to be livid at someone parking in our off street parking and using it as a carwash?!

(207 Posts)
Guntie Mon 18-Feb-13 14:17:29

For the last 3 weeks when I come and go there has been a white van parked in our off street parking spot. Normally my DH parks there but he has be driving to work recently so it has been free.

So, this opportunist has taken it upon themselves to park there everyday once my DH goes to work.

I typically see the van when I am coming and going from appointments and have never seen the person.

This morning when I was on the way to the doctor I could hear someone using our external tap. When I went outside there was the driver with buckets and soap using our water cleaning his van in our car parking spot?!

AIBU to think WTF is this person doing on my property, in my car park, bringing buckets and soap using my water to clean their f'ing van?!

As I came out he just looked at me and continued on washing the van covering our front garden with soap suds and mess. I was flabbergasted and didn't say anything to him. I was doing urine hold for the doctors appointment and didn't want to wet myself in front of him

I thought given he had been rumbled he might leave and not come back. Not so. When I came back from my doctors appointment his (Very clean) van was still there.

I emailed my DH to make sure he hadn't rented the car park to anyone and he hasn't but he equally couldn't seem to care less that someone is on our property, using it as their personal car park and washing facility hmm

coffeeinbed Mon 18-Feb-13 14:19:39

Livid would not even begin to describe it.
The cheek that!

snuffaluffagus Mon 18-Feb-13 14:20:02

Well why didn't you say anything? He'll take your lack of objection as acceptance.. I'd have just done a cheery, oh sorry, this is my parking space and my tap.. could you move your van as my husband is on his way home and will need to park.

soverylucky Mon 18-Feb-13 14:20:40

If this is a proper parking space that you own (which it sounds like it is) then you are nbu. I can't believe the tap thing - surely that is theft? What if you were on a water meter? I would call 101 and ask for advice.

BreadForMyBREADGUN Mon 18-Feb-13 14:21:10

Note on the screen, "this is private space, please don't park here again"

Or save that pee sample and tip it into his screenwash.

ceramicunicorn Mon 18-Feb-13 14:22:37

Is it very clearly your space/ tap?

Camwombat Mon 18-Feb-13 14:23:22

Yanbu.

I would ask what possibly thought processes went into thinking it was reasonable to park in someone elses private parking, but then to casually use someone elses tap, which I assume is attached to your house, is beyond belief and downright cheeky.

Do you have a sign on your space/s marking it as private parking? Can you also turn your tap off internally?

CheddarGorgeous Mon 18-Feb-13 14:23:34

Love a parking thread. Love it. Was just thinking "hmmm, there hasn't been a good parking thread for a while."

YANBU. If you see him again call the non-emergency police number.

Is your water on a meter?

wanderingcloud Mon 18-Feb-13 14:24:04

I'd be wild with rage! Is your water metered? You could be paying for him to wash his van!

YABU not to say anything once you saw the driver though, hurry or not, as now you appear to tacitly allowed him to do it.

Is the off street parking clearly private property? If so, I'd be livid!

(if he cleans the van again and leaves it there, I would also be 'accidentally' emptying the hoover bag over it, making sure it was still nice and damp so the dust would stick. Or else cut off the water to the outside tap).

If he's parked on your property, I wonder if you could legally get him towed (at his expense)? You'd probably have to put up a warning sign first, but it'd be worth it if he persists, cheeky bugger. (IANAL so check this out carefully!)

HollyBerryBush Mon 18-Feb-13 14:24:50

I would have seen red and gone dipshit I'm afraid. Parking space, fine, wouldnt have bothered me if I wasn't using it but I assume you have a water meter and would be paying for his business? Dipshit. Seriously dipshit. You cannot imagine the level of dipshittiness I would have gone into.

gordyslovesheep Mon 18-Feb-13 14:25:42

I would be LIVID - we are on a meter as well so I would bill the fucker x

Sugarice Mon 18-Feb-13 14:27:55

I would have had the red mist descend , lost any dignity and told him to move his van in no uncertain terms

Cheeky Bastard doesn't even begin to describe him and his nerve, parking space and your tap!

Words fail me! angry

Guntie Mon 18-Feb-13 14:28:09

I didn't confront him as I was on the way to an antenatal appointment and was urine holding. If I had I probably would have peed on him.

Also, in the back of my mind I thought I should check with my DH if he had rented the car park out to anyone for some money.

It is very clearly a car park that we own. Its completely off road and right by our front door.

I am livid. I feel like it is an invasion of our privacy and personal property. Both properties on either side of us have vacant off street parking, why did he choose ours?!

fluffyraggies Mon 18-Feb-13 14:29:13

O.M.G

He is parked on your property?
He has used your tap?
He has put soapy water over your garden????????

Nooooooooooooo. Call non-emergency police now, please.

I am livid for you! I need a lie down!

(I am the type who gets twitchy when people park with in 6 feet of our property)

Cailinsalach Mon 18-Feb-13 14:29:43

Well, I would just explain that it was a private parking space and he wasn't to park there any more.

If he ignored that, then I would step it up. Oh yes, I would get scary. Very scary. He wouldn't like me when I get scary.

First off, I would adopt a disapproving expression.

Then I would produce my right index finger and waggle it, threateningly. If he is still parking there, then I would come back to Mumsnet and get better advice than I have just offered.

Whoknowswhocares Mon 18-Feb-13 14:29:56

Seriously, why on earth have you not done something about it? Note on windscreen could have happened day 2! The idea of not saying something when you caught the bugger red handed just baffles me tbh

Sugarice Mon 18-Feb-13 14:30:05

Can you install one of those bollard things which you raise or fit when you leave your drive?

specialsubject Mon 18-Feb-13 14:31:32

oh, and turn off the supply to the tap.

WoTmania Mon 18-Feb-13 14:32:06

YANBU - are you on a water meter? I think a short, brisk note wold be in order. Is there any way you can block the parking spot off in the daytime?

