To be horrified my four year old came home with nail polish ,make up and false lashes on ?

(123 Posts)
BahrainB Fri 08-Mar-13 16:29:09

Gob smacked that a four year olds birthday party warrants a beautician who applied party lashes , full ( we are talking strictly style) make-up and painted the nails of all the tiny dots that attended. This was our first "drop off " party ever and I am just so horrified . What I would have done if I had actually been there , I don't know. Moreover , I am too shocked to say anything . Thank goodness she is heading to the bath before her daddy gets in on a late flight.

InNeedOfBrandy Fri 08-Mar-13 16:30:25

I actually think aw how sweet. But then my dd and ds have always had makeup and nail varnish to play with.

snuffaluffagus Fri 08-Mar-13 16:30:48

That's a very odd party four year olds I have to say!

Pootles2010 Fri 08-Mar-13 16:31:41

Its a bit vile imo, but nowt you can do now. Didn't they tell you in advance? I'd have thought there might have been allergy issues for some children potentially?

Playing with make up - fine. Beautician at a 4 yo party - yuk. YANBU.

squeakytoy Fri 08-Mar-13 16:32:36

Cant really see the harm in it.. not as if they came home with a pierced nose and a tattoo..

kinkyfuckery Fri 08-Mar-13 16:33:52

Nail varnish I wouldn't have a problem with. Putting something near my kids eyes, yeah I'd no be best impressed.

ENormaSnob Fri 08-Mar-13 16:33:56

Yanbu

I am pretty chilled with dd having nail varnish on and her hair done etc but this seems ott.

Was it not mentioned prior to the party?

noblegiraffe Fri 08-Mar-13 16:34:09

Was the party at Katie Price's house?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Fri 08-Mar-13 16:35:08

I wouldn't like it - when I was wee I had very sensitive skin and couldn't wear face paint etc

I would also be concerned at someone messing around so close to the eyes of my four year old

IslaValargeone Fri 08-Mar-13 16:35:31

OOh, I would not have liked that either.
Beautician for 4 year olds fgs hmm

Maebe Fri 08-Mar-13 16:35:48

Hmm... 4 does seem a little young for that. I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with a 4yo having a little bit of make up applied, or nail polish put on, as a treat/game BUT as the mum of a little girl I would definitely have wanted to know about it first. That would be my biggest issue. I probably would have been just as shocked as you if DD returned home done up to the nine.

I think in one way you can make having some child-friendly make up applied can be dressed up as a 'game', similar to having their face painted, and while it wouldn't be the party I would chose for my DD, I wouldn't have a big issue with her attending one, as I would chat to her first about it being 'dressing up' and something kids don't do other than at special parties like this. Party lashes is probably a step too far for me, though. And I imagine most young kids would like their nails painted if they see mummy doing it, though I'd probably restrict that to toenails.

The thing that would really anger me is that you weren't asked if it was ok and there's a high chance there could be allergy or skin issues related to this. A 4yo is probably never had make up, eyelash glue etc applied before, they could easily have a reaction, and especially if the mum holding the party hasn't asked any of the parents first if their kids have any skin conditions.

NC78 Fri 08-Mar-13 16:37:02

Nail varnish is ok, but make up and false lashes on a four year old?! Yuk!

quoteunquote Fri 08-Mar-13 16:37:08

Grim.

insanityscratching Fri 08-Mar-13 16:40:25

Not good IMO. Dd has multiple allergies I would have been really angry if I had left her at a party and someone put anything on her face. She isn't allowed face paint and I'd mention that I wouldn't expect make up though so wouldn't mention it. Her face would be raw and weeping by the time I got there.

ElkiesBrook Fri 08-Mar-13 16:41:43

to quote quote

yeah, grim

beyond grim actually, fucking grim

Softlysoftly Fri 08-Mar-13 16:42:08

I have to admit to considering letting dd and 1 friend go to this Princess day thing at my gym for v her 4th birthday when it comes blush they get nails and hair done, dressed up and have a Dolly tea party, I'm not girlie at all But she seems to live that stuff. It doesn't worry me, it's definitely more playing than an expectation of looks and I stand as her hairy legged make up free role model grin.

I therefore think yabu to be horrified by mail varnish etc but even I think false eyelashes and not discussing with parents first is very off.

