To really HATE (yes, hate) David Cameron?

(99 Posts)
vivizone Fri 05-Apr-13 17:39:16

Hate is such a strong emotion but it's the only thing I feel for him. Charmless, idiotic bastard. But hey, him and his family are alright. Must be lovely not to worry about keeping your kids warm eh Dave?

I absolutely hate him.

www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/05/pm-osborne-linking-philpott-welfare
PM backs Osborne over comments linking Philpott case to welfare
David Cameron says chancellor is right to question role of welfare in 'subsidising lifestyles' such as Mike Philpott's

Bowlersarm Fri 05-Apr-13 17:42:19

YABU to hate him for supporting his right hand man. Don't you think Ed Miliband would support Ed Balls?

Chipstick10 Fri 05-Apr-13 18:11:11

Urrrgggg ed balls is my pet hate. Millipead likewise. Millipead would love to dump balls but lacks the....balls.

YouTheCat Fri 05-Apr-13 18:12:42

Vivi, I shall join you in your hate.

StephaniePowers Fri 05-Apr-13 18:14:49

Ive no desire to hate. But I do despise.

I despise everyone who can't see what's going on tbh.

Yeah I hate him and Gideon. I don't think Labour are any better any more though sad

GrowSomeCress Fri 05-Apr-13 18:17:48

I don't particularly hate him, I have a mild dislike of most politicians whatever party they're from

Yanbu. At all.

CandlestickOlder Fri 05-Apr-13 18:18:26

Yanbu

ParsingFancy Fri 05-Apr-13 18:20:15

Going for nausea, here.

And fear. It must seem so clever, for their short term gain, mustn't it?

Those who do not read history, are doomed to repeat it.

CloudsAndTrees Fri 05-Apr-13 18:20:47

YABU

pansyflimflam Fri 05-Apr-13 18:23:06

I hate him too and Gideon, they are cunts even though I know I diminish my own argument by being sweary The Government are in a tight spot pushing stuff through so I am afraid PR wise the gloves are off!! Nothing is off limits it seems......................

YouTheCat Fri 05-Apr-13 18:24:28

But it's okay to commit to £20 billion for bloody Trident.

Twats - the whole coalition are a great big bunch of twats.

pansyflimflam Fri 05-Apr-13 18:25:39

Don't even get me started on bloody Trident - Hear hear YouTheCat

GrowSomeCress Fri 05-Apr-13 18:27:09

Do the people posting on here that they "despise" and "hate" DC or whatever have the same feelings about the Labour politicians, who are just as awful?

YouTheCat Fri 05-Apr-13 18:27:49

Some of them, yes.

Chipstick10 Fri 05-Apr-13 18:27:51

I don't like any politicians. Sometimes I feel very anti establishment. Some irritate me more than others and some I actively hate. It was lovely during the Olympics and there was no news about anything other than how brill we were at different sports. We didn't have to see or hear any of them. We did ok without them. They are loathesome..

YouTheCat Fri 05-Apr-13 18:29:26

We had to see Osborne during the Olympics but then he got booed. grin

YokoUhOh Fri 05-Apr-13 18:29:57

Cameron would do well to remember that his party doesn't hold an overall majority. The 'coalition' will be out on its arse at the next election, but not before the damage has been done.

Chipstick10 Fri 05-Apr-13 18:32:52

grin yes he did get booed, that was a good moment. I'm sure the coalition will be out at next election but I can't see labour winning an overall either. Think it might be another coalition.

GrowSomeCress Fri 05-Apr-13 18:33:56

Chipstick10

There was quite a bit of Boris though wasn't there? grin

YaNbu.

I would like to say I only despise him and everything he stands for but I just fucking hate everything he stands for, and his cronies in the ConDems and I despise the fact there are 23 millionaires in the cabinet - how can they represent us fairly?

