The bra Interventions continued....

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We filled a thread, so here's another!

CelticPromise Thu 28-Feb-13 22:36:46

Checking in. Back in the morning. Night!

QuickLookBusy Thu 28-Feb-13 22:38:48

Celtic thank you. I've decided to have a bra shopping day next Thusday. Really excited about trying new sizes.

SorrelForbes Thu 28-Feb-13 22:39:50

Thanks SC. Sterling work fellow bra fanatics enthusiasts.

SorrelForbes Thu 28-Feb-13 22:43:21

Oh, SC meant to say that my Hoola bikini arrived today. It's absolutely lovely. Great quality and beautiful colours. The pants are great. The 30G top is really well made and very flattering. The 30 back is a good fit, however, the centre gore doesn't lie quite flat (and that would bug me!) amd once I'd scooped there was some quadraboob/odd shape going on. DH said it looked fine (pre-scoop) so I'm going to exchange it for a 30GG.

Going to stick a post up here about measuring and recognizing a good bra. Thanks to Sorrel, HAzle, Celtic, marriednotdead and other contributors!

How to measure yourself:

Standing up - measure firmly under your bust in inches.
Then measure your overbust as shown in this diagram

Post the measurements for sizing help


Testing the band and cup
To test the band size, put the bra on back to front on the loosest hooks. If you can breathe but if feels tight and you can only fit two fingers underneath the wire at the front, then that's the correct back size for you. If it's so tight it's unbearable then go up a size.

The cup will differ much more between brands and styles than the back. Put the bra round the correct way and pop the shoulder straps up, lean forward then take your right hand and put it inside your left cup. Reach right round under your armpit/towards your back and scoop all the backfat/escapage forward in to the cup of the bra. This may require vigour!

Repeat on the other side.

Then put the shoulder straps up and adjust as necessary (not too tight as it's the back that should be doing most of the supporting work). If after scooping you find that you have some bulging over the cup and four-boobage going on, this means you need to go up one or more cup sizes. Keep going up through the cup sizes until all your breast tissue is firmly in place. Once you have put your bra straps up you may well need to repeat the scooping described above but with the straps in place. Breast tissue goes surprisingly far round under the arms which most people don't realise so often their wires are actually sitting on breast tissue.

A good fitting bra…
If your bra is a good fit after doing this it should:

•Be worn on the loosest hook (when new). If you can fasten it on the tightest hook then try a back size lower.

•The band should be completely horizontal

•You should only be able to fit a couple of fingers under the front of the bra. If you can get more than that, or you can pull it more than an inch or so away from your body at the back, it is TOO BIG!

•If you raise your arms, the back should not really move - no riding up

•The wires should be entirely encasing your breast tissue - breast tissue goes surprisingly far back and a lot of people don't realise this. If you feel where the wire is sitting under your arm then it should be sitting on a fairly firm surface.

•The central gore (where the wires meet) should sit flat between your boobs. if it is being pushed away, then the cup is probably too small (and the back possibly too big as well)

•There should be absolutely no lumps over the top of the cup. Take a fitted t shirt with you to put over the top of the bra and stand side on to a mirror and watch as you breathe in. If you have a bit of a bulge only when you breathe in, you probably need to go up 1 cup. If it is visible when breathing out then it's probably more like two cups or more.

•The cup shouldn't gape. If it does, it may be too big or it may be the wrong shape of bra for you. Moulded cups are particularly bad for this as they don't adapt to your shape.

•The shoulder straps shouldn't be painful and digging in. Most of the support should come from the back. If you find that you can't get enough support without the straps being so short they hurt the bra isn't for you. Most likely it's too big in the back but it may also just be a bra that doesn't suit you.

•and on that note; not every brand works for every person. There are quite distinct differences in shape between brands which mean a particular brand may just not suit the shape of your breasts.

SorrelForbes Thu 28-Feb-13 22:46:37

Bugger, just checked their site and it only goes up to a 30G.

Only three weeks until my holiday so I'll have to keep it. It'll be a good incentive to try and lose a few pounds grin

Marking my place till I find a measuring tape. So I lean over, measure the droopy nipples bit closest to the floor and then my band is the narrowest bit under my boobs?

I am wearing a bra with holes in because I hate trying to find what size fits in bravissimo. Think I am a 32HH at the moment, but all bras dig in under my arms..

Yup, got it in one missmakesstuff

Good evening all.
I go to work for a few hours and you fill up a thread!

That looks nice Sorrel, I've only tried one Hoola bikini before but it wasn't a great shape on me. What cup does it go up to?

Oops, cross post.

itsblackoveryonderhill Thu 28-Feb-13 22:55:16

After my 95% reasonable shop today in Debenhams I've since been on the mycurvesandme website and ordered £84 worth of bras. Some 32GG's 32G's and 34G's along with a 32 & 34G sports bra.

I'm determined to get my boobies sorted out again. I hate the over-roll in the armpit area and I think once trained back into being forward facing rather than spread under the armpit I'll find it much more easy to find a bra.

However, I will hold DH to the agreement that I can have day to myself to go to Bravissimo to try on and get sized to my hearts content

all hail the bra interventioners!!!!! grin

flumperoo Thu 28-Feb-13 22:55:23

Thanks for the advice. Does anyone know of any shops I can go into to try 28D size bras rather than order online?

Ok, 33 under bust, but not massively tight and 44 bust but was very cold in the bathroom so call it 43

what does that make me?

Womenandchickensfirst Thu 28-Feb-13 22:57:03

Well, if you're sure you don't mind....I was going to hunt through the other thread to see if anyone was the same as me. 36 under and 43 hanging down please. I think I'm in a 36D at the moment.

MrsBW Thu 28-Feb-13 22:57:05

So, I'm 32.5 inches under bust and 43 inches over.

Any help on my size would be greatly appreciated... I've worn a 36D or 36DD depending on brand as long as I can remember!

ScrambledSmegs Thu 28-Feb-13 22:58:55

I love these threads. MNers are going to be the best supported forum members on the internet, in so many ways grin

It's a bra revolution!

januaryjojo Thu 28-Feb-13 22:59:12

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

MissMakesStuff, given the 33 is not massively tight you probably need a 32. Start with a 32H/HH and go from there.

Women&chickends...start with a 36F

MrsBW - start with a 32H

FrameyMcFrame Thu 28-Feb-13 23:00:33

What if you have very LONG boobs?

I don't have a tape measure, I'll have to buy one tomorrow...

Marking my place - thank you for putting up the diagram. I <cough> wasn't sure exactly what 90 degree bending would look like - turns out I was, for once, correct.

Should really have listened in maths lessons.

Ahh, MrsBW I think we might be a similar size -

I used to be a 36 something when I still went to rubbish M and S, but I do think I am wearing mostly the right size - just that I get the wires sticking in the sides and sometimes the front, some bras are obscene as I end up with a cleavage with a mind of its own and some just make me look like my mum, with a shelf of boobage.

Also, Mine get bigger/smaller depending on the time of the month. At the moment, massive and painful. So am either due on or pregnant. Not sure which.

JanuaryJoJo, start with a 38FF, however you may need to try a smaller back size as sometimes those of us who are "squishy of torso" need a back which is smaller than the measured size in order to get adequate support. If you go further down in the back, remember to try 102 back size up to compensate

NewYearsEvelyn Thu 28-Feb-13 23:02:16

Watching this cos I need new bras and am sure my boobs have grown again!

FrameyMcFrame, measure that way anyway as the cup size is only ever a starting point, and make sure you know what a good bra should look like when you are trying on. I would suggest trying at least a cup either side of your "measurement" size as a rule of thumb for everyone

Missed that - thanks! I am wearing the right size. whoopee!

Now why do they stick in under my arms? If you don't mind...

How do you work out cup size? Just so's I know, for when I lose this extra stone I am carrying or put on more weight

Womenandchickensfirst Thu 28-Feb-13 23:05:07

Thank you*statistically*.

Cup size is basically 1 cup size per inch difference between band and overbust.

Can you describe what/where exactly they are sticking under your arms? And what bras you tend to wear

MrsBW Thu 28-Feb-13 23:05:47

StatisticallyChallenged Thank you!! I will try and report back!!

missmakestuff mine get even more mahoosive for a week every month!!! It's a mare.

13Iggis Thu 28-Feb-13 23:07:36

Forget the mumsnet scarf - ye shall know the mumsnetter by her perfect bosom!

SecondHandNews Thu 28-Feb-13 23:07:59

We should start a bra swap shop for all newly-sized people! Think someone from on the earlier thread was talking about a market on eBay for second hand bras wink I have a couple of barely worn really pretty bras (mimi holiday, princess tam tam and Elle McPherson) in 32C or 32D (and some other decent condition m&s ones in 32D or 32DD) ! grin

I also seriously think mycurvesandme will soon have a lot to thank MN for if my order is anything to go by - they'll be wondering why they have had such a sudden increase in sales!

januaryjojo Thu 28-Feb-13 23:09:15

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

SorrelForbes Thu 28-Feb-13 23:09:27

marriednotdead It's bloody lovely. That halterneck/bandeau shape is a very good one for me (I'm sooooo hourglass!). There's another similar one on the site which comes in a 30GG but it's £90 shock.

pomdereplay Thu 28-Feb-13 23:09:51

27 (barely) under, 34.5 over.
Have been wearing a 32FF but I can tell it isn't quite right... Any advice would be gratefully received!

Sorry, statisticallyChallenged I missed your brilliant post a while back, no idea how, very useful thanks. Although still confused why I am a H/HH cup as there is 10 - 11 difference between cup and band - that is J/ K isn't it?

It is the ends of the wire, right in the sides of my boobs, mostly buy from bravissimo, think they are freya bras and usually fairly covered over styles, if I buy a balconette (is that right?) half cup or plunge, feel far too overexposed and not supported enough - although do buy them for the odd special outfit, I can't wear them for more than a few hours as think I might pop out. Also tend to really hurt in the centre, pressing between my boobs.

MrsBW yep, every month the same, and oh so tender too, it isn't good. I have to sleep in a soft bra, it's ridiculous..

pinkstinks Thu 28-Feb-13 23:15:35

Ooh help me please! I always thought I was good at this, but the weight has crept on and I don't feel very supported at all sad I measure 38, 50. However I am wearing 36 backs and they are very loose! Please help my wandering bosoms!

KeatsiePie Thu 28-Feb-13 23:18:14

I am so happy the bra consultations are still going on!

I'm 28 under bust and 33 or 34 over. Currently in a 34A, often in a 36A. Can almost never find a comfortable bra.

SorrelForbes Thu 28-Feb-13 23:18:15

I have a couple of bras to donate, just pm me:

1 x R&P Vintage, black, 32G (I am probably more of a 30GG/H and this is too big in the back and small in the cup for me). Bought last summer so still in good condition.

1 x Bravissimo Mademoiselle in a 30H. (This is only two months old but is giving me quadraboob and also flattens me! I keep trying it and then putting it back in the drawer. Also, doesn't sit flat between my boobs. Definitely not a true 30H!)

SorrelForbes Thu 28-Feb-13 23:21:49

pomdereplay try a 28F

missmakesstuff You're forgetting the 'double letters' - FF, GG, HH

pinkstinks I would say try a 38HH but if your current 36s are loose then try a 36JJ, 34K and sizes around that.

KeatsiePie try a 28E

RayofSun Thu 28-Feb-13 23:24:14

OMG. So I have been bra shopping today at Debenhams. Just bought myself a 32f (!) which fits beautifully and am planning on chucking all those 34c/d's I gave lingering around. Thank you SO Much, AF,SC,CP and Sorrell


How did I not know about Mycurvesandme? They only have a few in my size but I have ordered lots and will send back the ones that don't fit.

Should I just order 32 band or bigger too? then does the cup size go down I guess?

SorrelForbes Thu 28-Feb-13 23:26:10

If you're between sizes then I'd suggest you the same bra in both band sizes and yes,a bigger cup for the smaller band,

Sorrel Have you seen this Freya and Pureda?
The Pureda comes up mega tight in the band so you'd probably need a 30GG but it's a nice fit.

Thanks...will do more serious shopping tomorrow I think! Too much maths for one evening...

OwcaDolly Thu 28-Feb-13 23:37:18

Hello, what a great thread! What does 30 under the boobs and 38 over make me?

I've been wearing 34C for ages, but I'm sure that will be the end of that...

Thanks a lot!

SorrelForbes Thu 28-Feb-13 23:37:22

marriednotdead I'm quite broad shouldered and find I need a halterneck where the straps come from the side of the cups but have a balconette shape (Fussy? Me?)

SorrelForbes Thu 28-Feb-13 23:37:46

OwcaDolly try a 30FF.

chestnutmare Thu 28-Feb-13 23:42:40

What a great thread! I'm almost certain I'm wearing the wrong size! I just measured myself, under measurement is 36, over is 42. What should I try?

Thanks! smile

Startail Thu 28-Feb-13 23:46:17

Almost the same as chestnutmare, 35/31 please

Startail Thu 28-Feb-13 23:46:49

sorry 35/41

Startail Thu 28-Feb-13 23:47:56

Oh and narrow slopping shoulders so my bra straps, vest straps and handbags always fall off.

SorrelForbes Thu 28-Feb-13 23:52:19

chestnutmare - try a 36E

startail - try a 34E, 34F 36E and a 36DD. I suspect that the 34F will be the closest.

Apologies Sorrel for crap link. Try this

Startail this Fantasie bra has straps that are angled so that they won't slip off. It's quite generous in the cup.

I love the underwear interventions. You (i presume) ladies giving advice are amazing. It makes me sad that so many women suffer back pain and poor body image that could be at least partly be helped with a good bra.

KeatsiePie Fri 01-Mar-13 00:04:11

Sorrel thank you so much!! Amazing how many women (including me) have never had a bra fitted properly.

If you don't mind -- any recommendations for where to shop online for a 28E? I've never seen E cups in a store. And/or if you have thoughts about what cut of bra is good for small breasts I'd love to hear them.

TheDoctrineOfSciAndNatureClub Fri 01-Mar-13 01:02:01

Yay new thread!

ToysRLuv Fri 01-Mar-13 01:16:51

I've been fairly happy with my 38 d bras, just hate the straps sliding off my shoulders all the time. Would a different measurement style correct this or should I stick to my sport tank toppy bras? My measurements are 34 and 40.

TheDoctrineOfSciAndNatureClub Fri 01-Mar-13 01:21:11

34E, I think you need!

VodkaKnockers Fri 01-Mar-13 01:36:25

Well it looks like I will be off bra shopping this weekend thanks to you lovely ladies.

I have also been spreading the info to my friends. Hopefully we will all have fabulously supported breasts from now on!

ToysRLuv Fri 01-Mar-13 01:37:31

Oh god. Well, at least it should be easy enough to find! Thanks! Will have a look next time I go to town..

KeatsiePie Fri 01-Mar-13 02:55:02

Wait. Seriously. An E?? Like, as in four cup sizes up from my current A? I am astonished. [looks down into shirt dubiously]

BratinghamPalace Fri 01-Mar-13 05:46:40

HELLS BELLS. For years I have been trying to find a bra that feels and looks good to no avail. Please tell me what I should be looking for ? I measured and am 32 below and 38 above. So why in Gods name am I wearing 34B? Can't be right can it?
'Nother thing, how come you all have measuring tapes handy? I had to measure myself with a long builder one!

