To be shocked at Game of Thrones - it's very rude!

(233 Posts)
bettycocker Wed 10-Apr-13 11:25:47

I just got a copy of series 1 of Game of Thrones from a mate.

It's very rude. It's like Lord of the Rings, only with tits and incest. I had heard about it and thought DS 14 would enjoy something like that. After watching it myself, I think he would enjoy it a little too much.

I think it's fab, but I haven't seen any other TV series that feature so much full frontal nudity. It even has willies!

AIBU to be totally shocked at how rude it is?

Mimstar Wed 10-Apr-13 11:27:24

grin YANBU. We are half way through Series 2, it just gets worse! I do think it is very, very good but I could do with a little less incest! Are you enjoying it otherwise?

infamouspoo Wed 10-Apr-13 11:27:24

we keep a boobage count. But there is plot. Its possible you may have to read the books to spot it however...

SorrelForbes Wed 10-Apr-13 11:28:41

There wasn't one single boob on show in Season 3, episode 2. DH was most disappointed.

edwardsmum11 Wed 10-Apr-13 11:28:57

Lol I was shocked and i read some very rude boks.

CajaDeLaMemoria Wed 10-Apr-13 11:29:37

Yeah, I wouldn't show a 14-year-old it.

It's very adult. It's a great series (the books are amazing too!) but there is a lot of sex and nudity.

My DP recommended his parents watched it, without thinking of the nudity. They made 15 minutes and were horrified. They treat us like we admit to watching hardcore porn now...mortifying.

Fargo86 Wed 10-Apr-13 11:30:09

The books are even more rude.

expatinscotland Wed 10-Apr-13 11:30:30

There are just as many cocks. It's equal opportunity. Love it!

bettycocker Wed 10-Apr-13 11:31:05

I'm loving it Mimstar! grin But it gets worse? The incest is a bit icky, but it's a good story. My DM has the books and said they were brilliant.

infamouspoo, I'm surprised you can keep up, There's more boobage than I could shake a stick at.

edwardsmum11 Wed 10-Apr-13 11:31:29

Not read the books, might now... lol

Sorrel, i know she wasnt in s3e2 anyway, but the actress who plays Dany has a new no boob clause in her contract...

Empress77 Wed 10-Apr-13 11:32:40

Theres also a lot of horrific horrific deaths! I think its great although do have to avert my eyes a lot.

Mimstar Wed 10-Apr-13 11:32:58

I actually find the violence harder to cope with than all the graphic sex. I mean, do we need to see a horse having it's head chopped off?

bettycocker Wed 10-Apr-13 11:33:18

Sorrel, i know she wasnt in s3e2 anyway, but the actress who plays Dany has a new no boob clause in her contract...

I won't tell DP, he might be a bit sad about that!

expatinscotland Wed 10-Apr-13 11:33:40

'Sorrel, i know she wasnt in s3e2 anyway, but the actress who plays Dany has a new no boob clause in her contract...'

Guess they'll have a costume change, because in Mereen the women wear their left breast out.

Mimstar Wed 10-Apr-13 11:34:11

Oh yes betty it does get worse! Just when you think you've seen it all grin

Who is everyones favourite character? I love Daenerys!

bettycocker Wed 10-Apr-13 11:34:17

There is quite a bit of violence, but as an avid Walking Dead fan I've become desensitised.

Fargo86 Wed 10-Apr-13 11:36:06

It's an 18 on DVD so probably not suitable for a 14 year old. He'd probably be embarassed watching it with you anyway.

CajaDeLaMemoria Wed 10-Apr-13 11:37:20

The violence is horrid. I wince, and have to look away...I'm a proper wimp.

bettycocker Wed 10-Apr-13 11:37:25

My favourite character is Tyrion Lannister, but I'm new to Game of Thrones.

I'm just starting book2 now. Seriously, anyone who hasn't read the books must read them. They make it so much easier to keep track of all the characters! grin

SorrelForbes Wed 10-Apr-13 11:39:36

Yep, the torture thing in Ep2 was a bit grim.

Tyrion is my favourite too (he's even better in the books).

I'm not sure that DH has a favourite, but he's probably going to be a bit (mock) miffed at any no-boobage malarky!

Mimstar Wed 10-Apr-13 11:40:17

Oh yes I do love Tyrion grin Blood hate Jamie Lannister though!

Anothing Walking Dead fan here and gory horror films too
very little of the violence makes me flinch

Quite a few faves, Daenerys, Tyrion, Arya, Jon Snow...

SorrelForbes Wed 10-Apr-13 11:40:41

I've read all the books which is driving DH mad. I keep nodding sagely when certain things happen on screen and drop the odd hint about various impending sticky ends.


CarpeVinum Wed 10-Apr-13 11:47:30

but as an avid Walking Dead fan I've become desensitised


I watched the finale of the last series without resorting to my cushion to hide behind once.

<Proud emoticon>

Bear in mind I spent the entire pilot behind the cushion with much whimpering.

I watched game of thrones and don't remember a single willy. Wonder if the Italians censored the rude bits.

bettycocker Wed 10-Apr-13 11:56:17


Walking Dead is full of suspense. There was one episode this series where I actually screamed. blush

I can't remember what happened and I don't think it was particularly violent, but it just took me by surprise. That's all part of the appeal.

DP gave me a right old ripping over it.

bettycocker Wed 10-Apr-13 11:57:19

Also, sorry that you don't remember any willies in Game of Thrones CarpeVinum. Maybe you just got distracted by all the boobies?

TheNebulousBoojum Wed 10-Apr-13 12:00:46

That's why it is an 18 certificate.
It is very well done, I'm getting series 2 for my birthday. From DS. smile

ShowOfHands Wed 10-Apr-13 12:05:50

Tyrion Lannister is brill but Petyr Baelish is my favourite though this is more from the books than the series.

Joffrey is well cast too. He's despicable.

DH's grandad watches it too and I did gently question him on what it was he enjoyed and he waxed lyrical about the politics and the battles and then said he didn't like the sex/nudity and fastforwarded bits of it.

I seem to remember from series 1 that I was rather annoyed by Daenerys' wedding night. It looks a lot like khal drogo rapes her but in the book, it's consensual. The actual act anyway. The marriage is obviously political. Actually, that reminds me, Viserys was well cast too.

Oblomov Wed 10-Apr-13 12:07:14

Willies? Don't remember. Must go back and watch series 1. Am enjoying 2.

ThatVikRinA22 Wed 10-Apr-13 12:10:55

i have just watched the entire thing in 2 days....loved it! it is a bit racy isnt it....but well done i think.

the only gory bits that got me were to do with the horses....

also a walking dead fan....
and a dexter fan

i seem to have a bit of a blood thirsty streak...either that i its just bloody good telly.

LisasCat Wed 10-Apr-13 12:15:23

You can't remove the incest, that's integral to the plot. For centuries the Targarians married brother to sister, ending in a bonkers mad king, so the new lot don't approve, hence the secrecy about Jaime and Cersei. But there is a very deep love there, which you come to understand when you get to see their delightful daddy.