MammyKaz Fri 08-Mar-13 16:42:36

This makes me very sad. I love dressing up & role play but in a range of outfits & fun face paint or whatever but make-up No. What message is this giving a 4yr old? The ideal is you should look pretty & to do that you need all this crap on your face!! Is it any wonder kids are growing up too soon, they are not dolls & all this has an affect. Were there no boys there??

lljkk Fri 08-Mar-13 16:42:51

I would see it as cheesy but harmless.

NotSoNervous Fri 08-Mar-13 16:43:50

Nail varnish not so bad but eyelashes?? I'd hit the roof

False eyelashes? How did she get them on the kids at all?

Cakecrumbsinmybra Fri 08-Mar-13 16:48:16

YANBU, I would be pretty shocked too OP.

OutragedFromLeeds Fri 08-Mar-13 16:54:37

I think it's grim and awful, but I don't really know why I think that. It all washes off and they're only playing I suppose, it just gives me the heebie jeebies.

Someone bought DC1 make-up for her 8th birthday and it made me feel a bit sick, I think mainly because she isn't at all in to that sort of thing and it was the assumption that it was a good gift for an 8 year old girl.

AThingInYourLife Fri 08-Mar-13 17:00:34

Ick

Our poor girls.

wonderingsoul Fri 08-Mar-13 17:00:44

for a four year old id be a bit hmmm about the make up and nail varnish but would go balitic over the ele lash's. who do they think they are not even telling you about it first so you can say no.

imo at four this is done more for the parents.. i c ould see a 9 year plus girly girl wanting and asking for this though.

changeforthebetter Fri 08-Mar-13 17:01:23

yuk! I will put a bit of varnish on kids' nails during holidays. it is inexpertly applied as I rarely wear any. the rest - no way. sadly some people do think four year olds need to be made up - dodgy sad

orangina Fri 08-Mar-13 17:03:05

Totally bloody grim.

Anyone remember the MN campaign "Let girls be girls"...... This is what it is all about.

(Hoiks bosom)

LegoAcupuncture Fri 08-Mar-13 17:03:15

The only thing that would really bother me is the false lashes. My DC loved having nail polish on when they were this age and a little bit of lip gloom/lipstick.

Just how much make up was on her?

orangina Fri 08-Mar-13 17:03:51

And it is NOT the same as drawing a butterfly on a little girls face w facepaint....

teatrolley Fri 08-Mar-13 17:06:38

Well I suppose it makes it easier to pick who you're happy for her to have play dates with.

OutragedFromLeeds Fri 08-Mar-13 17:07:16

grin @ lip gloom

MoominmammasHandbag Fri 08-Mar-13 17:10:14

YANBU I once dropped then 6 year old DD off at a friend's house for tea prior to going to the school disco. Picked her up from the school disco only to find she had been given the full make up treatment by her friend's Mum. Mortified does not begin to describe how I felt. I think it was worse because I felt other people would think it was my idea.

akaemmafrost Fri 08-Mar-13 17:10:19

"shocked"

"Horrified"

"Thank goodness she is heading to the bath before her daddy gets in on a late flight?"

Why? What would the Man Of The House have to say about this outrageous event?

Sorry this has made me grin.

No its not ideal but its not a massive great big deal either. I painted dd to look like a cat today, I don't think this is dissimilar. At this age its just dressing up. Plenty of time to make sure she knows the implications as she gets older.

Out of interest what WOULD you have done at the party, if you had been there?

ponyandpotatopie Fri 08-Mar-13 17:12:31

I don't think it's a big deal either.

akaemmafrost Fri 08-Mar-13 17:14:24

I think I would have laughed when I saw her.

anonymosity Fri 08-Mar-13 17:17:02

I'm surprised the kids at 4 weren't completely bored by that and it does seem a little young. But I wouldn't be horrified, I'd only be truly horrified if my 5 yr old DD came home with a real tattoo or nose piercing or similar.

seriouscakeeater Fri 08-Mar-13 17:17:06

I wouldnt have like it either and neither would DH would have been annoyed too.
Wouldnt like the fact that my 4 yr dc was having glue stuck near her little eyes.

