To feel scared that there is something huge and scary up in the loft

(57 Posts)
Shelly32 Wed 03-Apr-13 20:51:12

Since Christmas I've heard loud scrabbling at night over our bedroom. DH thought it may have been a bird. I didn't and convinced him to put a mouse and rat trap up there. Today while near the loft, whatever is up there loudly banged/scrabbled/trampled over the loft hatch. DH came hoe and checked the traps. Both have been set off and emptied of chocolate (no jokes about the Easter bunny being up there please) and I'm thinking that there has to be something pretty huge up there to set off a rat trap and not get caught in it. Should I get the exterminators in or is that a no brainer...

quoteunquote Wed 03-Apr-13 20:54:55

squirrels ?

What's the outside of your building like?

we have bats in ours so if we set traps we would be fined.

Iamsparklyknickers Wed 03-Apr-13 20:55:03

Animals are clever little buggers - a fair few of them seem to laugh in the face of man made traps grin

I'd get a professional in, they'll know how to spot if it's rats, squirels or birds. They'll probably also want to sort out any neighbours who share your roof space - so I hope you're not in a terrace!

SarahAndFuck Wed 03-Apr-13 20:55:56

Could it be Christopher Eccleston and a big pile of money?


HandMini Wed 03-Apr-13 20:56:50

I would bet its a squirrel. They are bloody noisy and need specialist traps, so a rat trap wouldn't have worked. Get some professional exterminators in.

CockyFox Wed 03-Apr-13 20:58:10

Next doors cat? Apparantly that happened at my great gran's house butshe was known for exagerating so probably not true.

WeAreSix Wed 03-Apr-13 20:58:37

MIL had a squirrel in her loft. The mess, destruction and noise created by one small animal was quite incredible.

If it is a squirrel you'll want it evicted ASAP - MIL's loft was ripped to shreds.


SmiteYouWithThunderbolts Wed 03-Apr-13 20:59:22

Could it be Christopher Eccleston and a big pile of money?


morethanpotatoprints Wed 03-Apr-13 21:00:35

Could be owls, bats, rats, squirrels.
You won't know unfortunately until you get a pro to look at it.
Rats follow a line and scratch and make a tapping noise as they move around.
Are you town or country as this could be an indicator.
Yes bats are a protected species so be careful what you exterminate.
Your council will come and look free of charge, especially if you tell them you think its rats.

Shelly32 Wed 03-Apr-13 21:01:26

No, we're not in a terrace but we are semi-detached. My DH has had a good look around and can't see any places an animal that could make that much noise could get in on our side. I'll go see the neighbours tomorrow to see if they've heard/noticed anything.
It could be squirrels as we live in quite a rural area. It's a wild stab in the dark but I have a feeling that one of our cats may have dragged something in over Christmas, let it go and it climbed into one of the decoration bags that we then put up in the loft. Although, saying that, surely something like a rat would have made itself known as we lifted it up into the loft.
Whatever it is sounds large so I'm thinking a rat or squirrels. I can't think of anything else it could be. Whatever it is, I don't like the thought of it in the house..esp not if it's nicking all the chocolate out of the traps and laughing at me!

Shelly32 Wed 03-Apr-13 21:11:20

If only it was Christopher Eccleston! wink

SarahAndFuck Wed 03-Apr-13 21:19:18

Check for drill holes OP, that's all I'm saying.

You never know when you might have a loft full of Christopher Eccleston and a big pile of money. But if you happen to trip over Ewan McGregor pinned to your floor, I think that will prove it conclusively.



Shelly32 Wed 03-Apr-13 21:25:38

70isaLimit That's why the Chinese takeaway keep delivering no. 27 and no. 53 to our house. He must have access to a phone up there!

CarpeVinum Wed 03-Apr-13 21:28:28

Rats follow a line and scratch and make a tapping noise as they move around.

OR they make the most godawful noise while they play volleyball with a half brick they have managed to free from the chimney stack.

The bastards.

Put poisen up there. Covered in peanut butter.

Don't use the sticky traps. In fact don't even mention sticky traps or some poster will come on and tell you about how they try and escape the sticky trap, with free extra details about the screaming they do during drastic escape attempt.... and you will never sleep again

KateShmate Wed 03-Apr-13 21:29:24

Birds are really really noisy when they're in the loft, and they can get in tiny holes too. My bets are on a bird.

