to want to buy this house for the dividing doors in the reception room alone?

(185 Posts)
FlouncingMintyy Wed 27-Feb-13 23:01:16
Nombrechanger Wed 27-Feb-13 23:05:54

Very nice

FlouncingMintyy Wed 27-Feb-13 23:12:05

I adore them. Shame the garden is so small sad.

Devora Wed 27-Feb-13 23:21:12

Wow, they are seriously beautiful. If I lived there I wouldn't need a telly - I'd just sit and drool over my screens all day.

MummytoMog Wed 27-Feb-13 23:25:13

Ooh, we're putting something like that into our living room - ta for the inspiration!

zgaze Wed 27-Feb-13 23:25:22

I used to live in the next road to that house smile

If you lived there you wouldn't have a telly - it would have been nicked along with the rest of your household possessions, and probably your car too.

LeChatRouge Wed 27-Feb-13 23:29:17

I love them too.

I think having two small rooms is coming back now and people will be reinstating the walls between front and back rooms again....funny how these things go in phases....

FakePlasticLobsters Wed 27-Feb-13 23:34:36

The tiled path is gorgeous.

Turniphead1 Wed 27-Feb-13 23:36:33

Gosh am I alone in finding the whole house twee & like a saloon bar. Thought the doors were naff. Just me then.

MajorBumsore Wed 27-Feb-13 23:38:22

No, I think they're awful too. Plumstead is a bit rough.

Softlysoftly Wed 27-Feb-13 23:40:01

Are you all joking?

You are joking us?

<<nods to self definitely joking>>

MammaTJ Wed 27-Feb-13 23:40:49

They truly are a thing of beauty!

zgaze Wed 27-Feb-13 23:46:29

Interestingly in the same road there is a terrace of beautiful modernist houses designed by the highly renowned architect Bernard Lubetkin. Totally random to find such lovely iconic houses in what is essentially the arsehole of south east London.

no saloon bar here

KeatsiePie Wed 27-Feb-13 23:49:59

I like both. This is why I don't own, too hard to decide. (Nothing at all to do with money or with having to move so often, nope.)

But what is a reception? That first ad said "3 receptions." Is it a living room?

Devora Wed 27-Feb-13 23:52:27

Yeah, Plumstead is a high price to pay for beautiful dividing doors.

I LOVE dividing doors. I agree they are bound to come back as we plunge into global warming and no-one can afford to heat their open plan kitchen diners. The double height afficionados are doomed.

INeverSaidThat Thu 28-Feb-13 00:58:50

Sorry, I am not feelin' the love. sad

I love love love the staircase on the modern house but I was also quite taken with the dividing doors!

ripsishere Thu 28-Feb-13 01:06:16

Don't like the dividing doors at all.
I was considering getting a chippy to knock us up a set. In our house in Engand, we have a 'through lounge'. It was shocking to heat.

TheSmallerPenguin Thu 28-Feb-13 01:31:36

[Shock] I'd have them out within 24hrs of getting the keys.

FillyPutty Thu 28-Feb-13 01:45:29

Ugh, £400,000 to live in the ghetto in a little terrace.

Just why?

HollyBerryBush Thu 28-Feb-13 03:44:54

>eek< I wouldnt live in Plumstead. Every time my son goes down that way he gets mugged.

FlouncingMintyy Thu 28-Feb-13 09:07:41

I like the bathroom too! But am not seriously going to move to Plumstead, don't worry. You can't get a 4 bed house in London for that price without there being a serious downside ... and in this case the area is the downside.

mrsjay Thu 28-Feb-13 09:13:58

Gosh am I alone in finding the whole house twee & like a saloon bar. Thought the doors were naff. Just me then.

nope hate it and the screens and the kids bedroom was v OTT

mrsjay Thu 28-Feb-13 09:15:28

and it looks like they have done away with alcovey bits in the living room I like alcovey bits grin

Fakebook Thu 28-Feb-13 09:19:18

They're ugly. The whole house looks like its trying too hard to be something that its not. The bathroom is shocking.

flatbread Thu 28-Feb-13 09:19:29

The second house is lovely.

KobayashiMaru Thu 28-Feb-13 09:42:10

Those modernist houses are seriously fugly.

countrykitten Thu 28-Feb-13 10:09:26

Hmmmm - I think it's all a bit too 'try hard' for me and ends up being on the wrong side of classy/classic. The doors are horrid.

countrykitten Thu 28-Feb-13 10:10:47

Oh God - just seen the bathroom....nooooo!

cantspel Thu 28-Feb-13 10:11:56

The garden is tiny and the doors would look better with frosted glass. The fire place and the bubbles on the walls of the attic room are nice but i would rather eat my oldest child than live in an over priced london ghetto.

