To always be thankful to Maggie the milk snatcher

(79 Posts)
babybarrister Mon 08-Apr-13 20:55:56

For getting rid of school milk as i hate milk and it made me vom - just recollecting those warm bottles with the disgusting 'cream' on top putrifying grin. I used to be forced to drink it and just the smell would set me off so Maggiei salute you in all your milk snatching glory

usualsuspect Mon 08-Apr-13 20:56:51

Ok then.

Theicingontop Mon 08-Apr-13 20:58:25

Right...

HairyGrotter Mon 08-Apr-13 20:59:04

YABVU

Drink your fucking milk

WestieMamma Mon 08-Apr-13 21:00:46

We used to get milk and viscount biscuit. Best bit of going to school.

HoHoHoNoYouDont Mon 08-Apr-13 21:01:41

Oh I just adore viscount biscuits .

TWinklyLittleStar Mon 08-Apr-13 21:04:01

School milk was fucking horrible, it was always left at the front of the classroom getting warm during the day, nasty nasty stuff, and I didn't get sent to school with biscuits to make it better. I do love a mint viscount.

TWinklyLittleStar Mon 08-Apr-13 21:05:00
HelenDaniels Mon 08-Apr-13 21:05:34

I think I would have cried if I had been made to drink milk at school. I can't stand milk at the best of times and can't imagine it warm.

babybarrister Mon 08-Apr-13 21:05:42

She did a great job for children everywhere in ridding them of the vile stuff that is milk grin

landofsoapandglory Mon 08-Apr-13 21:07:40

School milk was always left outside in the sun at our school. If you were lucky the birds had got to the tops first, and pecked their way through saving you a job!

Cold warm sourish milk still makes me heave now!

I quite like a Viscount though!

Another milk hater here. Pre school regretted the day they tried to force me to drink it. Major major tears grin

I still hate it 30 years later.

But hey some kids love it I guess. But I still shudder at the thought if those horrid little warm cartons

DolomitesDonkey Mon 08-Apr-13 21:09:13

Signs in for milk-haters. Love milk, hate warm milk.

HollyBerryBush Mon 08-Apr-13 21:09:39

Never let a myth get in the way of truth grin


Harold Wilson's Labour government stopped free milk for secondary school pupils in 1968 and then in 1971, Lady Thatcher, who was education secretary under Sir Edward Heath, ended free school milk for children over the age of seven.

Although the move gave her the nickname "Thatcher, Thatcher, milk-snatcher" and cemented the public view that she would ruthlessly cut spending, documents released recently suggest she had actually fought to save the grants. She was overruled by Sir Edward.

tethersend Mon 08-Apr-13 21:09:48

I was the milk monitor and got to ride on the caretaker's trolley.

My memory of that is less dodgy than it sounds on reading it back.

Gorjuss Mon 08-Apr-13 21:09:55

Those little glass bottles !!! I remember being made to pour off the cream so we could do a class project making butter.

BeingAWifeIsNotForMe Mon 08-Apr-13 21:09:59

Oh god yes.

Milk left out in the sun, the tops had all been pecked by humphrey and not allowed out to play until you had finished. sad

Bunbaker Mon 08-Apr-13 21:10:33

Pity she didn't outlaw parsnips thengrin

I get that you have issues with milk.

M0naLisa Mon 08-Apr-13 21:10:59

It was foul. I remember it in first school. It's that that's out me off milk from the bottle. I can't drink it now because of that.
We had little blue straws too. Eurgh!!!!! Making me gag thinking about.

barebranches Mon 08-Apr-13 21:14:23

its happening again.... my reception children will each loose their free milk ( which i keep in a fridge) as they turn 5. bloody tories....

babybarrister Mon 08-Apr-13 21:15:09

Well it was Maggie that saved me as I was in primary school when she got rid of it for primary schools grin
The bloody straws would never go through the tops and I got no biscuits not that you would know it as I was always chubby foul crates of the stuff souring in the sun ever day angry

chicaguapa Mon 08-Apr-13 21:18:14

You can still buy them. Does this bring back bad memories? school milk bottles

nametakenagain Mon 08-Apr-13 21:25:58

Disgusting stuff, warm, congealed, bleugh.

But sometimes, if I was very quick, I'd get a red straw rather than a standard blue one.

Still disgusting stuff, though

McNewPants2013 Mon 08-Apr-13 21:28:01

I love milk, it was never in school when i was growing up.

