Car M.O.T.

(48 Posts)
houseworkhater Mon 01-Apr-13 19:42:46

This is not an aibu but I need a quick response so need to post here.

My car has failed mot.
After speaking to a couple of people they told me not to take it back to the garage where it was tested.

He has kept the paperwork as initially I said I would have the work done there.
My question is this: if I take it elsewhere for the work doing do I then have to take it back to the original garage for retesting and is it free. I have already paid him for the mot- he refused to take a cheque-only cash.


specialsubject Mon 01-Apr-13 19:48:51

if he promised to do you a free retest, he should keep that promise. But you do not have to go back to him, you can get a retest anywhere. Shop around - MotS can be had for about £30.

be aware that you cannot drive the car now except to the garage that has a test booked - the same one that will be doing the repairs.

this guy is not paying his taxes, don't use him again.

McNewPants2013 Mon 01-Apr-13 19:49:54

Do you think mot station fail cars on purpose. I can't see any reputable place trying to con it's customers.

houseworkhater Mon 01-Apr-13 19:52:55

Bugger- He didn't mention the cost of the retest, I don't know if he intended to charge me again, I just assumed that I wouldn't have to pay him again. I,m new to this can't you tell?
Do you usually have to pay again?

ParadiseChick Mon 01-Apr-13 19:53:26

How do you know he's not paying taxes?

Xales Mon 01-Apr-13 19:53:35

I though most places only offered a free retest if you got the work done through them.

If you go else where then they will charge if you go back to them for another MOT.

ParadiseChick Mon 01-Apr-13 19:54:42

No where charges for a retest.

Why are people telling you not to get him to do the work?

TidyDancer Mon 01-Apr-13 19:55:29

The ones that do a free retest normally say so, it's a good marketing tool.

I've luckily never (touch wood) had a car that's failed its MOT but the garage I use for servicing and MOTs does a £30 test, free retest if it's a fail and oil check/change is included. Don't know if all garages do that though.

ParadiseChick Mon 01-Apr-13 19:55:48

Not always the case. We do our own repairs and get a free retest.

McNewPants2013 Mon 01-Apr-13 19:57:53

Many business don't accept cheque these days and there is a charge to the business to have chip and pin.

aldiwhore Mon 01-Apr-13 20:00:19

This can be a minefield... many places offer a free re-test within a certain time frame IF you get the work done with them, and sometimes that's where your pocket will suffer.

DH's car failed on a number of things via kwickfit, with a few advisorys (sp) to boot. We felt it wasn't right for so much to have gone so wrong within a year, so wrote off the 'free re-test' (and work, example, with my car the cheapest tyre they had was over £100, I can get my whole car done for that elsewhere).

We took DH's car to another garage, and paid for another test... we told them NOTHING about the points on the previous test. 80% of the fails suddenly became advisorys... which although need sorting, aren't dangerous. We've saved ourselves close to £1000 (immediately) and his car is almost on the road (parts proving a problem = whole other other AIBU ranty thread where I can tell you, AINBU!!!).

I do not think either garage was an outright 'con' but prices AFTER a failed MOT vary massively, and if you agree to any garage retesting, you are agreeing to their prices, and they may not give you the best deal.

WowOoo Mon 01-Apr-13 20:00:50

Some garages will try it on, I'm sure.

I always try to get my service done just before MOT. That way I at least have an idea if it's likely to fail on anything.

It may be worth taking it somewhere else. Remember, they might find other things to fail it on. You'll have to pay for MOT again too.

Have a look on moneysavingexpert - there are lots of MOT tips there.

I'm not sure if you have to pay for re test. Surely they know what it failed on and if they've righted that, you should pass.

I don't like the sound of someone not accepting a cheque. I'd have told them that it's that or nothing. You could report them!

aldiwhore Mon 01-Apr-13 20:01:36

Also he shouldn't have KEPT the paperwork, that rings a big alarm, he should have kept a copy (or given one to you).

HollyBerryBush Mon 01-Apr-13 20:03:25

Your local council will have a testing place that only does tests and no repairs. they have to use it for council vehicles and buses (read that on moneysaving wotsit). It is the only reputable way to get it done.

phantomnamechanger Mon 01-Apr-13 20:11:06

I don't like the sound of someone not accepting a cheque. I'd have told them that it's that or nothing. You could report them

what are you on about, loads of places no longer take cheques! They were talking about doing away with them altogether!

blueraincoat Mon 01-Apr-13 20:11:56

I could be wrong but I believe that the free retest generally only applies if you don't take the car away but leave it there to be fixed and then retested, I could be wrong though.

