to think I shouldn't even bother applying for this job as I'm overweight?

(67 Posts)
UnderSkyofStars Tue 05-Mar-13 23:42:28

I do weight a lot for my height but people are genuinely shocked when I tell them my weight so I don't think I look my weight (12 stone) - and wear sizes 12/10.

A job has just arisen near me, part-time in a store which sells clothes for running, yoga, tennis etc - they even have exercises classes in the store during the evening. (You can attend for free if you work there too)

I do have sales experiences but I just think even if I did mange to get an interview I'm hardly a size 6/8 which they would probably prefer so my experience is pretty irrelevant.

aldiwhore Tue 05-Mar-13 23:45:45

YABU not to try, the best dietician I ever had also struggled to be a 6 (she struggled to maintain a 16, but gave great advice AND had masses of empathy).

My gym instructor was a size 14, but she was solid and she was all about health rather than dress size, but real and liked a pint.

I would rather be served by someone who knows what they're talking about but isn't the image of perfection (it would put me off) than someone who IS the image of perfection but doesn't have a clue about anything I need to know about.

That begs the question, could you do the job?

WorraLiberty Tue 05-Mar-13 23:46:35

Just apply, they can only say no.

And if they do say no, it could be for a whole host of reasons...none of which have anything to do with your weight.

out of interest, are you tall?

StuntGirl Tue 05-Mar-13 23:46:51

A 12 is hardly ginormous. The lack of confidence would be more likely to cost you the job if you got to interview.

Put it this way, if you don't apply you definitely won't get it. What's the harm in applying?

BestestBrownies Tue 05-Mar-13 23:48:31

What does your (perfectly normal and healthy sounding) size/weight have to do with it? Surely they want someone fit and healthy-looking representing their brand?

If you like the sound of the job then just go for it.

UnderSkyofStars Tue 05-Mar-13 23:49:07

I'm not sure of my exact height ... probably 5 foot 6. My BMI states I'm overweight.

I think I'm just getting to the point where I'm so fed up of hearing - sorry you weren't successful this time. Gets you down sad

mumeeee Tue 05-Mar-13 23:50:44

You say tou wear size 10[12 which is average. So YANU mot to apply for the job vecause you think you are overweight,.

mumeeee Tue 05-Mar-13 23:51:11

Sory I should have said YABU

Do it, if you have the experience they need you have as much chance as anyone of getting it.

WorraLiberty Tue 05-Mar-13 23:52:52

I can understand it gets you down...of course it does.

But you have to remember that if for example 15 people went for the same job and they were all size 8/10.

Still only one of them would get the job wouldn't they?

Therefore, don't blame your weight for the lack of jobs available at this time in the UK...there are many reasons why people are unsuccessful in interviews and sometimes it's simply because there were tons of suitable applicants and only one position available.

nancy75 Tue 05-Mar-13 23:57:19

Apply, listen I am a right lard arse, much bigger than you, I used to be the manager of a very trendy shop where every member of staff had a waist thinner than my leg! Customers don't care what you look like, they just want you to be helpful and know what you are doing.

WorraLiberty Wed 06-Mar-13 00:02:35

And actually, since when has every person who takes up sport as a hobby been a size 6/8 anyway?

When I go to a shop I just want to pay and get out of there.

If I need advice about the products, I ask questions and expect answers.

At no time has the assistant's weight, sex, age or anything else changed that.

StuntGirl Wed 06-Mar-13 00:10:18

I'll be honest though, I do know where you're coming from. I've applied for fashion retail jobs and thought "No way will they hire a tubby arse like me". Especially brands who don't even go up to my size, as often staff must wear the companies clothing at work. But I've applied anyway. It's not like they know what I look like from my CV!

I wouldn't personally, am also on the rotund side. I'd probably feel uncomfortable even if I got hired tbh

oh you're a size 10? missed that bit... since when is that heavy shock

MarcelineTheVampireQueen Wed 06-Mar-13 00:31:40

Jesus god be with the days I was your size, I would give my left tit to be your size again...get a bit if confidence in you missy, you are a slim healthy weight. Send your cv!

WorraLiberty Wed 06-Mar-13 00:38:05

My friend is 5ft 6" and around the same weight as the OP but she is a size 14/16.

But she is a very confident woman and I know for a fact she wouldn't think twice at going for this job if it was what she wanted.

Therefore I don't think weight is an issue...more lack of confidence I think.

UnderSkyofStars Wed 06-Mar-13 00:56:01

Therefore, don't blame your weight for the lack of jobs available at this time in the UK

confused I'm not.

I don't think or one second that I didn't get the other jobs I applied for because of my weight,

I'm saying that this store very much promotes a healthy and active lifestyle and being overweight doesn't really promote that.

