To think jogging with a baby under six months is ridiculous?

(59 Posts)
stopgap Fri 22-Mar-13 22:01:08

Okay, so I live in Workout Central (Manhattan) but I am dumbfounded by the number of women who attach a car seat to a stroller (not even a jogging stroller in many cases) and go running in the park, often with teeny tiny newborns on board.

Am I being too PFB about this? My own paediatrician gave me the go-ahead to run with DS when he was six months, but it seems like I'm in the minority.

AIBU? Is this phenomena purely an exercise-crazy American thing?

OhDearieDearieMe Fri 22-Mar-13 22:02:27

I'm not sure I get your concern. They're not dragging the babies behind the pushchair are they? What's your concern?

lottiegarbanzo Fri 22-Mar-13 22:02:59

It won't be good for the mothers' joints, still a bit loose til 6 months.

fuckwittery Fri 22-Mar-13 22:03:09

I went running at 12 weeks and that was post c section.

Saffra Fri 22-Mar-13 22:05:06

All those vibrations and jerky movements won't be good for the baby. Yanbu!

Sanjifair Fri 22-Mar-13 22:05:28

They should have good control of their head to be in a jogging buggy. Think that is normally well before 6 months, no?

zimmyzammyzoom Fri 22-Mar-13 22:05:53

I'm in the UK and jogged with my twins since they were about 4 months old. What's the problem? I don't think they even notice the difference from walking but I have got an all terrain mountain buggy, they just sleep.

stifnstav Fri 22-Mar-13 22:06:46

Oh heck, am I expected to leave the house at some point? And then engage in... movement?!

zimmyzammyzoom Fri 22-Mar-13 22:06:47

Mine lie flat though. Don't know if that makes it ok?

Wincher Fri 22-Mar-13 22:07:30

I used to do a buggy bootcamp class in the park which involved some jogging. It always sent DS to sleep nicely! When he was a bit older and I used to jog home from nursery with him he used to giggle and giggle! However I then realised how much harder it was not being able to use my arms so started running after dh got home in the evenings instead.

stopgap Fri 22-Mar-13 22:08:27

Because newborns don't have head control and because strollers without fixed wheels are not so stable. I have a Bob, and if I don't click the wheel into running mode, it feels mighty unstable when I'm running.

I saw the best ever the other day: a guy with a car seat attached to an UppaBaby, repeatedly pushing the stroller six feet ahead and then running to catch up with it!

EarnestDullard Fri 22-Mar-13 22:09:40

I would have thought you'd need a specialised jogging buggy with really good suspension to go running with a baby. As Saffra said, the bumping around can't be good for babies, especially very young ones.

BikeRunSki Fri 22-Mar-13 22:10:55

Maybe because they want to?
I like exercise, I like running (I also like Central Park).
I find that physical exercise makes me feel better when I am a bit down, or bored or upset or vulnerable or whatever. I ran with both of my babies in an appropriate pushchair because I wanted to and made me feel good.

Gatorade Fri 22-Mar-13 22:14:27

I started running with DD from 10 weeks old, she was in a maxi cosi attached to a decent off road/running puschair. I personally think its great to get the little ones out in the fresh air everyday and set them a good example that excercise should be part of normal everyday life from an early age.

For what it's worth my closest friend is a paediatrician and she did the same. I think as long as you're sticking to paths and the baby isn't bouncing around too much then it is actually a good thing!

DD is now 13 months old and loves going out for a run in the puschair!

gwenniebee Fri 22-Mar-13 22:15:22

My maxi cosi on the uppababy was fine for jogging on smooth surfaces from when my dd was about three months. Even when just walking, I was really paranoid about all the bumps when on a shoogly surface but on a smooth pavement I felt completely comfortable with it.

fuckwittery Sat 23-Mar-13 07:27:41

I just noticed the car seat bit. whenever I did buggy fitness with my babies (from 12 weeks post section, you can do it from 6 weeks if normal birth) I always strapped them into the maxi cosi car seat for more support, on a bugaboo. why do you need a special jogging buggy again?
We were running up and down bumpy grass hills, and did lots of pushing buggies ahead and catching. Babies usually fell asleep.

