To think if your holiday rental doesn't start till Saturday then you can't expect to turn up on Friday.

(67 Posts)
VivaLeBeaver Mon 25-Mar-13 15:44:45

Seriously, I think some people are slightly unhinged.

We had a last minute holiday rental in France last week, booked direct through the owner who lives in the UK.

Late Friday night a couple turned up and were suprised to find us there.

The deal with the keys were you went to a garage in the apartment block and got two sets of keys out a secure coded box on the wall. As we were leaving 6am on Saturday I'd put one of they keys in the box - they'd actually got the key and came into the apartment.

Apparantly they thought the apartment had been empty the week before their booking so thought they'd sneak in a day earlier. They then asked if they could stay in the apartment on the bed settee that night as it was late and they had no idea where else to go.

I feel a bit of a bitch now but I said no and took the key off them and practically frog marched them out! No idea where they went as we were off early the next day.

LightTheLampNotTheRat Mon 25-Mar-13 15:46:21

Nuts! Them, not you. I'd have been outraged.

CrazyOldCatLady Mon 25-Mar-13 15:46:40

Holy moley. I'd have done the same. The cheeky feckers!

PurpleStorm Mon 25-Mar-13 15:48:34


Anyone with any sense at all will realise that it's entirely possible for people to have booked the property for the week before them, and in this case, the other holidaymakers probably won't be leaving until the Saturday morning.

Utter madness to turn up a night early and expect to be able to stay in the property unless you've made special arrangements with the owners.

Tee2072 Mon 25-Mar-13 15:49:34

Wow. That's very cheeky. I'd be sure to tell the owner.

VivaLeBeaver Mon 25-Mar-13 15:50:02

They said it was because on the owner's website it still showed availability to book. So they assumed it was empty.

Wishiwasanheiress Mon 25-Mar-13 15:50:13

Damn lucky u were that polite and didn't scream burglary etc and chase em with a knife! Silly people. Def not bu!!!

Annunziata Mon 25-Mar-13 15:51:17


We had a family try to extend their stay a few days in our villa doing the same thing. It's stealing, really.

PurpleStorm Mon 25-Mar-13 15:53:21

Even if the website still showed availability and the property was empty, it's still unreasonable to just turn up early unannounced.

Aside from anything else, they've not paid for the Friday night.

HesterShaw Mon 25-Mar-13 15:53:51

Ha ha ha! Am actually laughing out loud at that.

The cheek of some people is sometimes almost to be admired. Certainly marvelled at.

Bad bastards.

HesterShaw Mon 25-Mar-13 15:54:01

Mad, not bad.

VivaLeBeaver Mon 25-Mar-13 15:54:28

I just keep wondering what they did as it was so late, dark outside, its quite a small village a fair distance from other places and they'd driven 15 hours non stop to get there.

She just kept saying that we wouldn't know they were there and what difference would it make if we were just about to go to bed and then get up first thing and leave.

kinkyfuckery Mon 25-Mar-13 15:56:19

Cheeky cunts!

PurpleStorm Mon 25-Mar-13 15:57:34

Well, they'll have learnt a valuable lesson about not being so cheeky next time.

Annunziata Mon 25-Mar-13 15:57:34

The cheek of her! Outrageous.

Tee2072 Mon 25-Mar-13 15:58:15

What difference would it make? Well, they haven't paid for one thing and you have!

Doyouthinktheysaurus Mon 25-Mar-13 15:58:58

OMG, they are bonkersshock

You did exactly the right thing, that is so cheeky!

Christ, when we are in holiday lets, I never arrive before the due time and always leave before the expected time! We have left a day early before but we'd never arrive a day earlyhmm

theoriginalandbestrookie Mon 25-Mar-13 15:58:58

Oh that's funny. You did the right thing.

Perhaps if they had volunteered to pay 1/7 of your weekly rental then you could have let them stay. Apart from anything else it spoils the end of your holiday. Cheeky sods.