EuroShagmore Mon 18-Feb-13 14:32:11

I am baffled as to why you have not done anything about it. Why didn't you put a note on the windscreen on day 1? Today, why didn't you say "this is a private parking space. I'll be back in 15 minutes and if the van isn't gone by then I'll be calling the police"?

maisiejoe123 Mon 18-Feb-13 14:32:34

I am laughing that this tbh. Surely he cannot realise that this is YOUR space! The fact that you didnt say anything hasnt helped tbh.

Wondering where he thinks the tap has come from though.

Guntie Mon 18-Feb-13 14:33:46

I am sure we are paying for the water. Its the tap that comes off my laundry, so I can hear it from the inside when it is being used. My DH literally couldn't care less. But we are massively broke right now and have a baby on the way. Also, I hate the thought of this random guy hanging around my front door.

HoHoHoNoYouDont Mon 18-Feb-13 14:33:53

OMG, I am so worked up just reading this!

I wouldn't even bother speaking to him, I'd just watch the expression on his face when the boys in blue turn up.

HollyBerryBush Mon 18-Feb-13 14:35:19

Sorry, pregnancy hormones would have done for me - I'd have lost it (I remember being irrational when pregnant) he'd have had me sat in the middle of his soap suds hurling clumps of grass at his van! none of this mother earth shit about me

WorraLiberty Mon 18-Feb-13 14:36:34

So you needed a wee...I get that.

But it's still a piss poor excuse for not having a very quick word.

Sugarice Mon 18-Feb-13 14:37:18

I know you're pregnant but don't be a walkover.

Tell him to get off your property, I see you say you're skint so probably don't want to pay for a barrier to stop him accessing your drive.

In that case threaten him with the police and mean it as he sounds hard faced and will probably call your bluff to see if you really do.

The cheeky bastard. I am speechless at the audacity. I currently have a parked car that is winding me up but I have no real redress, so I need to vent on somewhere. Get out there and leave a large note telling him to do one.

Will the police bother?

zzzzz Mon 18-Feb-13 14:37:55

Well stop being such a wuss and tell him to move his car and stop using your water.

hmm

HoHoHoNoYouDont Mon 18-Feb-13 14:38:06

OP, I can't believe you're DH isn't bothered. I bet he would be if this cheeky git turned out to be an opportunist thief and broke into your house!

I just can't believe the cheek of some people. Talk about front.

fluffyraggies Mon 18-Feb-13 14:38:14

"My DH literally couldn't care less."

What what???

<hyperventilates>

ZenNudist Mon 18-Feb-13 14:38:57

What others said. Note under windscreen and if necessary install bollard

HoHoHoNoYouDont Mon 18-Feb-13 14:39:26

(grin) at fluffyraggies posts.

Guntie Mon 18-Feb-13 14:39:38

I know I should have resolved the issue from the start. I have been meaning to ask my DH about it for the last few weeks and it has completely slipped my mind.

I couldn't confront him this morning when I saw him as I had to get to the doctors and was doing a pee hold. I was in agony and really needed to get to the doctors straight away. (UTI if you must know).

HoHoHoNoYouDont Mon 18-Feb-13 14:39:41

Or even grin !!!

TheSeniorWrangler Mon 18-Feb-13 14:40:08

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

atthewelles Mon 18-Feb-13 14:40:25

I agree with other posters. Put a note on his windscreen telling him he is parked on private property and if his van is parked there again you will have it towed away.

Lurking

cherryonthetop2013 Mon 18-Feb-13 14:40:47

Next time he parks there block him in so he's got to come and knock on your door to ask you to move your car. Then you can use the opportunity to say something like "f off and park somewhere else!"

Rooneyisalwaysmoaning Mon 18-Feb-13 14:40:54

You need a wheel clamp. Or a notice advertising that you'll use one on anything parked there.

I don't understand why you have allowed this to continue.

Whoknowswhocares Mon 18-Feb-13 14:41:02

I imagine its more a case of 'dh literally doesn't want to sort it out in case of unpleasantness

One of you is going to have to find some balls. As you are pregnant, I suggest it be him!

Rooneyisalwaysmoaning Mon 18-Feb-13 14:41:29

also how is holding your urine a good thing if you have a UTI?

zzzzz Mon 18-Feb-13 14:42:30

So just deal with it next time you see him. Your bladder won't always be a priority.

maisiejoe123 Mon 18-Feb-13 14:43:12

Women up! Either a cheery 'this is a private parking space and that tap belongs to me' or more firm but FGS - dont do nothing....

Meaning to ask about your DH for the last few weeks.... This needs sorting out now

DinglebertWangledack Mon 18-Feb-13 14:43:59

I'd sling a bucket of dirty water over his van and leave a note saying thats what you get for parking on my property you twat but then again I am pregnant and hormonal too and theres no mother earth bollocks about me either!

WoTmania Mon 18-Feb-13 14:44:28

In that case technically what he's doing is theft (the water). Leave a note, if the van reappears have a word with him. Are there wheelie bins you could put on the drive as a deterrant.

pingu2209 Mon 18-Feb-13 14:45:26

I would smear large amounts of mud over his clean van. In fact I may even be tempted by poo smearing - but that is disgusting and I couldn't bear the smell whilst doing it.

SashaSashays Mon 18-Feb-13 14:48:33

LOL, this thread has given me a much needed boost, whoever posted 'wild with rage', thanks grin

If he isn't there and you aren't sure where he's gone (am assuming it must be near by) leave a note.

Otherwise wait until you see him and tell him to move his fucking van.

Can you turn the water off to that tap? Also can you put the bins or your own car in the space?

Oh, a parking thread about a real parking problem for once!

I think I'd call non-emergency number only if the note-leaving didnt deter him.

Good luck OP, with the parking, the UTI, and new baby.

Rooneyisalwaysmoaning Mon 18-Feb-13 14:49:28

way to escalate a problem hmm

there are grown up ways of sorting out this sort of thing, people.

Rooneyisalwaysmoaning Mon 18-Feb-13 14:49:51

that was to pingu.

i would leave a polite note on the van.