E320 Mon 08-Apr-13 21:35:01

Should we all not just remember that milk is actually liquid food for calves?

elfycat Mon 08-Apr-13 21:36:27

I've always said that Mrs T. was one of my heroes for getting rid of that milk. Out all morning in the sun then children were forced to drink it. Rancid, going off milk. My DF cannot drink milk or have cream because of his milk experience so it went on for a whole generation longer than it should have.

Let's face it, it would be illegal to handle food in this manner now.

LornMowa Mon 08-Apr-13 21:36:49

Another one here with memories of the relief that I wouldn't have to drink any more of the foul stuff. I do remember liking the Christmas bottle tops with holly on them though.

AmandaCooper Mon 08-Apr-13 21:39:29

I always remember it frozen in winter, exploding up out of the bottles and us all waiting for it to thaw to drink it.

WandaDoff Mon 08-Apr-13 21:45:03

It's giving me the boak just thinking about it.

I still can't drink plain milk. Yuck. <<shudders>>

I never did understand why they were so insistent on it being drunk. In sure kids could get through the day without their nasty warm dumped outside building milk. Who wouldn't have preferred a glass from the fridge at home.

I feel sick reading this thread. God I can't stand the site of it . grin

TigerSwallowtail Mon 08-Apr-13 21:54:10

Our milk was kept in a cool bag type thing and tasted lovely.

AwkwardSquad Mon 08-Apr-13 21:54:16

I used to quite like it when it was part frozen. Milk slushy.

Fargo86 Mon 08-Apr-13 21:56:19

We still got it at school in the early 80s. Maybe parents had to pay for it though.

Nancy66 Mon 08-Apr-13 21:59:14

it was horrible - but being milk monitor and getting to pierce all the lids with a skewer was ace.

HumphreyCobbler Mon 08-Apr-13 22:02:21

we still have milk in Wales. They used to have pink or blue cartons in my old school. I found one lad crying over his pink carton "I didn't want milk from a lady cow, Miss!"

Toasttoppers Mon 08-Apr-13 22:03:28

DH hated it and even as a six year old felt perturbed as to why we all got it. I on the other hand was grateful as we were not fed enough at home. I remember my lovely teacher letting me have a second bottle if there were spare.

FanjoForTheMammaries Mon 08-Apr-13 22:06:39

Exactly..it was for kids who didn't get enough to eat at home

FanjoForTheMammaries Mon 08-Apr-13 22:07:17

So moaning about it is just utterly missing the point

EuroShaggleton Mon 08-Apr-13 22:07:55

I agree, OP. Vile nasty warm stuff. <shudder> I eventually persuaded my parent to write a note so I didn't have to have the damned stuff anymore.

FirstVix Mon 08-Apr-13 22:24:13

Well Fanjo, that's a good point. Although I hated the warm, rancid stuff myself.

But...wasn't she also responsible in some way for the Mr Whippy-type ice-cream? Complete philistine that I am I STILL love that stuff now!

We still had this at primary school in the early 90s. I think it was kept in a fridge by that point though. But I have never liked milk and it makes me heave. In reception, my mum was allowed to bring a carton of Ribena for me, but that stopped in year 1. The school tried to insist I drink the evil vile stuff milk, but luckily my mum hates milk too and said she wasn't going to force me to drink something I genuinely dislike. The teachers used to make me and another girl who didn't have the milk (I'm pretty sure her family were vegan) sit in a classroom by ourselves and made lots of comments about our refusal to drink the milk sad

I can understand the milk being for kids who don't get enough at home, but that wasn't the case with either of us. I used to get plenty of calcium from yoghurts and stuff. It was just mean to penalise us for disliking something, and it still makes me sad.

My parents wrote a note so I didn't have to have it. I drove my mum crazy with my refusal to drink it and my insistence of inspecting the milk to check for cream as to whether I'd have it on cereal.

I do not Remember a time where I ever drank plain milk. I must have been a toddler as I remember not even drinking it at Pre school.

Jan49 Tue 09-Apr-13 00:32:21

I remember I always found drinking the whole bottle too much so one day I tried just not taking my bottle from the crate. Unfortunately the crate contained exactly the right number of bottles for the class and the teacher noticed and insisted I drank it.

Someone asked me today if Margaret Thatcher ever did anything good and thanks to this thread I've realised that's one good thing she did.grin

I threw up and was sent home every day for the first two weeks I was at school because they made me drink it. Then my Mum asked what was going on and they told her I was always sick after milk time.
She told them to stop making me drink the milk. I wasn't sick any more. Doh!

Morloth Tue 09-Apr-13 01:00:01

I will never get my head around drinking milk.

