to have a bit of a rant about people who steal school uniform

(125 Posts)
Kiriwawa Mon 01-Apr-13 22:47:19

Yes, I know it's dull and it's been done before.

But I'm just bloody annoyed this evening (doing end of term washing in a slatternly way).

DS has SEN. He's a bit shit at remembering to dress himself properly after PE so quite often comes out without his jumper on. Usually, I realise, we go back and find it and all is well. Because he forgets to put stuff on a lot, we get to root around in lockers and in the school hall and anywhere else he might have left something.

If it's not in the school, it stands to reason that another child has taken it home. So it should come back really shouldn't it, but it bloody doesn't. Last term he had stolen lost 1 jumper. This term, it's 1 jumper and 1 fleece. That's about £40 worth of kit.

I sew nametags in the back of all his clothes and I sew them round all sides. They don't fall out. I can understand that you don't necessarily look at every single item of clothing every week but at the end of term, you surely realise if your child has an extra jumper? Or a frigging fleece which costs £18?

So AIBU to think some parents are thieving fucking bastards? :mad:

Kiriwawa Mon 01-Apr-13 22:48:06

Or even angry

wonderingsoul Mon 01-Apr-13 22:50:24

Ohhhh I feel your pain on this.

Icedcakeandflower Mon 01-Apr-13 22:51:40

YANBU. It's funny how its always the uniform which is in good nick that goes missing.

The annoying thing is when I complain, school and other parents think IBU angry. Apparently, it's just one of those things!

twinklytoes Mon 01-Apr-13 22:52:04

yanbu here we've "lost" every single cardigan bought for my 2 Dds, they are not in lost property and are all labelled with the sewn in fabric labels. 6 cardigans, all "lost" by end of autumn term.

LaQueen Mon 01-Apr-13 22:54:32

Ah, I feel your pain Kiri.

At times I feel like I have clothed DD1's entire class in nice, new uniform. On the rare ocassion she brings home someone else's jumper, blouse, towel, fleece...then I know instantly.

I don't even have to check the name-tag, I just know it isn't hers. I handle, wash, dry and iron her uniform every day. I know exactly what it looks like. Slightly different colour/shape/smell - the list goes on.

I'm sure there will be people along to say that we are BU, and that they're far too busy having a colourful, whizzy, fulfilling, busy life to even notice if their child is in uniform, or not. Let alone if they're wearing their own.

But it pisses me off, because I know there are parents who are chosing to let their DDs walk around wearing items of DD1's uniform they know they haven't paid for, and that aren't theirs angry

Yanbu. Bloody irritating (and expensive). DS's school make you write the name in permanent marker just above the waistband, they and you the pen when you buy the jumpers. That way, the name can't be cut out/ fall off/ be mangled by anyone. Also the teachers know where to look for the name. Seemed a bit obsessive to me at first, but it seems to work!

hwjm1945 Mon 01-Apr-13 22:55:22

We lost a very nice quite pricey water bottle dh brought DD2 back when working abroad,left in school hall during function.looked for it immediately,never handed in.named and very distinctive,so someone at our lovely infant school has had it.not a nice feeling

WorraLiberty Mon 01-Apr-13 22:56:42

YANBU and it's a problem that's getting worse at my DS's school.

My DS forgets his fleece a lot in the warm weather because he takes it off and leaves it in the playground or the classroom.

He lost the last one for a couple of months and then when I was looking through lost property for something completely different, I found his missing fleece. You could tell it has been well worn (he'd only got 3 wears out of it before he lost it).

I knew it was his because even though the label had been cut out, I had also initialled a tiny label inside one of the pockets with permanent marker.

I think some parents cant afford school uniform so will steal/not return others...and some just get so fed up of paying out for non returned uniforms that they think if you can't beat 'em join 'em...and they too take anything that fits from lost property.

Willdoitinaminute Mon 01-Apr-13 22:57:38

Do you have an email list of parents of children in his year? Email a polite note re missing kit it usually works.
After politely waiting for expensive kit to reappear I now use polite email to jog their memories. DS always seems to lose brand new kit at the beginning of term and he is at a school where you wouldn't expect people to knick uniform but they obviously do!
I text other mums when I find stray kit in DS bag. I also have a friend who has had labels done with her mobile no. on as well as DC name. Take longer to sew in but no excuse for not letting her know.

Wolfiefan Mon 01-Apr-13 22:57:53

Hmmm. DS once came home with his shoes looking really ragged. We replaced them. Weeks later a parent approached me to say my son had their DS's shoes. Quite rudely. I told them we had done them a favour as the shoes in question had a hole in them and had to be replaced!
But why is named clothing not returned? Surely when it is washed the parents notice the name?

Kiriwawa Mon 01-Apr-13 22:58:47

I'm glad I'm not alone. Actually I'm not glad, it's crap.

Six cardis? Bloody hell!

When the fleece got nicked, he ran after some kid in his class who was wearing a fleece, shouting 'G has stolen my fleece!' but G didn't seem inclined to give it up and his mum is a bit scary and I wasn't sure if it was DS clutching at straws.

Ages ago, I read here about doing secret identifiable stitching somewhere and I thought it was entirely bonkers. Now it's starting to seem quite rational

Mumsyblouse Mon 01-Apr-13 22:59:31

I quite like the idea of writing in washproof pen on the jumper itself, writing on the label seems to have no effect at all on them being taken. I am with LaQueen I can always tell which is our stuff immediately. One year a child went off with my dd's brand new shoes and left her with some several month old not quite identical ones. We never did find the culprit (who must have been smug as anything with their slightly bigger nice new shoes).

LaQueen Mon 01-Apr-13 23:01:05

Yes, I agree on this ice. DD1 wears really cheap Asda trackie bottoms, which she wears for outdoors PE, when it's really cold...they're typically a bit battered/stained (although washed every week) and these have never gone missing, not in 5.5 years of her being at school.

But, 3 John Lewis navy cardigans, all lost in the Autumn term. All with her name sewn in. Never appeared in Lost Property. Nothing angry

Startail Mon 01-Apr-13 23:04:32

That reminds me, I have some very muddy trainers, DD2 was given for a football match. One of hers has vanished. Im sure no one has pinched one trainer, but it doesn't change the fact I'll probably end up buying a new pair.

Kiriwawa Mon 01-Apr-13 23:04:37

Our school jumpers are navy so you can't write on the jumper but I guess I could on the label. I've never wanted to on the basis that I can pass it on.

Ha - yes so true about the cheap stuff. DS has swapped his Tesco trackie bottoms with another kid's Asda ones (and the teacher has written DS's name in them when I know for a fact that they're not his) but I don't care - they're much of a muchness.

Logoed jumpers at £9 a pop however, I do care about.

RoomForASmallOne Mon 01-Apr-13 23:09:36

Crested school uniform/ track suits here (Ireland)

Track suits are e45- e60

My DD has had 2 track suit jackets stolen.

Drives me insane.

Her name is very unusual here and was written in wash proof pen (she had added flowers and all sorts) on the inside.

