AIBU to ask if your 10 year old can make toast?

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Fantail Mon 18-Feb-13 06:40:32

I would say most 10 year olds can do this, but perhaps they can't.

Rhiannon86 Mon 18-Feb-13 06:42:18

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Shesparkles Mon 18-Feb-13 06:42:48

Mine can and does. He needs to learn to not massacre the butter though!

Fantail Mon 18-Feb-13 06:43:34

In the toaster. And then apply spreads...

Shakinstevie Mon 18-Feb-13 06:44:35

my very sensible 8 year old can she just asks me to watch her getting it out of toaster

HollyBerryBush Mon 18-Feb-13 06:47:40

Depends upon the child, some are full of kitchen common sense, some stick the knife in the toaster whilst its on to get the bread out earlier and blow it up shock

But generally, I would say yes.

zippy539 Mon 18-Feb-13 06:49:47

Yes.

zippy539 Mon 18-Feb-13 06:50:58

Also can make cups of tea which he brings to me in bed in the morning. grin Got to make the most of them before they turn into stroppy teenagers!

ChristmasJubilee Mon 18-Feb-13 06:54:42

My (not very sensible) 6.8 year old can. I supervise but he manages fine. Ds2 (15) has been making it for a long time and would have been able to do it at 10. Ds1 (17) would have been older (s/n).

havingamadmoment Mon 18-Feb-13 06:56:58

My 8 year old can my 6 year old probably can but is not allowed alone just yet.

bigpantspam Mon 18-Feb-13 06:59:54

My 8 year old does, but on the other hand is not ready to use the kettle

fluffyraggies Mon 18-Feb-13 07:08:12

Mine could at 10. Toaster or grill (standing on a stool to see)

and they could do baked beans to go on top. I think bacon sandwiches were on the 10 year old's menu here too smile

fluffyraggies Mon 18-Feb-13 07:08:54

I wouldn't allow kettles till 12/13 actually.

<twitchy>

MoppingMummy Mon 18-Feb-13 07:09:11

My 9yr old can. I have told her to never, ever poke something in to the toaster if the bread gets stuck as I have an old memory if doing that myself once!

Oblomov Mon 18-Feb-13 07:15:17

Am surprised by how many people won't let their children. No kettle till 12/13?
The cubs , aged 8-10 require a home cooked meal ( beans on toast will do, apparently) , for their home-maker ( or some such title) badge. They have to prep it on their own.
Thus that suggests we are being a bit over-protective, don't you think?

exoticfruits Mon 18-Feb-13 07:17:38

Thank goodness for schools, Scouts etc - by 12 years they should be capable of cooking the dinner- using the oven etc.
I have made soup with a group of year 6 children and most of them had never chopped vegetables with a sharp knife, never mind stirred boiling liquid !

Of course a 10 year old should make toast and know that you must not poke I implements in a toaster. 10 is a bit late to start.

exoticfruits Mon 18-Feb-13 07:18:33

Cross posted Oblomov - glad you mentioned cubs.

exoticfruits Mon 18-Feb-13 07:26:21

When my DS was a patrol leader in the Scouts they used to have a cooking competition and each patrol did a whole meal- all taking part - including the 10 year olds. I know his menu included deep fried doughnuts ( the had drawn Turkey as their country for recipes)
I expect that at the same time some of the over protective parents still thought they were being adventurous making cup cakes with their 10 year old!
I have been in a class of 9/10 year old where a chef came in for a morning for half a term and had them doing all sorts of things. They are quite capable if allowed to be.
12/13 year olds are at secondary school- they cook- they use ovens, they use kettles It shouldn't be the teacher's job to do it for the first time.
When I was 8 yrs I used to make my parents a cup of tea sometimes when they were still in bed.

Yep to toast, grill and kettle.

10 year old ds loves to cook for us on a Saturday so can use the cooker sensibly too.
I'm constantly shocked at children who cant cook or clean . How will they cope when they leave home?

