to suggest that every MN stops posting links to the Daily Mail

(40 Posts)

(unless you agree with them, in which case go ahead and the rest of us can avoid)

Every day on here people post links to stories in the Mail. The Mail don't care whether you are clicking out of outrage, curiosity or any other reason, they still get the revenue.

If everyone who agrees they've gone too far with today's headline agrees never to post or click on another Daily Mail link, it might only be a small change but it's pretty easy to do and might make MN a nicer place.

TeWiSavesTheDay Wed 03-Apr-13 12:28:25

I agree.

If anyone does want to post a DM link, please warn people! Most posters used to be pretty good but I know others have stopped doing warnings.

I will be pretty damn pissed off if I accidentally click on one at this point.

Salmotrutta Wed 03-Apr-13 12:32:29

Agree totally.

The DM is hardly the last bastion of objective reporting and not even worthy of being used as toilet paper.

It's pretty depressing that anyone even reads that crap and believes it without question.

It's a cynical, nasty rag.

MissAnnersley Wed 03-Apr-13 12:36:14

I agree.

HollyBerryBush Wed 03-Apr-13 12:36:55

I disagree. It's an open forum.

Emilythornesbff Wed 03-Apr-13 12:36:57

Agree wholeheartedly.

I've just seen the front pages of all the red tops in the supermarket. (this is the extent of my newspaper exposurenormally) The DM was outrageous.
Trouble is, I'm pretty sure lots of people will see that as a reasonable assessment of the situation.

sad

Softlysoftly Wed 03-Apr-13 12:37:38

So did they really do that headline? It wasn't confirmed last night? I've not been out and clearly can't click the DM to check!

MissAnnersley Wed 03-Apr-13 12:39:42

I think they did Softly. It wasn't the headline in Scotland's Mail though which I did see in a shop this morning.

HollyBerryBush

I'm appealing more to the posters who post links to them out of outrage. If we click the links they make money. They don't care why people click the links, as long as they make money. The Mail online must be one of the biggest and most successful internet trolls, post something controversial and watch the revenue come in.

aufaniae Wed 03-Apr-13 12:51:28

I agree. The DM's business plan seems to be to act like a giant, provocative troll. It's a very successful business plan too, they are IIRC the biggest news site worldwide, which is shameful sad

But this is exactly because there are so many of us who wouldn't actually buy a paper DM, but link to it in anger.

Don't feed the troll I say!

CloudsAndTrees Wed 03-Apr-13 12:53:56

YANBU.

I also suggest that the extreme lefties on this site stop accusing anyone who disagrees with them as being a DM reader. It's not true, and even if it were, it's not an insult. It's just pathetic.

People on this site are far too obsessed with the DM.

I agree. Just saw the headline on Facebook. Absolutely disgusting!

givemeaclue Wed 03-Apr-13 13:01:47

It is free to click so how do they get revenue per click?

From the advertisers.

Chipstick10 Wed 03-Apr-13 13:06:40

I disagree. It's a free and open forum and its getting a bit tedious. The aggression some people use on here toward anyone who doesn't agree with their views is getting on my norks.

givemeaclue Wed 03-Apr-13 13:20:27

I am with chipstick

kotinka Wed 03-Apr-13 13:36:25

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

HoHoHoNoYouDont Wed 03-Apr-13 13:40:24

I disagree. Perhaps the posters should just make it clear that it is an DM link so DM haters can avoid it. That's sounds fair to me.

givemeaclue Wed 03-Apr-13 13:42:03

To be fair, most people do that

harryhausen Wed 03-Apr-13 13:43:32

I agree with Chipstick too.

I hate/don't read the DM. However I like to know what's being written about and when. If only so I can shrug at it.

Viviennemary Wed 03-Apr-13 13:46:04

I'm against censorship. But on the other hand you hardly ever see links to the Guardian. I don't think I've ever seen one linked to The Times. Maybe a more balanced approach to links would be better.

harryhausen Wed 03-Apr-13 13:50:14

I think that's because the Guardian and the Times rarely have articles that make you go "whaaaat?"

Even though people know that the DM spout rubbish they still like to be enraged by the rubbish.

On FB, quite a few of my friends often link to great guardian articles though. However it tends to be more of a cuppa and a "hmmmm, never thought that until now" articles grin

Salmotrutta Wed 03-Apr-13 13:55:48

YY to that harry!