WildeRumpus Fri 05-Apr-13 18:36:31

yanbu. I cannot stand it when he comes on the tv but unfortunately for my work (criticising his bastard self) I have to watch and listen until my ears bleed sad

WildeRumpus Fri 05-Apr-13 18:37:38

labour are beggared until the get an identity imo.

ohhh it all makes me weep with frustration.

Chipstick10 Fri 05-Apr-13 18:39:30

growsome I'm slightly blush to say, I wuf boris a a bit.

Viviennemary Fri 05-Apr-13 18:40:34

I don't hate him. I think Milliband and Harriet harman are much more annoying and out of touch. Labour is finished for the forseeable future until they get somebody decent as leader.

lolaflores Fri 05-Apr-13 18:41:53

to hate DC and Co. specifically is quite reasonable given their all out attack on the welfare state and what it seems to represent to them. To whit, the poor, weak and vulnerable being cared for at some expense to the nation. Though as someone noted, spending 20 billion on a fucking weapon is not the same thing at all. Oh no. Thats our defense. In actual fact it is putting money in the pockets of the same people who support these artless fuckers and will continue to do so when they are out of power.
Someone refered to us living in a "conservative Narnia Winter" and they could not have put it better. I hated Maggie Thatcher with every fibre of my self righteious little 19 year old heart, but she was just the mother ship for this breed of fuckers. To have watched the wholesale destruction of the heavy industry of this country and the communities that went with which this crew are now effectively polishing off is soul destroying. Those areas now with the highest crime, drug use, welfare dependance are most likely the skeletal remains of Her Legacy in the 80's and 90's. It is a form of social murder. And some fucker out there voted for them

Lucyellensmum95 Fri 05-Apr-13 18:42:49

He is an utter cunt with no handle on reality whatsoever, its like a big game of monopoly to him, and he's losing while the banker continues to cheat.

lolaflores Fri 05-Apr-13 18:45:23

Come the revolution Sisters and Mumsnetters! How to overthrow a government and pick the kids up on time. I am sure Rosa Luxembourg had this worked out. But you see? Keep the people off balance and too focused on putting food on the table and the revolution will be cancelled.

YouTheCat Fri 05-Apr-13 18:46:15

Lola, if only there was a like facility.

I was 9 when Thatcher got in the first time. I remember all too well.

Chipstick10 Fri 05-Apr-13 18:47:30

Yy to Harriet harperson and millipead. Ooh I did a little shiver thinking of them.

mumofthemonsters808 Fri 05-Apr-13 18:54:53

I don't hate him, I just think he is an upperclass twit,regardless of him being Prime Minister he is the typical stereotype of a wealthy,slimey public school boy.I immensely dislike his body language,the way he speaks, even the way he looks and dresses(especially his casual look).I find him very false and insincere and I detest the way he pretends to care. Having said that I find Ed Milliband painful, I can not for the life of me understand why his brother was not voted for leader.I will never vote again untill there is someone worth voting for.

Little shiver? <cute>I do a huge vomit thinking about the 23 millionaire members of the cabinet (most of whom inherited their wealth) who claim we are 'all in this together' whilst cutting the income of the most vulnerable members of society, (ie the disabled) who have no chance of ever being able to 'work their way out of poverty'.

StephaniePowers Fri 05-Apr-13 18:58:23

Something makes me very uncomfortable about the word 'Millipead'.
Is it meant to have that echo of badly-spelled 'peado'?
I don't love Milliband but I can't get behind that as a nickname sad

Also, lolaflores, go sister!

Snoopingforsoup Fri 05-Apr-13 18:59:18

I hate him too.
He's so shit he couldn't even get a majority vote after Labour had spectacularly bombed out of fashion.
Hate away. I think he's a clueless chancer despite his privilege and posh education.
I wish just for one day his mate Gideon would look interested in his job too. Where is the man's enthusiasm?

