like she had never had that level of pain. She now manages her back pain with the old hedge (grass or bud) and paracetamol.

The transformation is astounding and I'm very rarely surprised.

Wasn't there a big uproar with Prince Charles years back? IIRC he was at an MS society function and he got talking to a sufferer in a wheelchair. I think she was telling him about the pain she was in most days and he'd asked her if she'd ever tried cannabis. Before you know it, there was loads of people saying they were angry that he'd have the audacity to suggest such a thing etc etc.

TBH, if I had to deal with people at a party, I'd rather deal with those who had smoked weed than someone who was drunk.

Cannabis as a medical tool, fine.
But you don't catch people taking morphine casually.

BuggerLumpsAnnoyed Sat 20-Apr-13 10:16:21

Im not depressed nor do i have trouble sleeping. Every now and again, i enjoy a spliff, or a glass of wine. My old friends know as most of them do/did. Most of my new friends don't know. Its never come up in conversation and i don't feel the need to shout about it to look 'cool'.

It is illegal but there are many laws out there that are wrong bedroom tax anyone?

wonderingsoul Sat 20-Apr-13 10:35:33

i used to do it , untill i hit 19 and got pregnant with ds1. i tried once more at 21 as a fair way smoke to my best friend who died. i found i no longer had the mental health for it. even if i had i wouldnt. i grew up. imo it something you do if your young or have no children.

the ex has pst and has been prescribed weed to h elp. (usa) it makes no sence to me to give weed to some one who is parinoied as it is and suffer crazy thoughts.

i have a friend who is 30. works non stop. two jobs a week. one in t he day and one at night, he has no responabiltys and likes the odd splif to wind down. that i have no problem with. hes hard working and it isnt hurting anyone else or putting any one else at risk. other situations i would judge.

BuggerLumpsAnnoyed Sat 20-Apr-13 10:39:42

Also i think its worth noting that the op didn't even know these people smoked weed. So i guess the drug hasn't obviously impacted their life.

BuggerLumpsAnnoyed - I see my best friend about three times a year.

It's difficult to know much about people's behaviour/lives through a phone call.

TenBitSailor Sat 20-Apr-13 11:48:55

I live in a country where homosexuality is illegal. Does that mean I ought to automatically find it 'distasteful'?

janey68 Sat 20-Apr-13 12:05:59

Not a very logical comparison as homosexual identity is not a choice.
Btw I think the ops use of the word distasteful is not the best choice. I personally feel sorry for people with a medical condition who need weed because other medications don't work. That's shit. People who use weed recreationally, well, it's on a par with people who need a fag of drink to relax and be sociable really. I certainly don't think it's any worse.

TenBitSailor Sat 20-Apr-13 12:07:02

But according to the legislators of the country in which I live, it is.

LaMaga Sat 20-Apr-13 12:15:10

I have never taken any kind of illegal drugs and I feel I can say YANBU.Weed stinks.

I think it looks sad unless you are a teenager trying to be a 'grown up'. Trying to be 'cool' should be left to teenagers same as people wearing clothes that makes them look 'young' and we are too polite to say it doesn't look good on them

On the other hand, as long as they don't do it in my presence, I don't care.

Disclaimer: I enjoyed gas and air at the hospital.

YANBU to dislike anything that is a choice behaviour.

However yabu to think that those feelings are anything other than personal to you.

My DH likes weed, he feels its part of his culture to some extent, and has it a few times a month, maybe more. I indulge every so often as do lots of our friends. We like it and enjoy ourselves, I can't see why its any different to alcohol?

We generally wouldn't make a roll with much or any tobacco.

Also all this stuff about the smell, I REALLY like it. I love smelling clothes after someone's smoked it so again its all subjective.

janey68 Sat 20-Apr-13 12:28:58

Oh yes- gas and air rocks grin

Xiaoxiong Sat 20-Apr-13 12:33:57

YANBU to think it is distasteful. I hate the smell of weed. I hate the smell of cigarettes too (don't get me started on cigars). And the awful next-day stale smell of someone when they've had too much to drink.

Nothing to do with the legality of any of these activities!!

janey68 Sat 20-Apr-13 12:34:13

I don't think it is much different to alcohol tig. In fact tbh I think many of us would agree that alcohol is a more worrying issue, because since the very sensible smoking ban, we don't all end up reeking of stale smoke; smoking is only a problem to the smoker and I guess their children as its impossible to eliminate from clothes completely. Binge drinking on the other hand can affect those around you, and even when it's not at binge level it's pretty tedious socially being with people who need a prop to relax

DeepRedBetty Sat 20-Apr-13 12:47:19

So often those who want to justify using cannabis and other illegal drugs recreationally bring out the 'alcohol is legal and far more dangerous' argument. Balls. They're all dangerous in different ways and I'd love to see alcohol much more severely controlled, it's ridiculously cheap in comparative terms.

I have no argument against the use of cannabis therapeutically, it is clearly very effective in some cases of chronic pain.

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differentnameforthis Sat 20-Apr-13 13:26:20

I have to be hmm at those who have said they smoked it in their youth & 'had a blast", almost like saying that they had a better time than those who didn't smoke it.

