Jeremery kyle AIBU

(78 Posts)
Domjolly Tue 19-Mar-13 15:31:09

Now whilest i think everyone has a right to apply to what shows they like i really think that some extra layer of safeguard should be had to apper of this show just watching now

The people on apper to have very low eye qs ( this is not a dig btw) i really dont think they can have any idea of how they are representing themselves on TV i would aimagin this would effect getting a job ect or are these people actors like TOWIEconfused

I belive that the philpots were on JK its the same
With BGT and things like that people are being taken advantage of on this show

Iaintdunnuffink Tue 19-Mar-13 15:32:36

Love the autocorrect, low eye qs grin

Domjolly Tue 19-Mar-13 15:33:12

I not the sharpest tool by any means but who is looking out for these peoples welfare.
And giving them some independent advice before going on the show makeing sure they understand the ramifications of going on a show like this to tell the world your not sure out of 8 men who the dad is shock

Domjolly Tue 19-Mar-13 15:33:45

Sorry IQ hehe blush

PrincessRagnhild Tue 19-Mar-13 15:34:29

Stop watching it then. If they have no audience they will cancel the show and the world will be a slightly better place.

squeakytoy Tue 19-Mar-13 15:36:18

There wouldnt be much of a show if the guests had to pass any sort of IQ test before they appeared.

Dawndonna Tue 19-Mar-13 15:37:45

It's okay, Dom, they're probably all on benefits, which means you can dismiss them, along with child poverty, etc. hmm

Domjolly Tue 19-Mar-13 15:38:26

squeakytoy i always hoped most might be actors like TOWIE until i read the guy to set fire to his 6 kids was on there

Pandemoniaa Tue 19-Mar-13 15:38:47

very low eye qs

Almost as good as "penis gloves".

Jeremery kyle?

Best spellcheck fail today gringringrin

Poppet48 Tue 19-Mar-13 15:39:23

I think that the Jeremy Kyle show is set up sometimes just to make it that little more 'interesting' just like the Jerry Springer show.

I stopped watching it as soon as I saw 'I slept with 15 men, DNA test my partner' I mean... really?

Domjolly Tue 19-Mar-13 15:40:04

Dawndonna are actaully i didnt mention anything of the sort so no need to be rude i dont belive my post was rude or attacked you in any way so no need

You if you just jumped on the thread to be horrible then dont i not looking for a bun fight though i can see you are

Pigsmummy Tue 19-Mar-13 15:40:10

AIBU to expect you to be able to spell his name correctly if you are going to start an AIBU about him?

Domjolly Tue 19-Mar-13 15:41:26

Poppet48 do they pay people i do remember years back the venssa felz show got done for setting things up

Did we ever find out what penis gloves were??

Domjolly Tue 19-Mar-13 15:42:07

Pigsmummy yes you would wouldnt you hmm

Pandemoniaa Tue 19-Mar-13 15:42:15

I'm starving. I wish someone would throw a bun in my direction.

But I digress. In all honesty, everyone knows what the JK Show is like. IQ has nothing to do with it. So I have no sympathy for the attention-seeking collection of dysfunctional individuals who queue up to wash their dirty linen on television.

hiddenhome Tue 19-Mar-13 15:42:28

It exploits its guests and positively revels in encouraging the audience to judge these unfortunates. I am guilty of watching it, but try hard not to now because I know its wrong sad

Domjolly Tue 19-Mar-13 15:44:26

You dont think the people think the actually may get some help he talks alot of the after care support.

I think iys only after they watched if after they think what have i done

Poppet48 Tue 19-Mar-13 15:45:44

I am just guessing but considering how Jeremy Kyle treats the guests sometimes and some of the more ridiculous story lines then going by that yes I do think that they get paid to appear on the show.

Domjolly Tue 19-Mar-13 15:47:29

I will say i think some people just make things up so they get there 5 minutes some of these cant be real there is no way some one would come on tv and say the things they say

maddening Tue 19-Mar-13 15:50:05

I don't think anyone remotely sane would go on that sort of show.

Haven't seen more than a couple of mins of jk (the time it takes to find the remote) but as a teen we used to watch riki lake etc in the school holidays and they are awful shows.

Pandemoniaa Tue 19-Mar-13 15:50:21

You'd be amazed at what people will say in public. I work in the media and have regularly been astonished at the intimate detail that people are prepared to share with the press.

Wowserz129 Tue 19-Mar-13 15:51:52

I understand why people go on the show for certain reasons but not so much others. Things like DNA tests can be done through courts/privately.

However drug addicts get private rehab etc I understand that completely.