ZZZenAgain Fri 08-Mar-13 17:18:05

I wouldn't have liked the make-up and nailpolish but I would haveremoved it and not mentoned it. However, glueing on false eyelashes I would be really annoyed about.

if this is real...I would lose it on the parents. anyone gluing anything to my child's face would be in for a world of hurt

silverfrog Fri 08-Mar-13 17:20:51

I'm with you, OP. I would be horrified too.

dd2 still hasn't had the present that was given to us for her when she was 3 which was make up and all that shit. who on earth thinks that is a good present to give a small child? it baffles me.

why on earth anyone would be ok with it - why start indoctrinating small children into the whole beauty regime thing? jesus, why can't we just let small children be just that, not slather them in full make up and make them into mini-adults.

thezebrawearspurple Fri 08-Mar-13 17:21:53

I think it's sweet, little kids love dressing up but they should have warned the other parents beforehand in case of allergy issues. I suppose some people will have a moral opposition to it, which is fine, there are also parents who don't like their kids playing with toy weapons etc... you can't really know what others are going to be horrified by.

HildaOgden Fri 08-Mar-13 17:23:42

Hope none of them had conjunctivitis,or else they all will.

Ridiculous of the beautician to do it ( and of the party parent who didn't check with other parents first),where I am adults have to be 'patch tested' for allergies the first time they use eyelash dye,I wouldn't imagine eyelash glue is much less allergenic.

Clary Fri 08-Mar-13 17:24:23

It's truly icky IMO.

LOL @ people saying they'd only be horrified if a 5yo came home with a real tattoo!!! Errrr well yes I would think that would be a bit horrifying!

I had a friend whose DD had very pretty blonde curls when she was this sort of age. People used to ask her if they were natural! Noooo, I bleach and curl my pre-schooler's hair. hmm

Floggingmolly Fri 08-Mar-13 17:25:16

I don't believe the lashes were glued on, the beautician would surely have known better than that. And the makeup is just another version of face painting which is all the rage a 4 year old's parties. If she'd have come home as a butterfly would you have been so outraged?
It wouldn't have bothered me.

silverfrog Fri 08-Mar-13 17:27:04

face painting is in the realm of dress-up. no child is going to grow up aspiring to be a witch, or a butterfly, or spiderman, becuase they had a bit of colour put on their face.

a young girl, being pampered, and encouraged to preen, and being made to look 'beautiful' is highly likely to grow up to believe that the world revolves aorund looks. and that is a shit message.

thebody Fri 08-Mar-13 17:27:56

No I wouldn't like it either. Little kids painting their nails and playing with makeup is ok but for an adult to glue on false eyelashes is pretty strange.

It's not pretty face painting its the creeping in of the American patgent queen culture and its not nice or healthy for girls IMO.

4 is way too young.

Whipps Fri 08-Mar-13 17:29:12

Ugh, ugh, ugh. YANBU.

silverfrog Fri 08-Mar-13 17:29:31

I don't want my daughters growing up thinking they have to use make up (in increasing quantities if what I see on teens these days is anything to go by) to look 'better' than they do.

they are fabulous, and wonderful the way they are. they do not need to start thinking they need a lifetime of beauty products and make up - and especially not from the age of 4, fgs!

Floggingmolly Fri 08-Mar-13 17:30:23

It washes off hmm. The op doesn't have to leave it on and take her dd clubbing...
She'll have forgotten all about it by next week.

WoTmania Fri 08-Mar-13 17:30:42

YANBU - nail varnish I could cope with, playing with make up (think garish colour everywhere) fine but 'proper' make-uo and eyelashies. Nope. Not going there. I'm not teaching my daughter that there is a certain appearance she must adhere to. Particularly not at the age of 4.

Teeb Fri 08-Mar-13 17:31:05

I can't believe the mother didn't tell any of the parents she was planning it, or that it was the 'theme' of the party, at least to give parents the opportunity to mention allergies.

Really bad form on mums part.

eavesdropping Fri 08-Mar-13 17:31:12

I would be fucking furious.

ZZZenAgain Fri 08-Mar-13 17:31:44

nailpolish doesn't wash off

skratta Fri 08-Mar-13 17:33:29

Ugh. YADNBU.

Rowlers Fri 08-Mar-13 17:34:27

What akaemmafrost said.
What exactly would dh have done / said had he seen her?
And why is that an issue?

thezebrawearspurple Fri 08-Mar-13 17:35:27

Putting makeup on a kid at a dress up party isn't going to turn them into a vain, looks obsessed Paris Hilton wannabe anymore than letting them play with toy swords at a pirate themed party is going to turn them into a violent thug, it's just playing.

