To be so glad I'm not the youth of today!

(89 Posts)
SamuelWestsMistress Sat 06-Apr-13 20:38:17

Especially with the young girls. The big hair extensions, full make up, fake tan, huge eyelashes, drawn on eyebrows look must be such high maintenance! It looks lovely, but I just can't imagine ever being arsed. I'd never have pulled! I'm so glad we never had Facebook or mobiles either. I was a teen in the early/mid 90s and thought that was traumatic enough with tie dye, dms and those heat changing tshirt things.

zwischenzug Sat 06-Apr-13 20:39:58

Have to say most young girls round here don't look like that. Do you live in Essex?

Sirzy Sat 06-Apr-13 20:42:06

I was a teen mid 90s and there were plenty of my peers who were using sunbeds and wearing thick make up and fancy hair styles.

UhOhChongo Sat 06-Apr-13 20:59:02

It seems to be paradoxically both more free but also more conformist. If that makes sense.

mrsjay Sat 06-Apr-13 21:02:22

I don't see may teen girls looking like you describe most of the DDs friends couldn't be arsed with all that although there is girls who are styled like that in dds school hey i was an 80s teenager was all spikey hair onto spral perms and shoulder pads and far too much make up by the time i was 15 it took me hours to get the hair right grin

Annunziata Sat 06-Apr-13 21:03:19

I hear you about facebook and BBM. I hate them.

But there was just as much pressure to look like Madonna a certain way in the 80s.

mrsjay Sat 06-Apr-13 21:05:58

I did not have any frilly hair ribbon and lacey gloves in the 80s no way would i wear such a thing grin

I agree with you about social media and BBMing (it must be exhausting to be a teenager now as you don't get much of a break from the scrutiny of your peers).

Jestrin Sat 06-Apr-13 21:08:43

YANBU I'm glad too as I would not fancy any of the lads with their trousers hanging down with last weeks washing on show....

usualsuspect Sat 06-Apr-13 21:09:57

We didn't clump about in 6 inch platforms with curly perms and bright blue eyeshadow, oh no.

hedgefund Sat 06-Apr-13 21:10:39

i wore yellow and purple lipstick the 80s and i was quite normal.

the 80s was very very high maintenance but also fun, think they girls now are just having fun with it too. i also would have loved facebook and mobiles!

TWinklyLittleStar Sat 06-Apr-13 21:12:13

Er zwischenzug I live in Essex and the girls round here are more likely to be in horsey gear or jeans or PJs

mrsjay Sat 06-Apr-13 21:13:35

the 80s is solely responsible for the hole in the ozone all that ELLNETT grin

usualsuspect Sat 06-Apr-13 21:13:40

I would have loved FB and a mobile too. Queuing for the phone box in the 70s was a bit crap TBH.

IntheFrame Sat 06-Apr-13 21:13:59

YANBU. As someone who has been to Uni twice (20's and 40's) I can say that they put a lot more time money and effort these days. The scruffy up bun thing is just about as low key as they are prepared to do hair but "proper" make up seems to be de rigueur.

Annunziata Sat 06-Apr-13 21:14:04

I was laughing at DD's disco pants until I realised I had an electric blue pair c. 1986/7. The shame! grin

HollyBerryBush Sat 06-Apr-13 21:14:25

But there was just as much pressure to look like Madonna a certain way in the 80s.

More like Princess Di round these parts.

noisytoys Sat 06-Apr-13 21:15:30

I was a teenager only 6 years ago and can honestly say I've never gone to all that effort and don't know many people who have

Uppermid Sat 06-Apr-13 21:15:32

But not all teens look like that. There have been stereotypes for every generation, just because that is what the media choose to show, doesn't mean they all dress I've that. Just like not all old ladies have helmet hair!

hedgefund Sat 06-Apr-13 21:16:10

i used to spend hours getting ready, took years to pile on that glittery eyeshadow from miss selfridge, not to mention gelling the hair so it stood on end.

yoof in the 90s was quite poor really, no effort at all from them

IntheFrame Sat 06-Apr-13 21:16:25

I do think they are nicer (less judgmental ?)these days however and boys are more open and honest.