GinAndSlimlinePlease Thu 28-Feb-13 10:15:43

I love the Lubetkin house! Not so keen on the faux victoriana. Sorry.

FlouncingMintyy Thu 28-Feb-13 10:27:01

"but i would rather eat my oldest child than live in an over priced london ghetto"

that's a monumentally stupid thing to say isn't it?

Millions and millions (about 10 million of them at the last count) live in London. What do you mean by ghetto?

MarmaladeTwatkins Thu 28-Feb-13 10:32:14

Ooooh, no.

They're very oppressive. They might be better painted white but I'd be tempted to rip them out along with everything else in that house.

In the bathroom picture, why is the loo roll holder positioned so far away from the loo?! Very impractical wink

littlewhitebag Thu 28-Feb-13 10:33:22

I don't like it either. It's just not my taste and i would hate to live in a city. No need to be rude about it though. We are all different.

cantspel Thu 28-Feb-13 10:35:57

If you read again i said I. That is me not those who choose to live there so it doesn't matter how many millions of people who live in london as i dont want to be one of them.

Crime stats for plumstead

595 robberies a year, so over i a day, 5383 violent crimes a year = ghetto

countrykitten Thu 28-Feb-13 10:36:56

Bloody hell. That's shocking.

Owllady Thu 28-Feb-13 10:38:19

oh that's a lovely house in the OP
but my experience of Plumstead is similar, same re Erith

HousewifeFromHeaven Thu 28-Feb-13 10:40:54

I have the exact same fire in my bedroom as in the op lounge, although marble surround.

I'm not unique after all grin

skratta Thu 28-Feb-13 10:44:36

I hate that house! And I agree with zgaze. I choose my laptop over fancy dividing doors!

SusanneLinder Thu 28-Feb-13 10:47:26

I don't like the first houe at all-I really don't like "period" properties.Far too cluttered and too much added stuff that detract from it.I like modern type houses. It has no kerb appeal. But then I live in an area where 400k would get you a detached property in a rural setting.

The second one-well I hate the outside (the poles!), but it is during the art deco period which I love.But soooo much more could be made of the inside.

FlouncingMintyy Thu 28-Feb-13 10:47:38

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cantspel Thu 28-Feb-13 10:50:57

As i have never lived in Wales i cant form a view as to whether or not the welsh shag sheep but i have lived in london.

Feminine Thu 28-Feb-13 10:55:32

Some of it is nice. In those nice bits it looks like a relaxing home.

I don't like the doors, they look like something from a 1960's spaghetti western!

I don't think its on to slag off areas, some people probably lead happy lives in them! smile

Fakebook Thu 28-Feb-13 10:58:58

The UK doesn't have "ghettos" confused.

this is a ghetto

countrykitten Thu 28-Feb-13 10:59:18

Not sure that there is any need for racist remarks OP just because most posters think that the house you like is a bit naff. And it IS naff - overdone and lacking classiness. Probably done up by someone who has seen pics of a lovely period property and tried to copy. Badly.

Is being racist how you generally respond to well meant criticism (you did ask for opinions after all)?

countrykitten Thu 28-Feb-13 11:07:20

FM - please explain why you have used racist remarks in this thread. Really not impressed. Shows a rather high level of stupidity on your part.

FakePlasticLobsters Thu 28-Feb-13 11:15:13

I love the second house, but I don't like the fireplace in that funny shaped room, or the way you have to sit side on to the TV in the corner.

digerd Thu 28-Feb-13 11:22:17

I need walls as have so many glass show cases and sideboards all packed full with stuff.
Receptions are a posh name for rooms downstairs other than the kitchen.
If one room is a kitchen diner, it would be a cheek to call the diner part a reception.

I didn't like the front or the furnishings, but do like the folding doors, but no good to me as would have nowhere to put my 2m sideboard and vitrine that sits on top of it .

AgathaF Thu 28-Feb-13 11:25:28

Bloody hell - how can a thread about dividing doors turn into a bun fight so quickly confused

cantspel Thu 28-Feb-13 11:25:35

You would need to move the sofa every time you wanted to open and use the double doors.

countrykitten Thu 28-Feb-13 11:25:41

What are you showing off in your glass cases and your vitrine? Intrigued.

yuleheart Thu 28-Feb-13 11:28:52

love the dividing doors, love the bathroom, love the loft room.