Shelly32 Wed 03-Apr-13 21:34:55

CarpeVinum Hahaha! The traps have now got peanut butter in them and if this doesn't work, it'll have to be a visit from the council (£35). I'm pretty sure they use poison and will also clean up anything that needs cleaning. I'm a bit wary of just sticking poison down myself...don't ask me why as it's prob no less cruel than having your neck snapped in a trap (not that it did much neck snapping last time!)

Shelly32 Wed 03-Apr-13 21:36:38

KateShmate I'd be fine if it was birds roosting up there but there is an awful lot of scratching and scampering and pounding going on. Plus earlier, I heard something run over the loft hatch and I'm not sure a bird would do that.

Chocoflump Wed 03-Apr-13 21:37:26


Numerous scary movies have the big scary thing living in the loft sad

Shelly32 Wed 03-Apr-13 21:39:48

chocoflump This comment in addition to the 'Haunted House' thread will not do my nerves any good! grin

Ilovemydogandmydoglovesme Wed 03-Apr-13 21:40:51

It probably is a squirrel. The little bastards get everywhere and make a hell of a noise. Get your council man to bring a special trap. I bet that's what you find in it.

AnOeufUniversallyEggnowledged Wed 03-Apr-13 21:42:59


Many moons ago, when I was a teenager on exam leave, I was terrified in our family home as I could hear 'someone walking around upstairs' every day. My mum told me I was imagining things... until she was home sick one day and also heard it.

They make a lot more noise than you'd expect and cause LOTS of damage.

grimbletart Wed 03-Apr-13 21:45:01

Almost certainly a squirrel. They sound as if they have hob nail boots on.

wentshopping Wed 03-Apr-13 21:45:28

In various houses we have had squirrels and mice in the attic. Mice sound like huge creatures the size of badgers in the middle of the night. They can also squeeze through a hole the diameter or a biro. Ours had crawled in through an air brick...
Squirrels do not like the smell of mothballs - to get rid of them in our current house the pest man said to leave mothballs out a couple of days, then block the gap with chicken wire. The squirrels left, and have not been back.

We've had wood mice in our loft. Several times they've tripped the traps and got the food out. And they're noisy buggers. Got rid of 5 so far and heard some scrabbling yesterday.

Shelly32 Wed 03-Apr-13 21:48:42

wentshopping That's good to know as after doing some Googling, once they've made their den , even after removal, they like to come 'home'.

muffinino82 Wed 03-Apr-13 21:49:09

Could it be Christopher Eccleston and a big pile of money?

Possibly my favourite reference so far on Mumsnet grin

wentshopping Wed 03-Apr-13 21:57:34

shelly I was a bit dubious about mothballs, but they have not been back in - there are a lot in all the trees around here - suburban grey squirrels here in the US - I can't imagine they would be too different from UK ones?

CarpeVinum Wed 03-Apr-13 23:21:57


The advantage of poisen is that they are more likely to actually die from it. Snap traps can get more than necks in them.

Former Neighbour decided to waggle at me his big trap with a decapitated (fucking massive, hairless and just horrifying) tail in it. <shudder>

I don't like rats at all. Especially since the time I was being all "chuh, pathetic men" and forced open the chimney cover, all to show off to the more cautious chimney man. Hoards of dead rats rained down on me and bounced everywhere. Causing me to scream, wet myself and leap all over the sofa sobbing hysterically and ruining in my "I feminist, hear me roar (or screech like a terrifed wimp.. it depends on the day)" moment

But tail decapitation... that is too mean even for me. Poor thing probably bleed to death over days or died of a horrible infection from the wound. Poisen isn't exactly peace and love, probably doesn't feel like being kissed all over with a buttery feather intestinally speaking, but possibly less hit and miss.

And it works. Cleared out all the zillions of squatters in my attic.

Bet they hiding somewhere to rain on me again in revenge.

<buys large umbrella for all future renovations>

PelvicFloorClenchReminder Wed 03-Apr-13 23:26:30

I have a Christopher Eccleston trap, I'll be right over!