So the person upthread who said they'd prefer less incest, that's like saying you'd prefer fewer zombies in Walking Dead! It's fine to wish there was less nudity and sex, I think those could be shown less graphically, but you can't take away the 'family action'.

sashh Wed 10-Apr-13 12:19:30

I mean, do we need to see a horse having it's head chopped off?

Well after Sean Bean I think a horse is a bit mild.

bettycocker Wed 10-Apr-13 12:19:43

I was rather annoyed by Daenerys' wedding night. It looks a lot like khal drogo rapes her

That's the only bit where I thought they had taken it too far. Other than that, I've really enjoyed it so far, and I'm going to watch the first episode of series 2 tonight. grin

I love Arya and I hope she doesn't get killed off.

Fargo86 Wed 10-Apr-13 12:29:53

I'm wondering if the TV series will make it to the end of the books. Some of the characters may need to be recast, Bran and Anya are supposed to be young children but the actors are growing up too fast, Bran's voice has broken and Anya isn't a little girl anymore, yet only a few months are supposed to have passed in storyline terms.

CajaDeLaMemoria Wed 10-Apr-13 12:30:08

It was supposed to appear like rape. I read a book about how they transformed the books into the TV series, and there's a big part on how they talked to George about changing it, and then the actors, and then decided that it went better that way. They didn't feel they could convey the scene the way it was, and thought rape made it more realistic, and her more likeable.

I remember because I ranted at DP about how wrong that was blush

Fargo86 Wed 10-Apr-13 12:32:21

I thought maybe the worst sexual bit was when Littlefinger had to wipe sperm from the mouth from one of his girls before sending her to her next 'client'. I was surprised to see that on mainstream TV.

squoosh Wed 10-Apr-13 12:33:46

I would very much like to do lots of filthy things to Bronn please.

I might have some energy leftover for Jon Snow too.

But mainly Bronn.

Squoosh, you probably noticed, but it took me til I was told last week. blush

CarpeVinum Wed 10-Apr-13 12:38:10

that's like saying you'd prefer fewer zombies in Walking Dead!


CarpeVinum Wed 10-Apr-13 12:41:23

some energy leftover for Jon Snow

He is one lovely lump of loveliness, isn't he?

I could just lick him all over.

But only in an era of modern plumbing and hot and cold running water.

Which is also my Daryl line in the sand.

And wothisface from The Lord of the Rings. The king one in love with Areosmith's daughter's elfself.

But the white haired elf, the one that went pirate and disappointing looking as a result, now he was yummy, and so clean! I'd lick him even in the context from which he came.

squoosh Wed 10-Apr-13 12:44:11

BeyondTheLimits I know!!!!!!!!

I never thought the day would come when I would enjoy the filthiest fantasies about Jerome from Robson & Jerome grin

It's like waking up one day with an overwhelming lust for Aled Jones. I just can't help myself. He's turned out so yummy.

squoosh Wed 10-Apr-13 12:46:23

CarpeVinum I saw the actor who plays Jon Snow being interviewed and it didn't work for me at all seeing him as his 21st century self.

I like the fur collared cape and all the brooding about 'they murdered ma father'. I'm willing to risk a bit of ye olde worlde lack of sanitation in order to have him in character.

WhoPaintedTheLion Wed 10-Apr-13 12:48:39

Jerome? Really? The hard as nails sell sword is Jerome?? Ffs.

DH and I had read the books and recommended the series to my dad when it first aired. We sat there watching it all together. Together ffs. With my dad . God only knows what he thought of us.

My mum and dad watch Spartacus blood and sand, I'm not too concerned what they'd make of GoT!

squoosh Wed 10-Apr-13 12:56:10

My parents adored Rome and I'm pretty sure that was much filthier.

BegoniaBampot Wed 10-Apr-13 13:03:10

me and husband are hooked but as much cocks as female nudity? I really don't think so. It's nude women coming out of your ears left right and center.

bettycocker Wed 10-Apr-13 13:03:25

Ah, Jon Snow. I could do some very rude things to him!

DragonMamma Wed 10-Apr-13 13:03:34

I love GoT - it's definitely gone less racier though. Or I'm taking less notice?

Oh and I thought the finale of WD was awful this season, last seasons was much better. This wasn't remotely cliffhanger-y. Meh.

I'm patiently waiting for a new series of Sons of Anarchy now...hurry up.

And Rome. They even have the box sets.

Shh, havent seen last three episodes of WD yet they refused to download

DragonMamma Wed 10-Apr-13 13:05:48

You didn't miss much, it went nowhere really.

BegoniaBampot Wed 10-Apr-13 13:06:38

and i do find the female nudity rather gratuitious. strange as the women characters are quite strong and interesting. but saying that I find Ian Glen's character ridiculously sexy for some reason more than any other male character.

squoosh Wed 10-Apr-13 13:10:14

Oh yes, I love Ian Glen too. His voice is so alluring.

Jamie Lannister is hot too aside from the incesty murderous thing. We all have character flaws though I suppose.

The one who leaves my loins cold though is Rob Stark. I find him a bit dull.

YouTheCat Wed 10-Apr-13 13:10:51

If the female characters were just there for a bit of 'fluff' I'd find the nudity a bit wrong but they aren't - it's a fantastic series with great, strong female characters.

My favourite is Arya. I love Tyrian as well.

I wish I had Sky but will just have to wait for the box set.

squoosh Wed 10-Apr-13 13:11:45

Tyrion gets the best lines, love him and Bronn together.

OxfordBags Wed 10-Apr-13 13:12:47

Sorrel, am about to watch ep2 tonight - please reassure me that there's at least some doggy-style shagging?! wink

Me and Dh sing Unchained Melody every time Jerome comes on screen. It's like an affliction. We also like shouting out the names of UK tv shows that various actors have been in: Casualty! Hollyoaks! Skins! And so on.

Yeah, we know how to live it up chez Bags.

Kit Harington (Jon Snow) - I would. In fact, I'm rubbing my legs and muttering "ooooh, young man!" just thinking about him right now.

OzmaofOz Wed 10-Apr-13 13:13:06

I have to admit I cried a little in the finale of TWD grin my hormone levels have never gone back to normal since having Dts.
I have become an AA fan since seeing him naked, he is a bit whit whooo. Don't like the character for obvious reasons.

OxfordBags Wed 10-Apr-13 13:14:02

PS There is confirmed nekkid Jon Snow action later in Series 3!

squoosh Wed 10-Apr-13 13:15:22


AvrilPoisson Wed 10-Apr-13 13:17:26

i too think the incest thing is ridiculous- it's practically every ruling family FFs!
There are some horrifying characters in it, but I think that's part of its brilliance.
Thankfully they frequently get their just desserts.

squoosh Wed 10-Apr-13 13:18:19

I saw Joffrey in Dublin a few months ago. I managed not to slap his chops.

