To be shocked that my new GP is extremely fat

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ItsRainingOutside Thu 11-Apr-13 23:57:10

I took my dd to our new lady GP this week as she had become very prone to bad acne breakouts prior to her period.

The doctor suggested she cut out sugar and carbohydrates from her diet as she was probably diabetic (didn't do any blood tests), and also suggested she try to lose weight as she would be prone to a weight problem later in life. DD is 12, 5'8" and weighs 11 stone and to be honest is as thin as a reed.

The doctor, however, was like a little rotund teletubbie. She was only young, around mid-30's, and my temptation was to tell her to take some of her own advice.

I don't think health professionals should be overweight, particularly in this day and age when obesity is frowned upon and there are lots of resources available to help you lose weight. I'm no twiggy myself but do try to stay a reasonable weight for my health and self-esteem.

HelloThisIsYoni Thu 11-Apr-13 23:58:17

Here, biscuit feed yourself up.

ohmentalnessisme Thu 11-Apr-13 23:59:07


OutragedFromLeeds Thu 11-Apr-13 23:59:53

It's a good try, but not on the same level as Brian and his wife.

I'm giving you 2/10.

Alibabaandthe40nappies Fri 12-Apr-13 00:00:34

Bullshit. No Dr is going to day 'oh your child is probably diabetic' and do nothing about it.

But 2/10 for having a go at GPs and fat people all in one post.

NeoMaxiZoomDweebie Fri 12-Apr-13 00:00:50

I'm a writer....I read shite all day long when I'm not working. grin Many hairdressers have bad hair...the cobblers child is the worst shod and all that.

Iteotwawki Fri 12-Apr-13 00:03:09

YABU. Why shouldn't a health professional be overweight? As long as it isn't affecting their ability to carry out their work in a professional and competent manor, what difference should their weight matter?

Body size is always more complex than "just eat less", there are all manner of underlying hormonal and genetic reasons why people are the size they are.

YABVU and coming across as rather unpleasant.

AnyoneforTurps Fri 12-Apr-13 00:03:55

YABU about her weight but the medical advice your DD got sounds totally nuts. Are you sure you understood the bit about diabetes correctly? Hormonal teenage acne is not a symptom of diabetes!

ComposHat Fri 12-Apr-13 00:04:12

Don't tell me, the GP had a goat too.

Iteotwawki Fri 12-Apr-13 00:04:32

Bugger. Did I just waste 10 minutes typing out a reply to a windup?

Damn me I'm gullible!

Pancakeflipper Fri 12-Apr-13 00:04:34

There a woman who is a trainer at our gym who is a size 18. No lycra for her... She's brilliant who designs the best programmes for us all.

Her weight gain is a result of the menopause. She swims each day and does an hour work out every other day and plays squash twice a week. Aside from the exercise demos she does several times a day.

LadyBeagleEyes Fri 12-Apr-13 00:05:17

One of my GP's is very overweight.
But as a Doctor she is brilliant, has time for everyone and was great listener when I suffered depression.
I wouldn't care if she stuffed her face with a cream cake or lit up a fag in front of me, as long as she did a good job.

DiscoDonkey Fri 12-Apr-13 00:05:36

Oh god yes some of the worst kept hair is on hairdressers!

TheChaoGoesMu Fri 12-Apr-13 00:08:09

Dont take her advice then, if you don't agree with it. She's telling you the facts as her job dictates her to do. No need to get personal about her body really, is there. hmm

Tenacity Fri 12-Apr-13 00:10:35

Wind up or not, I will bite anyhow...
Maybe the doctor has a medical condition. This is beside the point though. Your judgemental attitude is the issue here.

awkwardsis Fri 12-Apr-13 00:16:11

Nice try. But at those statistics your dd will not be thin as a reed. At 12 years old she is my height and half a stone heavier than me and I am feeling rotund right now. Ill help myself to a biscuit

KC225 Fri 12-Apr-13 00:17:37

I know what you mean. I once went to a beauty therapist and quite frankly I found her looks 'plain' (to be polite) she had some front calling herself a beauty therapist when she was never going to stop traffic

BeckyhasapainfreeYoni Fri 12-Apr-13 00:18:27


Best not give that to the GP

Did you mean to be so rude?