It grosses me out.

Weird really as cheese/cream is fine as is eating the cow.

But the thought of drinking milk is just yuck.

TheRealFellatio Tue 09-Apr-13 01:11:50

Another full-fat, luke warm milk hater signing in. Funnily enough, I was thinking about this last night, and how I don't know what all the bloody fuss was over stopping the milk - did anyone actually enjoy it?

I can still remember that smell to this day....and that vile solidfied yellow grease around the top of the bottle......and the bird pecked holes in the foil. UUUUURGHHH.<shudders>

Angelico Tue 09-Apr-13 01:17:46

I loved it in winter when it was icy cold but it was utterly boke-making in the summer. We had it all through the eighties too so I was a bit confused when they said on the news that she stopped it in the seventies.

I HATED the school milk. It was frozen in winter, then rancid, lumpy and stinking in the summer. I have hated milk all my life. I even remember being forced to drink it at play-school when I was 3. I used to sneak my bottle to one of the boys to drink, and he'd give me his empty one back so I could return it to the crate.

And don't get me started on malted milk biscuits!

ravenAK Tue 09-Apr-13 01:33:07

Cannot drink milk to this day.

I follow colleagues round the staffroom asking them to 'sniff this for me, is it off?' because the smell of it makes me boak even when it isn't.

But I don't like black coffee so have to have precisely the right amount of milk which an independent witness has verified as 'no, it's FINE raven, ffs, have you thought of trying herbal tea?'

So, OK, chalk that one up in her favour, if nothing else.

Machli Tue 09-Apr-13 02:51:17

It was fine in winter, nice and cold but in summer it was grim.

TwuntingCrow Tue 09-Apr-13 05:46:19

Same here .. Gave me a lifelong aversion to the stuff sad

Morloth Tue 09-Apr-13 05:57:14

Cream raven a dash of cream in coffee is so much better.

Sunnymeg Tue 09-Apr-13 07:50:47

When I was little I was very underweight (prem baby) and had to follow a diet from the hospital. I had to drink a pint of milk everyday, which is a lot when you are four! So when I started school I was then expected to drink the school milk as well and I just couldn't! I spent five years of my life hanging round the drain in the playground and pouring the milk down it when the supervisors weren't looking. Margaret Thatcher got rid of school milk when I was nine.

I too never drink the stuff now .

FanjoForTheMammaries Tue 09-Apr-13 07:54:27

Oh well..if you all disliked it, , clearly she did a great and noble thing hmm

OOAOML Tue 09-Apr-13 07:58:57

I hated the stuff, why did they think it was ok to leave it out on the steps for hours? I still remember throwing up spectacularly the day we had hideous macaroni cheese (lots of burnt bits a speciality in my primary) for lunch and I couldn't cope with the dairy overload.

PMSL at "milk from a lady cow" grin

SamuelWestsMistress Tue 09-Apr-13 08:09:14

I'm with you on this! I hate milk to this very day because of just what you describe. SPEW.

tazzle Tue 09-Apr-13 08:18:23

If you are not old enough to remember times when fruit was scarce ( hence the special treat and tradition of an orange in the toe of Xmas stocking) and having codliver oil or rosehip syrup as our vitamins and far less variety of dairy foos ... as well as just being poor and generally kess well fed then you wont appreciate why school milk was needed by many.

By the time it was abolished the same needs were not so prevalent .... though there are some children that might benefit.

....and I don't drink milk lol

Just because something's in place to help more needy children doesn't mean it's ok for it to be rancid and vile. Are kids supposed to be grateful for being made ill? Perhaps in theory it was a nice idea but many schools had nowhere to store it properly. Milk is one if the quickest foods to go off and the most allergenic food.

If there was a choice then fine but in this thread alone people were forced to drink it. That's not right by any means!

Raven I do the exact same thing with milk for my tea and coffee. I've trained myself to drink black coffee now and I like green tea with jasmine or lemon.

What do you do about cereal? I don't eat it now, but I did as a child. I used to put the milk on, and then carefully drain each spoonful of the vile stuff. My Mum used to offer me toast or eggs but for some reason I persisted with the cereal!

WillowJoinInOurCrufae Tue 09-Apr-13 09:58:08

I still can't bring myself to drink milk now because of the disgusting stuff we used to be forced to drink at school. The smell ... the taste ... it was horrific. So I was pleased when it stopped, though I appreciate why others think it was a bad thing.

Another one who still doesn't drink milk now after being forced to drink little bottles of lukewarm gloop milk in school.