ChompieMum Fri 05-Apr-13 19:08:36

I have to say that it is VERY VERY disappointing that he has jumped onto this too. Mr Cameron if your advisers are reading this (and they will be monitoring sites like this) you have really let yourself down by trying to capitalise on this. Phillpot was responsible for killing his children, the courts are responsible for punishing him and YOU are responsible for trying to make political capital on unrelated issues from this tragedy. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the benefit system, you should be ashamed of yourself.

BMW6 Fri 05-Apr-13 19:11:11

YANBU - I expect he would hate you too grin

Chipstick10 Fri 05-Apr-13 19:14:08

Eh?!!! Millipead is one of those weird insects. Wot has a paedo got to do with it?

Tanith Fri 05-Apr-13 19:17:54

A Millipede is an insect.

Millipead is a childish attempt at punning a politician's name.

Viviennemary Fri 05-Apr-13 19:20:10

People who think Labour are going to sweep into power at the next election are in for a big shock. At elections votes count not who can shout the loudest or give the most insults.

Chipstick10 Fri 05-Apr-13 19:22:26

Totally gobsmacked and speechless at the attempt to turn my comment into something it's not. Have already stated on another thread several times that I have difficulty spelling. Always have had always will. Some kind mumsnetters on here have often pulled me up on my spelling, not humiliating at all.

Chipstick10 Fri 05-Apr-13 19:25:08

Agree Vivienne. Sick of all the point scoring with no real answers or alternatives.

StephaniePowers Fri 05-Apr-13 19:31:21

I'm glad it's a spelling mistake, otherwise it was a truly horrible nickname.
I don't really see him as a millipede, more a Nick Park creation grin

BMW6 Fri 05-Apr-13 19:35:35

I'm glad it's a spelling mistake, otherwise it was a truly horrible nickname.

Oh yes, MUCH worse than calling Tories evil & scum ........ hmm

GrowSomeCress Fri 05-Apr-13 19:49:03

But the milli"pead" mispelling doesn't refer to paedophilia - that would be mill"paed" confused

StephaniePowers Fri 05-Apr-13 19:50:54

People do misspell it though, that's what I thought was happening.

Anyway, back to hating the Tories...

Actually I agree with Chipstick10 that all politicians are basically loathsome these days. Vile lot.

Viviennemary Fri 05-Apr-13 20:01:09

Quite. GrowSomeCress. Glad to see the voice of reason from at least some people.

GrowSomeCress Fri 05-Apr-13 20:08:17

BMW6 made a very good point too

marjproops Fri 05-Apr-13 20:08:45

its the double standards that get me. because of bloody philpott EVERYONE on benefits is just like him, yet meanwhile, scameron and his minions are lining THEIR OWN pockets and all their expenses/second homes/luxury lifestyles/nannies/harrods shopping all the while saying 'were all in this together'.

its the hipocrisy.

theyre cutting jobs/benefits etc left right and centre....why dont they start with THEMSELVES? meanwhile they give themselves pay rises.

Aaaaarrrrggghhhh! and breathe.....

flatpackhamster Fri 05-Apr-13 20:09:47

Ahh, politics thread in AIBU again. How nice.

marjproops Fri 05-Apr-13 20:11:15

and what lapsedsays about the disabled...and heres one disabled hand going up.

LilyLovesRoses Fri 05-Apr-13 20:22:44

labour are beggared until the get an identity imo.

I very much hope Labour never get into power again.

ouryve Fri 05-Apr-13 20:24:59

Cameron is a disingenuous twit who has worked rather too hard on perfecting the obviously fake sincerity. He would be laughable if he didn't have so much power with so little mandate. The people he's surrounded himself with as his cabinet are no better. For the millions of pounds that have collectively been spent on their education, most of them come across as pretty dim. I sometimes think that Spitting image ought to be revived, but then the realisation that they're such caricatures of themselves already kicks in - no Spitting Image required.