YoniWankEnobi Fri 12-Apr-13 00:22:20


Superene Fri 12-Apr-13 00:25:10

Quite apart from anything else the op said, I find it quite hard to picture anyone being 5'8", 11 stone and "thin as a reed". seeing as I am considerably taller, weigh less and would never be termed thin. And am in my mid 30s (which is hardly young).

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WorraLorraYonis Fri 12-Apr-13 00:32:22

I couldn't give a shiny shit if my GP is overweight

I don't want to fuck him, I just want his medical expertise.

LuisGarcia Fri 12-Apr-13 00:33:26

I love you people

LadyBeagleEyes Fri 12-Apr-13 00:33:31

I wondered about that weight ratio, 11 stone is a lot isn't it?

I was that height and weight around that age - i was a size 14 and 'flabby' not thin confused

What was i doing wrong sad

Mitchy1nge Fri 12-Apr-13 00:38:56

I like that she is a 'lady gp' as if is some startlingly rare thing for a gp to have a vagina, it reminds me of when the times couldn't cope with women (or a woman) becoming law lords and wrote about 'my lady lord justice Hale' grin

5madthings Fri 12-Apr-13 00:41:54

11stone is 155lb? On the NHS bmi calculator that gives a bmi of 23.4 so perfectly fine.

But the GPS weight is irrelevant and the advice sounds bizarre.

thornrose Fri 12-Apr-13 00:43:17

My 13yo is 5'5 and weighs about 7 stone, she is a healthy height and weight, I doubt your dd is "thin as a reed" confused

grin at 'thin as a reed' 5'8" and 11 stone daughter. I was a chunky size 14 at that weight and I'm 2" taller.

My DS (16) is 6'2" and 11 stone. He IS as 'thin as a reed'. hmm

5madthings Fri 12-Apr-13 00:45:58

Depending on her muscle as she may well look slim, she isn't overweight at that height and weight.

LuisGarcia Fri 12-Apr-13 00:59:47

Ok I love you people less now that you are obsessing over the daughter weight thing

Dominodonkey Fri 12-Apr-13 01:00:02

She is overweight at 12. No child should weigh 11 stone. Adult BMI and child's are not the same.

Although it is true that weights look different due to different body shape. At 11 stone and 5ft 7 I look fine. (so it's a shame I currently weigh 2 stone more than that!)

5madthings Fri 12-Apr-13 01:00:59

If she HSS or is going through puberty that weight is fine.

5madthings Fri 12-Apr-13 01:08:51

If she has or is going through puberty.

I used a child's bmi calculator.

5madthings Fri 12-Apr-13 01:14:52

If she hasn't gone through puberty she would be overweight, there is often an increase of weight at the onset of puberty. Her bmi of 23 puts her at the higher end of normal for her age/height/weight but not overweight. So a lot depends on her build ie is she sporty and has a high muscle percentage.

Anyway it all Sundsvall's cks tbh, a gp wouldn't say she seems diabetic and not do any tests etc.

5madthings Fri 12-Apr-13 01:15:07

All sounds bollocks tbh

ItsRainingOutside Fri 12-Apr-13 01:24:11

Interesting comments. It's not a wind-up. She also gave her medication to stop her bleeding when I'd already told her she wasn't bleeding. Maybe she was too busy thinking about her next cream cake to focus on what I was saying grin

thornrose Fri 12-Apr-13 01:30:30

I'm struggling here, you try to stay a reasonable weight for my health and self-esteem but have a dd who seems to be an unhealthy weight and you are criticising a GP for being overweight.

You then say GP suggests dd is diabetic but doesn't test confused

And the latest is offering her meds to stop bleeding when you just went in about acne.

It sounds like a wind up.