But unfortunately some people read the crap that the DM spouts and dont bother to find out the other side or a more balanced view.

BumpingFuglies Wed 03-Apr-13 14:03:15

That smacks of censorship OP. If you don't want to read it, don't click on it. It's an open and largely unmoderated forum.

Thewhingingdefective Wed 03-Apr-13 14:07:20

It's not censorship. OP is not suggesting that MN bans links to DM, but is asking that those of us that actively dislike it and don't want to send traffic their way, just don't post links to DM. Those that are happy to post or click links to DM just need to make it clear what it is so others can avoid if they wish. It is just giving people the choice.

HollyBerryBush Wed 03-Apr-13 14:09:54

A random place as any to drop in a comment. Some of you may follow @ Gin O'clock, a spoof site stalking Her Maj.

Gin rips the piss out of a lot of things. Gin posted this morning ""North Korea have blocked one on Twitter. That's the very last straw.""

I don't want to live anywhere where I cannot have freedom to read what I like, say what I like, think what I like. I don't like people chipping away at my liberty to do so in the name of the greater good or some moral crusade. I don't like the though police much either. But I do like living in a democracy.

So I will carry on reading a wide variety of media and posting legal links to anything I deem fit. You may exercise your democratic right to ignore those links.

ChasingDogs Wed 03-Apr-13 14:10:22

YANBU to want to do everything possible to avoid feeding the DM. Unfortunately though, it's already grown to horrific proportions and I fear the only way to really stop it now would be to kill it with fire.

lastSplash Wed 03-Apr-13 14:10:43

Block the links.

It is not censorship - you can still access the crap if you want to.

You can still chat about and argue about what is in the paper, just that direct links from mumsnet won't work.

You can still read the nasty stuff if it is news (as today) as it will nearly always have been reproduced elsewhere to avoid generating profits for the Daily Mail (e.g. as an image or cut 'n; paste).

You could even just have a DAILY MAIL ALERT! colourful thing which makes it stand out when a DM link is in the OP or replies - that would be better than nothing.

It is not about censorship but about not generating advertising revenues for them and fuelling their profits.

quoteunquote Wed 03-Apr-13 14:13:07

It's a fair request to ask people to clearly mark Daily mail links,

It would be very unreasonable not to clearly indicate a DM link,

It's not censorship to allow people to make an informed choice.

Maybe MN could install something so all DM links show, if people are unable to manage themselves.

Not everyone wants to fund vile poison, and it's not nice to be duped into doing so.

Oh no I don't want any posts censored. All I'm suggesting is that the people who don't like the mail stop posting and clicking on links which earn money for the mail. If you like them and want them to keep making money, then post and click as much as you like. If you only click out of curiosity/outrage then recognise that you are paying them (albeit indirectly) to cause you outrage.

kotinka Wed 03-Apr-13 14:16:38

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Lueji Wed 03-Apr-13 14:18:41

Fully agree, in future, please all make sure to post a link for the same news in each of all UK newspapers.

grin

BumpingFuglies Wed 03-Apr-13 14:20:30

I thought everyone already did warn of DM link?

kotinka Wed 03-Apr-13 14:24:46

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

hedgefund Wed 03-Apr-13 14:26:30

people on here rarely posts where the link are from

they just do look here type of links

anyway people will continue to post links without warning though i dont get worked up by dm links myself

Chipstick10 Wed 03-Apr-13 14:44:04

I don't know how to do links but if I did I wouldn't put a warning up. It's ridiculous. I just can't get het up with it all.

TeWiSavesTheDay Wed 03-Apr-13 16:35:57

I find the DM links harder to spot now I use my phone a lot because I can't check the address I'm being sent to before I click.

A lot of posters are great about saying Warning: DM link! Which is great, but thought it was worth reminding those who aren't aware that lots of posters feel strongly about not wanting to give the DM any money!

lainiekazan Wed 03-Apr-13 17:43:13

Pathetic.

Particularly pathetic are those posters who must rush to their computers every morning to scan the DM looking to be outraged and then posting their findings on MN.

Chipstick10 Wed 03-Apr-13 17:46:16

Agreed, and then abusing anyone who isn't as outraged as they or don't want to join their moral crusade.

everlong Wed 03-Apr-13 17:57:54

I agree OP.

But there are people on here who love it. They will not stop posting links.

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