AIBU to think that Easter is very English?

(202 Posts)
SodaStreamy Fri 29-Mar-13 11:15:55

It is though isn't it?

England shuts down for 4 days .....Scotland doesn't

Why change the tv schedule .....I wanted to watch this monring but it's off 'for Easter'

I went to England 8 year ago on Easter Sunday and it was shut! England was shut not a single shop open

InNeedOfBrandy Fri 29-Mar-13 11:18:16

I wouldn't say that, I had no idea until a few years ago that you are supposed to eat fish on good friday.

DC's dads are from a different culture thats very Christian and Easter is celebrated, my German grandmother says when she was little Easter was celebrated more then Christmas and it was huge in Germany.

GwennieF Fri 29-Mar-13 11:18:43

Easter is celebrated as a major religious festival in more countries than just England.

LadyBeaEGGleEyes Fri 29-Mar-13 11:19:19

Good Friday is a public holiday today, my surgery is closed but open on Monday.
I think Monday is an official English Bank holiday so the Scottish banks take it as they always do.
I quite like the change in the telly schedules, especially if there's a decent old movie on.

Movingtimes Fri 29-Mar-13 11:21:52

That's a very ahistorical view you are taking there! Easter is the most important feast in the Christian calendar and if you go to any southern European country you will find that it is celebrated far more than it is in England. Greece, in particular, makes a huge deal of Easter. So do most Catholic countries.

HollyBerryBush Fri 29-Mar-13 11:21:59

If you think Easter is English you should try being in a more catholic country over religious festivals.

Not sure where you are but everything is open in London, although there will be Sunday trading hours.

MoetEtPantsOn Fri 29-Mar-13 11:22:10

I'm in Australia. Many more things are shut here at Easter than in England. And Good Friday is a ghost town everywhere here. Well, except touristy bits.

I think catholic countries go even harder. We went to Ireland at Easter years ago and couldn't get a drink anywhere on Good Friday.

MoetEtPantsOn Fri 29-Mar-13 11:22:55

X post with everyone!

ilovesooty Fri 29-Mar-13 11:25:55

That's a very ahistorical view you are taking there! Easter is the most important feast in the Christian calendar and if you go to any southern European country you will find that it is celebrated far more than it is in England. Greece, in particular, makes a huge deal of Easter. So do most Catholic countries

Malta too.

CarpeVinum Fri 29-Mar-13 11:26:27

Not really just an English thing.

<dodges crucifix infested procession taking up the whole road in rural Italy>

You should see the size of the easter eggs here. Mostly fluffy foil admittedly. But massive all the same.

Interestingly, though, even though Americans are overall more religious, there isn't any public holiday for Easter in the US (not Friday or Monday).

Here in France we just have the Monday off.

QuickLookBusy Fri 29-Mar-13 11:27:18

All the shops are open around here today-south of England. I remember when everything shut on Good Friday bit it's certainly not the case anymore.

There are many countries who celebrate Easter far more than we do. Have you led a sheltered life OP?

kelda Fri 29-Mar-13 11:28:06

In Belgium Easter is a very popular holiday. Today is not a bank holiday but the school are all celebrating Easter. We have Easter Monday as a holiday.

The shops are full of chocolate eggs etc. and Easter trees - branches that are decorated with eggs.

SodaStreamy Fri 29-Mar-13 11:30:33

So is Easter Catholic?

Maybe that's why we don't close down in Scotland because a large percentage here are Protestant??

LadyBeaEGGleEyes Fri 29-Mar-13 11:30:48

I spent Easter in Greece one year, I was au pairing in Athens, and went to the Peleponnese (sp) for the weekend with some Greek friends.
It's huge over there, we went to a village where they slaughtered a lamb in the village square and then it was barbecued and we all got pissed on retsina.
I also went to the Easter service, which I didn't understand, but very atmospheric.

LynetteScavo Fri 29-Mar-13 11:31:10

I think Easter is a very Catholic thing, and therefore Catholic countries like to celebrate it - but I was shopping in Vancouver one Easter day, and was wished "Happy Bunny Day" several times.

Anyway, where are the Easter bunny ears on the Smileys?

LadyBeaEGGleEyes Fri 29-Mar-13 11:32:39

Yes, where are the bunny ears, Lynette?

LynetteScavo Fri 29-Mar-13 11:32:53

My DCs Catholic school put as much effort in to Easter as Christmas. It's great, except my DC insisted on buying every adult who works with them some sort of chocolate bunny/egg which got a bit expensive.

FakeHotCrossLobsters Fri 29-Mar-13 11:33:06

Someone linked this on Facebook earlier.

Creepy Vintage Easter Cards

HormoneHell Fri 29-Mar-13 11:33:26

I've never been to a Christian country that makes less of a deal about Easter than England does (but then I've never been to Scotland).

When I lived in Italy it was a huge event with parades and family feasts and nothing open for days. When I lived in the US I was amazed that it was like Christmas: schools had secret bunny post services to deliver mountains if cards sent between pupils and children received gifts as well as chocolate.

In England we all have a chance to rest for 4 days and have a bit of chocolate, that's it as far as I can see.

CarpeVinum Fri 29-Mar-13 11:35:32

So is Easter Catholic?

It's Christian, and Catholics are Christians.

flippinada Fri 29-Mar-13 11:36:05

Easter is a "big deal" in Scotland in the save way it is in England.

We have four days off and shops shut up here too.

rainbunnieseatingalltheeggs Fri 29-Mar-13 11:36:08

Try being in Ireland the kids have 2 weeks off for Easter,starting last week.They are not back till the the 8th of April. Its very looooooooonnnnnnnnnnnng and what makes it worse is the weather you really cant go anywhere.

Plus we dont sell alcohol here on Good Friday so hows that for a fucking laugh.
Im well stocked up though.

HormoneHell Fri 29-Mar-13 11:36:21

Oh, and I'm in London where none if rhe shops or restaurants are closed today,

flippinada Fri 29-Mar-13 11:36:31

The same way, not sane.

QuickLookBusy Fri 29-Mar-13 11:36:45

I think you just answered my question with your last post Op!

CloudsAndTrees Fri 29-Mar-13 11:37:15

When I was little, my Scottish family made us decorate hard boiled eggs then find a hill to roll then down. And we'd get chocolate eggs on top.

I always thought the Scots I'd Easter better than my English family.

CloudsAndTrees Fri 29-Mar-13 11:37:30

I'd meant did!

infamouspoo Fri 29-Mar-13 11:38:38

sunday is my shopping day. Everything is shut. I am narked. meh

theodorakisses Fri 29-Mar-13 11:38:45

You should have tried growing up in Greece! Endless sheep brain soups, church visits and everything closed for 8 days.