Do not like the look of the back garden or the area

countrykitten Thu 28-Feb-13 11:30:44

But apparently it's a much better area than the whole of Wales....

countrykitten Thu 28-Feb-13 11:31:07

Looks pretty rough to me and the crime stats are dreadful.

impecuniousmarmoset Thu 28-Feb-13 11:37:05

The doors would look ok in a grand country house or an old municipal library - which is no doubt where they came from originally - but they look ridiculous in a small Victorian terrace imo - totally out of place. Not massively keen on any of the decor. The modernist house on the other hand looks great, but sadly neglected.

cantspel Thu 28-Feb-13 11:40:39

The modernist house has a great garden but i am not a great lover of open plan living. It looks cold and a nightmare to heat.

MarmaladeTwatkins Thu 28-Feb-13 11:42:23

Bloody Nora shock

A thread. About dividing doors. Has gone awry.

Baffledandbewildered Thu 28-Feb-13 12:03:12

Haha thought the house looked familiar !!!! I moved from this street 12 years ago . Very nice smile

Baffledandbewildered Thu 28-Feb-13 12:09:11

Its not in plumstead its blackheath . They are about 2 miles apart !!

CockyFox Thu 28-Feb-13 12:34:56

That's a lovely house, I was all set to post that not knowing London very well I was surprised that it cost so little ( a nice 3 bedroom near my parents in the midlands would cost nearly that) then I came on to see the comments about the area.

twitchycurtains Thu 28-Feb-13 12:42:40

Not keen on the house, however I would love to live in a house with 2reception roons or at least a frigging door between the living room and kitvhn/dining room-I hate open plan living, I dream of doors and walls.

FlouncingMintyy Thu 28-Feb-13 12:45:06

Pmsl countrykitten
OBVIOUSLY I was being offensive to demonstrate to cantspel how offensive she had been. You can't honestly have thought I was being serious? Not ^really?? shock.

And of course I don't mind if people don't like the house or even hate it. I haven't argued with anyone else who doesn't like it, have I? Its not my house, I don't even know Plumstead at all well. I just happen to like those room dividers.

FlouncingMintyy Thu 28-Feb-13 12:47:05

"FM - please explain why you have used racist remarks in this thread. Really not impressed. Shows a rather high level of stupidity on your part."

Oh ha ha haaaaa!

twilight3 Thu 28-Feb-13 12:49:03

I like the dividing doors but the house is a bit.... well.... cosy to say the least wink

Fallenangle Thu 28-Feb-13 12:50:36

Its what my dad calls 'brewers taste'.

grovel Thu 28-Feb-13 12:52:59

I imagine welsh people would like the dividing doors.

Timetoask Thu 28-Feb-13 12:58:28

really old fashioned... horrible... sorry

Hullygully Thu 28-Feb-13 13:00:46


FlouncingMintyy Thu 28-Feb-13 13:01:30

Only boring people get bored, did you Mum not tell you that Hully?

currentbuns Thu 28-Feb-13 13:02:12

Well I'd say the derelict dump in Dublin probably has more potential than the Plumstead one.

KobayashiMaru Thu 28-Feb-13 13:02:29

yeah but Howth is a seriously desirable area and once renovated that house could be worth a fair bit, even in this market.

Hullygully Thu 28-Feb-13 13:03:18



Maryz Thu 28-Feb-13 13:05:24

Are the Welsh a separate race confused?

Hullygully Thu 28-Feb-13 13:06:19

well they do have leeks growing out of their ears and go to chapel when they aren't coal mining

Maryz Thu 28-Feb-13 13:06:50

And that house in Howth will go for a fortune.

FoxyRevenger Thu 28-Feb-13 13:07:12

Fook, I was shock at the price for a 3 bedroom house.

Then someone (OP?) said it was cheap shock shock shock

We are moving house and our budget is £175k!!! London/South East is a whole other world to my wee Scottish village.

FlouncingMintyy Thu 28-Feb-13 13:07:14

Ironically the famous "Roy Brooks" was an agent in my area of London. They still have an office but their property particulars nowadays tend to be of the toe-curlingly cringeworthy variety link.

Maryz Thu 28-Feb-13 13:08:06

See, it's rugby season.