PetiteRaleuse Fri 08-Mar-13 17:36:28

I might be a little annoyed, but I doubt it. I certainly wouldn't be horrified, or furious, or shocked, or disgusted and I wouldn't worry about Daddy's reaction..

YABU, she probably had a great time, no harm done. And I say that as someone who hates wearing make up.

However the person running the party WBU not to let other parents know in case of allergy risks / sensitive skin?

ToomuchWaternotWine Fri 08-Mar-13 17:36:38

I agree, beyond grim.

Lovely irony on International Women's Day too, yep great lesson to teach our 4 year olds. Why would anyone need or want to do this to those perfect peachy little faces? And no I don't think it's on the same level as dressing up or face painting, this is beauty pageant crap and it's yucky.

ZZZenAgain Fri 08-Mar-13 17:37:25

my ex is a concert pianist from Russia, both his parents are professors of music (violin and piano in Russia), his sister is a concert pianist and lives in Vienna where she teaches and her dh is a prof of piano and so on. (Just saying, this is how I can say what I did below). It is what they told me. They all advised me not to start piano before the age of 7 and my dd's grandad would not teach violin to 3 and 4 year olds and he has taught some people who have gone on to become very good. I don't know much about music but these people do and this is what they told me.

ZZZenAgain Fri 08-Mar-13 17:37:44

sorry wrong thread

akaemmafrost Fri 08-Mar-13 17:38:05

Where IS the OP?

EnjoyResponsibly Fri 08-Mar-13 17:38:50

You're horrified, yet you're not going to say anything?

Is it comfy on that fence OP?

It sounds fairly harmless, if a bit thoughtless of the child's mother. I can see your point on the false eyelash part particularly. But if its bothering you to the point of being horrified I'm confused as to why you wouldn't discuss it.

IslaValargeone Fri 08-Mar-13 17:39:41

Yes indeed and I bet they didn't get where they are today by wearing false eyelashes and lippy.

ZZZenAgain Fri 08-Mar-13 17:41:30

I can understand why she wouldn't bring it up with the mother, you have to try and get on with the parents of your dc's friends for the sake of the friendships. We all let things pass for the sake of keeping the peace

Growlithe Fri 08-Mar-13 17:42:00

I don't mind DD2 (4) having a bit of nail polish. They do it at her school disco and the children are very inventive about what colours they have on each nail - you can tell they've learned 'repeating patterns' in class. grin

DD2 went to a few of these pamper parties when she was in Y2. I wasn't thrilled but let her go because her friends were going and she enjoyed them. That said, they only did nails, hair up and some sparkle on their faces. We always got a flyer with the invite to sign for allergies.

If it was a real beautician, I'm guessing either she has branched out into children's parties as an extra earner, without thinking it through, or the birthday girl's mum has made a bit of an error in judgement in booking an adult service for children.

Whatever, I'd be livid if either of mine came home with false eyelashes.

That said, possibly not the best message to give the child in saying you are glad it will be washed off by the time daddy gets home. That didn't sit right with me.

EnjoyResponsibly Fri 08-Mar-13 17:47:11

I'm with you Zen, but I'd be prepared to bet my Friday night wine that the "horror" is discussed with all the other party girls mums wink

LegoAcupuncture Fri 08-Mar-13 17:47:57

blush @ lip gloom. Obviously I meant lip gloss.

Should have added hat all my DC are boys and they've all at one point wanted to wear nail polish/lip stuff and I've always obliged. Draw the line at mascara though as think its very unecessary for little children to wear it.

YellowAndGreenAndRedAndBlue Fri 08-Mar-13 17:55:33

It says something about the party organisers that they could think of nothing more interesting for kids to do than play beauty parlours. Dullsville. And a dubious message too.

Growlithe Fri 08-Mar-13 18:07:09

Another thought on these parties though. One party is quickly forgotten. Mum putting her face on every morning is more likely to be the thing the girl remembers, and copies as she gets older. So if you wear makeup yourself you may want to pull those judgypants back down.

DonderandBlitzen Fri 08-Mar-13 18:14:39

I think it must have been a very boring party for 4 year olds and it is grim.

I would hate this for age 9-13 as they are starting to become aware, hitting puberty, will start to think that they have to do this to be attractive. In fact I didn't let dd wear make up at that age.

At 4 it's just dressing up. Watching the pretty dancing on 'Strictly' and floofing about like a princess in a fairy story.