You should try being in Spain this weekend when the Semana Santa processions are kicking off! Here

Theicingontop Fri 29-Mar-13 11:39:09

..Wait, you're supposed to eat fish today?

haggisaggis Fri 29-Mar-13 11:39:41

My kids are at school today and I'm at work (Scotland). Up to a few years ago we also worked Easter Monday. I think (but haven't checked) that Good Friday is not a recognised Scottish holiday - but as with so much in Scotland it varies greatly from region to region.

In Cyprus Easter is the BIG holiday, far more important than Christmas.

Squitten Fri 29-Mar-13 11:41:03

Easter is celebrated much more in other countries, especially Catholic ones. Easter itself is not specifically Catholic though - it's a Christian festival bolted onto older pagan spring festivals.

wearingpurple Fri 29-Mar-13 11:43:33

The most 'Easter-ish' Easter I ever experienced was in Bavaria.

CadleCrap Fri 29-Mar-13 11:44:10

Carpe There are branches of Christianity. All hoovers are vacuums but not all vacuums are hovers iyswim. Some branches of Christianity recognise all saints day - others don't, doesn't make them any more or less Christian.

I am in Oz and the only things open today (good Friday) are the pubs grin. I am also Scottish and remember going to school on Good Friday (old gimmer)

LynetteScavo Fri 29-Mar-13 11:46:30

You're supposed to eat fish every Friday people, chill out.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Timetoask Fri 29-Mar-13 11:47:21

Do you mean "English" as in compared to the rest of the UK?
Other Christian countries celebrate Easter in a big way. Herein England it all seems to be about chocolate eggs, so no,I would say it is not an English thing at all.

SodaStreamy Fri 29-Mar-13 11:50:53

err no fillida all Scottish shops are open . Hence my OP England closes Scotland doesn't

sarahtigh Fri 29-Mar-13 11:51:54

I think you would find most of Europe is a great deal more shut down at Easter than England/scotland

in terms of spiritual significance Easter is far more important to Christianity than Christmas

Theicingontop Fri 29-Mar-13 11:51:59

Didn't even realise it was good Friday until I looked up the train times and wondered why they were weird. Does anyone even bother with today anymore?

SodaStreamy Fri 29-Mar-13 11:52:40

hard boiled painted eggs to roll down a hill.......yah i've done that

flippinada Fri 29-Mar-13 11:54:04

Well yes some are open, like supermarkets (which seem to be constantly open anyway) and chains but smaller ones shut.

Also was in England last Easter and shops were definitely open.

sarahtigh Fri 29-Mar-13 11:55:40

Scotland was traditionally largely presbyterian which does not major on festivals hence not being so catholic / high church; easter was of lesser importance that say England

The church of scotland is presbyterian not anglican the equivalent Cof E in scotland is called the episcopalian church

LadyBeaEGGleEyes Fri 29-Mar-13 12:03:36

Oh yes the hard boiled egg rolling down a hill grin
I did that when I was a kid too, I lived in Edinburgh and we always used to go to Penicuik (sp) in the freezing cold.
What a totally pointless exercise it was, looking back but it was one of those childhood rituals.

SodaStreamy Fri 29-Mar-13 12:04:55

Indeed @ sarahligh

I'm Scottish

What do you mean by the 'High Church' ?

Montybojangles Fri 29-Mar-13 12:06:56

Ha ha ha, go to Greece/cyprus for the Greek orthodox Easter. Then you may change your mind (if you survive the fireworks being chucked onto bonfires, Guns fired in the air and all night party from sat night right through to Sunday).

roulade Fri 29-Mar-13 12:08:03

Easter is the most important festival of the Christian calendar. It is far more important than Christmas.

Montybojangles Fri 29-Mar-13 12:09:00

It's not until the beginning of May this year by the way, so you have time to plan a second easter if you fancy...

HollyBerryBush Fri 29-Mar-13 12:13:43

So is Easter Catholic?

No it's a Christian celebration.

LadyBeaEGGleEyes Fri 29-Mar-13 12:16:25

grin Monty.
That's the type of Easter i had in Greece which i mentioned upthread.
After the 'Christ is Risen' bit, it was a huge party.

KenDoddsDadsDog Fri 29-Mar-13 12:18:54

Blimey - I lived in Spain and Easter is hard core over there. Think self flagellating , lots of Semana Santa church ceremonies and walks.
England is tame in comparison.

CarpeVinum Fri 29-Mar-13 12:22:41

There are branches of Christianity

Yes. But that doesn't change the reality that Easter is a christian festival celebrated by Catholics, becuase they are christians, rather than because Easter is Catholic. Which is what my post was addressing.

thewhistler Fri 29-Mar-13 12:24:08

Good Friday may not be recognised in eg Wee Free or secular areas, but I bet it is in Barra...

As it is in Lutheran and indeed some Calvinist areas on the continent, eg Germany and Geneva, as well as Catholic, eg Bavaria, Malta, Italy, Spain, Orthodox eg Greece, Romanian. I love their Easters and the family get togethers, though the hours long Easter services of the Orthodox with minimal audience participation get me down. But the red eggs afterwards are great.

Theologically far more important than Christmas, where eg the populism of the crib was developed by St Francis and redness of Santa by Coca Cola. And is not important to eg the Wee Frees.

Good Friday is a fast day. Every Friday was and even after the reformation in England you were legally obliged to eat fish not meat , to help the fishing fleets. Hence the serving of fish and chips in canteens on Friday.

Montybojangles Fri 29-Mar-13 12:26:54

Lady blush didn't realise there was a second page of this, just spotted it (durr)
Christos Anesti!

ReallyTired Fri 29-Mar-13 12:28:54

"Carpe There are branches of Christianity. All hoovers are vacuums but not all vacuums are hovers iyswim. Some branches of Christianity recognise all saints day - others don't, doesn't make them any more or less Christian. "

Erm... I think that all christians recongise Easter. Its not just a "saints" day, its most important event in the entire history of mankind for christians.

For me the entire events of holy week are important as it puts the ressurection into context. I think that some nominal christians shy away from wanting to think about the horror that happened in holy week.

thewhistler Fri 29-Mar-13 12:29:31

Anesti Alethos.

Beveridge Fri 29-Mar-13 12:35:19

Blame John Knox.

Christmas Day wasn't a public holiday in Scotland till 1957. Santa used to come at New Year instead.

WorraLiberty Fri 29-Mar-13 12:35:46

How strange.

I'm in England and I've just got back from Morrisons which was very much open...and will be open tomorrow too and Monday.

It's shut on Easter Sunday but that's the only day of the year, apart from Christmas day that it'll be shut.

we are christians but don't celebrate Easter. I think many Christians don't. perhaps this is why America doesn't wholesale acknowledge it either?

binger Fri 29-Mar-13 12:46:38

I'm in Scotland and it's a massive deal here. Loads of places are off the Friday and Monday. Shops are open but companies are closed.

KindleMum Fri 29-Mar-13 12:46:45

YABVU. It's the main and defining event of the Christian calendar. The UK is a fairly secular country. But if you ever notice Europe, you would see that Holy Week and Easter are major events there. If you think the Catholics go to town for it, you should really see how the Russian and Greek Orthodox celebrate it. England barely acknowledges Easter, it's mainly a bank-holiday-sales thing here.