Lottashakingoinon Mon 25-Mar-13 15:59:09

Love the way she was guilt tripping you Viva. It was utterly not your problem...after all, what would they have done if you hadn't put your keys in the safe in the first place? Though I bet you're wishing to fuck now that you hadn't!

Makes me think, though, that the landlord should maybe change the code between tenants.

And presumably they could sleep in the car: not ideal but it was their fault.

shewhowines Mon 25-Mar-13 15:59:30

Presumably it was a very uncomfortable night in the car, squashed in with the luggage. Still that was the risk they took ......

Why am I taking delight in that notion? smile

God no, why on earth would you pay for exclusive use of a property only to have strangers camping out because they are assuming they can unlawfully use something they aren't entitled to. They probably weren't meant to come in until after lunch either, right?

Make sure you tell the owners so they know not to book with them again.

I think I would have shrieked "get out before I call the police!" so I think YABCR.

Locketjuice Mon 25-Mar-13 16:01:11

I laughed so if its serious YANBU!

They sound nuts!

VivaLeBeaver Mon 25-Mar-13 16:01:25

They couldn't have slept in the car, it was snowing like mad and really cold. They'd have had to have found somewhere to sleep.

I'd be letting the owner know tbh. We once had a holiday let in Skye that was Saturday to Saturday. The owners let us know that the cottage would be ready on the Friday if we wanted to go right from work. No extra charge, they were just being nice. They hid their keys under a flowerpot mind!

Lottashakingoinon Mon 25-Mar-13 16:01:46

Just seen that changing the code idea wouldn't work if the ll lives in the UK. Minor point anyway...

CockyFox Mon 25-Mar-13 16:02:15

I turned up a day early for a caravan holiday once to be fair I was 17 and we were perfectly prepared to pay for an extra night or find a b and b it was just the train fare was significantly cheaper on the friday

woozlebear Mon 25-Mar-13 16:02:17


Totally deranged. YABU at all! Can imagine feeling really uncomfortable in your shoes, though, even though totally their fault!

cleofatra Mon 25-Mar-13 16:03:19

Do NOT feel bad. You don't know the crazy couple. In fact, you don't even know for sure that they had rented the property. They could be anyone.

livinginwonderland Mon 25-Mar-13 16:03:30

cheeky buggers!

Lottashakingoinon Mon 25-Mar-13 16:05:11

They couldn't have slept in the car, it was snowing like mad and really cold. They'd have had to have found somewhere to sleep

See now you're making me feel a bit guilty and I'm a callous bitch. But the point still stands that it was their fault, and totally within their control, and they were trying to get something for nothing.

This has the makings of a classic

theoriginalandbestrookie Mon 25-Mar-13 16:06:30

I'd let the owners know. That way you can get confirmation that they are still alive and also tell them what cheeky sods the people are so they can make sure that they get a thorough inspection done of the property at check out time.

weegiemum Mon 25-Mar-13 16:07:32

Nuts! I own a small holiday cottage and a larger house in Scotland.

All our advertising says May-Sept strictly sat-sat rentals only, but every year you get the ones who turn up on Friday night or before entry on sat (we do a locally pretty generous 2pm as our cleaner prefers mornings from 11 -2. You still get people pitching up at 10am wanting to "just drop their bags" etc. And the ones who want to leave on Thursday but not pay for the whole week.

I was delighted when I booked us a house in Italy for a week in he summer - was happy to pay from Sat but notified them we couldn't arrive till Sinday (only twice weekly flights from here). They knocked off a days rent - we will leave a couple of bottles of good wine as a thankyou!

landofsoapandglory Mon 25-Mar-13 16:07:35

That would have caused a row between DH and I. He would have been saying yes and offering a cup of tea, I would have been saying fuck off no and showing them the door.

