To want to emigrate to somewhere that gets sunshine?

(132 Posts)
lovedimsum Thu 28-Mar-13 15:47:15

Very fed up of this weather.... Waiting for the spring to arrive but not holding my breathe. AIBU? All I want is to not wear a coat for 8 months of the year!!!

OhDearieDearieMe Thu 28-Mar-13 15:49:19

YANBU at all. It's very wearing being scrunched up and cold the whole time!

TheCrackFox Thu 28-Mar-13 15:52:10


I am sick of the sight of my boots, coat and gloves. Utterly depressing.

Do not underestimate the greatness of a temperate climate. No killer bugs; no fire storm forest fires; no regular heatwave deaths; no 2 metres of snow in the winter.

Also, if you are planning to move may I tell you that I emigrated and there are; bears; cougars; brown recluse spiders who rot your flesh off; earthquakes and possible tsunamis. Raccoon get into my rubbish, deer eat my plants and my friend's children's school was evacuated for a cougar sighting.

Where the fuck do you live that spiders rot your flesh?!?

MechanicalTheatre Thu 28-Mar-13 16:00:39

OP, I'm with you. I would be fine with our winters if I knew we were going to get a decent summer. I used to live in Germany and yes, the winters were colder and darker and grimmer than ours, but at least summer was properly hot and lovely.

wankerchief Thu 28-Mar-13 16:01:14

Spiders rot your flesh?

Shit A brick im never leaving my house again.


FlumpsRule Thu 28-Mar-13 16:03:04

YADNBU I'm totally fed up with weather. We haven't seen enough sun for years.. hmm We are all lacking vitamin D & developing SAD - Not to mention extortionate heating bills.... Grumble, grumble... Where would you like to go?

thebody Thu 28-Mar-13 16:03:06

Yrnbu... Hate hate hate this weather but love this country.

Google brown recluse, get images if your stomach is VERY strong. I live in North America.

OccamsRaiser Thu 28-Mar-13 16:33:54

If you're still feeling down about no sunshine, I hear Cyprus gets 360 days of sunshine each year?

You might lose a percentage of any money you have in the bank, but it would be in the sun!

Labootin Thu 28-Mar-13 16:45:29

Constant sun can get very boring too.

I miss cold wet days (for about a nano second)

HoHoHoNoYouDont Thu 28-Mar-13 16:46:50

OMG @ brown recluse spiders.

Are these house spiders or do you have to be out at the back of beyond to encounter one?

VerySmallSqueak Thu 28-Mar-13 16:49:17

I think I might get the staff to air the mansion in the South of France.

I'd be gone like a shot if I could manage the school run from the Cote D'Azure.

juanca Thu 28-Mar-13 16:56:49

I live somewhere temperate (18-22ish degrees each day) and I have forgotten what it feels like to feel the cold.

BUT I miss winters a bit! Crunchy walks through frost, pints of ale in pubs with names like The Fat Man's Arms and snuggling up under a duvet.

And yes, I know I'm romanticising winter quite a lot but my point is the grass is always bloody greener, ain't it?

MidnightMasquerader Thu 28-Mar-13 16:57:50

Can I give you a little ray of hope...?

I'm in the southern hemisphere and the summer before last was an unrelenting wash-out with rain every day. Your 2012 summer ended up being much the same.

This (Indian) summer, winding down, has been a glorious, drought-ridden fiesta (sorry, farmers) that just goes on and on.

Maybe you guys are in for similar?

March is always depressing in the UK. April is where it's at. smile

currentbuns Thu 28-Mar-13 17:03:42

The forecasters are saying April will be just as bad...

juneau Thu 28-Mar-13 17:03:52

No YANBU - I've been thinking the same this past week. I'm so fed up of my winter coats, gloves, scraping ice off the car every morning before taking the DC to school, my right thumb, which always cracks in the winter and is soooo sore and it's been like that since before Christmas. As soon as one crack heals up, another one opens up sad

I actually think I'm suffering from a mild version of SAD. Last year's non-existent summer combined with this long winter has really got to me.

digerd Thu 28-Mar-13 17:13:04

I would love to have 23 degress all year round. Is there such a place?

When I lived in northern Germany our summers were worse than here. That was from 1975 -1997.

MooseBeTimeForCoffee Thu 28-Mar-13 17:17:08

Digerd Singapore? It rains a lot though ..