SodaStreamy Fri 29-Mar-13 13:00:08

@roulade

why?

serious question ...and why does they date of Easter change every year if it is such an important date?

Alligatorpie Fri 29-Mar-13 13:09:44

In Canada we celebrate way more than i have ever seen in England. It is a bit OTT with easter egg hunts / parties but is loads of fun!

FoofFighter Fri 29-Mar-13 13:24:28

Am in Scotland and really missing Easter back home in England, I'm used ot it being a big deal, a lovely holiday along the same lines as the Christmas break.

Considering Easter is supposed to be even more important than Christmas I cannot understand why it's business as usual.
The kids are off school for once though as that's just the way it's fallen, last few years they've been there Good Friday and Easter Monday.

sad

Talkinpeace Fri 29-Mar-13 13:30:01

poocatcher
I'm slightly bemused by the thought of a Christian who does not do Easter.
Easter is the reason there is Christianity.

sodastream
Easter is linked to passover (the last supper was a passover supper because Jesus was, of course, Jewish.
It is the first Sunday after the first Full moon after the Spring Equinox.
And the Orthodox church use the old calendar so their one this year is next month.

INeedThatForkOff Fri 29-Mar-13 13:33:00

Er, the kids have two weeks off here too.

Easter in Germany is really lovely.

Talkinpeace Fri 29-Mar-13 13:45:37

Foofighter
Good Friday and Easter Monday are bank holidays in Scotland.
www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/People/bank-holidays/
School holidays are ALWAYS over Easter.
No school is open on those days in the UK. Ever.

Montybojangles Fri 29-Mar-13 13:50:16

smile thewhistler

ChocsAwayInMyGob Fri 29-Mar-13 13:51:38

Easter is not English. Easter is the bedrock of all branches of Christianity. Easter remembers that Christ died and rose again. Without this bit, Jesus would have just been remembered as a nice man or a prophet. Easter is the important bit that kind of cements the Son of God stuff and makes it so relevant to Christianity. The resurrection and the everlasting life are defining points of the faith, and not just in England!

Easter is celebrated in all christian countries, Catholic, Orthodox and Anglican.

Annunziata Fri 29-Mar-13 14:05:25

I wish I was back in Sicily watching the processions sad

I am however in Scotland and it seems a big deal here, not like Christmas though. We do live in a fairly Catholic area though.

FoofFighter Fri 29-Mar-13 14:07:02

Talkin, sorry but you are indeed incorrect on the schools thing. My own children have been to school on those days many times in the past up here.

Yes the banks are closed as are offices that rely on things like benefits centres and tax office.

QuickLookBusy Fri 29-Mar-13 14:13:32

I really can't believe schools are open anywhere in the UK today.

Unless it's some kind of private school which is non Christian.

LadyBeaEGGleEyes Fri 29-Mar-13 14:21:17

I'm in Scotland and the 2 week Easter break always coincides with Good Friday and Easter Monday.
Easter for me is chocolate eggs and a roast lamb on Sunday, I inherited that from Greece, where I'll cook it with garlic, lemon and oregano.
Then I like to watch a nice film, The Sound of Music would do it, otherwise something like Ben Hur or The Greatest Story Ever Told, which even if you're an athiest is a cracking good story.
John Wayne as the Centurian is a joy.

gordyslovesheep Fri 29-Mar-13 14:21:41

all the English shops are also open ...

HoneyStepMummy Fri 29-Mar-13 14:22:53

Americans don't celebrate Easter??? Not at all true. The largest groups of immigrants in the US came from Germany, Ireland, and Italy. Easter is just as much of a big deal here as when I still lived in the UK. I'm off work today (Good Friday) and we're having fish tonight.
Sunday the shops, gym etc are closing very early.

I am in the US. Easter is not such a big deal as kids only get Friday and Monday off. Some places are closed on Sunday. Easter egg hunts are huge though and you have to buy piles of plastic eggs full of candy to hide. Easter gift baskets are common for the kids too because poor deprived American kids need gifts at every holiday. A ham is common for Easter Sunday meal (but we will have to have a polish feast instead :/)

WilsonFrickett Fri 29-Mar-13 14:29:02

Scottish schools are always off on Easter. I'm Scottish, I went to school here, schools are always off. A couple of years ago they were off for a fortnight, back for four days, then off for Good Friday/Easter Monday the next week.

OP: have you heard of the term 'a moveable feast?' - it refers to Easter. It is a feast day that moves because it's linked to the equinox (I think...)

ithaka Fri 29-Mar-13 14:29:50

I can assure you some state schools are open in Scotland. My friends lives in Angus & all the schools are open today and the children are in.

thegreylady Fri 29-Mar-13 14:34:17

sodastreamy "Is Easter Catholic?" errrrrr....Easter is just the most important Christian festival.

KitCat26 Fri 29-Mar-13 14:38:46

England doesn't really shut down for four days though. Big shops are all open today, most with reduced hours though. Only on Easter sunday are most places shut.

I didn't used to like the Easter holidays much as a child because we seem to spend most of it in church blush (am a Catholic).

Maundy Thursday evening service, walk of witness on Good Friday morning, fasting for that day (no meat-eat less that sort of thing), Good Friday service at 3pm, then the Easter vigil service late saturday night. Oh and Easter sunday at mum's with a huge curry and all the family. Lovely.

Now I quite enjoy it and it doesn't seem like Easter unless I've been to church lots.

Talkinpeace Fri 29-Mar-13 14:39:07

ithaka
but they ARE closed for Easter Monday
www.angus.gov.uk/services/view_service_detail.cfm?serviceid=1115
and I am very surprised at them being open on Good Friday - but they are next year as well. Maybe somebody does not understand Easter there...

thegreylady Fri 29-Mar-13 14:39:14

Easter is a moveable feast-no one knows the exact historical dates,it is not an anniversary it is a celebration of the very centre of Christianity.
The key day is Easter Sunday so I can just about see some schools in Scotland opening today but I bet they aren't open on Monday.

Subjecttosurvey Fri 29-Mar-13 14:40:12

Poocatcher, how can you not celebrate Easter as a Christian??? Genuine question!

Als wrt to eating fish on Good Friday (and all Fridays), I thought that the "rule" for Catholics was to not eat red meat, as opposed to "must eat fish"....but I could be wrong. But I don't think so tbh.

Talkinpeace Fri 29-Mar-13 14:42:13

thegreylady
no one knows the exact historical dates
NOT the reason.

The last supper was a Passover supper.
Passover is set by the full moon and the spring equinox - so Easter moves too.
If Jesus had existed, they would have known what year it was and thus been able to work out the actual date he was Crucified.
But he didn't so the festival piggybacks the existing ones.