StickEmWithThePointyEnd Wed 10-Apr-13 13:18:53

Alfie Allen's is the only naked willy we see.

For some reason I'm attracted to Sandor Clegane/the Hound. Not normally my type. I can see the attraction in Bronn too.

CarpeVinum Wed 10-Apr-13 13:19:40

in order to have him in character.

Oh I want him character. But after a long hot shower with (unscented) soap.

And that cape getting Frontlined grin

MordecaiAndRigby Wed 10-Apr-13 13:20:09

I don't even blink at the nudity now. I did cringe when they were torturing poor Lily Allen's little brother in s3ep2. <shudders>

MordecaiAndRigby Wed 10-Apr-13 13:20:39

Her poor little brother I should say, not poor her. I doubt she felt it really...

neriberi Wed 10-Apr-13 13:21:44

The books are pretty rude shock TBH I didn't notice the boobs in the books because the story and the characters are so good, especially Tyrion and Arya.

But I do wish some of the ladies they've used for the TV series were as good as they are in the books, Melisandre is a bit of a let down for me and I wish Cersei was more beautiful even though the actress who play's her is amazing

MordecaiAndRigby Wed 10-Apr-13 13:22:01

And I'd sooo have my own little naked party with Bronn and Tyrion grin

YouTheCat Wed 10-Apr-13 13:22:51

Joffrey was in one of the Batman films - there's a meme out there or something. grin

WorriedMummy73 Wed 10-Apr-13 13:22:55

I have read all the books (waaaaay before the TV show - love fantasy as a rule) and have a real love/hate relationship with the tv show.

LOVE how well some of the casting has been carried out. Me and DM always talked about who they would get to play Tyrion and Peter Dinkledge could not be better - the man is perfection and I luffs him. Jaime is spot on, Brienne too. The kids are all very good, esp. Joffrey - what a little monster. Whoever booked Maergery Tyrell needs shooting though - Ann effing Boleyn from The Tudors (which me and DM refused to watch due to it being a shagfest). Maybe I've read the books all wrong, but Maergery doesn't come across as that conniving and, well, slutty, to me. Offering a three-way with her own brother??? WTAF?

HATE how George R R Martin has essentially sold-out to HBO and gone 'tits? Yeah, put loads in! Willies? Yeah, loads of those too! Sexual relationships between characters who didn't have them in the books? Why the hell not! You're paying me enough!'. But that's HBO for you.

This I will say though, to those of you watching the show who haven't read the books (and you should, you really, really should): don't get attached to ANYONE! Sean Bean proved that to be true to series 1. And it doesn't get any better. George R R Martin kills off main characters left, right and center. There are some major shocks ahead.

And Jaime? You may hate him now, but I think he has the biggest personal journey of any character in the show! wink

Ineedmorepatience Wed 10-Apr-13 13:23:25

I am reading Storm of Swords atm, between that and MN I am struggling to fit anything else in grin

I love lots of the characters, some of them like Joffrey for their sheer vileness. Tyrion is really clever and Arya is so brave, I really hope she makes it!

I might have to go and read another chapter nowgrin

bettycocker Wed 10-Apr-13 13:24:03

Naked Jon Snow? I'll be chucking my panties granny knickers at the TV!

Fargo86 Wed 10-Apr-13 13:25:33

There is just as much sexual content in the books as in the series. How as George Martin 'sold out'?

YouTheCat Wed 10-Apr-13 13:27:55
WorriedMummy73 Wed 10-Apr-13 13:28:46

Fargo, he's allowed them to change the stories around, add in sexual relationships that weren't there and basically (at times) allow the nudity and sex to get ahead of the story-lines themselves. I think the stories are fantastic without the need for the constant, in your face, 'look, boobs!' going on most weeks. It's tiresome. But that's HBO - look at The Tudors? Historical accuracy, my bottom!

I do still love Game of Thrones though, love seeing the world and the characters brought to life.

OxfordBags Wed 10-Apr-13 13:28:59

Avril, the incest aspect is sadly quite representative of how ruling families in RL have inter-married for centuries. At one stage, several hundred years ago, the Spanish Royal family almost interbred themselves out of existence! Our law that allow cousins to marry exists so that our Royal family can inter-marry: Queen Victoria and Albert were cousins, for example.

shrimponastick Wed 10-Apr-13 13:29:55

Ooh Jon Snoooooooooow....

squoosh Wed 10-Apr-13 13:30:12

Awwww baby Joffrey is so adorable there.

YouTheCat Wed 10-Apr-13 13:31:10

Just a sweet little lad. grin

squoosh Wed 10-Apr-13 13:32:01

I resisted watching GOT for so long as I'm generally not into the fantsy genre. But it's just so good. Managed to watch series 1 in a couple of days and got a bit ragey when I realised I'd watched the last episode.

KarmaBitch Wed 10-Apr-13 13:37:15

I've been debating weather to watch GOT. It's been getting rave reviews. Apart from the nakedness is the storyline any good?

WorriedMummy73 Wed 10-Apr-13 13:38:33

Karma - the storyline is fantastic! But PLEASE read the books first - they don't get much better. Great casting (for the most part) and just so well done. Watch it, watch it, watch it!

WorriedMummy73 Wed 10-Apr-13 13:40:17

Sorry to question this, but what's the deal with everyone fancying Jon Snow? He has ONE facial expression - miserable. And he looks beyond feminine! I don't get it. In fact, given the abundance of male leads I'm shocked that I don't find even one of the cast remotely attractive. Tyrion, at a push, maybe...

twinkbat Wed 10-Apr-13 13:40:22

Worriedmummy what relationships do you mean? Ok it's ages since I read books 1 & 2 but I actually remember cersei shagging around a lot more (and others but they might be spoilery)

I get what you mean re Margery, but I always actually viewed her as George's version of Anne what with the manipulation etc. hbo have sexed it up a bit and made things like renly being gay way more in your face but then that's hbo. Plus he toned down a lot in writing it as rob, dany etc were about 15 in the books.

But then I'm a dirty minded cow so maybe I picked up more.

KarmaBitch Wed 10-Apr-13 13:42:19

WorriedMummy, will order the first book on my kindle now - cheers!

WorriedMummy73 Wed 10-Apr-13 13:44:33

Twink - I think it was the Maergery/Renly/Loras thing that really did it for me. I've re-read the books recently and at no point did she offer herself up like that. But then, books are open to personal interpretation, so maybe I've mis-read some of it. I just think it's HBO doing their usual 'better get the nudity in for the lads' bit. My youngest DB is a big fan of Rome and Game of Thrones - all for the naked women (although he won't admit it).

And you make a good point about the age of the younger characters in the books - Sansa definitely looks a lot older than around 15 in series 3. And there's no way on this earth that Robb looks around 17 - more like 27. Same for Jon Snow.

squoosh Wed 10-Apr-13 13:44:47

WorriedMummy Yes I've noticed that Jon Snow's 'range' is somewhat, ummmmm, limited. It's either 'They killed ma fatha' or 'I'm a bast'd'. But the tumbling curls/melancholy eyes/fur cloak ratio just does something to me. I certainly wouldn't mind keeping him warm on that wall.