mrsjay Sat 06-Apr-13 21:16:31

you had to queue for the phonebox in the early 80s too i wasn't allowed to use the house phone,confused 1 thing we could do was organise to meet friends I will get you at the park at 6 after my tea, now it is all text facebook and a just check and see text before they can go anywhere sigh

hedgefund Sat 06-Apr-13 21:17:10

ooh yes i had a lady blouse with stand up collar and used to wear it with a little velvet bow round the collar, teamed with copper knicker bockers though i was about 12 then grin

hedgefund Sat 06-Apr-13 21:17:27

lady di blouse

mrsjay Sat 06-Apr-13 21:17:40

my sister was a 90s yoof was all polo shirts and sports wear no imagination imo

mrsjay Sat 06-Apr-13 21:18:39

I was 10/11ish when I had my velvet peddle pushers and lady di blouse oh and good gawd the hair blush

kim147 Sat 06-Apr-13 21:18:45

I wish I was a teenager now. Not 30 years ago. Life would be a little different.

But life was simpler 30 years ago. I'd have been crap at revising with all the distractions. Is there a teenage version of MN grin

hedgefund Sat 06-Apr-13 21:20:47

ooh look! lady di in that blouse!

Annunziata Sat 06-Apr-13 21:22:09

My mum tried to make me dress like Lady Di, urgh!

I'm actually glad I was born in the 70s. My hair does the 80s perm naturally blush

mrsjay Sat 06-Apr-13 21:23:26

I am sure the shops sold the blouses for the street parties for the wedding thats when i wore mine,

hedgefund Sat 06-Apr-13 21:29:54

i never had an 80 perm though i did have a 'demi' wave grin

Annunziata Sat 06-Apr-13 21:32:12

My hair is was like this

grin

MamaMary Sat 06-Apr-13 21:38:35

Aaaah, I miss the 90s with its oversize checked shirts, T shirts and DMs.

I miss casual wear because I am lazy it suited me. It annoys me that women are expected to dress up so much more these days.

mrsjay Sat 06-Apr-13 21:41:38

I used to pay A LOT of money for that hair Anna

Annunziata Sat 06-Apr-13 22:29:38

<effortless>

grin

jinsymaw Sat 06-Apr-13 22:31:38

Ah the 90s, the music, swing out sister, crowded house, Danny Wilson etc. the list is endless! Might have to have a tipsy night of singing old favourites with headphones on. Sorry, back to topic, I am feeling my little 12 year old is growing up too quickly asking me to bleach the hairs on her legs and plucking of eyebrows. Then there is instagram where they have the same pose of pursed lips and provocative stance. I have decided to take her iPod away because of this.

BackforGood Sat 06-Apr-13 22:38:22

I know dozens and dozens of teens, and not one of them looks like how you describe. Not sure where you live, or where you are looking hmm

UhOhChongo Sat 06-Apr-13 22:38:59

Can't bear that pandering to men's sexual fantasy images being touted as empowerment clap trap.

jinsymaw Sat 06-Apr-13 22:54:32

Back, "Or where you are looking". Kinda taking offence at that remark. I get a nasty insinuation from that comment. Live in glasgow and I would say that half of her friends post photos on instagram. I know this as I like to know she is communicating with.

Annunziata Sat 06-Apr-13 23:06:21

My DDs look 'like that'. There's nothing wrong with it. Make up and clothes don't make you stupid, evil or slutty.

BackforGood Sat 06-Apr-13 23:06:57

nasty insinuation ? confused
Sorry, don't know what you mean.
I'm just saying that - among all the teens my ds mixes with, my dd mixes with, my nieces mix with, and all their groups of friends that post on FB etc., and the teens I volunteer with, I've never seen anyone looking like what you describe. Didn't know if you were watching one of those daft programmes that portray somewhat unusual characters as if they were what all teens were like.

SamuelWestsMistress Sun 07-Apr-13 10:34:08

I just see it all around! Perhaps I live in a better looking part of the country than some grin I'm not sure how some seem to be taking offence to my observations. I've already said I think the look is lovely, but it just must be so high maintenance! Especially the spray tanning. I've tried it a few times and its such a faff. I'm holding out for the pale blotchy look to come into fashion!