Montybojangles Sat 23-Mar-13 07:30:09

stifnstav grin

skaen Sat 23-Mar-13 07:33:09

Yabu. I started running when DS was 4 months and he absolutely loved it. He was strapped it and wrapped up so very little movement at all.

Why encourage people not to exercise? That just seems odd to me.

2beornot Sat 23-Mar-13 07:39:40

Why can't you run with a baby in a car seat? They are meant for cars and I imagine thats much bumpier and a over a longer timescale? Seems very PFB to me!!

ChestyLeRoux Sat 23-Mar-13 07:40:05

This is totally normal, and doubt it will do any harm. Ive done it with both mine

EmmelineGoulden Sat 23-Mar-13 07:54:01

Central Park has smooth tarmac paths. I don't see the problem with a baby going over them at jogging speed in a buggy. Most of the pavements in New York are more likely to jolt a new born than the paths in Central Park..

Possibly not the best for the mothers' bodies to jog so soon after giving birth, but slobbing around for four years like I've done would be worse.

AnisotropicWeetabixFTW Sat 23-Mar-13 07:58:26

I was running again at 8 weeks post cs. I have a jogging buggy and ran on smooth paths. Smoother than a car in all likelihood.

ChestyLeRoux Sat 23-Mar-13 08:00:01

I get might be hard on mothers body a week after birth, but definitely not a couple of months in unless the person was very unfit to start with.

quesadilla Sat 23-Mar-13 08:00:32

I don't think it's a risk to the babies but it is a bit ostentatious and me, me, me, and yes, American.

Zara1984 Sat 23-Mar-13 08:08:29

All the running buggies say you shouldn't use them for running until about 4-6 months (that's why I'm only looking at getting one now at 5 months). It's due to baby's head control. Even if they are in a carseat I'd wager than running is nowhere near as smooth a ride as in a car!

YANBU...

TBH I try and run in the morning before DH goes to work (ie leave baby at home) to try and get some time to myself! Not sure if I'd get the same relaxation running with a buggy!

RubyGates Sat 23-Mar-13 08:56:42

Gosh, I should tell the meet-up group that jogs in the park behind my house every week to stay indoors, not go out and not get any exercise ever then should I?

Because they're not going to invest in an expensive jogging thingumy just for half-an-hour round the park, and they can't afford to go to the gym.

Lets's keep those new mummies indoors and isolated where they belong! (Unless they can afford expensive accessories, gym membership and a babysitter, obviously)

KitCat26 Sat 23-Mar-13 09:16:50

Yabu, sorry.

Those car seats are designed to protect a the baby in event of a car accident I really don't think baby will come to any harm with a bit of jogging!

Good on them for getting out and trying to get fit so quick took me 2 years!.

acceptableinthe80s Sat 23-Mar-13 09:54:24

I don't think spending long periods of time in a car seat is very healthy for young babies, they breathe easier lying flat but i don't see the problem if they're in a proper stroller.
Saying that i used to walk ds for miles every day when he was tiny and the pavements where i lived were very uneven/bumpy and i remember panicking that his little brain was getting jostled around and cursing the state of the pavements.
Didn't do myself any favours though as it got to the point he would only fall asleep if taken on a very bumpy walk, flat pavements just didn't cut it sad.

lljkk Sat 23-Mar-13 10:02:30

Ridiculous? Hmmm... oh well, I've been called worse on MN.
I didn't take baby with me (all of 10 days old), though, that part would have been ridiculous. And very unnecessary.

golemmings Sat 23-Mar-13 10:21:47

I did buggy fit with dd when she was 4mo. I was using a bugaboo which I've subsequently discovered you shouldn't run with. Didn't seem to do her any harm although I swapped back to my p&t when i realised.