MooseBeTimeForCoffee Thu 28-Mar-13 17:19:34

Well, there aren't many places where you need to turn the heating off and the a/c on. We've had deep snow since October but its getting warmer all the time. It was warmer here yesterday than it was in the UK.

SofaCanary Thu 28-Mar-13 17:20:36

It's just so fucking relentless this year, I'm so sick of wearing three layers just to sit in my bloody house, longing for the carefree days of venturing out in nowt more than a t-shirt and jeans...not much to ask really is it.

whosiwhatsit Thu 28-Mar-13 17:27:38

Thank you, Midnight, I needed that!

DragonMamma Thu 28-Mar-13 17:31:50

My PIL live in Cyprus.

I'm all for living in the sun but they are skint because of the economy there and so they just have the reverse problems, aircon instead of heating, the pool is leaking, the tiles have gone funny in the heat etc.

I wish it would not be so bloody cold though, I'm bored of my coat.

shockers Thu 28-Mar-13 17:46:26

You should move to somewhere like Australia (Perth ideally), then you can reply to every fb status your wife's friend puts on with the current temperature where you are... she'll love it and it will never ever become tedious to her hmm.

MidnightMasquerader Thu 28-Mar-13 17:49:20


Emigration bores. Gotta love 'em...

lovedimsum Thu 28-Mar-13 18:19:39

Ha! I am from Perth Australia originally and this is part of the problem! I love London for all that it offers but it's the relentless grey days. And you get so excited when summer is on its way, stick up on summer clothing and then you might be lucky to get 2-3 weeks of nice weather then the wash-out happens and cold weather returns again! Ideally I would go to Singapore but it all comes down to jobs..... Moving kids from good school.... Etc etc

lovedimsum Thu 28-Mar-13 18:20:06

*stock up

ZZZenEggain Thu 28-Mar-13 18:20:36

no, yanbu, count me in

Branleuse Thu 28-Mar-13 18:22:43

im desperate to move to the south of France. Still seasonal, still get a winter, but just not a hideous one, and a proper spring, and a long hot summer.

Plus no spiders that rot your flesh or cougars

i sooooo want to see a cougar <sulks>

i wasn't aware of the flesh eating spiders (and there's not a fucking chance i'm going to google it) but i can't recall the last time i saw a spider at all so i'll take my chances MrsT grin

ZZZenEggain Thu 28-Mar-13 18:27:58

we had a thread on here once about beating off a cougar with your handbag.


i think you're supposed to make your self as big as possible and ROAR at them

if you run away like we all would they chase you shock

Meglet Thu 28-Mar-13 18:36:29


I'm not scared of spiders or snakes so I'll go anywhere. And I don't want blasted air con either, stuffy hot air actually makes me perk up <<cold blooded>>.

I've heard by the time you see a cougar, they're an inch from taking your head off. They like a good stalking they do.

digerd Thu 28-Mar-13 19:04:32

I have been told by somebody who lives there that South Africa is 25 degrees all year round and never humid. .

digerd Thu 28-Mar-13 19:07:31

When we were in Perth in July, it was lovely, but resident neighbour told us we were lucky. It normally rains non-stop for 6 months in the winter, she said. < not for me, thank you>

KLou111 Thu 28-Mar-13 19:26:55

YANBU we're thinking about it too. We have just moved back from South Wales to the midlands as we have a now 19 month old ds, but if this weather keeps up we're off to Spain!

KLou111 Thu 28-Mar-13 19:31:57

Singapore is where we would love to go too lovedimsum! My hubby was born there and spent his first 5 years there (his dads job took them there), we love it! Hubby proposed to me in Raffles grin

dopeysheep Thu 28-Mar-13 20:06:43

Beating off cougars? That surely is some sort of niche website. . .

shockers Thu 28-Mar-13 22:24:15

digerd, our friends have not encountered much rain in their 15 months of living there!

lovedimsum Thu 28-Mar-13 22:28:03

Perth doesn't rain for 6 months of the year- mind you they would love it if it did so the lawns weren't brown almost all year round due to water restrictions!

howdoo Thu 28-Mar-13 22:29:45

Terry, I live in North America, you are terrifying me with the brown recluse spiders thing!

Manchesterhistorygirl Thu 28-Mar-13 22:34:49

You are not being unreasonable. I said to dh just yesterday I'd learn to shoot and we can move to SA.