But as I said previsouly my one true GOT love is Bronn. He would most definitely know exactly what to do.

WorriedMummy73 Wed 10-Apr-13 13:45:22

Karma - delighted to hear that! Let me know what you think. Much as I love the show, I love the books even more.

WorriedMummy73 Wed 10-Apr-13 13:47:14

I'm still getting over Bronn being Jerome Flynn! Before this he was the dog's voice in Tommy Zoom on CBeebies - bit of a jump!

And nope, don't see the Jon Snow thing. Maybe it's because I'm aware of how old he's meant to be. Eeeewwwwwww.

squoosh Wed 10-Apr-13 13:49:41

I didn't realise he was meant to be 17 is Series 1! I feel a bit sullied now.

twinkbat Wed 10-Apr-13 13:52:24

Yeah that Margery/renly/loras thing was ripped totally from mists of avalon. But then he was never a pov character so who knows. I think she was capable of saying it. Anything to cement her as queen iykwim

WorriedMummy73 Wed 10-Apr-13 13:54:09

Squoosh - I think he's around 17 in series 3! so that would make him around 15 in series 1? I may have to check my books, but I'm fairly certain the youngsters are a lot younger than they actually look in the show...

But they may have tampered with that in order to add in the eye candy and make it more appealing to women. Otherwise, we'd have Tree Fu Tom playing Robb confused

WorriedMummy73 Wed 10-Apr-13 13:55:09

Twink - just made me go blush hmm shock etc, etc

SorrelForbes Wed 10-Apr-13 13:55:29

OxfordBags No, it's very sparse on doggy-style action!

We always have a little snigger at poor old Jerome. He's bloody hot though.

Poor Alfie Allen being tortured - he's never looked better. Oh dear, linked with my Ralph Fiennes/Amon Geoth confession on another thread, I'm not looking good. blush

In order of hotness then:

Alfie Allen
Ian Glenn

WorriedMummy73 Wed 10-Apr-13 13:59:55

Am I the only one who thinks that Alfie Allen was perfect for Theon simply because I can't stand either of them? It made it so much easier to loathe Theon when I feel the same about the 'actor'.

twinkbat Wed 10-Apr-13 14:01:21

Jon is 15, as is dany in book one as Robert has been on the throne 15 years... And they are the 'eldest'. Arya is like 11. George in hindsight wished he'd made them older so that's what hbo did.

ladyjadie Wed 10-Apr-13 14:07:10

'Jon Snooow' (always read that in Ygritte's voice) [sp?]

I never ever thought GoT would be my thing.. then my good friend made me watch season one.. I LOVE it! shortly after that we got together and he is now my DP (connected??!)

I would love to read the books but do you think seeing the TV show first has ruined it?

WorriedMummy73 Wed 10-Apr-13 14:16:16

Ladyjadie - definitely read the books! You know there's only a contract for four series of Game of Thrones, right? So they may only make the first four books! You'd never know how it ends...

Although, George R R Martin takes so long to write each book that there's a good chance he'll pop his clogs before he finishes the damned series himself. Happened with my other favourite (Robert Jordan) and his Wheel of Time series. Someone else has had to finish the series for him confused

SpanishLady Wed 10-Apr-13 14:16:35

Im another one who loved ROME and watch Spartacus now - its all very gory and sexual but heigh ho the bizarre Australian accents in Spartacus add light relief!

Just got season 1 of game of thrones yesterday - game on!!!

ladyjadie Wed 10-Apr-13 14:25:46

Worriedmummy WHAT?!? Will they not renew it (the show)? *gets on Amazon shock

I am quite liking Margaery's way of manipulating Joffrey into liking her..

WorriedMummy73 Wed 10-Apr-13 14:31:15

Ladyjadie - they've signed a four season contract with George R R Martin. What this probably means is that he'll demand a ridiculously high payout for the rest of them, they'll wrangle over it for ages, then agree to his demands.

The problems will come if/when they can't get all the cast back together because they're all off making other things due to their rising popularity. I see that becoming a reality with the younger cast members. And Peter Dinklage, naturally, because he's so fecking brilliant!

squoosh Wed 10-Apr-13 14:37:09

Peter Dinklage is in the next X Men film I believe. It's inevitable that lots of them will be eager to leave sooner or later as more tempting offers come their way.

Xiaoxiong Wed 10-Apr-13 14:38:36

I love the fact that someone with your nickname is getting het up about willies on screen OP grin

I've read all the books but I actually think the HBO series is better. They've excised all the tiresome traipsing around the Trident and the riverlands and random peasants getting murdered in unpleasant ways and random bandits riding along and characters being introduced and then 5 pages later once you've dutifully read their extensive descriptions and lineages...

Ser Ranister Castellan was mounted on a grey destrier with one eye and a sigil of an azure bend across quartered pink and gold stripes with sixteen ladybugs embroidered on his doublet and his hair was gold showing his connection with the Lannisters and his eyes were blue like his mother who was a Tully twice removed on her father's side and cousin to the so and sos from the Storm Lords and he was page to Ser wotsit and liege lord to Ser whozit and he was riding from Riverrun to the Trident and...

<squish splash bloody blood blood and detailed gory descriptions>

Oh, he's dead.


Jon Snow? I.don't get it, not my type at all. In fact the only male character who has had some appeal for me is Karl Drogo and now he's dead, sniff.
Margery is a cunning little vixen, all butter won't melt but she has thought long and hard as her position. If she wins the respect and admiration of the common folk of Kings Landing that means that Circie and even Joffry would have to.think long and hard if they wanted to move against her publicly.

YouTheCat Wed 10-Apr-13 14:43:08

I really want to read the books (dp has all of them) but I find his sentence structure really long-winded and difficult for my very mildly dyslexic brain to follow.

I may try again, as I have 3 more days holiday to go.

Ooh I have already read all the book, well the ones he's written. I'm definitely getting the box set!

WorriedMummy73 Wed 10-Apr-13 14:47:15

Right. If Mr Martin does indeed keel over before finishing the books, I'm willing to take over (for squillions of pounds, obvs) and will write them to HBO standards to cut out the middle man.

'Lord Someone-or-Other turns up. Drops his pants. Young and skinny bird gets tits out and writhes all over him. This goes on for five minutes.

Jon Sner is in a mood. Female audience swoons.

Tyrion insults people.

Arya is very brave, but keeps clothes on due to being underage.

Sansa gets older. May get baps out. Depends on contrac.

Girl who plays Daeny no longer takes top off. All male audience go in a grump. Maergery Tyrell takes HER top off. All male audience cheer profusely.

Some political discussion.



The end.'

I'll take my cheque now please.

expatinscotland Wed 10-Apr-13 14:51:34

How did he sell out? The books are full of fucking, tits, cocks, arses, whores, rapes, sex, sex, sex! But Margery doesn't get anything out and she's over the age of consent. Sansa does, but then puts it away, um, later.