WorraLiberty Wed 06-Mar-13 01:02:59

Yes but you're still blaming your weight for not wanting to apply for the job are you not?

Just apply and if you don't get the job, you don't get the job.

But the reason you might not get it, shouldn't necessarily be blamed on your weight...but on all the other reasons like high unemployment if that makes sense?

Eastpoint Wed 06-Mar-13 06:29:08

We have a branch of a very similar sounding shop v close to us & their assistants are all different sizes. I don't think they worry about the sizes of their staff, in fact they probably sell more clothes as people won't feel they have to look a certain way to shop there.

Do you have retail experience & are you passionate about well-being? Those are the important things. Good luck.

Glittertwins Wed 06-Mar-13 06:33:48

I would love to be that weight being the same height as you. I might be a bit overweight (I know how much I have put back on) but I am also very fit, probably more so than average. Go for it!

Snog Wed 06-Mar-13 06:37:42

Are you in the US?
I would expect that for this height and weight you would be a size 14 or 16 not a 10 to 12?
Do you exercise regularly?

Apply! What's the worst that could happen?
Size 10/12 is healthy and maybe they'd rather have someone who looks like they have the energy and enthusiasm to exercise than a scrawny person who looks worn out and doesn't look like they have the energy work out. It's more about your 'energy' than your size.

Pagwatch Wed 06-Mar-13 07:01:52

I was wondering if you are in the US too.

I am 5ft 5 and weigh around 9 1/2 stone. I am around a size 10/12.

Anyway. I think your OP is about giving up. I think you are questioning why you keep getting knocked back and that is sad and hard, really hard to fight.
But I think to make assumptions about why they might reject you as a reason not to apply is unreasonable. At my gym the staff are a mix of sizes because they want to attract a range of people and just having very slim staff would be intimidating.
They will be way more interested in your enthusiasm and your ability to connect with their clients which, if you are seeing the business as unwelcoming, you are hardly likely to do.
Why don't you go along and take a class. Two birds with one stone.

LadyPessaryPam Wed 06-Mar-13 07:43:35

The OP is quoting US sizes I think, UK 10/12 = US 14/16 ish.

Tell them you've recently lost two stone. They'll love you as a living example of what a healthy lifestyle can do for you!

Seriously, you'll be fine. Clients don't want to be served by perfect people. I remember being served by an absolutely stunning waitress once. It put me right off my meal smile

ThreeWheelsGood Wed 06-Mar-13 08:11:27

Not necessarily ladyp - I'm 5'5" size 10/12 UK and 12 stone, very overweight according to bmi.
YABU OP - apply for the job if you think you have the skills and experience!

HollaAtMeBaby Wed 06-Mar-13 08:13:48

YABU not to try. Is it Sweaty Betty? Are you interested in health and fitness/do you go to the gym and play any sports regularly? I think that's more important than your figure especially as you sound normal sized. If you were too fat to get into the shop's clothes that might be a different matter - when I clicked on this thread I was thinking of the enormously obese woman who was on This Morning last week with the appalling Katie Hopkins.

Pagwatch Wed 06-Mar-13 08:16:16

Sizing is fucking weird isn't it?

Two people on this thread are the same height and clothes size as me yet a stone and a half heavier.
When i was 12 stone I was a big 14.

It just shows that I am right to head in the changing rooms with at least two sizes in the item I like. And vanity sizing means in M&S, monsoon and next I am often finding a 10 way too big.

They should rip the system up and start again tbh. It's becoming meaningless.

Pagwatch Wed 06-Mar-13 08:27:54

Sorry. Massively off topic.

TheFallenNinja Wed 06-Mar-13 09:21:36

Why not? What's to lose?

TroublesomeEx Wed 06-Mar-13 09:32:43

I'd apply.

10/12 is my size and whilst it's not svelte, I'm not exactly rolling down the road. Tbh, I'd be more likely to go into a sportswear shop and ask advice from someone who was my size rather than only someone who was a 6/8.

The store might find it attracts a wider range of customer if it doesn't alienate it's less fit/larger potential customers by only have super slim/fit people on the shop floor.

In fact, I'd say you could use it as a selling point.

And Pag I completely agree. I'm 10 stone, 5'4 and a size 10/12/14/16 depending on where I shop! It is becoming meaningless. I've found a couple of online stores where they tell you the measurements of the clothes and suggest you compare the measurements to clothes you already have and select your size that way. It would be so much better if they were consistent.

Bunfags Wed 06-Mar-13 09:41:21

Why would you have to be a size 6 to 8 OP? Size 6 is very thin and not natural for everyone. Size 10/12 is slim. YABU to think that you shouldn't go for it.

It's funny isn't it, I'm a 10/12, 5'7 but I'm just under 10 stone.