Start with a 32E, but be prepared to try smaller in the back and bigger in the cup so 30F/FF too. Fit guide near the top of the thread.

GinOnTwoWheels Fri 01-Mar-13 06:37:53

For all of you that now have loads of wrong sized bras that you can't wear anymore and can't be sold or given to friends/family, can I suggest that they are donated to charity?

chestnutmare Fri 01-Mar-13 06:43:58

Thanks so much! Can't wait to go shopping at the weekend! grin

HeavenlyWineandRoses Fri 01-Mar-13 07:00:35

Watching with interest and bookmarking for when I finish breastfeeding.

Tell me, my LO is 6 months and starting on solids. I'm guessing this means she will drop some feeds. At what point can I return to under-wired bras?

OrangeLily Fri 01-Mar-13 07:06:33

I have a measuring tape in my sewing kit, is useful for all sorts.

Can't imagine using one of those builder ones shock that's a lot of sharp metal on exposed nipples.

I think I actually know how to do this now. Am sitting counting on my fingers! I take it you start counting from cup A? Do you I include AA? Where does that come in? I'm currently counting:

A,B, C,D, DD, E, F, FF, G,GG and so on?

Wow. I can't believe these threads, this is a revelation shock

I only have 1 comfy bra which is a 36c, all my other bras of various sizes are uncomfortable. But even my comfy bra is a bit annoying, the back rides up, straps fall down etc.

But my mainnissuevis this, my breasts don't really have any a lot of fullness at the top, so whilst I fill the C cup at the bottom, at the top it's very empty. Therefore when I lean forward my boob kind of shifts up and I end up with escapage.

My measurements are 31-31.5 under breast (depending on if I'm breathing in or out!) and 38 ish over.

Thank you lovely ladies!

Grange Fri 01-Mar-13 07:23:11

I'm a 33 under and 39 over Help please!

Furball Fri 01-Mar-13 07:48:26

KeatsiePie - I feel the same I currently just fill a 38c cup but have been measured 36 ff. I'm willing to trust the tape measure and the FANTASTIC knowledge on this thread and I've ordered a ff cup.

AgathaF Fri 01-Mar-13 07:48:27

doobie try a 32F or 30FF/G and sizes around those.

Grange try 34E or, more likely, 32F - and sizes around those.

AgathaF Fri 01-Mar-13 07:50:48

When you first go into your new, properly fitting size, it does feel tight at first but you get used to it really quickly. I would just hate to go back to a too large band, straps slipping off all the time, sore breasts from too small underwires etc, etc.

CelticPromise Fri 01-Mar-13 07:56:47

Re breastfeeding and pregnancy, it's fine to wear underwired if they fit properly and don't dig into breast tissue. Anita make underwired nursing bras but I haven't tried them.

CelticPromise Fri 01-Mar-13 07:57:23

That was in reply to Heavenly

HeavenlyWineandRoses Fri 01-Mar-13 08:25:46

Thanks Celtic. Will have a look as would like to make more of having decent boobs for once in my life!

KeatsiePie Fri 01-Mar-13 08:26:42

Furball I know, I'm sure it's true, it just blows my mind! I have a whole slew of online stores open in my browser (with good return policies just in case, since I feel like bra design varies so much).

Beksybob Fri 01-Mar-13 08:43:12

How do you know you will get used to having a tight band of material strapped to your chest and it won't just be uncomfortable forever? Sounds uncomfortable!

Also, are Next bras inherantly crap? Because they're well cheap in the clearance sale, and if you put them on your store card and return them if they don't fit, you never have to cough up...

And on the same lines as that, how are supermarket type bras?

Honestly, we have no spare cash so asda's kind of my price range! Presumably a proper fitting bra from there will be better than nothing? I'm still in shock tbh. I have empty, smallish boobs, how I'll fill an f/g I have no idea!

But will give it a go and report back tomorrow.... Thank you!!

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 08:50:28

KeatsiePie. You need to remember that the cup volume on a 28E is much smaller than the cup volume on, for example, a 34E.

So, the cup on your new 28E is roughly equal to the cup on a 30DD, 32D, 34C, 36B, 38A

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 08:52:04

doobie. Unfortunately I never get to try the bras from supermarkets or shops like Next as there bras always start at a 32/34 and I need a 30.

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 08:53:25

Straps slipping down and a band rubbing and feeling uncomfortable is a classic sign if a band that's too big.

Beksybob Fri 01-Mar-13 08:57:34

I've ordered a 30 from Next, but it's not their own brand.

I've got band-rubbing going on in the 32B I'm wearing. I'd previously assumed it was because it's too tight and bought 34A. Now I know, it's actually too big. Bra shop at lunchtime!

GoingVerySlowlyMad Fri 01-Mar-13 09:00:06

Can I get sized please 33 under 40 over. M&S have in a 38B but I'm really sore most of the time. Thanks!

Going, try a 32FF, 32F, 34F and 34E

MrsHavisham Fri 01-Mar-13 09:03:41

Help for me too please! Underbust 33.5, breasts 39. Thank you.

MrsHavisham Fri 01-Mar-13 09:04:16

M and S said I'm 36A

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 09:05:43

Try a 34F, 34E, 32F and 32FF. I suspect the 32 will be better for you. Make sure you sort the bad size out first by trying it on back on front.

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 09:06:11

Mornin' SC.

Morning SF!

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 09:08:20

MrsHavisham. Try a 34DD, 34E, 32E and a 32F.

GoingVerySlowlyMad Fri 01-Mar-13 09:09:38

Seriously!! No that can't be right I'm really flat and droopy! Will give it a try if it helps with the pain! Can I get that size on the high street, I'm in NI so a bit more limited.

3monkeys3 Fri 01-Mar-13 09:10:23

Ok! I am 30 (or a titch over) underneath and 41 over! I was fitted in bravissimo as 32f pre babies, but have been pregnant or bf for 5 years and now have no idea!

If you have a debenhams they may well have them. Honestly, an F cup isn't huge when attached to a 32 back.

bettybyebye Fri 01-Mar-13 09:11:26

Hello ladies, would be grateful if you could advise what size you think I might be. Last measures in bravissimo pre pregnancy as 32f. No longer bf-ing and need some new bras...

34.5 under bust and 42 at fullest part


3Monkeys, I would put you in a 30H now.

BettyByeBye - start with a 34FF

GoingVerySlowlyMad Fri 01-Mar-13 09:14:20

I can see now that M&S do that size but I'll be damned if I'm giving them any more of my money. Will look in Debenhams, are House of Fraser any good as we have one of those.

MrsMeeple Fri 01-Mar-13 09:16:16

Can anyone recommend online stores that have shipping to Europe (with good returns policies)? Would be much appreciated.


bettybyebye Fri 01-Mar-13 09:17:30

Thanks sc!

ssd Fri 01-Mar-13 09:17:47

does anyone know where I can get a soft bra to sleep in size 34J

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 09:21:49

House of Fraser stock quite a few brands including Fantasie and Freya. Their fitters can be very hit and miss so I'd avoid their help!

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 09:22:25

BraStop often does free delivery to Europe. You could also try some of the Polish brands like Ewa Michalak.

IcaMorgan Fri 01-Mar-13 09:27:18

I took my friend to Bravissimo yesterday and she went from a 36B/C to a 32FF

Taking another friend bra shopping today but I will have to do the measurements

I have a possibly dumb question: that perfect fit advice - does it apply to non wired bras? It was suggested on the last thread that I try a 28HH but I need a nursing bra and theyre all soft cups in that size - I've never had a non wired bra that's fitted comfortably.

Abra1d Fri 01-Mar-13 09:28:12

WHen you've measured your overbust, how do you work out the cup size? Is a certain difference, eg, 5cm, a D? 6cm DD?

Please help! I knew what size I was pre-DC (32G) as I was saved by Bravissimo about 15 years ago. Breastfeeding I was a 34K shock and now I've settled down to 33 - 45, whatever that may be.....! I live abroad and trying different sizes by post is just too expensive.

abra1d - it's basically 1inch=1cup - so the difference between the band and your overbust.

The Bra-lphabet goes A,B,C,D,DD,E,F,FF,G,GG,H,HH,J,JJ,K,KK, most UK brands. AA is less than 1" difference

micku5 Fri 01-Mar-13 09:32:02

Could I have some help please. I used to wear a 34F (measured at house of Fraser) but I have put on a bit of weight and my bras are digging into me and leaving marks.

I measured myself this morning and I'm a 33.5 and 43. What size do I need? I've found that Freya seem to fit me the best, but am happy to try other brands.

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 09:34:08

Baroness try a 32J, 32HH, 34HH and a 34H

So that would put me at a 34HH. I have a 34J that pretty much fits so it's more the model than the cup that's wrong then. Not bad - Bravissimo fitted me with the J-cup over the telephone! smile

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 09:35:40

micku5 try a 34G, 34GG, 32GG and 32H

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 09:36:38

The cup is so tricky get right. I have a range in my drawer from FF to H

Bravissimo are pretty good that way! A 34J fitting is absolutely fine, I have everything from GG-JJ in my bra-drobe.

Somebody has tweeted M&S

micku5 Fri 01-Mar-13 09:38:10

Thank you. Will be out later to try on some new bras, the 3 that I have been wearing are looking a bit worse for wear now.

Thanks Forbes! I mean Sorrel.

I knew a Forbes once. <licks lips, sighs, and gives a dirty big grin>

Didactylos Fri 01-Mar-13 09:38:26

we may have filled a thread..
but did we scoop?

Tweeted M&S?

ssd Fri 01-Mar-13 09:43:02

what soft bra comes in 34J - anyone?

Abra1d Fri 01-Mar-13 09:44:48

Thanks, Statistically.

Bravissimo have 3 on their site, I haven't tried them though

ssd I'm wearing one - I'll just take it off and have a look!

CunfuddledAlways Fri 01-Mar-13 09:46:56

so if im 33 underbst and 42 overbust what size should i get??

ssd Fri 01-Mar-13 09:46:58

do you not need to sleep in a bra SC? my boobs have stared to kill me when not in a bra

ssd Royce.

cunfuddledalways try a 32GG, 32G, 34G, 34FF

SSD I don't at the moment, did when I was late pregnancy though!

I got mastitus from sleeping in a bra, so I never do.

Having been inspired by these threads and havibg worn a 38B for years I recently went for a fitting in Debenhams. I came out with a Freya Bra in a 34 DD which fits really well.

However I asked for a fitting in m&s a few days later. They sent me off with a 34 DD too but it doesn't fit so well at all. It is moulded and gapes.

I now know what to look for to check myself but struggle to know what sizes to try. I am 33 under and 37 over.

FanOfTheInvisibleMan, a 34DD is certainly within your range of sizes. In some bras you may well need a 32 - try an E

Thanks. I struggle to know what over sizes to try if a 34DD doesn't fit!

ssd Fri 01-Mar-13 09:58:20


who makes Royce?

fanoftheinvisibleman - until you get your confidence up, try a bra on back to front first. The band should be firm, and you should only be able to get a couple of fingers under it. Once you have the band right, it's a case of working through the cup sizes. If can be hard to tell at first if the back or band is wrong - so doing the band independently makes is easier

Thanks smile

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 10:03:48

SC - do you have a link to the tweet? I might have to sign up wink

Royce make Royce.

Please could someone size me? I am 30in under and 35.5 over. Thanks very much grin

MrsHavisham Fri 01-Mar-13 10:13:40

Thank you Sorrel, off to Llandudno to try on bras now smile

Strawberry, try a 30DD and 30E

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 10:29:32

Haven't been to Llandudno for years. Faded seaside Victorian style?

Startail Fri 01-Mar-13 10:41:12

Thank you, have put your suggestions into my phone for next trip.

Not sure I can bring my self to put my 38 B frame into a 34 F, but I'll try. It's rather a mental jump because I really don't have much norkage.

Dresses are too big on to, usually.

Oh my goodness if I am that would be amazing, I've been wearing 34b for around 10 years!

Look at the info upthread about how to put on and test the fit of a bra Startail. The 34F is a starting point, but it should be fairly close.

HRH008 Fri 01-Mar-13 10:46:08

I´ve done the measurements ... can you please help?

32 under and 39 over

thank you SO much!

TheThickPlottens Fri 01-Mar-13 10:49:19

I've been wearing 36B as prescribed by myself. I was brought up in a very prudish family so no talking about boobs or bras or periods, etc. I used to be too embarrassed to get measured properly so I just bought the same bra over and over. (Which was rare anyway.)

But I've grown up some and am more relaxed about my body so measured myself and came up with 36b.

Re-measured myself today after seeing the light from this thread. I'm 32 under and 37 over. Did I get it all wrong? I don't find my bra uncomfortable but the straps often fall down.

And what is this 4 boobs thing that's been mentioned?

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 10:50:19

HRH008 try a 32F

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 10:52:48

TheThickPlottens If your straps are falling down then it's almost definitely because the band you're wearing is too big.

I would suggest trying a 32DD. You will find it gives much more support, better lift and a good profile.

4 boob, otherwise known as quadraboob is where the cup is too small and the boobs spill over causing a 4 breast effect!

TheThickPlottens - try a 32DD. Straps falling down is a classic sign that the back is probably too big for you.

4boobs is when you have a bump at the top of your bra which is often visible in a top

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 10:54:56

SC - opposite ends of the country yet linked by a long piece of bra elastic grin

HRH008 Fri 01-Mar-13 10:57:14

Thanks Sorrel. I know you`ve heard this before, but you are marvellous!

I'm closer than you think today - on an East Coast train right now!

Jeeps Fri 01-Mar-13 11:19:07

Hi, please would someone size me!

I'm 33 under and 39 "hanging over" but my boobs don't seem to have a lot of stuffing! I am currently wearing 34Bs and when I take them off in the evening, my boobs ache for ages!

Thank you lovely ladies!

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 11:19:18

Ooh. A mobile bra expert. StatisticallyChallenged, coming to a town near you! Bra fittings available!!

peppersaunt Fri 01-Mar-13 11:20:51

Wearing 36B. Measured 32/37-38. Tried 34C but 34 always seems too small if I wear it more than an hour. Help!

peppersaunt the 34 would have seemed too small because it was probably a bit tight in the cup. Try a 32DD and 32E

peppersaunt Fri 01-Mar-13 11:23:00

Also have massively saggy collapsed breast feeding boobs. Must hoick!!!

Grange Fri 01-Mar-13 11:23:42

Thankyou AgathaF. I'm heading straight to debenhams in my lunch hour.

Keeps, start with a 32F. You may also want to try a 32E, 34E and 34DD

Hoping nobody on the train is looking over my shoulder the amount of bra pages open!

peppersaunt Fri 01-Mar-13 11:24:13

Thanks so much SC! Will give it a go! I think the cup letter is a big psychological hurdle...