Rhiannon86 Mon 18-Feb-13 07:27:37

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exoticfruits Mon 18-Feb-13 07:28:04

If my 15 yr old can supervise 5 others cooking a complicated foreign meal I would expect that a parent could cope with one 10 year old and a toaster!!!

sausagesandwich34 Mon 18-Feb-13 07:28:20

10???

Of course they should be able to at 10

My just turned 11year old bakes by herself and can knock up a fair few meals made a lovely tuna pasta bake yesterday totally unsupervised

We took the brownies on pack holiday this year and they were chopping up veg, skinning chicken, peeling potatoes making brown owl cups of tea they love it

And they need to know these things otherwise when they go to uni they put pizzas still in the plastic wrap in the microwave for 20 minutes and end up setting the fire alarms off like some idiot did in my uni halls!

FloellaDaVille Mon 18-Feb-13 07:29:05

My 8 year old sorts out toast for her and her sister when we haven't got up on a Sunday. She would call if anything went wrong and knows not to poke knives in it.

exoticfruits Mon 18-Feb-13 07:29:53

I despair sometimes at what we are doing to our children- how is such cotton- wool protectiveness supposed to to be good for them?

FamiliesShareGerms Mon 18-Feb-13 07:32:43

My 7 year old can make his own toast, and is getting better at putting an appropriate amount of butter on it. He's not so great at pouring drinks without spilling, so we've avoided the kettle except under very close supervision thus far

Looking forward to the days when he can use the kettle alone and bring us breakfast in bed!

seeker Mon 18-Feb-13 07:36:28

Grrr- this is one of my hobby horses! Yes of course they should be able to!!!!!!!!

shootfromthehip Mon 18-Feb-13 07:38:40

My eight nearly nine year old has been making toast for about a year. My six year old also makes toast (and a mess!) but with someone taking it out of the toaster for him. I'm still nervous about the kettle though... ok for the big one (supervised) but not a chance for the wee one!

SamuelWestsMistress Mon 18-Feb-13 07:39:09

My DS is freakishly responsible (definitely gets that from his Dad and not me!) and has been making his own breakfast (usually toast) since he was 5. DD who is 5 now, does sometimes too. My 3 year old is determined to do it with screams of "I DO IT, I DO IT!"

I've only got a 5yo so not quite at the cooking a full meal stage yet. I 'taught' my niece to make toast at 8 which her parents were slightly twitchy about. She's 10 now and I have tried to teach her to make tea. She knows how to make it of course but doesn't have the strength to lift the kettle without it shaking all over the place so it's a no go. I'm going to buy her a travel kettle!

Belini Mon 18-Feb-13 07:41:18

My 5, 7, & 14 year olds all do their own breakfasts. This would include toast, cereal or bacon rolls at the weekend. I am currently working on ds14s cooking abilities. He has no interest in 'cooking' anything other than noodles or beans on toast.

coldethyl Mon 18-Feb-13 07:41:45

Yes, my last 10 yr old (now 11) could make toast and so can my almost-10 and my 8 yr old. In fact, the 2 year old would if he could reach (he drags a chair up but still can't reach far enough to get the bread into the toaster). In fact, DS1 does a creditable roast chicken pieces with vegetables and DS2 can do sausages with chips and veg (with a bit of supervision). DD and DS2 both bake (biscuits, brownies, mince pies at Christmas - I feel quite redundant) and they can make themselves hot chocolate. None of them do kettled beverages yet, partly because they don't drink them, mostly because none are tall enough to lift the kettle once it's boiled. It will come.
Oh, and DS2 makes excellent pancakes. I am training them not to starve when they leave home.

Budgiegirlbob Mon 18-Feb-13 07:42:07

My 11 year old DS can make a fully cooked meal, such as savoury stuffed pancakes with minimal supervision, and has been making tea and toast for some time.

My 10 year old DS told me at the weekend that he can't spread jam on his toast, I pointed out that as 12 year olds were winning junior master chef, I was sure he could manage a bit of jam! He does make cups of tea and peel potatoes though.

I'm an assistant cub leader, and last week the cubs did their chef badge, which involved making vegetable soup and pancakes ( supervised but not helped), and also setting and clearing the table, serving each other, and washing up. They also have to make cakes or cookies on their own.