If she came home with someone else's anything I would notice.

angry

baw70 Mon 01-Apr-13 23:09:52

Many years ago my DS wandered out of class at the end of the day, wearing a school jumper that was clearly too small for him. So I turned him right around and insisted that the teacher and TA help me look for his jumper, as his had happened on other occasions and had cost me money. The classroom was turned upside down and then the TA had the bright idea of looking to see if there was a label on the jumper he was wearing, as it might belong to the child that could have taken his. Yes, yes it did have a label and the label had his name on it, in my very own handwriting! The hideous shame was horrendous. I could have sworn it had fitted him in the morning, he must have grown during the day. Luckily the staff saw the funny side, but they always looked at me as if I was a bit of an oddity after that.

LaQueen Mon 01-Apr-13 23:11:25

For a little while DD1 took a pair of decent trackie bottoms into school (M&S ones, I think) because I hadn't had chance to get to Asda to buy her more.

I actually said to her, at the time 'Huh, bet these won't last long...' And, I was right, they lasted 3 weeks, then poof...disappeared hmm

Same when she went to her last Brownie Sleepover. She had a nice little ruck-sac with matching purse and aluminium water bottle, all from Paperchase. She'd only had them that week, specifcally for the sleepover. All labelled.

None of them came back angry And, her Brownie group was really small...someone took them, which fair enough can happen...but, then they kept them angry

hwjm1945 Mon 01-Apr-13 23:13:32

I am amazed that people keep this stuff. Do they actually get pleasure from wearing it when they know it is nicked?

GotAnyGrapes Mon 01-Apr-13 23:15:14

I personally know of two parents who are semi open about the fact they do this. Neither are even remotely struggling financially. One has a sort of finders keepers attitude and the other actually prides herself in rarely having to buy uniform due to 'acquiring' lost property. She sees it as thrifty! She regularly raids the lost property box immediately after sch when it often contains lots of named items which have been picked up by kids and popped in there. I know she cuts names out and unpicks stitching. It's shocking but my kids are no longer at the same sch so I don't get involved.
Whenever mine have brought something home that doesn't belong to them I know immediately and I'm straight on my phone texting the parent to say I have the item. I label everything other than socks. I know they have occasionally come home with someone else's socks on but somehow I'm far less uptight about socks.

steppemum Mon 01-Apr-13 23:17:34

I always sew in labels in the collar, easy to read for children and adults, and they make a hanging loop, so jumper etc can go on their peg and less likely to be lost

But I always write on them with permanent marker too, and usually where it can be seen, so it is a deterrent.

nightmare.

hwjm1945 Mon 01-Apr-13 23:17:49

Grapes,that is appalling.if that was someone I know I would report to school and tell the other parents .almost minded to tell police!

LaQueen Mon 01-Apr-13 23:19:19

You've just confirmed ny suspicions Grape sad

5eggstremelychocaletymadeggs Mon 01-Apr-13 23:20:25

Yanbu this drives me nuts, I have taken to going through lost property at the end of term and if its not labelled and the right size I take it with the schools blessing.

I label e pverything religiously and still ds2 and ds3 have both had coats go missing this term!

RoomForASmallOne Mon 01-Apr-13 23:24:00

Grapes

I know a parent who uses the Lost Property like that sad

Bigger sized jumpers for next year etc.

Blatantly too.

GotAnyGrapes Mon 01-Apr-13 23:29:06

Oh I think the school already have a good idea as she did tell me she's been asked a couple of times what in particular she's looking for. She always says sweatshirt or cardi as inevitably there is at least one in there which isn't named which she then says she's sure is her child's. She is far more open about it to me as I'm no longer a parent there. She is always careful to say some things slightly tongue in cheek such as what a nuisance it is that the best quality stuff is always named. I don't know why I still speak to her actually as she annoys me not just with this but her general attitude. You'd think she was a bit 'rough' but she's not at all.

The other mum I know who does it doesn't brag about it but sees it as good fortune should her DD come home with a much newer cardi preferably in the next size up sort of thing. She doesn't set out to acquire stuff but never returns it either. I always thought they were both a but odd but it would seem to be widespread.

Kiriwawa Mon 01-Apr-13 23:29:42

I don't understand how some people don't realise that's actually stealing. If you know people who do this, I suggest you take their jacket if they get up from their chair and say 'finders keepers' to them and refuse to hand it back.

YellowTulips Mon 01-Apr-13 23:30:40

I feel your pain OP. I feel I must have clothed a good percentage of my son's peers this year already.....the lost list this academic year alone:

- 3 jumpers
- 1 winter coat
- 1 pair trainers
- 2 PE t- shirts
- 1 pair PE shorts
- 1 pair track suit bottoms

To be fair my son is not the best at remembering to bring his bags from school to after school club but there is also a big gap where things go missing between the two. I have spent so long in lost property bins, but though all is well labelled it never gets recovered. Total cost is probably circa £100.

It so infuriating and believe me I have had words with my son, but like grapes posted I have also encountered the finders keepers attitude with some parents.

The coat finally came back a term later - only because my son recognised it because another kid was wearing it. The response was - I saw you had got your son a new one so I didn't think you needed this one back :-(

Theas18 Mon 01-Apr-13 23:31:41

The secondary school PE kit had to be embroidered with the child's name on the outside before it left the designated uniform shop. Maybe primary schools should do that? Maybe just surnames to avoid the " hey little Ben come and look at my puppies" thing - ok if you are a smith it's hard but most other kids a surname would get your it back - and you'd know immediately it wasn't yours ( and machine embroidery doesn't unpick easily).

(and I'd have loved to have been a fly in the wall when my son became J Singh as he'd had to borrow kit- he was ,I believe teased somewhat as the least Sikh looking boy you can imagine!).

Itsaboatjack Mon 01-Apr-13 23:32:15

YmightbeBU, if like me the child's parent is even more slatternly and not even looked at the laundry basket yet. Also if it were my dh doing the washing I'm not sure he would notice at all if we had something that didn't belong to dd.

But on the whole YANBU it's totally annoying. My dd managed to lose 2 new school cardigans at the beginning of the year and there was never any sign of them in lost property.

A few yrs back when dd was in nursery and so not in uniform, I did find one day when sorting through her drawers that we had two of the same cardigan from Next. I've no idea how long we'd had them both for but I did take one of them back.

LaQueen Mon 01-Apr-13 23:32:17

But...but...but it is stealing angry They are knowingly stealing angry

YellowTulips Mon 01-Apr-13 23:36:32

I think some parents think its fair game. Your kid might lose a jumper but gain a winter coat wink

I just think its pretty shoddy tbh.

dadofnone Mon 01-Apr-13 23:39:45

Last year DS who was 15 at the time lost his school bag in school. It was a hugely expensive on that he had since starting high school. I went to school on a huge rant. I was tipped over the edge as we had been broken into a few weeks before and had over hundred thousand pounds worth of stuff stolen and really went of on one. I said I was going straight to the police station as I was fed up of people thinking they could take our stuff from us.
We got the bag back within 24 hours!