Jeeps Fri 01-Mar-13 11:26:11

Thank you SC! My boobs just seem pretty small though and I can't imagine them filling a DD!

sparkle12mar08 Fri 01-Mar-13 11:28:31

I may have missed it in the various amazing threads, but are there any brastop codes floating about? Am about to order three figures worth of bras shock so would be nice to have a bit of a saving!

Not all D-cups are created equal image here

Plopsicle Fri 01-Mar-13 11:31:29

Finally got round to measuring last night.

31 under
36 over

I've been wearing 32b or c for as long as I can remember.

link fail here

ChickenLidl Fri 01-Mar-13 11:42:07

Can someone do me please?!

Not sure how tight to pull tape measure when doing the band measurement - it's 30 if just held around but can get it below 29 if I pull really tight. 38 round when bending over.

I tried to count myself but ended up in the GGs on a 28 band which I can't quite believe is true. DH will have heart failure grin

I'm with you Jeeps mine are quite little too, I imagine dds to be able to fit on my head not my v small boobies...going to town as soon as the baby wakes up, this is very exciting. Thanks for the measuring!

DDs as in cup size, not my two daughters who I will not be putting on my head.

gingercat12 Fri 01-Mar-13 11:48:34

Thanks for the advice. never would hsve thought of 32DD.

ChickenLidl, try a 30FF to start with but do the tests at the top pf the thread to test fit of the 30 back. If you find it looser than described go down to a 28, and try a G/GG

Promise, you won't get a 32DD on your head!

CelticPromise Fri 01-Mar-13 11:51:56

Popsicle start with a 30E.

Plopsicle Fri 01-Mar-13 11:58:41

Yikes an E cup!

Thanks Celtic.

Seabright Fri 01-Mar-13 11:58:49

Just measured:

Underbust measurement: 84-85cm
Droopy boob measurement: 102cm

Thanks in advance!

Seabright, start with a 32FF, but also try a 32F, 34F and 34E

Ladies who tweet, please help us spread the word...

Alliwantisaroomsomewhere Fri 01-Mar-13 12:11:28

About half an hour ago, I swopped my 40D for a 38G as recommended by SC and I feel F A B U L O U S!!!!

Thank you!!!!!!!!!

Jeeps Fri 01-Mar-13 12:18:40

SC - thanks for the link and diagram.

StrawberrytallCAKE - let me know how you get on with the DDs!

Miggsie Fri 01-Mar-13 12:21:49

Is there a reason for bras that seem fine when you try them on but get unbearably painful by the end of the day? I had a Calvin Klein that did this - seemed fine when tried it on, but as I wore it it got less and less comfortable, so that by 4pm I was desperate to "de-bra". It was cutting in under my arms sooooooo badly.

It reminded me of an episode of the "IT Crowd" where Jen's badly fitting bra caused her to mess up a meeting and she rips it off afterwards screaming "bad bra". Then later she says about a new bra "what if it goes bad? All Bras go bad."

Anyone else found a bra that "goes bad"???

PS I would like to nominate SC for an MBE for her services to women's breast comfort.

Sometimes a bra that doesn't fit well isn't immediately obvious when you first try it on. It's only when you start moving around that starts to move.

Have a look at the info at the top of the thread about how to recognise a good bra and compare it. It may be the wrong size, or it may just not be a good bra for your shape.

MBE = Mistress of the Big-boob Empire?! smile

CelticPromise Fri 01-Mar-13 12:29:57

Yay AllIWant! Makes a massive difference doesn't it?

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 12:31:19

I love bra success stories!

delilahlilah Fri 01-Mar-13 12:42:23

Ok.... For the doubting thomas's out there who are paranoid about 'giant' cups!
I had been in a DD or occasionally an E cup - I had trouble with gaping at the top of the e cup, so couldn't work out where to go from there. I heeded the advice on the thread, and couldn't believe I need to go up so many cups, but thought I would try out an h cup. I took delivery of 2 new bras this morning. Far more comfortable, but after scooping, I need to go up another cup at least! The cups are not as massive as you brain image thinks.

Thank you all here for the advice. I have just ordered some more from the Yours website sale. they are offering 10% off and free delivery to new customers. HTH

SpicyPear Fri 01-Mar-13 12:49:34

For all the sceptics I was in a 34C before one of the bra threads a few months ago. Unusually I had my band measurement right but my cups all wrong. I'm now a very comfy and streamlined 34E and my boobs are not at all massive. I'd been smooshing half of them into a C because of this erroneous belief that a D is Jordan style huge.

Also agree with the others. Having swopped from a 38B to 34DD. I put my old bra on the other day and felt like my boobs were all over the place!

lookout Fri 01-Mar-13 13:00:36

Hi all.

HazleNutt gave me a guide of 34FF yesterday from the measurements I gave, and I found a couple of 36C's lurking in the back of my drawer last night which I tried on. The C was way too small, but the 36 actually felt as tight as I would want to go, a 34 would definitely be too tight, I think.

If I were to go for a 36 instead of a 34, what would the cup size come down to?

Lookout did you try the 36 back to front?!

delilahlilah Fri 01-Mar-13 13:04:57

lookout you may not find this to be the case! When more boob goes in the cup, the back size fits better! blush

delilahlilah Fri 01-Mar-13 13:06:34

Companies like M&S need to start making the bra fit the boob instead of the boob having to fit the bra they decide you need. A much better range of sizes is needed.

lookout Fri 01-Mar-13 13:09:16

SC, yes I tried back to front and did the finger test and it was tight. It is an M&S bra, admittedly.

delilah do you think then if I tried a 'proper' 34FF from one of the recommended websites it would fit differently then? How unusual!

Lookout, honestly I was horrified at the suggestion I should drop from 38 to 34. And when I first put it in it felt horrible and restrictive. I felt like I wouldn't relax at all but it got comfy very quickly. When I put my 38 on the other day it felt like I could turn round inside it!

delilahlilah Fri 01-Mar-13 13:16:24

Are you close enough to shop to go and try some on lookout ? I'm well pleased with my new ones so far, but can't wait to try another cup size up. I am so shocked by the difference. It makes them migrate north too!!

Beksybob Fri 01-Mar-13 13:17:51

Bra shop fail (part 2). They don't have anything in a 30. Oh well, will maybe go to town tomorrow. Which is a big deal for me, I don't do shopping! It's still only a small town though, no Debenhams or Bravissimo or the like, just an M&S I'm afraid.

WishYouWereMine Fri 01-Mar-13 13:22:55

I've just been to Bravissimo... The 38HH was too big but I ended up in a 38FF. I must have very long skinny boobs lol. Very happy though :D thank you!

lookout Fri 01-Mar-13 13:32:13

delilah there's only an M&S near me, so afraid I wouldn't find much there. And price wise, I'd much rather try and get online. I'd like to get two different sizes and try them both then send back whichever doesn't fit well, but I don't know what cup size I would need if I went with a 36.

Any help much appreciated!

delilahlilah Fri 01-Mar-13 13:34:22

lookout I didn't mean for buying wink trying on is free!! Just thought it might help to actually try them out.
If you try 36 then possibly an F, I would think. Am sure SC will be able to confirm smile

lookout Fri 01-Mar-13 13:39:07

Do you think they'd have 34FF in an M&S?? Sooooo long since I looked at bras blush

CelticPromise Fri 01-Mar-13 13:54:22

If you go down in the band go up in the cup, so F. M&S do have styles up to GG so worth a look, although I find their bras a touch flimsy for the job (am a 32G/GG).

CelticPromise Fri 01-Mar-13 13:54:50

Duh I meant up in the band, down in the cup...

I have been directing people here for fitting advice, don't know if anyone I know has taken up this advice yet grin

I have been told that I'll need to keep an eye on my size regularly as boobs do continue to grow as you age (hence the number of old ladies with mahoosive boobs, certainly in our area).

Plopsicle Fri 01-Mar-13 14:09:42

I've just been to Debenhams on my lunch break, tried on some 30E's as recommended by CelticPromise. I am amazed at how much better they fit, they make my boobs look so much smaller and perkier.

Even better managed to get 2 bras for £6 each in the sale! Debenhams have loads of their 'Gorgeous' brand in the sale, there were lots of small back/big cup sizes there.

WishYouWereMine Fri 01-Mar-13 14:29:53

Wow! My boobs look great! They're up and supported and I can't stop looking at them hehe.

CelticPromise Fri 01-Mar-13 14:34:15

Good news plopsicle and Wish! You'll never look back!

lookout Fri 01-Mar-13 14:47:50

Ok, thanks Celtic, I'll see if I can pop into M&S some time.

cantilena Fri 01-Mar-13 15:15:13

Ooh, my 30J has just arrived and blimey! What a revelation! I was convinced that I'd feel all trussed up in a 30 band but it's really comfy. Bit too much space in the cup so might buy a couple more now in a 30HH which should be perfect!

Even with the slightly-too-big cup, it has improved my clothes no end - would never have taken my jumper off if I had a clingy t-shirt. Wahoo! Thanks lovely bra ladies smile

Grange Fri 01-Mar-13 15:19:33

With a 33 under and 39 over I have just got a Freya from debenhams in a 32e. Revelation.

CelticPromise Fri 01-Mar-13 15:36:55

Yay the success stories continue! Tell your friends!

NoHank Fri 01-Mar-13 15:47:44

Wow, I can't believe how wrong I must have had it all these years. Only just seen the thread and measured myself. I am 32 under and 40/41 over. By the measurements guidelines should that make me about a 32F / 32FF?

I have been guessing between a 34DD and 36E for years.

Funnily enough I spoke to a relation I see only very rarely a few months ago and she said there was no way I was a 36 back as I looked much smaller and she thought I must be a 32 . She has worked in the bra fitting department at Debenhams for years. I thought she was just being polite and saying I looked like I had lost wieght. I should have listened blush

hopehopehope Fri 01-Mar-13 15:51:34

Please could you help me too? Have always been told by m&s that I'm a 34AA and am super flat chested. Never ever had a comfy bra in my life and I'll be 40 next month!! Cups always seem to be the wrong shape and stick out from my boobs and I have to hoist the straps up so high, the sides dig in under my arms. The backs always seem twisty and the front bit rides up. I measure 28 under and 30/31 round. I read the small boobs thread months ago and tried a 28a and 30a and then a 28b in debenhams but despite being quite petite, I looked like the michellin man with rolls of fat hanging out everywhere and could barely breathe! What size do you suggest I try?

squeakytoy Fri 01-Mar-13 15:56:55

What should I be?

I am 34 under and 45 round..

TooExtraImmatureCheddar Fri 01-Mar-13 16:04:19

Hope, 28B/C? Although someone earlier suggested that if you're very skinny, you may need to go up a band size. I don't know for sure, though!

Squeaky, 34H? In that ball-park, anyway.

As there appears to be no decent shops near me, can anyone suggest somewhere in Plymouth?

CelticPromise Fri 01-Mar-13 16:09:16

NoHank 32G/GG. You may have missed out the double letters!

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 16:11:09

hopehopehope Try a 28C/D and a 30B/C. An A is going to be too small in the cup for you and it sounds like a B is too.

Sorry if someone has already asked this, I've been trying to keep up with the threads, but what do you do if you are a bit lopsided? My right breast is at least a cup size smaller than the other.

CelticPromise Fri 01-Mar-13 16:12:10

hope you need to go up in the cup to C or even try D and scoop scoop scoop all stray bulges into the cups. If the cup's top small the band will feel too tight. If you really feel that 28 is too tight you could try a 30 but remember to go down in the cup if you go up in the band.

CelticPromise Fri 01-Mar-13 16:13:40

Blonde if you search for marriednotdead she has done a really good post somewhere about uneven breasts. The basic rule I believe is fit the bigger one and if necessary pad the smaller one.

CelticPromise Fri 01-Mar-13 16:14:23

Afternoon Sorrel! Loving the success stories on the other thread!

micku5 Fri 01-Mar-13 16:17:08

SorrelForbes, just wanted to say thank you. I ended up buying 2 bras today both Freya but one a 32GG and the other a 32H. What a difference a good fitting bra makes!!

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 16:19:40

Afternoon CP. I know, it's so cheering! I walked through M&S today and felt the rage building so didn't linger! Had a 20% off voucher too but I know they don't stock anything over a DD! Useless.

You're very welcome micku5. It's unbelievable isn't it?

Thank you! smile

Ladies..can any of you who tweet and have had a bad M&S fit please tweet them? At the moment they say they " fit by measurement for underband and by sight for cup for more accuracy. What store did you visit? "

I don't want this passed off as one bad experience when we know it is not...

hopehopehope Fri 01-Mar-13 16:26:43

Thank you sooo much! Have noted down all the possible options to try on and will be shopping next week for new undies. With regards to scooping, how do I do that when my boobs are so small? Is it all the side bits of fat too?!!! Are there any high street stores that sell 28 and 30 inch backs? Would I need to look online? Still in shock that I'm bigger than an a cup! Thank you all again, will update after my shopping trip.

Tigglette Fri 01-Mar-13 16:35:27

I've been following this thread with interest given my 40D bra size has never felt comfortable or looked right - rolls of back fat, bulging etc - but a bigger cup size looked empty. Have followed the measuring guide and am 38 under and 46 over... Popped in to debenhams today and am the proud owner of 3 new 38F bras which have eliminated back fat and make my boobs look fantastic... Thank you thank you!

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Fri 01-Mar-13 16:37:00

WOW!!! I just did the bra size calculator and I am not a 32B, it says I am a 28FF shock shock shock I have small boobs, I am not Jordan!

Can someone please tell me how tight to pull the tape measure around the droopy bits? I did it quite loosely so may have added a few centimetres there.

I am definitely going to try out some new bras after this thread thanks

Yey Tigglette! Where had you been fitted before?

Hopehopehope, try Debenhams if you have one, or john lewis.

itsokay, the tape should be fairly loose over the bust. The cup is the harder but to measure, so start with the FF but also try a size or two either side.

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Fri 01-Mar-13 16:41:32

Thank you Statistically, will report back when I actually get a chance to go shopping.

Tigglette Fri 01-Mar-13 16:52:02

I'm another M&S victim I'm afraid, though I was also fitted by a small local shop who in the end said the same measurement as M&S but suggested a load of different styles. I've tried everything from padded to ultimo style bras to underwired scaffolding to try and keep my boobs in place and the back fat and ugly bulging stuff in place. I can't tell you how happy I am with my new boobage!

Nightfall1983 Fri 01-Mar-13 16:54:13

So today MAY have been my first day ever wearing a properly fitting bra - or maybe it needs a bit more tweaking. I'm not sure because I've never had such a tight fitting band before and I think it may take some getting used to but it wasn't comfortable.

Scooping seems to make it fit well but after about 30mins of activity (hoiking the LO about) the fat side boob seems to slip out and the under-wires poke into me. Now I can practically hear you saying try a smaller backsize but I tried that in the store (current 36DD, tried 34E) and couldn't really even do it up. Also the central bit of the current bra REALLY digs in to my chest and hurts alot. However I must admit that I AM able to get my whole hand under the front of the bra which makes no sense really...