It's amazing what children can do if they are given a chance.

Blimey, kids are sheltered these days. At 10 my sister and I could bake cakes, make pastry and cook a full evening meal including a roast for a family of four. We were taught to cook as soon as we were old enough to stand up.

Toast? I should bloody well hope so.

fieldfare Mon 18-Feb-13 07:45:16

Dd is 10 and has been making her own breakfast for about the last 2 years - toast/crumpets in the toaster, or porridge in the microwave. We've got a one cup hot water dispenser so she uses that to make a cup of tea - hot enough for tea but not boiling to scald.
She can make fantastic cakes, cheese sauce from scratch to go on veggies and basic pasta dishes as well as 'it' on toast.

She's also pretty efficient with the Hoover, a duster and the washing machine. HOW can people let their children get to this age with so little idea of how to fend for themselves?

SkinnybitchWannabe Mon 18-Feb-13 07:46:07

My 7 year old ds uses the toaster and microwave (with supervision)
10 year old ds does most types of cooking&making himself a cuppa.
13 year old ds makes Supernoodles and microwave ready meals!!

dappleton Mon 18-Feb-13 07:46:44

I think by 10 any sensible child should be able to make a meal i.e. beans on toast, scrambled eggs, instant noodles...that sort of thing.

coldethyl Mon 18-Feb-13 07:48:58

I think it partly depends on how many children there are in the family and their ages. I know I have been guilty in the past of continuing to do things for the older ones, because the baby still needs help and it is more efficient to make toast for 4 than toast for 1 and then let them get on with it. If my four fall down when they leave home, it will be because they are used to being a team (one to chop, one to cook, one to make gravy; or one emptying the laundry basket and bringing it down, one putting the machine on, one emptying and hanging up). I am trying to rotate the jobs, but sometimes it's easier to let them get on with it as it stands.

merlottits Mon 18-Feb-13 07:49:51

My goodness, of course. I would say an 8 year old should find this no bother.

The differences in parenting are immense. I am close to two other mothers who have sons identical ages to mine (now 15). I'm big on independence and teaching and then expecting life skills from children.

My DS at 10 got himself up independently each morning for school, washed, dressed, made his own breakfast, packed his own school bag and left in time for the school bus. I was not involved.

One of the other mothers still got her DS up, laid out his clothes, put cereal in a bowl and then poured milk on when he came downstairs, packed/checked his school bag and took him to school. The other mother was somewhere in between.

Different types of parenting. I'm sure the boys themselves were pretty similar in 'natural ability'.

I would allow kettles from 10. After all how would they make themselves a Pot Noodle for tea? grin

Geeklover Mon 18-Feb-13 07:50:42

My 9 and nearly 7 year old can both make and spread toast. They often fight over who gets to make sandwiches and things for lunch for each other at the weekends.
9 year old makes a lovely cup of tea as well. smile
My 9 year old taught 12 year old dss how to make toast as he's not allowed at home neither is he allowed to make tea.
My dc also help themselves to diluting juice if they are thirsty and are happy to muck in with dishes and vacuuming as well.
Exdh is still very incapable of looking after a house I'm so not letting my dc go the same way.

DesiderataHollow Mon 18-Feb-13 07:50:54

Is this some kind of trick question?
Why wouldn't a 10 yo be able to make toast?

Obviously if they're doing it before you're up and about there's a liklihood it will end up with nutella on rather than whole-food peanut butter. But it's a small price to pay for a half-hour lie-in. Not to mention the cup of coffee that should make an appearence for you soon after. smile

Tee2072 Mon 18-Feb-13 07:51:53

My 3.9 year old can make toast with a bit of supervision!

By 10 I'll be expecting that and bringing mummy a cuppa!!

teacherandguideleader Mon 18-Feb-13 07:53:01

At the end of Guide camp last summer, one of the 10 year olds commented that she had had such a good time as she had never realised how much she could do for herself - collecting wood for a fire (obviously as part of a group), building a fire then preparing and cooking a meal on it.