The date of Christmas was set to coincided with the Winter Equinox festivals after all.

mummytime Fri 29-Mar-13 14:42:44

Easter moves as it is linked to the Passover, the date of the Passover is linked to the lunar not solar year. The earliest splits in the Church (Catholic v Orthodox) were over exactly how to calculate the date of Easter. Some years Passover, and the Western (Catholic) and Orthodox Easter co incide. This year Passover and Western Easter co incide, Orthodox is may 5th.

Subjecttosurvey Fri 29-Mar-13 14:45:04

Talkinpeace... " if Jesus existed....but he didn't so"... Bit inflammatory and disrespectful when there are clearly a lot of Christians on this thread.

I'm in Scotland, and neither DH nor I get today or Monday as a holiday. DC are off school, but the library and post offices etc are open.

Happy Easter everyone.

IThinkOfHappyWhenIThinkOfYou Fri 29-Mar-13 14:48:43

I thought that the "rule" for Catholics was to not eat red meat, as opposed to "must eat fish"....but I could be wrong. But I don't think so tbh.

You're right.

I was going to make a special fish thing but was shouted down.

"We have fish every friday, why can't we have something else?"

We've had heinz tomato soup.

Dcs school make a bigger deal of Easter than Christmas, they've barely been off their knees all week. I don't think that is reflected in society at all. I was in Sicily one year at Easter, I could hardly believe my eyes.

Also in Scotland. I work in a university and am working today and Monday. I don't know any shops etc which are closed over Easter here. The only friends who are off today/Mon are those who work for local authorities or govt. Monday is not a public holiday in Scotland, but today is. My bank is open on Monday. I know this because I have a mortgage appointment.
We did go to Ireland once for Easter weekend. It was shut. Only place we could get a drink on the Friday was in our hotel, and that was residents only.

haggisaggis Fri 29-Mar-13 14:50:53

Schools ARE in today in Angus (think we get St Andrews day instead!!) but off on Monday as that is start of Easter holidays. However last year I drove to work on Easter Monday and noticed Dundee schools were in...(State schools, not private)

sarahtigh Fri 29-Mar-13 14:52:59

sodastreamy high church is the anglo-catholic wing of CofE sometimes called high anglican as opposed to low church which was the more evangelical plainer version

haggisaggis Fri 29-Mar-13 14:54:01

As mentioned before, you cannot really ever say that one thing applies all over Scotland - school holidays, local holidays etc vary very much from council to council.

Talkinpeace Fri 29-Mar-13 14:57:19

subjecttosurvey
there are also some stunningly uninformed people and I'm still trying to understand the person who said they were Christian but does not celebrate Easter. Without the crucifixion and the resurrection, which bits of the core tenets of the faith DO they celebrate?

bruffin Fri 29-Mar-13 14:57:54

I want flounas now!!!!

sarahtigh Fri 29-Mar-13 15:09:11

the last supper was actually a celebration of passover and is the first sunday after the full moon after the spring equinox so its dates can vary by upto about 30 days from the last week of march to last week of April (22nd march to 25th april)

according to biblical history it is known when Jesus died at passover as opposed to his birth which is guesswork what Jesus did say at passover was to remember him in the eating of bread and drinking wine ( commonly called communion./mass/ the lord's supper etc)

presbyterians generally did not celebrate Easter or christmas ( this has changed more recently) as there is no specific biblical commandment to celebrate these as festivals. stricter presbyterians worship according to the regulative principle in that only things specifically commanded in the bible such as communion and baptism are in public worship, the other view is that anything can be part of worship unless specifically forbidden

GreenShadow Fri 29-Mar-13 15:09:48

There's a very interesting and informative write up on Easter and it's history in the Huffington Post
All from a non-religious angle.

sarahtigh Fri 29-Mar-13 15:13:22

some Christians like presbyterians and evangelical baptists and other reformed churches do not have crucifixes or altars

they do believe in crucifixion and resurrection but believe that the way to remember Christs death is via the communion service, a lot of Christians do not agree with crucifixes, altars, images of any kind

the word Easter is not mentioned in the bible at all; the one reference in some translations is actually a mistranslation of passover

JollyYellowGiant Fri 29-Mar-13 15:16:09

Our GP surgery is open. Our shops are open. We are in Scotland.

But England make a bigger thing about public holidays in general. We don't have the bank holiday weekend madness that goes on over the border, for any national or local holiday.

infamouspoo Fri 29-Mar-13 15:18:15

Jesus, being jewish, wouldnt have eaten bread at passover. It would have been unleaveved matzoh.
<had 5 days of the stuff now. shudder>

Subjecttosurvey Fri 29-Mar-13 15:20:45

I don't know talkinpeace; that's why I asked them upthread.

JollyYellowGiant Fri 29-Mar-13 15:23:03

In Aberdeen City and Shire, the school spring break is the first two weeks in April every year. This means than they do not necessarily coincide with Easter. Spring school holidays in Scotland are therefore not ALWAYS over Easter as someone stated. The local authorities choose their own term dates, in service days and local holidays.

Talkinpeace Fri 29-Mar-13 15:28:47

Poocatcherchampion
at 12.38 you posted
we are christians but don't celebrate Easter. I think many Christians don't.
Could you elaborate?
The only Christians I'm aware of who do NOT celebrate Easter are Quakers (who are not big on festivals of any sort) and Jehovah's (ditto)
But surely as a Christian you are aware that they are very unusual in that.

Bue Fri 29-Mar-13 15:40:37

I am genuinely staggered by the number of people who don't seem to understand Easter confused

But there are certainly Christians (or Christian offshoots) who don't really "do" Easter. Some Quakers see themselves as Christian, and I'm pretty sure the Unitarian Universalists don't believe in the Resurrection.

CrystalQueen Fri 29-Mar-13 15:54:15

Isn't it more that Bank Holidays are not a big deal in Scotland? I am biased in that I work somewhere where they are ignored (university - just all lumped into our annual leave) but I don't ever really remember my dad having the day off, or things being shut. The mass travel for a bank holiday weekend is definitely an English thing (sorry don't know about Wales).

Talkinpeace Fri 29-Mar-13 15:57:49

Bue
Some Quakers see themselves as Christian
Sorry? Are there Quakers who do NOT regard themselves as Christian?

IThinkOfHappyWhenIThinkOfYou Fri 29-Mar-13 16:55:34

communion bread is unleavened bread

LynetteScavo Fri 29-Mar-13 16:57:24

I've never met a Quaker who didn't "do" Easter.

They may not do it quite like Catholics, but Easter is still celebrated by Quakers, IME.

So is Easter Catholic?
One of the more bizarre questions I've seen on MN. hmm
I suggest you revise your Scottish history OP, maybe start with John Knox?

Muser Fri 29-Mar-13 17:09:07

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Bue
Some Quakers see themselves as Christian
Sorry? Are there Quakers who do NOT regard themselves as Christian?