I have mixed feelings about some of the current Labour front bench. Not about David Milliband not being voted leader, though. Labour needed to move to the left. They still need to move to the left. I also think they need to find a pro-active voice instead of always being on the defensive and relying on the sharp wit of activists to fight their corner.

ediblewoman Fri 05-Apr-13 20:45:29

Flatpack, most politicians are so unreasonable that surely this topic is

ediblewoman Fri 05-Apr-13 20:45:49

Oops, perfect

Chipstick10 Fri 05-Apr-13 20:46:49

I would put a bet on a few millionaires in the shadow cabinet. Ed mill for starters. Harriet harperson definitely, maybe balls and his mrs combined.

sansastark Fri 05-Apr-13 20:50:18

The best thing I can find to say about David F**king Cameron is that he isn't George F**king Osborne.

But no, I quite agree, I have never hated a political leader more in all my life (and I'm old enough to have experienced four of them :-)

Viviennemary Fri 05-Apr-13 21:33:58

Hariet Harman is from one of the wealthiest families in the land. Which is why she hasn't a clue about ordinary people and is full of pie in the sky theories. Why on earth do Labour have these people in such important positions if they want to be taken seriously.

GrowSomeCress Fri 05-Apr-13 21:37:37

But remember Vivienne she's not an evil tory scum murderer or whatever grin

marjproops Fri 05-Apr-13 21:40:48

Im not really clued up on the integrity of the people Im going to mention but labour....wasnt it about the working man?

was it (forgive my complete denseness, this was childhood and politics wernt uppermost in mind as a child!) the likes of Arthur Scargill, (thats the only one i remember) and the miners etc etc and he knew what it was like?

please someone educate me on past politics.! Wilson?

and would you say maybe Churchill (the man not the dog!) was possibly the best pM ever? I dont know what Im talking about BTW confused

StephaniePowers Fri 05-Apr-13 21:45:34

I'm not naive enough to think that there was really, truly some sort of 'golden era' of perfectly decent and honourable politicians, but wtf is going on when all those in power so beautifully represent the demographic of the super rich, AND bring in policies which can only benefit those super rich? And are SO lamentably undertrained in real life? Not party specific, it's just that this govt is ALSO running a campaign to utterly disempower the non-wealthy and make the middlingly wealthy just grateful not to be too hard done by.

I lost faith in Labour a long time ago, so I have almost no time for them either though Helen Goodman could win my vote for seeing how the other half live.

Viviennemary Fri 05-Apr-13 21:48:16

I just looked her up. Two of her children went to selective schools. I find this kind of pathetic hypocrisy in Labour politicians really sickening. I think she is the politican I most dislike.

But that dreadful Hazel Blears who maximised to the greatest benefit her housing arrangements. Buying and selling to gain public money. And Jacquie of the living in the spare room of her sisters house fame. They are greedy people. And should have been slung out of the Labour party. But they were not. Says montains.

Viviennemary Fri 05-Apr-13 21:49:38

'mountains'!

itsnothingoriginal Fri 05-Apr-13 21:50:24

YANBU but I detest Osbourne and Gove more.

It's repulsive what they are doing to divide the country at the moment and pick on vulnerable groups of people to take out the mistakes of the wealthy on. I see first hand what damage cuts are doing to people in real need.

I genuinely don't know how they sleep at night but I know they will find many ways to justify their actions.

countrykitten Fri 05-Apr-13 21:56:00

Why is is hypocritical of Labour politicians to send their kids to selective schools?

YellowandGreenandRedandBlue Fri 05-Apr-13 21:57:05

With Labour 10 points ahead in the polls and a >10% showing for UKIP, I can't see any factual basis for the claim made upthread that 'Labour won't win' - if the election were tomorrow they would have a very big majority.

StephaniePowers - that just sums up the tragedy. ALL politicians seem to be cut from the same cloth nowadays.

So many MPs their families and their entire peer group (Tory, Liberal AND Labour) NEVER use the public services and public sector infrastructure that the vast majority of us depend on, such as the NHS, state schools, public transport, public libraries, local post offices, Council-run leisure facilities (such as swimming pools, gyms, sports clubs for youngsters) and no-one else within their orbit does either.