It's different IMO.

fuzzysnout Fri 08-Mar-13 18:16:59

Sexualisation of 4 year olds. What message are we giving our little girls about their looks and the behaviour expected of them if they want to be 'pretty/acceptable to others'?

crunchbag Fri 08-Mar-13 18:17:11

Did DD enjoy the party? If so I can't really see a problem, maybe just a bit thoughtless of the parents not to mention it beforehand. It's a one off, nothing permanent.

bangwhizz Fri 08-Mar-13 18:19:14

Did your DD enjoy it, that's all that matters.Please stop being so precious, life is too short to get worked up over every trivial thing.

DesperatelySeekingSedatives Fri 08-Mar-13 18:23:35

I've been known to paint my 5 year old DD's nails since she was a fair bit younger but I'd be very pissed off with the idea of any other make up especially eye make up! The false lashes would make me livid if I'm honest.

So Yanbu

Floggingmolly Fri 08-Mar-13 18:24:02

Ffs, Fuzzy I bet the only thoughts in the little girl's heads were how pretty they looked, I doubt the message that they must look like this if they want to be acceptable to others got through hmm

threesypeesy Fri 08-Mar-13 18:27:06

really dont see the harm in it most little girls love girly things and it was a party its not as if shes been out and about dressed lile this.... harmless fun imo

ElkiesBrook Fri 08-Mar-13 18:32:36

this 'harmless' fun is teaching very young children girls that to look good they have to change their appearances

joins emmafrost in looking for OP

hmm

YellowAndGreenAndRedAndBlue Fri 08-Mar-13 18:35:05

Oh how depressing that they should think they look pretty in false eyelashes, surely at 4 they are just allowed to not look any way at all? Why do they even have to think about looking 'pretty' full stop?

Of yes, such fun dressing up and looking pretty, thrilling stuff.

Cherriesarelovely Fri 08-Mar-13 18:39:24

Ugh, I think that is really gross. One of my cousins did this for her kids and put photos on fbook of them (aged from 4-6) in full makeup. I thought it was odd and grotesque. Mind you even they didn't have false eyelashes! That is nuts.

LadyBeagleEyes Fri 08-Mar-13 18:40:45

I don't get the shock and horrified either.
It's little girls dressing up and putting on make up.
I like to dress up and put on make up too.
One of my ds's teen female friends used to make up her 5 year old brother with her mates, and do his hair.
He loved the attention.
I'm a bit hmm about the false eyelashes though, surely no responsible beautician would be allowed to use these sort of products on a child's eyes.

ZZZenAgain Fri 08-Mar-13 18:41:53

they use them on those little girls in beauty pageants though , don't they? As well as spray on tan, bleached hair etc

DesiderataHollow Fri 08-Mar-13 18:45:15

I'm just a bit sad that it's seen as acceptable by so many to do this to a pre-schooler. Horrid.
If you want to paint your own child so she looks like an escapee from a beauty pageant that's your own choice. But to do it to other people's children without consulting the parents is wrong.

It's hard to see a heavily made-up child without thinking about JonBenét Ramsey. Just Yuk.

StuntGirl Fri 08-Mar-13 18:50:52

YANBU, its a bit weird. I would have had to say somethng to the other mum.

piprabbit Fri 08-Mar-13 18:54:35

It's a weird concept for a 4th birthday party.

But 'fess up - you're rather enjoying being a drama llama aren't you grin.

akaemmafrost Fri 08-Mar-13 18:56:00

Maybe Big Scary Daddy is home Sorting Out This Situation so the OP can't post again?

what a load of boo hockey

Viviennemary Fri 08-Mar-13 18:56:28

I think live and let live with the nail varnish. But I'm shocked with the false eyelashes. I wouldn't have even thought a trained beautician would have applied these to a four year old child. Not on.

ZZZenAgain Fri 08-Mar-13 19:02:14

are we right about the false eyelashes? Just checked the OP and she says the beautician "applied party lashes , full ( we are talking strictly style) make-up and painted the nails".

Are party lashes false eyelashes or something else?

HoldMeCloserTonyDanza Fri 08-Mar-13 19:03:32

I think being horrified is a bit Helen Lovejoy.

It's super tacky and cringey but if this happened to my DD she would bloody love it and I would just wash it off as quickly as possible.

Lucyellensmum95 Fri 08-Mar-13 19:06:40

yucktastic, i dont like make up on children at all - a bit of nail varnish ok, sweet

But in the scheme of things - no harm done.