So it's open season on Welsh/Scots/French/Italian/English rude jokes atm. I was just wondering if I was racist, or just intolerant competitive.

blacktaildog Thu 28-Feb-13 13:08:31

reminds me of a wild west bar

currentbuns Thu 28-Feb-13 13:13:10

"Reputedly this home was recently the scene of a long romantic triste between a handsome British model and a famous blonde US A-lister when she was filming for Working Title in London. More recently it has played the much-loved home to a local family. - See more at:"

currentbuns Thu 28-Feb-13 13:14:04

Toes are indeed curling!

countrykitten Thu 28-Feb-13 15:14:57

Well I may be Welsh FlouncingMintyy but at least I haven't got fucking awful taste in houses. We all have our cross to bear.

Maryz Thu 28-Feb-13 15:16:31

Did you get up out of bed the wrong side today, country <soothes>

This was a pretty lighthearted thread, I thought confused.

countrykitten Thu 28-Feb-13 15:35:20

Sorry - things get said about the Welsh (and the Scots and French and whoever else) and it's considered light hearted and 'funny' but I quite often think that they are ignorant and stupid. The OP was pissed off that no one liked the tacky house she loved so made an ignorant remark about the Welsh. Whatever. MNHQ seemed to agree that it was unnecessary and offensive. Nuff said.

countrykitten Thu 28-Feb-13 15:36:08

Thank you for the soothing! Am calm now.

FlouncingMintyy Thu 28-Feb-13 15:46:56

No, countrykitten, that is not what happened at all, so don't re-write history.

Fallenangle Thu 28-Feb-13 16:06:15

<sending out for buns>

cantspel Thu 28-Feb-13 16:15:21

The op was pissed at me as i think plumstead is a crime ridden ghetto and have no wish to live there.

She clearly lives or likes the area and so has taken it as a personal insult that someone else doesn't. Maybe she thinks i am welsh so she decides to insult the welsh thinking i will be mortally offended.

Maybe it is even her house and posted how wonder the doors were to get a bit of free advertising. Who knows as we are all just mere pixels on a screen.

countrykitten Thu 28-Feb-13 16:17:35

Yes that was exactly what happened so I reported your offensive post and MNHQ deleted it. It went along the lines of 'I would rather smear myself in excrement than live in Wales where everyone......' and then came the offensive cliched dig at the Welsh.

The evidence is on the thread apart from that post which was deleted. I think that it is YOU who would like to re-write history but sadly what's done is done.

countrykitten Thu 28-Feb-13 16:20:10

To be fair to you, you were trying to get at cantspel because she didn't like your dream house and the area it is in. As the thread clearly shows. Why the dig at the Welsh I have no idea - possibly some deep seated prejudice on your part, possibly your idea of a 'joke'. Whatever.

countrykitten Thu 28-Feb-13 16:20:49

Hopefully you will think twice next time.

Levantine Thu 28-Feb-13 16:23:42

Slightly swerving the subject away again, Roy Brooks descriptions are in a league of their own annoyingness. I thought of emailing them the other day i was so irritated by their drivel.

countrykitten Thu 28-Feb-13 16:26:32

Ahhh -I didn't think that maybe it's actually the OP's house and we were supposed to 'swoon' too? That kind of makes sense! grin

TippiShagpile Thu 28-Feb-13 16:28:38

You would have thought they'd tidy the garden before they had the photos taken. Looks like a (very small) jungle.

Hideous sliding doors. Not my cup of tea at all.

LadyIsabellaWrotham Thu 28-Feb-13 16:41:52

It's strange how everybody sees things differently. I looked at it and thought "nice doors, overly try-hard decor, but I'd love to have a nice bug garden like that". You can tell I'm a Londoner can't you.

LadyIsabellaWrotham Thu 28-Feb-13 16:42:48

..."big" garden not bug garden - implausible as that may seem to most on this thread.

alemci Thu 28-Feb-13 16:47:27

our house has naff doors to divide the lounge from the dining room. They are a 50's style not unlike Ken and Deidre's in Corrie but they do us. not very good on soundproofing though but good to open up for a party etc.

The house looked nice

Fallenangle Thu 28-Feb-13 16:52:22

Isabella, for a London terrace that looks a fair size garden, or will be when cut back. At the moment it is definitely set up as a bug garden, perhaps it is meant to be. Refreshing to see something not paved over.

someoftheabove Thu 28-Feb-13 16:54:35

I used to live in the next road, too, zgaze in a house that was probably identical in layout. I am gobsmacked at the price! We sold for £110,000 in 1999. And it was a rough area, but we liked how diverse it was, compared to where we are now, in one of the trashiest, whitest parts of Surrey.
Really hate the dividing doors, btw.