What strikes me now is how many of them have no clue about preparing food (usually just the ones on their first camp as others remember what they have done before). One year we wrote the recipes for one meal and had missed out the bit about chopping the courgette. Cue one group placing a whole courgette into their saucepan.

We made pancakes last week - all made their own (with supervision).

Janey46 Mon 18-Feb-13 07:53:16

My 8 and 9yr olds can both make tea and bake a cake from scratch (I get it out of the oven as it is an eye level one). They can both make toast.I haven't really taught them to cook yet though <note to self: start this week>

Ilovexmastime Mon 18-Feb-13 07:54:45

My 6 and 8 year old DSs can.

Pagwatch Mon 18-Feb-13 07:54:51

DD has been making me quite decent cups of coffee for a ouble of years now.

Yes, of course my 10 year old can make toast.

INeedALieIn Mon 18-Feb-13 07:58:26

Anybody recommend an age when children could be left unsupervised, cooking on a gas hob?

seeker Mon 18-Feb-13 08:00:54

Depends on the child and when they started. It's not age, it's confidence and practice. Oh, and height. They need to be able to safely do things without having to stand on something to reach.

McPie Mon 18-Feb-13 08:01:03

D1s is 11 and has been making toast for years and dts 6 can too, they just wait until its cooler before removing. Ds1 has just started on tea but that was by his own choice as he wasnt happy pouring the water into a cup, into a pan he was ok with but a cup scared him. He can make many things but needs to learn to tidy up after him! When dh and I moved in together he couldnt make much more than toast at 25 so I plan on making sure my kids can feed themself and others when needed.

HSMMaCM Mon 18-Feb-13 08:02:09

DD could and could make several full meals by the time she left primary. Her best attribute is cups of tea in bed grin. Brownies and Guides got them to do nearly everything when they were away on camp (waving sharp knives at veg, etc).

Agree with having the sense not to stick a knife in the toaster though ...

5madthings Mon 18-Feb-13 08:03:09

God yes of course a 10 yr old should be able to make toast.
My 4 yr old can spread his own toast!

Children are far more capable than they are given credit for.

Yes, of course.
Why is peanut butter deemed to be better than nutella, that is the real question!

BoringSchoolChoiceNickname Mon 18-Feb-13 08:07:01

Kettles are tricky because a child's strength and height relative to our kitchen work top makes the ergonomics a nightmare, and the risks are very real and very extreme. Toaster, sure, knives, sure. But for the same ergonomics reasons, my DS (8) has only just started to get his own glass of water from the tap. Sure he could get it before, but dragging a chair across the room was a load of effort for a glass of water (and yes, the answer is clearly a step stool).

ZumbaZara Mon 18-Feb-13 08:10:25

I always keep in mind that by 16 they might leave home and need to be everything for themselves. That is that they are confident and competent because basic tasks are second nature.

I have had mine 'helping' all their lives. So I suppose that if your 10 year old hadn't made toast or anything else then you are back at the point of explaining that hot things burn and that jamming metal objects such as knives into electrical objects like toasters in a bad plan. You would need to explain that lids of spreads need to be opened and replaces at the end and that clearing up is part of the whole task.

Then you would need to stand back get on with other stuff and casually give a bit of praise and a tiny bit advice.

Yes of course they CAN but depends what they have done before.

exoticfruits Mon 18-Feb-13 08:14:25

It makes me want to go around the country liberating 10 years old and getting them cooking meals for their family!

DewDr0p Mon 18-Feb-13 08:15:13

I hadn't actually considered that my 8 yr old might be able to make toast. We tend to all eat breakfast together so I'm there anyway. Good reminder to start, I do want them all to be able to cook!

funkybuddah Mon 18-Feb-13 08:15:32

Yes they can, and pasta, tosties, fish fingers.

Dc is 11 now and regularly cooks us s proper dinner, yesterday included a apple crumble from scratch.

He loves cooking so we leave him to get on with it.

TroublesomeEx Mon 18-Feb-13 08:17:10

My daughter is 6. She can use the toaster to make toast and take the butter dish off the side. The toaster is at a height that she can reach and she knows the safety rules. She switches it on and off at the wall. I don't supervise her.