GotAnyGrapes Mon 01-Apr-13 23:45:16

I agree it is stealing. However you dress it up, they have stolen the clothes belonging to someone else's child.
As I said, I always thought these women a bit odd, certainly the one who seems to view it as a hobby but it would seem this is happening in the majority or at least a sizeable minority of schools up and down the country. I bet the same ones who do it would be mortified at the idea of taking £10 from a fellow parents purse but that's exactly what theyre doing.

Baroozer Mon 01-Apr-13 23:46:08

I had one parent accuse my DS of stealing her DS's jumper when I went up to her in the playground to return it, the day after DS had brought it home in his bag. I was so shock that I couldn't reply. I had even taken the trouble to wash it that evening because it was covered in dried food, so it was clean to return to her.

That same day DS came home with the same child's jumper in his bag, while still wearing his own. I asked him why on earth he had got C's jumper and DS's friend, who had come over to play, piped up with, "C always puts his jumper into other people's bags because he doesn't like it."

I took a rather guilty pleasure in asking C's mum, in front of everyone, if she could tell her DS not to put his jumper deliberately into my DS's bag again because it was so dirty that I had to clean the whole bag out. And then I handed it to her with the dried yoghurt stain clearly visible.

Baroozer Mon 01-Apr-13 23:47:27

YANBU, btw. Some parents are thieving bastards.

zipzap Mon 01-Apr-13 23:48:58

Ds1 had a coat turn up on his peg 18 months after he'd lost it... hmm

No idea where it went to in the interim as it didn't even seem like it had been worn. Think it just had fallen down behind something in a staff room. And I'd been rootling around the lost property box on a fairly regular basis; plus if something end up in there that is labelled then it gets put onto the kid's peg, they go through it every week or two, so the stuff that was in there is generally just the recently lost stuff or the unlabelled stuff. All the dc's stuff is clearly labelled and written on the garment these days - plus at ds1's new school uniform stuff comes ready labelled when you buy it from the school supplier (only one available for the logo-ed bits of uniform; prices fall somewhere between supermarkets and John Lewis/m&s so reasonable and they label it for you - fantastic)

Mind you somebody once refused to give ds his wellies back despite them clearly having his name in on the basis that he wouldn't then have any wellies to wear shock angry turned out there were 3 of them with identical wellies - third boy had taken other boy's wellies, other boy had taken ds's, ds had realised his wellies weren't there so hadn't worn them home (during heavy snow so all wearing wellies for school run). And third boy was then off sick so wellies hadn't returned to school. Also turned out that she had only labelled one welly as she assumed they would always be together hmm

she did give the wellies back eventually after a lot of talking and took the other identical ones instead but she really did not understand why she had to give ds his wellies back without her ds getting his pair back; she just couldn't comprehend that my ds had come home without wellies as he couldn't find his own ones. I'd also had to draught in the bloody scary class teacher because it was the only way I could get her to give the wellies back - she was going to take them home with her and bring them back for her ds to put on to ensure her ds had wellies as I had pointed out that they belonged to my ds and she didn't want my ds 'pinching' his own wellies as it would mean her son wouldn't have any. Completely gobsmacking. Left me very shock and angry not least because of needing to involve scary teacher who I tried to avoid as much as possible

And breathe... Sorry that was a bit of a rant!

LaQueen Mon 01-Apr-13 23:50:10

Exactly Grape it's exactly the same, as reaching over and secretly plucking a £10 from your wallet. It is stealing angry

The DDs have occasionally come home with other uniform. I wash it, and send it back to school the next day. Why? Because it isn't mine, and I didn't pay for it, that's why angry

DS needed uniform (expensive) speedos for team he was on. Also the same with a collared golf-style shirt they had to wear to games. Everyone swiped each others so I embroidered his name with my sewing machine on the speedo hip and sleeve cuff. No more missing speedos like when it was sharpied on the inside. WAAAAYYY too much work to unpick, would take a couple of hours and you can see where it is on the outside. I would ask school if you can have a shop embroider initials on chest or on the hem.

LaQueen Mon 01-Apr-13 23:53:58

zip oh, that rings bells...know one Mum who is so totally self absorbed with herself and her own child, that she did something very similar - but it was with another child's coat.

She couldn't see beyond the fact that her child didn't have their coat, and might be cold. She was totally oblivious to the fact, that the other child (who actually owned the coat) might also get cold, if they weren't able to wear it.

I watched the drama unfold, thinking 'Is this really happening, like really?'

whokilleddannylatimer Mon 01-Apr-13 23:57:21

Yanbu, my dc1 has lost four jumpers since September! All labelled in a school with only four classrooms in juniors.

Baroozer Tue 02-Apr-13 00:02:49

Zip, that's happened to us as well. Boy left his wellies at home, mother told him to find someone else's pair and wear those because they were going to stay at her DP's. So DS would have had no wellies over the Christmas holidays. Luckily I spotted him wearing them (name written in permanent marker on the outside) and got them back, but she was cross that her DS wasn't going to have any wellies. confused

muddythegoddessofdawn Tue 02-Apr-13 00:07:20

I'm fed up with replacing items. Some items I can understand go missing but DD went to put her coat on from her hook and it had gone.
I always buy expensive coats as she catches a bus in all our lovely dales weather. We looked high and low, never seen it since.
Now when I buy DD a new coat I not only sew her name in like before, I also write it in in black permanent ink. It means I can't sell on but she hasn't lost one this year yet. Only 3 tops, a pair of trainers and track bottoms.grin
I hope once she gets a locker at secondary school her stuff won't go walkabouts.

Smooshy Tue 02-Apr-13 00:20:48

I will admit to taking a jumper from lost property. But in my defence I had been checking for weeks for DS3's lost jumper and this jumper with an indecipherable name in had been sitting in the lost property box for weeks, so I claimed it as no one else had. I wouldn't take an obviously named item, and I only ever look in lost property when my child has lost stuff.

Selks Tue 02-Apr-13 00:29:42

Why don't the schools come down hard on this? School should make it policy that non-returned items belonging to other children are regarded as stolen and they should email all parents regularly to say this. If the school culture frowned on this more I'm sure it would lessen how much it happened.

Long time since my two were at school but I remember how maddening it was, particularly as I was on a low income at the time.

4posterbed Tue 02-Apr-13 00:32:28

My dc have never lost anything from primary school or secondary probably because we always get decent secondhand, either from the PTA secondhand sale or from friends whose dc have outgrown their uniform, and because my dc have learnt to be responsible and pack their own bags.

I often have dc who come to my house to play and I am amazed that they are constantly leaving items of clothing/uniform! I just think that many parents haven't taught their children to be responsible and believe me, if they are forgetful at 5 years old they are just as likely to be as forgetful at 15!

TomDudgeon Tue 02-Apr-13 00:44:56

I'm discovering that less is going missing since I started writing dds name on the inside back waistband of everything in huge letters using fabric pen. Things still go missing though but I'm relying on her to check as she gets a taxi. I hope she looks out for her little brother's stuff too when he starts in September.