Maryz Thu 28-Feb-13 16:57:54

Oh ffs

The welsh reply was tongue in cheek reply to cantspel's nasty post referring to people who have to live in London "ghettoes"

Is that racist to Londoners?

You can't expect the op not to be pissed at some of the comments about the area

someoftheabove Thu 28-Feb-13 17:01:49

Baffledandbewildered it is Plumstead (SE18), not Blackheath (SE3). You should have known that if you lived there.

usualsuspect Thu 28-Feb-13 17:05:21

Some seriously stuck up people on MN.

I don't like the doors much though tbh.

MaureenMLove Thu 28-Feb-13 17:10:46

That house is in the very heart of Plumstead, no where near Blackheath!

There are some truely beautiful houses (with potential, obviously!) in that area and it is a real shame that the local area is so rubbish. It's one of those places that has just been left to rot, whist some of the neighbouring areas have had some regeneration.

I do like the house, but I'm seeing through the decor tbh. I don't think the garden is that small. I think it just needs an awful lot of pruning. I reckon you could get another couple of feet on the sides, if you chopped down a bit of greenery!

countrykitten Thu 28-Feb-13 18:16:28

MaryZ I was unaware that London was a country. You can stuff your 'ffs' The reply was not tongue in cheek and it was aimed at Welsh PEOPLE not an area. See the difference?

If the OP puts up a post asking people to adore her dream house and people don't like it or the area then she should be woman enough to take what comes her way. People have different opinions. No need to slag of Welsh people just because she has thrown her toys out of the pram.

countrykitten Thu 28-Feb-13 18:18:26

MaureenMLove has just said that the area is 'rubbish'! OP, fancy a pop at the Irish now to make a point?

FlouncingMintyy Thu 28-Feb-13 18:25:56

Yes, it is a shame about Plumstead. But I suppose if more people wanted to live there you'd have to put a couple of hundred thousand on that price tag grin.

We live in a larger Victorian terrace which had had the two reception rooms knocked through (and sadly nearly all original features ripped out by the previous owners), but we have made them back into two rooms with doors between. Ours are reclaimed conservatory doors from Lassco which look nothing like the ones in the op.

I really love those doors grin but agree they'd be nice painted white.

redplasticspoon Thu 28-Feb-13 18:47:12

I was going to say that is incredibly cheap for London, what's the catch? But it seems people have answered that already.

That house in a desirable London neighbourhood would easily go for 3x the price.

redplasticspoon Thu 28-Feb-13 18:49:28

Also that garden is not small for London. It's bleedin huge!

Maryz Thu 28-Feb-13 18:54:37

Goodness me, country, you are in a bad mood shock.

countrykitten Thu 28-Feb-13 19:09:46

Yeah sorry about that. Don't like racist remarks.

RatPants Thu 28-Feb-13 19:24:33

I'm in Wales and my house is far nicer. And cheaper. And in a very, VERY low-crime area. grin

MarmaladeTwatkins Thu 28-Feb-13 19:40:40

I think that OP was doing a ridiculous comparison akin to the one that "London is a ghetto" or whatever it was that was said, cba to scroll back. I didn't think she was being seriously racist, just pulling an obviously stupid stereotype out of the bag to show how ridiculous the ghetto comment was.

I think that reading things in context is a lost art on Mumsnet nowadays sad

MarmaladeTwatkins Thu 28-Feb-13 19:42:38

Oh and if we're being nit-picky, Welsh isn't a race.

laptopdancer Thu 28-Feb-13 19:44:58

Im not keen on the house or the dividers.

FlouncingMintyy Thu 28-Feb-13 19:45:04

Of course I wasn't being racist. The only person who thinks so is countrykitten and she has got herself in a proper tizz over it.

Ck - I find when I am getting irrationally angry over a thread and frankly barking right up the wrong tree then hiding the thread is tremendously helpful.

BOF Thu 28-Feb-13 19:50:29

I like the doors. And the fire. And the Welsh.

Icelollycraving Thu 28-Feb-13 19:51:04

Didn't realise I lived in an actual ghetto sad
Oh well,I am down the road & fucked in negative equity. That kind of tops my bloody day.