They don't know anyone who is 50+, long-term unemployed following redundancy and facing a life on the scrap heap because employers won't even consider you. All their jobs are obtained through the Old Boy network. They aren't trying to live on £53 per week Carer's allowance while they look after elderly or disabled relatives. They can buy in care.

They ALL have private health insurance, use private schools and healthclubs and drive (or are driven) everywhere. They can buy books instead of borrowing them and have internet acess at home.

How many of them have ever had to battle with an inefficient underfunded Inland Revenue, CSA or Benefits Agency themselves, rather than pay others (accountants, lawyers) to sort out their financial and legal affairs? Or been completely dependent on public transport to get to a Post Office to cash their pensions or giros?

limitedperiodonly Fri 05-Apr-13 22:23:38

Currently I hate Ian Duncan-Smith most and that's going to last for some time.

They're followed in descending order of hatefulness by:

Gideon
Dave/Boris
Shapps
May
Lansley/Pickles
Soubry
Various faceless expenses fiddlers

GrowSomeCress Fri 05-Apr-13 22:27:27

countrykitten because some of them complain that private schools are terribible because they give privileged people unfair advantages

but it's okay for their own children grin

GrowSomeCress Fri 05-Apr-13 22:28:19

oops sorry countrykitten, read private schools somehow rather than selective schools! similar response could stand, but probably not to the same extent

magimedi Fri 05-Apr-13 22:28:34

I am guilty of the 'not having read the whole thread' sin.

YANBU to hate Dave - but I am old & please reserve some of your hatred for the one who was the worst of all - Maggie.

GrowSomeCress Fri 05-Apr-13 22:28:43

also not sure how I ended up with "terribible" grin

Clawdy Fri 05-Apr-13 22:29:31

It's that puffy plump self-satisfied face.....

countrykitten Fri 05-Apr-13 22:30:47

Ok but that's not Labour party policy is it? Not heard them raging against private schools lately....

limitedperiodonly Fri 05-Apr-13 22:33:34

I've just realised that I don't hate Nick Clegg, Vince Cable and Danny Alexander that much. It must be because they don't matter.

marjproops Fri 05-Apr-13 22:34:11

LapsedPacifistgets my vote come next election grin actually desppite grin emoticon, im serious.

countrykitten Fri 05-Apr-13 22:37:01

Also I wish that if people were going to have a pop at politicians they should leave their backgrounds out of it. If you were ranting about someone being disgustingly working class it would seem unreasonable to many on here who happily support what they see as 'toff bashing'.

It is cheap and easy point scoring and it does little to enhance your arguments. And don't say it's relevant because they don't understand how us poor people live - don't delude yourselves! Of course they understand - they are politicians and that's their job. The just don't care.

StephaniePowers Fri 05-Apr-13 22:40:10

LapsedPacifist

It's not just politicians. I had a time of being unemployed and verging on poverty which I got out of because I was young and my family helped me. I am now 'established middle' (arf) with corresponding social group and they have not a clue how easy it is for this to come about and then spiral downwards. It is laughable to listen to the assumptions they make about my moral fibre or the value of my education. Quite simply my family gave me some money so I didn't have to continue working on a zero hours contract for just enough per week money to pay rent and eat. My contemporaries will not accept that I had that advantage. Apparently anyone and everyone can get out of the poverty trap. hmm

StephaniePowers Fri 05-Apr-13 22:43:51

Countrykitten, but it is entirely relevant if people have had a privileged upbringing. It's another bloody world! Same soil, entirely different existence. I do not want privileged politicians. I want politicians who have bloody WORKED with all sorts of people and who are not interested in pandering to the needs of either the rich or the poor, but in making a fair country where we are not in thrall to landowners, financial institutions or anyone else who represents the interests of the very, very limited.

countrykitten Fri 05-Apr-13 22:48:49

I can think of a politician who kind of fits the bill in your description SP.