LiveItUp Mon 18-Feb-13 14:53:09

Write on his van - in bright red lippy - your message, having turned the water off so he can't clean it off there and then and will have to drive with bright red whatever's all over his van grin

Whoknowswhocares Mon 18-Feb-13 14:53:45

Simple note along the lines of
'This parking space and obviously the water you were seen using today are privately owned. Further use of either will be reported to the police'

pippop1 Mon 18-Feb-13 14:53:46

Are you sure that your DH knows nothing about this? Surely most people would be very shocked and take action.

I can't believer you haven't said anything. Is he gone by the time your DH gets back from work?

FrequentFlyerRandomDent Mon 18-Feb-13 14:56:43

Pls do not waste good lipstick for the note though.

But do leave a clear note. I'd call 101 for advice if unsure.

I take it as read you own this offroad parking spot outright.

Worth calling the police on the non emergency number. They should be able to talk to him particularly as he is now using your water tap to wash his van.

Do not put any sort of note on his van as this would be ignored.

toffeelolly Mon 18-Feb-13 14:59:05

What a fucking nerve he had, sorry do not know how you have not spoke to him about it, you need to tell him not to park here or get your husband to. So he is also in your garden taking your water what a fucking cheek he has .If you do not want to say to him then call the police . Some people have a real fucking cheek!

Guntie Mon 18-Feb-13 14:59:17

I probably am just a massive wuss as someone said blush

I suppose I just want my DH to sort out the problem and for me to never have to see this guy again and not feel like our personal property is violated.

I am sure he is is a builder working on one of the nearby properties. There is no other reason why he would park here other than the free water

We are planning on doing building works in the next few months but I don't think planning or budget would approve of us doing anything make the parking place more secure.

Sigh.

starfishmummy Mon 18-Feb-13 15:00:18

Do you think he is supposed to be using one of the other spaces and has got muddled up? It does seem to be such a strange thing to be doing randomly iyswim.

Whoknowswhocares Mon 18-Feb-13 15:01:47

It may or may not be ignored. But why on earth should the police have to get involved as a FIRST step? That's a ridiculous use of public services!
They will almost certainly ask the OP what steps she has tried to resolve the issue. To say 'none, even though i have seen him in person' would hardly strengthen her case in getting their help would it?

Guntie Mon 18-Feb-13 15:03:14

Oh and yes he always leaves by the time my DH gets home and I am pretty sure my DH knows nothing about it.

I just don't see why my husband would lie about not knowing? If he had rented out the car park to someone for cash I would have no problem with it and he knows that.

We are having money problems until we get some payments in a few months. Having the extra income for the car parking spot would be a god send right now, to be honest.

pippop1 Mon 18-Feb-13 15:04:04

Does your house look unoccupied? Do you leave a light on when you are out in the afternoon/evening?

You said that you are planning to do building works in the next few months so it might not look occupied for some reason. It's v odd.

BoundandRebound Mon 18-Feb-13 15:04:09

Type out a parking and amenities invoice and leave it on his windshield

I bet you won't see him for dust

Guntie Mon 18-Feb-13 15:06:16

starfish I don't see how.. The building works are happening the other end of the street and I think he must know my DH's hours as the tap starting running not even 10 minutes after he left for work this morning and it seems he is always gone by the time my DH is back from work.

Whoknowswhocares Mon 18-Feb-13 15:08:56

If DH is never there at the right time, how do you expect him to deal with the bloke?

Guntie Mon 18-Feb-13 15:09:10

pippop all the work we are doing is internal. It looks like a well cared for lived in house from the outside (I think). There are our bins that are full and we get post here etc. The house next door to us in unoccupied and on the market. But I don't think they have a tap there....

Send him my way - I'm massivly sleep deprived with a recalcitrant toddler on the rampage who I'm trying not to shout at - I could REALLY use the outlet for mental health (and child welfare) reasons.

zzzzz Mon 18-Feb-13 15:09:36

Well go out and rent him the space yourself. grin

Extra for water obviously.

ENormaSnob Mon 18-Feb-13 15:10:01

You and your dh may as well bend over and take it up the shitter.

uggmum Mon 18-Feb-13 15:12:00

I can turn off my outside tap from inside the house. I recommend that you look to do this ASAP. That will stop the washing of the van. You could always buy a flip up bollard to stop your parking space from being used.

rodandtheemu Mon 18-Feb-13 15:13:31

ha ha ha enormas actually laughed out with that.....but if was roughly along the lines of what i was going to say!

Cornycabernet Mon 18-Feb-13 15:14:25

is he still there?

Iggly Mon 18-Feb-13 15:15:06

Rent the space then?

And stop being a wuss.

I remember telling my nice neighbour to stop their cleaner from using out bin. I felt petty but it is mine. If someone parked on my driveway, man alive I would have to keep my sarcasm in check but I'd say something.

Sugarice Mon 18-Feb-13 15:17:20

Come om OP, you now have the Mumsnet collective behind you grin

If that brazen twat turns up tomorrow and parks in your drive tell him to move it.

If he won't and gets arsey, call the police .

sudaname Mon 18-Feb-13 15:17:56

I am really trying to think of some reason why he thinks this is ok. I just simply cant believe that anyone would have the nerve to blatantly do this and think it's ok.

is it possible someone else has told him he can use a parking space - maybe the owners of empty property next door and he has got his wires crossed which drive he is allowed to use. Or maybe he thinks the drive belongs to the empty house for sale next door - still cheeky and opportunist but not quite as blatant as doing this to an occupied house.

maisiejoe123 Mon 18-Feb-13 15:19:34

I dont know why this is still going on... I do understand that you might feel a bit nervous but you can do it in a cheery way. Nothing aggressive if you dont feel comfortable.

A few weeks ago someone from Young Offenders turned up at the door selling some tea cloths. As we had been burgled a few months ago I had no time for him and said so. TBH I was on my own, the road is quiet, but I was so flaming angry that I let rip. And to be fair he was OK considering the burlgalry was nothing to do with him! He said he had morals and would never burgle someone.

Afterwards I did wonder why I was so mouthy. Think it is because I have teenagers and I know that they can be like.

What you are asking me to do is not unreasonable AT ALL. Maybe he just hasnt recongised that the space is yours considering that you said nothing when he saw you.