It would be pretty hard to fail lots of cars to con customers. They have computers linked to the DVLA that they use and a lot of the tests emissions etc are linked directly to the computer. I think the DVLA would notice if one centre was failing lots of cars. Do agree though about shopping around. I would also recommend an independent over a chain.

phantomnamechanger Mon 01-Apr-13 20:13:58

Also he shouldn't have KEPT the paperwork, that rings a big alarm, he should have kept a copy (or given one to you). he only kept it because the OP said she was taking the car back there for the repairs

But nowadays all MOTs are online aren't they, so any garage should be able to look up your car and see what was said

blueraincoat Mon 01-Apr-13 20:16:09

Also again to not accepting cheques, its a minefield. They bounce and incur fees, don't clear for ages sometime, people post date them. Does not been he is fiddling the tax man. Card machines are expensive and bank will not issue them to a lot of small businesses. Hate the insinuation tradesmen do not pay their taxes!

Shutupanddrive Mon 01-Apr-13 21:41:38

You should get a free retest as long it's within I think 7 days. Our car failed on a few things, Dp took it away to get tyres from somewhere else (cheaper), and then returned for retest.

oldraver Mon 01-Apr-13 21:49:55

It depends on what the care has failed on. There are certain things where you can take the car away and have a a free retest within a certain period.

What did it fail on ?

oldraver Mon 01-Apr-13 21:52:37

Have a look at this. All this info will be on the back of the failure from, but as you dont have this you wouldn't of seen it

KansasCityOctopus Mon 01-Apr-13 21:56:15

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Ilovemydogandmydoglovesme Mon 01-Apr-13 22:04:12

I used to work in a garage and we told people that they were entitled to have the failure repairs done anywhere they liked, but that as we were the garage that issued the failure notice, we would have to do the retest. Retests were always free.

I was always quite amused by the deranged people who accused us of making up the repairs to get the work. We were always fully booked for weeks ahead. Quite how they thought we could suddenly fit in Mot repair work when our workshop was running at full capacity I don't know.

IneedAsockamnesty Mon 01-Apr-13 22:08:45

I thought a retest was free if they did the work within a certain time and the vehicle did not leave the test place

ShootingStarsss Mon 01-Apr-13 22:09:04

I thought you could take your car away to be repaired anywhere you choose & you have a certain amount of days to return to MOT garage (say 7) to get your free re test.

specialsubject Mon 01-Apr-13 22:15:27

The garage I use (small family business) has a big sign saying 'don't ask for a discount for cash, we pay our VAT'.

I am not insinuating that all tradesmen don't pay their taxes. I am just suggesting that those who absolutely refuse anything except cash may have a reason. Except (I discover) just after Christmas, when I gather that many cheques bounce because people prioritise tinselly crap over paying their bills.

houseworkhater Mon 01-Apr-13 22:17:26

Thanks for all the replies.

I can see why he might have said no to a cheque now, also he was ok with me telling him I had to come back with the cash ( I must look trustworthy!)

I need a couple of new tyres, a repair to the steering column and a new cover for the brakes.
It is the next working day tomorrow so it does look like I would be covered if I go back there, which I think I will for the ease of things.

It was somebody in the gym who said they wouldn't go back to the garage, when I told them it had failed it's mot they said their friend didn't trust them either although they didn't elaborate, just that they thought he was untrustworthy.

As I don't know him i don't really know what to think. He did ask if I wanted to have the tyres fitted elsewhere and gave me a quote for them.

BoneyBackJefferson Mon 01-Apr-13 23:28:33

here is the retest fee information

I have never been charged for a retest.

ParadiseChick Tue 02-Apr-13 08:19:20

Ask him for a quote for the work needed, make up your own mind about him I'd say!

TheFallenNinja Tue 02-Apr-13 08:25:31

It's remarkable when a car fails its MOT that people suddenly become mechanical geniuses and believe that they are being ripped off.

melika Tue 02-Apr-13 08:43:56

1. The garage owner doesn't have to take a cheque (that might bounce).

2. You can get it repaired elsewhere but take it back for a retest within 10 working days.

3.MOT stations are strictly regulated by VOSA, bad ones get penalised and shut down.

4.I wouldn't got to cheap MOT stations like Kwikfit, I know someone who took car there and had a string of fails, he took it to a reputable garage and had another MOT done, failed on 2 small things. THINK ABOUT IT!

melika Tue 02-Apr-13 08:48:13

5. last one!! If you look up Good Garage Scheme on Google and type in your postcode you can find a great garage nearby with fantastic feedback from customers. Next time, choose one that does MOTs.

Most garages do not advertise, it's word of mouth that counts.