The very, very privileged and rather wonderful Tony Benn. But presumably he doesn't work for you as you think that people cannot see beyond their own upbringings?

StephaniePowers Fri 05-Apr-13 22:50:09

Tony Benn is quite obviously one of life's great exceptions grin
Not entirely relevant to contemporary politics, sadly.

countrykitten Fri 05-Apr-13 22:55:18

But relevant to the point that you were making surely?

In fact what we need is exceptional leaders - I couldn't give a damn about someone's background if they are a person with integrity and a great leader. It is silly (imo) to assume that a person who has had an average or poor upbringing will be a better leader than one who has grown up around privilege.

The fact is the Labour,Tory, Lib Dem, Green, UKIP etc are packed to the gills with the unexceptional and I think that THIS is the real issue.

joannita Fri 05-Apr-13 22:57:46

yanbu he is a slimy toerag and it was reasonable to hate him even before he came out with this.

I don't even want to think about the depths of ignorance betrayed by some of my so-called friends and relatives about how 'Those People' live. You know, The Others. The ones it's OK to blame and hate.

The awful remarks about 'single parents' - even DH was guilty of that on one (and only one!) occasion, and he actually MARRIED one (me!) The looks of blank amazement when I pull family members up ('but we don't mean people like YOU!! shock You aren't one of THEM' - meaning a promiscuous illiterate teenager. Sneers about benefit claimants, forgetting that DH and I spent our first year of married life on the dole after we were both made redundant. He spent a year on sickness benefit too after a serious motorbike accident.

I've actually stopped caring what they think any more and have started posting really snarky and highly political shit all over Facebook. The responses I've been getting from certain people have been errr, enlightening to say the least. hmm

Is it empathy by-pass or just a total failure of imagination? It should be so simple really. Just walk a mile in someone's shoes.

infamouspoo Sat 06-Apr-13 09:18:26

they are all knobs although I did catch my MP in hospital in his PJ's having an op. Only normal MP Ive ever met. Asda PJ's too grin. He wont be living those down in a hurry.

infamouspoo Sat 06-Apr-13 09:19:15

and yes, I did give him a hard time for voting to destroy the NHS while he was all vunerable wink

YouTheCat Sat 06-Apr-13 11:22:40

Good for you, Infamous.

ShellyBoobs Sat 06-Apr-13 11:53:38

I very much hope Labour never get into power again.

Me too.

CrapBag Sat 06-Apr-13 12:13:40

YANBU.

His fucking welfare reform bollocks attacking decent people and not the actual scrougers is now having quite a devastating effect on my familys life now. I am actually despairing at what we are going to do. But DC and his cronies don't actually give a shit about us do they!

countrykitten Sat 06-Apr-13 12:47:34

LapsedPacifist so you are now so highly politicised and motivated to change the world that you are posting things on FB. confused Way to go!

Viviennemary Sat 06-Apr-13 13:25:08

Tony Benn is indeed one of the exceptions. And good for him. However, most Labour politicians are absolutely as greedy, selfish and hungry for money as Tory ones. MP's expenses were certainly proof of that.

lottieandmia Sat 06-Apr-13 13:32:15

YANBU - he and Osborne are both despicable human beings. If the tories do manage to win next time I'll bet it won't be with him as leader. Even his own party don't like him.

WafflyVersatile Sat 06-Apr-13 13:35:19

Hate is not a strong enough emotion.

countrykitten Sat 06-Apr-13 13:37:30

Vivienne who has argued otherwise?

RVPisnomore Sat 06-Apr-13 13:39:54

YABVU

Viviennemary Sat 06-Apr-13 14:32:53

Otherwise from what countrykitten. Did you mean argued that nearly all polilticians are selfish, greedy and out for themselves. Or was it something else. I'm losing the plot or lost it. grin

countrykitten Sat 06-Apr-13 15:47:29

Other than all politicians are as you describe (apart from a very few). I think most agree on this?

MsTakenidentity Sat 06-Apr-13 15:52:35

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