YANBU, some people have the cheek of the devil!

jojane Mon 25-Mar-13 16:08:14

Why would you let them sleep there when they could be anyone? They could steal your money or a child etc.

weegiemum Mon 25-Mar-13 16:12:24

But have to tell you of the time some wild campers were washed out near our house. The only lint on was in the holiday cottage (we were still living in the now-rented house at the time) so the campers knocked on the door. Wet campers slept on the floor in the holiday cottage and both couples cooked breakfast together next morning, then we let he campers use our drying room/ tumble dryer and gave them coffee/books/small children to torment them!

On departure, cottage tourists said it was the highlight of their week!!

VivaLeBeaver Mon 25-Mar-13 16:40:58

I wouldn't have slept well if I'd let them stay and with an 18hr drive the next day it wouldn't have been fun.

Cheeky fuckers!!

Ok, this is an AIBU that no one is gonna say YABU surely!!!!!!!!!

PurpleStorm Mon 25-Mar-13 16:44:58

So there you are. Letting them stay would have made a difference.

I have no sympathy at all for them. They could easily have avoided the whole scenario of having to find somewhere to stay overnight at the last minute.

Snowsquonk Mon 25-Mar-13 16:50:28

We've stayed a couple of times at a lovely cottage in Cornwall, where the very nice owners live in their house close by. Lovely place - few farm animals, donkeys and the owners have several friendly dogs that come and see us - so we chatted often with the woman.

On our last day of a 2 week stay, she told us the people who had the cottage the week after us had been badgering her all week on the phone about coming earlier - despite her telling them that we had booked and paid for a fortnight - she said they even offered to pay her to persuade us to go early so they could come but she refused! Apparently it was because the weather was so fantastic (this was Easter 2 years ago when it was fab weather). Entitled or what?!

starfishmummy Mon 25-Mar-13 16:59:58

I am speechless at how cheeky some people can be. I would make sure to tell the owners.

SnotMeReally Mon 25-Mar-13 17:09:04

How many people are actually geting away with theft like this,I wonder! It would never have occurred to me that people would do this - then try to persuade a stranger to let them stay O/N in the house they have paid for!

I had assumed this would be a thread about someone accidentally turning up on the wrong start day.

i feel uneasy if we are a half hour late leaving FGS, and have only once sneaked in a half hour early as the DC were in need of the loo!

Pandemoniaa Mon 25-Mar-13 17:10:55

They could steal your money or a child etc.

Really? Steal a child? Would people seriously book a week's holiday, drive 15 hours to it, arrive early and then decide, on the spur of the moment, to steal a child just because they'd been allowed to sleep on the sofa? I think not!

But YWNBU in saying no to them OP. Sure, I'd have felt a tad guilty about the dark and the snow but actually, the couple brought this entirely upon themselves and actually, having to share the apartment with complete strangers on the very night you are trying to get sorted to leave before a long journey home would be a bloody nightmare.

Not for the first time I realise that people really can be very strange indeed.

FantasticMax Mon 25-Mar-13 17:11:42

Ooh how rude! Well done for kicking them out, it was absolutely the right thing to do and will hopefully make them think twice about doing it again.

Definitely tell the owner. Are they still staying there?

VivaLeBeaver Mon 25-Mar-13 17:13:54

Yep they're still there. Hadn't thought about telling the owner but maybe I should.

LadyBeagleEyes Mon 25-Mar-13 17:16:38

Cheeky buggers.
And I have spent an inordinate amount of time cleaning holiday cottages here in the Highlands, people leave Saturday morning by 11.00, and we clean till two.
I have had people buggering around after checkout time and that's just cheeky too.

expatinscotland Mon 25-Mar-13 17:19:28

YANBU! Brass load of cheek they've got! I'd have kicked them out, too. Sure, let some random stranger sleep there. My arse!

TheCraicDealer Mon 25-Mar-13 17:19:41

Really? Steal a child? Would people seriously book a week's holiday, drive 15 hours to it, arrive early and then decide, on the spur of the moment, to steal a child just because they'd been allowed to sleep on the sofa?

That made me ROFL, Pandemoniaa. You can see the thread now- "Forced to sleep on sofa after long drive- WIBU to steal their child in recompense?"