So, so sick of having to find coats, boots, gloves, scarves, hats very single time I want to leave the house! Two pairs of winter boots have bitten the dust and I will not buy anymore this winter. No! I will not give in to this narnia we seem to be stuck in.

(Think I may have SAD).

shockers Thu 28-Mar-13 22:35:28

And parts of South Africa get really chilly in winter... my Dad lives there.

I've shivered my arse off in Africa.

So, I've been around, here are my reviews...

Italy: Nice weather and people. The official stuff and forms will put Kafka to shame. Great food. All the nice places are rammed with tourists.

Canada: Nice but white bread blah at times. They look South too much in their assessment of their culture.

The US of A: Individually the nicest people on the face of the world. Collectively, WTF?

Thailand: Beautiful, great weather, wonderful culture. Ruined by child molesters.

East Africa: Best weather of all. There are high up places near the equator with year round 20+ weather (Nairobi) but the leaders are nutters. And, tropical diseases and animals that want to kill you.

Australia/New Zealand: Lovely, great people, mostly good weather. In one, every single animal wants you dead and now and painfully. The other, no dangerous animals but the country wants to explode.

Manchesterhistorygirl Thu 28-Mar-13 23:09:03

So what you're saying is I should stay here and layer up?

A jumper would be cheaper.

SofaCanary Fri 29-Mar-13 00:45:37

grin @ dopeysheep

Pudgy2011 Fri 29-Mar-13 00:58:32

I live in the Caribbean. I'd be lying if I said it was crap but I've lived here 5 years and it took me all of about 2 years to get bored of the constant sunshine.
You always feel like you should be outside doing something energetic and I genuinely look forward to rainy days when I can sit on the sofa and watch Lord of The Rings without feeling guilty!
I do feel your pain though, I remember the horrendously long winters back in London. I hope it warms up soon, my poor parents are freezing their tits off!

The weather has been fucking terrible...I'm sat here with a duvet and two jumpers on <<mope>>

My Mum has just got back from visiting my brother in Dubai envy

SofaCanary Fri 29-Mar-13 01:03:03


differentnameforthis Fri 29-Mar-13 03:28:31

It is very overrated being hot all the time! My daughter recently did evacuation training at school (bush fires perhaps). We have had no rain for ages & one of the local lakes has completely dried up. Over time the sun makes the paint peel off your car!

It Autumn and the other day is was 36!

Mimishimi Fri 29-Mar-13 03:37:04

I live in Australia, we have lots of deadly species. The white-tipped spiders will cause some people's skin to ulcerate horribly but far more deadly are the funnel webs, brown snakes, sharks etc. We have had great weather this summer but didn't last year, it rained nearly everyday.

We did, we love it here and don't have brown recluses. We have snow two hours drive away all winter and several times a year an hour away. It is sunny and mild year round with little exception (if it is raining or grey one day then drive twenty minutes away for different weather).

We've been here thirteen years and aren't bored of it. I heartily recommend it. It was 22 deg here today and we're expecting a low of 12.

There are pluses and minuses of EVERY place, but the weather is not a minus here.

WhataSook Fri 29-Mar-13 03:43:27

Mimi, do you mean white-tailed spider?

glastocat Fri 29-Mar-13 04:09:32

I moved from Ireland to Perth six weeks ago so we are bloody loving the sunshine and totally do not miss the shite weather back home. Sorry to be a smug emigration bore.grin I haven't seen any spiders yet either although I did see MASSIVE cockroaches.

Astelia Fri 29-Mar-13 04:18:27

The coldest it ever gets to here in Singapore is 22 degrees. However the humidity is high so it is sticky. I must admit I love it; I love the bright sun and warmth.

There are snakes, monkeys, lizards and cockroaches around (but not too often thankfully).

I'm in Abu Dhabi and am loving it. I had to wear a jumper for about three weeks over the Christmas period when the temperature dropped to around 14/15C at night but that is it. We do get sand storms sometimes though.

Alligatorpie Fri 29-Mar-13 05:06:10

I'm in north Africa and we have blue skies every day. In 2 years, we have had rain about 5 times, and when it rains - it lasts 2-3 minutes.