MarmaladeTwatkins Thu 28-Feb-13 19:57:15

It's ok. She's over on another thread getting offended on behalf of men with plucked eyebrows hmm


Icelolly, you don't live in a ghetto! It's all relative. To some of the pampered twats on here it might be a bit, erm, rustic? wink But I doubt it's that bad. Plus it's London. Hold on to it for long enough and your area will probably becaome very desirable, properties will rocket. As my cousin is finding out after she sold her flat in Hackney ten years ago...

limitedperiodonly Thu 28-Feb-13 20:00:05

My fireplace is from Lassco OP. And the Medusa head bit of objet d'art in my (much smaller) back garden.

I wanted a marble bath from there but it cost too much and would have cost only slightly less to heat. And it would have crashed through the floor.

FlouncingMintyy Thu 28-Feb-13 20:03:57

Vauxhall or Tower Bridge, Limited? I walk right past the Vauxhall one on my way to work ... always tempted to pop in.

FlouncingMintyy Thu 28-Feb-13 20:04:45

Sorry to hear about the negative equity, icelolly.

Icelollycraving Thu 28-Feb-13 20:10:26

Thanks. Came on for some property porn & got a shock when it was Plumstead. No doubt in comparison to leafy Surrey it is 'urban'.

limitedperiodonly Thu 28-Feb-13 20:11:20

It used to be in an old church sort of Old Street way. Is it not there any more? It seemed like we'd spend every Sunday there but that was a long time ago.

I'm near Vauxhall. I'll go down there and look at things I can't afford or fit in.

FlouncingMintyy Thu 28-Feb-13 20:19:16

Its right at the foot of the huge round block of flats the helicopter crashed into.

pigletmania Thu 28-Feb-13 20:28:44

No sorry ain't feeling the love. There is too much wood everywhere

TippiShagpile Thu 28-Feb-13 20:46:10

Flouncing - you are right. The Hide button is very useful. smile

Maryz Thu 28-Feb-13 20:46:11

Can I ask a very serious question.

Can you be racist about "the Welsh" if you are English? Aren't you the same race (I hesitated to tell country that Wales and England are, technically, the same country which is in fact the case).

But if you can be racist about Wales, you can be racist about London, since they are both places within the UK, aren't they?

This is a genuine question.

I don't like the doors by the way, sorry. I have gone all open plan now mine are teenagers. They just take up so much room with their long legs and gadgets.

Maryz Thu 28-Feb-13 20:47:48

Not that I actually think you can be racist about "Londoners" - you'd have to pick on one particular type of Londoner, wouldn't you?

usualsuspect Thu 28-Feb-13 20:50:58

CK is a right bundle of laughs.

MarmaladeTwatkins Thu 28-Feb-13 20:55:32

She meant xenophobic. Welsh are not a race separate from White British so unless you can be racist against your own race, which actually I suppose you technically can be, I bery much doubt that OP was being racist.


AnyFucker Thu 28-Feb-13 20:56:41

I have no opinion on London areas to live

I don't like those doors though, and I am not keen on the house style of decor

very try-hard

Maryz Thu 28-Feb-13 20:59:46

That's it.

I knew there was another word.

Can you be xenophobic about Londoners, then, if you are Welsh? I presume you can.

And, as an aside, I really hate posters who say "I reported your post and it was deleted, so nyer". It pisses me right orf.

i live in an almost identical house (without the awful decor and doors) with all original features, fireplaces, parquet flooring, tiled hall. Three double beds, large garden. Within walking distance of small town, within walking distance of countryside. Outstanding primary school catchment, local high schools are single sex and both outstanding.

10 mins from rail to London 1hr40mins

yours for £125,000

not selling....

MarmaladeTwatkins Thu 28-Feb-13 21:04:01

Yes, you can be xenophobic about Londoners. You can be xenophobic about any group of persons/any place that you deem to be weird/alien because of cultural differences.

Maryz Thu 28-Feb-13 21:06:53

<childishly pleased to be right>


Softlysoftly Thu 28-Feb-13 21:06:55

Don't worry ice I'm sure it's fine.

It could be worse I'm English, living in Wales, working in London and now I'm confused as to whether to be offended, whether dividing doors are good or bad and where I can get my own personal sheep sad

MarmaladeTwatkins Thu 28-Feb-13 21:07:10

"And, as an aside, I really hate posters who say "I reported your post and it was deleted, so nyer". It pisses me right orf."


Is there anything smugger than "MN agree with meeeee so THERE"? I think not.