Any advice or will I just get used to it?

sparkle12mar08 Fri 01-Mar-13 16:57:15

Sounds like you might need to try a bigger cup size again, perhaps a 34f?

That sounds like the cup might be too small still, possibly coupled with too big a back. What bra was it - might not be quite the right shape for you either?

Nightfall1983 Fri 01-Mar-13 17:04:21

It's difficult because I could probably do with some RL advice on what shape suits me but have no faith in high street stores and don't know where to try - no Bravissimo in Derby (not that I've even imagined myself in Bravissimo previously, I thought I was a 40A!).

Anyway, it was a t-shirt style bra, though not called that. It's an m&s ultimate comfort one I think...

Can I suggest trying a non-padded/moulded bra? T-shirt bras have their place however the lack of flexibility in their shape means that it is much harder to get a good fit, and you can't really tell if it is quite right for you or not. In terms of working out your size, they're not the best place to start.

Nightfall1983 Fri 01-Mar-13 17:11:19

Ok, I'll give it a go - what is your opinion on non-underwired?

Not great unless you are really quite petite in the bust department. I think a lot of ladies fear underwired bras because they have never had one which fits properly!

blibblibs Fri 01-Mar-13 17:41:40

Can you do me please. 34C/D aren't working and the jml type crop thing is crap.

33.5 under
39/40 depending on how tight i have it

(Squidged to 36 in this awful thing I have on today sad)

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 17:45:18

I'm not surprised the 34C/D isn't working for you.

Try a 34DD/E and a 32F/FF. More cup room will really help with the tightness of the band. Make sure you try the bras on back to front first to work out the correct band size for you.

I tried to write a message but it magically disappeared.

Thank you so so much Statistically I have actually been wearing a 34B for 10 years and I am in fact a 30E. I went to bravissimo thinking I would be thrown out and I walked out a very very happy lady, my new bra fits perfectly and you are now my favourite mn-er. My only problem now is buying a whole new wardrobe of bras.

Inspired by this I told my mum (who also wears 34B) to measure herself and would be very grateful if you could size her too....she measures 32 under bust 37 under.

CelticPromise Fri 01-Mar-13 18:13:03

Strawberry 32DD for starters for your mum.

TheThickPlottens Fri 01-Mar-13 18:14:11

Thank you for your advice. It'll be next week before I get to the shops but I'm dying to try out some 32DDs! And to think that I was wearing 36AAs before pregnancy. No wonder the underwire hurt.
I'm glaring now at my 36B cup bra now and it's pretty new.

I'll report back when I've tried on my new size.

I think you advisors (MBEs) could go on tour and shock nation. I'm picturing a boob mobile...

HazleNutt Fri 01-Mar-13 18:15:08

what is it with that 34B? everybody and their mother seems to be wearing it, did M&S have a serious surplus and that's why they told all women, no matter what their size, that this is what they should be wearing?

sparkle12mar08 Fri 01-Mar-13 18:17:16

What we need is a bra measuring flash mob in an M&S...

stacysmom Fri 01-Mar-13 18:19:31

Or a new 8pm Channel 4 show at the very least.

TheThickPlottens Fri 01-Mar-13 18:20:13

I'm imaging a mob of MNers flashing their bras in M&S grin

beanbump Fri 01-Mar-13 18:21:43

Thank you so much ladies!! I went shopping today and was told I was a 38E. I picked up a 38E & seriously doubted that it would fit. It was HUGE!! I brought in lots of smaller sizes BUT surprise you were right - it was perfect. A little tight on the band but i have been wearing 42B!! My husband even noticed tonight -I think because they are up north & not down south!! I am going to order more online - are there any brands that are smaller/larger fitting? Thank you again

CMOTDibbler Fri 01-Mar-13 18:21:58

I'm 34 underbust, 41 overbust in the 90' measuring position. What bra size is that then?

blibblibs Fri 01-Mar-13 18:24:01

Thank you. Will try to get some alone time at the weekend and go shopping.

If I pull tightly under bust is 32.5 but thats very very tight. But will try all sizes, back to front first smile

Will update soon, hopefully

CMOT Dibbler, welcome to the revolution ;)

Try a 34F as a starting point.

CMOTDibbler Fri 01-Mar-13 18:28:06

Bloomin heck. An F cup <faints>

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 18:28:13

Yes, please come back and update as I'm very nosey interested in how people get on with their new sizes.

NoHank Fri 01-Mar-13 18:35:08

G? GG? <Thud>

Thank you CelticPromise I will certainly give it a try and report back!

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 18:40:18

Just re-posting this blog as it does a great job explaining why cup size is relative to back size.

Furball Fri 01-Mar-13 18:44:46

Cmot - I'm a double FF and like you am totally flabberghasted.

Also completely astonishing is how many of us didn't know their size - or until now, how to measure properly and I've been wearing a bra for over 30 years.

Bring on the revolution! grin

and MN awards to all the lovely advisor people on these threads. biscuitbiscuit <-----Nork Emoticon

Trazzletoes Fri 01-Mar-13 18:58:24

Right, so I should be a 34DD or a 36D.

I've just ordered a couple of bras to try on but realised(!) this morning that I'm currently wearing a 36B. If I think about it, it feels a bit narrow at the bottom, but even with extensive, vigorous scooping it still gapes at the top.

Is this because:
A) it's too small so fits badly everywhere and the gaping is just an extension of that;

B) it's cheap rubbish from Asda so probably isn't even a 36B especially as its kind of a bit moulded; or

C) I must have measured myself wrongly and there's no way I can be a 36D after all..

Chances are you need the 34, which will hold the bra up much better. It can be very hard to stop a bra gaping at the top if it is too big in the back as it just collapses forward.

OrangeLily Fri 01-Mar-13 19:03:50

Warning: bra intervention thread will lead to you wanting to accost random women in asda with a bra intervention...... So many four boobs and wobbles on the go!

(It was 8 degrees C in Scotland today which evidently means we wear vest tops smile)

Trazzletoes Fri 01-Mar-13 19:06:01

Thanks sc I think I need you on speed dial!

That's toastie by our standards OrangeLily!!

Thank you Celtic I have told her and will take her to bravissimo on Monday/Tuesday. This must be the most life changing thread I've ever read.

pixiegumboot Fri 01-Mar-13 19:23:55

OK my problem is that my boobs seem too close together. There is no way the bit in the middle will sit flat there's just no room. If I do manage to put one on that sits flat-ish it pushes my boobs out and away from each other looks most odd. Help! !confused

littlemisssunny Fri 01-Mar-13 19:27:34

Ooh could you tell me my size please I'm 34.5 inches underneath and 40 inches over I think! I am wearing a 38a but can never find one that fits nicely!

Pixie this is an issue I have - very very close set boobs. I find I either need to wear a bra which is seriously low in the middle, or one which has a very tall central gore so the middle sits over my breast tissue and doesn't dig in. Something like the Bravissimo Alana or Betsy Bow, or the Fantasie Florence, work for this. But anything kind of half height is exceptionally painful, so I struggle with demi-plunges. I have just got my first bras from Ewa Michalak and they have a very narrow central gore. Kris Line are also quite narrow, and Bravissimo own brand aren't bad. Panache are dire and some Curvy Kate's aren't great either.

If the middle is tall enough then my boobs don't fall back together

LittleMisssunny, that's cos you probably need around a 34E smile

littlemisssunny Fri 01-Mar-13 19:31:30

Really shock an E? grin

No wonder I couldn't find a nice fitting bra!!

<very excited about going to try on bras in an E cup>

poppypebble Fri 01-Mar-13 19:34:58

I bought a 36D today, and it fits so much better than the 38B I was being tortured with, but I can still pull the band away quite a bit and when I scoop there is a bit of 4 boob going on. Should I go up a cup size or down a back size?

CelticPromise Fri 01-Mar-13 19:36:44

Both poppy from the sound of it.

By the sounds of it, both are needed. So, I would try a 34E and 34F.

HazleNutt Fri 01-Mar-13 19:38:27

and several cup sizes, Poppy. If you get 4-boob, the D is too small, so you would need to go up a cup size, possibly two, to 36DD or 36E. If you go down a band, you need to go up a cup just to compensate, so try 34F.

poppypebble Fri 01-Mar-13 19:38:35

Thanks Celtic - so I should try a 34E?

Thank you so much for these threads - trying that bra on tonight was the first time I ever felt like a had boobs!

Evening Hazle!

And Celtic!

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 19:52:06

OrangeLily Oh god, it's so tempting to just stop people and offer to help! I can just imagine their faces though shock confused

pixiegumboot Fri 01-Mar-13 20:01:53

OK thanks will trygrin

Careful Sorrel, that sort of activity in the wrong shop could be dangerous!

OrangeLily Fri 01-Mar-13 20:14:45

There was one women with a big shelf type wobble going on and she was hoicking at her straps something awful...... Aaahhhhh

Going on a hen do this weekend so plenty of opportunity to talk boobs with other ladies.

CelticPromise Fri 01-Mar-13 20:17:29

Evening SC. I have seen a few bra disasters today. Maybe we should have a flyer we can slip in their pockets...

HazleNutt Fri 01-Mar-13 20:37:11

Hey SC. Even my DH now points out badly fitting bras to me, after me ranting about them so passionately.
And sports bras! The flimsy tops sold as sports bras should all be burned - I teach some fitness classes and can I just say "ouch!". Some women must be hugely uncomfortable, with their boobs flying from knees to chin with every move. Yes, there are sports bras out there for DD+ women, really!

CelticPromise Fri 01-Mar-13 20:52:42

Hazle my rugby club negotiated a 10% discount from Maybe you could do the same for your classes! Point them in the right direction at least.

I often see women out running and think 'ouch!'

Maybe you should subtly stick a "bra fitting advice" poster to the door Hazle?

My DH can point out the bad bras too.

I have clearly been far too bored today!

SamraLee Fri 01-Mar-13 21:04:46

So how tight is your bra band suppose to be? I know you should only be able to fit two fingers underneath in the front, but what if you can't fit any at all?

It might be a little too tight - but how does it feel?

Evening all. Had a day off so fairly bra free not literally, that would be messy. Looks like you've all been busy though grin

Had the urge to buy DD another bra though. We've never been able to find one in her real size that fits properly or is comfortable, much to my disgust. Now her boobs are a bit bigger, she's got a perfect fit albeit on the tightest hook. £6 in Sainsbos, it's not fair.

Busy indeed marriednotdead...I spent too long on trains with inadequate wireless for proper working, and a pathetically small table for studying. Which only leaves ranting about bras!

Such hardship grin

TooExtraImmatureCheddar Fri 01-Mar-13 21:20:14

Ha at Scots out in vest tops in 8 degrees! That's positively tropical for us.

I am planning an intervention tomorrow. Extremely badly-fitting bra on friend, lifelong problem. She is v large of nork and also v shy. Wears big baggy Tshirts all the time. Owns nothing fitted. She suffers badly with RSI including shoulder pain. I am convinced that a good bra might reduce her pain, but worried that she'll be mortified if I say so and refuse to cooperate. Any tips for gently encouraging her?

TooExtraImmatureCheddar Fri 01-Mar-13 21:21:17

She's not even 30 and her boobs have been pointing south since we were 15. sad

Could you maybe print out a bra fitting guide, say you found it and it helped you so much and you think it might help her shoulder pain?

Which it seriously might - a bad bra puts so much strain on shoulders.

Messandmayhem Fri 01-Mar-13 21:22:38

Turns out my measurements the other day were wrong, I'm actually just under 32 under and iirc 47 over. After trying a million bras in bravissimo I have left with a 30JJ. I NEVER beleived the centre would lie flat, even the fitters in bravissimo had previously told me "you don't really get that with bigger busts" but IT DOES!!!!

My boobs look awesome :D Thank you bra geniuses!

YAY! More happy breasts smile

Messandmayhem They shouldn't be saying that! Yes, it's harder to achieve but still...

If she agrees to let you, where will you take her? She may need time to psyche herself up. Hoping she throws herself into it, but you may need to go very slowly.

Incidentally, I have an RSI (tennis elbow) and shoulder pain, probably from my line of work!

May have outed myself there to anyone who has encountered me at work. Oh well...

Yeah, anyone on here who actually knows the real me can probably ID me too....ah well!

determinedma Fri 01-Mar-13 21:42:22

OK, going to get a tape measure and post my stats. Current bra gapes at the cups and straps slip down. Don't go away......

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 21:45:01

Me too. I've given so many clues grin

SamraLee Fri 01-Mar-13 21:47:11

I'm short and so the extra fabric above where the underwire is is annoying and I think the band is a little tight because it's a bit uncomfortable, but I haven't worn a real bra in ages. I mostly just wear sports bras because I couldn't/can't be bothered getting a maternity bra and I'm breastfeeding and midwife told me I HAVE to wear a bra or my breasts will fall off I would get mastitis. The cup is a little loose at the top, but it's unpadded which is strange because all my bras have been padded. Is there a good kind of bra anyone can recommend for saggy breasts? I've always been a bit droopy, but then lost a bit of weight and they are much worse now. I want to feel sexy for my husband, he loves the way I look, but I'd like to see myself the way he sees me.

TooExtraImmatureCheddar Fri 01-Mar-13 21:50:13

Bravissimo in Edinburgh. I'm worried about the price because she doesn't have much spare cash, but thought perhaps I could give it to her as a birthday present (birthday in April). And point out that if she finds one good bra she can look for others online. I might email her the fit guide once I've broached the subject, but otherwise it's a bit like saying 'your bra looks like crap!' without any gentle lead-in. I'm going to say something, though - will pick on my other 2 friends as well so it isn't all about her. We've all been friends for 17-odd years so should be relatively unthreatening, I hope.

forgossake Fri 01-Mar-13 21:50:59

Hi SC and everyone. This thread is fab.
I measure 36 underneath and 44 over. All my bras are 36/38C and I find shopping for them is torture.
I had a fitting in M&S about a year ago and they came up with the size I always wear but we still couldn't find a bra that actually fitted well.
Would love to know what size you suggest.
Looking forward to trying the scooping in the morning as well grin

Samra sad I think we have all been through the "wtf has happened to me" stage!

Where do you mean by the extra fabric? Sorry, just trying to work out what it is that's bothering you so we can suggest solutions.

It sounds like you might possibly be one back size too small - which bra is it you are trying? If you are a little empty at the top then certain shapes will be prone to gaping.

SamraLee Give us some measurements and I/we can suggest styles.

dougal73 Fri 01-Mar-13 21:55:17

Hello bra guru's smile. I am a big boobed girl who until being measured correctly as a 36F in Bravissimo was wearing a 42C (good old M&S);). However that was 5 years ago and 2 children, BF etc plus never getting round to losing baby weight has made my boobs mahoosive. I am too shy to get them measured and am currently wearing a 40HH (eeeek) but it does not feel quite right. My measurements are 41 and 54 blushes . Thank you in advance x

Now...I appreciate that some ladies have daintier boobs which don't go very far round,!

SamraLee Fri 01-Mar-13 21:59:29

If you feel where the underwire is and you push the underwire down, so it's moving toward the middle bit. I suppose if the underwire was up further it would be the underwire.

this bra is the one I bought and it's a bit empty at the top, but nicely fitting on the rest of it.