HullDud Fri 12-Apr-13 01:39:47

Maybe she was too busy thinking about her next cream cake to focus on what I was saying Give over OP and stop chatting shite. My mum took it personally that her kids were fat too. People will be just as scathing about your dd too if you don't get your head out of your arse. hmm

TheChaoGoesMu Fri 12-Apr-13 01:39:47

Maybe she was too busy thinking about her next cream cake to focus on what I was saying

Hmm. Take the cake and shove it in your cakehole.


manicinsomniac Fri 12-Apr-13 02:18:28

As offensive and ridiculous your post is OP, I am actually loving the description 'rotund tellytubby' grin

Also, I think you have a point when it comes to certain health professionals. I have no problem with a GP being overweight. However, I have been in psychiatric hospitals for anorexia and once has a nutritionist who was seriously obese. I could never concentrate on what she was saying or take her advice on board because I couldn't stop focussing on her fat and obsessing over the fact that if I did as she said I'd look like her. Yes, I know the issue was in my head not on her body but a nutritionist who specialises in the treatment of eating disorders probably got that reaction from a high percentage of her patients and I doubt she was as effective at her job as a healthy but slim person would have been.

ripsishere Fri 12-Apr-13 04:21:34

My best GP was a man who was as fat as he was tall. he was the kindest man I've met. Not only kind, a phenomenally good GP.
I agree, nobody suggests someone may be diabetic and doesn't follow it up.

Bartlebee Fri 12-Apr-13 04:26:57

5ft 8 and 11 stone could not possibly be 'as thin as a reed'.

DonDrapersAltrEgoBigglesDraper Fri 12-Apr-13 04:29:38

I am 5'9" and about 10.5 stone. I am most definitely not 'thin as a reed'. grin Man, I wish.

Lottashakingoinon Fri 12-Apr-13 06:47:12

Maybe she was too busy thinking about her next cream cake to focus on what I was saying

You might have had me until this^

Nice try, mildly amusing even, but not to be taken seriously imho!

FanjoForTheMammaries Fri 12-Apr-13 06:58:51

She may have said she could be prone to insulin resistance..maybe she was thinking PCOS rather than diabetes. It can cause the acne.

And can caise weight gain later through poor response to carbs, so reducing them is sensible.

So..I doubt she was calling your DD fat. Read about PCOS.

Your snarky comnents about her weight are out of order

FanjoForTheMammaries Fri 12-Apr-13 06:59:58

And the cream cake one makes you sound like an utter bitch

trinity0097 Fri 12-Apr-13 07:09:00

A BMI of 23.4 for a child is considered overweight. 91st percentile.

Bunbaker Fri 12-Apr-13 07:09:09

Actually I can see where the OP is coming from. To be told to lose weight by an overweight person brings to mind a sentence with the words pot, kettle and black in it.

The fact that the doctor was female is irrelevant.

ILikeBirds Fri 12-Apr-13 07:13:33

I'm 5'4", weigh 10 stone 10 and I'm currently wearing size 8 trousers. I can believe that the op's daughter can be slim with those statistics.

I like birds are your legs made of stone? A those stats I'm a 12-14. How can you be a size 8? I don't get it. Do you have a disproportionately big top half? Giant boobs?

LiegeAndLief Fri 12-Apr-13 07:38:50

I am 34, 5'8 and weigh 10 stone. I am not as thin as a reed. I suppose your daughter might have a lot of muscle but I am struggling to believe she is really skinny.

Gorjuss Fri 12-Apr-13 07:40:03

I would find it hard to take dietary advice from someone overweight.

YoniRanger Fri 12-Apr-13 07:50:55

Horrible as it is I do think health professionals who advise about weight management undermine themselves when they are overweight.

I remember being given a lecture about my terrible weight problem (BMI of about 27, so only just over) by a nurse who was probably 20st and just trying not to snort.

It's not pleasant or nice by no one enjoys hypocrisy.

TheNebulousBoojum Fri 12-Apr-13 07:55:23

I'm a teacher, I'm fat but my brain is a lean, keen thinking machine.
Is that OK, OP?