BackforGood This is what most of the young teens are like in my area too - like the OP.

I'm in Liverpool, and ALL teenage girls look like that round my way. (And also see a lot of hair in rollers, full make-up and pyjamas hmm). My DSD used to look like that when she was a teen, we used to call her an Oompa Loompa. She's toned in down a lot now now she's 20, but still wears hair extensions to work (why confused) etc.

I'm also in Liverpool and it is the case here that most teen girls you see have the look that the OP describes. I sometimes do myself when I'm going out.
I was very orange between 2001-2007!

I sometimes look at the local teenage girls and think I will try something they're wearing, then remember I am twice their age and size not a teenager anymore and shiny red skintight trousers wouldn't suit my post-baby muffin top.
Also the thought of making that effort every day makes me want to go to sleep.

Fillyjonk75 Sun 07-Apr-13 13:17:27

I would never want to be any other age than I am now. I think teens now generally look a lot more stylish and together than I did! I think people of my age were lucky that grunge was the fashion in my late teens when I wasn't confident with my body. Lots of baggy clothes.

ComposHat Sun 07-Apr-13 13:22:36

I was a teenager in the 1990s during the grunge and britpop era so I get where you are coming from.

The outfits were fairly androgynous (Doc Martens/Converse and flannel shirts for grunge and then Fred Perrys, retro addidas trainers and tracksuit tops) I think that it encouraged us to see young women as mates and interesting people rather than sex objects.

Theicingontop Sun 07-Apr-13 13:26:54

Tbh they were the same when I was in school, which was less than ten years ago. I didn't bother and thought (still do) that they all looked like morons.

What's with this eyebrow craze at the moment? I'm seeing girls walking around looking like this guy.

BaresarkBunny Sun 07-Apr-13 13:33:03

Its like that here too. I was a teenager in the 90s and am glad the fashion wasn't like that then. Going out clothes seem really tiny now, I would be a virgin forever if I was a teenager now.

HoHoHoNoYouDont Sun 07-Apr-13 13:37:21

I'm glad we didn't have laptops and gadgets because I would never have afforded them. Dress down day was stressful enough for me as I didn't have any fashionable clothes.

YANBU. I grew up with myspace and MSN and that was hard enough!

SatsukiKusukabe Sun 07-Apr-13 13:59:40

bullying takes on a whole new level via FB, and the huge amount of porn that girls and boys are exposed to from such an early can't make first fumbles much fun.

cumfy Sun 07-Apr-13 14:04:48

I was convinced this was a Paris Brown reference.grin

Repeatedlydoingthetwist Sun 07-Apr-13 14:14:00

I can't tell you how glad I am that fb wasn't around when I was a teen. I had a pager and that was stressful enough!

ppeatfruit Sun 07-Apr-13 14:26:02

Okay I was a teenager in the 60s shock We had to straighten our hair without straighteners to look like Twiggy(Dsis and I ironed our hair 'cos ours was frizzy) we dyed it blonde with horrible highly chemical dyes dsis wore hair pieces.
We wore fake eyelashes and drew them under our eyes.!! only when we went out though and it wasn't long before flower power came and the tiny mini skirts went out of the window.
So you can see that not much changes except the mobile phones now mean we wouldn't have been waiting around for hours for friends who never turned up grin

FunnyLittleFrog Sun 07-Apr-13 14:28:50

YANBU OP.

I didn't learn how to 'dress up' to go out until well into my 20s.

I went from dungarees and Joe Bloggs baggy hooded tops with short hair in the late 80s to grungey long skirts, docs and long messy hair in the early 90s to the full on Brit-pop look in the mid 90s. Then cargo pants / twisted Levis / vest top look in the late 90s. I wore minimal make-up and did nothing with my hair. It was all low maintenance, allowed freedom of movement (i.e. no short skirts and heels!) and I loved it.