It a sensitive debate i suppose - some may see it as sexualisation of youngsters and i can see that, but more in older children, not in tots. In LOs its more about trying to be like mummy. If mummy wears lots of make up i supppse the little girls will try to emulate. I dont wear make up but my DD still refers to her lip balm as lippy and likes to wear as lipstick hmm shes seven, it HAD to have come from school.

Remotecontrolduck Fri 08-Mar-13 19:22:12

Nail varnish, maybe a bit of glitter on the face or something, but the eyelashes sound vile, and the glue near the eye sounds a bit dangerous for a 4 year old!

I am VERY relaxed about playing with make up, but false eyelashes are a step too far even for me!

Szeli Fri 08-Mar-13 20:35:53

As a makeup artist I think it's obscene; I refuse full makeup on under 10s even when asked by parents as it's not just that the makeup I use in a professional capacity isn't tested for children, the brush cleaners used between clients are made up of harsh chemicals that again I wouldn't put near a child's face.

Parents applying small amounts at their own risk and 'childrens' makeup is one thing, I'd question a so called professional willing to apply anything to an under 16 without parental consent.

As for the eyelashes; a skin test should have been performed 24hrs prior and full aftercare information - something I imagine didn't happen with a 4 year old...?! Tbh I'd be questioning it further, were you given the appropriate removers etc for them? Adult clients struggle under the weight of their first set of party lashes, I have no idea how a 4 year old would cope, it's actually so wrong!

Personally and professionally I don't see anything wrong with hair and nail polish but again only with parental consent.

The whole thing is bizarre and so wrong xx

Szeli Fri 08-Mar-13 20:47:45

Zen party lashes are the 'semi permanent' weekend lashes that are applied in clusters xx

Ugh

"face painting is in the realm of dress-up. no child is going to grow up aspiring to be a witch, or a butterfly, or spiderman, becuase they had a bit of colour put on their face."
Not sure, ds is adamant he wants to be a super hero when he grows up smile

ElkiesBrook Fri 08-Mar-13 21:11:13

emma grin

and a Good Job Too

this op seems so fake except so many posters seem to be totally ok with idea of it. I'm actually a bit shocked that there are people who who would not very upset about this if it were there daughter who had come home with fake eyelashes

ElkiesBrook Fri 08-Mar-13 21:13:15

the only thing i see as fake about this thread is the eyelashes

<lies>

Maebe Fri 08-Mar-13 21:14:57

Elkies grin

I'm getting very sad about the number of threads like this over the past few days. Is it the weather or something?

Unless the OP comes back...? <whistles innocently and looks around>

LadyBeagleEyes Fri 08-Mar-13 21:16:59

Yup, there's a fair few 'controversial' threads around tonight isn't there?

MrsDeVere Fri 08-Mar-13 21:20:44

The OP is straight out of the 'How to be contentious on MN' handbook

or perhaps the 'What to do if you have a tight deadline for a filler/fluff piece and no research budget for Dummies;

LadyBeagleEyes Fri 08-Mar-13 21:22:15

grin MrdDeVere, her and all the rest.

Is your child a boy or a girl?

PetiteRaleuse Fri 08-Mar-13 21:29:04

Wow I've been abroad for too long. Is it really that big a deal? Once? At age 4? I can't believe what a big deal is being made.

OP you're not a DM journo looking for shocked quotes about the increase in make up parties for little girls are you? If so, looks like you didn't misread your audience for once.

Maggie111 Fri 08-Mar-13 21:51:31

Yes that's grim! I could understand going to someone's house and playing with make-up at a young age... But a beautician?! Girls age 4 with fake eyelashes? Cor, I'd be horrified!

What bothers me is it's not girl's playing and exploring and looking silly, it's a professional saying "let's make you look more beautiful".... I think it's revolting.

I would not let my daughter go to another party - but I wouldn't kick up a fuss or anything.

PetiteRaleuse Fri 08-Mar-13 23:18:23

This thread would make an excellent tabloid feature three page spread with pictures of angry mums looking at their dolled up daughters in horror.

BahrainB Sat 09-Mar-13 03:29:58

We are in Dubai but the party was hosted by a British mum .The invitation stated pretty princess dress up party No mention of makeup and no skin test .
The lashes were only applied to the corners BUT the makeup was trowelled on. Foundation , powder, eyeliner ... the

lot. Hair was also "done".
A lot of posters say its no big deal but I hate the thought of little girls thinking you have to do all this to be beautiful at such a young age.