Its boiling hot in the summer, and right now it's sandstorm season, but i really love the weather here. Shame the food is so shite!

theodorakisses Fri 29-Mar-13 05:58:27

It has only rained here twice in the last year. It is a lovely breezy 28c, the sea is warm and clear. But, every time it rains, we all go out and stand in it and talk about it for days. The grass is always greener.

theodorakisses Fri 29-Mar-13 06:00:37

Ranty, I was there last night at Guns n Roses!

Ah! Cool! Would have loved to gone and seen them, we are still in the mentality that we can't afford it and I have to get out of that, our quality of life is so muh better here.

differentnameforthis Fri 29-Mar-13 08:51:53

theadora, did you enjoy GnR? My dh saw them in Melbourne (we drove 10 hours to do so) and got to meet Dj, Dizzy & Bumblefoot!

FreudiansSlipper Fri 29-Mar-13 08:58:00

I thought the sun always shines in Sydney when I got there is july it rained solidly for 6 weeks it did not stop but you do get lovely summers. It is dull often in la too in winter and surprisingly cold at night even in autumn

theodorakisses Fri 29-Mar-13 10:26:50

It was good but a bit overshadowed by The Temptations and Supremes we saw in Doha last week.

jjgirl Fri 29-Mar-13 10:53:11

Perfect sunshine ALL day today with a top of 21 in Canberra today. We have cold short winters and lovely warm summers and its nice and dry and sunny most of the time. Ski fields are about two hours away in the winter. Beach is 1.5 hours away in the summer. Sydney short plane flight or 2.5 hour drive away. Love it here

skyblue11 Fri 29-Mar-13 14:38:41

I hate our winters, get SAD really depresses me, I live for the time I can go abroad for (almost) guaranteed sunshine, I love the feeling of the sun on my skin, I almost wept for joy last time I got off a plane in Palma and felt the sun, oh I long for that. Instead stuck here, ice, snow, wind, rain, I can't wait for the summer, sick of it all then I get down when it's July and August and we don't get any.
If I were a risk taker I'd live to live somewhere sunnier, I have family that rely on me so would feel bad moving away, so envious of friends who have done this and seeing their fb status of the temperatures makes me feel green with envy..

theodorakisses Fri 29-Mar-13 14:44:18

It is so hard with FB and emails when you live away. I think that it is very tempting when you move away to belittle what you have left behind. luckily, MN, especially if you are in the ME, do not allow you to boast too much! Living away is fab, I have no desire to live in the UK again and have enjoyed most of my years away, except Africa which was not fun. There are loads of things about home that are close to my heart, autumns, the smell of chimneys in the crisp winter night, the Police, the security of knowing you can't get booted out tomorrow because you have offended the wrong person etc

juneau Fri 29-Mar-13 16:18:36

The problem is I have no desire to live in most of the places listed.

Dubai: Sharia law? No thanks. Also no culture, lots of sand, and who the hell wants to be a woman in the middle-east?
Australia: too far away, no culture, nasty spiders and snakes, full of Australians, DH's job doesn't exist there.
USA: east coast and mid-west has worse winters than here and boiling hot, humid summers - tried that for six years and actually prefer the climate here. West coast and Hawaii, would live there in a heartbeat (and could - we're dual citizens), but DH's job doesn't exist there.
SA: no wish to live in a gated community, too much violence.
Italy: I tried living there and it drove me mad. Bureaucracy is hideous, nepotism is rife, xenophobia is depressing, tourist hordes from Easter to Oct.

I'd move to the south of France, but again, DH's job doesn't exist there and he doesn't speak French, ditto the rest of Europe.

So we're stuck here until DH retires.

digerd Fri 29-Mar-13 16:39:40

My research was correct then. San Diego has the best climate for me.
But strange that there has been no climate change there since I found that book in the library over climates in USA over the last 30 years, and that was in the 1980s.

grimbletart Fri 29-Mar-13 16:56:02

Singapore - heat yes, but oh lord the dreadful humidity. Spent most of my time there feeling like a soaking wet piece of string. Can't do humidity.

Absolutely love beautiful New Zealand despite it trying to explode all the time - apart from the sandflies of course. Bastards.

Love Australia too, except for the rainforest bits (soaking string syndrome again). Mind you, some of the worst wet weather ever the times I've been there has been the east coast. Come to sunny Australia? Pah - it's a con. grin.

South Africa has a lovely climate, except when it rains so hard that the ground is covered with really sweet little frogs running everywhere.

Didn't like the Middle East - too much sand and crap attitudes to women.