MrsDeVere Mon 18-Feb-13 15:20:16

You really should have peed on him.

maddening Mon 18-Feb-13 15:21:35

Can you put anything out to prevent people getting vehicles on to your propert

AvonCallingBarksdale Mon 18-Feb-13 15:21:46

OK, OP, pregnant or not, you need to get a little braver here!
YOU: "Excuse me, sir/my good man/old chap/mate, you are parked in my parking space and you are using my water supply to clean your van, both of which I am asking you to stop doing. Thanks."

He doesn't stop, you tell him you'll be phoning the non-emergency police number.

sudaname Mon 18-Feb-13 15:24:26

Are you surrounded by any Housing Association properties or is yours an ex one. Sometimes builders /contractors who are working on these properties seem to have the attitude that they are allowed to park anywhere on the grounds 'it's all HA property.

I want to throttle him and your DH myself. I would at least call the non emergency police if l wasnt up to any polite questioning him myself or confrontation.

WannabeWilloughby Mon 18-Feb-13 15:26:25

This has to be a case of crossed wires, he obviously thinks he's allowed to be there. Hopefully when u tell him, he will be apologetic....if not then follow him home and park on his drive! (yes I am massively immature) grin

Guntie Mon 18-Feb-13 15:28:58

My DH said he would contact the property developer who is doing work on the street and ask him to make sure his builders are not parking on our spot anymore. (I have no idea if this guy is working for the developer but I think it is highly likely)

On a completely unrelated note I have just noticed blood spotting. I'm now worried. I have no idea if it is to do with the UTI or if its something to be worried about.

This day sucks.

Guntie Mon 18-Feb-13 15:30:23

sudaname no its not HA property. There are fences etc between the properties, but I can completely see your point.

Sugarice Mon 18-Feb-13 15:30:30

Phone your GP/Midwife about the spotting and get advice.

OldBeanbagz Mon 18-Feb-13 15:33:56

You really ought to have a look at making sure you can turn off your outside tap from inside the house. We have this since i discovered the next door neighbour's window cleaner using our metered water because they don't have an outdoor tap (i wouldn't mind but these are the neighbours who never even speak to us).

Plus some previous neighbours of ours had their hallway filled with water by Halloween pranksters who ran a hosepipe from the outdoor tap through the letterbox shock

I would definately have a stern word with the van man when he parks there next.

EuroShagmore Mon 18-Feb-13 15:35:05

Type up an invoice and leave it under his wiper.

"For use of parking space at [address] a daily charge of £20 per day : X days

For use of our water supply: £10.

Please pop the money through the letter box within 24 hours otherwise we will send the bailiffs round!"

Sorry to hear about the spotting.

Guntie Mon 18-Feb-13 15:38:33

I have looked in the laundry and if there were a way to turn the tap off. There might be but it would be behind the washing machine which there is no way I would be able to move.

YouTheCat Mon 18-Feb-13 15:39:41

Just put a note under his wipers that says if he parks there again, you'll have him towed.

Or his van at least

Lemonylemon Mon 18-Feb-13 15:41:19

OP: Time to turn off the outside tap and put your bins outside so the fecker can't park there again. If he tries to park there again, phone 101 and get the community police around - they do attend to stuff like this.

FWIW: My next door neighbour parked on my front garden to wash her car (without asking) or knocking on the door afterwards to explain. She was very shocked when she got a snippy note from me. Then apologised (which was OK) and tried to say "she was in a bad place" at the time.... Then got very shirty with me when I raised my eyebrows. (There is history about that last comment).

sudaname Mon 18-Feb-13 15:42:03

Ah right l see. Only thought as my mum and dad used to live in an ex council street and they were one of first to buy their property and had a large open drive with hardstanding for two cars. Often used to look out the window to see contractors working on one of other houses parked in their drive (or turning in it as it is a tight cul de sac). They used to get outrageous comments such as 'well where else can we park?' or 'it's council work love,we can park here'.

Anyway so my only other idea is that it's a mix up - maybe he's got permission but just on wrong drive.

Never mind all that now, anyway. I agree you should call the midwife for advice. All the best, hope everything ok..

FannyFifer Mon 18-Feb-13 15:43:47

So a man was cleaning his van on your drive, outside your door, using your water and you said nowt, walked past him & said nothing?? WTF?

Seriously, you need to get the pregnant woman rage, no one argues with a pissed of pregnant bird!

Phone your Dr re the spotting.

BlatantLies Mon 18-Feb-13 15:44:03

Turn off the water supply and next time you see tell him to park elsewhere as it is private property. I would be cheery about it. I think it's a bit odd that your DH would go to the building company without even speaking to the guy.

You could leave something in the parking spot tomorrow with big sign saying private, do not park here.

You do sound a bit wussy but you are perfectly entitled to as you are pregnant and have a UTI. In fact rather than criticise your wussy'ness you can have a thanks and a brew grin

Good luck.

BalloonSlayer Mon 18-Feb-13 15:45:00

"I was in a bad place"

"yes you were, love, you were parked in my bloody front garden"

PipkinsPal Mon 18-Feb-13 15:47:02

Smear a bit of vaseline under his windscreen wipers and when he uses them it will create a God Almighty mess. On second thoughts he could have an accident.

sudaname Mon 18-Feb-13 15:47:08

Oldbeanbags my face is like this > shock @ your post. Will definitely be turning ours off next time we go away - never thought of that.

Guntie Mon 18-Feb-13 15:48:40

What I don't understand was water washing asides, are private car parking sports just communal property? As in am I being petty to not want someone to park there even though it is mostly clear during the day? It probably seems very petty but I really feel like its on our property, I don't want someone parking there everyday, even if we are not using it.

Guntie Mon 18-Feb-13 15:55:41

Just spoke to the midwife and she said "meh, just keep an eye on the bleeding" sometimes I wonder what situation you would have to be in to warrant seeing someone...

sudaname Mon 18-Feb-13 15:58:36

I dont understand now. Do you have open plan gardens at front with various tarmaced parking bays leading straight off the road which could be mistaken for just parking bays for the street. Or is the parking spot on your front garden and marked on your deeds as your property. Also deeds should contain any limits or conditions on your ownership of the drive if any exist.
Bit like my m-i-l owns the path round her house but has to keep it maintained and free for rear access to other properties in row. But by same token they have to help towards it's upkeep as part of condition of keeping it as access.