Domjolly Tue 19-Mar-13 15:54:17

I just feel sad for there kids i think thats the worst for me that they avtaully take the kids along and show them on on the background while the parents are dukeing it out

digerd Tue 19-Mar-13 15:55:10

I used to watch Maury a US DNA and lie detector testing programme. He was lovely, and didn't pass judgement or have a go at his guests. He was always very sympathetic and kind, even when the 20th man was proved not to be the father, < sometimes>.

The programme was more about the quest in finding the father. Must say though, that the guests were more dignified and polite, compared with those on Jeremy Kyle here. .

In the Maury one, I learned 2 things -. it is possible to have twins by 2 different fathers and did happen that a woman conveived at 49 on the last day of her monthly cycle!!

catgirl1976 Tue 19-Mar-13 15:56:06

YANBU

I won't watch it. It is horribly exploatiative

Domjolly Tue 19-Mar-13 15:56:27

digerd well never let it be said were to old for a education grin

Domjolly Tue 19-Mar-13 15:57:45

I also think they should make it over 18 to go on the show not over 16

SneakyNinja Tue 19-Mar-13 15:57:48

Are you kidding me?! Maury was the most exploitive talk show of the lot. I used to feel incredibly uncomfortable watching it.

Domjolly Tue 19-Mar-13 16:00:05

See for me i just find jk the worst one he shouts at the gusest and whilest some of what he is saying is ture to some extent its the venom he say it with espically as he has a very checkered past himslef

The one on now is particularly exploitative. They are teenage kids FFS hmm

manicinsomniac Tue 19-Mar-13 16:14:26

YANBU

A girl I knew from my class at secondary school was on it once. Some hideous scandal about sleeping with her sister's boyfriend or some other drama filled rubbish. She came across really badly.

What the show didn't mention was that she had struggled at school, her mum killed herself when she was 12, her Dad was always drinking and, while I don't know if he was actually abusive, he was really scary, she was pregnant by age 15 to a much older boyfriend who just took off, she left school with no qualifications and she has basically had fuck all chance at getting herself a decent life.

Those are the kind of people this show exploits and I think it's disgusting.

Domjolly Tue 19-Mar-13 16:26:54

Do you know if she was paid?

Did you know she was going on or were you just shocked to see her sitting there there one day whilest sitting at home

digerd Tue 19-Mar-13 16:27:26

Domjolly
Yes, I am a bit long in the tooth now, but still excites me to learn new things that interest me.

Jeremy Kyle tries to control the show but fails miseraby and is getting boring as he is always the father. With Maury you never knew who of the 3/4 were the father or none of them!!
I enjoyed Maury, but dislike the jerry Springer Show

Domjolly Tue 19-Mar-13 16:28:13

I also wonder as a number of these people are involved with ss why ss dont advise then not to go on i sure those with children in care this can help there case

Domjolly Tue 19-Mar-13 16:29:17

I ment cant help there case

itshothere Tue 19-Mar-13 16:32:24

JK annoys me far more than any of his 'guests'. I'm surprised he hasn't been punched in the face before now. Irritating spittle mouthed smug bastard.
Don't know if you've had the pleasure of the USA version? Equally awful hmm

bakingaddict Tue 19-Mar-13 16:35:47

I often wonder how JK sleeps at night as choosing to make a living by openly sneering at life's more misfortunate people seems like a weird vocation to me. I think of him as no better than a pimp, exploiting other peoples less than better starts in life for his and the TV companies financial gain.

Even his recent episode of testicular cancer failed to inspire much sympathy in me as I find his TV persona so repulsive and odious and i'm usually a compassionate type of person

Domjolly Tue 19-Mar-13 16:37:34

I wouldnt mind him being so smug is his background wasnt so similar to those he chooses to sneer at

Domjolly Tue 19-Mar-13 16:39:44

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Kyle

I was just like pot calling a kettel black anyone

akaemmafrost Tue 19-Mar-13 16:40:29

Maury's Guests "dignified and polite"? All those men dancing round the stage when Maury tells them they are "Not The Father!" and the women (and usually their mothers) screaming and flopping around on the flood when potential "Baby-Daddy No 9" is given a pass?

I agree about JK being exploitative but I still watch it.

akaemmafrost Tue 19-Mar-13 16:41:21

Floor! Not flood obviously

Tiredmumno1 Tue 19-Mar-13 16:41:40

Mrscumberbatch, penis gloves were meant to be peanuts grin

He is an arrogant, oily, cowardly, thick, TWAT of the highest order.
The episode where somebody decks him will be a ratings winner for sure.

nancerama Tue 19-Mar-13 16:41:53

My friend is a social worker and is regularly asked to provide statements to the Jeremy Kyle show when her clients apply to go on. It takes up valuable time that she could and should be spending actually supporting the families. If the families don't get their 5 minutes of fame, she gets the blame, thus undermining the trust she has worked do hard to build up. The show helps no one.

nancerama Tue 19-Mar-13 16:43:26

Did anyone see him being set up by Ant and Dec. His reaction was really scary - made me feel sick. He showed his true colours as an abusive control freak.