When I look at photos of how I dressed for a night out I can't believe it. By today's standards I look like I'm going camping!

acceptableinthe80s Sun 07-Apr-13 16:55:00

Yanbu. I was on a rare night out last night and was the only person wearing flats. No one else could dance due to sky scraper heels/skintight dresses, just sort of shuffled from side to side whilst I jumped around in my comfy boots like a loon grin.
I actually felt a bit sorry for all the young girls, they obviously think they have to completely change the way they look to be 'acceptable'.
They looked like they spent the whole week getting ready, mind you I probably looked like I spent 5 minutes getting ready, which I did.

HelenDaniels Sun 07-Apr-13 17:05:36

I felt very old and past it when I went into Urban Outfittes with dd and grumbled that it was all the same sort of shite I wore in the 90s, but my clobber cost tuppence from Sue Ryder.

Not all teens are like that. It depends on their crowd, just as it always had. So you have the 'girly girls' who look like that, and the indie type girls, goths, and sporty types.

I agree with the whole life on social nedia thing, mind you I spend a lot of time on here so that's not just a teen thing.

I laugh at the scouse brows that a lot of youngsters have, but no different from my plucking my entire eyebrows and drawing a thin line a la 90s eyebrows.

HelenDaniels Sun 07-Apr-13 17:09:03

Youngsters!

ppeatfruit Sun 07-Apr-13 17:50:13

I was dying to get some winkle picker high heels but my DM didn't allow it and by the time I could afford them myself I wasn't stupid enough to wear them. I cannot believe that the girls wear them SOOOO high now even older ones like Zoe Ball who has the brains to set a better example to the yoof of today!

marjproops Sun 07-Apr-13 18:03:29

OP you think fake tan/falsies/extensions looks lovely???????

they look like oompa-loompas/clowns/other word thats un-pc now.

I wasnt allowed to wear make up till i was 17 and THEN only lip gloss!

and Im no oil painting at the best of times, but, seriously?????

these are the age that have (barring spots) lovely smooth complexions and fresh faced and theyre ruining it all.

see them in 10 years with bad skin probs.

i mean we had jamtarts in my day but not like this.

ive seen schoolgirls on the bus-the indian and other culture grils look lovely, neat and tidy and a pride to the school, then you get the britney spears lot....skirts hoiked up you can see their things, cake din make up....are they allowed in school like that?

and yy to the guys with their pants showing too.

......hoiks up judgy pants and boobs.........and namechanges to mary whitehouse.......

marjproops Sun 07-Apr-13 18:07:11

thats not to say i havent had my fair share of fashion/hair disasters btw!

but never dressed or looked like erm.....you know.....not that they all do, just the ones round here anyway!

ppeatfruit Sun 07-Apr-13 18:16:12

That's what they used to say about us 60s mods honest marj or is it Mary Whitehouse !! grin and I've grown up fine grin Its a yoof thing; they used to say that in the days of the Regency "What's happening to the yoof of today!!!" It's definitely an age thing!

ppeatfruit Sun 07-Apr-13 18:19:11

And the flappers in the 20s; OMG they CUT their hair and showed their legs ABOVE THE ANKLES shock and the teddyboys in the 50s. So you see its always been like that its normal human nature to want to rebel against your parents.

SamuelWestsMistress Sun 07-Apr-13 18:24:35

I do Marjproops. I know some make it look extreme, but I think that done well its really glamorous. But can't imagine how long it must take for them to put it all on AND take it all off!

Maat Sun 07-Apr-13 18:29:58

I was a punk rocker in the '70s and spent a lot of time back-combing my hair, applying lots of black eyeliner and attaching safety pins to all my clothes.

Teenagers today don't know they're born winkgrin

EndoplasmicReticulum Sun 07-Apr-13 18:32:40

Lots of my school year were high maintenance. In the late 80s they all had yellow crinkly perms and lots of green eyeshadow and stripy blusher.

I had short straight hair and looked like a boy. Until I got into 6th form and went a bit goth.

marjproops Sun 07-Apr-13 18:36:47

old age setting in.....and i agree that with the media pressure too....but other fashions dont look as ridiculous do they?

its the orange thing more than anything. you know when you'vebeen tangoed.

stubbornstains Sun 07-Apr-13 20:44:30

All the young gels round here are sporting DMs, thick black tights, tiddly mini skirts, flannel shirts, brothel creeper shoes, big chunky cardigans, skinny jeans, tweed jackets and, as far as I can see, minimal make up.