Pigsmummy Mon 18-Feb-13 16:00:24

Before getting the police involved write a note and leave it on the windscreen, if he is still there try to talk to him? If he is still parking there then get the police involved.

BigPigLittlePig Mon 18-Feb-13 16:03:00

guntie are private car parking sports just communal property? - um no, that's why they're private. I would suggest a polite "do fuck off" is in order. He wouldn't have known what hit him if he'd come across me when I was pregnant - tolerant I was not grin

Guntie Mon 18-Feb-13 16:04:08

sudaname there are fences on each side of the front garden and half of the front of the garden. The only place there is not a fence in where we drive the car in. The car park is clearly on our property. You have to drive over the foot path to get to it and it extends down the side of our house. There is no way you could confuse it for a parking bay for the street. Its on the deeds of our property, categorically.

Ok, I admit I may have missed the answer to this but why don't you just put a note on his windscreen? No confrontation necessary.

And can you turn off the water to the outside tap?

BobbiFleckmann Mon 18-Feb-13 16:10:53

you are very tolerant not to have placed a lot of sharp nails on the ground by now. Can you put your bins or something else in the space after your husband leaves for work? or get a friend / neighbour to park there?

Guntie Mon 18-Feb-13 16:12:57

Notadragon

The short answer is I am a wuss. The long answer is I am pregnant, with a UTI and have just started spotting. I don't want to write a note and risk having a confrontation with a random man right now.

It doesn't look like I can turn the water off. Its part of our laundry and I would need to move the washing machine to turn it off sad

Also, given he has had a nice wash today, will he need to be washing it anytime soon? So even if I turn the water off, I don't think it will make a difference now.

sudaname Mon 18-Feb-13 16:13:10

Sorry right was just trying to imagine, cos some of the newer built streets do have a 'random' lay out and even those with little fences/lines of shrubs to define borders etc it's still not as clear cut as traditional walled gardens/driveways.
Well that just leaves me with one option - he's either got the hide of a rhino or there's been a misunderstanding. Very odd.

5madthings Mon 18-Feb-13 16:13:40

Cheeky fucking bastard! I am on a water meter and would bill him for the water.

sudaname Mon 18-Feb-13 16:14:04

Actually that's two options !

grin

hugoagogo Mon 18-Feb-13 16:16:50

As you describe it then it seems impossible that he has just made a mistake. Make sure to leave him a note next time he tries it. If this doesn't work leave a note mentioning that if it happens again you will call the police and do it.

I do feel for you, this is the last thing you need right now.

ReluctantMother Mon 18-Feb-13 16:17:14

Did you happen to note his number plate? I t hunk you should ring 101 and ask advice.

Guntie Mon 18-Feb-13 16:17:40

sudaname I know right... Part of me thinks its the developer who told him he could park there. He is always taking liberties on the street.

ReluctantMother Mon 18-Feb-13 16:17:41

Lol at auto correct! *I think

Guntie Mon 18-Feb-13 16:22:26

reluctant, oh god, have I written something outrageous and not realised it? blush

SomethingProfound Mon 18-Feb-13 16:25:30

Perhaps this this will get the message through or this.

FoxtrotFoxtrotSierra Mon 18-Feb-13 16:28:45

You don't need to have a confrontation, just pop a polite note on his windscreen saying you think there has been a misunderstanding and he's parking on your property without permission. You seem to know when he arrives/leaves so can avoid him. If he parks after you've left a note then call 101.

EauRouge Mon 18-Feb-13 16:30:52

There must have been a misunderstanding, surely someone cannot be THAT rude?

If you don't want to confront him (understandable) then if he does it again can you just say 'has someone said you can park here?'. And if he says no then call the cops.

Mutt Mon 18-Feb-13 16:34:29

Am a bit hmm at those suggesting to call the police. I would imagine the police would ask you "Have you asked him to move?" and I'd feel not only a wuss but a time-waster as well when I said "No".

Either tell him or put a polite, but very clear, note on the screen.

lljkk Mon 18-Feb-13 16:39:08

I bet VanMan has been misinformed about whether he can use that spot.
You must put a note on the windscreen, though, put your DH's mobile number on the note?

ophelia275 Mon 18-Feb-13 17:58:39

WTAF shock!

OldBeanbagz Mon 18-Feb-13 18:03:03

If you can't turn the tap off from inside, then use one of these

In the meantime make sure you get his number plate and ask him not to park there. Surely he can't just expect to park on someone's drive and wash his van with their water?

Guntie Mon 18-Feb-13 18:06:49

oldbean well if they sell these then I mustn't be the only one with this problem!!!

Yfronts Mon 18-Feb-13 19:35:53

put a note on his window saying he is ok to park there during the day as long as he gives you 5 pounds a day?

Much as I would personally go apeshit at the twat, you could try something like this:

Tap Lock

if you don't want random nobbers nicking your water.

Oops!! X post with OldBeanBags!

HecateWhoopass Mon 18-Feb-13 20:15:18

Would you consider taping a note to your tap

OI. Cheeky Fecker. Stop parking on my property and using my water! I have to pay for that!

grin

CaptainVonTrapp Mon 18-Feb-13 20:20:52

Usually the stop tap for the outside tap would be near the one for the inside tap. Probably where the pipe comes into the house. Near the water meter? Turn it off.

Practice politely saying "Could you move your van off my drive please"

DontmindifIdo Mon 18-Feb-13 20:27:46

Well, for tomorrow, can your DH leave the car blocking the space or do you know anyone who doesn't need their car in the day who'd park in your space for you? At least if he sees it in use he'll have to go elsewhere.