Some people just seem to be built more solidly, ds1 is like that... Even as a baby he always felt far heavier than he looked. He's a bean pole now but I can barely lift him he's so heavy.

Op, go for it. The worst they can say is no and if they do say no it won't be anything to do with weight.

ChoccyWoccyDoDa Wed 06-Mar-13 10:50:38

I would apply. It sounds like your size is quite normal so I don't see why it should stop you getting the job.

From a customer's perspective, I really couldn't care less what size the sales assistants are. It's hardly the same as say in a hair salon where you would expect the hairdressers to have decent hair styles!

Just go for it and good luck.

alifelessordinary Wed 06-Mar-13 11:02:53

Well it's good to hear I'm slim, because my BMI tells me I'm overweight!!

I'm the same size as the OP - 5'6 about 11 1/2 stone, fit into a 12/14.

Personally I understand where you're coming from OP, I would have a hard time applying for this job and not going to work everyday feeling like a beached whale. sad But if you've got the confidence, go for it.

fascicle Wed 06-Mar-13 11:23:37

It they're a decent company, they will be looking for things like enthusiasm for/knowledge of the products they sell and the market they're in; friendly manner, good at dealing with the public; numeracy skills etc. Don't write yourself off before you've even applied, and don't assume they have a policy about the size of their employees.

YABU, one of the instructors at our gym was a wobbly size 12ish, but brilliant at her job with bags of energy.

UnderSkyofStars Wed 06-Mar-13 14:49:54

No I am very much British and very much quoting British sizes.

I did state in the OP that people are genuinely shocked when they know how much I weigh.

It's not a vanity thing where I'm squeezing myself into small sizes.

Today I am wearing size 12 jeans with no muffin top and a size 10 fitted jumper.

bangwhizz Wed 06-Mar-13 14:54:31

My daughter has a gymnastics coach who must be well well over a size 20 .She is excellent!

badguider Wed 06-Mar-13 14:56:16

I am also heavier than I look but as the shop isn't going to ask you your weight or your BMI then why is it an issue?

If you don't look overweight then they won't even know you are.

The big issue I think is are you fit and healthy? do you have a demonstrable interest in running, tennis, yoga etc. as well as the retail experience? I am chunky but would apply for the job citing the half marathons i've run and the cycle club i'm a member of and yoga studio...

GreatUncleEddie Wed 06-Mar-13 14:59:57

You should apply. Weight could be an issue but it doesn't sound like you are so overweight as to make it relevant. Overweight people can be very fit.

DeepPurple Wed 06-Mar-13 15:02:43

You should apply. May be less people will apply cos they think they are overweight too!

I once saw a gym instructor eating a creme egg whilst on the cross trainer hmm that doesn't scream health! grin

You're presumably not going to put your weight on your CV, and you say that you don't look as though you weigh as much as you do, so I can't see why it would be a reason to reject you even if they were so inclined.

LadyPessaryPam Wed 06-Mar-13 15:09:42

Have you got humungous ankles or something OP? Where is all the weight situated?? You sound normal size to me. I weigh far less, and the same height and I am 12 on the bottom and 14 on top!

UnderSkyofStars Wed 06-Mar-13 15:11:56

Have you got humungous ankles or something OP? Where is all the weight situated??

Bit rude.

I don't know where my humungous amount of weight is situated.

HoHoHoNoYouDont Wed 06-Mar-13 15:13:14

OP, I'm the same height and weight as you and work in a customer facing role. I am not 'fat'. Yes, my BMI score defines me as overweight but I feel fit and healthy. I eat well and workout etc. DO NOT let size put you off applying for any job. Anyone who turns you down on that basis is not worthy of working for in the first place imo.

Farewelltoarms Wed 06-Mar-13 15:27:29

Me too - 10 and a half stone, 5 foot 7, and a size 12. Not slim, not fat, normal. I'm wondering where I'd put an additional 20lb and fit into a smaller size...
Anyway I always like fact that nice and always helpful women in sweaty Betty are normal sized. I also always have massive girl crushes on models in catalogue. If I buy the blouson fluoro over vest, will I also get long swishy pony tail and habit of running along beaches?

think it was obvious what pessary was saying you seem to be ignoring all kind words and being arsey for sake of it.

anyway I thought you were a lawyer? hmm but times are tough eh?

LadyPessaryPam Wed 06-Mar-13 15:35:48

I was joking UnderSkyofStars.

UnderSkyofStars Wed 06-Mar-13 15:39:30

anyway I thought you were a lawyer?

Never said I was a lawyer. I said I worked in law which isn't the same thing.

And for various reasons I need to look for a new job which is only part time. I also can no longer do a demanding job.