Love most of the Mediterranean countries for living but didn't like working there so much: am too much instilled into northern European work ethic and efficiency.

India: now there's a culture shock!

China: haven't worked there for 15 years now but every time I was there I realised that was the future - must seem even more so now.....

Having spent so much time in so many countries I still think (with some exceptions) Britain has some of the loveliest scenery in the world.

digerd Fri 29-Mar-13 17:19:54

If it rains only twice a year, I can'tunderstand that grass grows there at all?
But I guess the hot air is a tolerable dry one and not humid. Can't do anything when it's humid here in UK. It knocks me out.

theodorakisses Sat 30-Mar-13 08:47:54

underground irrigation. The air is dry and breezy except in the summer when it is very humid and about 53c. Still, beats a crap healthcare system, paying income tax and drizzle.

MorrisZapp Sat 30-Mar-13 09:14:09

I've never lived anywhere but central Scotland. I love it and will never emigrate, but this winter has brought me down a bit.

I just want to get on with my usual spring routines (pedicures, weight loss, getting summer clothes out) but its week after week of hibernating on the sofa and shivering in the morning.

I actually no longer care what I look like. This weather does not merit any effort on my part.

digerd Sat 30-Mar-13 12:15:08

I normally don't go out if the weather is horrible as don't drive and live on my own < and am no longer a spring chicken>. But now I have a little dog to walk twice a day, so been buying eskimo outfits in the sales.

One pair of lovely boots has been complimented on 4 times - all by men and my jackets are in lovely colours - never wear dark colours. And I like to colour co-ordinate too . The other day I had red ankle boots and red gloves.

MrRected Sat 30-Mar-13 12:30:45

No culture in the Middle East?? Wtf - there's plenty of culture, just a different kind. Ditto Australia.

Longdistance Sat 30-Mar-13 12:34:59


Don't move. I live in Perth, it's the same shit as the uk, and everything's expensive. The health care you have to pay for, and we got stung massively on private health care, give me the NHS any day.

It rains here too, for about 3 months of the year, and the hot hot weather last a max 4 months. It's overrated.

But, I'm willing to swap smile

complexnumber Sat 30-Mar-13 12:56:31

Of course there is culture in the ME, anyone who says otherwise is just plain ignorant.

We are in Muscat, Oman. Fantastic place! The weather is a little predictable, it has to be said. But for 9 months a year it is lovely. We are normally back in the UK for the grimest 50 C+ days (I have been here when it is 47C, it felt like my eyeballs were melting)

Oh, and beautiful birds, wonderful beaches, lovely people, females given respect and responsibility, and very few cockroaches (that I have seen)

MrRected Sat 30-Mar-13 13:35:55

Oman - swooooon!!! I had the privilege of the Bar al Jissah in March, snorkelling, wadi bashing, visiting the most amazing Mosque I have ever seen. I can honestly say Oman is amazing - the weather is pretty awesome too smile

chris481 Sat 30-Mar-13 13:52:03

South Africa has the best climate that I've experienced. It's dry heat, unlike Singapore. I think Johannesburg has a winter temperature of something like 18 degrees, i.e. not to different from most of a British summer. Though that statistic might be misleading, as I know it can be below zero overnight. And the houses, though much nicer than the UK, are not as well heated and insulated, so when it's cold, they get cold.

(Comparing my flat in centralish London with a house McMansion I stayed in just outside Johanesburg, that was probably five times the floor area and half the price of my flat.)

mizu Sat 30-Mar-13 14:30:14

I too hate this awful cold weather - landlord is putting central heating in week after next hmm

BUT I have lived in Oman, Japan and Greece and although the hot weather is great for a while, you do get sick of it and dream of rain and cooler weather. Used to miss the seasons here while I was in Oman.

And who said the ME has no culture!!!!??

juneau Sat 30-Mar-13 15:56:08

I said Dubai has no culture, which since it was only built about 10 years I'm fairly sure is true. I am well aware of Islamic culture, but I don't think anyone on this thread has mentioned anywhere in the ME that's famed for it's art and architecture.

lljkk Sat 30-Mar-13 16:07:43

yanbu, we are actively plotting.