Um - so where can I watch it then - am virgin blush

virgin media that is grin

squoosh Wed 10-Apr-13 14:52:50

Karl Drogo seemed like a sensitive and thoughtful lover. Oh no wait........that's no right.........

AvrilPoisson Wed 10-Apr-13 14:53:07

Daenerys was 13 in the books wasn't she? When she 'married' khal drogo?

expatinscotland Wed 10-Apr-13 14:56:48

Yes, she was 13 when she married him but 14 at the time she became pregnant.

Both Jon and Robb were about the same age at the beginning: 15.

Sansa is a month off 13 at around the middle of Book 3 and I'm saying nowt else grin.

YouTheCat Wed 10-Apr-13 14:57:10

There's an article in next week's Radiotimes about the British cast members.

expatinscotland Wed 10-Apr-13 14:57:20

And Drogo definitely did not rape her on their wedding night.

ladyjadie Wed 10-Apr-13 14:59:19

Ohh Maggie I totally forgot about Khal Drogo! YES, graaarr. I was very disappointed he died..

I think I just really like Jon Snow's cape/furry shoulder pads considered making my own

Am I the only one who thought Theon's torture was completely deserved? Whiny sneaky little git.

expatinscotland Wed 10-Apr-13 15:00:03

Theon Turncloak certainly got his in the books.

WorriedMummy73 Wed 10-Apr-13 15:01:36

Finding it very difficult not to drop spoilers in here!

But, yes to Expat - Theon certainly DOES get his comeuppance!

Xiaoxiong Wed 10-Apr-13 15:01:57

expat you're absolutely right. The HBO series, if anything, plays down some of the stuff in the book IMO.

I was a little embarrassed on the train once reading a rather <ahem> graphic description of Tyrion with Shae. Thank god it was on a kindle app for iphone so v hard to see, but I did get a little twitchy about the person next to me looking over and seeing the word COCK appearing at least three or four times in the first few lines of text. And there are only 6 lines of text showing on screen on an iphone kindle.

ladyjadie Wed 10-Apr-13 15:02:28

grin Worried - Jon Sner hahahah

expatinscotland Wed 10-Apr-13 15:02:57

He's really not a nice person in the books and a child murderer.

bettycocker Wed 10-Apr-13 15:03:34

I have to stop reading this thread now. Too many spoilers!

expatinscotland Wed 10-Apr-13 15:04:28

Oh, there's loads of cock in the books. It's one of his fav words. Mine, too grin.

ladyjadie Wed 10-Apr-13 15:05:12

Please no book spoilers!

I already got terrible one stupidly clicking on a memesite (still trying to bleach brain)

expatinscotland Wed 10-Apr-13 15:05:34

IIRC, Jon might be slightly older than Robb by a few months, but they were both around 15 at the start.

WorriedMummy73 Wed 10-Apr-13 15:07:37

Hmmmmm. Maybe it's just that I don't notice it so much in the books because I've become so used to it now. Strange. It doesn't bother me in the books. All the torture, on the other hand...

And some of the monstrous men and their behaviour towards some of the female characters. An example that has already come up in the show is when Joffrey had Sansa beaten by the Kingsguard. Still makes me shudder...

WorriedMummy73 Wed 10-Apr-13 15:10:07

I promise to give no more spoilers. I've done that to myself! Turned to the last page of a James Patterson book to see how many pages it was, the text went all down the page, found out who the murderer was...

AAAAAAAND. I read an interview with Kiefer Sutherland before series 2 of 24 started. Was halfway through box set of series 1 at the time. Interviewer; 'so, your character's wife died at the end of series 1...'. Me: 'fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu...!!!'

Startail Wed 10-Apr-13 15:10:35

DD read the book when she was 14 (it walked from the sixth form only shelves, she's not the best behaved librarian).

She wants the videos, I said no.

They are an 18 and while, I suspect they won't shock her at all, her younger sister is not watching them.

CousinRachel Wed 10-Apr-13 15:11:58

Xiaoxionq my keyboard is now teasplattered I ove it.

Have nearly finished the 5th book and agree all the sex is part of it, any extra bits shown probably make up for other sexual scenes that have been omitted. It can't all be fitted in <ahem>

Much prefer Robb Stark to Jon Snow, Bronn too though grin and Khal Drogo and a bit of Jaime Lannister...<goes for a liedown>

CousinRachel Wed 10-Apr-13 15:12:12

'love' it

ladyjadie Wed 10-Apr-13 15:13:44

Ahahah Worried poor you. When I clicked on this site it was just a GIF of like seven characters flashing up with DEAD! DEAD! DEAD! UNDEAD! under each of them. Definitely a fuuuuuu moment!

And also I hated the bit when Tyrion had the two whores sent to Joffrey to 'lighten him up'. Probably the only bit I found actually disturbing.

WorriedMummy73 Wed 10-Apr-13 15:14:44

Crikey I've carried my books everywhere with me and read them in M&S cafe at times! No wonder there were old dears fainting everywhere...

ladyjadie Wed 10-Apr-13 15:15:06

*snort at 'fitted in'

WorriedMummy73 Wed 10-Apr-13 15:15:44

Because I do love a nice slice of carrot cake and vanilla latte with my attempted rape/torture...

Xiaoxiong Wed 10-Apr-13 15:15:48

worried the fucking really doesn't bother me at all and in fact I rather enjoy it because it's so much more pleasant than reading about a) maiming, b) torture or c) being cold/wet/muddy. When the action moved to hot and sandy Dorne for a bit it was like going on a beach holiday.

riskit4abiskit Wed 10-Apr-13 16:06:03

God I love this show! I would actually die of excitement if I saw a jon show Willy!

Tyrion is also amazing, just like I imagined.

Wish we saw more of the white walkers, they're so scary, but it's all about the political shenanigans and boobage.

Can't wait for the next book!

bettycocker Wed 10-Apr-13 16:10:24

I'd quite like to see Tyrion's willy and a Jon Snow gay scene. grin

Emjay85 Wed 10-Apr-13 16:17:32

If you think the TV series is explicit you should try reading the books grin

YouTheCat Wed 10-Apr-13 16:17:50

Okay. I have started book 1. Up to Arya's first chapter. It is rather better than I thought it would be. grin

WorriedMummy73 Wed 10-Apr-13 16:20:15

Such brilliant books. I love how they can still shock me. I remember when I first read about Jaime casually shoving Bran of the window ledge. I actually carried on into the next chapter before I went 'hang on, wtf just happened?'. Had to go back and read it again.

Yep, there are some bigger shocks a-coming in the show...

YouTheCat Wed 10-Apr-13 16:40:08

I've just read that bit.

Lovecat Wed 10-Apr-13 17:24:33

YY WorriedMummy re. not getting too attached to anyone - my cousin's partner got a part in it without having ever read or heard of the books - when he found out my brother had them all to date (hurry up Martin!) he was anxiously quizzing him about his character's fate, as everyone around him was dying like flies and he wanted to know if he'd soon be out of a job or not!