I could list the reasons why and my whole life story but don't think it's that relevant.

UnderSkyofStars Wed 06-Mar-13 15:40:47

Anyway I always like fact that nice and always helpful women in sweaty Betty are normal sized.

I've never even heard of sweaty Betty so I can assure you that isn't the place I am applying to work for.

DeepPurple Wed 06-Mar-13 16:10:40

Why are people questioning the OP's weight and clothing size? confused when I was 11 stone and 5'4 I could wear a size 12 comfortably. Add a bit more weight and stretch and I'd be similar to the OP. clothing fits people differently and also depends on styles.

jjuice Wed 06-Mar-13 16:20:45

When I was 8 stone I was size 6 I am 5'5" my friend 5'2" was just under 8 stone and size 12
I am now over 11 stone and most of my clothes size 10
Heavy bones I always said but apparentlythats iimpossible

thezebrawearspurple Wed 06-Mar-13 16:23:45

You probably have a high muscle mass, muscle is three times heavier than fat and if it is also very tight everything is held 'in'. That's presumably a good thing for a job at a sportswear store??? You don't look as big as the number on the scales are so don't worry about it.

The worst thing they can say is no. Go for it!smile

nancy75 Wed 06-Mar-13 16:33:35

Op I'm going to be quite brutally honest here, as I mentioned earlier I worked as a retail manager for years, if your attitude in real life is anything like you are coming across on this thread then don't bother applying for the job. Replies have been mostly encouraging with a couple of obviously well meant jokes, your replies however have been really quite off, if you come across in interview like you do on here you won't get the job.

ThreeWheelsGood Wed 06-Mar-13 16:44:25

OP why have you ignored everyone replying saying you should go for it? And people like me reiterating that even though by bmi you're overweight, you probably don't look large and shouldn't let it put you off applying for this job anyway.

Snog Wed 06-Mar-13 17:18:07

OP do you have any interest in exercise and do you exercise regularly yourself?This question has been asked a lot but I can't see that you have replied to it? I think this is much more important than your current weight, surely?

If you want this job then go for it. Its a sales job so you just need to prove that you can selll yourself imo.

RedToothBrush Wed 06-Mar-13 17:26:04

Who are you selling to?

Do you think everyone who walks through the door is going to be thin? Or do you think there is going to be a bunch of people who are slightly bigger and simply want to get fitter.

If you are smart and its really bothering you and worrying you, should you happen to get an interview THEN MAKE IT INTO A SELLING POINT FOR YOU rather than viewing it something that is going to stop you getting the job.

This is 100% about your attitude and not your size. Afterall its a SALES job. If you can't sell yourself, you ain't going to sell their product are you?

Oblomov Wed 06-Mar-13 17:31:10

"The if your attitude in real life is anything like you are coming across on this thread then don't bother applying for the job. Replies have been mostly encouraging with a couple of obviously well meant jokes, your replies however have been really quite off".
Really? shock
I read it totally differently.
The ankles comment made me go shock, becasue I thought it was so rude i was really shocked.Infact all the , numerous, questioning posts about was she quoting US sizes and was she really a size 14...... etc etc etc, shall I contiinue. I thought were very very rude.
But you say it was all nice, and a few jokes that she misinterpreted?
Well, I didn't see it that way at all.
We must agree to differ. MAJOURLY.

nancy75 Wed 06-Mar-13 17:40:20

Oblomov there are plenty of other posts that are encouraging, the op has not replied to any of those, personally I thought the ankles post was obviously a joke. And I didn't say it was all nice I said mostly encouraging. All of the ops replies sound snotty, even the sweaty Betty comment ( for those that don't know sweaty Betty is the real name of a shop)

WorraLiberty Wed 06-Mar-13 17:45:34

I must admit the ankles comment made me smile.

But having read the OP's further comments, I have no idea what the problem is.

She's 5ft 6", size 10/12 and people are 'genuinely shocked' when they learn her weight.

So I'm just not getting the problem here? confused

DeepPurple Wed 06-Mar-13 17:46:16

I agree with oblomov. Some of the comments were just plain sneery. Some were more jokey but I can understand if the OP is offended.

Fillyjonk75 Wed 06-Mar-13 17:48:43

You aren't big at all OP. I've seen quite large people working in sports shops and even in gyms.

UnderSkyofStars Wed 06-Mar-13 18:02:05

Thanks to the people who could understand that I might take offensive to come of the comments.

I don't go out and buy size 10/12 to make myself feel better. I just buy clothes that fit.

I used to exercise quite a lot, but I have had to withdraw my gym membership (so now don't attend yoga/spinning classes) - I used to run ... and I should get back into that really.

Yfronts Wed 06-Mar-13 20:09:13

just apply. I would employ the right person and not consider size.

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