Domjolly Tue 19-Mar-13 16:51:24

nancerama please say your kidding cant ss advise them not to go i am shocked they would support there cliants on going on the show

Dear lord what have we come to when we have people begging ss to tell JK what a mess there lives are so they can get on the show confused

Dose this ever get brought up in case conferences i woulld imagin this would defo go agisnt you when trying to get your child back

DPs ex has been on it with her partner. They had dna test, which proved he was childs father, and a lie detector as she had supposedly cheated while he in prison (nice, I know) which she failed all three questions on.

DP exes family are decent people and were apparently horrified when asked by JKs team to go on the show. Her Dad especially was apalled.

Guess what? Hes back in prison.......

DP is embarrassed to have been her partner.

manicinsomniac Tue 19-Mar-13 16:55:09

Domjolly I don't know, sorry, I only heard about it and how it went through facebook, I saw a badly uploaded clip but I didn't watch and I don't know her anymore.

Mynewmoniker Tue 19-Mar-13 17:04:19

Read the book 'How to Spot a Psycopath' and a researcher interviewed in there admits she looked at the medical forms the prospective clients had filled in to appear on a simillar American show. She always picked out clients on Prozac or simillar as they were most likely to behave irrationally when things kicked of and give good television.

She is not proud of doing it now.

She also tells of what went wrong on an American 10 Years Younger show. sad

nancerama Tue 19-Mar-13 17:15:23

Dom of course SS can advise people not to go on the show, but unfortunately the people going on the show aren't reasonable or rational. They are looking for the quick fix and easy answer.

Groovee Tue 19-Mar-13 17:18:19

I have seen colleagues hard work of months go down the drain in minutes after clients have returned from a "holiday". The production team deliberately target deprived area's and offer it as a free holiday. Then they arrive at the holiday, are split up and their "chaperones" ply them with alcohol and spend time winding the guests up and getting them to send texts etc.

We had someone actually sit and watch all the shows to check none of our clients were on it but 5 families we were working with all appeared in a 6 month window on the show. It's very frustrating for all your hard work to go down the drain and be back at square one.

marjproops Tue 19-Mar-13 17:28:04

Maybe the NSPCC and Social services should watch this show. Poor poor children, the real victims, my heart breaks for them.

loopylou6 Tue 19-Mar-13 17:29:57

Someone I know has just recorded a JK show, you don't get paid, but you do get put up in a posh hotel.

Oodsigma Tue 19-Mar-13 19:06:21

I work for children's services, have worked with families who've been on JK. They often go on at very short notice so we wouldn't get time to see them between planning and appearing on the show. Colleague did manse to prevent a teen mum being on though.

digerd Tue 19-Mar-13 19:14:33

And the DNA test is free.

PolarIceBears Tue 19-Mar-13 19:36:14

Grove, sorry don't quite get what you mean, do you mean JK staff offer free holidays then manipulate situations to get them on the show? shock

Groovee Wed 20-Mar-13 07:20:04

Yes, they go round the area, knocking on doors and leaving leaflets. They manipulate them onto the show through telling them its a free holiday and then they light the firework and sit back and watch the explosions.

Its exploiting the vulnerable. Because at the end of the day that is what these "guests" are. Many stories have been fed back of no aftercare like Jezza claims. sad

ithaka Wed 20-Mar-13 07:31:30

I judge the people who watch Jeremy Kyle far more harshly than the guests. How can they?

wanderings Wed 20-Mar-13 07:34:52

From the latest Adrian Mole book:

Pandora Braithwaite MP: "Oh I adore Jeremy Kyle, it helps us MPs know our constituents without having to visit their vile estates."

OnwardBound Wed 20-Mar-13 07:43:12

I think this show is a disgrace and JK should be thoroughly ashamed of himself.

I used to watch the old Trisha show on occasion. Although this also had guests in obvious distress and despair, with drug and alcohol problems and quite possibly mental health issues to boot, at least it seemed that Trisha listened to their stories and tried to give them some helpful advice. She was quite firm on occasion but also reasonably compassionate. I think she may also have some training in counselling? But she also freely discussed her own mental health issues and experiences in therapy which I think might be very reassuring and encouraging to some of these unhappy individuals.

JK however belittles and berates his guests. He is a narcissistic egomaniac who thrives on being the big man, talking down to and humiliating these often disturbed and depressed individuals.

And he has very little wisdom nor common sense to impart anyway.

I struggle to see there is anything of value in his show, it is purely exploitative entertainment for the masses, like the colliseums of old.