Yes, there are. You don't have to believe in a Christian god, or god at all, to be a Quaker. http://www.quaker.org.uk/quaker-beliefs

Muser Fri 29-Mar-13 17:10:07

It would help if I remembered to click the convert links box! www.quaker.org.uk/quaker-beliefs

PollyEthelEileen Fri 29-Mar-13 17:12:09

Easter Monday is a secular holiday.

They have Good Friday off in Scotland, surely?

scottishtablet Fri 29-Mar-13 17:13:16

We are in Scotland and do have Good Friday off, I can never, ever remember schools etc being open on GF.

Talkinpeace Fri 29-Mar-13 17:13:18

Muser
My father's family are Quakers. I used to go to meeting when I was visiting him.
I was always taught that it was a very mellow and inclusive form of Christianity.

Talkinpeace Fri 29-Mar-13 17:13:59

scottishtablet
as per the link up thread, every school in Angus is open today.

morethanpotatoprints Fri 29-Mar-13 17:14:08

Was Jesus English then? Surely he was Jewish.
I think anyone who is a Christian is glad that shops and other distractions are closed.
Maybe not so much fun for none believers, but then it isn't Easter for them, what do atheists call Easter, I have often wondered this.

scottishtablet Fri 29-Mar-13 17:16:10

I stand corrected then!

Talkinpeace Fri 29-Mar-13 17:16:19

morethanpotatoprints
We call it Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday. And my kids LOVE chocolate chickens from Lidl.

honeytea Fri 29-Mar-13 17:18:51

I am in Sweden and they celebrate Easter much more than the UK, eaver home has twigs with feathers and decorations on and the kids dress up as easter witches and go around asking for sweets (like trick or treat-ing)

The govenrment run alcohol shops are shut till tuesday which is a bugger because we are having dinner guests on sunday and I forgot to buy any wine Other shops are open but then they are open on Christmas day too.

Muser Fri 29-Mar-13 17:19:23

My mum's a Quaker Talkinpeace and has always taught me it's mostly Christian but not exclusive and it's not really polite to ask other Quakers! She's a more recent, umm, convert? Not the right word but it will do. But maybe they are focusing more on publicising the "not necessarily Christian" angle more these days? I certainly know Quakers through her who would not identify as Christian.

LadyBeaEGGleEyes Fri 29-Mar-13 17:21:53

Well good for them morethan, and just because they're Christian everybody else should be inconvenienced.
Atheists call Easter um Easter, and Christmas Christmas, strangely enough.
What do you suggest it's called?

Ohhelpohnoitsa Fri 29-Mar-13 17:22:14

Catholic countries tend to celebrate Easter more than Chritmas. I think yabu.

Talkinpeace Fri 29-Mar-13 17:22:18

Muser
Have you been to a meeting with her? I used to love it. My grandfather was one of the elders and he used to have wonderfully poetic thoughts. My dad never spoke and pretty much stopped going once my grandfather died.
Even once I came out as an atheist, I could tolerate meeting as its meditation for me.

elQuintoConyo Fri 29-Mar-13 17:24:49

Come to Spain: they're all wearing their KKK outfits in rainbow colours and walking through town barefoot.
Everything's shut.

Muser Fri 29-Mar-13 17:26:28

Talkinpeace I haven't but I would like to see what they are like. The way she talks about it makes it sound very interesting, if I am ever visiting her on the right day I will go along. She's certainly become a much happier person since finding the Quakers.

complexnumber Fri 29-Mar-13 17:32:22

Blimey! I can still buy a beer in the hotels in Oman!

digerd Fri 29-Mar-13 17:32:59

When I lived in Northern Germany, it was more about the Easter Bunny, and saw loads of chocolate bunnys in the shops

morethanpotatoprints Fri 29-Mar-13 17:36:07

*LadyBea.

I wasn't suggesting you called it anything, just asking really.
Another poster said its just friday, saturday, sunday and monday. Which tbh seems a bit obvious now. grin

SnookyPooky Fri 29-Mar-13 17:38:52

Massive holiday here in Cyprus where they are Greek Orthodox, I would say on a par with Christmas. 5 day long weekend too.

SnookyPooky Fri 29-Mar-13 17:41:51

And our Easter is late this year, Good Friday is on 3rd May.

Talkinpeace Fri 29-Mar-13 17:42:09

Snooky
but of course yours is not for another month ....

chickensaladagain Fri 29-Mar-13 17:42:20

Someone said up thread that the shops in London will be open on Sunday

Well if they are over 3000sq ft they won't!

Corner shops only on Sunday

roulade Fri 29-Mar-13 17:49:49

@ Sodastreamy Sorry I went to church so didn't see your question. It has been answered by loads of others though!

Lindyhopper29 Fri 29-Mar-13 17:55:59

I'm in Scotland and all shops were open a usual today and will be n Monday, but not banks and council-run facilities.

Good Friday is a holiday here but Easter Monday isn't.

ithaka Fri 29-Mar-13 19:54:16

It seems odd to ask what atheists call easter. It is more remarkable that christians use the term 'easter' for what they consider a religious festival, as I always understood the name to be derived from an ancient fertility goddess.

Anyway, interesting to learn that schools being open in scotland is linked to presbetyrianism. My mum actually mentioned this morning when she saw the schools in Angus were open 'they must be very protestant up there' - seems mother knows best, as usual.

NoHaudinMaWheest Fri 29-Mar-13 20:25:23

Presbyterians and others of the Reformed Christian traditional have not celebrated Easter, Christmas and other church festivals because of the regulative principles of worship (only things actually commanded in the Bible are allowed in public worship) as Sarahtigh said upthread.
So as Scotland was historically a presbyterian country these festivals were not celebrated although a bit of folk tradition did remain which is where egg-rolling comes from I think. As the country has become more secular and more influenced by other cultures, Easter and Christmas have been celebrated more and this is true of the main presbyterian Church of Scotland.
I think this is why the amount of celebration, holiday etc varies throughout the country. Along with the fact that Scotland doesn't have the wholesale Bank Holiday tradition that England does.

Smaller, more traditional presbyterian churches in Scotland have continued not to celebrate church festivals. However though they may not celebrate Easter that does not mean that they do not celebrate the cruxifiction and resurrection of Christ. Every Sunday is a celebration of the resurrection that is why churches have services on Sunday.

Incidentially Wee Free is a fairly insulting term for the Free Church of Scotland.

plaingirly Fri 29-Mar-13 20:30:20

Jehovah's Witnesses do some Easter Passover thing after sundown - it was last Tuesday.

^was invited but slightly terrified worried that I was being recruited.--

Clayhead Fri 29-Mar-13 20:36:36

I am in England and we have the first two weeks of April off school regardless of when Easter falls too, as do the adjoining counties/authorities.

AmIthatWintry Fri 29-Mar-13 20:40:39

Well, I'm in Scotland and Easter is prominent here. I have today and Monday off.

Nothing to do with protestant/catholic (yawn) shite.

Two of our public holiday days for the year

And on Sunday, we will be rolling our eggs grin

montage Fri 29-Mar-13 20:43:29

The pubs close by midnight on Holy Thursday in Ireland and don't open until Saturday.