Altinkum Tue 02-Apr-13 08:48:51

Dh car had failed its mot, and the rip off man wanted £680 off him, dh refused to believe it had failed because of the things he stated needed doing, he took it elsewhere and paid £30 for another retest, and it passed.

You can drive the car with a failed not for 10 days, as long as you've got paperwork to prove things are in place to get it fixed.

Feminine Tue 02-Apr-13 08:50:21

This has made me wonder about something...
Before we had our car, my Brother was using it. For quite a while.

Its an old car that my Dad was given ( we were abroad then)

anyway it was my Brother's responsibility to have the car MOT ed.

It 'passed' with a massive crack in the windscreen ( by the wipers) and the back of the wing mirror was missing ( leaving wires exposed) he had obviously had a prang.

We were given the MOT cert and nothing was mentioned.

This year we had to get the MOT done, and of course the windscreen flagged up, 170 ish pounds!

How on earth did my Brother get it through? the garage we used said, it should never have passed. confused do garages do 'favours' I thought that would have been illegal?

SillyTilly123 Tue 02-Apr-13 09:17:56

Theres a place near me charges £30 for a mot. Had it done there last year and it failed on a few things. He told me £120 to fix it. Anyhow I took it to another place to be fixed and it cost me less than £30 to get it fixed. (needed new bulb on reg plate, new front wipers and front lights realigning)

Btw you can only drive a failed car until your last mot certificate has run out, unless you are taking it to be repaired or resested.

melika Tue 02-Apr-13 09:25:35

Feminine, I don't think wing mirrors with missing parts get inspected and the crack would have had to be in what they call area A, it may have started as a chip that spread after test?

Feminine Tue 02-Apr-13 10:11:08

melka no, the crack has always been the same.

We were [shocked] when my brother gave us the car back! smile

We fixed the wing mirror with a part we found on ebay lol!

Feminine Tue 02-Apr-13 10:11:59

sorry, I totally messed up your name melika blush

melika Tue 02-Apr-13 12:45:37

But the crack has still got to be in the prescribed area A.
As long as you can see out of the rear view mirror and there are no sharp edges on them they are ok.

maddening Tue 02-Apr-13 12:48:03

Not taking a cheque does not mean he is not paying taxes - businesses have to pay for cheque processing so this could be the reason.

Ilovemydogandmydoglovesme Tue 02-Apr-13 13:03:05

We bought a car once from a trader with a full years Mot. My dh was the only one that ever used it, neither I or the dc's ever went in it. I had the lovely family car myself.

At its next Mot it failed due to a rear seat belt nearly being torn in two. It must have been like it when we bought it as we hadn't touched the seatbelts so the trader must have put it through illegally. You'd have had to take a knife to it to cause it to tear like it did and we definitely didn't do it ourselves. Put us right off ever using that trader again.

Buzzardbird Tue 02-Apr-13 13:23:50

Have just checked info with dh as he does mots.
you cannot drive a car once it has failed as it is deemed unroadworthy.
he would never accept a cheque off an unknown customer for obvious reasons.
some companies that have been mentioned on here get bonuses for those extra things that need doing so obviously better to use a 'word of mouth' local independent mehanic.

Buzzardbird Tue 02-Apr-13 13:24:33

Apologies for spelling mistakes, my phone is being a right little twat today.

Pantah630 Tue 02-Apr-13 14:29:40

Ok reading this off MOT board in shop. Current fee for class 4 mot (cars) is £54.85 anyone paying less is getting a discounted MOT so fair to be wary of failures. There is a list of free retest items, just been updated, one linked upthread is not up to date, anything else can be charged for. Free retest is within 10 working days but garages can use discretion and not charge if longer if they're trying to keep your business. vosa site

ParadiseChick Tue 02-Apr-13 15:01:07

That's not true buzz

AKAK81 Wed 03-Apr-13 08:31:02

Paradise is correct. You can drive a car after a failed mot as long as the previous mot is still in date. You could however fall foul of construction and use regs if your car is in a dangerous condition.

Pantah630 Wed 03-Apr-13 09:33:24

You are allowed to drive/ride home from a prearranged MOT with a failure in order to fix it yourself, though you would be advised not to if any of the failure items were marked thus DANGEROUS You cannot then drive around with vehicle, unless there is some outstanding MOT left, but vehicle may fall foul of c&u regs as above and must rebook vehicle back in for retest in order to take it back. I run an MOT station, though for classes 1 and 2, the rules regarding retests, apart from free retest items, are the same.

Buzzardbird Sat 06-Apr-13 00:40:52

My point was if you fail an mot with a point that meant your car wad unroadworthy then it is seen by the law as such. Won't matter if you have a valid cert or not. Unroadworthy means unroadworthy. Police will still fine you.

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