I don't think we've seen his cock onscreen but we may have seen his arse...

squoosh Wed 10-Apr-13 17:26:41

Oh LoveCat who is it? Puh-lease tell me!

(wonders if it's Bronn)

(wipes drool)

Lovecat Wed 10-Apr-13 17:29:02

Sadly not grin

He's quite a minor character, was barely in season 2 (but apparently is back in S3)


YouTheCat Wed 10-Apr-13 17:29:24

Need to know who. grin

Well Tyrion and Snow are on their way to the Wall now and I'm having a break for coffee.

YouTheCat Wed 10-Apr-13 17:29:59

Ooh I remember him. Excellent!

squoosh Wed 10-Apr-13 17:32:17

How cool, I remember him! He started out a bit rough but then turned quite nice under the guidance of shiny headed Jon Snow.

Empress77 Wed 10-Apr-13 17:42:09

Best thing about GoT is the many awesome ones Id love to steal for my baby when it comes.....Arya/Sansa/Tyrion/Bran......George Martin defo had good naming skills.....but dh thinks itll be too GoT-y......oh the dilemmas!

Bue Wed 10-Apr-13 17:43:09

I've simultaneously started the book and the show (the novel is filling in a lot of details I had missed!). The feminist in me was so shock at the general treatment of the women in the first two episodes that I had to check with my sister if it was worth continuing! She assured me the women become kick ass so I am sticking with it!

Xiaoxiong Wed 10-Apr-13 18:23:29

Well, many of the women do become kick-ass. But there's still a hell of a lot of other awful stuff directed towards women. And sometimes they only become kick-ass after something really awful is done to them sad

infamouspoo Wed 10-Apr-13 18:45:20

'They've excised all the tiresome traipsing around the Trident and the riverlands and random peasants getting murdered in unpleasant ways and random bandits riding along and characters being introduced and then 5 pages later once you've dutifully read their extensive descriptions and lineages...'

Snorted tea out of my nose at that grin

bettycocker Wed 10-Apr-13 19:00:19

I was also shocked at hearing the word "cunt". You don't hear that much on TV shows. grin

kungfupannda Wed 10-Apr-13 19:23:19

I had no idea how rude this was when I got the first series on DVD - I'd just heard people saying it was brilliant.

5 minutes in and I was shock

I read someone saying that every time they need the audience to concentrate on something important, they have a main character explain it in a speech, while two minor characters go at it in the background, just to make sure everyone is paying attention. grin

It is brilliant though. I rather like Bronn too. Although I heard that Burn Gorman of Torchwood fame is supposed to be in season 3 or 4 and I may have to drop Bronn like a slightly grubby hot potato in favour of some nice, smouldery Owen-Harper-ness.

I heard that they're contracted for 4 seasons but that those will cover more than 4 books.

MrsJaqenHgar Wed 10-Apr-13 19:32:23

Betty, one of my favourite lines is 'there's no cure for being a cunt' uttered by the wonderful Bronn.

The sex and violence doesn't bother me. So much so that we allowed baby DD to be an extra in Season 3. She will, however, be about 30 before we allow her to watch the series and see her own performance grin

kungfupannda Wed 10-Apr-13 19:34:30

My colleague knew I'd been watching it and she asked me if I thought it would be suitable for her 9 year-old son to watch - I hadn't really gone into detail about the level of sex and violence!

I think my shriek of "NO! By no means, NOOOOOOO!" could be heard at the other end of the county.

KarmaBitch Wed 10-Apr-13 19:38:47

I've just downloaded the first book on to my kindle. Looking forward to reading later.

I think I will take the advice to read it first before I tune in. smile

squoosh Wed 10-Apr-13 19:39:41


mrsdinklage Wed 10-Apr-13 20:01:36

no spoilers here - but if my dh gets any action with Jon Snow I will chop them both up and feed them to the wolves grin

TeacupTempest Wed 10-Apr-13 20:03:24

I am on book 4.

Haven't dared open the box set of the first season yet incase it doesn't live up to the book!

BeyondIsBloodOfTheDragon Wed 10-Apr-13 20:03:59

I felt a name change was in order grin

BeyondIsBloodOfTheDragon Wed 10-Apr-13 20:05:03

I read the entire wiki entries of every character, too impatient to wait til I'd finished the books!

TeacupTempest Wed 10-Apr-13 20:07:47

I love the books so much. I can barely remember what my family look like!

BeyondIsBloodOfTheDragon Wed 10-Apr-13 20:09:22

Kindle app on my ipad...
Swoosh mumsnet
Swoosh GoT
Swoosh facebook
Ad infinitum

"I read someone saying that every time they need the audience to concentrate on something important, they have a main character explain it in a speech, while two minor characters go at it in the background, just to make sure everyone is paying attention."

Yes, some of the US commenters have taken to calling it (s)exposition grin

mrsmalcolmreynolds Wed 10-Apr-13 20:19:37

I sort of see what people mean about the treatment of women, but isn't it actually fairly realistic given the social systems of the society being portrayed? Lack of equality of opportunity is quite an imoortant theme - see eg. Sansa's worry in s1 about possibly only having daughters, Arya wanting swordfighting lessons, Dany being used as a bargaining chip by her brother etc. etc. If anything the main female characters, whonare mostlymfairlymhigh society, get a better deal than women in general, eg. that chieftain north of wall committing incest with all his daughters. Not actually a million miles removed from the reality of life for women in Europe say 850 yrs ago? Leaving aside the extensive incest...

So if you're going for that as a setting, the treatment of women is not unrealistic, so not gratuitous? Although that then begs the more general question of whether it would be better for an author to stray further from our own past reality and try for a pre-hitech setting with more social equality.

All of which is a bit deep. Personally not that enchanted by any of the totty I have to say. Aiden Gillen has long been a fave but as Littlefingernis looking a bit worn. Others all too blond, too pretty or a bit long in the tooth, although I'm awaiting the arrival of Ciaran Hinds with interest (no Sky so just started s2 on dvd).

mrsmalcolmreynolds Wed 10-Apr-13 20:20:42

Sorry for random m's - really not good with a tablet keyboard...

JeanBodel Wed 10-Apr-13 20:27:02

I too fervently admire Ser Jorah 'friendzone' Mormont and Bronn son of 'You wouldn't know him'.

Have you seen these? There are three pages of them if you can work out how to click through.

Game of Thrones

<No idea what tumblr is myself>

WorriedMummy73 Wed 10-Apr-13 21:09:43

Pmsl at 'Ser Jorah 'friendzone' Mormont!

Is it wrong that I'm just as excited about this thread and finding others who luffs GoT as I am about the books/show???

anyone else think Jonh Snow is actually Eddard's nephew? ie daughter of Robert Baratheon and Lyanna Stark? Theory from a friend of mine. I just don't beleive Eddard would be so un-noble!!

Speaking of sexyness/nuddyness, have anyone seen the tudors? Jesus, that makes GOT seem like Pride and Predujice...