Oh and btw if your son goes to school in norfolk and has lost a towel with an apple on it I have it (now washed) I know whose it is but no email or number to text.

My sons' schools insist on naming in numerous ways. Everything has a name label sewn inside and kit often has initials in the outside too. I don't know of its that it whether most of parent don't have to worry about the cost but neither have them have really lost anything to speak of.

missingmumxox Tue 02-Apr-13 00:47:04

I feel you pain I plan ahead and 3 years ago living in the states, I brought 2 coats for 8-9years which cost me the grand total of $16 using various vouchers and a sale, they are osh kosh and really warm.
got them out and labeled them this year, they actually had a label supplied inside to write on, within a week 1 went missing.
I use breakfast club and after school so very little opportunity to get into the lost property, after 3 weeks got in, and found the label! it was on the floor obviously ripped out by the lost property bin.
I have not seen that coat in the playground which makes me think it was sold on, also I was looking for other sons fleece and it was amazing how nothing in the lost property bin was school logo ed, all asda, tesco.
I have stopped buying the school logo stuff and my poor son is wearing a coat 2 sizes too small for him.
my other son has held onto his school fleece since year 1, now year 3 (brought much too big for him) he nagged us for a term to get him one with the school name on as in the US he just wore normal clothes and he loved the idea of "belonging"
I know it is his as the zip is broken and 1 pocket has a hole in it, but he loves it and guards it.
other son has "lost" numerous school jumpers I have given up buying for him.
I am from the school of if they bring stray stuff home I launder it and send it back.
On a good note at christmas one of my DT brought with his christmas money a skylander lunch holder and drink canister, he brought home some other child's, with lunch box at half term, that child's mum returned my sons and us her child's and we had both cleaned them, so it is not all bad.

whokilleddannylatimer Tue 02-Apr-13 01:03:17

"I just think that many parents haven't taught their children to be responsible and believe me, if they are forgetful at 5 years old they are just as likely to be as forgetful at 15! "

Believe me 4poster I nag my dc1 everyday and stand near the cloakroom door at hometime saying have you got x,y and z.

Every night they have forgot at least two things [cries] I do try honestly.

whokilleddannylatimer Tue 02-Apr-13 01:08:11

At their old very small village school (36 pupils) dc1 once won some one of a kind trainers, she sneaked them in for pe against my wishes and came home in plain pe pumps, they were never seen again sad I knew every parent in that school and everyone knew dc1 had won those trainers.

IneedAsockamnesty Tue 02-Apr-13 01:13:18

Yanbu.

One of my dc's have even had a gel wheelchair seat pad pinched its shocking what some parents won't return.

We've also lost shoes coats jumpers all named all new its a pain in the arse.

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Tue 02-Apr-13 02:05:31

I used to write on DSs school uniform in permanent marker, on the outside, in plain view. This was after losing several labelled sweaters. I took great delight one day in pointing out to one of the Smug Mummies, that her son was wearing my DSs jumper.
"I think not"...
"Well Im certain those are his initials on the back of the collar"...
She returned it with bad grace and dragged her child back to the classroom to locate his own sweater.
For once I was the Smug Mummy! grin

Yeah the whole 'teaching your kids not to loose things' I'd love to know how to do this because no matter what, no matter how many times I've tried (and not matter what I have tried, lists, reminders, making them replace stuff, making them go back and look for it, practising checking his bag etc) and how many times my kids have lost things that really matter to them they don't learn that lesson. One of my sons managed to loose a pair of shorts while wearing them in a store and he was not little. That takes skill. He also managed to loose a pair of shoes while wearing them. I used to check the lost and found weekly with him in primary school and there was always a couple of his things. He is almost 17 and still looses stuff, but it is not through lack of trying when he was young.

I'm shocked at how much stuff goes missing, Dd's school doesn't have uniforms. We are waiting for that pleasure when we move back to UK, her school has over 700 kids and she has only lost one fleece in 3 years at the school and that was this winter. My boys went to the same school and probably lost one a year each.
I'm terrible for remembering to write names in anything. I'm going to have to get a new permanent marker pen ready for those UK uniforms. One thing I know for sure after reading on here so much, she'll be in the Asda and Tesco uniforms nothing too expensive. Just in case our school is rife with uniform thieves.

teacherandguideleader Tue 02-Apr-13 06:35:07

I remember dealing with a uniform issue a few years ago. A girl had lost her nice new shirt and the only one left was a disgustingly grubby un-named shirt. I knew which child had taken the shirt but dealing with it was a nightmare. The girl who had taken it refused to take the shirt off to check for a name and went into a complete meltdown about being accused of taking it (she wasn't accused as I'd asked all the girls to check).

I did feel quite sorry for her, she was obviously so embarrassed to be wearing the awful one she had been sent in. She went home in the nice new one and I doubt her mum would have cared enough to check for a name - judging by the previous one it never went near the laundry.

I don't see the problem with going through lost property on the last day of term as usually whatever is left goes to the charity shop.

LtEveDallas Tue 02-Apr-13 07:14:27

I'm looking forward to my local market starting up again now it's 'summer' <<humph>> because there is a stall that does embroidery on clothing. I've decided I'm going to get DDs name embroidered onto the front of all her jumpers/cardis under the school badge, and on the arse pocket of her trousers.

I'm sick to death of it. She's Yr3 and I would think that she has gone through 3-4 sweatshirts every single year she has been at this school - and I'm sick of it. We've also 'lost' shoes, daps and trainers - and had one pair of shoes turn up with the name scribbled out inside - so obviously a parent.

We've had the blatent stealing as well. At Xmas, because I was sick of buying pens/pencils/rubbers every couple of weeks, I bought her the named stuff from ID Direct. 24 felt tips, pencils, colouring pencils, ruler, pencil case and biros. All with her full name embossed in gold letters.

At the start of March DD was off school for a week with the dreaded flu bug. When she went back everything was gone except the pencil case. The whole lot. I was furious, DD was really upset. The school did nothing. They have obviously gone home or DD would see them using them in the classroom.

It has completely changed my view of the school and I cannot wait to move and put it behind us.

Yanbu. Our logo'd school cardis/jumpers are £10-12 each. I labelled all three and yet one still went missing. Dd once came home with another jumper which I washed dried and returned following day to the mum. Yet no one showed the same curteousy for dd. I know the r expensive but come on, you don't steal someone else's.

Have also had an entire pe kit go missing , named bag on a named peg. I'm
Hoping it shows up beginning of term but as I can't be sure I now have to replace the bag and the kit.

Although the pe kit I am assuming is a case of last day of term rush.

marriedinwhiteagain Tue 02-Apr-13 07:51:27

Easy2name. They do iron on lettering which sticks like teflon. They do it in white for dark stuff and dark for white stuff.

But I will add I have one who would lose his head if it wasn't permanently attached and one at 15 who has lost one >>whispers<< one games hoodie (and it turned up as soon as I ordered another - name embroidered on the back in big letters) and one pair of shoes that had done four terms and I was threatening the bin and sighed a sigh of relief when they went.