Tailtwister Mon 25-Mar-13 17:20:57

YANBU! I would have done the same thing.

Pandemoniaa Mon 25-Mar-13 17:21:53

grin Craic.

hermioneweasley Mon 25-Mar-13 17:22:21

I would have kicked them out, felt indignant....and then worried about them (as you have done!)

But I still think you were right to kick them out. Cheeky feckers - trying to make it your problem!

carabos Mon 25-Mar-13 17:26:37

I have experienced this in reverse. We arrived in France to stay at a friend's holiday home. They were in the UK and had an arrangement with a locally based expat British couple to manage the place for them - not as a favour, on a commercial basis.

We arrived on the specified day only to be told by the woman that as the place "wasn't ready" we would have to stay at the hotel in the village hmm. We made the point that we didn't mind if it wasn't ready, we would manage for the night and she could get everything done the next day - we didn't want to stay in a hotel and nor had we budgeted for it.

Cutting a long story short, it turned out that she had put some other people into the house, charging them the going rate and took the chance that we would go along with the hotel thing because we are close friends with the owners and wouldn't want to make a fuss.

We did wonder why she would think that, rather than the obvious response, which was for us to phone our friends and tell them that they were being ripped off.

We never did get entry to the house - she offered to let us have her letting bedroom at her own place - at the going rate - so she was effectively trying to earn money from both our friend's house and her own shock. She was pretty brazen about it.

Bogeyface Mon 25-Mar-13 17:28:31

I think kicking them out was the right thing to do if only because it means that they wont try to do that again. They have learnt a valuable lesson! I would let the landlord know in a "Was there a mix up with bookings? because a couple turned up on Friday night....." kind of way!

Bogeyface Mon 25-Mar-13 17:29:54

Carabos, that it outrageous! what happened? Did you end up having to go home?

What did your friends say?

scripsi Mon 25-Mar-13 17:30:21

It really is theft, you must absolutely tell the owners! I wonder if they were going to extend their stay by the same reasoning?!

everlong Mon 25-Mar-13 17:31:47

Blimey you could have been mid shag! shock

expatinscotland Mon 25-Mar-13 17:32:21

I'd tell the owners. Cheeky feckers.

NatashaBee Mon 25-Mar-13 17:36:37

YANBU at all, hopefully it will teach them not to be so cheeky in future!

StanleyLambchop Mon 25-Mar-13 18:16:18

I suspect they have done it before and got away with it. She seemed very brazen for a 'first timer'. (I would have been a nervous wreck doing this, incase we were caught)

DontmindifIdo Mon 25-Mar-13 18:23:44

Please tell the owner!!! go on, today while the renters are still there. Say you were upset by it too - you might get some of your money back...

That is unbelievably cheeky! Wondering if I could get an extra night in the summer wink

ChasedByBees Mon 25-Mar-13 18:28:54

Carabos that is outrageous!

OP I can't believe the cheek of some people.

carabos Mon 25-Mar-13 18:35:57

bogey we spent a few days at the woman's "gite" being fobbed off every day that we could go to our friend's house "tomorrow". In the end we drove 1000 km to FiL and MiL's place in Spain and spent the rest of the holiday there. Our friends were mortified.

Startail Mon 25-Mar-13 18:37:32

Holiday lets are Sat pm to Sat am unless very clearly stated otherwise.
I have done an odd mid week one this time of year because the camp site had let the caravan Good Friday onwards and they let us have it for a few days to see family the week before.

aldiwhore Mon 25-Mar-13 18:40:28

I was going to say 'it depends on the situation' but only because I didn't read the title properly, we quite often ask if we can add days either end if there's no booking and so far we've only been turned down once, with one particular set of owners they don't charge us either (we always buy them flowers/gift etc).

YANBU and the situation you describe is absolutely outrageous!! You did the right thing but I understand why you worried.

Cheeky fuckers!

Bogeyface Mon 25-Mar-13 18:49:40

I take it that the woman was sacked Carabos? I would be fuming if I was them!

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