WorriedMummy73 Wed 10-Apr-13 21:21:12

Nope, Jon is definitely Eddard's. It's not to do with him being un-noble, but he was just married and went off to war. At that early point in the marriage they didn't love each other and he had a thing with Jon's Mother.

Can you not see how much Jon looks like Sean Bean? Snort.

OzmaofOz Wed 10-Apr-13 21:25:12

Yes I also think Jon is Neds nephew, I think he found Jon at the tower of joy with Lyanna. I would actually be a bit disappointed if he wasn't a targ / stark, I thought that he was the song of ice and fire...that it is about I'm finding out who he I say I would be really disappointed if he does turn out to be Ned and Wyllas son

OzmaofOz Wed 10-Apr-13 21:25:43

Him not I'm - DYAC

gobbledegook1 Wed 10-Apr-13 21:26:17

Spartacus anyone!?

Boring fact: The dog in Game of Thrones that is killed by Ned Stark is ralated to my woofie.

OzmaofOz Wed 10-Apr-13 21:30:02

Is Spartacus any good ? Haven't seen it at all. Wouldn't mind getting it to a good series as there is bugger all on telly these days. [moany]

WildlingPrincess Wed 10-Apr-13 21:30:47

That's a massively popular theory davey and one I hope is true grin

WildlingPrincess Wed 10-Apr-13 21:31:09

Well, the Lyanna bit at least.

gobbledegook1 Wed 10-Apr-13 21:46:35

The first series of sparticus was very good but 10x ruder than Game of Thrones. It went down hill after that and I couldn't take to the new actor for Sparticus.

WorriedMummy73 Wed 10-Apr-13 21:48:22

Didn't the original Spartacus actor die of cancer? Very sad.

OzmaofOz Wed 10-Apr-13 21:48:37

It's been going for quite a while hasn't it, keep on meaning to get in to breaking bad too.

M0naLisa Wed 10-Apr-13 21:50:01

My dad keeps telling me to watch it as its good apparently but he says

'Its like a porn film in parts'

Yeah thanks dad grin

gobbledegook1 Wed 10-Apr-13 21:58:30

He did Worried, very sad indeed.

YouTheCat Wed 10-Apr-13 22:37:45

I got confused then and thought you meant Kirk Douglas was dead.

LaQueen Wed 10-Apr-13 23:17:45

Danys is only 13, when she has her wedding night with Kal Drogo. I thought it was actually very delicately written - she's clearly scared, but determined to make the best of it if that makes sense?

I can see how HBO thought it would be a difficult scene to convey, because it's quite ambivalent. Danys is very scared, but quite stoic, she's very uncertain and genuinely doesn't know what to do/say. Kal Drogo's attitude is just a very practical/functional approach let's get this over and done with. There's no romance or passion, as such. The emotions are too subtle to show on screen, I think.

I can kinda see why HBO just decided to play it as basically rape.

expatinscotland Thu 11-Apr-13 00:00:10

There's a bit in the first book. And really that doesn't count as a spoiler. Bran sees the 3-eyed crow and follows him, in a dream, to the crypt at Winterfell. There he sees and speaks to his father, who, they found out, has been executed. He tells Maester Luwin of it, and that Hodor will not go down to the crypts, so Osha bears him. He tells Maester that he saw Ned and that Ned was sad, because of something with Jon's mother. And the rest is left to chance.

It is often brought up that Ned was honourable, yet fathered a bastard, and even in the book 1, it is said that Catelyn knew men fathered bastards, that Ned was welcome to what solace he found on campaign, as her attentions were focused on Robb, who was breastfeeding. Yet she expected any bastard would be looked after, but not brought home to be reared among a man's own trueborn children, as Jon was. She accepts it as that the northmen are different.

In the book she heard rumours among her maids, of the Lady Ashara, the sister of Ser Arthur Deyne, the Sword of the Morning, and she knew her husband had slew him, and the Lady had thrown herself off a cliff into the sea. She hears rumours that the Lady had born a child.

She speaks as much to Ned and it was one of the few times he went mental at her, though he never struck her. He asks her where she heard such a tale, and after that she never hears anything again.

But it leaves it all open to interpretation, given Ned's flashbacks and dreams, particularly after his leg is crushed and he lies in the dungeons accused of treason.

Ned remembers meeting Deyne, and those who were with him, and the screams of Lyanna from the Tower of Joy, and her 'bed of blood'. And 'Promise me, Ned.'

BegoniaBampot Thu 11-Apr-13 08:26:02

going to catch up with the thread, only watched up to season 2. Any spoilers given away?

Trills Thu 11-Apr-13 08:37:08

YABVU to be shocked that an 18-rated series s rude! grin

A review you might like coparing the books to Lord of the Rings - top difference There are no good guys and bad guys. There are just a bunch of guys.

bettycocker Thu 11-Apr-13 11:27:32

I'm a bit of a lady lover and find Cersei really hot in an evil kind of way.

BegoniaBampot Thu 11-Apr-13 11:30:26

every time I look at Cersei I just see an older Keira Knightly, even sounds like her too.

YouTheCat Thu 11-Apr-13 11:31:33

Tbf, I don't think Keira Knightley has her range. grin

bettycocker Thu 11-Apr-13 11:34:55

Nooo, you just ruined it for me now BegoniaBampot. wink I never noticed it before, but now I do and I don't find Keira Knightly remotely attractive.

Thanks for the link Trills. grin

sashh Thu 11-Apr-13 12:25:56

I seem to remember from series 1 that I was rather annoyed by Daenerys' wedding night. It looks a lot like khal drogo rapes her but in the book, it's consensual.

And only a few days before her 14th birthday.

DoubleLifeIsALifeHalved Thu 11-Apr-13 20:35:03

I am so cross! I just got into game of thrones, watched first 6 episodes of series 1 on sky go and then to my horror in the early hours of this morning sky has somehow locked me out of sky on demand... Arrrrgh! I neeeed to watch the rest of it.... I'm addicted and very very cross!

AvrilPoisson Thu 11-Apr-13 21:57:34

Hahaha- begonia I always say to DH that I think they have exactly the same mouth and movements. It's her lower jaw jut.

Trills Fri 12-Apr-13 09:04:35

Lena Headey is really very different to Keira Knightley.

BegoniaBampot Fri 12-Apr-13 09:20:25

Nope they are dopplegangers.

I think she looks like Kiera Knightlys older sister.

YouTheCat Fri 12-Apr-13 22:47:54

Well, I have finished the first book.

I think Jon Snow is Robert's son which is why Ned took him under his wing and also why he has black hair - like all of Robert's other bastards. grin

BegoniaBampot Fri 12-Apr-13 22:49:51

Youthecat - said the same to mu husband after we watched the first series. makes more sense and is more dramatic.

YouTheCat Fri 12-Apr-13 22:51:20

Indeed. It just struck me because of things that were said between Catelyn and Ned.