Thank you very much for your help, I really do apperciate it.

That bra would look really odd under a tshirt. Like you'd stuck a couple of oranges underneath it.

Hello Dougal73!

How is the back feeling on the 40 if you put it on back to front? Although you measure right for a 40, sometimes ladies who are slightly "squishy of torso" need to go down further in the back to get adequate support. In a 40 back, I would think you may need a J/JJ however it may be the back that is the issue

SamraLee Fri 01-Mar-13 22:04:25

Sorry didn't notice you ask for measurements. My measurements are 35 under and 43 around breasts. Trying on a 36E at the moment.

dougal73 Fri 01-Mar-13 22:05:42

The back feels quite comfortable when back to front, so maybe it's a bit big. I definitely feel that my boobs are a bit too big for the cups when I do the scoop thing! Hmmmm a J/JJ OMG

Ah, do you mean the wire is shorter then the "channel" it sits in, so there is either spare fabric in the middle, or spare at the sides depending on how you position the wire?

And, double ah - moulded bra. Unfortunately, whilst they are wonderful for some things they are the worst bras for gaping as they have no ability to flex/mould to your shape. So if you don't match the bra perfectly, it gapes.

I wonder if you might be better with something which isn't moulded. I think the Alana is quite good for full on bottom boobs as it is quite tight across the top (full on top ladies don't tend to like it). You might also get on better with something a little lower cut at the top/sides.

dougal73 Fri 01-Mar-13 22:06:26

Do bras that big actually exist anywhere?

CelticPromise Fri 01-Mar-13 22:06:26

Forgoss try 36FF, or if you are ' squishy' maybe even a 34G.

TooExtraImmatureCheddar - the ladies at Bravissimo in Edinburgh are lovely and very "gentle" with newbies. I have taken a very shy friend there before.

forgossake try a 36F!

CelticPromise Fri 01-Mar-13 22:08:17

Samra on your measurements I would start with a 34G.

DoubleLifeIsALifeHalved Fri 01-Mar-13 22:10:20

Hello! I'm late to this thread as I spent two days reading the last one! Have skipped quite a few pages so sorry if I'm asking you to repeat things.

Am off to find a tape measure but first:

- does a really tight back strap actually hurt/ put pressure on your back? I'd be worried about that?
- I've got very very soft boobs & bust tissue which always end up getting squashed or cut into two / four etc. any idea what shapes might help? I used to get plunge bras when younger as that stopped the top of the cup cutting my boobs in two misshapen lumps but I'm much fatter now and bigger boobs so don't really have a solution

Yes, FORGOSS< 36FF! sorry! Thanks Celtic!

Dougal, that sounds like maybe you should try a 38 back. Maybe try a 40J and a 38JJ to start? They are OK sizes to get - I have linked to a few big bra retailers upthread smile

Hello DoubleLife!

A tight band (i.e. one that fits!) is actually good for your back. If they are too loose, then you wind up hunching your shoulders and getting pain. A good bra improves posture so is beneficial.
The right size bra will help with most of the cutting in half issues, but you probably want to avoid most plunges due to the potential for falling out! A higher central gore will be better.

forgossake Fri 01-Mar-13 22:15:31

Thank you so much thanks
Very excited at this news and am going to brave the shops over the weekend.

SamraLee Fri 01-Mar-13 22:20:46

Yes Statistic, that is exactly what I meant about the fabric! I'm a bit clueless as to what bras to get, I think I might be better off going into the store and trying some on. I think I'll have to have my husband take me to Manchester into the Bravissimo store, he's always looking for an excuse to buy me some things, I absolutely hate shopping. That way I will at least get to try different styles without having to order and send back.

Celtic are you sure about the 34G? I'm trying a 36E right now and feel like the band might be a bit tight. Maybe I'm just bass ackwards as they say...

DoubleLifeIsALifeHalved Fri 01-Mar-13 22:21:59

Ok, found tape & after hanging over in all sorts of odd positions trying to pin down the slippery pendulous nooks I think I am:

36.5 and 45

(And currently wear a 38D and a 40C)

Sooo please announce my size?!

Samra, if the cup isn't fitting right then it can make the back feel too small.

It would definitely be worth trying different styles. There may well be a moulded that does work for you - it's a bit of trial and error to find the one with the right shape. Bravissimo have quite a few - one may suit.

Itsmynamechange Fri 01-Mar-13 22:23:58

Could someone 'do' me?

Under 33"

Over 46"

Currently in 34H/34J/32HH bras


Abra1d Fri 01-Mar-13 22:24:14

You bra-fitters are so generous with your time.

DoubleLfeIsALifeHalved....try a 36G as a start point!

CelticPromise Fri 01-Mar-13 22:24:29

Have you tried the band back to front ignoring the cups? If the cup is too small the band will feel too tight. You are between band sizes but most women who are find that the smaller size gives better support.

itsmynamechange start with a 32HH! Sounds like you are in the right sizes already, are you having any issues?

CelticPromise Fri 01-Mar-13 22:26:28

namechange I make you a 32JJ on measurements so you're not miles away. Do your bras fit?

CelticPromise Fri 01-Mar-13 22:27:13

Perhaps I can't count, it's late confused

OH FFS I really can't count tonight! What is with that? Yes, a JJ not aa HH. <slaps self>

CelticPromise Fri 01-Mar-13 22:31:05

x post! Sleep needed grin

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 22:31:38

Is it my shift?

TooImmatureCheddar Pre-book your appointment if you can, especially if you're looking to go tomorrow. Everyone's just got paid so it will be busy! Let them know that she is shy and self conscious and they will make sure the fitter is super sensitive.

DoubleLifeIsALifeHalved Fri 01-Mar-13 22:35:08

Oooh ok 36G thank you!

any tips on what shape would be good for my soft & squishy & floppy norks? Most of the volume is underneath & I suspect under arm pits, and there is a considerable distance they need lifting up & out, they always were soft & didn't hold their shape but post bf they are basically hideous.

Currently am wearing m&s breast feeding bras (in spite of it being a year since bf!) and on the loosest rung at the backago try & be comfortable, & totally let out at the shoulders as hurt to pull boobs up with shoulder straps. in other words... Awful situation!

Oh and my boobs are rather low slung & I am tall so I've had problems finding bras that don't hurt my shoulders.

Amazing experts you are, thank you!

Itsmynamechange Fri 01-Mar-13 22:42:42

Thanks Stat & Celtic

My bras ride up (I can shrug them downwards) and they leave terrible marks under my bust. They are soft cup nursing bras if that makes a big difference?

DoubleLife Try Panache Andorra but you'll need to go at least a cup bigger. It's got stretch lace at the top of the cup. The wires are very long on a shorter torso but sound ideal for your body shape.

Another good one is Fantasie Elodie. Will have to go the opposite way with cup sizing though, it's huge!

CelticPromise Fri 01-Mar-13 22:48:17

Soft cup bras won't do you any favours in terms of support in cup size like JJ. If they are riding up that suggests the band is too big, which is likely in the 34s I should think. That will also lead to your boobs sagging and the rubbing underneath I should think. Nursing bras tend to get worn a lot and therefore a bit stretched and saggy too IME.

CelticPromise Fri 01-Mar-13 22:49:09

That was in reply to namechange sorry.

Sorrel Are you around for a bit, I really should go to bed but can't tear myself away.

Working at the pit face tomorrow smile

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 22:53:31

Yeah, I'm on the wine a night owl me grin

inchoccyheaven Fri 01-Mar-13 22:56:29

Please can you tell me what I should be. I am 35 under and 40/41 round. ty smile

<counts on fingers> start with a 34F, also try 34E, 36DD

I can never understand why people say 'but I'm really flat chested', when they have just measured a 7 inch (for example) difference between under and overbust.

Serious cognitive dissonance going on!

choccy try a 34E/34F

(sighs with relief at getting same as SC in a x-post) grin

Itsmynamechange Fri 01-Mar-13 23:07:48

I just bought an underwired 32J - a Panache Fiesta - hope it will fit better than my saggy nursing bras!

Samra the bra you've linked to has a slightly stretchy cup so it usually fits better a size down. If that doesn't fix it, it's probably a style issue. Book a fitting rather than going it alone, and take the offending bra with you. A good fitter should be able to fix things.

inchoccyheaven Fri 01-Mar-13 23:10:00

Thanks Stats and Travel, I did use to wear 34d but as the weight went on increased it to a 34dd now a 36d but they didn't always seem right.

Sorry, that one's bugging me! Need a virtual fitting room where I can see you <bet it happens somewhere already>

It does actually married - the butterfly collection in Canada do Skype fittings!

DoubleLifeIsALifeHalved Fri 01-Mar-13 23:27:24

Oooh thankyou!

Just looking at brastop & some are in the sale so just wondered if you had any thoughts on the fit of:

Curvy Kate princess bra
Curvy Kate tease me bra
Fantasie Sarah bra (though says elodie in the description)

And they do have an elodie bra but not in my size, or one cup size down as suggested - should I go for a 35E, 36GG, or 38F or give it a miss?

Thanks again!

2anddone Fri 01-Mar-13 23:31:21

I LOVE this thread I am a 34 under and 46 over. What size should I try currently wearing 34f and not comfy at all!

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 23:33:40

Ok, try a 34HH.

However , how do the bands feel on your current 34s if you put them on back to front?

A 36F or FF is your likely size in Elodie or one of it's variants. Anything bigger is likely to drown you!

CK Princess is generous in the band but less so in the cup. 36GG/34H? Ditto the Tease Me. I've had the Tease Me before, very wide but shallow style. Comfy but the only bra I've ever had where the wire has come out hmm

2anddone Fri 01-Mar-13 23:36:34

Thanks they feel a bit tight for about a week a month but other than that ok

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 23:42:01

Ok, stick with the 34 then (unless you can swivel it around or get more than two fingers under the band?) and go up quite a few cups!

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 23:43:14

Oops, did you try it back to front? You any really test the band the right way round as the cups distort the fit (if they're too small)

OrangeLily Fri 01-Mar-13 23:48:16

Tooextraimmature cheddar. Bravissimo in Edinburgh is brilliant and is now all upstairs if u hadn't been in recently. They've been fab for me!

I have someone at my work too I really want to wrangle in to a decent bra. Looks like two rugby balls down there and just looks so uncomfortable. Won't actually say anything though smile

DoubleLifeIsALifeHalved Fri 01-Mar-13 23:50:53

Right, am buying some now! Eek, I can't believe I am buying this size smile

Oooh I hope one fits, am buying 5 so I can have a good chance of finding one success.

How can you NOT say anything? I'd have to!

I met with some friends recently and one had a bit of double boobage going on. She sighed when I looked pointedly at her and said 'I can't believe I forgot to wear my good bra- I knew I was coming out with the bra police' grin

SorrelForbes Fri 01-Mar-13 23:57:01

I do a lot of am-dram (totally outing myself now) and am always nagging the other dancers to get new bras. During the last show I measured 20+ girls. Most of whom were about a 28E! They looked like this shock

Yay Double! Do report back, we need to know we're getting it right.

I AM going to bed now. It's nearly Saturday and I have an arduous shift ahead.

Sorrel You ARE me, aren't you grin

SorrelForbes Sat 02-Mar-13 00:09:11

Possibly wink

HeffaFlump Sat 02-Mar-13 00:17:15

Hope advice is still been given as I've never had a proper fitting bra , just taken measurements unsure whether correctly though
36 under & 53 on the biggest part
Currently in a 38hh

Still here... blush

HeffaFlump That's looking like a 36L from where I'm sitting. Before I say more, what bra brand/style are you currently in?

HeffaFlump Sat 02-Mar-13 00:34:28

in one from debenhams , I've never heard of that size sad

lookoveryourshouldernow Sat 02-Mar-13 00:47:31

...unless someone has already mentioned it - when is the iphone "Size Me" app coming out ???? I would buy it !!!!

Don't panic!
I'd suggest trying either Alana in a 36L or Tango in a 36K.
The third option which I won't link to for now is the Panache Jasmine, probably in a 36K.

They all give different shapes and you may find one style suits you better than the other. However, for really big boobs, they are the the best on the market at the moment in terms of fit and support.

Although two of the styles only go to K when I've said L, they fit quite differently and may actually work better.

HeffaFlump Sat 02-Mar-13 01:06:05

Thanks married I will have a try

SyraCusa Sat 02-Mar-13 01:25:27

Just wanted to emerge from lurking on these threads, to give thanks to the really helpful people spending so much time posting advice.

Not just for the better-endowed ladies! I've been wearing a 34B since I was a teenager. Realised I'd put on at least two stone matured in the last 15 years, and getting uncomfortable, bought a couple of 36Bs. Still not great, riding up all the time, no more support than a vest top.

Seeing these threads inspired me to measure myself (with a metal DIY measure, all I had in the house blush), and got 35/40, so with the info and feedback from SC, Sorrel, Celtic and others, thought worth going into Bravissimo to get fitted for the first time in my life. Came home with 3 bras, a 34D and two 34DDs (!), and I can't say how much better I feel and look! These ones actually do something, instead of just sitting there. Thanks to SC's tips on scooping, I now know the bits bulging out of the sides and bottom are breast tissue, and can be comfortably filling out my bra instead of suffering from digging-in wires.

Thank you ladies - your advice made me realise even us smaller-chested benefit from a good bra!

KeatsiePie Sat 02-Mar-13 05:55:47

Sorrel thanks again. I am so excited. Love hearing back from everyone who's had a chance to go out and get lovely, properly-fitting new bras!

pnin Sat 02-Mar-13 07:38:31

i've spent hours reading this fascinating!

i have bras ranging from 34-32 dd -e but they're never quite right, apart from my amazing anita breastfeeding bras.

i'm a 29 under with 36/37 boobs. i've lost loads of fullness from 2 pregnancies and 5 years breastfeeding and going from a size 14 to a 6-8!

that make me a 30e or f or 28f?

i feel an internet splurge coming on. any ercommendations? avoid plunge bras?

Pnin yes, that's the place to start!,

I am still determined to find the time to find a bra that fits. But I'm still flummoxed by the back fat thing.

SorrelForbes Sat 02-Mar-13 07:59:58

It does sound somewhat counterintuitive to cure back fat by wearing a smaller band, but as long as the cups are big enough (and the scooping is vigorous) then it does work. I would have massive back fat in a 34DD but have none in a 30GG.

Claudiecat Sat 02-Mar-13 08:10:19

Can I just add my thanks to all the ladies giving advice? I've been lurking on the thread and last night I had a total lightbulb moment! I've noticed over the years that my bras aren't really supporting me, they just sit there. I'm currently wearing a 36B. Since I started wearing that size I've suffered from awful shoulder/ back ache on my right hand side. I've even developed a groove on my shoulder. Have never connected the two until now!!! Dur!!!
Measured myself last night: 32 under, 37/38 over.
Is that a 32F? Can't get my head round it.
Thanks in anticipation.

Hi ClaudieCat! Yes, I would suggest you start with a 32F and a 32FF and work from there.