Or if he's there tomorrow, could you pop out when he parks and say "sorry, there seems to be a bit of a mix up, this is our private parking space and I thought you where my husband's friend he mentioned would be using it, seems that's not until next week. Can you move your van now please?" (delivered with winning smile)

sudaname Mon 18-Feb-13 20:39:25

maybe its a scam - he's been scammed that is . maybe someone has sold him use of your drive, knowing it's empty during the day. This happened in London, or around London a while ago, l seem to remember. Somebody only found ou when they went home unexpectedly in the middle of the day and found some random parked in their drive.

sudaname Mon 18-Feb-13 20:42:08

Am l clutching at straws now grin

It's just his blatant audacity about it makes me think there is a misunderstanding of some sort.

NameChanger4 Mon 18-Feb-13 20:45:23

shock angryshock angryshock angryshock angryshock angry

Dh and I are apoplectic about this - absolutely outrageous!
The thing is, as you've let him do this for 3 weeks he probably thinks you're fine about it. Next thing, he'll have a deckchair out and be sitting reading his paper. You don't have an outside power socket anywhere do you, so he can plug his kettle in?
At the very least block the drive with your bins in future. I thought I'd seen some outrageous liberties on threads before but that takes the biscuit. You've got your very own cock van lodger - get rid as soon as you can.

CSIJanner Mon 18-Feb-13 21:00:54

Take his number plate plus picture and report to the police using 101. Leave him a note telling him it's private property, he has been stealing metered water and the police have been notified. cheeky f*****!

BlatantLies Mon 18-Feb-13 21:07:51

At least make some money out of it.

pigsDOfly Mon 18-Feb-13 21:08:09

Oh I can fully believe someone would do this. Not as cheeky, I know, but at my last house people visiting next door would frequently park across my drive, even when my car was parked there.
I would get various excuses, one being 'oh I didn't think you'd be going out'. This at about 9.30 one Saturday evening. Bloody cheek! You might not want to invite me to your party, but I do have a life, thank you.
Another time, after finishing a 10 hour working day, I'd popped home before going to the supermarket. Someone visiting, the other side this time, blocked my car in by parking across my drive (must have been home all of 15 minutes) and was really rude when I told him to move his car. Trust me I didn't hold back. And I wasn't even pregnant!!
This sort of blatant rudeness really winds me up.
He won't stop until you confront him OP. Good luck.

NeverWinsMNComps Mon 18-Feb-13 21:09:23

For the princely sum of 20p, I'll paint you a tasteful, hand-lettered sign:

Caution: Private Parking

Wankbadgers will be peed upon. Then towed.

TheCraicDealer Mon 18-Feb-13 21:11:00

Is parking an issue on your road? Because the only way this could get weirder is is there was plenty of space for any number of vans out on the street.

It could be he knows your DP is out all day and doesn't think you'll have the balls to say anything to him. Prove the dickhead wrong.

racmun Mon 18-Feb-13 21:11:50

I would be furious. Can you park another car across him so he can't get out?

I'm sure he wouldn't rush back....

TheCraicDealer Mon 18-Feb-13 21:15:56

PLAN- Leave DH at work, return to home and make sure builder has abandoned van. Park car up drive as close to the van as possible. When builder returns and asks you to move your car, stare blankly at him and say, "I've no idea what you're on about mate". Then when he's about to lose the bap, go, "you parked your car up someone else's drive? Who does that?!". And then say you'll do it again every time he does it. Every. Time.

Guntie Mon 18-Feb-13 21:26:31

namechager thank you! That's exactly how I feel. I'm filled with dread at the though of him pulling in tomorrow and washing his smalls in the bucket tomorrow. Why come to my house and wash your car? Wash it at your own place!!! He had lots of paraphernalia with him too, so it was obviously planned...

I can't drive either so I couldn't park him in..

So angry.

DH spoke to the developer and he said no one should be parking there.

DontmindifIdo Mon 18-Feb-13 21:31:26

Call round tonight, find someone to park on your drive!

lalabaloo Mon 18-Feb-13 21:44:21

Where abouts in the country are you? We'll send an army of mumsnetters to park on your drive!

zzzzz Mon 18-Feb-13 21:52:34

Sprinklers?

elah11 Mon 18-Feb-13 21:55:19

I know its hard but you need to stand up for yourself, being pregnant is no excuse smile. He is taking the p*ss and you are letting him. On the bleeding issue, try not to worry, I had it on 2 out of 3 pregnancies and all was well, its not uncommon xx

Polite note under windscreen wiper "Hello, this is a private driveway and water supply - please do not use again".

If he does, call 101. No point going straight in to Police or aggression as it may be a genuine understanding (although bloody unlikely).

Have you been at home these past three weeks when you've seen the van, or walking past your house? Were you not quite startled?!

Years back someone abandoned a car in my garden (we have a road at the end of the gardens and there was a large space there in front of the gate)
My car is parked at the front of the house.
I phoned the police and they asked if the car was blocking any vehicles (it wasn't) and as it was on private land it didn't matter that the tax was out of date.
shock
I knew they couldn't tell me who owned the car, but I was angry that there was bu**er all I could do.
I wrote a note and put it in a bag and taped it onto the windscreen. The note was removed but the car wasn't.

ReluctantMother Mon 18-Feb-13 22:35:48

Is it still there, 70isa?

TiddlerTiddler Mon 18-Feb-13 22:49:50

Our group of houses and apartments have off road parking. A local business has somehow got hold of the entry codes and park their car there every single day of the week. It alternates depending on which lady is working. I know it's them because I have followed them! Haha. It really pisses me off because we pay a service charge each year which has charges for maintenance of car parking area and automatic gates. I can't see why they can't simply cough up for a business parking permit. They park in the "visitor" space which some days is fine when it's quiet but other times they are stopping legitimate visitors from parking. Am going to tackle it now after reading this thread! Haha.

TheCraicDealer Mon 18-Feb-13 22:59:48

Tiddler, my DSis lived in a block of flats in the city centre where people kept letting themselves in with the visitor code late at night for "parties". Eventually the building management company just changed the code. Buggered the genuine, sober visitors, but at least no-one vommed in the lift again.

TiddlerTiddler Mon 18-Feb-13 23:08:18

Good idea craic dealer. Will do that.

So you actually walked straight past this guy washing his van on YOUR DRIVE and said nothing?