Even after decades the smell of warm milk turns my stomach.

I have soya milk on cereal and black tea and coffee.

Coconutty Tue 09-Apr-13 10:03:48

I literally have to stop myself being sick when I think of those warm, grey liquid filled bottles.

I missed so many playtimes as you had to drink it before you could go out and I really couldn't get it down. Yuk.

shrimponastick Tue 09-Apr-13 10:06:21

Wow! And I thought it was just me that is now a lifelong milk hater from school luke warm claggy milk.

Haven't touched the stuff since.

Bleurgh....

myfirstkitchen Tue 09-Apr-13 10:15:10

I drink soya milk & it has to be ice cold. Couldn't touch milk after being forced to drink bottles of rancid cottage cheese at school.

Although its a shame there isn't something for children who don't get enough. My friend teaches primary in a rough area and her hearts broken by the hungry children who can't concentrate on school because their tummies are rumbling. Maybe oat biscuits and bananas though instead of something revolting.

cory Tue 09-Apr-13 10:16:37

We had lovely chilled milk in the sixties- choice between full fat and semi skimmed. Surely British technology would have been well up to the same?

propertyNIGHTmareBEFOREXMAS Tue 09-Apr-13 10:28:23

Its true that school milk was fucking filthy and often left in the sun all morning. I have a lifelong hatred of milk as a result. I can have it in hot drinks, frappe or milkshake but I would gag and be sick if i tried to drink a glass of straight milk.

DontmindifIdo Tue 09-Apr-13 10:29:23

oh thank god for her snatching the milk before I started school - DB remembers it being horrible, at least I was saved that. I hate hate hate milk. I will have yoghurt and cheese, but that's your lot.

DontmindifIdo Tue 09-Apr-13 10:30:13

Cory - it was normally chilled right up to the point it was delivered to the school, then it would sit out getting warm until they forced the children to drink it.

AvrilPoisson Tue 09-Apr-13 10:35:11

Skimmed/semi-skimmed didn't really appear until 80s here cory, no idea why. My brother couldn't drink normal milk (we had pasturised sterilised stuff at home) and had to have a special order from the dairy, it was homogenised milk (ie had the fat broken up) which he could just about tolerate, though goats milk was better, but our milkman couldn't get it hmm
We occasionally did get him gotsmilk from the health food shop where we bought our pasta, I kid you not! Couldn't get pasta in the supermarket!

propertyNIGHTmareBEFOREXMAS Tue 09-Apr-13 10:35:40

Don'tmind. Seriously, she did you a favour!

shrimponastick Tue 09-Apr-13 10:37:30

I can smell it now. 40 years later. Ugh.

Loitering by the art sink to surreptitiously tip mine down the plughole.. ;)

NayFindus Tue 09-Apr-13 10:54:20

I loved my school milks, I was always bloody starving in school and it was the best part of the day, just sitting there for 2 minutes enjoying the lovely creaminess of it.

I still remember a girl called Melody I had to sit next to in English, she would always glare at me in disgust because my tummy was rumbling but the whole class was silent because we were reading and I couldn't do anything to disguise it, oh the shame sad

babybarrister Tue 09-Apr-13 14:28:36

I am sorry for people who needed the milk as they were hungry and I do certainly think that there should have been something in place - not necessarily cow's milk - for those children whose parents' could not give them a proper breakfast for whatever reason.

This thread though was meant to be light hearted as when I was a child (a) I did not need the milk and (b) I hated it

Clearly I am not alone grin

forevergreek Tue 09-Apr-13 14:31:33

What? I never got a viscount biscuit!! Just a basic rich tea or nothing sad

yetanotherworry Tue 09-Apr-13 14:36:12

I was one of those children who needed it because of lack of food at home but still have nightmares of being forced to drink it at school when it was warm and rancid in Summer. We didn't get the biscuits either - I'm sure it would have been better to just give out toast.

zukiecat Tue 09-Apr-13 14:44:58

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

saulaboutme Tue 09-Apr-13 16:23:53

Yabu! I was lucky enough to have a dad who worked and had lots of milk at home. Plenty of my friends didn't! I remember the milk not being there anymore and the tears.
It may have been a relief for you but not everyone. Where I went to school there was alot of poverty and the milk was looked forward to.
What a ridiculous thing to thank her for.
I think it's another example of her being detached from RL. I hate her for it.

babybarrister Tue 09-Apr-13 17:15:09

clearly there was quite a lot of wasted milk that could have been put to a better use rather than poured sureptitiously down drains and sinks grin

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