I started running properly when DS was 6w, doing c25k. I didn't often take him with me but he did do the race for life with me when he was 9mo. The course was rutted tracks and he loved splashing through the puddles!

They are both speed demons still and love going for a buggy run!

TheBigJessie Sat 23-Mar-13 10:43:36

I've never even heard of a jogging stroller...

Young babies shouldn't be in car seats for long periods, so I can be judgy about that, if you like.

ceeveebee Sat 23-Mar-13 10:51:03

I did buggyfit with my twins in their car seats from 12 weeks old, never thought there was any risk (tbh it was just power walking then lots of squats etc)

TheBigJessie Sat 23-Mar-13 11:05:07

I don't know of any risk to babies from what the pusher is doing while pushing the travel system, but car seats can be dangerous per se for young babies.

www.dbh.nhs.uk/Car_seat_awareness.aspx

If more people knew, travel system manufacturers would probably make less money.

forevergreek Sat 23-Mar-13 12:16:21

You aren't supposed to jog with a baby until 6months, and them yes in a jogging stroller

Buggy fit etc with fast walking etc is fine younger

stopgap Sat 23-Mar-13 12:26:23

Babyjogger says six months for smooth pavements, and mentions nothing about head control or car seats: http://www.babyjogger.com/faq.aspx#faq3

I'm not advocating that mothers stay indoors--far from it. I've been a runner for close to twenty years. I just think--from experience of running with my own stroller--that the stability is not there if a. You don't use a jogging stroller with a fixed wheel b. There is too much jostling for a baby who is, say, a month old.

KobayashiMaru Sat 23-Mar-13 12:37:45

So what damage do you think they are doing, and how come none of them have noticed any problems?

forevergreek Sat 23-Mar-13 14:23:28
Gatorade Sat 23-Mar-13 16:30:37

I believe the nipper sport is a jogging puschair that is suitable from birth (I started using at ten weeks)

www.outnabout.com/products/nipper-sport.asp

Echocave Sat 23-Mar-13 16:37:30

Wow ! I'm with stifnstav on this - you lot are impressive mothers!!
I'm not moving and DC nearly 18 months [DC may have appropriate head control but echocave lacks necessary self control..]

My MW gave us the go ahead very soon. DH likes to run. DD had very good head control so it was fine. All depends on the baby.

Wishihadabs Sat 23-Mar-13 16:45:56

Offs only in America

EmmelineGoulden Sat 23-Mar-13 17:37:20

From the livestrong link "If you run near high-traffic areas or on uneven terrain, you may want to save your jogging stroller until your baby is at least a year old and can wear a helmet while you run". grin Was it published on April 1? Or are there lots of injured babies out there from all those selfish running mothers??

lljkk Sat 23-Mar-13 18:36:49

I think it was nearly made a law in California that babies in strollers had to wear helmets. It is a legal requirement that all children under 14 on any other wheeled device (skates, tricycle, bicycle, bike seat, bike trailor, skateboard, etc.) must wear a helmet.

It's a criminal offence not to. hmm

So really don't see why babies in buggies would be excepted if the law made any sense.

LivingThings Sat 23-Mar-13 21:03:02

I ran with both of mine lying flat in a P&T Sport from 5 weeks post cs. They loved it! Moved them on to a proper Babyjogger with big wheels and brakes at 6 months or so. Dd who is nearly 3 still loves it and happily snoozes if i take her out.

HypatiaTheProcrastinator Sat 23-Mar-13 21:47:41

It is potentially dangerous for babies whether people believe it or not. And helmets are a very good idea to prevent brain damage (you can get flat backed ones for use in pushchairs). It's easy to think there are no issues doing it, but you can't see minor brain damage immediately and it would be easy to never notice. Babies can be falling asleep because they feel dizzy or are having head rushes, not necessarily because they find it soothing. There is a big difference in terrains though and proper jogging pushchairs will absorb shocks from the ground as well as from the runner bouncing the handlebar. I don't think the risks are worth the benefits personally even if they're small risks, and I find it painful to see people jogging with inappropriate pushchairs but there isn't much information about safe running from the likes of Buggy Fit so I can understand thinking it's completely safe.