Euphemia Tue 02-Apr-13 08:12:05

My school recently sent a letter to parents telling them that unclaimed items from lost property would be bagged up at the end of each week and the date marked on the bag. Once the bag had been in school for four weeks, it would be passed on to the textile recycling people.

After the first four weeks, there were so many bags of clothes sitting in the school, including expensive winter jackets, that the HT couldn't bear to get rid of them! She sent another letter out saying that items would be held onto for longer, and begging parents to come and look through the bags to see if they recognised anything belonging to their child(ren).

CPtart Tue 02-Apr-13 08:25:58

My son was sharing a room with four other boys at cub camp and came home minus a pair of pj bottoms. Not a big deal really but they had his name in and never returned. Old pj bottoms ffs, never returned. One of them must have them!

lottieandmia Tue 02-Apr-13 08:30:15

This makes me angry too. My older dd, with SEN when she was at primary school as part of her ABA programme had her Roxy coat stolen - I just don't understand why people think they can help themselves to other people's stuff.

My younger dd, in a prep school has never had anything stolen, but it is a much smaller school so I imagine would get noticed more easily. My dd who has SEN will be starting school again this year and I have bought some iron on stuck on you labels - they melt into the fabric so cannot be cut out or removed easily.

zipzap Tue 02-Apr-13 08:31:07

squinkies I've found the easiest way is to have a job lit of fabric markers and permanent markers.

I keep one set upstairs on the landing window sill, one downstairs in the penpot by the front door and one in the car. Occasionally there's even a set in my handbag.

That way I get to intercept unnamed clothing and mark it pretty easily - especially on days where they have to wear their own stuff in which I don't usually label by default; it only gets labelled if going to school or a party. Plus there are some things that the 'permanent' marker fades on; some things faster than others, so if there are pens around you can top it up much more easily there and then rather than having to wait until you get home and then forgetting...

The only thing I haven't been able to find is a White/pale fabric marker as now ds1 has moved up to the next school and his uniform is all navy or dark grey which is a real pain to mark by pen permanently. Does help that they label it for you when you buy it, so every poloshirt and jumper and games kit is labelled by default and all in the same place for each item, making it much easier to check and less of an issue as most stuff is labelled.

In infant school I really think that on the first week day of term when settling kids in, the teachers should ask to see the labels on each item of school uniform and if it's not labelled then whip out a marking pen and do it there and then. Not quite perfect I know, but if parents were warned this was going to happen they would have the choice of doing it themselves and maybe a donation to a school funds box for each one that needed doing so that people didn't use it as as a free labelling service instead of bothering to do it themselves.

Amazed by the number of peopled who have encountered such entitled behaviour even when rightfully challenged! And glad that writing on the outside of the jumper managed to give smug mum her comeuppance!

DontSweatTheSmallStuff Tue 02-Apr-13 08:38:51

I think we must've been lucky (so far), only had one named pair of trouseurs go missing. Not in lost property so someone has them. I understand things getting mixed up and going to the wrong home but if not returned then it is stealing.

And actually it's stealing from children which imho makes the stealers even bigger scummy scum bags.

lottieandmia Tue 02-Apr-13 08:48:40

' The girl who had taken it refused to take the shirt off to check for a name and went into a complete meltdown about being accused of taking it (she wasn't accused as I'd asked all the girls to check).'

If I was her teacher I would have told her she was going to sit in the head's office until she took it off and showed me she had checked. It is not ok for children to learn that it's ok for them to take other people's stuff, no matter how grubby her own shirt was.

hamdangle Tue 02-Apr-13 08:57:14

I don't think DS had a jumper that lasted longer than a month the whole time he was in school and we would usually buy a two or three coats a term. I very rarely had anything turn back up despite regularly going though lost property.

He also lost three pairs of trainers in his first term at high school and has lost two pairs of trainers whilst actually wearing them! Once he went to the park wearing brand new adidas trainers and came back in a hundred year old pair of cheapo trainers! He had taken his trainers off when playing (who does that?) and someone had swapped them!!! Don't know if it was a kid or a parent but either way I was livid!

Some of it is obviously DS' own fault though. I couldn't really blame anyone when he left his black rucksack in Tescos on an out of town shopping park. Someone thought it was a bomb and evacuated Tescos and the whole shopping park for half a day. Bomb squad destroyed the bag including homework and library books. shock

PlumSykes Tue 02-Apr-13 08:59:05

We are lucky, I think, and not much of this goes on. In fact, out lost property bin is full of clearly named jumpers etc, which no-one ever bothers to collect.

I do think, though, that insisting on your child taking responsibility for their things is key, though. Am quite sure that if they took a prized possession into school, they wouldn't forget to bring it home. By year 2 they should be packing their own bag in the morning, and also making sure they having everything back in it at the end of the day. Am not including kids with SEN in this, obviously.

LauraSmurf Tue 02-Apr-13 08:59:43

As a teacher, I know this happens but am ashamed to say I didn't realise the extent of it. I teach 10/11 year olds and so rarely see parents. Children are expected look after their own stuff.

But I do ensure I mark initials on every childs indoor shoes and sweatshirt at the start of the year. With best intentions I mean to do sporadically throughout the year but I forget. I will definitely do this at the start of next term.

The biggest problem I find is indeed the school ethos on it. I am a parent myself and even when I wasn't my mum taught me to look out for my own belongings as well as everyone else's. So lost, wrong clothing has always been on my radar. I don't mean to generalise, but it's often the single, childless and I'm sorry to say male, teachers who don't care and so it is allowed to carry on.

This year has been my worst for lost items as I share a cloakroom with a 22 year old male NQT who cares little for order, tidiness or rightful owners. He admitted to me he has a cupboard full of clothing collected from the start of the year as he 'can't be bothered to take it all the way to lost property'. It's ridiculous (I took it all down btw, separating out the bits with names first for the office to hold onto).

Sorry that turned into a bit of a thought dump!

Plumsykes, my kids have regularly lost prized possessions.

PlumSykes Tue 02-Apr-13 09:03:14

How, Self? Did another child take them from them?

lottieandmia Tue 02-Apr-13 09:03:42

'I do think, though, that insisting on your child taking responsibility for their things is key'

I agree with this. I have drummed it into my dd that she must take care of her stuff and that if she loses her hockey socks again, I'm not buying more. The message seems to have gone in but she is 9 now!

Nope, distracted and disorganised. Mainly distracted, thoughts on other things going on and remember later.

Lottie, I've done that with mine and made them replace things with their own money or painfully do without. Makes no difference.

I'm serious, how does one teach this.

zipzap Tue 02-Apr-13 09:14:20

hamdangle bet explain that one to the teacher was fun grin

Still, makes a change from the dog ate my homework I guess!!

PlumSykes Tue 02-Apr-13 09:18:57

Self, that would drive me spare. Not sure what else you can do, esp at his age. Sellotape everything to him before he leaves the house?

HarrySnotter Tue 02-Apr-13 09:21:29

YANBU at ALL.