My DH is a pretty easy going guy but his faith calls for modesty .

LeoandBoosmum Sat 09-Mar-13 03:49:01

Well, I have to say that I would have gone positively ape shit! You are NOT being unreasonable.

Altinkum Sat 09-Mar-13 08:15:34

I don't get it it washes off, would you be aghast if your child came home with face paint on?

Most make up, and nail polish wouldn't bother me. Fake eyelashes would, as would mascara and eyeliner. 4 is far too young for that. DD would have rubbed at it and smeared crap right into her eyes.

shockers Sat 09-Mar-13 08:35:55

I don't think it's the same as face paint. Being painted as a Dalmation or a butterfly is a bit different to suggesting to a four year old that she is a prettier girl with long eyelashes and pink lips.

Ilovexmastime Sat 09-Mar-13 08:37:10

YANBU. I think there's a difference between girls mucking about with make up at home and it being applied by an expert. In the first instance they are having fun applying it themselves and they normally end up looking more clown like than 'beautiful', whereas in the second they are presumably sitting still, while sometimes is done to them to make them 'beautiful' and the fun bit is seeing how 'beautiful' they look when it's finished.
I'm happy with them mucking about at home for fun but I wouldn't be happy to hear that someone else was applying it professionally, especially not at that age.

SomethingOnce Sat 09-Mar-13 09:28:23

Ugh, ugh, ugh! What is wrong with people?!

[weeps for the future]

Szeli Sat 09-Mar-13 09:38:59

* party lashes won't wash off, they need removing; take it the laws are different in Dubai then regarding treatments on minors? xx

Twattybollocks Sat 09-Mar-13 09:42:52

Sparkly blue eyeshadow, fine, bit of blusher, fine, clear lip gloss fine, even pastel mail varnish fine. Foundation and false lashes definately not fine. Dd loves having her hair curled but that's as far as it goes.

Pozzled Sat 09-Mar-13 10:01:33

Ugh, I'd be annoyed and actually quite upset if this happened with my 4 year old.

I think it's very different from face paint, which is usually an imaginary character e.g spiderman/fairy or an animal. Face paint is seen as a childhood thing, but make up is an adult thing. It's encouraging children to look like adults, and it is setting the example that looking 'pretty' is a good thing. It's the same message that girls see from a hundred different sources, but starting even earlier.

I'd also be concerned about the physical side: when my daughter has had face paint on, the artist had always kept the eye area clear so it's easy to remove without getting in her eyes. I wouldn't be confident about removing full make up from a cold without getting it in her eyes, and I honestly wouldn't have the first clue about removing the eye lashes.

BahrainB Sat 09-Mar-13 10:43:39

It took tweezers and a little painful pulling to remove the lashes and the war paint took a fair scrubbing.

stargirl1701 Sat 09-Mar-13 10:58:52

If this is true, it is very depressing. They are 4, not 14. My DD is 6 months old - how do I avoid all this pink, princess, beauty queen shit?

BahrainB Sat 09-Mar-13 17:01:52

It is sadly true sad stargirl1701. I get your concerns .I try to keep things really unisex in our family as I grew up with brothers and didn't get to the girlie stuff at all till uni pretty much.

There was probably always a OTT crowd like the host who think it cute to put makeup on a child and that they LOVE it
Sadly it seems it is becoming more acceptable.
.. My DD didn't love it at all .

I'd have been appalled at this if it was my DD at any age.

When we did a 'spa night' at Brownies, we sought written permission from parents for nail polish, hand cream and face masks as we wanted parents to be happy and to check for any allergy issues.

valiumredhead Sat 09-Mar-13 17:34:17

The only thing I wouldn't have liked is the false eyelashes, other than that it's just dressing up and my ds used to wear lippy and nail varnish so I can't really get worked up about it tbh.

squeakytoy Sat 09-Mar-13 17:35:20

I really do not believe that it took tweezers or was painful for the lashes to come off. I have worn them for years (including as a child when I was in costume for shows), and false lashes just peel off very very easily.

valiumredhead Sat 09-Mar-13 17:40:33

They do squeaky

Szeli Sat 09-Mar-13 18:40:11

False lashes do, party lashes do not x

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