Wishihadabs Sun 24-Mar-13 12:18:18

Hypatia how is it potentially dangerous ? Health and safety gone mad. You and your pfb are far more likely to die from preventable obesity related conditions.

RubyGates Sun 24-Mar-13 18:56:42

Flat-backed helmets available for use in push-chairs?
Oh my.

KobayashiMaru Sun 24-Mar-13 19:20:21

Could just wrap them up in layers of cotton wool......

I can't see it being very bumpy to be honest - as long as the parent is running on a concrete type path, it should be quite smooth.

gwenniebee Mon 25-Mar-13 17:20:28

There are a few people on here saying about car seats not being suitable for long periods, too - which is true, but only the most fitness-keen new mums would be running for longer than the 90 minutes which is the recommended maximum time to be in a car seat! In my case the baby was in the seat for about 25 minutes, I reckon.

forevergreek Mon 25-Mar-13 20:04:44

A baby shouldn't be in a car seat more than 30 mins at a time. So for most that's a 10 min walk to park and back, leaving 10 mins to jog, not much point really.

Longer than 30 mins shouldnt be a daily thing, but ok of visiting relatives etc. a babies windpipe is like a non bendy straw, so add a kink in that and they can't breathe properly.

allbie Mon 25-Mar-13 20:40:22

I ran till I was 28 wks pregnant then ran with my DS from 4 months in a great buggy. I ran with him till he was 4 and he loved it. We both got an awful lot out of it. We ran for half an hour, 4 times a week. He is my fourth child and I am still running in the morning when I drop him at school. My eldest son, 19 yrs, now runs and I am glad to see that I have given my children a very positive example. Can't wait till my kids have kids and expect their partners to run with them! Ho! MIL from hell,eh?

gwenniebee Wed 27-Mar-13 20:09:08

Forever, we were told 90 minutes. I don't mean to be flippant about it, because I know it is a genuine issue, but if you were restricted to 30 mins lots of people near where I live (rural) would rarely be able to get to a big supermarket, let alone visiting relatives etc. On the other hand, it does mean there is no need to drive before you run - just get out the door!

forevergreek Thu 28-Mar-13 07:35:42

Sure, but if you live 45 mins from supermarket, then those people should def make sure they aren't pushing baby around supermarket in car seat but take them out and place in trolley seat/ pram if with someone/ sling. As just there and back is already 90 minutes.

Like I said people can choose to do what thy like, but maybe they should research a little first.

lljkk Thu 28-Mar-13 08:39:48

er, aren't supermarket trolley seats shaped exactly like bucket car seats? confused

I think the anecdotal evidence is pretty compelling that babies are a lot tougher than much of this evidence makes out.

Step Thu 28-Mar-13 10:31:15

YABVU.

9 months of no running when PG, then at last freedom to run and the baby sleeps too whilst he's being pushed. He's happy.. I'm happy, you're not. Tough.

Pigsmummy Thu 28-Mar-13 11:01:51

The car seat is the safest thing for them to be in and it won't harm the baby at all, the vast majority of chassis that fit the car seat will also be the chassis for the pushchair so what makes you think that they are not suitable? the vast majority of these, even four wheeled ones have suspension built in and I guess that these women are running through parks/pavements (side walks) rather than rough terrain? All that lovely fresh air for baby and exercise for Mummy! YABU

Pigsmummy Thu 28-Mar-13 11:09:06

The car seat will be much more secure than a pram/lying flat option which I wouldn't entertain for running.

WoTmania Thu 28-Mar-13 11:12:15

I thought you were going to say with them in a sling or something. YABU

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