The 1990s never did go away, you know. They just moved to Cornwall grin

Snazzynewyear Sun 07-Apr-13 20:49:22

YANBU. Whatever the look is, it seems like it takes a lot more effort that I would want to put in (even though I did do plenty of slapping on make up and tottering around in heels as a teen). Add in the social media pressure, plus the ridiculously high youth unemployment rates and cost of university, and I feel I had a really good deal compared to current teenagers.

Bodicea Sun 07-Apr-13 22:04:00

Glad I was a teenager in the late 90s - grungy look and natural no make up look was in. Think all I ever wore was mascara and a bit of blusher most of the time. When I was a broke student that was an easy enough look to pull of and I left uni with hardly any debt. Didn't get a manicure till I was 22. Now they all seem to be able to afford to get their nails done etc and spend a fortune on maintenance. Seriously where do they get the money. When next generation complains about not beig able to get o property ladder and having no savings for future I don't have much sympathy.

marriedinwhiteagain Sun 07-Apr-13 22:07:31

My DDs 15. She and her friends aren't like that at all. Skinny jeans, nice top, preppy blazer or cardigan or leggings under a shortish skirt or shorts and pretty much the same on top. They wear docs, or thick soled things from Office, vans or boots (Uggs seem to have "died" here).

DD has baskets of make-up but doesn't use it much. She is having proper highlights in her blonde hair on her birthday and I have said she can dip dye the ends pink or blue on the first day of the holidays and it will have to be cut off when it's time to go back to school. She is also having her ears repierced.

Essexgirlupnorth Sun 07-Apr-13 22:46:25

Yes the bullying would have been ten times worse with Facebook.

I never really cared what I looked like as a teenager though did do goth light for a bit.

BeeWi Sun 07-Apr-13 22:50:14

YANBU. Regardless of looks, Facebook and the ability to text, sext etc has taken bullying to whole new extremes. As an Head of Year at a school before going onto maternity leave, an increasingly large amount of time was spent unpicking problems arising from spats on Facebook.

In our day, rumours could be written on a toilet wall and seen by a handful of other kids. These days they can spread rumours about other kids to hundreds of their peers with the click of a mouse. Imagine how horrifying it'd be if that happened to a teenage you, when what your peers thought of you was the be all and end all.

1944girl Sun 07-Apr-13 22:52:32

I was a teenager in the late 50s to early 60s.
I can remember wearing hooped petticoats that made your skirt like a lampshade, stilleto heels with winklepicker toes, and backcombed my hair into a bouffuant (sp), using a full can of laquer.In the 60s came the mini skirt, my grandma was horrified y it.
I have teenage grandaughters now who have horrified me by their dress, the third one is 16 and has to be seen to be believed, fake tan, hair extensions the lot.Addicted to FB and phones.
I wonder what their daughters and grandaughters will look like.

MechanicalTheatre Mon 08-Apr-13 00:03:20

I think teenagers must be a LOT less innocent than we were. I mean, I knew everything about sex more or less before I did it, but I'd never actually SEEN an erect penis before one was in front of my astonished eyes when I first gave a guy a handjob. I had no idea what things could be got up to in the sack, beyond sex, masturbation and oral, so it was a lot of fun discovering!

I think it would be less fun now, there's no mystery when you've seen it all acted out in porn 5 million times.