RevoltingPeasant Wed 03-Apr-13 23:31:32

Is the peanut butter trap for Christopher E or the squirrels?

<loses thread of conversation>

PoppyWearer Wed 03-Apr-13 23:36:38

We had mice and the little bastards kept us awake night after night, I was convinced they were rats.

They cost us a fortune to kill get rid of and it took about six visits from the pest control company. it's ok we don't need a holiday, really [bitter emoticon]

The pest control chap said we had damage in the loft from a previous squirrel infestation (before we bought the place) and showed me a nasty scar he had from a squirrel attack. He said that squirrels are his worst job and cause the most damage.

Bearing in mind that he had just also destroyed a mahoosive amd scary wasp nest in our loft.

OP, I really hope it's not a squirrel!! Do you have a cat you can send up? For some reason our lazy-arse cat loves going up in our loft probably the smell of mice.

DeepPurple Wed 03-Apr-13 23:41:13

We have had mice before and not heard anything until the water pipe was eaten through!

We currently have birds in the chimney and the are seriously noisy. DH'S forgot to put netting over the (unused) chimney after last year.

DeepPurple Wed 03-Apr-13 23:41:39

DH not DH'S! Only the one!

How many children have you got! Can you account for them all?

BuntyPenfold Wed 03-Apr-13 23:54:53

Could be Julian Assange?
or squirrels maybe.

Snowme Thu 04-Apr-13 01:19:31

Chuck a cat up there overnight.

somedayma Thu 04-Apr-13 01:53:20

have you seen paranormal activity? it might be a great big demonic creature with claws

CarpeVinum Thu 04-Apr-13 02:08:42

have you seen paranormal activity?

DH claims that when the rat volleyball with a half brick first started I sat bolt upright in bed and declared there was a zombie in the attic.

I put it down to watching The Walking Deaf last thing before bed and DH being a selfish git by not watching with me so I know when it is safe to come put from behind the TV watching cushion.

A word of warning about shoving a cat up there. It might not want to come back down. And then you have to go up there to get it and deal with horrors like brushing against MASSIVE spider webs, muttering darkly when DH shouts up "watch ut for the zombie" the day after the finale when there was a fucking SWARM of zombies and you still aren't quite back to normal yet.

When I am queen attics will be abolished.

As will rats, spiders' webs, disobediant cats and the showing of zombie programmes after lunchtime.

MsBella Thu 04-Apr-13 02:22:08

I had rats in mine and it literally sounded like a massive creature was JUMPING around and running from one side to another, it is horrible I know. They were getting in up the wysteria (plants growing up front of house) it all stopped when that got chopped down. Anyway rats and mice are always eating the food and somehow not getting trapped, its nothing to worry about but id try looking into other ways of getting rid of them

By the way they CAN'T get to you through the walls, I know its ridiculous of me to say but oh my god I had these crazy fears of them just dropping through the ceiling when I had them in the attic..!

MsBella Thu 04-Apr-13 02:26:42

CarpeVinum!!! I hate rats with a passion, the other day I found myself saying 'why are they allowed to sell these??!' In the pet shop. That is the most horrible story.. ugh!!! <throws up and starts crying>

ChairmanWow Thu 04-Apr-13 04:59:39

Please not Julian Assange. You'd need a huuuuge trap just to fit his ego .

grin at SarahandFuck (great name too). I'd love to have Christopher Eccleston living in my loft. I'd let him in my hatch at night wink

bootsycollins Thu 04-Apr-13 05:11:14

I reckon it's that puppet on a bike from the Saw film.

alwayslateforwork Thu 04-Apr-13 05:20:05

We have squirrels.

Don't be too sure they can't get through fecking walls. Last hallowe'en (I kid you not) I was sitting watching the box at about 10 pm when suddenly dd2 did 'the scream' face and the silent horror point over my shoulder.

Fecker squirrel was sitting on the back of the armchair.

Last year I made dh cut a hole in the wall to find them. He found 5. Eventually. The first hole proved fruitless so I made him cut a second one. I would have carried out and cut the whole fecking house apart, so adamant was I they were to be evicted.

They launched out like demons and we spent about an hour shrieking and trying to chase them out the back door whilst they climbed everywhere. Dh kept saying 'my rabies jab is up to date'.