MNHQ seem quite twitchy about contentious posts nowadays. That is their prerogative really. People take things out of context (case in point^), so I can see why they'd rather avoid all the hoo-haa. Doesn't mean that MNHQ are taking your side. Just probably means they'd rather avoid aggro'/twenty billionty reports.

countrykitten Thu 28-Feb-13 21:08:54

Not sure that the English have Celtic roots but I may be wrong. Well, at least I have learned that it's ok to be offensive to a whole nation (and thus my nationality) on MN. It's not xenophobic to suggest that a whole nation of people engage in bestiality (very fucking funny) - it's downright offensive, juvenile stupidity.

Viviennemary Thu 28-Feb-13 21:08:57

Oh Wow. Great house. It doesn't seem so expensive for London. Not that I know much about London prices these days. I love the bathroom.

countrykitten Thu 28-Feb-13 21:09:45

But as you say - best to hide a thread started by an offensive idiot with poor taste in housing.

Viviennemary Thu 28-Feb-13 21:10:41

Oh dear I wasn't meant to like it was I. But I do. grin

MarmaladeTwatkins Thu 28-Feb-13 21:12:58

Is Celt a race? I thought that Celt was indicative of culture rather than being a racial group.

I am happy to be told I am wrong, though.

Maryz Thu 28-Feb-13 21:13:13

Or, alternatively, it was a joke [baffled]

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

MarmaladeTwatkins Thu 28-Feb-13 21:13:28

Well just fucing hide it then!!!


Maryz Thu 28-Feb-13 21:15:49

And Wales, technically, isn't a nation is it?

I thought a nation had to have it's own independent Government. Because Northern Ireland isn't a nation.

FlouncingMintyy Thu 28-Feb-13 21:27:19

countrykitten - I think you'll find I'm an offensive idiot with poor taste in room dividing doors, not housing per se.

You, otoh, appear to be charming.

DumSpiroSpero Thu 28-Feb-13 21:32:09

Given that England itself used to be multiple countries (Wessex, Mercia etc all with their own kings) and that the majority of us are probably descended from Romans, Vikings & Gauls we could be here for months discussing internal racism if we wanted to get pedantic.

My friend has lived in Plumbstead for 10 years quite happily with no issues. Personally I'd rather liver on that side of London than the SW/Surrey borders areas, but then I'm half Cockney/half Eat Croydon so I guess I'm biased!

FWIW the doors aren't my thing, but I can see why people would like them. grin

flatbread Thu 28-Feb-13 21:34:31

Electrical, where are you?

I've been reading this thread since early afternoon and only just looked at the link grin I like it

I've been reading this thread since early afternoon and only just looked at the link grin I like it

LadyIsabellaWrotham Thu 28-Feb-13 22:15:55

I'm glad to have been backed up on the garden front. It's twice the size of my teeny garden, and most of my mates have something the same size or smaller than me. So the hordes saying "look at that ridiculously small garden!" made me a bit confused sad

Maryz Thu 28-Feb-13 22:22:52

Yes, the garden has a trampoline and a swing, which makes it pretty big for London. And if you cut back the ivy it would be a good size.

ReallyTired Thu 28-Feb-13 22:30:41

It seems a tiny house for 400K. I know its London, but I got a 4 bed detached house for less in Herts.

I also thought the garden looked a good size

Baffledandbewildered Thu 28-Feb-13 23:07:22

Someoftheabove yep your right!!! We used to live in Montpellier vale se3 . Looked at the estate agent address duh !!! My brother lives around the corner from genesta road though smile is Plumstead that bad now ???

HazeltheMcWitch Fri 01-Mar-13 00:35:25

Interesting thread. I think that Celts are a race of people, FWIW.

What does it say about me that my thoughts on the house were: huge garden, like the doors, but that is definitely not safety glass. Have I inadvertently become all 'Elf and Safety?

flatbread south cheshire.

Skullnbones Fri 01-Mar-13 08:03:14

We live in a similar sized house, much bigger garden and front garden. 72k...don't like the doors btw

Maryz: there isn't a single definition of nation (unlike state, which would require it's own independent government that is recognised as legitimate by other states). It's mostly about people identifying as belonging to a particular nation. So Scotland and Wales are nations because people think of their national identity as Scottish or welsh. But (warning: massive generalisation coming) people in Northern Ireland haven't generally thought of themselves as Northern Irish specifically (historically people have tended to identify as British or Irish). Maybe the changes in the last decade or so mean that people do feel more Northern Irish as a distinctive national identy. I don't know. I'm sure some of the many northern Irish MNers could tell us.