Alcohol can't be sold anywhere.

DizzyHoneyBee Fri 29-Mar-13 20:44:55

I was in mainland Europe this time last year, Easter was a really big deal over there, much more so than here where all the shops were open today.

montage Fri 29-Mar-13 20:45:37

And we have this legend of St Patrick at Easter which I've always liked but reading in now reminds me of Harry Potter and his Patronus grin

"On Easter night long ago it was forbidden to light any other fire in Ireland until after the lighting of the High King's own bonfire. When the High King saw that Saint Patrick was lighting the fire he sent a warband to kill the Saint and quench the fire. But the fire could not be quenched and Saint Patrick and his followers passed the warriors in disguise of a herd of deer and they went onto defeat the royal druids at Tara in a contest of miracle working. Many of the King's court bowed down to Saint Patrick and were converted, even though the High King was not one of these he did grant the Saint free speech and the right to preach freely to the people of Ireland." (from HistoryofStPatrick website).

aldiwhore Fri 29-Mar-13 20:52:04

I thought it was until I went to Cyprus (greek end) one Easter, it's actually not very English at all.

Even 'english' bank holidays aren't what they were (religion aside... it's actually easy to do, even at Easter) seeing as most places are open at some point.

The Easter Bunny wasn't really a BIG THING in my childhood, that's been brought over from the US I think.

I'm from a small village in the SW on England so the religious and the traditional, and cultural have always overlapped... now the Church is a chorus line to a more modern local cultural and modern tradition, I suppose it differs all over. Easter and Spring and Pagan tradition have merged with school holidays. Just like Christmas has. I have no problem with it, being agnostic, don't mind if Christians want to keep their celebrations 'clean'but never thought how if differed to other UK countries.

moggiek Fri 29-Mar-13 20:58:27

Thank you, flip. I was worrying that everyone thought we were heathens up here!

cardibach Fri 29-Mar-13 21:05:30

Really Clayhead ? Which county? Only I am a teacher and have worked in 4 different local authorites and have friends in many more and I don't know any with a fixed Easter break. In fact, the movable Easter break is a regular topic of discussion with people wanting to change the term pattern.

QuintEggSensuality Fri 29-Mar-13 21:08:27

You think ENGLAND shuts down?

You have never been to Norway.

The week before Easter is called The Quiet Week. Most offices close. The day before Good Friday is super holy, and Every thing is closed on Thursday, Friday, Sunday, Monday and Tuesdays. Grocery shops are open saturday morning 10-15. All restaurants, pubs, clubs, wine bars, wine shops, corner shops, are closed.
You might find one or two petrol stations open.

Town centers are deserted.

WallyBantersJunkBox Fri 29-Mar-13 21:09:35

Easter is huge in most European countries. My DC has two weeks holiday. It's a longer and more religious holiday here (Switzerland) than Christmas.

We don't celebrate the key dates afterwards in the UK either (eg ascension day) as they do in France, Germany, Switzerland.

Apart from twinkly lights there are just as many decorations - a billion candles in egg shapes and wicker chickens. confused

QuintEggSensuality Fri 29-Mar-13 21:11:37

Ascension is also a bank holiday in Norway, along with Pentecost.

thewhistler Fri 29-Mar-13 21:21:53

Sorry, mawheest, didn't mean to be insulting, just that with an ancestor who came out at the Disruption (spending the first night under a hedge and the next few in a barn with wife, bairns including newborn ) that's what we've always called The Free Church.

But quite right to pick me up and I won't use it on MN.

Talkinpeace Fri 29-Mar-13 21:26:07

I was not aware that the spring holiday is always the school break in England,
but then my kids are only teenagers and DH only works in education

the late may bank holiday in England is technically Pentecost but has become locked ....

Mrsdoyle1 Fri 29-Mar-13 21:30:36

Talkinpeace... " if Jesus existed....but he didn't so"... Bit inflammatory and disrespectful when there are clearly a lot of Christians on this thread.

So Christians are permitted to talk about the existence of Jesus as a fact, but non-believers are not permitted to talk about the non-existence of Jesus as a fact? Why do religious people think that their beliefs deserve to be treated differently to any other beliefs, ie that they cannot be questioned or challenged and that they should command a special respect over and above that accorded to other subjects?

orangebuccaneer Fri 29-Mar-13 21:33:57

MrsDoyle - it is an undisputed historical fact that a person named Jesus existed at the time the New Testament claims.

It's whether or not he was the son of God which is up for debate.

orangebuccaneer Fri 29-Mar-13 21:34:41

Sorry - that should have been aimed at Talkinpeace

Talkinpeace Fri 29-Mar-13 21:35:09

Mrsdoyle
Do not worry on my part.
I am much better educated about Christianity than many Christians.
I have been baptised and confirmed but decided I did not believe a word of it as a teenager. I love singing the songs though.
I also have a rather better record on doing good deeds without wanting reciprocal thanks than many church goers of my acquaintance.
I do not need to think I am being watched over to have a strong moral compass.

Talkinpeace Fri 29-Mar-13 21:37:09

orangebuccaneer
it is an undisputed historical fact that a person named Jesus existed at the time the New Testament claims
UTTER TOSH.
Sorry but there is absolutely no historic evidence for Jesus - and the Romans were deeply pedantic record keepers - they crucified lots of self proclaiming prophets. He's not on their lists.

grovel Fri 29-Mar-13 21:38:21

Well done, Orange. I struggle to believe but I'm inclined to.

determinedma Fri 29-Mar-13 21:43:15

I'm in Scotland and our office is closed for Good Friday and for Easter Monday. I love Easter, so much more relaxed than Christmas and a chance for a lovely family meal and usually - the first signs of spring

Mrsdoyle1 Fri 29-Mar-13 21:47:28

Thanks for clarifying that, orangebuccaneer - my comment sort of assumed that the reference here was to the 'Son of God' version of Jesus rather than any other run-of-the-mill mortals who happened to be called Jesus at the time!

Talkinpeace - glad that you feel free to direct the odd gentle swipe at churchgoers in your comment above. A little strange, then, that you should be trying to persuade others here to subscribe to the idea that Christians and Christianity are above questioning or criticism of any kind.

Lessthanaballpark Fri 29-Mar-13 21:50:22

I always thought Easter originated from one of the pagan goddesses of Spring, or Dawn, or something new beginning-ish and that Christianity did the usual thing of appropriating pagan festivals, like they did with Christmas.

Ploom Fri 29-Mar-13 22:03:28

I'm in deepest Bavaria - everything is shut today, Sunday & Monday. The church bells dont ring today out of respect for Jesus but instead the Catholic dc walk through the village with clackers to tell you what time it is hmm.
Loud music and dancing are banned - dh likes to break this rule by dancing round the house.
We are athiests so arent involved in the celebrations directly but it is definitely more than I ever saw in any part of the UK.