She's been responsible for making her own breakfast since she was 3 or 4 (only cereal though - didn't let her loose on the toaster then!)

My son couldn't have done it at the same age though.

I would think most 10 year olds should be able to make toast without any problems.

Osmiornica Mon 18-Feb-13 08:20:34

My 6 year old can safely make toast so yes, I would have thought a 10 year old should be able to.

Budgiegirlbob Mon 18-Feb-13 08:22:34

Definitely important to get them doing simple cooking. I remember when I shared a flat at uni, there was a girl who had never cooked in her life. We took turns in making a meal, and when it her turn she attempted spaghetti with a jar of sauce. She asked us where the special long pan for the spaghetti was kept, as it didn't fit in a normal pan!

fluffyraggies Mon 18-Feb-13 08:22:43

About the kettle thing ... (it was me that said 12/13 <twitchy>)

I know that many people are happy with their kids using a kettle younger than that. At the time i had friends saying 'oh mine do', etc...

I had a friend at primary school who had awful scaring over her body due to a bad accident with boiling water. I think it made me particularly worried about kettles and kids. My XH was always a bit hmm about me saying no to them making tea till that age.

Just one of those things. We've all got our little quirks.

YouTheCat Mon 18-Feb-13 08:39:07

I remember those wonderful days, when dd was 8 and delighted in making me a cup of coffee and toast. Now she's 18 and I practically have to bribe her to get so much as a biscuit. hmm

cory Mon 18-Feb-13 08:51:11

but fluffie, is there anything about age 12/13 that means they suddenly can't have scalding accidents? do older people never have them?

by age 11, they will be working with bunsen burners at school; I think most chemistry teachers would confirm that the main risk is nervous children moving jerkily or acting up because they are scared and unused to the situation.

MissMogwi Mon 18-Feb-13 08:51:40

My DDs are 11 and 8 and can both make toast. Probably have done from 7/8 years old really.

They can both make cakes and cookies, although I watch DD2 with the oven. DD1 is capable of making a simple meal such as pizza or beans on toast.

They can both make tea, a crucial skill in the Mogwi house. Although again I supervise DD2 with the kettle.

DS can do toast, sandwiches, and makes superb drop scones. He is 10. It now occurs to me that I have probably babied DD (6) a bit, as she doesn't do much except assembling sandwiches (she doesn't eat toast, though, so not much incentive for her smile)

DS (just 9) has been making toast for about a year. DD (just 7) hates toast and won't entertain the idea. They are both short for age, esp DS, so kettle use is some way off, DD can't reach the taps without a chair yet. Also DS has coordination issues (diagnosed). They both get involved with other aspects of cooking, baking and shopping though.

FreckledLeopard Mon 18-Feb-13 08:56:19

DD can make toast, spag bol, omelettes, roast, cakes, pancakes....she's 11 now and has been cooking for years. I think unsupervised gas hob cooking was at 8 or 9.

Kytti Mon 18-Feb-13 08:57:05

My 7 year old makes toast, pours drinks, but is not yet allowed to use the kettle, but that's mainly because there are much younger ones round her feet while she does it. My three year old was breaking up mushrooms today and stirred them into hot sauce. Can't wait 'till she can make a cuppa!

BelindaCarlisle Mon 18-Feb-13 08:57:28

WHY IS THIS AIBU

chickabilla Mon 18-Feb-13 09:00:52

My 6 year old can with the toaster. I stay in the room but he is fine. Wouldn't let him loose with the kettle though!

MrsMushroom Mon 18-Feb-13 09:01:01

My 8 year old can make a loaf of bread never mind toast!

mrsjay Mon 18-Feb-13 09:01:10

mine could at 10 well probably at 9 its a toaster not an open fire grin I know somebody who wont let her 13 yr old make hot drinks and thinks parents who do are lazy and neglectful she is a bit of a loon though

likesnowflakesinanocean Mon 18-Feb-13 09:03:59

yes she can make toast and is always asking to make a bru but usually don't entertain that due to the kettle being in an awkward place cause of plug set up, need more plugs!

fluffyraggies Mon 18-Feb-13 09:04:55

cory genuine lol.