I'm going to start the next book before the wine takes hold. grin

TheYoniVicarInaTutu Sat 13-Apr-13 00:40:05

can anyone tell me what the books are?

i may have to start reading them. i am so loving the thing on tv at the min.....

expatinscotland Sat 13-Apr-13 00:43:20

Jon does not look like Robert. He and Arya look most like Ned. Lyanna had the look of a Stark, too - brown hair and grey eyes.

BegoniaBampot Sat 13-Apr-13 00:51:58

I thought he might be the son of Robert and Ned's sister and that was why he took him to raise as his own. Not just your general garden variety bastard.

If you think Game of Thrones is bad, you definitely shouldn't watch Spartacus wink

YouTheCat Sat 13-Apr-13 01:11:58

Vicar, first book is called A Game of Thrones.

YouTheCat Sat 13-Apr-13 01:12:41

I've only managed the prologue of book 2 as the print is bloody tiny and I'm on my 3rd glass of wine. grin

TheYoniVicarInaTutu Sat 13-Apr-13 01:40:13

who are they written by?

YouTheCat Sat 13-Apr-13 02:00:21

George R.R. Martin

Theenemy Sat 13-Apr-13 05:22:14

Game of thrones is shown on HBO in the U.S and is only available to subscribers, it is rated TV-MA, for mature audiences and not recommended for children under seventeen.

moisturiser Sat 13-Apr-13 13:44:06

I'm going to be a real kiljoy and say I feel sad about just how explicit it is.

I like sex scenes in films, I really do, but the feminist in me just feels dismay that increasingly in showing so much graphic detail, actresses in general are going to have more pressure on them to be filmed like this. If you watch the recent utterly crap production of Labyrinth, it was the same, full nudity, graphic sex scenes. I just don't want that to become the norm and for actresses to feel like the only way to get parts is to let themselves be filmed doing this even if they're not entirely comfortable with it. I know in Series one there was one shot of a man nude too, but then the same goes for men, a great actor should be able to get a part even if they don't want to be filmed taking part in a graphic sex scene. But then I dislike how sexualised everything in general has become. I feel really sad for girls with how they have so much pressure to be sexually active early, take explicit photographs of themselves and generally be made to feel inadequate if they aren't sexy enough.

/Totally ruins thread.

Otherwise, I'm really enjoying GoT, I need to read the books.

BegoniaBampot Sat 13-Apr-13 13:48:50

moisturiser - feel the same as you. I'm not comfortable with all the female nudity, especially some of the bordello scenes. seems nearly every female character has has to get their kit off apart from Aria, Catelyn and Sanza - two of whom are child characters. loving the show but it is very one sided.

Bue Sat 13-Apr-13 13:52:18

Bloody hell, talk about spoilers!!!!! That will teach me for coming in here when I'm not all the way through the series yet sad

Bue Sat 13-Apr-13 13:54:32

And moisturiser, I also agree. I didn't enjoy Drogo and Dany's wedding night but found it realistic and relevant to the plot. It's all the bloody brothel scenes I could really do without - most of them are gratuitous and do nothing to move the story along.

bettycocker Sat 13-Apr-13 15:26:41

I actually agree with you moisturiser. I also felt feminist stirings whilst watching it, but it's a good story.

LaQueen Sat 13-Apr-13 16:57:54

Naked prostitues having sex in a brothel...? Not, especially shocking is it hmm

I'd be more surprised if they were knitting, or flower arranging, to be honest grin

BegoniaBampot Sat 13-Apr-13 17:11:45

so men don't get naked in brothels or when they are having sex?

Lighthousekeeping Sat 13-Apr-13 17:16:43

Boardwalk Empire was the same. I had boob envy all the time.

LaQueen Sat 13-Apr-13 17:18:44

Presumably men do...? But, I think the regulations concerning showing male genitalia are more strict than for women?

YouTheCat Sat 13-Apr-13 17:23:53

Theon and Hodor have both had their bits out.

picnicbasketcase Sat 13-Apr-13 17:53:12

I saw an interview with GRRM and he said all the characters ages had to be put up by four years so they could stick to the storylines. They can't legally show a 13yo character having sex (agree they made it look non consensual when it was not in the book) even though the actress is older than that, apparently.

I've been wondering about the Jon Snow / Lyanna thing for a while now too.

Trills Sat 13-Apr-13 18:15:21

Yes, and if you make Dany 18 then Jon and Rob have to be the same age, as they were all born during or just after Robert and co overthrowing the Mad King.

Joffrey is more forgivable when he is just turning 13, rather than the 16 or 17 that he appears to be in the show. Slightly.

bettycocker Sun 14-Apr-13 18:01:23

None of the women have pubes in GoT. Did they shave them off in the olden days then?

Badgerwife Sun 14-Apr-13 18:58:02

Having read the first three books, I'm the one who recommended to DH we get the season 1 DVD, having NO IDEA how much nudity there was going to be in the first episode alone. What with already having to find out about the incest bit I thought he might find it too much. Clearly not hmm
It's one thing to read it but quite another to watch it in all its glory. I was sooo embarrassed but he's not said a thing about it and keep going on about getting season 2. Still I can't bring myself to recommend it to anyone in RL

ladyjadie Tue 16-Apr-13 08:48:41

Does anyone know why they've started putting random unfitting songs on the end credits for s3?

ophelia275 Tue 16-Apr-13 09:00:20

I love all the nudity, male, female whatever. It is a brilliant book/tv series and what makes it so enjoyable is that it is so unpredictable and so un pc. It's a refreshing change from all the watered down, sterile rubbish that saturates most of the channels these days.

BegoniaBampot Tue 16-Apr-13 09:31:04

i love it too but you can't ignore that the women do a LOT more stripping than the men.

KittyLilith Tue 16-Apr-13 10:30:43

ladyjadie They are songs from the story. This week's was The Bear and the Maiden Fair.

ladyjadie Tue 16-Apr-13 11:46:32

ohh ok! but made to sound more modern, right? or am I just going mad?

OxfordBags Tue 16-Apr-13 12:36:27

ladyjadie, I googled last night's closing song choice, and articles say that it was deliberately used to ramp up the 'bloody hell!' factor of what happened to one of the major characters (not going to spoil it for anyone lurking who hasn't watched it) - emphasising how jarring life can be at times, etc., etc., blah blah.

katykuns Wed 17-Apr-13 16:30:54

I understand the annoyance at the sexualisation in GoT, but don't really get bothered about it myself, because the female characters aren't weak and weedy characters. Rather than sex being used to enslave them, they use it as a weapon... well most of them do.

Think its also meant to be inspired by medieval times, when women really were treated badly.

oh, and I also want to see Tyrion naked grin

MissSusan Wed 17-Apr-13 17:18:38

Yes it's based loosely on the war of the roses, so yeah women would have been treated really badly.
I have a huge crush on Peter Dinklage, so would not say no to a naked Tyrion.

ladyjadie Wed 17-Apr-13 17:52:03

Ohh I see.. Thanks Oxford! TBH I struggled to even remember what had happened!

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