EugenesAxe Fri 12-Apr-13 08:04:25

I'm with Liege here. No doctor would lie about something like this; I think you must be blinkered. I would have an inward ironic laugh at getting advice from someone who was overweight themselves but as many people have said, you don't know why she is.

I was 'normal' at 11 stone being 5' 9". I was thin when I weighed about 9 stone and three quarters but even then not fat free.

FanjoForTheMammaries Fri 12-Apr-13 08:10:45

I dont think she was calling her fat though

<talks to self>

sassytheFIRST Fri 12-Apr-13 08:16:18

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FanjoForTheMammaries Fri 12-Apr-13 08:20:41

I dont think OP is a troll..she has just misunderstood ..the GP was prob hinting at PCOS and insulin resistance.

maddening Fri 12-Apr-13 08:27:21

The drs weight is sweet fa to do with you - you however come accross as a judgemental bitch.

EeyoreIsh Fri 12-Apr-13 08:34:10

I was about that height when I was 12. And I weighed 50kg. I was slim but not reed thin.

I'm now 3 inches taller, weigh 11 1/2 kilos and i am a size 14.

so I'm sorry, but your dd probably could do with not putting any extra weight on.

Having acne is awful though. Worth trying a change in diet.

hackmum Fri 12-Apr-13 08:36:04

You know what, OP? I'd take your DD to a different GP. Either you've misunderstood what the GP said or she is doing something a bit odd - if she actually thinks your daughter may be diabetic, surely she'd give her a blood test? And did she come up with any treatment suggestions for the acne? It all sounds a bit peculiar.

DeskPlanner Fri 12-Apr-13 08:59:32

Funny. Not. Have a biscuit . Don't eat it though, you wouldn't want to end up like your made up gp.

Ezza1 Fri 12-Apr-13 09:04:25

Our local smoking cessation counsellor smokes 20 a day. She openly discusses that and has a 100% success rate. She is great.

innermuddle Fri 12-Apr-13 09:15:03

I'm confused. Your concern is that your gp has given poor advice. Probably Diabetic? Without a blood test? Seems unlikely, my GP might say this could indicate x, let me run some tests. This should be your concern, the quality if advice. Seek a second opinion!

The comment about your gp's weight is a bit mean, there could be many reasons she is not slim looking, not least of all early pregnancy or young baby at home. Or even a busy life working & keeping up with current medical developments leading to eating a poorer diet?

As for your daughter's height and weight, I'm the same height & weight and would be hard pushed to honestly describe myself ssh slim, certainly not thin- but of course I have had 5 children, my youngest is 3 months so possibly if I was not wobbly & had more muscle mass I might pass for slim. Therefore it is possible 5.8 and 11 stone could be slim. Thin I find harder to believe.

thebody Fri 12-Apr-13 09:19:45

The doctor said she was 'probably diabetic' and did nothing? A 12 year old! Diabetes is a serious condition that needs careful management. Uncontrolled diabetes can lead to complications including death.

Get away with you.

TheNebulousBoojum Fri 12-Apr-13 09:38:52

'I'm now 3 inches taller, weigh 11 1/2 kilos and i am a size 14.'

Good God, really EeyoreIsh?

echt Fri 12-Apr-13 09:54:09

I'm now wondering how all of this fits in with the expectation that teachers, who get paid waaaaay less than GPs, are expected to set an example both on and off the job.

LessMissAbs Fri 12-Apr-13 09:55:11

11 stone at age 12? My friend is 5 feet 8 and 9 stones and slim but not "thin". Must be a wind up!

EeyoreIsh Fri 12-Apr-13 10:04:11

Why the query nebulous?

EeyoreIsh Fri 12-Apr-13 10:08:48

Ah, what I really meant to say was 11 1/2 stone! Or 72kg in metric speak.

does that make more sense? !

There might be 11 1/2 kg of cake inside me grin

quietlysuggests Fri 12-Apr-13 10:14:13

Because as we all know DOCTOR means a man doesn't it?
Therefore you simply must put LADY in front of the title or else we might get confused and think "Wait a minute, she said Doctor but now shes saying SHE so clearly its a nurse"

OP if you are over 80 then ignore the above, the elderly get a free pass on this.