Facebook would be both useful and awful. I was very shy, so it would have been easier for me to socialise maybe. But I imagine you'd get a load of shit as well.

ppeatfruit Mon 08-Apr-13 08:57:36

YANBU O.P. and marj with the orange look I hate that too grin but that's dying out now isn't it?

chrome100 Mon 08-Apr-13 10:11:51

I came across the most bizarre thing in town the other day. Around 200 strangely dressed 16 year olds were gathered outside the town hall. I asked one what was going on and apparently they were waiting for the "celebrities". On further questioning, it turns out these are young people who are "famous" on facebook for doing fuck all other than having lots of friends. These "famous" kids turn up in taxis on red carpets and everyone mobs them and has their photo with them. I don't get it.

ppeatfruit Mon 08-Apr-13 11:06:20

It sounds weird chrome but they're not harming anyone are they?

marjproops Mon 08-Apr-13 18:36:53

thing is in this day and age (not that it didnt happen before but these days with so much internet/apps etc) there are so many alleged phaedos around and some of these girls are not even teens (i blame the spice girls)and some dressing provocitivly and have you seen some of the latest slogans on tshirts and tops now?

saw some in a shop window this morn....'slut and proud' 'playboy bunny' and the like.

its one thing to be trendy but another to look like a glamour model???? and the 'role models'....the towie/jordan lot?

oh marj the old grumpy judge is back......

ppeatfruit Tue 09-Apr-13 09:30:46

The media is to blame for a lot of it marj but although it's frightening to know that there are a lot of perverts about; its better than being completely ignorant which we were in the 60s (think of all the Saville/priest scandals it was certainly going on then) the DCs were scared to speak out which they're not now. (Hopefully)

IKWYM about idolising glamour models (I agree it's mindless and so are they) but it really isn't any different now to how we were about Marilyn Monroe.

We were discussing this at work the other day. Yes, there's the sunbed massive (I'm in Glasgow) and there has been for a long time, but I think a lot of the teen girls round here look lovely! Lots of them wear great day dresses, seem to just throw their hair back and it looks great, checked shirts, nice jeans. They're a hell of a lot more chic than I was at their age! And at least a lot of them seem to be letting their eyebrows look fairly natural (Cara Delevingne style). When I was their age (late 90s), it was plucked chicken brows. And hideous combat trousers. Chokers. Baaad straightened hair with terrible highlights. We didn't have access to Uniqlo or Zara or any of the reasonably priced shops with lovely stuff that girls do now.

marjproops Tue 09-Apr-13 21:39:40

laughed my socks off today in town. a group of yoofs were running to/from somewhere and one of thems trousers that were already halfway down his legs fell down to his ankles! he splatted down.

thing is he was embarrased....but not so embarrassed to show his pants?????

ppeatfruit Wed 10-Apr-13 07:57:40

Oh that fashion (the baggy arse showing trousers) has been around for SO long grin they must really enjoy pissing off the grown ups with it grin; There was a funny sketch on Miranda showing the lads unable to run and falling over wearing them.

marriedinwhiteagain Wed 10-Apr-13 08:09:59

That one's fading out now though isn't it? It is in London where the girls are wearing fawn leggings with skimpy tops and you do a double take of OMG she's naked from the waist down - eeow. Or where the ones with the biggest legs have been wearing fairisle woolly tights with long belts.

melika Wed 10-Apr-13 08:16:52

The thing is I couldn't afford what they have now if I had tried. I couldn't afford a mobile, to run it etc. I only got my hair cut once in a blue moon, certainly would not of afforded GHD straighteners, make up or clothes. I had hand me downs from neighbours, even a cousin who lived in USA sent her left offs.

Mom was widowed when I was 15, but even when Dad was alive he was bread winner with a family of 5 kids to feed, house and look after.

I feel jealous of kids today, with their fake Louis Vitton bags, I wouldn't even of got one of those. I was a teen in the 80's and I missed out on a hell of a lot by the sounds of it.

Oblomov Wed 10-Apr-13 08:27:36

Laughing ta the pressure to look like Lady Di or Madonna.

Yes I do think its crummy these days. Lads have seen porna dn think you should be 'hair-free', and you won't get a job, (because apparently there are less)or a house, even if you have got a spray tan and extensions. so those hair extensions will eb the only extension you get, coz yopur'll never get the chance to do a house one.
How depressing.

marriedinwhiteagain Wed 10-Apr-13 08:28:10

But can you have what you want now Melika?

ppeatfruit Wed 10-Apr-13 08:33:54

Poor or not Melika DD2 loves the 'chassers' or charity shops she buys and wears lots of her clothes from them so in a way nowadays the DCs have the option of dressing in a cheap retro style so there's more flexibility.

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