Claudiecat Sat 02-Mar-13 08:14:08

Thank you Statistically. My sisters will laugh their socks off when I tell them but I shall spread the word, then see who's laughing.

pnin Try a Cleo Juna in a 28F and FF. And yes, if you're very soft, plunges will not work well, you'll overflow in the centre whilst having space in the top of the cups.

Morning Sorrel grin

Morning to you too SC smile

Looks like we all have a busy day ahead.

I may return here late tonight, probably with hot feet and a fried brain!

Claudiecat Sat 02-Mar-13 08:26:30

Just told DH. He's sceptical to say the least! Haha

SorrelForbes Sat 02-Mar-13 08:29:50

Morning married (what are you up to today I wonder? Some sort of rehearsing?) [nosey]

SorrelForbes Sat 02-Mar-13 08:31:50

Claudie - he may be sceptical now but try boring him with explaining the cup/back relativity thing and hopefully he'll become a bra convert as well.

My DH is quite good at spotting a badly fitting bra.

blibblibs Sat 02-Mar-13 08:53:50


You 'did' me last night and I'm going to attempt to go to Bravisimmo today, should I phone and make an appointment or can I just turn up?

(poorly children would mean turning up easier!)

TheBriefestNameChange Sat 02-Mar-13 08:59:00

I think I need an intervention but I despair of anyone being able to find me a bra that makes my boobs look normal!

I measure 35 under bust and 43 if I bend over and measure round them. But I have what I believe are called tubular breasts. There is no breast tissue on the top of them and they are very widely spaced (there is nearly a 2 inch gap between them in the centre of my chest). When I don't have a bra on they literally just hang down with huge areola on the end that point down to the floor blush. I have no children and they have always been like this.

The only bra I have managed to find that makes them look normal is a cheap one from Primark that is massively padded and promises to "increase you by two cup sizes." because it is so padded underneath it sort of lifts them up and makes them look "normal" shaped. In any other bra I have to stuff chicken fillets in to get any real shape. I wear this bra in a 36d because it is the largest cup size they do but I am forever grabbing the front of the cups and pulling because I look down and realised I have spilt out over them. I also have to go to the loo several times a day and sort of lift them up in the cup as they sag downwards and I get more and more flat chested looking as the day goes on blush

I am also apple shaped and have a 38 inch waist so I generally end up looking like I have a huge stomach in comparison to my boobs with any other bra on.

Until I'm done losing weight (it's coming off slowly) and I can afford a boob job, can anyone offer me any words of wisdom?

Sorry for the major spilling of TMI but it does feel cathartic to share what I could never admit to in real life... sad

SorrelForbes Sat 02-Mar-13 09:10:39

Hi briefest. Ok, have you got a Bravissimo locally? Or a Debenhams,HoF, JL or a good independent? All good starting points for some trying on sessions.

My suggestion is to try a 34G, 34FF, 36FF and a 36F. However I suspect the 34 might be better for you.

It sounds as if your current bras are giving you very little support. You need something like a balconette, possibly with some light padding to give you some lift and fullness. I'm sure SC, married Etc will be along with suggestions for specific bras.

SorrelForbes Sat 02-Mar-13 09:11:24

blin. It'll probably be busy but I've never been turned away without an appt.

Hi thebriefestnamechange

I will admit, I don't have a huge amount of knowledge about this so hopefully MarriedNotDead will appear soon as she has great knowledge of individual bras and might be able to recommend the best thing for you.

Based on what you are describing from a sizing perspective you almost certainly need a bigger cup and possibly a smaller back - I would think having adequate support coming from the back would be extremely important for you. One bra which springs to mind that might be good for you is the Ewa Michalak PL Lilia (I think there are other colours too) which has removable pads in a little "pouch" at the front. Her bras are great for pushing you in and up anyway, and combined with the padding may be the way to go. I think this runs small in the back so would stick with the 36, but probably try a couple of cup sizes up - I'd try around an F cup ish

TheBriefestNameChange Sat 02-Mar-13 09:22:35

I have a House of Fraser near me so I can go and have a look in there this afternoon. I went to Bravissimo when I was looking for a bra to go under my wedding dress and the lady I saw told me that the Primark one I was wearing "looks like it fits you ok" and was very keen to sell me a strapless in the same size. I bought the strapless in a cup size up and wore it with two chicken fillets under each boob on my wedding day! The whole set up was most uncomfortable but at least I had boobs for a day!

I seem to struggle to find padding in cup sizes above a D but I will venture out later and do some trying on.

Thanks for the suggestion Statistically. Would I find that bra in a department store or would I need to look online?

What about something like this

The Ewa Michalak is only available online unfortunately however they really do lift you up and together, without being too low in the middle. You might also like something like the Curvy Kate Tease Me - it lift you inwards very well but has a relatively wide central gore so it might feel more comfortable than the style of bra which is trying to make your breasts actually touch = which may be pushing them too far from their natural position?

For strapless, try the Wonderbra Ultimate - it has no wires but the shaping could be excellent for you

Hi thebriefest namechange

A trip to a decent store such as Bravissimo would be good but failing that, I'd suggest trying their Alana and any Cleo balconette. With boobs that have less volume, the size that you need can vary wildly from bra to bra. From your description, I'd steer away from plunges and as an apple shape myself, I wear bras that stick my boobs out as far in front as possible!

Sorrel I will PM you wink

Furball Sat 02-Mar-13 09:57:13

Me 36 GG bra turned up this morning and I don't have quite enough stuffing to fill it on the top half, but do on the bottom. It was good round on the band

What is the next size down? is it 36G? and then is 36 FF?

I need to go to a shops so will head for M & S and have a try on, though I'm not to confident about what the right fit should be as I've been wearing wrong all my bra wearing days. Is it a case of I will just know when it's right?

Which bra did you get Furball, and have you scooped like a possessed woman?

HellesBelles396 Sat 02-Mar-13 10:20:08

I wasn't sure whether to measure underbra in 90degree position so did both:
under: either 36 or 38
over: 45
I have wide breasts which are slightly empty for two weeks a month and much fuller the other two weeks during which time my nipples are like bullets so I tend to wear a moulded cup to -- protect others from harm-- disguise them.

Go with the underbust upright - so start off with a 36G and work from there. I know what you mean about the variable boob size, mine are a bit like that too. I have a range of sizes!

mamarara Sat 02-Mar-13 10:22:39

Please help me bra fairies. My measurements are 32 under bust and 39.5 over bust doing the leaning forward thing (much to husband and 3 year old's amusement).
What size bra do I need?
Currently wearing 36b and it so uncomfy I go braless whenever possible.
Thank you!

HellesBelles396 Sat 02-Mar-13 10:24:01

sc - thank you.

I always buy 3 or 4 of the same bra (when I find a comfy one) so I don't need to make early morning choices - do I really have to start putting thought into this?

mamarara I'm not surprised that is uncomfortable. Try starting with a 32F and 32FF but have a read of the fitting advice in the early posts so you know what to look for.

HellesBelles...I love bras, so having a selection isn't a chore ;) However, I find. I have bras that fit throughout the month because I shop for bras quite frequently. Some styles are more flexible though so it depends how big your difference is.

MrsKoala Sat 02-Mar-13 10:36:52

Morning boob gurus. You helped me loads (40/42a toa 36e! Thanks m&s hmm ) but now i want to spread the love and treat Mum to some lovely undies for Mothers day. I have just wrestled her to the ground and ripped off the nightie to reveal 37 under bust and 43 over. She is currently wearing 38b/c.

I have suggested a 36e but she is point blank refusing to try anything on that is over a d because she 'doesn't want big boobs' (erm surely you have the boobs you have the words on the label wont change that!) She tried scooping in her bra but said it made her 'too big'. Any suggetions on what size and styles wont make her feel like (as she puts it) 'Titsalina Bumsquirt'?

janknitti Sat 02-Mar-13 10:38:02

Please help ! I never post on MN but this thread inspired me......

I'm 36 under and 43 over what size am I please?

I am 39wks & 2 days PG and wearing the same non flattering maternity bra since 20 weeks - thanks ladies !

Yes indeed mrskoala, she's falling for the old "anything above a d is huge" chat.

The strange thing is that a good bra actually makes your breasts look much neater. But I suspect she will want to avoid anything too cleavage-y, so something like a good balcony would be the way to go I suspect.

jan. try a 36F

MrsKoala Sat 02-Mar-13 10:46:35

Thanks SC - is 36e right as a starting point tho <if so i feel very proud of my new bra knowledge!>

MrsKoala Sat 02-Mar-13 10:48:48

oh and i can't find the excellent list of what makes a bra a good fit. is it on this thread or could you pm it to me? (if you can cut and paste of course - i don't expect you to re-type it)

Sure mrsKoala will paste it below, and there is also a new fitting guide on the blog which still needs some work


Testing the band and cup
To test the band size, put the bra on back to front on the loosest hooks. If you can breathe but if feels tight and you can only fit two fingers underneath the wire at the front, then that's the correct back size for you. If it's so tight it's unbearable then go up a size.

The cup will differ much more between brands and styles than the back. Put the bra round the correct way and pop the shoulder straps up, lean forward then take your right hand and put it inside your left cup. Reach right round under your armpit/towards your back and scoop all the backfat/escapage forward in to the cup of the bra. This may require vigour!

Repeat on the other side.

Then put the shoulder straps up and adjust as necessary (not too tight as it's the back that should be doing most of the supporting work). If after scooping you find that you have some bulging over the cup and four-boobage going on, this means you need to go up one or more cup sizes. Keep going up through the cup sizes until all your breast tissue is firmly in place. Once you have put your bra straps up you may well need to repeat the scooping described above but with the straps in place. Breast tissue goes surprisingly far round under the arms which most people don't realise so often their wires are actually sitting on breast tissue.

A good fitting bra…
If your bra is a good fit after doing this it should:

•Be worn on the loosest hook (when new). If you can fasten it on the tightest hook then try a back size lower.

•The band should be completely horizontal

•You should only be able to fit a couple of fingers under the front of the bra. If you can get more than that, or you can pull it more than an inch or so away from your body at the back, it is TOO BIG!

•If you raise your arms, the back should not really move - no riding up

•The wires should be entirely encasing your breast tissue - breast tissue goes surprisingly far back and a lot of people don't realise this. If you feel where the wire is sitting under your arm then it should be sitting on a fairly firm surface.

•The central gore (where the wires meet) should sit flat between your boobs. if it is being pushed away, then the cup is probably too small (and the back possibly too big as well)

•There should be absolutely no lumps over the top of the cup. Take a fitted t shirt with you to put over the top of the bra and stand side on to a mirror and watch as you breathe in. If you have a bit of a bulge only when you breathe in, you probably need to go up 1 cup. If it is visible when breathing out then it's probably more like two cups or more.

•The cup shouldn't gape. If it does, it may be too big or it may be the wrong shape of bra for you. Moulded cups are particularly bad for this as they don't adapt to your shape.

•The shoulder straps shouldn't be painful and digging in. Most of the support should come from the back. If you find that you can't get enough support without the straps being so short they hurt the bra isn't for you. Most likely it's too big in the back but it may also just be a bra that doesn't suit you.

•and on that note; not every brand works for every person. There are quite distinct differences in shape between brands which mean a particular brand may just not suit the shape of your breasts.

Nonky Sat 02-Mar-13 10:52:27

Hi pleeeeeaassse help me :-( I've just measured 40 smallest and 48 largest. Do bras even come this big? :-( what size should I try?

MrsKoala Can you either snip the labels out / cheekily change the hangers, or show her the picture of all the different DD cup bras, to show it's a relative measure?

Her boobs will look much smaller in a correctly fitting bra.

Nonky just got you over on t'other thread!

mrskoala the picture of the different d cups is good here

Nonky I make that a 40G, but you might want to try a 38GG too, depending on how 'squidgy' your torso is.

CelticPromise Sat 02-Mar-13 10:56:20

janknitti it's worth saying that it's not necessary to wear a soft bra when pregnant or breastfeeding. It's fine to wear wires if the bra fits properly. Anita make underwired nursing bras if that's something you'd be interested in. (Am in early pregnancy myself and have no intention of letting my 32Gs sag in a soft cup!)

Nonky Sat 02-Mar-13 10:58:18

Oh thank you thank you thank you!!! I love mumsnet :-) xxxx I shall report back

MrsKoala Sat 02-Mar-13 11:04:36

Thanks so much. Sorry to be a pain but can i just confirm that 36e is where i should be starting?

I don't want to be wildly off as she is already only humouring me and will not be patient enough to try loads on.

we are off to Bravissimo this avo.

If she's 37/43 I would try a 36 e and f - but try to get bravissimo to do the fitting as they will be quick!

SorrelForbes Sat 02-Mar-13 11:12:15

Good luck Mrs Koala. I would also suggest that you try and get the fitter to fit your mum without mentioning sizes until the end, when of course she'll be totally delighted at her nerw boobs!

onemoredayplease Sat 02-Mar-13 11:19:15

Help! I'm a 36 followed by 46. So bloody uncomfortable in my current bra which is a 38f . What should I be wearing?!

I think I might spontaneously combust M&S video

The fitted bra gives her zero support at all, it's just sitting there.

AllBellyandBoobs Sat 02-Mar-13 11:21:06

Ooh, can I join this party a little late please? I measure 73cm under books and 97/98cm around boobs. I always wore a 30gg pre pregnancy and am wearing them again despite still breast feeding. they seem okayish but i wonder if i need a bigger cup size. Also, they tend to rub around my armpits. Don't know if this is relevant but the bit from my back to my shoulders seems very short and so I always have to have the straps on the tightest setting so they don't slip down. Thanks in advance for any words of wisdom smile

AllBellyandBoobs Sat 02-Mar-13 11:21:57

Boobs not books, not sure what my book measurements are

Artesia Sat 02-Mar-13 11:24:45

Just to add a huge thank you from me- inspired by this thread, I went to be measured properly(ie not M&S!) and went from a 34B to a 30D.

Am VERY proud of my new D cups not so much the back flab though and DP is very impressed!

That makes you roughly 28.75"/38.5". At those measurements, it is probably worth considering a 28 back, try a 28GG and 28H to start with and follow the fit guidance from there. The straps slipping down can often be an indication of the back being too loose - I am also short torso-d and if the back is even slightly too big it's bye bye straps

SorrelForbes Sat 02-Mar-13 11:26:45

onemoredayplease Try a 36GG. How does the band on your 38 feel back to front? If it's very big then you might want to consider a 34H.

SpicyPear Sat 02-Mar-13 11:26:53

Ooh statistically that's awful. All the poor viewers making an effort to sort their bra issues and being told to add four or five! That would put me in a 38 band. Ridiculous.

onemoredayplease Sat 02-Mar-13 11:29:36

Thanks. I have the 38 on the final fastening now. In an old sports bra today as feeling so desperate! At least this holds all of me in grin

SorrelForbes Sat 02-Mar-13 11:30:32

Artesia You need to keep scooping the back fat in. Sounds to me like you still need a bigger cup.