Have to say, this time of year is always the worst weather wise.

juanca Sat 30-Mar-13 16:14:12

I don't think anyone on this thread has mentioned anywhere in the ME that's famed for it's art and architecture

Are you serious?! Are you still talking about Dubai? The ME is FULL of incredible architecture and has fostered some amazing artists, am gobsmacked at how you can just dismiss the culture of a huge swathe of countries because it's not on your radar.

juneau Sat 30-Mar-13 16:23:00

Read my post again. You've misunderstood what I wrote.

Roseformeplease Sat 30-Mar-13 16:25:14

Try the North West of Scotland - drought conditions near me with water arriving by tanker, no snow and the stuff falling from the sky is the ash from hill fires as it hasn't rained for two months. Same NHS, great schools....

juanca Sat 30-Mar-13 16:27:15

Sorry, I read it again and I still don't understand!

juanca Sat 30-Mar-13 16:27:52

Think I need to go to bed!

juneau Sat 30-Mar-13 16:33:49

Good idea.

KLou111 Sat 30-Mar-13 16:41:08

Juanca, I think you do need to go back to bed.
She said Dubai had no real culture as it was only 'built' over the last 10 years.
She then said no one has mentioned the fab art and architecture in the ME.
I got it Juneau smile

theodorakisses Sat 30-Mar-13 16:50:12

The first rule of MN, never admit you live in the ME and if you do, never, ever try to defend it. I have discussed it with several other people on this forum and we just agree to let it go, it isn't worth it. If it were any other place it would be considered ignorant to slag off a place you have never been. I have already encountered one such idiotic moronic example of this today on MN on another thread. Who cares, at least we are 3000 miles away from the provincial little Guardian readers.

echt Sat 30-Mar-13 17:07:54

You were doing so well until you made that rather silly remark about Guardian readers, theodora. It makes you sound as ill-informed as those you criticise.

theodorakisses Sat 30-Mar-13 17:11:00

well the pompous arses on MN make me feel jolly silly and make me want to fart and poke my tongue out and blow rasberries at people. They have not yet, pushed me into reading the Daily Mail as revenge though.

echt Sat 30-Mar-13 17:13:26

Agree that would be a vile fate. smile

juneau Sat 30-Mar-13 17:20:47

No, the first rule of Mumsnet is to READ what other people write so you don't go off on a petty little rant about something that hasn't been said.

theodorakisses Sat 30-Mar-13 17:24:52

I am absolutely befuddled, just realised the j posters are two different people not someone arguing with themselves. I think I will go to bed now.

SomethingOnce Sat 30-Mar-13 17:34:06


Places to visit:

Anywhere roughly south of a line from southeastern Nebraska through southern Iowa, Illinois, and Indiana to southwestern Ohio. In the southern states, from central Texas to western Georgia and north to Kentucky.

I don't mind spiders, but those bastards can fuck off and die.

whosiwhatsit Sat 30-Mar-13 17:48:05

I grew up in a hot climate. Cockroaches the size of cattle, plus the skin on my face is all wrinkly, I look older than I am, and I probably have skin cancer to look forward to. I'm much happier in the UK overall.

popebenedictsp45 Sat 30-Mar-13 19:04:42

I love living in a warm climate, it has made a huge difference to the quality of our lives. However, I really do miss the UK sometimes. Like this weekend - no easter eggs where we are!

StuntGirl Sat 30-Mar-13 21:13:03

I soooo want to live somewhere warmer, no idea where I would want to go though. Right now, in my freezing little bloody room, I would just take anywhere that is warmer!

digerd Sat 30-Mar-13 21:48:10

San Diego here I come < in my dreams, unfortunately>.

maleview70 Sat 30-Mar-13 21:59:27

I believe LA is decent from what a friend says.

digerd Sun 31-Mar-13 08:51:58

When I researched the climate of USA, LA was discounted by me as for 3 months in the summer - think it was June to August- there was no rainfall at all and I would have to be watering the garden night and morning for 3 months on the trot. The humidity and smog was not nice either, and too hot.

