For thinking that there might be a brand new cannabis farm being set up in the flat below me? Or am I being over dramatic?

(49 Posts)
EllieArroway Sun 31-Mar-13 13:57:01

I was on here a little while ago asking for advice about my nightmare neighbour who lived below me. Unfortunately, she died rather suddenly so new tenants were found for the flat.

A single man (apparently) moved in. Fine. Nice and quiet so far which is all I really care about.

But:

The shared hall stinks of cannabis all the time. This doesn't bother me much - but it smells a bit different to the usual, smoky smell. It smells more "vegetative", if you see what I mean. And it's permanent.

One man is meant to have moved in - but several different ones let themselves in and out at different times of the day and night. One even rang my bell a few days ago because he didn't have a key to the main front door, just the separate flat door.

Very, very bright lighting can be seen through the glass panel in their front door. Much brighter than have ever been seen with previous tenants.

My worry is that if a farm has been set up, there are quite serious fire risks.

I spoke to my upstairs neighbour and we've discussed the possibility of having a quiet word with the police. But I don't know if there's any justification for that yet - and if we're wrong, we would have to live with one very pissed off neighbour who'd had his home raided by the police on our say so. I don't fancy that much.

So......? What do you think. Anyone have experience of this?

Thanks.

kinkyfuckery Sun 31-Mar-13 13:59:15

It does sound suspicious. Can you phone the police anonymously and ask their advice/what other things you should be on the look out for?

WorraLiberty Sun 31-Mar-13 14:00:46

The police won't raid anyone's home on your say so.

I'd probably call 101 if you're worried and just tell them what you told us.

They won't know who reported them. As long as you haven't mentioned it to the neighbour they won't have reason to suspect you.

skratta Sun 31-Mar-13 14:03:16

I agree...I would be concerned, and I second phoning the non emergency police line to ask.

tiggytape Sun 31-Mar-13 14:04:26

Apparently it is more common than people think. Is your flat feeling very hot all of a sudden (from the heat generated below if they are growing it)? Have they blacked out any windows or always have the curtains shut?
To be honest though the comings and goings and the smell would be enough to report it if you're going to. It isn't like the police will have to tear the place apart to find out - a peek around the front door will confirm whether they're up to anything or not.

Merle Sun 31-Mar-13 14:05:35

Sounds very possible.

Just be careful with what you say if you report it.

EllieArroway Sun 31-Mar-13 14:06:50

The police won't raid anyone's home on your say so

Oh, I know. I just meant that we'd have put the whole thing in motion by contacting the police in the first place. I realise they'd investigate first!

EllieArroway Sun 31-Mar-13 14:09:12

The curtains are permanently shut, yes. I can't say it feels any warmer, but it's hard to say as my central heating pipes run below my floors so they are always warm. Have been listening out for any buzzing from a ventilation system, but can't hear anything.

It's odd.

Yes, the police will call round if you call them. They don't need some giant swat team raid to visit grin

Call them .

fuckwittery Sun 31-Mar-13 14:11:30

Police would probably use info to check out a bit more, any other suspicious signs, I would report as may be a fire risk and I have heard that they will often try to steal electricity from neighbouring properties. Check your electric bill.

Merle Sun 31-Mar-13 14:11:54

they'll also ask the force helicopter to point an infrared camera at the flat, next time it's passing. Easy.

Finola1step Sun 31-Mar-13 14:18:46

Yep call them. We had a rental house in our road that was used as a cannabis farm. You would never have known from the outside but the damage inside was terrible. Do you think the landlord has a clue? Does the landlord do regular inspections? You might also want to check your electricity meter in case there is anything dodgy going on with the electricity - it's not unheard of for people to hook up to legit meters.

IAmNotAMindReader Sun 31-Mar-13 14:21:20

Get in touch with the police. If the smell is pervading the property then it will be detectable outside too. Then you will have any local entrepreneurs trying to liberate the source of the smell for profit.

A friend of mine a few towns over from me had a similar situation and the local populus of that mind started breaking into surrounding properties trying to track it down. The police investigated but they reckon it had been moved by the time they got round to it (a couple of weeks later). Possibly the spate of break ins had spooked them.

MrsWolowitz Sun 31-Mar-13 14:26:01

Call 101.

It does sound suspicious and worth reporting.

Hissy Sun 31-Mar-13 14:26:44

Call the police, and ask for someone to pop round (plain clothes) and see you.

AnyoneforTurps Sun 31-Mar-13 14:27:54

Trafficked children are sometimes used to tend cannabis farms. By alerting the police, you could be protecting a child from exploitation

RainbowsFriend Sun 31-Mar-13 14:30:58

You could contact Crimestoppers anonymously?

EllieArroway Sun 31-Mar-13 15:02:45

Trafficked children are sometimes used to tend cannabis farms Really? I had no idea.

Thank you all for your advice. I think you're right, and will call the police on the non-emergency number. Just wanted to check I wasn't being OTT.

HallelujahHeisRisen Sun 31-Mar-13 15:41:06

they take note of your report. several neighbours had to report before they did anything here. (it was full riot gear according to the electrician who was coming out the other block. he was like shock )

YouTheCat Sun 31-Mar-13 15:45:30

If you report, the police can check the name of the tenant and see if they have any previous convictions for drugs.

JustinBsMum Sun 31-Mar-13 15:51:22

A friend's rented house was used as a c farm and it was wrecked. The damp from sprinklers and humidity destroyed insides. If there really are v bright lights I would def contact police. Who lives below them, are there damp patches on ceilings?