AllBellyandBoobs Sat 02-Mar-13 11:31:25

Thank you! I shall order some new bras today. If there was a mumsnet bra shop then you would have made a financial killing with all this help

stacysmom Sat 02-Mar-13 11:38:17

My arrived! Goodbye M&S 36B... Hello lovely 30FFs! I have 'Defying Gravity' swirling around in my head now. Just waiting for DH to notice... Can't be long, competing with a set of new speakers though hmm

Try sitting on the speakers smile 36b to 30FF is a big change, how does it feell!

Artesia Sat 02-Mar-13 11:42:05

Yikes! Thanks Sorrel, will give it a go!

stacysmom Sat 02-Mar-13 11:42:09

Order arrived... Over-excited!

stacysmom Sat 02-Mar-13 11:43:39

If feels uplifting!

SorrelForbes Sat 02-Mar-13 11:44:20

I bet it does grin

corkythecat Sat 02-Mar-13 11:45:58

I am wearing my new 30C bra today (was originally wearing 32 or 34A) It is so comfortable!
Thank you, thank you, thank you, wonderful bra ladies thanks

WhyAmIWeirdedOut Sat 02-Mar-13 11:48:39

Could you work mine out please.

32 under bust and 40 round. I'm sure I'm in the wrong size, I always have 4 boobs confused

whyamiweirdedout try a 32FF to start with

HeavenlyWineandRoses Sat 02-Mar-13 11:50:38

Just measured. I'm 27 under bust and 35 around boobs. Generally wearing a range of sizes but today's bra is 34b. Thanks in advance!

heavenly try a 28F/FF to start with. You might find them fractionally loose on the back but 26s are not readily available yet. You could combine the 28 with a Rixie Clip (ebay...) if you feel it needs to be snugger.

SorrelForbes Sat 02-Mar-13 11:51:56

HeavenlyWineandRoses Try a 28F/FF. You could probably do with a 26FF/G but alas, they are not to be found (unless you go for custom made).

CelticPromise Sat 02-Mar-13 11:53:11

Heavenly you'd ideally try a 26G but 26s are very rare (although Panache are bringing one out very soon apparently). Try a 28FF and see- if the band is loose it's quite easy to alter if you have the cup right.

CelticPromise Sat 02-Mar-13 11:54:06

Bra chorus!

That's brilliant, results in triplicate!

WhyAmIWeirdedOut Sat 02-Mar-13 12:00:01

I've been in a 34 DD, no wonder my boobs are everywhere! Thank you very much thanks

singingsoprano Sat 02-Mar-13 12:02:48

Can I just add my thanks to all the lovely bra ladiessmile. After receiving advice re-my measurements, I have gone from poorly fitting M & S 42DD to playtex 40GG. The difference is amazing! I am off to bravissimo in the next few weeks, too. thanks

MrsKoala Sat 02-Mar-13 12:03:22

out of interest, has anyone alerted m&s to all these threads? Perhaps they would like to know 'britains number one website for vipers' has unilaterally blown their bra 'expertise' out of the water. If they just saw the amount of posters who have been uncomfortable and upset by their 'service' i wonder how they would respond?

Should someone at MN HQ forward these links?

CelticPromise Sat 02-Mar-13 12:04:51

MrsKoala check out the Better Bra Campaign thread. Doesn't sound like they're taking notice yet though...

We did tweet MumsnetTowers but no response/RT. More support needed (pardon the pun!)

FizzlingFireboxes Sat 02-Mar-13 12:21:49

Just want to say, thankyou so much to SC and this thread,
I've just taken delivery of around 12 bras to try, had been wearing a 38DD uncomfortably for years, thanks to your help I've just put on a 38F and what a difference!! :D I feel like a new woman, no more back fat and four boob effect! yay thankyou sooo much :D

Trazzletoes Sat 02-Mar-13 12:23:52

sc do you have a #? Am on twitter...

twitter feed is Trying out #WeDontAdd4Anymore but need something better really. Also tweeting blog posts which you could point at M&S - apparently bad fitting is an isolated incident!

SpicyPear Sat 02-Mar-13 12:32:26

I'm in the right size now but wondered if someone could help with styles. My boobs are broad at the base, with breast tissue going from the centre of my chest to almost right under my arms! Which styles/ makes should I look at that have wires that go quite high at the outer edge to hold it all in? Curvy Kate Tease Me is best I've found so far.

Hmm, similar to me...I Love the Bravissimo Betsy Bow, the Alana, and I quite like the half cups (Demi diva, rococco charm, paradiso plunge etc)

SpicyPear Sat 02-Mar-13 12:48:40

Super, thanks. Will take a look.

Furball Sat 02-Mar-13 12:54:15

statiscallychallenged - it was a Elomi, Caitlyn, Full Cup, in 36 GG twas lovely too, yes to scooping but it still didn't fill the top part of the cup

EMUZ Sat 02-Mar-13 13:08:56

I have two arrived this morning. The panache jasmine is gorgeous and a perfect fit. The panache sienna just doesn't fit right, the wires don't lie flat so that's one for eBay!

Fast Sat 02-Mar-13 13:09:42

If anyone has badly-fitting bras that they are no longer going to be wearing please consider taking them to Oxfam, they send them to Senegal smile

ToothGah Sat 02-Mar-13 13:11:33

Love this thread!

Now, I've just done the 90degree measuring: 36 band and 42 while bent over. Upright round the fullest part is only 40 though (which is what I'd measured before).

Now, I can't understand this. I'm currently wearing a 38B and it gapes at the top of the cups. But according to the measurements when I'm bent over I should be in a 36E

Surely that can't be right if my B cup I'm wearing gapes at the top? I've got no boobs to fill anything bigger, surely?

The B cup bra I'm wearing btw is moulded and stiff/padded (as I feel lacking in the booby dept so I like to wear something that gives me a bit of shape.)

Am I a freak? Am I going to break the thread? I can't see this working for me.

DP on the other hand is quite keen to go bra shopping to see if I'm really an E cup! Just can't see it myself but I'm happy to be proved wrong.

eski2606 Sat 02-Mar-13 13:12:30

Please help!

I've just measured and I'm 30 inches then 36.5... I can't work it out. M&S gave me a 34c last week which is currently digging in undert arms (and bruising!)

Thank you

catpark Sat 02-Mar-13 13:22:08

I measure 29 inch under and using that 90 degree thing over is 35 and a half inch. What size do you reckon I am.

M&S told me I was a 32 B. Refused to but that one as my boobs were hanging out. I'm only a size 8 so looked rediculous ! I need a bit of uplift as well.


sparkle12mar08 Sat 02-Mar-13 13:24:53

Afternoon all! I've just ordered nearly £200 of stuff from brastop to try, but am thinking I may have got some of the sizings wrong. I'm currently in a 32F moulded Gorgeous (Debenhams) which gives me a fabulous shape but can pull it away by a good inch and a half, and can also swizzle it round my body fairly easily (I fasten at the front and spin). It is however a rather old and battered bra, which may explain the stretch. Cup wise I have extremely close set boobs and vigorous scooping in my current size does lead to a very small overspill. I'm thinking I may need to try some 30FF's and 30G's as well?

tooth you haven't broken it at all. It's quite common to have the issues you mentioned when the back is too big as it just doesn't hold the bra up. First of, fasten that 38 on the tightest hook and SCOOP like crazy. Bet you have spill! Try the 36E but make sure you follow the "how to put yor bra on and scoop" advice.

eski try a 30E and 30F

catpark and another bollocks M&S fitting! Try a 28F, 28FF, 30E for starters. 28 is more likely

Debenhams Gorgeous runs small in the back as a rule, so if the 32 is loose you definitely need to try a smaller back (and bigger cup) on other brands. If the Gorgeous 32F is overspilling I would try a 30G in others.

sparkle12mar08 Sat 02-Mar-13 13:27:24

Catpark try a 28f, 28ff, 30e and 30f

Eski try a 30e and 30f

catpark Sat 02-Mar-13 13:27:48

I've been wearing a 30D

sparkle12mar08 Sat 02-Mar-13 13:29:55

Thanks Statistically, I've seen you say that upthread so was wondering. But my actual measurements are 32.5 and 40, so I was thinking that a 30 might actually be too small, but on the other hand (again!), I'm also 'squishy of torso' as we've been terming it grin

catpark, if you follow the scooping info, how is the 30D fitting

catpark Sat 02-Mar-13 13:31:50

What's the best place to get 28 back sizes as i've struggled to get 30 back sized bras ? The 30D i've been wearing seems o.k. so thought I had guessed right !

eski2606 Sat 02-Mar-13 13:32:39

Thank you I will report back!

HellesBelles396 Sat 02-Mar-13 13:32:45

I went to the shops in my local town that sell bras and tried on a 38FF (no 36G's in sleepy market town (strange considering the humungosaurs I see about the place but hey-ho) but the cup was too big, worked my way down to a 36E with copious scooping (it actually HURT as I was trying to pull every spare ounce of flesh (ok - spare stone of flesh) from my upper body into the cups!).

Wearing it now - it's a Fantasie T-Shirt bra. Breasts look lifted but it is a fuller cup than I'm used to so feels a bit strange...

Thank you bra-ladies!

for 28s, try Brastop, Bravissimo, Leia, MyCurvesandMe, Amazon, debenhams, john lewis

catpark Sat 02-Mar-13 13:34:07

Statisticallychallenged, I seem to stay in the bra fine but i've just tested the 2 fingers in the band thing and I can get most of my hand under it so perhaps the 30 is too big.

HellesBelles396, sounds good! I find Fantasie bras a bit big as a rule, so you may find you need to try a cup size up in other brands (just for reference)

HellesBelles396 Sat 02-Mar-13 13:39:54

SC - forgot to say - this thread gave me the confidence to overrule the fitting room assistant when she told me that, if the cup looks big, I need to tighten the shoulder straps!
Thank you!

Confidence is what I like to hear

sparkle12mar08 Sat 02-Mar-13 14:10:15

You ladies are bad for my bank balance. Bad, you hear me? Bad! Just ordered another shedload in 30G to try.

Furball Sat 02-Mar-13 14:30:11

SC - it was it was a Elomi, Caitlyn, Full Cup, in 36 GG twas lovely too, yes to scooping but it still didn't fill the top part of the cup

I've copied and pasted me post below to save you trawling through:-

Me 36 GG bra turned up this morning and I don't have quite enough stuffing to fill it on the top half, but do on the bottom. It was good round on the band

What is the next size down? is it 36G? and then is 36 FF?

I need to go to a shops so will head for M & S and have a try on, though I'm not to confident about what the right fit should be as I've been wearing wrong all my bra wearing days. Is it a case of I will just know when it's right?

Trazzletoes Sat 02-Mar-13 14:33:01

Hi ladies! So, my 34DD(!) has arrived and it looks and feels amazing!

However, there is some, er, overspill between the band and my armpits - it bulges anyway and isn't what typically looks like boob-flesh.

Is this just because I could do with losing a few pounds? Or am I still in the wrong size? (Thanks!)

AyeOopMoose Sat 02-Mar-13 14:40:25

SC just wanted to say thank you so much. I was wearing 42f old non wired nursing bra.

I seriously thought that I was going to have to have surgery as my boobs looked so awful after bf and yo yo weight.

Now I have, dare I say it, perky (albeit large) boobs that are no longer by my navel. And I have a waist.

I feel sexy for the first time in 3 years and that I have a little bit of the old pre DC me back.

Amazing what a well fitting bra can do (38gg spot on first time). I just need to keep it on 24/7 grin

Beksybob Sat 02-Mar-13 14:47:11

Bra ladies! Please help me out. I've spent an entire morning trying on bras. Much to my surprise I have come away with a 30DD. It passes all the rules of a good bra test, but I'm still not be honest, it feels pretty much the same of my old 34AAs only the cups are further apart! Will I really get used to having this tight piece of materiel stretched across my ribcage? How long should it take?

Oh, also my boobs don't seem to curve over the top of anything I tried on no matter how small (as in the women on the photos), more escape under the armpits. Is that just my shape? In non-moulded ones the bottom of the cups seemed right but the tops were baggy. Too big or just my shape again?

Many thanks!!

Hi Beksy. You shouldn't have escapage under the armpits, that flesh should be in the cups. Sounds like the cup is not big enough / band too big.

FWIW, my wires end under the middle of my armpit.

Do you measure 30 inches underbust?

FancyPuffin Sat 02-Mar-13 15:26:07

Please could someone offer a suggestion for my norks?

Using the leaning forward method im 37 round chest and 46 round the breasts. What should I wear? I have a draw full of bras that don't fit angry


CelticPromise Sat 02-Mar-13 15:29:45

Fancy 36G for starters. What size do you wear?

Beksy it sounds as though the band might be too big. Have you tried a 28? Did you scoop?

I think the tightness does take a bit of getting used to, but it does get comfy. I wear my underwired bras to bed.

CelticPromise Sat 02-Mar-13 15:32:00

Trazzle did you scoop? That should all go in the bra, and once it's in the band should be tight enough to keep it there. You might need a bigger cup after vigorous scooping...

FancyPuffin Sat 02-Mar-13 15:32:22

thanks Celtic

38E at the moment. Reading this thread has made me realise I have been making the mistake of buying ever larger back sizes instead of bigger cups.

Looking forward to shopping grin

FancyPuffin Sat 02-Mar-13 15:33:21

Just to add to that I've 40 back bras that just make me look like shit angry

FancyPuffin Sat 02-Mar-13 15:33:41


I don't have 40 bras grin

Trazzletoes Sat 02-Mar-13 15:37:31

Celtic I scooped as vigorously as I possibly could! I promise!

Shoot - maybe I'm an E cup... faints I've been an AA most of my life and was so pleased to get to a B cup when I got pregnant grin

Trazzletoes Sat 02-Mar-13 15:38:32

And I really REALLY don't want to send back the 34DD. I'm back in my old bra and I really feel how uncomfy it is now, every second!!! grin

sparkle12mar08 Sat 02-Mar-13 15:53:53

Another question from me - what are good brands & designs for keeping the breasts forwards on the front chest? So many bra cups even in my correct sizing are shaped such that the side rounds outwards.

mamarara Sat 02-Mar-13 15:58:33

Any takers on my 32 / 39.5?
Am a little bit over excited at the thought of a bra that doesn't hurt!
(Thanks and sorry for asking twice!)

Hello Bra Revolution Dudes.

I have recently lost 14lbs and was in the market for new underwear .... on account of some of it being older than me eldest child - 11 years at least blush. The lovely Trazzles has pointed me to here so I am here with some numbers .....

I am 30.5 inches around the bottom bit
I am 36 inches around the long droopy boobs.

What does this mean? I am wearing a 32C at the moment but have a selection of bras (on account of them being so old and having had the largest breastfeeding norks that ever graced the earth) from 34B and 30GG.

Thank you.

This is brilliant. I luffs MN and the dudes on it.

sparkle12mar08 Sat 02-Mar-13 16:16:13

mamarara - 32F and 32FF

Teamakesit - 30E and 32DD. But I'd lay money on the 30 fitting better.

HellesBelles396 Sat 02-Mar-13 16:22:23

Now I've had my new bra on for a few hours, I don't think it fits. I've tightened it to the smallest fastening and it still feels like it's moving despite my moving about a fair bit in the fitting room without any slippage.