I was 5'7 and 11stone (not actually very thin) and my overweight GP told me to lose weight! I was horrified as I didn't think I was fat, just not slim. Having DS now, I WISH I was 11 stone again!!!

I was pretty miffed to be fair, when she told me to lose weight, being big herself. More because she was very judgy about it. Practice what you preach scenario maybe.

Having said that I've read alot about the fattist type propeganda over recent years. Now I realise that I'm much healthier being 3st heavier. I never used to exercise but used to smoke loads. Quitting smoking and pregnancy caused me to gain weight but I now exercise and run 3/4 a week and eat well because I want to encourage my DS too aswell and dp is a health freak and makes me against my will

I do understand what your saying, but I'd take it with a pinch of salt smile

TSSDNCOP Fri 12-Apr-13 10:23:02

If I were concerned my GP was providing bad advice for my child I would ask for an appt with another GP.

I wouldn't waste my time caning the GP on an Internet forum even if they are dead right about your attitude

Just to add I was horrified because I didn't think I needed to lose weight, not because I was annoyed at what she was saying because she was big!

specialsubject Fri 12-Apr-13 10:25:31

whatever, 5 foot 8 and 11 stone is acceptable weight, and depending on how the girl is built, she could well be slim.

get real. Models are sick freaks, nothing to aspire to.

crashdoll Fri 12-Apr-13 10:51:42

Can imagine the OP leaving the surgery and saying "Ignore that tellytubby lady doctor, darling. She doesn't know what she's talking about, she was probably too busy thinking about her next cream cake. Now, shall we pop to Gregg's for a little healthy snack, sweetie?"

GobShizz Fri 12-Apr-13 11:32:24

YABU and a bitch, to boot. I also suspect you are on the wind-up. No doctor in this day and age would tell you to cut your child's sugar as they "might be diabetic".

everlong Fri 12-Apr-13 11:36:02

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Fenton Fri 12-Apr-13 11:37:03

And after that last post OP, you still say you're not on a wind up?


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VanitasVanitatum Fri 12-Apr-13 11:53:53

Why is everyone so certain that if you are a certain size you must the same weight as their daughter/sister/person they know who us the same size? It honestly doesn't work like that. I'm ten and a half stone, five seven and a size eight. I am very heavy for my size. We are not all constructed the same!

beenhereayear Fri 12-Apr-13 12:11:15

Would be interested in your height / weight statistics OP?


yaimee Fri 12-Apr-13 12:22:19

completely right op.
She shouldn't be allowed to work as a gp, she should be doing an appropriate job for a fat person, like working in McDonald's.
Actually, she shouldn't be allowed to work at all, there's nothing more off putting than looking at a fatty when you're trying to enjoy your chips.
We all know that fat people are lazy and worthless anyway, so maybe she should just be on the dole like the rest of them. She wouldn't be able to afford as much cake then either, so it might do her a favour!
Doesn't your gps surgery know that being fat makes years at medical school and all of her work experience worthless.
I'd change practices if I were you!

Latest research shows that obesity is much less of a factor in health that physical activity and fitness.

So, if you are thin but you don't exercise, you are MORE likely to die early than if you are fat but take regular exercise.

Having said that, the NHS is one of the unhealthiest workforces in the country, and the majority of GPs don't even know the recommended minimum levels of physical activity for people, so therefore don't give good advice.

It's a bit like smoking in the 60s - most GPs smoked so they didn't advise patients to give up smoking. Most GPs don't do enough exercise, so they don't advise patients to do more exercise.

FYI - MINIMUM recommendations for exercise are:

One hour per day for under 16s.

30 minutes five times a week for over 16s

This is moderate exercise (i.e. enough to make you sweat, get hot or breathless).

Sermon over wink

almapudden Fri 12-Apr-13 12:49:27

I am 5'11" and weigh about 10 and a half stone. I am slender and toned (do a lot of exercise) but by no means as thin as a reed. I wish!