San Diego was the best, for me.

theodorakisses Sun 31-Mar-13 09:10:45

It is 28c here, sunny with a breeze. Just been for a swim in the sea and now having coffee in the garden. I couldn't cope with the gloom and drizzle again I don't think. I also bought a coffee, a paper, a packet of Hula Hoops (from UK) a cheese croissant and 2 bottles of water it cost about £1. last time I stopped at the motorway services in the UK, a bottle of Highland Spring (same make I bought here) was £3.59.
For me it isn't just the weather but the effect the sun has on people, I rarely meet sour faced jobsworths or misery guts. Last time I landed at Heathrow I was asked about why I lived in various ME and African countries as if I were suspicious, the fact I work in oil (not literally, that would be disgusting), have a British passport and like living abroad were, according to the weasel faced old cow, not valid reasons for living abroad.
If I am ill, I go see a doctor, not a poorly trained nurse and don't have to carry the burden of a poorly run health system meaning I would get substandard and rationed care.
I actually like the summer months, the sea is a warm bath and everyone sleeps from midday onwards and then come out to play at night.

theodorakisses Sun 31-Mar-13 09:12:03

I don't mean to sound smug but just extolling the virtues of taking the plunge. (exception was Kenya, I hated it)

Slinkysista Sun 31-Mar-13 09:26:58

Theo where are you? It sounds heavenly!
Have been thinking recently about emigrating due to various family issues, the economic downturn and the weather. Have no idea where I'd go though, France, Italy, San Francisco maybe...... I can dream. I often wonder would I be a different person if I lived somewhere sunny, would I be jolly and upbeat full time! Probably not, I don't really like the sun hence my love for San Francisco.

MidnightMasquerader Sun 31-Mar-13 09:44:31

DH and the DC and I moved to sunnier climes; my home country.

The nice weather is lovely. So enjoyable. Wonderful.

However, it doesn't make up for ...............

Friends and family, kindred spirits, having the craic, not always being the new person, not having to put on a rictus grin and your best foot forward every time you venture into a new environment... People who know, love and 'get' you, people you have a history with and a massive laugh with. Free healthcare at point of entry (massively expensive when it's not like this). Free dental care. Sense of humour, banter, celebrities who are actually and genuinely funny. History. Online shopping for whatever you want at the best price, day or night. Waitrose. Ocado. Selfridges. Friends, the craic, the banter, the humour.

Nice weather is all well and good... Sitting outside to drink your coffee is magic. Your cheeky sav in the evening...

But... wink

MidnightMasquerader Sun 31-Mar-13 09:48:12

Basically, since I wasn't very explicit... grin

What it comes down to is ... what you're leaving behind. If there isn't a great deal to leave behind, then the lovely weather and the lifestyle will be intoxicating.

If you have wonderful family and friends, then you may not find the nice weather and alfresco lifestyle enough of a pro.

Slinkysista Sun 31-Mar-13 10:17:11

Goodness on the whole I have good friends and family. Very very close to my sisters, I speak with all of them several times a day and they drop in to ours and vice versa. It wod be too hard to leave them even though we have our ups and downs.
Where are you midnight if you don't mind me asking?

MarshaBrady Sun 31-Mar-13 10:19:19

My sister just sent photos from Perth. 33 degrees all at the beach. But I still wouldn't leave London.

At least the sun is shining today.

theodorakisses Sun 31-Mar-13 11:27:47

I live in Qatar, it's not for everyone (although the only time I get slagged off for living here in on MN by people who camp in Devon once a year).
I love it and will stay as long as I can. Nobody has done a shit in my garden, pissed on my car or put fireworks through my letter box since I left the UK.

whosiwhatsit Sun 31-Mar-13 11:57:44

Nobody has done any of those things to me and I live in the UK! But Qatar does sound amazing. Are there big roaches there (my one and only phobia).

theodorakisses Sun 31-Mar-13 13:24:13

none at all, the only pests are big bugger ants!

digerd, SD is not for you either then. You have to water your garden here too. However most people have automated sprinklers if that helps and some have very little garden and prefer pools and hardscape instead.

JustinBsMum Sun 31-Mar-13 15:33:07

Friends and family, kindred spirits, having the craic, not always being the new person, not having to put on a rictus grin and your best foot forward every time you venture into a new environment... People who know, love and 'get' you, people you have a history with and a massive laugh with. Free healthcare at point of entry (massively expensive when it's not like this). Free dental care. Sense of humour, banter, celebrities who are actually and genuinely funny. History. Online shopping for whatever you want at the best price, day or night. Waitrose. Ocado. Selfridges. Friends, the craic, the banter, the humour

I am in central coastal west USA and I would say it has the best weather in the world (better than the med, bit warmer than Perth,Au, in the winter)- but for all the above reasons plus good tv and radio give me the UK any time.