DD 'lost' a cardigan at school (£15 each, school one) but thought that one of the other girls at school had taken it by mistake. She had, and it WAS a mistake as when I asked the mum she said that yes they had it and would bring it in. I must have asked her 50 bloody times to bring it in but she eventually said that her DD must have worn it to school one day and lost it. A few weeks ago, DD brought the cardigan home and her name had been crossed out and this other girls name written beside it. Then the mum had the bloody cheek to ask for it back. Can you guess this pissed me off? smile

I've threatened stapling things to his forehead.

Twelve year old is not as bad, but still not great.

MandragoraWurzelstock Tue 02-Apr-13 09:29:00

We used to just buy cheap as chips uniform in the right colours and if something went, it went - it was a pound or two and we had loads.

Once I did keep a cardi belonging to a girl in ds's class for about a term, that's embarrassing but at the time I'd just put it on the side to go back, as it was named, and it got somehow stuck under a load of other stuff and forgotten and when I mentioned I had it, the other parents didn't seem too fussed so eventually I found it and it went back. I assume they had a few spares too.

Now the uniform is logo'd and very expensive so I'd always return something as we have barely any spares and can't afford to replace.

We know a family who kept someone's named scooter for weeks, despite an email going out to all parents hmm that it was lost.

I avoid logo uniform (that's another thread grin ) and so far, touch wood, nothing has gone missing.

His friends, in logo uniform, have things go missing all the time. There must be a connection.

Euphemia Tue 02-Apr-13 09:31:56

when settling kids in, the teachers should ask to see the labels on each item of school uniform and if it's not labelled then whip out a marking pen and do it there and then

Nice idea, but there would be no time for anything else! Then the next day they come in wearing clean clothes and you have to start again!

I labelled all the P1 children's gym shoes one afternoon after they had all gone home. It made a big difference at PE time, making sure everyone took and then put away their own!

As a parent I have had uniform items go astray, some to return and some not, and have received the wrong item which is always washed and returned.

HOWEVER ... as a teacher I get seriously hacked off that so many parents expect me to sort out their uniform disputes. I am there to educate your child, not to arbitrate over whose jumper is whose and to search the cloakroom for it.

Can you imagine the thread? "Little Jemima's homework wasn't marked this week and the teacher had the audacity to say that it was because she was busy looking for someone's jumper!"

I think a better idea would be for all schools to allow pupils to wear supermarket jumpers. Affording £4 for two is easier than replacing jumpers costing over £10 for one.

Teachers can't be expected to deal with it.

5eggstremelychocaletymadeggs Tue 02-Apr-13 09:39:08

My children are responsible and dont 'lose' stuff anywhere else, its not an issue at high school with ds1, its just at primary and beliebe me with five mine have all been taught to be responsible, even ds4 in reception packs his own school nag everyday and when he gets home he knows to hang up.his coat, put his shoes away and then empty out his lunch box and put it in the sink.

Things seem.to go missing on pe/swimming days more and i understamd when they all get changed and clothes are put on chairs/benches etc there is the chance that stuff gets muddled up but i ALWAYS wash and return anything thats not ours!!! Some parents do not it seems.

Plus the two coats were clearly labelled and each child has a labelled peg, i see ds3 hang his up everyday through the window as i wave him goodbye, his pekit is hung on his peg etc as well but the coat vanished and i and his teacher have searched for it.

Ditto ds2 his coat gets hung on his peg or uf he gets hot he puts it in his bag, that bag is like the tardis! Footbal shin pads, goalie gloves etc and yes prized possessions like brand new goalie gloves have gone missinh as well and its not because he doesnt care or look after them as he does but some children (age 10/11 yr6) will pinch things or 'borrow' them and their parents obviously dont care!

Scorchio Tue 02-Apr-13 09:43:22

I use these labels. They are bomb-proof and I've never had an issue with uniform going missing.

5eggstremelychocaletymadeggs Tue 02-Apr-13 09:44:38

I buy supermarket non logo.jumpers and t-shirts and label them and yes they are cheaper but thats not the point, particularly with three boys at the same primary as i can hand stuff down and with four boys i hand lots of stuff down, so ds3's coat was a good columbia one already worn by ds2 but looked new and ds4 would have grown into it but nope its gone.

I dont expect the teacher to sort it out but ours will look for stuff thats missing or put a sign up in the classroom window which is helpful.

LaQueen Tue 02-Apr-13 10:10:59

As for the whole ethos of Teach your child not to lose things... Well, I do try very hard, I really do.

But, at least she definitely knows to not steal things which aren't hers.

Kiriwawa Tue 02-Apr-13 10:21:01

Everything DS owns (school-related) has an easy2name label in it. I do try and teach him to take care of stuff but he has trouble remembering a series of instructions or to put his pants on before his trousers so it's a bit of a losing battle.

HarrySnotter - that is absolutely shocking. I never fail to be amazed by the absolute barefaced cheek of some people.

MandragoraWurzelstock Tue 02-Apr-13 10:28:22

Horry I fought tooth and nail to try and stop the logos being brought in, so did many of the other parents but the school overruled us all (consultation my arse) and now it is compulsory.

I wouldn't have signed up for this school if I'd known but it seemed unkind to move the children half way through.

houseworkhater Tue 02-Apr-13 10:28:58

I agree with all that's been said.

I now buy dd2 non logoed cardis. They are cheaper and more distinguishable as hardly anyone else in her class has the exact same one.
I find these far less likely to "disappear".

I never got back a brand new logoed jumper my ds had. Interestingly the only jumpers left in the class were the crappy, scruffy ones that looked like my floor clothes. There was no way someone could mistake his new, labelled one for one of those.

Last year ds went on a school tripabroard with senior school. I bought him a brand new pair of sports shorts-an actual team pair such as Barcelona or something. A boy in his year took them home. We asked him for them back he said he would give them back. Then my dh asked his mother (my ds and this boy played rugby together) yes she said. This went on for months with my son asking him to bring them to school or rugby ever weekand my dh speaking to his mothe, every week at rugby. It has now been 12 months and neither one has given them back to my son.
My ds never actually got to wear them. The nerve of some people is astounding.

MySpecialistSubjectIsMN Tue 02-Apr-13 10:29:05

DC1 lost eight jumpers in one term. I went ballistic. They were all named too. When I went to check lost property there was a mum who was going through the uniform checking what fitted her DC's and taking it - I have no doubt that she has probably rarely bought jumpers for her DC's.

After this incident I bribed my child to come home with his jumper. If he came home with his own jumper every day for a week he would get a magazine /other small treat at the end of the week. It worked - he managed to not lose a jumper since.

Thank goodness because a year later we moved to a school where jumpers are triple the price. I couldn't actually afford eight jumpers at £30 a go, every bloody term also helps that DC1 is the smallest in his year group so they can't be stolen

This bribery trick has been passed on to DC2 and DC3 and seems to be working quite well, as between them we have only lost one jumper so far.

MandragoraWurzelstock Tue 02-Apr-13 10:30:30

Housework, can you turn up at their house and ask for the shorts?

Mermaidspam Tue 02-Apr-13 10:33:24

YANBU.

I also feel your pain.