JustinBsMum Sun 31-Mar-13 15:52:21

The farmers in the above case were asian, Vietnamese, I think.

AnyoneforTurps Sun 31-Mar-13 16:12:27

Info on trafficking children for cannabis farms here

nenevomito Sun 31-Mar-13 16:15:31

I'd tell the police as well. If there's nowt going on then nothing will happen, but if there's a cannabis farm, you want rid of it.

HollyBerryBush Sun 31-Mar-13 18:46:12

Try looking through the letter box in the middle of the night - the lights and heat will be on and you will smell the hydroponics.

quoteunquote Sun 31-Mar-13 18:56:01

check your electric meter, they often tap into neighbour's supply,

turn off everything in the house, and then see if the meter is still turning.

The police have been actively asking neighbours to look out for this sort of thing and report it, in b some areas they've given out scratch and sniff cards so m people know what it smells like - definitely report, they'll take it seriously and check it out

littlehalo Wed 10-Apr-13 18:21:59

Any update OP?

OddBoots Wed 10-Apr-13 18:25:08

We had this next door to us a few years ago and the smell you describe sounds right.

I've also heard of them tapping into neighbours electric, or bypassing meters. Both potential fire hazards. Report them asap. If it's as obvious as you say, the Police should be able to spot it a mile off.

I'd tell the police, the smell alone would give them reason to investigate.

<nosy cah here wondering what happened....> :D

TraceyTrickster Sat 13-Apr-13 01:27:05

We had a rental property which was found to be a cannabis farm when the police went to evict the tenants (we are in Aus).

The regular inspections had not helped as they ran it out of the shed in the back yard. Cables etc were buried in the grass/lawn and police said it was a very efficient set up.
We had no idea....but I now think my neighbours are running one as their windows are permanently covered with cardboard..
You can report your suspicions, as the police go in gently until they are reasonably sure.

EllieArroway Sat 13-Apr-13 02:37:01

Update: New neighbour has boarded up the glass panel in his door, changed the lock and installed a mortice and I am currently sitting here sweltering in the flat above his. It's so hot I've turned my own heating off.

My downstairs neighbour has contacted the police - I'll be astonished if this isn't a farm now.

Will keep you nosy cah's updated wink grin

EllieArroway Sat 13-Apr-13 02:37:46

Upstairs neighbour has contacted the police, I mean.

Bogeyface Sat 13-Apr-13 02:50:44

I hope you get a good result, although be prepared for a racket like WWIII at 6 am when they raid the place!

There was a spate of these locally, all in rented houses and all reported by neighbours. Apart from anything else, the smell is horrible, really sickly and nauseating, why the hell should you put up with that?

you should contact them too!

TheRealFellatio Sat 13-Apr-13 04:19:00

But if they are using it as a growing farm they won't actually be living in it, will they? Just coming and going? Are they Vietnamese? ggrin There was a whole really interesting thread on this a couple of months ago with lots of really good pointers on how to spot a cannabis farm. I think the lights will be on all day and night and the windows will be covered.

Also it won't smell of smoke will it? They will be growing it, not smoking it. Not sure if the plant smells of much in its fresh, raw state. It may just be that they smoke a lot of it.

TheRealFellatio Sat 13-Apr-13 04:20:27

Oops, sorry meant to add that apparently many of these 'farmers' who rent houses to grow cannabis are Vietnamese.

EllieArroway Sat 13-Apr-13 05:11:43

No - not Vietnamese, definitely Brits, I think. It's weird - it doesn't sound like anyone is living there - no TV sounds, toilet flushing, conversations, all stuff we normally hear given that it's just a converted house. Just someone leaving regularly at 6.15 am every morning. But it's all very "off" - even other people in the street have mentioned that something doesn't seem quite right.

And, you're right - it's not a smoky smell, it's more "earthy", but definitely cannabis.

TheRealFellatio Sat 13-Apr-13 05:20:39

Hmmm. Wait for him to go out and look through the letterbox for about ten minutes. If it makes you very happy and very mellow you are right. Call the police. grin

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weegiemum Sat 13-Apr-13 05:28:24

The house opposite us at our last address was a cannabis farm. Silvery plastic over the windows, bright light, odd smell, people coming and oing at weird times.

I wasn't around when it was raided, but it took about 6-8 weeks of daily work to repair all the damage!

fuckwittery Sat 13-Apr-13 09:31:18

I would update the police with the feeling very hot thing, also do you share a landlord that you can inform? As they can assist the police in entering the property I think, as they have a right of entry for maintenance and inspection etc.

I remember reading an article a few years ago about a woman who rented out three properties to city types, and it turned out all three were being used as one giant cannabis farmm The houses were wrecked and the amount of money it took to repair the damage meant she was forced to sell the houses just to break even.

quoteunquote Sat 13-Apr-13 12:12:33

I think you need to ring the police and ask for someone to come round, if you are feeling heat, then they will have a lot of lamps on the go,

It's a massive fire risk, the household wiring is not designed to support a full hydroponic and lamp set up, make sure all other neighbours turn off their all electrical items and check their meters are not still turning.

I would ask the police to make sure there is no fire risk, when you phone I would ask them to log that you have informed them you believe there is a fire risk.

they often go up in flames, check all fire alarms in your place, and in the communal hall.

TWinklyLittleStar Sat 13-Apr-13 12:16:14

The smell from cannabis plants is incredibly pungent, it doesn't need to.be smoked to stink to the high heavens and it lingers like you wouldn't believe. I agree that you should make a call to back up your neighbours.

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