I know they are back. Dh was carpet cleaning upstairs last weekend and I heard the earthquake as they roused from their nice comfy under the floorboard space (overhead) as he passed over. I hear them in the bedroom wall. Bastards.

You know I'm off to buy mothballs.

Pest control say they won't come out if we don't know how they are getting in. We libe in a four storey townhouse on the side of a mountain. I have no fricking clue where they are getting in. Nor do I have a four storey ladder to investigate the roof.

I'm selling the house instead. I may have to repair the wall...

ZacharyQuack Thu 04-Apr-13 05:33:11


Pop a bale of hay up there just in case.

Naysa Thu 04-Apr-13 08:06:12

We have mice. They often steal the bait out traps without them going off. This includes cheese and peanut butter covered chocolate angry

We tried humane traps but they never went in them so now we have little nippers and bait boxes. They got in when we had our cavity wall insulation done and they make one hell of a racket. sad

When we first moved into our house, we would be lying in bed at night and hear this creepy death rattle moaning sound from the loft....for months it freaked the shit out of us. We could only hear it when in the bedroom in the middle of the night. We tried to open the loft only to find it had been nailed shut...FROM THE INSIDE. If anyone has seen Rec/Quarantine, we had visions of some monsters or zombies or whatever up there.

It wasn't until one day when DH was in the garden we discovered that the noise was the old man next door....blowing his nose confused

kungfupannda Thu 04-Apr-13 08:28:22

It's most likely to be mice or rats. They sound far bigger and noisier than you'd expect. We get woodmice in during the winter and they are spectacularly loud. I used to hear something crashing about above the airing cupboard when I was at my desk in the evening - I was convinced a bird had got in somehow. I spoke to the neighbours who used to live in our house and they confirmed it was just the woodmice - they said they used to be sure it was something much bigger, but every time they put poison down, it turned out to be mice and then the noise stopped.

MadBraLady Thu 04-Apr-13 08:32:53

Squirrels, I bet.

Don't try and go up there yourself, they are absolute little psychopaths. Made me see trips to the park in a whole new light.

cherrycarpet Thu 04-Apr-13 08:40:46

Poor you. I'm afraid to say it could be rats. We have just moved out of a rented house and it had rats living in the dormer attic. We caught 15 in five months - horrendous. They were huge and made an unbelievable amount of noise - particularly at night. Running, jumping and gnawing. We also found that they'd started chewing through some electric wires so apart from health concerns they can be a fire hazard too!

I would contact pest control via the council and get them to come and have a look asap. If it is rats you need to get rid of them asap before they become an established colony. They are very clever creatures and we couldn't find out where they were getting in/out of attic. Even had the rat man stumped! Needless to say it caused a lot of stress and we're glad to have moved on from that place. Good luck with sorting it out.

OP has gone quiet. Do you think the attic zombies got her in the night?

alarkthatcouldpray Thu 04-Apr-13 09:02:09

Can I recommend you don't read Tans French's Broken Harbour until the problem is sorted? A very scary novel with this theme!

BatmanLovesVodkaAndCherryade Thu 04-Apr-13 10:03:14

We had rats at school, noisy little sods in the walls of my classroom envy They were fed warfarin and oozed to death. Had to clear their leaky bodies away every morning before school for about a week envy envy

Rofling at CarpeVinum's 'Walking Deaf'...

valiumredhead Thu 04-Apr-13 10:39:36

It'll be a rat or a mouse - they both sound like the roof is falling in they make SO much noise. Traps and poison is the way to go, at least 5 traps and lots of poison.

Shelly32 Thu 04-Apr-13 10:41:14

Haha! Some of these posts have made me laugh!!
Snowme I'm worried that if there is a big rat/squirrel up there, it'll do more damage to the cat than the other way round. Vet bills on top of Rentakill bills don't sound too attractive!
Carpevinum Seen lots of the attic themed horrors and yup, they've been running through my mind! Re; traps, I never thought about severed tails/paws...
DH is going for a proper look around this evening to see if he can find any droppings ...fingers crossed they are not Christopher Eccleston sized!!

Shelly32 Thu 04-Apr-13 20:40:25

Thank you for all the good advice!!

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