OP's daughter may not be enormous but I would be surprised if she could be described as thin.

ComposHat Fri 12-Apr-13 12:55:20

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crashdoll Fri 12-Apr-13 13:35:35

I'm not sure why people are comparing adults' height and weight because this is a child. If she exists. A child of 12 should not weigh the same as an adult. Enter the height and weight into the NHS children's BMI calculator, she is quite overweight. Although I'm sure someone will be along to tell me BMI is a total crock of shit and the child is a rugby player but it's good to get a rough idea.

JaquelineHyde Fri 12-Apr-13 13:44:09

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ItsRainingOutside Fri 12-Apr-13 14:36:13

Dont you just hate vulgarity, there isn't any need for it. Looks like the DM reports of this site are right. Shame as it's a really good resource for those genuine people wanting genuine advice and feedback.

5madthings Fri 12-Apr-13 14:39:21

Oh fgs if you had posted saying you were concerned re the Drs advice about your dd you would have got support and answers but you started a thread to slag off a Dr because she was fat! You have been called on it.

You have also received advice re your dd's weight, it could just be puberty but she is at the top range of weight for her height/age therefore maybe its something you should be keeping an eye on.

Shame as it's a really good resource for those genuine people wanting genuine advice and feedback.

So are you saying you are not genuine and not wanting genuine advice and feedback? hmm

TheVermiciousKnid Fri 12-Apr-13 14:43:06

Now there's a surprise...

Flobbadobs Fri 12-Apr-13 14:45:40

Meh, my old GP smoked 40 a day but was still qualified to sign me up to the stop smoking course.
If you don't agree with what she told you, get a second opinion. Her weight doesn't come into it, you don't forfeit a qualification because you aren't a perfect size 10.

MintyyAeroEgg Fri 12-Apr-13 14:46:48

I am amazed at your dd's statistics too. My 12 year old dd is the second tallest girl in her class. She is 5'3" and weighs 7 stone. She is not a skinny child.

YoniGirlInTheWorld Fri 12-Apr-13 14:47:30

Dont you just hate vulgarity, there isn't any need for it. You are being rhetorical right? You can't post such a scathing OP then follow it up with a bitchy comment about her eating habits. You really shouldn't dish up a serving you cannot stomach yourself. hmm

Fenton Fri 12-Apr-13 15:01:35

I'm confused about what you actually wanted here then? support?

You want to be unkind about someone's weight, take the piss about her eating habits and you want a parenting site to support you in that?

And just because one person calls you a cunt for it you support the DM's views?

You are definitely in the wrong place.

ILikeBirds Fri 12-Apr-13 15:09:28

No wonder young girls are struggling with body image if people are saying a 5'8" 12 year old should be assessed using a chart designed for a child. How many children do you know who are that tall and haven't gone through puberty?

ShowOfHands Fri 12-Apr-13 15:16:55

Our gp is disgustingly overweight. She even has her picture online. I'd be embarrassed to have my picture taken let alone publish it on the web.

supergreenuk Fri 12-Apr-13 15:18:16

Is it just me or is 11 stone over weight for a 5ft 8 frame? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Fenton Fri 12-Apr-13 15:19:57

Showy grin

I Love it, this is the new flounce, if you dont like the answers you get on here you can flounce shouting `the dm was right about you witches` ha ha ha grin

5madthings Fri 12-Apr-13 15:21:54

show of hands grin

And whether or not the girl is overweight depends, if she has gone through puberty then she is prob fine.

Bmi for that height/weight gives you a bmi of 23.4

cumfy Fri 12-Apr-13 15:33:25

Is diabetic or may be prone to diabetes ?

Reed. grin grin

OttilieKnackered Fri 12-Apr-13 15:33:36

A 5' 8" 12 year old girl is virtually certain to have gone through puberty, so should be judged as an adult. I have been my adult height (5'1") since I was 11.

MrsBethel Fri 12-Apr-13 17:08:16

Three points:

1) GPs are paid for their ability to give good advice. They are not paid for their discipline in being able to follow it themselves.