Oh, and plus being able to go to interesting places for a day out ie it doesn't require an expensive air flight to get there.

Nancy66 Sun 31-Mar-13 15:35:23

I couldn't not have seasons.

I love a cold winter, although I admit this one has dragged on a bit too long.

theodorakisses Sun 31-Mar-13 15:50:39

Justin, use, we downloaded Dr Who in HD in 6 minutes last night! We have Waitrose food and an aramex account, an Ebay package made it from the UK to Doha in less than 12 hours last week. Can't comment on medical or dental, we see proper doctors whenever we want to and decent dentists and it's about £1.50 a time. My husband has medication that costs £0.12 a month to buy because that its what it costs.

theodorakisses Sun 31-Mar-13 15:51:09

And thanks to this thread, it has been dark and cloudy all day, haven't seen the sun since lunchtime.

KLou111 Sun 31-Mar-13 19:47:39

Justin, download it's live uk tv worldwide (time difference permitting!) we use it on holidays smile

Our weather had the massively good sense to rain during the night again last night. I really like that about San Diego. Even when it is rainy it is more likely to happen when I don't have to be out in it.

This was how I spent yesterday afternoon smile in a chair with my family and some friends and a picnic.

KLou111 Mon 01-Apr-13 20:44:32

Eff off wink
Looks beautiful.....I am so missing the sun right now!!

JustinBsMum Mon 01-Apr-13 21:53:48

Thanks, will try those tv downloaders. Have been using tunnelbear but it stops every so often whilst the download catches up.

Wallison Mon 01-Apr-13 22:22:37

I have lived in lots of places and my favourite in terms of weather was what is classified as "tropical savannah". It was hot, but not blisteringly so - average temperature was 26 degrees and in the evenings it was cooler due to breezes drifting down into the valley so it was warm enough to sleep with just a sheet and a mosquito net but not so hot that you couldn't drop off. There were two rainy seasons, where yes it did rain a fuck of a lot (think not being able to get from one side of town to the other because the drains couldn't cope with it) but that meant there was plenty of lush vegetation and all manner of wonderful fruit. Also there was lots of culture and history and I didn't have to sell my soul to the (oil) devil in order to live there. I do think of it wistfully now and it compares very favourably to all of the hats/coats/scarves/gloves fucking around that you have to do for what seems like most of the year in the UK these days.

CoteDAzur Mon 01-Apr-13 22:29:25

"Constant sun can get very boring too."

No it doesn't grin

Yeah I don't find it boring either.

We do have seasons, very mlld subtle ones compared to other places, but we have them none the less. I actually resent the month of grey we get in june and mumble around the place "I didn't move to a whole new continent to deal with this crap every year".

aldiwhore Mon 01-Apr-13 22:39:54

YANBU to be fed up as this winter has been particularly dreary...

We do get sunshine though, and I LOVE the British weather and all it's craziness, so if you're going to threaten to leave, just leave, quietly and don't moan. smile

Obviously if the weather in general gets you down, then a sunlamp (or emigration) might actually be an answer... saying all that you are being VERY British for complaining about the weather so maybe you shouldn't leave, you're home already! Coats are wonderful, I have more coats than clothes, in fact, because I need coats I save a fortune on clothing.

Wallison Mon 01-Apr-13 22:44:20

We don't get a lot of sunshine. In fact, I can't remember the last decent summer that we had. It's depressing.

glastocat Tue 02-Apr-13 04:04:36

Yes, I can't say I find constant sunshine boring either, quite the contrary in fact. Although it has rained (twice! grin ) since we got here in Feb.

shockers Tue 02-Apr-13 10:31:20

I find constant sunshine tiring and monotonous when I go abroad, but maybe that's because I'm not used to having a siesta (it feels like a waste of time because it's a productive part of the day in England!). If I was away for months, I'd probably get into the routine.

Having said that, the NW of England is where my heart is, and a crisp spring morning lifts my soul like nothing else smile.

Bakingnovice Tue 02-Apr-13 11:03:21

I love England but I have to say this last winter which started last August has totally zapped my enthusiasm for life. I'm feeling so depressed, and yes I know it's sunny today but my god it's freezing up north.

lljkk Tue 02-Apr-13 11:27:23

I grew up with near constant sunshine. I could cope again grin.
I would miss seasons, spring flowers and truly green countryside.
I've always it's the lack of reliably decent summers in Britain that bothers me most.

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