DD's best friend had her Superdry coat stolen at school. How can you, as a parent, not notice if your child comes home with a brand new £80 coat?!

Awizardsstaffhasaknobontheend Tue 02-Apr-13 10:34:12

We dont have lost property boxes anymore so no chance of things being nicked from them. Each 2 classes share a cloakroom (pegs and lockers for all) and at the end of each day I do a sweep around and gather up all left items BEFORE the children go home. Named items are given straight out and non named are kept by me for 1 week. If not collected they go into PTA 2nd hand sale. Surprisingly the PTA get a lot less than they used to when we had the boxes!
But still we get parent not naming things! A few weeks ago my y1/2 were swimming and I had 3 boys and 3 polo shirts. Not one shirt was named (nor any other item of their clothing - I checked) and they all claimed that one particular shirt was theirs. I eventually gave them out according to size of child and shirt but spoke to each parent to explain the situation. I did ask very nicely if they could name their clothes and were told they all were! Hmmm....I think not!
I have been known to write the child's initials myself on the clothes if it is a child who is particularly good at losing stuff!

fancyabakeoff Tue 02-Apr-13 10:51:33

This used to happen in my daughter's primary school a lot, so the school decided to offer a service where the child's initials could be embroidered onto the front of jumpers, cardigans, coats, school t shirts, P.E. kits etc. It cost a £1 per item and cut down the lost property at school a huge amount.

If a child had the same initals as someone else the school class number would be added, so initials of AB would be AB1, for example. In the event that two children in the same class had the same initials there would be a picture of some sort added too if necessary, although I don't think this was ever needed (small school).

LeeCoakley Tue 02-Apr-13 10:58:45

I organise the lost property and spare clothes at school. I have named all the spare clothing with the school name in black laundry pen across the collars, waistbands, everywhere. All the pants/knickers have the name written across the back of them. The socks have the name written across the bottom of the feet. When children need a change of clothes in school, I would say 50% bring back within 7 days. About 10% wait until the end of term (for some reason) and the rest never bring back at all. Us staff never see children re-wearing our stuff so we can only assume it gets thrown away!

LeeCoakley Tue 02-Apr-13 11:03:57

Our lost property box has no named items in it. Anything named gets back to the right class eventually when someone recognises where it belongs. You could suggest to your school that named stuff gets put in a box in the office and if you have lost a named item then they could let you in to search for it. That way, if it's named it's unlikely to be pilfered.

meddie Tue 02-Apr-13 11:06:26

I had a parent absolutely indignant when I pointed our her son was wearing my childs new jumper and I would like it back (he had her sons manky old one)
She was trying to make out it was just a jumper and didnt matter who was wearing what and I should let him just keep it.

Toasttoppers Tue 02-Apr-13 11:06:45

Name tags can be cut out, I write in permanent marker pen.

Toasttoppers Tue 02-Apr-13 11:12:33

I think poor Hamdangle wins

skyebluesapphire Tue 02-Apr-13 11:20:22

YANBU - My DD is in Reception class and so far she has lost 1 sweatshirt and 2 cardis. The cardis were only £3 at Asda, but the sweatshirt has the logo on and costs around £8 a time. I bought her two for 50p each in the summer fete, so not too bad, but if I had paid £8, I would be livid.

I use a system called Attachatag, which gives you a little gadget and buttons with the childs name on that you attach to the clothes labels. They are very distinctive and cant be missed, yet somebody has that sweatshirt.

Its not a question of losing things. If the kids get hot, they have to all put their jumpers in the jumper box. so if at the end of the day a sweatshirt goes missing, it means that a child who didnt wear one in, has gone home wearing one.

I asked for a bit to go in the school newsletter asking parents to check all uniform over the holidays and the teacher said it wasnt necessary. Guess what was in the same newsletter - a note from the headteacher saying that children are coming to school not in uniform! I wonder why that is?!!!

A local school embroiders the childs name on the front of their jumper, but of course then it cant be handed down.

I do think it is theft, if you are taking somebody else's clothes. A comment earlier on was shocking, to think that somebody can actually knowingly steal clothes by actually taking them and removing the labels sad Its not finders keepers, she should hand the stuff to the teacher.

insanityscratching Tue 02-Apr-13 12:05:06

When in infants dd had many sweaters/ cardigans go missing even though labelled. Now in juniors she hasn't lost any at all. I don't think it's a coincidence that she is the smallest in the school and so still wearing infant sizes and the reason why hers don't go missing any more because she is no less forgetful.

Doodyanna Tue 02-Apr-13 13:51:36

Our head puts lost property in the school newsletter 'so and so has lost their sweater, has wrong trousers, someone has rode home on their scooter etc please can all parents check they haven't got it by mistake and please return' she also updates to say they have it back it maybe pricks the conscience of those who have secret hoards of other people stuff. We have to have the kids initials on the front of the school jumper just under the logo and that works but as for everything else its a pia and very expensive replacing kit so yanbu!

motherhen1949 Tue 02-Apr-13 14:10:34

Yanbu i have taken to writing ds name on the front of his football boot in black permant pen bevause they were getting nicked that often

Also wrote his name in large letters on the outside of his pe shirt and the teaher had a frigging cheak to complain i made it very clear i cant afford to keep replacing pe kit to its either name of the frong or no kit

It really pisses me off that parents also dont question were the hell there children got the football boots ftom they clearly didnt buy

motherhen1949 Tue 02-Apr-13 14:12:42

My ds is in high school but i do know in primay schools some parents use the lost proptery box as a sopping centre as a replacement for actually buying frigging uniform

LaQueen Tue 02-Apr-13 21:14:40

"She was trying to make out it was just a jumper and didnt matter who was wearing what and I should let him just keep it."

Oh, yes...recognise this angry It's funny that these sort of parents are very adept at trying to shift blame, and make out that it is you who is in the wrong, and too uptight, and too concerned with irrelevant details like 'My DD's £60 anorak has disappeared'...

...and, that really you should be more like them - really chilled out, and relaxed, and doing far more interesting/worthy/fulfilling stuff than fretting about school uniform, yeah?

Yes...I guess if I had no conscience, and no ethics, and could happily steal other children's uniform, and thereby save myself ££££s every term, I expect I would probably be much more chilled out and relaxed as a person.

After all, I'm saving £££££s, I don't have the hassle of driving into town, shopping for uniform, trying to get the right sizes, trying to persuade a reluctant DC to try it on...

...Oh no, I would have to do any of that - I'll just steal yours, ta very much. Sorted.

IAmLouisWalsh Tue 02-Apr-13 21:26:17

DS has his initials on the front of his jumper under the logo. Costs an extra £2 but bloody worth it as you can tell straight away it is his!

lottieandmia Tue 02-Apr-13 22:48:15

I think it's disgusting that so many parents apparently think it's ok to steal the uniform of another child. What kind of example are they setting? Is it any wonder we end up with young people who think it's ok to raid shops like they did in the riots?