Ffs you are being utterly ridiculous. Just tell him. Or you might as well do what a previous poster rather eloquently suggested about taking it up the shitter grin

And I don't buy the urine hold nonsense. If you genuinely thought you might piss yourself nothing wrong with going for a wee then coming back out and saying 'nope, thought I must have imagined it but you're really and actually here on my land using my water to clean your van. Please move immediately'

You don't need to have a full bladder when going to the gp for a uti. Or a regular antenatal appointment. Only a scan (and actually some places don't suggest this anymore). Even then if you had a big drink immediately your bladder would probably have been full by the time you were seen.

YANBU to be pissed off with this but what do you honestly expect if you've been letting him get away with it for 3 Weeks and then walked past him and didn't say anything?

holidaysarenice Tue 19-Feb-13 02:19:28

Chocolate spread his van tomoro?

ripsishere Tue 19-Feb-13 03:17:42

Throw bread on the roof and watch his paint be pecked by pigeons.

Bearandcub Tue 19-Feb-13 03:40:08

You know he probably won't come back now, but if he does definitely do what Ripishere says.

wintersweet Tue 19-Feb-13 04:31:26

Have you, or can you manufacture a VERY dust rug to shake on the windward side of his van? Also next time he parks there I would place something like my car right behind him...

Guntie Tue 19-Feb-13 10:45:17

Been periodically looking out the window... No van yet...

Groovee Tue 19-Feb-13 14:48:39

Any sign now?

zzzzz Tue 19-Feb-13 16:16:49

He was a mnetter! grin

Greenkit Tue 19-Feb-13 16:29:21

Three weeks, three weeks......THREE FECKING WEEKS!!!!

OMG I would have been out there day one, with um WTF are you doing....

Guntie Tue 19-Feb-13 16:29:33

Still no sign!

zzzzz grin

coraltoes Tue 19-Feb-13 16:58:28

You are a bloody fool and have nobody to blame but yourself.

captainmummy Tue 19-Feb-13 17:12:54

Coral - a little harsh? OP is pregnant and in nostate ot pick an argument with some huge builder-type!

maisiejoe123 Tue 19-Feb-13 17:22:31

It is a bit of a strange post though.

He really really might be thinking that it is public land. If someone came onto my drive which has a outside tap it would be blooming obvious that it was private land but maybe, maybe he didnt realise especially as you didnt say anything to him AT ALL polite/agressive or not!

And then you post on a forum and ask complete strangers what to do. The only answer is to speak to him, nicely or not so nicely. Surely you cannot expect anyone to say, just leave it!

BoneyBackJefferson Tue 19-Feb-13 17:27:33

My new neighbours decided today that they want my parking space,
I parked them in. 3 hours later they complained that their mother can't get her car out.

Their excuse is that she was only going to be 5 minutes.

My response is that it has been 3 hours and I pay for the space, so I expect it to be available for my use at all times.

Fimbo Tue 19-Feb-13 17:34:47

I am confused by the parking "space". It's not a drive actually attached to your house but next to your house? I am assuming therefore he thinks its for all insundry, apart from the using tap issue. Unless you set him straight he's going to keep on doing it. Put your bins at the entrance to it and then he cant get on it. Thats what I did as my neighbour's teenage daughter was gaily reversing back across the road <at speed, almost knocking ds down one day> and then using my drive to reverse on, a few weeks of the bin being out and she finally got the message.

HecateWhoopass Tue 19-Feb-13 17:44:49

good for you, boney. What did they have to say to that?

Guntie Tue 19-Feb-13 18:03:06

captainmummy thank you. I know I am a wuss, but appreciate the support smile

fimbo sorry, I haven't really explained it well. This is probably the best example of what our off street parking looks likes. To me it seems obvious that its not communal?

maisie not really asking what I should do. I know I should confront him and that I am a pansy for not doing so at the time blush. Just guess I wanted to rant and rave a bit and my DH was completely nonplussed.

maisiejoe123 Tue 19-Feb-13 18:06:59

Still think there is a very good chance he thinks its a public area and the tap is just his good luck btw....

Coconutty Tue 19-Feb-13 18:09:10

Fucking Hell, I'm fuming on your behalf.

elah11 Tue 19-Feb-13 18:09:12

Looking at that pic there is NO WAY he could possibly think thats public or communal land!!

Snazzynewyear Tue 19-Feb-13 18:16:47

So did the van show up today or not? <impatient>

ReluctantMother Tue 19-Feb-13 18:17:53

So it is clearly a driveway and not just the land outside your house.

maisiejoe123 Tue 19-Feb-13 18:18:37

Is that your house OP? I suspect you have just used something that looks like your house. And Elah. I agree, its like coming onto someone's drive...

Guntie Tue 19-Feb-13 18:58:57

snazzy Officially NO van man today! My DH is home and parked in the drive so no risk of him today.

maisie No, its not my house but that was a close example of what ours is like, except the drive goes down a bit where their red gate is.

I hope he never comes back...

Snazzynewyear Tue 19-Feb-13 19:26:14

See, I don't know now if it's better or worse that he never comes back. It's like The Tiger Who Came To Tea.

BoneyBackJefferson Tue 19-Feb-13 20:16:09

Hecate
Just that I move the car smile With a polite please, not a thank you though.

Have to see if it happens again.

Fimbo Tue 19-Feb-13 20:48:34

OMG, no way. I thought you meant it was like a strip of waste land to the side that you had bought. NO WAY. Next time he is there you have to tell him how it is, my dh is kind of like yours non confrontational and easy osy. But seriously I am fuming for you. Where do you live, as I am sure there are a few mners (including me) who will come and do it for you.

Guntie Tue 19-Feb-13 21:41:56

fimbo on no, it's a paved car parking spot just like in the picture! I would LOVE an army of mnetters to come shake their collective fists at him, should he ever return.. I hope not..

sudaname Tue 19-Feb-13 21:43:22

oh goody - are we forming a posse grin

I'm in ! but l'm not 'ard at all,so will stand behind someone who is .