Now that the straps tighter, the cup feels wrong. The side-wires are on squishy flesh rather than firm flesh.

It's a 38E.

sparkle12mar08 Sat 02-Mar-13 16:26:23

What happened to the 36 you said you had just up thread, Helles? Sounds like you need a smaller band and bigger cup, so perhaps a 36F?


HellesBelles396 Sat 02-Mar-13 16:32:51

I had previously read the label from under my armpit - it's a 38E. I'll need to change my order with Bravissimo sad.

SC said that these Fantasie bras are big for their sizes - perhaps a 36FF? Or, given the fact the understrap is still a little loose, a 34 FF?

That's huge. Thanks. I shall pop into HoF on Monday to try those sizes on.

I would never have thought I was that big!

FierceBadIggi Sat 02-Mar-13 16:37:55

Ok have gone to Debenhams wearing a 40E and returned with a 34J! (Measurement was 36/49)
My biggest problem is going to be doing it up. I'm normally a do-it-up-back-to-front person, and really struggling with doing up something so tight at the back!
It does look impressive though. thanks

Nonky Sat 02-Mar-13 16:41:13

yippeee! I have just got back from bra shopping and now in a comfy 38G not a 38E that gave me 4 boobs and shoulder ache. Thank you so much for your help. The bra departments were packed today!

mamarara Sat 02-Mar-13 16:51:58

Thank you sparkle!

Losingexcessweight Sat 02-Mar-13 16:58:52

Not read the thread but ....

Has anyone tried bravissimo??

I had lots of problems with bras before i found bravissimo.

In marks n spencers i was measured a 38C.

The bra didnt look right, couldnt work out why despite trying loads more sizes.

Bravissimo measured me at 32F. The bra was perfect!

They are pricey at around £30 for one bra but well worth it. You have to hand wash them and you ll get about 12-18months out of one bra.

blibblibs Sat 02-Mar-13 17:05:21

Well I'm just back from bra shopping and it was a disaster sad

Bravissimo lady looked a guessed going from a 34D to a 32F. However I was able to put the 32 on the tightest hook and twirl it round my body so she suggested a 30. Tried it on 30FF (i think) and she said now that we've sorted your size someone else will be in with some different styles for you. Another lady came in with a few bras (one was the Alana can't remember the others) and left. Tried them all on but they just weren't right. Felt back fat was a bit much and the cups were empty at the nipple area but a bit too tight at the top.

Then nothing....was in the changing room for ages and no one came back sad so I left...braless

Then went on my merry way to M&S. Nothing in a 30 back so tried on the only 32F I could find, which did fit but was toooo ugly.

Then off to HoF. Tried on a 32F which again seemed to fit, a thriump i think but again tooo ugly. Only had a 30G which was far too big.

So from a hellish afternoon shopping i think i may be a 32F, but i need quite full coverage. Found the balconette styles were leaving me a bit wobbly at the top.

So I've given up on the high street and am going to try on line, so where is best for returns, because I have a feeling I will be needing to return some till I get this right smile

My update...

The first of the new bras I ordered online arrived today - 30F shock. Was wearing 36B/C before with a bit of cup floppyness...

But it fits perfectly! Thought the band looked tiny and the cups looked huge when I held it up but it fits me! I keep poking myself in my (newly discovered) boobs - I can't believe I have that much boob in the cups and it's all mine (mwa-ha-ha!)

Sorry gone slightly mad with the excitement of it all grin

sparkle12mar08 Sat 02-Mar-13 17:25:01

Feeling your own boobs is a hazard of a well fitting bra I must admit!

Blibblibs - Debenhams is good for returns as are M&S, also Brastop seem v well regarded here (I'm waiting on tenterhooks for an order from them!). Brastop have an amazing range of stuff. Also sounds like you might still need a bigger cup - what were your actual measurements again?

Helles - try them all - 36F, 36FF, 34FF. You'll find that perfect one eventually!

HellesBelles396 Sat 02-Mar-13 17:33:25

will do, thanks.

MrsKoala Sat 02-Mar-13 17:33:53

hurrah! success!

Back from bravissimo with 2 36e for mum. she just can't believe it. it has taken pounds off her waist too smile

Thanks guys.

blibblibs Sat 02-Mar-13 17:46:15

measurements are 33.5 under (but almost 32 if its really tight) and 39/40 bending over

teaforthree Sat 02-Mar-13 17:48:37

Would just like to say a massive thank you for the advice on here from the very knowledgeable ladies. I went to Bravissimo in the next city (spent an absolute fucking fortune but never mind) and I now look feminine! Nice lovely boobies pointing where they should not swinging wildly. I feel actually comfortable for the first time ever.

Now WIBU to run down the street with my new bra on shouting "touch my amazingly pert 32J breasts!"?

Great perseverence Koala! Bet your Mum looks 1/2 a stone lighter!

Blibb Try a 32F, 32FF, a 34E and a 34F.

If you do the back-to-front thing, you'll be able to see if the band is the right size.

Beksybob Sat 02-Mar-13 17:54:35

No, I didn't try a 28. 30 was as small as they made, and anyway it was super tight! And I measure 30, pulling the tape measure tight. I don't have any armpit escapeage with the 30DD ones I bought, but no cleavage either. I've just had to take it off though as it was absolutely killing me. The underwires were really digging in, I couldn't stand it any longer.

Beksybob Sat 02-Mar-13 18:00:50

Oh, and yes to scooping

XiCi Sat 02-Mar-13 18:17:19

Ive also been to Bravissamo today and cant believe the difference - a big thank you to everyone helping on this thread.

My mum wants to know her bra size now - can anyone help? We've just measured her and she is 36 under and 43 over

sparkle12mar08 Sat 02-Mar-13 18:22:27

XiCi - try 36F and 34FF to start, and 36FF and possibly 34G

blibblibs Sat 02-Mar-13 18:24:04

Do think the 32F was the best fitting today they were just too ugly.

Bravissimo were very busy today (don't know if that has anything to do with MN grin) but they were not interested in the slightest with me. Think I know what I'm looking for now (maybe) but i don't have the time or inclination for high street shopping after today sad

Mam23 Sat 02-Mar-13 18:29:03

This thread is a revelation. Always went with the +4 method - measured several times by M&S!!!

Measure 30 and 35. Went trying on bras in Debenhams. Smallest back I could find was 30 but still could pull out quite a bit of the band when it was done up on the loosest setting (that's right, right?) so I could probably do with trying a 28 (but couldn't find any to try). Is there a way to take in backs or am I stuck having to order online?

sparkle12mar08 Sat 02-Mar-13 18:43:48

Blibblibs - break out your credit card and have a poke around! I'm your size too, and have just ordered over £200 worth of stuff to try shock Good job they have free returns!

Syncope Sat 02-Mar-13 18:53:46

Have posted this on one of the other threads but thought I'd add it here, too.

Posted my measurements on the other thread last week, was advised to try 28F/FF. Went shopping, came home with a 30F - realised, after a bit more advice from the amazing bra ladies, that it was the wrong size, so I went back today and tried on a few more. Ended up exchanging for a 28FF.

Still can't quite believe I've gone from a 34B last week to a 28FF today! My boobs look amazing!

Sadly I'm pretty skint this month so will have to wait a few weeks before I can buy more, but thank you, Bra Interventionists! Dragged my mother along too who was also wearing completely the wrong size, and thanks to her new bra she's suddenly developed a waist that was never there before...

CelticPromise Sat 02-Mar-13 18:53:59

Beksy it could be a style issue. Are they moulded/plunge/balcony? Or possibly try a cup size down, if you feel the back is right but there's space in the cups. There's a lot of trial and error in this bra business...

CelticPromise Sat 02-Mar-13 18:57:24

Mam23 apparently it's easy to take in a band but I've never tried it. There is a thing called a Rixy clip available that does it.

Debenhams own Gorgeous range comes up small so you could try a 30 in those, or they do sometimes have 28s. Amazon currently have some good bras available in 28 band, and you get free returns.

Beksybob Sat 02-Mar-13 19:00:26

I tried every style going! Push up ones worked in terms of filling the cup but only just - no cleavage. Boobs very much inside the cups, if you know what I mean. I tried a cup size down but I started getting armpit boob.

Me & bras...we're not meant to be. Feel so much better since taking it off!

CelticPromise Sat 02-Mar-13 19:00:26

blibblibs that is crap service in Bravissimo and worth bringing to their attention.

Were you scooping in those 30 backs? The solution to back fat is rarely to go up a size- more to scoop vigorously and keep the back tight enough to keep it all in.

CelticPromise Sat 02-Mar-13 19:03:13

Bugger Beksy how frustrating. I know Statistically recommends the Bravissimo Satine for cleavage, might be worth a look. But no bra is any use to you if it's causing you pain. What brand is it? Do you think the wires come up too high for you?

Mam23 Sat 02-Mar-13 19:03:34

Thanks celtic. And thanks for all the time you wonderful boob gurus are devoting to these threads.

CelticPromise Sat 02-Mar-13 19:04:20

Great news Syncope and teaforthree!

eski2606 Sat 02-Mar-13 19:08:14

Could anyone telle what size bra you'd need with measurements of 34 and 43? Thank you

SorrelForbes Sat 02-Mar-13 19:10:35

Try a 34G

Beksybob Sat 02-Mar-13 19:11:52

M&S, I must confess. There is no-where else in town that does a 30.

No, I don't think the wires are too high - they don't come up between the boobs atall. It's underneath where it was really pressing in to me. It definately can't be too small a band? Or are non-wired any good?

Thanks so much for all this!

eski2606 Sat 02-Mar-13 19:14:57

Thank you for your help, that's great

Cheeriostuckonsock Sat 02-Mar-13 19:16:15

Could you help me out too please? M&S has me at a 36C but lately my boobs hurt... Reading this thread has made me realise how baggy my bra actually feels blush so... I'm 30 under and 37 over, what say you, kind bra gurus?!

SorrelForbes Sat 02-Mar-13 19:17:12

Try a 30F Cheerio.

CelticPromise Sat 02-Mar-13 19:17:15

Cheerio 30F for starters!

sparkle12mar08 Sat 02-Mar-13 19:18:08

30F to start with Cheerios!

MrsKeithRichards Sat 02-Mar-13 19:18:55

Yay! It's been a long time comin and has been done on a budget (primark) but I'm sitting here in perfectly pert, giant boobage. I'm a 36f. An f!! I've worn 40 or 38d or dd for ever.

SorrelForbes Sat 02-Mar-13 19:19:16

Hi all grin

MrsKeithRichards Sat 02-Mar-13 19:22:33

I'm wanting dh to come home, he pays a lot of attention to my bombs, wondering what he'll say.

TheDoctrineOfSciAndNatureClub Sat 02-Mar-13 19:24:03


Damn you auto correct grin

sparkle12mar08 Sat 02-Mar-13 19:24:19

Can I just check I'm not the only one who has been glued to these threads the last few days, and hitting refresh on a minute by minute basis blush

sparkle12mar08 Sat 02-Mar-13 19:24:51

Oh but I just bet they're absolutely the bomb right now in a properly fitting bra!!!

blibblibs Sat 02-Mar-13 19:25:40

Celticpromise i was really disappointed in Bravissimo today after I'd heard such wonderful things about them here. I'm not really one to complain and almost felt guilty for not buying anything.grin
The back fat couldn't have been scooped forward, it was all the way round at the back, where the band was and all the way round underneath. I do think the 30 was just a bit too tight. The 32's were tight but no back fat.

Sparkle thanks, will away and look at brastop now if they have free returns. Any suggestions?

HeavenlyWineandRoses Sat 02-Mar-13 19:25:55

Belated thanks to Sorrel and Celtic. I have been out all day but now eagerly hitting

I used to buy underwear at m&s before having kids and therefore pre-boobs but wouldn't trust my post-baby and nursing boobs to them. Lingerie was such a key part of their product line and they still have some really lovely designs but shame about the sizing. They ought to get Sorrel and Celtic in as their new Boobs Ambassadors.

CelticPromise Sat 02-Mar-13 19:26:22

Hmmm Beksy I sort of know what you mean, I have one or two bras that dig into my ribs especially when I sit down and slouch. In fact I'm wearing one right now, and it is a touch too big in the band and small in the cup (weight loss followed by pregnancy messing me about!) But you feel you aren't filling the cup so that doesn't make sense... <racks brain>

Re soft cup, for big boobs I'd say they don't do much. But you aren't huge, and the most important thing is comfort...

It might be worth an online order in a mix of styles and sizes to find the right bra for you. Unless you are sick of the whole thing confused

SorrelForbes Sat 02-Mar-13 19:28:06

Read mine and Statistically's M&S fitting experience here

CelticPromise Sat 02-Mar-13 19:28:06

Sparkle it's not just you! grin

The top four on my ' threads I'm on' are all bra threads!

sparkle12mar08 Sat 02-Mar-13 19:29:07

Blibblibs - Nothing specific - I just ordered one of everything in my size that came in under £20. I've promised myself I'll only keep the best two, assuming they're any good in the first place. Well, maybe three. Okay, four...

If you've more money to spend then they have some absolutely lovely designs in the £20-£30 bracket.

GoingVerySlowlyMad Sat 02-Mar-13 19:30:10

Ok please may I have some more help? My measurements are 33 and 40 and was told to try 32F, 32FF, 34E and 34F. Went and tried on lots of bras and picked up 3 from M&S This and These. The 32F was the best best fit got them home and worn them both for an hour or so and at first were really comfy but the strap started to become excruciatingly painful at the fleshy bit of the underarm on both styles. Do I need to just persevere and wear them in oris there a fit problem?

HeavenlyWineandRoses Sat 02-Mar-13 19:30:33

Oops, I failed to mention and thank statistically. Thank you too!

What do you recommend for women (like me) where one side is a different size to the other side - I would say at least 1 and probably 2 cup size difference?

Cheeriostuckonsock Sat 02-Mar-13 19:32:27

Sorrel, Celtic, Sparkle - Thank you so much for spending your precious time sorting out our norks... V much appreciated! thanks

Beksybob Sat 02-Mar-13 19:35:47

Ha! Definately not huge grin I've seen men with bigger boobs than me.

Maybe I really just don't need one. They're lovely and pert without any help (for now - no kids yet!)

I'm a little bit over it, but I might have a go ordering more another day. Thanks for your help.

Cheeriostuckonsock Sat 02-Mar-13 19:43:29

Cheeky bonus question grin am about to spend a happy evening browsing tinterweb for 30F's... What other sizes do I need to order 'either side' of this, do you think?

sparkle12mar08 Sat 02-Mar-13 19:47:12

You might want to try some 30FF, 28FF and 28G's as well.

CelticPromise Sat 02-Mar-13 19:50:36

Jeff if you search these threads for marriednotdead she has written a great post about uneven breasts. The basic rule I think is fit the larger breast, pad the smaller if necessary.

Cheeriostuckonsock Sat 02-Mar-13 19:51:45

Sparkle I'm on the case wine

Thank you, I will!