I think I am lucky in that at my younger dd's school clothes are not stolen (to my knowledge) - things do get mixed up but we always get them back a matter of days later. And I name everything. My older dd had a coat go missing which we eventually got back as I said, but she had a 1:1 to check where her stuff was all the time. It makes me wonder what else would have gone missing had she not had the 1:1.

whokilleddannylatimer Wed 03-Apr-13 08:00:00

My dd gets things stolen too, my mum bought her a monsoon coat with a big fabric flower on, it was like a broach so we stitched it on too. Came out of school flower free first day she wore it, x came next day with this flower stitched on the coat that didnt have one day before....

Alligatorpie Wed 03-Apr-13 08:21:46

I teach reception (international school overseas) and regularly send notices home reminding parents to label uniforms. But, I use a purple permanent marker for those who forget. Stuff still goes missing.

I occasionally check the lost and found, the number of labelled clothing is astonishing. I think because the matrons mostly can't read English, or parents with write only a first name (I had 3 Omar's in my class, can't imagine how many are in the whole school) it is difficult to return stuff to the owner. I have never seen a parent in there.

Dd1 regularly loses expensive water bottles and hoodies. Most of it doesn't come back. Thankfully the weather means we are in tshirts for the rest of the year. They don't change for PE so its pretty hard to lose a tshirt.

Hattifattner Wed 03-Apr-13 08:25:31

when my DD was at jUniors, she lost 3 cardigans in a the first term. All with sewn in lables. I was rummaging through the (huge) lost property box(es) and another mum said "Oh just take one in her size, and cut out the label. EVryone else does it...."

The school is in an elite area of very affluent professional families.

DS2 wears his brothers shiney hand-me-downs, with tatty cuffs. Strangely, he never loses his jumpers....

Hattifattner Wed 03-Apr-13 08:32:52

Oh and dont get me started on swim kit! DS has lost water bottles by the box load, snorkels x 2 (£24 a pop); two pullbuoys (c. £10 each), 2 sets of hand paddles (£18) 3 or 4 swim suits (around £15 each), and heaven knows how many goggles (about one set each term, c. £15). Everything is marked in permanent marker. None of it ever comes home. ANd every parent says the same. The pool doesnt have them in lost property, so where do they go?

Most of the families that swim competitively have children in private schools, so they are not short of a bob or two. ANd yet stuff goes missing all the time......

LaQueen Wed 03-Apr-13 08:41:33

It just infuriates me (can't you tell) because I like my DDs to have nice, quality stuff (and often DD2 wears DD1's hand-me-downs) - so I am prepared to spend a few £££.

But, it's like there are other parents who have marked me down as a Mum who buys good stuff, and you feel almost targeted.

DD1 has won a place at a PGL camp this month, and for the first time I am going to deliberately buy her cheap supermarket t-shirts, jeans, sweat shirts, and a really cheap bag to take with her.

Because I know that if she takes her good stuff with her, some of it won't come back sad

laqueen have you spoken to the head? I mean you expect the odd mix up but your situation takes the piss!

LaQueen Wed 03-Apr-13 13:28:41

Where the HT knows, lots of parents complain, and emails/textx are regularly sent ouy.

But, some parents are just completely bare-faced about it sad

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Wed 03-Apr-13 15:06:03

The ONLY way to ensure you keep the stuff you bought is to permanently deface the outside of the clothing with a name or initials. Its shite, and means that its harder to 'hand me down' or pass stuff on, but when you repeatedly lose stuff theres no other answer.
Alternatively, our primary school used to sell lost property and donated items at the summer fete. It was a chance to buy logoed items at a very small price, and help the school at the same time. Its much less painful to lose second hand things that cost £2 a pop.

Naysa Wed 03-Apr-13 15:20:05

Mymum got so sick of my sister's PE polo shirt going missing when she was in primary that she took a fabic marker and wrote her name on the back in two inch high letters, like a football shirt. It never went missing again.
grin

Hatti, we fixed the goggle thing. DS learned to like swedes. Not only are they really cheap but most kids don't like them. Also we bought red ones with a yellow bungee strap, quite unique and everyone knew they were my son's. Added bonuses were that they leak less and I could easily tell which kid was mine on the blocks from 30m away when they all had blond shaggy hair and matching team suits.

teacherandguideleader Wed 03-Apr-13 17:45:44

Lottieandmia - I physically couldn't make the girl take her shirt off. Of course I referred it on to someone else, but she still refused to take the shirt off. Schools cannot force a child to remove clothing. She was punished for refusal to follow instructions, it just didn't get the shirt back.

greenfolder Wed 03-Apr-13 17:51:44

At all the schools my 3 dds have been to there is a rule that stuff only ends up in the property box if it is unamedm , if it has a name it is passed to class teacher or form tutor to give back. Of course this will not stop students deliberately nicking stuff but it cuts down on people rakinh through lost property for good stuff and cutting out labels.

thebody Wed 03-Apr-13 18:02:14

Yes agree op but how many posters blindly support school uniforms so all of the children look the same and wear the same clothes.

Bloody madness.

As a TA and a parent this drives me bloody dotty.

I have many parents raging that expensive uniform items have gone missing and expect me to magic them up.. Sorry can't.

Non uniform days are exquisite. Children know and recognise their own clothes and don't loose anything.

This problem is our own stupid faults for clinging onto this absurdity.

Spottyblancmange Wed 03-Apr-13 18:22:16

The worst I've had was at DD's previous school. A girl in her class was notorious for taking other people's uniforms (and her parents for encouraging it). Her elder sister had the same first name as DD, so her stuff was seen as extra fair game because they could claim "Well it says Jane here look, it's been passed down" and conveniently ignore that it had a different last name. Once the girl even accused DD of having stolen her jumper and writing our last name in. Despite the fact as well as being written on the label there was a printed label sewn in the collar and waistband.

Changebagsandgladrags Wed 03-Apr-13 18:29:04

DS came home with a jumper two sizes too big. Not labelled, but I had an idea who it belonged to. I asked the mum if her son had brought home my son's jumper,his is labelled. Nope.

But her son was in a jumper two sizes too small. I just held on to the jumper...

Kiriwawa Wed 03-Apr-13 18:49:49

thebody - that's a bloody good point and one I hadn't even thought of. One of my friend's DDs is at a school where there's no uniform and she has complained to me about her DD losing hairclips. It's never occurred to me that actually, her DD doesn't lose/have nicked jumpers and fleeces!

And I never wore a school uniform and I don't think I ever lost anything at school (I may have to doublecheck that assertion with my mum).

Certainly on non-uniform days, DS comes home wearing the clothes he went in wearing, despite the fact that none of them are labelled

ElsieMc Wed 03-Apr-13 18:56:45

yanbu, it is so annoying. Always the new ones go missing. Some of parents advised me to get new ones from ASDA - they don't have the badges on but are the right colour and the school are happy with this. I was told they had resorted to this because they did not get stolen. Another way round it was for those leaving school to hand their sweaters to other parents so then you are not too bothered if they go missing.

My GS came home in the wrong trousers one day and I returned them to the rightful owner next day. However, another mum insisted my GS was now wearing her son's. I simply couldn't get my head round how my GS had ended up with no pants!

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