Guntie Tue 19-Feb-13 21:57:28

sudaname let's face it, you couldn't be worse than me! blush

sudaname Tue 19-Feb-13 22:08:17

True grin but l'm thinking of name changing to scoobydoo but it would suit you better

grin grin

BlatantLies Tue 19-Feb-13 22:13:51

OP, I think you should get yourself one of these. grin

Guntie Tue 19-Feb-13 22:42:51

sudaname grin
blatant hah, maybe if I just wear the t shirt and peer out the window that will be enough to scare him off in future...

Why on earth would anyone think that was open for anyone to park confused

Buy the tap lock, and then pour really soapy detergent all over his car. Or wipe Vaseline on all the windows.

Any news? Has he returned?

Guntie Wed 20-Feb-13 19:11:42

dreams no van man today.. I guess he really was a mnetter....

giveitago Wed 20-Feb-13 19:32:22

Oh bloody hell - I walk past a shed load of school gate mums and dads parked in our very small block of flats. I just walk past even though dh is driving for a long time round the block trying to get into his drive which is either blocked or full of school cars. Why -because I've had the argument over and over again with different years of parents they either go oh sorry didn't realise that drive with properties around it isn't mine, or tell you to fuck off, or say you (ie me) are rude, or give you the finger and just laugh or whatever. School pays lip service only. In fact - a year ago there were about 3 mums sat outside my ds's bedroom window on our bench having a chat - we went out - they were disgusted at us questioning them. And this is a well to do school. Jeez.

What do you do? Entitlement is a huge problem in the UK.

Kind of get where OP is coming from.

sudaname Wed 20-Feb-13 23:00:31

God giveitago dont mention school run parents to me. l flatly refuse to go and pick my own DGS up from school on a regular basis anymore - only in emegencies after so many altercations with school mums (mainly mums ime) who would stab you soon as give you an inch (no - l'm not actually after your space just trying to bloody get past you loon!) and those who nip into a space that you are obviously in the process of reversing into then give you a mouthful if you say anything.
I actually witnessed a real hissy fit catfight between two mums arguing over someone elses drive hmm
I can only get my DGS by car as school six miles from me so l have to run that gauntlet

BigPigLittlePig Thu 21-Feb-13 09:37:32

giveitago I think I would have been tempted to clean your ds's window with a large bucket of cold water under those circumstances...

simplesusan Thu 21-Feb-13 11:50:22

Well you have more patience than me.
Put your bins across the drive with a notice stating "Private Land-No Parking. Failure to comply will result in your vehicle being towed away.

If he does come back, ring the police and make sure you get him towed away.

You really should have told him straight the first time.
As for using your water, well words fail me.

maddening Thu 21-Feb-13 15:28:48

I bet it was the property developers and words have been had.

ReluctantMother Fri 22-Feb-13 11:19:27

Has he come back?

theodorakisses Fri 22-Feb-13 12:37:38

I can lend you a Pitbull. He wees on cars as well so it would be a double insult.

sudaname Fri 22-Feb-13 12:54:52

I can lend you two big soft labradors who would knock him to the ground and lick him to death. grin

They are called Reggie and Ronnie (to reflect on their 'ardness) and will please themselves come straight to heel when you call them.

I just hope they dont get eaten by theos pitbull , l doubt it as they have been known to roll over into submission position with legs in air etc to the neighbours cat.

That's nothing, sudaname - our brown lab was chased down the meadow by a mouse!

sudaname Fri 22-Feb-13 15:35:38

grin should have'sent that up to 'Youve been framed'.

I can just imagine our three labs standing in OPs drive quivering and scratching at the door while theos pitbull rags the bloke off the driveway.

Lol - me too! Sadly dh didn't think to video the 33kg lab vs. 30g mouse encounter. Apparently it was walking (menacingly, I assume) down the meadow, whilst poor fraidy-cat dog backed away!

sudaname Fri 22-Feb-13 16:23:44

That wouldve been brilliant on YBF ! l can imagine them playing the Scooby Doo theme tune or something.
Plus you'd have got £300 quid or whatever it is, tell DH must be more prepared in future grin
Just remembered one of my dogs being freaked out by a ball of tumble dryer fluff that was floating towards him in our garage, l think he thought it
was a giant mouse.
Anyway where's the OP , whilst we are talking among ourselves - wonder if he s been back.

theodorakisses Fri 22-Feb-13 18:56:21

In fairness the pitbull is young and has no ears (don't ask). My manky little desert dog however is a right bastard if you so much as lok at his dew claws. The nastiest in our house is a stray cat who has adopted us and we are al scared and scarred by him

Don't his hats fall,over his eyes, Theodora? winkgrin

Megglevache Fri 22-Feb-13 19:18:36

crikey ...I'm gobsmacked at your dh .

I'd best not say what I would've done....it would've involved lots of shrieking and ghetto necks moves and if he persisted he'd find his van covered in all manner of shite....

cheeky twat .

theodorakisses Sat 23-Feb-13 05:41:45

Am off to test the hat hypotheses, any suggestions of animal cruelty (have a summery straw hot with flowers on) will be directed to SDT

theodorakisses Sat 23-Feb-13 06:05:52

Ok, so he ate the hat, flowers and all.

Is "off street parking" the same as a driveway? As in attached to your house? So a random bloke in a van is parked next to your house using your outside tap!?

Christ I'd be fuming.

fuckwittery Sat 23-Feb-13 09:07:19

I cannot believe neither of you said anything. It doesn't have to be a confrontation, the first time you saw him, smile and say, oh gosh sorry, have you got confused this is our drive, did you think it was someone else's, y,ou did, oh good so you're moving now? Oh, you thought it was ok to park as it was empty, oh I am so sorry, you are mistaken as this is private property and my husband requires our space. Sorry, still not moving ? Okaaaaay...... (Go inside and phone the non emergency police for trespass OR give him a mouthful if you ever grow some balls.). I can understand on the first occasion, in a rush, feeling unwell, flabbergasted but you both doing nothing for three weeks?! No wonder he feels entitled. He Might be mortified when spoken to now a having thought he was in the empty space of the neighbour who doesn't mind the builder parking there etc..... Why does saying something politely on your own drive automatically equal confrontation?

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