One day I fear a real tragedy in terms of a guest who just couldn't bear being baited and humiliated in this terrible way, thus doing an injury to themselves or someone else sad

IneedAsockamnesty Wed 20-Mar-13 07:44:51

But on the upside op, it gives you a very visible group of people to look down on and use to formulate many of your viewpoints about people.whilst being all superior.

If you hate it stop watching by watching you are contributing towards it existing.

But thanks for posting I had wondered where you got most of your views about life from,now I know.

EmmaBemma Wed 20-Mar-13 07:44:55

"I judge the people who watch Jeremy Kyle far more harshly than the guests."

Me too. Whenever anyone tells me they watch it I can't help but like them a little less, even though I can no longer be bothered to try to persuade them with the arguments made on this thread.

CoteDAzur Wed 20-Mar-13 07:54:50

"The people on apper to have very low eye qs"

Oh the sweet irony smile

Yes, people on JK who make fools of themselves on national TV are clearly not genius material, but neither are their spectators whose idea of entertainment seems to be watching vile strangers scream at each other.

ifancyashandy Wed 20-Mar-13 08:04:12

They don't get paid (OFCOM rules) and each person appearing has to provide 2 x people to corroborate their story (and those 2 corroborators must be different for all people involved in the situation). This helps prove the story is true.

fluffyraggies Wed 20-Mar-13 08:04:12

I used to watch JK quite regularly, about 6 or 7 years ago. I found it fascinating and horrifying at the same time.

Then the fascination bit stopped and i started finding the whole thing utterly utterly depressing. I cannot and will not watch it now.

If i walk in and find the DCs (teens) with it on downstairs i make them turn it off, and tell them why. For the umpteenth time.

I think this must be similar to how my nan felt when, at 93, she said she didn't understand this new world and she was afraid of where it was going sometimes sad

<feels old>

seriouscakeeater Wed 20-Mar-13 08:18:58

I have actually emailed ITV on this before as its highly explotive to many of the guests. Jk is an odious man who leads his victims guests down the path of humiliation.
I can't bear to hear his voice and it gets switched off immidiatly .

colleysmill Wed 20-Mar-13 08:21:43

In my younger days (showing my age) I used to listen to his radio show late at night on BRMB - he was known as Jezza then - and I remember loving it. people would phone up with problems and they would try and solve them. It was less controversial originally. At the time the callers all appeared to be genuine although I guess there's no way to confirm this.

I always remember one lady who phoned up in a complete panic having found a lost child in a park late one night whilst walking her dog - they helped her to call social services and the police.

loopylou6 Wed 20-Mar-13 08:46:22

Why on earth would she call a radio station and not the police confused

zeldapinwheel Wed 20-Mar-13 08:57:34

I don't know about backstage aftercare, from what I've seen many of them could do with some backstage dentistry.

colleysmill Wed 20-Mar-13 09:37:51

From what I remember (it was a loooong time ago) I think she had but she was still waiting sometime later. These were the pre mobile days - she was in a phone box and the radio called her back as she didn't have a lot of coins on her.

BegoniaBampot Wed 20-Mar-13 10:29:38

Is anyone surprised that the production team manipulate the guests and wind them up? I find it hard to believe Kyle can be proud about how he earns a buck, he is smug, odious man. The show where a young guy threw an envelope at him was hilarious especially even he reacted as though a hand grenade had been Teton at him.

Tricia Goddard is just as bad now.

It's a pile of wank. That is all.

hairtearing Wed 20-Mar-13 10:40:47

Its not quite up there with Maury yet is it? women who run backstage and cry when the 27th DNA test isn't 'the one' is awful its like watching an open wound and poking it.
And those poor bloody kids :/
I've been an audience member, its wasn't a particularly explosive one though.

Kafri Wed 20-Mar-13 11:22:30

It's got worse as the years have gone on.
I used to listen to 'Jezzas confessions' on't radio which was rather entertaining to be honest blush
Now the JK show is just pure shouting - J shouting at guests/guests shouting at J/guests shouting at each other. His line 'it says Jeremy Kyle on the wall, i'm taking you shut up' really grates on me!!

The sentimental ones are quite sweet - when he's doling out special events for sick kids etc

But the rest are just pure tosh - especially the ones where he's preying on people who don't know any better.
As for the poster who commented about needing a SW ref - thats awful. The SW I work with have far too much to do to waste time filling out ref's for JK - none of them get to see the kids I work with as much as they would like cos of their caseload and the amount of paperwork that follows each visit.

FarleyD Wed 20-Mar-13 12:33:15

OP, you need to change your tv viewing habits - seems all the programmes you've been watching recently leave you in a state of outrage and/or moral superiority. Can't be good for you.

IneedAsockamnesty Wed 20-Mar-13 12:58:06

Every single real life true story type media thing is exploitive people watch it and read it that's why its still there.

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