QuintEggSensuality Fri 29-Mar-13 22:03:43

It is a pretty unfounded belief that Jesus did not exist. wink

Mrsdoyle1 Fri 29-Mar-13 22:03:58

Sodastreamy - I wonder why the obvious inconvenience of Easter to yourself was attributed to it being 'very English' rather than to its religious origin?

As many here have pointed out, plenty of English shops remain open during the Easter period, except for Easter Sunday, although this obviously varies depending on location. Is just one day without tills ringing and consumer consumption such a disaster? Is the fact that the 'This Morning' show was rescheduled so terrible? May I suggest you have lots of chocolate eggs to hand over the Easter weekend to help you through should any of these disastrous events reoccur?! wink

Mrsdoyle1 Fri 29-Mar-13 22:08:21

QuintEggSensuality - It is a pretty unfounded belief that Jesus did not exist.

No more unfounded than the belief that he did.wink

QuintEggSensuality Fri 29-Mar-13 22:12:36

Yeah, that was my point!!!

That Jesus did not exist is a belief commonly held by atheists - people who has chosen Atheism, not Catholicism, or Buddhism, or Yoda-ism to believe in.

As opposed to Agnostics who cant be arsed/make up their minds.

NoHaudinMaWheest Fri 29-Mar-13 22:25:52

The whistler.
I meant that to be a gentle prompt that many FC people do find it at least irritating to be called Wee Free rather than to say I was insulted.

I have pretty strong Free Church credentials myself and have been known to use the term myself too but it is different when you use it about your own clan so to speak.

Actually quite nice to meet someone on here who knows what the Disruption was!

Mrsdoyle1 Fri 29-Mar-13 22:44:28

QuintEggSensuality - yes, it's all a question of belief, but there is a little difference here: some atheists' beliefs are founded on scientific evidence rather than on what is written in an ancient manuscript, the contents of which seem to have been put together by a bunch of power hungry, mysognyistic bullies. And that's just the bible, never mind other religious texts.

Recently, a barista at Costa Coffee informed me that he followed the 'Jedi Religion', describing himself is a true believer. In a few thousand years' time, perhaps someone will discover an ancient text about the Jedis, and a whole new form of that religion will arise.

My point is that atheism isn't something that you make up as you go along - it's still a form of belief, but I believe it has a much more sound basis for the view that god does not exist than any religion has for the opposite view.

QuintEggSensuality Fri 29-Mar-13 22:53:24

Can you quantify "scientific evidence"? Who is to say that science is not another belief system?

Science is evolving, as humans are discovering more and more. And any new proof is based on somebody believing something, setting out to prove something, and trying to make the answer and the hypothesis fit together.

As long as new discoveries are made, and new advances are made, we have yet to define "science" and what it actually tells us.

Science taught us the earth was flat, until it was discovered to be round.

Maybe one day science will prove the existence of God, or A God. Or a Space man.
But our minds can not comprehend this today, in the same way as humans long ago could not comprehend the idea of a round earth centering around a sun.

Lessthanaballpark Sat 30-Mar-13 00:01:51

Science didn't teach us the earth was flat. The generally held belief of a geocentric universe (including it being flat) was pulled apart in various stages by the natural philosophers of Greece and later by scientists like Copernicus and Galileo.

Yes, each scientific wave made mistakes but they based their investigations on evidence they gathered (empiricism) and didn't usually claim to know everything in the same way as religions have done.

The Catholic Church has tried to suppress or appropriate scientific discoveries especially those that challenged the idea of Earth at the centre. Or God as creator. Evolution isn't a theory. It's an observable fact.

LadyBeaEGGleEyes Sat 30-Mar-13 00:30:24

A lot of the Easter celebrations were nicked from Paganism.
The Easter egg comes from Spring and new life, the resurrection was fitted in nicely with those beliefs, much like Christmas.
I'll stuff my face with chocolate eggs on Sunday, and eat lamb.
I respect all Christians out there though, each to their own.
Now can someone tell me WTF the Easter bunny is about?

AngryBeaver Sat 30-Mar-13 00:41:22

We're in NZ, everything was shut on Good Friday, and they can't sell alcohol. Sat is open but Sun, Mon AND Tue are holidays.

EllenParsons Sat 30-Mar-13 01:11:51

I'm in London and everything is open as normal. Did my supermarket shopping, wondered round some shops and a market, went to a cafe, went to a bar tonight, took public transport etc as normal, bought some stuff from the corner shop... Nothing was shut down for Easter at all.

sashh Sat 30-Mar-13 02:45:21

we are christians but don't celebrate Easter. I think many Christians don't. perhaps this is why America doesn't wholesale acknowledge it either?

How can you be Christian and not celebrate Easter?

Oh and the fish thing, it's supposed to be every Friday, if you are RC. Actually you don't need to eat fish just not eat meat.

ComposHat Sat 30-Mar-13 03:19:01

OP what I do like is that Scotland has more sensible Sunday opening hours than England. No wanky opening at 10 and closing at 4 nonsense.
I always forget when I'm down south and find myself staring forlornly at shop shutters at 4:35 on a Sunday.

My experience comes from Edinburgh and Glasgow, although the Western Isles which are in the grip of one of the more austere protestant sects (I forget which bunch of arseaches, there are so many of them up here, all seemingly competing to be more joyless than the rest) don't open up at all on Sundays and forbid smiling, laughing or any form of pleasure on the Sabbath.

WallyBantersJunkBox Sat 30-Mar-13 04:29:44

Talkinpeace there is no historical basis that Roman governors wrote reports about non-citizens who were put to death. So although they may have been great on the paperwork they had to do, they didn't have to worry about logging non-Roman deaths.

This is why the information purportedly given from Emperor Tiberius on the crucifixion of Jesus has been challenged as they didn't actually have to mention that they had killed a Jew.

aurynne Sat 30-Mar-13 06:48:17

AngryBeaver, where in New Zealand are you? I live in Christchurch and Tuesday is not, nor it has ever been, a public holiday confused

aurynne Sat 30-Mar-13 06:50:34

By the way, in Spain they actually celebrate Good Thursday and Friday (Jueves y Viernes Santo). Monday is a day of no special significance.

OP, why do you open a thread to compare your country's observation of a particular religious holiday when you obviously have no idea about the traditions in any country except yours? I have to say you show mind-numbingly ignorance which only gets worse with subsequent posts of yours...