Incidentally, I really don't like the house or the doors. The doors look like they're in the wrong house entirely.

Also, there are celts in England. Cornwall is a Celtic nation with it's own language and such like. (As is Brittany in France).

Goodness, those dividing doors did cause a lot of division!

FlouncingMintyy Fri 01-Mar-13 09:52:16

For non-Londoners, I just wanted to say that there are some lovely places in South London smile. Its just that the prices tend to be a little ott.

I am going out to lunch today with an old friend who is terribly successful by anyone's standards. He lives just round the corner from that Plumstead house in Shooter's Hill.

I used to live maybe a mile away. Had our bikes nicked from our garden shed in 8.5 years and that was it in all that time. I did a lot of walking in the local area and know most parts within 5 miles of my old house extremely well. Never felt unsafe particularly in that particular part of Plumstead - it's not near Woolwich or the high street. I'm hardly a hardened Londoner - I grew up in a ridiculously middle class village in Cornwall so believe me if anyone was going to feel unsafe there it would be me. Wouldn't want to live there but that's because of the hill!

Those statistics linked to are for the whole of Greenwich borough not just Plumstead. Greenwich borough contains several deprived areas, including some not far from that house but like most parts of London, you don't have to go far to see a total contrast in areas. Greenwich borough has crime stats no worse than any other London borough with obvious exceptions.

I don't like the doors, they're too ornate, look like they'd get scribbled on easily and are a bit of a faff frankly wink

See, the thing is, for many of us non-Londoners. £400k for a 4 bed end terrace doesn't sound cheap at all, even in a sought after area.

FlouncingMintyy Fri 01-Mar-13 10:01:17

I know. Its nuts.

mrsjay Fri 01-Mar-13 10:03:31

See, the thing is, for many of us non-Londoners. £400k for a 4 bed end terrace doesn't sound cheap at all, even in a sought after area.

^ ^ that would get you a bloody mansion where I live grin

impecuniousmarmoset Fri 01-Mar-13 10:05:34

1.3M for a 3-bed semi!!!!!! That's beyond insane. I know location is important but crikey. Can't imagine anyone with any amount of money would want to buy that house for 1.3M - I wouldn't, even if I was a billionaire!

The £1.3million house is an abomination of feature walls and 'live, love, laugh' cushions.

impecuniousmarmoset Fri 01-Mar-13 10:07:49

And is that a de-humidifier I see in picture 7?!

I'm always slightly worried when people coordinate their kitchen and bedroom units...

FlouncingMintyy Fri 01-Mar-13 10:13:43

I noticed the de-humidifier, yes.

In fact, that house could be the poster child for the what will seriously date your house to this very moment in 40 years time. It has just about everything listed on the thread.

DumSpiroSpero Fri 01-Mar-13 10:19:44

The £1.3million house is an abomination of feature walls and 'live, love, laugh' cushions.

But it's in Dulwich Village!

<gives self a slap>


Viviennemary Fri 01-Mar-13 12:02:59

I couldn't live in a bedroom with cupboards over my head. I'd always be scared they'd fall down in the night. One night there was an almighty crash and a shelf in DD's room fell down. (Not above her bed thank goodness). DH said she shouldn't have put books on it. hmm

yuleheart Fri 01-Mar-13 14:46:25
yuleheart Fri 01-Mar-13 14:47:07
yuleheart Fri 01-Mar-13 14:48:47

...check out pic 13 for a bit of over the top footballer/wag decorating....

Eurgh. The curtains - everywhere!

FetaCheeny Fri 01-Mar-13 15:58:23

Surely that 1.3 million property is an error? Please say it is. It says last previous sale 375k in 2005. How could it quadruple in value in 8 years?
I'm currently looking to buy in south east London - 1.3 mil is slightly(!) above our price range grin

WhatKindofFool Fri 01-Mar-13 16:02:17

I rather like the bathroom, esp the sink!

LadyIsabellaWrotham Fri 01-Mar-13 16:25:13

Dear heavens that Dulwich house is shocking. Even I think that's a feeble excuse for a garden, and for a million quid I'd want a bloody tube line.

redplasticspoon Fri 01-Mar-13 23:18:19

A similar property to the one posted in the OP in a fashionable London area

The difference in price is quite stark!

lljkk Sat 02-Mar-13 12:21:30

The UK doesn't have "ghettos"

Ooh, American compatriot was very confused by the East LA riots in '92: "How can that be a slum?! They have palm trees!"

Believe me, you live there, you know it's a slum.

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