2) 5' 8'' and 11 stone is the upper end of normal. Not thin, but a perfectly healthy weight.

3) Exercise is really good for borderline diabetics, and could prevent a lifetime of jabs.

That is all.

yaimee Fri 12-Apr-13 17:41:40

I've just realised what this is. It's a dm journo trying to prokoke a reaction.
It a dm 3 in 1, fat people, the NHS and nasty mumsnet!

RiffyWammal Fri 12-Apr-13 19:06:56

5'8", 11 stone and 'thin as a reed'? Maybe OP means Oliver Reed.

I wish I was only 11 stone though sad

Bunbaker Fri 12-Apr-13 19:12:20

"A 5' 8" 12 year old girl is virtually certain to have gone through puberty, so should be judged as an adult. I have been my adult height (5'1") since I was 11."

I think you are the exception. At most girls have not gone through puberty.

ILikeBirds Fri 12-Apr-13 20:23:21

11 stone 1lb @ 5 foot 6

11 stone @ 5 foot 8 can certainly be slim

bigkidsdidit Fri 12-Apr-13 20:29:40

I'm 5 foot 7 and when I was 10 and a half stone I looked so scrawny people at work were worried about me and tried to feed me up. You could count all my chest bones. So she might be thin at 11 stone.

Bunbaker Fri 12-Apr-13 21:09:39

Just reread my post. At 12 most girls have not gone through puberty.

ILikeBirds Fri 12-Apr-13 21:14:51

Nobody was saying all 12 year olds were likely to have gone through puberty. They were saying that a 12 year old girl who is 5 foot 8 is highly likely to have gone through puberty.

crashdoll Fri 12-Apr-13 21:19:59

I knew someone would come along and claim BMI is wrong. I highly doubt OP's 12 year old CHILD is a triathlete but I'll eat my words if she is. She is clincally overweight for her height and age.

cumfy Fri 12-Apr-13 21:23:20

5'4" 12 stone 2 hmm from the same flickr photostream.

5madthings Fri 12-Apr-13 21:30:24

crash doll if she hasn't gone through puberty but given her height I would assume she has and then you would calculate her bmi as an adult and no she isn't overweight.

cardibach Fri 12-Apr-13 21:30:59

I am 5' 10" and if I were to ever get down to 11 and a half stone I would be slim. I can believe those given by the OP, though I disbelieve the rest of it.
my DD started her periods at 10 and has not grown since she was 11. This is not uncommon, and if the OP's DD is 5' 8" (an inch taller than my DD, then she as probably gone through puberty and should be judged as an adult. I also don't take the phrase 'thin as a reed' to mean skinny, just slender.

ILikeBirds Fri 12-Apr-13 21:32:17

5 foot 8 and 11 stone gives a BMI of 23, what's 'wrong' about that?

A 12 year old that is that height and post puberty can be assessed as an adult would be and it's absurd to claim that those stats = clinically overweight.

crashdoll Fri 12-Apr-13 21:40:47

In an NHS clinic, they would use an under 18s BMI calculator. Argue with me all you like but I am certain of this.

ILikeBirds Fri 12-Apr-13 21:57:15

Just because it's the NHS doesn't mean it cannot be absurd.

Blindingobvs Fri 12-Apr-13 22:02:57


Sorry, wrong thread.

crashdoll Fri 12-Apr-13 22:09:13

It's absurd that anyone could think a 12 year old is considered a fully grown adult even if she has been through puberty.

5madthings Fri 12-Apr-13 22:14:25

If she has gone through puberty and stopped growing ie height wise then she is her adult height, and her weight is fine for that adult height. That's the point.

crashdoll Fri 12-Apr-13 22:18:30

Adult bodies are not the same as 12 year old bodies even if that 12 year has finished growing. Anyway, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

if you post like a bitch, you'll get called a bitch...

P.S OP, did you just join the site, then post the most goady thing you could think of, so you'd get replies like the above, so you could justify dismissing the site?

If so I think it's safe to say no one will miss you hmm

maddening Fri 12-Apr-13 22:53:03

My feedback was genuine - your post was offensive (like your choice of "news"paper) .