JumpChoccy Sat 30-Mar-13 08:44:44

We were in Spain a few years ago in HolyWeek, and the Spanish really go to town on Good Friday - processions carrying atatues, all the fraternities dressed up. Then on Easter Day we were in Gibraltar (it was a choir tour) singing in the Anglican cathedral, and it was about as un-impassioned as you can imagine, followed by very dull lunch in a yacht club hmm The English community hardly noticed Easter was happening in comparison to the Spanish.

sarahtigh Sat 30-Mar-13 08:48:33

nohaudinmawheest I also know about disruption and though not in free church have had a lot of contact with it

crucifixion of jesus is mentioned by Josephus the jewish historian written within 40 years of his death

I quite like Easter and i find it rather lovely that i am allowed to be English for a weekend. After all isn't one allowed enjoy being patriotic?
Every country has their celebrations, and everyone is entitled to celebrate what they believe in and if that makes them very English, then so what...
Happy Easter to all smile

Mrsdoyle1 Sat 30-Mar-13 11:26:43

Lessthanaballpark

^ Science didn't teach us the earth was flat. The generally held belief of a geocentric universe (including it being flat) was pulled apart in various stages by the natural philosophers of Greece and later by scientists like Copernicus and Galileo.

Yes, each scientific wave made mistakes but they based their investigations on evidence they gathered (empiricism) and didn't usually claim to know everything in the same way as religions have done.

The Catholic Church has tried to suppress or appropriate scientific discoveries especially those that challenged the idea of Earth at the centre. Or God as creator. Evolution isn't a theory. It's an observable fact. ^

Well said, Lessthanballpark. The arrogance and willful ignorance towards science displayed by some religious believers - eg the Creationists - is deeply worrying, especially when we are all expected to tolerate their superstition without comment. People are free to follow their chosen religion but to deny the evidence that science puts before us is sheer stupidity. There is a difference between evidence and belief but it seems that some fail to see that. Science can back up its claims with evidence, unlike religion.

DizzyHoneyBee Sat 30-Mar-13 11:31:29

AIBU to think it's pointless to see all these people fussing over finding easter eggs and chocolate for their children when they are most likely atheists anyway?!

Mrsdoyle1 Sat 30-Mar-13 11:39:07

^DizzyHoneyBee

AIBU to think it's pointless to see all these people fussing over finding easter eggs and chocolate for their children when they are most likely atheists anyway?!^

Absolutely right - it is totally pointless, but it's also great fun. If we have to put up with all these religious festivals, we atheists may as well get what enjoyment we can from them.

CarpeVinum Sat 30-Mar-13 11:40:04

AIBU to think it's pointless to see all these people fussing over finding easter eggs and chocolate for their children when they are most likely atheists anyway?!

Chocolate is never pointless.

NEVER!

I'm quite shocked that you would indicate otherwise.

<clutches pearls>

DizzyHoneyBee Sat 30-Mar-13 11:41:01

grin

Talkinpeace Sat 30-Mar-13 14:54:00

My kids insist on easter egg hunts - and they are teenagers!!!

the easter bunny
Is linked to the eff stuff and the old fertility festivals.
Pre industrial farming, chickens pretty much stopped laying in the winter. Spring was when they started again (ducks are still seasonal) and rabbits start "increasing their population" in the spring - so its all to do with the turning of the seasons.

MrsDoyle
I regard all religious fundamentalists with mild pity so long as they do not get in my way and do not reject science. Once they do that, I wish them ill.

AmIthatWintry Sat 30-Mar-13 15:32:38

aurynne I think you are being a wee bit generous to the OP.

She is as ignorant of her own country's observations as she is of everywhere else's grin

lovetomoan Sat 30-Mar-13 16:12:41

Easter is Christian, not an exclusive English thing. The chocolate eggs on the other hand, should be found everywhere in the world, I think smile

WallyBantersJunkBox Sat 30-Mar-13 21:56:48

Easter, like most things is a culmination of centuries of celebrations from different beliefs.

The Hare or Rabbit symbolism is connected both as a symbol of the Virgin Mary, and also as the March equinox and season brings us into a fertile state (eggs hatch, lambs born, things start to grow) after the hard season of Winter.

I believe the egg symbolism is linked to the Catholic belief that eggs could not be eaten during Lent? Therefore there were a lot of eggs to eat following this period. I thinki've read that colouring them was to attract children to eat them?

It's a time also connected to the Passover.

So you have Pagan, Roman, Jewish, Catholic and Christian beliefs aligned around the same period.

anothershittynickname Sat 30-Mar-13 23:22:36

I am gobsmacked at some of the blatant ignorance on this thread, two of my personal favourites being:

"Is Easter Catholic?" and "Was Jesus English?"

<rollseyes>

LittleBairn Sat 30-Mar-13 23:27:24

Strange where I am in Scotland it's always been a big deal but my family are Catholics (im not but im a practicing Christian) and live in a very catholic area. I've also lived in England before and never really noticed the difference.

LadyApricot Sun 31-Mar-13 09:31:39

You should see Italy at easter. We went on our honeymoon over easter and made the mistake of self catering.
NO shops or restaurants open at all.. We ended up playing solitaire for days whilst starving until things slowly opened back up throughout the following week!
On a plus side for us, our dd was conceived at this time!
Haha!

itsjustthebeginning Sun 31-Mar-13 09:53:30

Another, I too am amazed at some of the posts here, especially from Christians. Celebrations as we know them today, for example Easter and Christmas, grew from pagan roots - see here:

www.nvcc.edu/home/lshulman/rel232/resource/RileyPaper.htm

Now, I'm off to finish off my choccie egg smile

LittleBairn Sun 31-Mar-13 12:13:28

its ah the old pagan argument totally ignoring that Easter grew out of Passover and is timed around it.

WallyBantersJunkBox Sun 31-Mar-13 13:14:05

information on the Goddess Eostre on whom the Anglo Saxon word Easter is derived

A lot of the Jewish religion is based on Babylonian religion and calendar, and also on Ancient Egyptian culture. The pagan act of worshipping trees for example?

Apologies - a bit slow to come back to the thread to explain, but others have!we remember Christ dying and being risen every week through the breaking of bread - there is nothing in the bible telling us to acknowledge this annually at a certain time - so we don't. I didn't say we don't remember His sacrifice! We also have the same approach to Christmas.

We are christadelphians btw.

annoyednow Wed 03-Apr-13 00:42:53

It's interesting how despite it's recent presbyterian culture, egg rolling is enjoyed over easter in Scotland. Maybe this practice is a remainder of it's previous nigh on 1,000 years of being Catholic.

sarahtigh Wed 03-Apr-13 08:24:35

i live in scotland and never heard of egg rolling anywhere, easter egg hunts at national trust properties and various other places yes; but egg rolling no not in past 19 years have i heard of even 1 anywhere in scotland

JollyPurpleGiant Wed 03-Apr-13 08:35:00

Really, Sarah? We used to roll eggs every Easter. And, depending on where we went, there would be other people there rolling eggs too smile

sarahtigh Wed 03-Apr-13 21:30:07

well not heard of it in Glasgow or at least parts I'm familiar with nor in Edinburgh or in argyll where we live now or inverness, black isle or western isles

I have no idea about the borders aberdeen dundee angus or fife though

JollyPurpleGiant Wed 03-Apr-13 21:44:04

Aberdeenshire and Moray here for my childhood egg rolling experiences. Quite a lot of religion about in the coastal villages especially so maybe that's why.

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