I had a blast too in my younger days, didn't need drugs to do it though.

Iwantmybed Sat 20-Apr-13 13:31:21

I enjoy a joint as much as a glass of wine. I love the herbal sweet smell too. However for me, its not a social thing to do, I wouldn't do it around / with friends so none know that I partake. Its a chillout thing that wears off within a few hours and doesn't give hangovers, unlike alcohol.
There are pearl clutchers all over to show their distaste over most things in life, yawn

janey68 Sat 20-Apr-13 13:39:18

I don't think anyone clutching pearls lol! To be fair, most of us are saying we've every sympathy for sick people who use it for pain relief, and that it's a non issue for others if informed adults choose to do it in their home. I think it's more the case that it's a bit tedious when some people seem to want to kid themselves it's something other than what it is, that's all. It's smoking. If you want to do it, fine, but tell it like it is! Reminds me of a lovely and slightly hippy friend who used to smoke rollies, the occasional joints and other herbal stuff and 'prided' himself on the fact that he wasn't smoking 'ordinary unnatural nasty cigarettes full of chemicals '!! Yes really- and totally without irony!!

reelingintheyears Sat 20-Apr-13 13:41:19

I am surprised you didn't know that she smokes alot of weed if she's you best friend,and i'm guessing you see quite alot of her.

IME,people who smoke alot of weed STINK of it.

OrangeFootedScrubfowl Sat 20-Apr-13 13:50:19

Smoking weed is lame. Coke however, is amazing.

PseudoBadger Sat 20-Apr-13 14:00:12

Oh I love a good can of coke.

OrangeFootedScrubfowl Sat 20-Apr-13 14:05:13

Cans are a bit common. I get those little bottles. They make me feel like I am on holiday.

maddening Sat 20-Apr-13 14:54:31

Personally imo if you put weed next to alcohol and looked at which should be illegal it would be alcahol every time.

maddening Sat 20-Apr-13 14:57:16

Good for you different - but the statement you picked on does not state that the people "had a blast as they smoked weed and they are surw that anyone who didn't smoke it didn't" reckon you're taking offence for the sake of it.

Crinkle77 Sat 20-Apr-13 15:57:22

I don't smoke it but it doesn't bother me if other people want to smoke it. It may be illegal but is it really any more harmful than tobacco or alcohol? These two legal drugs kill thousands every year. Alcohol is responsible for so much anti-social behaviour and violent crime etc... yet they bring in a fortune for the government so have not been banned.

RiffyWammal Sat 20-Apr-13 16:09:07

I have MS and initially tried weed to see how it might help my symptoms, but I can't pretend that's why I continue to do it because I don't at present have the kind of symptoms that cannabis is said to ease IYSWIM. I do it because I like it, simple as that. I don't have an awful lot of fun otherwise as I am stuck in the house, I don't like alcohol, and weed is something to look forward to doing at the weekend with DH. It's not hurting anyone else, certainly not if it comes from small home farms which mine is, and if it comes from larger operations staffed by exploited immigrants it's no worse than buying cheap sweatshop-manufactured clothes from Primark in my opinion.

I live in a detached house so the impact on my neighbours is not an issue. My kids are all old enough to not require supervision so that's not an issue either. The illegality of cannabis is a pain, and I would love to see it legalised, but it doesn't put me off as I am convinced that it's only illegal because it can't be controlled or taxed by the government. I certainly see alcohol as a far greater problem to individuals and society as a whole. I know it's not harmless health-wise, but believe life is to be enjoyed, and few enjoyable things come without any risk. Life is about balancing risks everyday.

I really don't care if other people find my cannabis use distasteful or immoral and if I examined their lives I would probably discover things that I would judge as undesirable and wouldn't do myself. But I wouldn't presume to tell them how to behave unless they were negatively affecting other people.

I agree it bloomin' stinks though. That's one thing I don't like about - that and how it makes me want to work my way through the fridge and food cupboards!

janey68 Sat 20-Apr-13 16:12:12

I agree that alcohol can be just as dangerous. To me, it's not really a matter of whether it's 'distasteful' because frankly most people don't give a shit what adults choose to do in their own home. It's the misconceptions and self denial which are worrying- eg people who think smoking weed without tobacco is non harmful, which is bollocks- cannabis smoke is harmful just as tobacco smoke is!