And if you hate vulgarity then you must suffer self loathing.

Fine to complain about treatment you feel to be incorrect but your post was aimed at digging fun at someone's appearance - not pleasant reading.

D0oinMeCleanin Fri 12-Apr-13 22:55:16

I'm 5ft8 and when I weighed 11 stone I was over weight. 10st9 is my maximum before I tip into the over weight category.

shellshock7 Fri 12-Apr-13 23:08:59

I'm 5ft8 and 11st and slim!

I lost a stone for my wedding and was far too thin, put it straight back on afterwards....heavy bones I always say grin

ItsRainingOutside Sun 14-Apr-13 02:30:17

The post isn't about how tall/heavy dd is, it's about the fact that unhealthy (overweight) 'health' professionals giving advice to other people about their weight isn't right.

Same as people in the health profession should not be allowed to smoke. Good on the NHS for changing their policies so that nobody is able to smoke anywhere on NHS premises. Might stop those people in wheelchairs and pyjamas holding onto their drip in one hand with a fag in the other. Disgusting.

maddening Sun 14-Apr-13 06:41:59

Crikey they can't impart knowledge which they are qualified to give due to weight.

What weight does ones opinion cease to matter or indeed become offensive?

I hate those that ridicule other's appearances - disgusting.

yaimee Sun 14-Apr-13 08:47:34

What's disgusting is your hate filled and judgemental opinions.
I think that those are much more inappropriate than anyone smoking or a fat gp.
I wonder what qualifies you to make these judgements.
Either you're a troll or a nasty and spiteful person. I sincerely hope it's the former, otherwise you'll be passing your vile attitude on to real life children, which would be tragic for them.

StuffezLaYoni Sun 14-Apr-13 08:54:24

It's a health care professional's job to provide treatment and care, as well as making sure people are fully informed on how to keep themselves healthy and safe. If my doctor can treat me when needed and give me advice I need about contraception, nutrition, etc. I couldn't give a shiny shite what they look like.
And actual LOL about "people in health professions shouldn't be allowed to smoke." What should be done - random spot checks at home?
You sound horrible.

McNewPants2013 Sun 14-Apr-13 09:51:50

What was you expecting, I will never sit behind my computer screen (or in RL) slagging off a doctor for his/ her weight.

Ok, I agree whole heartedly that the OP is talking shite and her attitude towards her GP is awful but I will point out that I'm 5'1 I am currently 10st 6 after having DS3, I have giant boobies and an hour glass shape, I'm a size 8. A bit of flab post birth but no way am I overweight. ( Although my BMI says I am )

Bunbaker Sun 14-Apr-13 10:15:27

I met a GP at a social function last week. She was very chatty and was giving me dietary advice about DD. She was also very obese and at first I admit that I did wonder why she wasn't following her own advice. It transpired that she had her own health issues that caused her weight problems.

I simply wanted to say that it is easy to judge when you don't have the full story. Although I still think the OP has a point in questioning why a GP might talk about her daughter's weight issues when she clearly has her own weight issues to deal with. Just the same as someone holding a fag in their hand telling other people not to smoke.

Do as I say and not as I do.

Bunbaker Sun 14-Apr-13 10:15:44

I shall jump off the fence now.

mirry2 Sun 14-Apr-13 10:23:06

itsraining biscuit I would change your GP as you clearly have a problem with her

Shagmundfreud Sun 14-Apr-13 14:17:51

According to the NHS weight checker, a 12 year old who is 5ft 8inches and weighs 11 stone is in the 95th centile of weight for that height, so would be classed as 'overweight'. The doctor is - in theory - correct.

They've done a study showing 80% of the parents of overweight children fail to recognise that their children are overweight. Perhaps you also fall into this category OP?

As for your doctor - well, it's a bit disempowering for someone being told they ought to lose weight that this message is delivered by someone who has clearly not been able to do this themselves. Particularly as doctors are seen as people who are extremely able, intelligent and self-disciplined.

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