For a sick person, the benefits of weed may outweigh the harmful effects. But let's at least get facts straight. Smoking is harmful. Alcohol can be harmful too.

rainbowfeet Sat 20-Apr-13 16:26:08

I detest it too.. The only thing in defense of the old school smokers back in their younger days (15 plus years ago) is that the older grass type or resin was not like the skunk that is smoked now. Which is stronger & smells awful! I do not believe the argument however that it is less harmful than alcohol & it makes people docile & happy! In the I'd say 20 plus people I know that smoke it all but 1 or 2 have not gone on to try harder drugs or have some lasting mental health issue. It is also about the suppliers too & the chain of criminals that supply it, along that chain their are violent gangs! I know families that have teenage children & smoke it openly in front of them, I hate that, my daughter is 10 & thankfully doesn't know what it is & I'd rather she didn't! It makes me angry when people smoke it so openly in the street too!! hmm

PimpMyHippo Sat 20-Apr-13 16:39:31

I have no issue with it, and I really find it incomprehensible that alcohol and tobacco are legal when weed isn't (either they should all be legal, or all illegal!). I do feel a bit concerned for people who use it heavily to self-medicate for MH problems, purely because I've known quite a lot of people for whom this has ended very badly. Again though, the same can be said for alcohol - both can be dangerous if overused (although alcohol has far worse implications for physical health). I have never touched it myself, and never would, because I have MH problems already and I worry that any mind-altering substance would make them worse - this is also the reason I don't really drink. Disliking it purely because it's illegal seems a bit silly to me - at the end of the day, the law is just a set of arbitrary rules which frequently change. As someone's already mentioned, homosexuality used to be illegal, but now it's illegal to discriminate against someone because of their sexuality - a complete u-turn. If there was any sense behind drug laws, alcohol would be an illegal drug (given how harmful it can be) - but you don't have a problem with alcohol?

Remotecontrolduck Sat 20-Apr-13 16:49:49

I have never smoked anything, and very rarely drank alcohol at any point in my life (not a big fan of the taste). I've had a fantastic time without them and don't particularly understand why people do them to excess but each to their own.

If you're best friends with her and haven't actually noticed until now then I dont think it's really worth thinking about too much. YANBU though, it really does stink.

maddening Sat 20-Apr-13 18:05:52

Rainbow - I know 2 people who died of alcoholism and 1 person who has been sectioned due to long standing alcohol problems.

Also - surely it's the illegality that has meant your friends were in contact with people supplying harder drugs. Additionally they possibly had more permissive personalities in the first place as opposed to being driven to it by the evil weed?

Do you feel the same as people drinking in the street. Is it the illegality that upsets you? If it were legalised would you have the same issue?

RiffyWammal Sat 20-Apr-13 18:14:25

Hard drug users have almost all used alcohol and tobacco before they started using hard drugs, but those are never described as gateway drugs.

DidyouseeEthel Sat 20-Apr-13 21:26:32

I was a teacher for many years, of 16 to 19 year olds, and the (almost instant) effect of them taking skunk was heart breaking. Anxiety and panic attacks, loss of concentration, lowering of their A-level grades and university options etc.
What I don't understand is parents taking this drug - don't you realise that you are contributing to a culture/economy that is devastating the lives of thousands of our teenagers? Are you kidding yourselves that you're not? Is that how you're able to justify it?

rainbowfeet Sun 21-Apr-13 15:55:13

While I agree there are people with addictive personalities to whom alcohol could also be a problem & alcohol certainly isn't harmless! But when it is being supplied & purchased you are not funding some very dangerous & violent gangs, who are also into weapon supplying, prostitution, protection rackets, people trafficking etc.. I am simply using my experience to comment on a post. I know a few people my generation & older that have smoked cannabis simply as a social activity with no (seemingly) adverse problems but the majority of those enjoyed being high so much that cannabis wasn't enough for them & they dabbled in harder drugs. Which is a risky business as they are illegal & around that time especially with E's there was a danger of health problems.
What I don't like is the idea of smoking cannabis being normalized as it seems to be particularly in the area I live in.. I don't like having to come out of my flat & have to smell it in the communal lobby, (or more to the point have my kids smell it) I don't like having to walk past people smoking it openly in the street!! I can't speak for where other people live but this new strong skunk is producing a generation of bummed out, droopy eyed, zombie-fied young people who are not smoking it as a social high after work they are smoking it instead of work & fueling their depression & how down they are on life!! Don't shoot me down for this next comment but you only have to watch Jeremy Kyle to see this & how normalized its getting!! I don't want my daughter to think it is normal & acceptable!!!

aldiwhore Mon 22-Apr-13 21:11:59

didyouseeEthel As someone who likes a spliff occassionally, I can agree with you that taking anything that alters your state of mind whilst your brain is still developing is not a good idea.

I have no issue with alcohol, but strong alcohol is different, strong alcohol on young bodies is not good.

Skunk is not your regular garden variety of cannabis, it's bred to be strong, super strong, I don't like it.

There are plenty of horror stories about cannabis in general, but I know many many more people who've had no issues with it than I know those who have had major issues, I also know many many more people who've had issues with alcohol.

Smudging Mon 22-Apr-13 21:35:46

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Mother2many Tue 23-Apr-13 18:09:55

I am currently dealing with my son and his g/f that smoke it constantly. He is 23. I can guess they spend $400 a month on it. Their rent is $1,000. And they can't afford it. They have lost their internet/cell phones, etc...but manage to find money for drugs. Weed.

I also don't like the smell.

While standing in any line, grocery store, movie theatre, whatever, I can pick out who just finishing smoking a bunch of pot.

I know if I walk into a business and the person behind the counter just had some.

Here in Canada it is illegal. But found everywhere.

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