No, there's nothing magic about 12/13 that makes them suddenly immune to scalding accidents. Thinking about it now that's probably the age it became ridiculous for me to still be stopping them blush

It may have been a work top versus their height thing too. In my defense ;)

EasilyBored Mon 18-Feb-13 09:06:48

I still use a knife to dislodge crumpets and muffins from the toaster. Ahem.

But yes, I plan on introducing DS to the kitchen as soon as hes big enough to stand on a stool. I thought the point of having children was so they could make the tea and pour the wine? *

Usual disclaimer, obviously thats not the real reason I had a child.

It was so he could do the hoovering.

WandaDoff Mon 18-Feb-13 09:11:06

I had children so they could go to the shop for me. wink

They could also make toast & tea for me by the age of 10.

the 3 yr old can't yet but I'll work on it.

my six year old can and the 9 year old has been doing it for years.

thegreylady Mon 18-Feb-13 09:14:35

6 yr old dgs can make toast in toaster and apply spreads. He knows not to put a knife in the machine!

thegreylady Mon 18-Feb-13 09:15:04

6 yr old dgs can make toast in toaster and apply spreads. He knows not to put a knife in the machine!

MoppingMummy Mon 18-Feb-13 09:16:28

Actually my 9 yr old can use a toaster, kettle and make cupcakes from scratch on her own, with just a little supervision with the oven stage.

Flobbadobs Mon 18-Feb-13 09:17:05

DS can but being a lefthander he has a tendancy to massacre the butter when spreading. He makes brews and can make a mean spagetti bolognese from scratch. DD is 7 and can also do basic stuff.
I don't see why the majority of children providing they are well supervised and able can't learn.

WhatKindofFool Mon 18-Feb-13 09:18:33

Toast? No problem. Washing up? That is another story.

quoteunquote Mon 18-Feb-13 09:22:31

My children cook a lot, I may get asked to take something out of a hot oven, but they get on with it on their own, if they want a roast, they cook it, if they want cakes they make it(far better than I can), it considered a privilege to cook in this house, so they teat it with the respect it deserves, or risk losing the right to do so.

I really hope it a joke someone asking about toast.

dawntigga Mon 18-Feb-13 09:23:58

My 3 year old can make toast, badly, supervised, I'm pretty sure that at 10 he'll be able to make toast. Why?

RaisingASelfSufficientChildTiggaxx

I've got an 11 year old DS and he's just getting there.
DD(13) is getting confident in getting simple things together. And even did a "Come dine with me" for her friends (with a little support)

This thread has got me thinking that maybe I should get a pair of those wooden toasting tongs for getting the toast out - and save them from poking at it with knives. Though I guess it's not as dangerous after it's popped up ?? confused

SoldeInvierno Mon 18-Feb-13 09:25:39

Yes, he has been able to use the toaster since he was 6. Clearing up the dirty knives and plates afterwards is a different matter, though :-)

Groovee Mon 18-Feb-13 09:26:30

My 10 year old has been making his own sandwiches and toast since he was 4. His 13 year old sister wouldn't have a clue despite having the same opportunities. Yet can cook fantastically at school.

Also thinking I might get a toasted sandwich maker for the teenage years ?
Anyone found one of those useful ?

Fantail Mon 18-Feb-13 09:30:16

My cousin, his DP and their 10 year old son were staying with us in the weekend. I was getting DD her porridge and he asked for toast, so I suggested he pop it in the toaster himself, presuming that aged 10 he would know how.

His Dad then came in the room and told him to sit down as he would do it because he didn't know how. This after a big long conversation the night before about how self-sufficient the 10 year old was...

I didn't think that it was an unreasonable suggestion on my part. I have memories of baking unsupervised at that age, so I presume I could make my own toast!

Thought I would ask, just in case...

FoxyRoxy Mon 18-Feb-13 09:31:16

My 11yo was making toast and tea at 8. He gets up in the morning, gets ready for school, makes his own breakfast and leaves to get the bus without even seeing me or DH most of the time! He can also do simple meals and can use the oven, grill, microwave etc properly.

Whoever said 12/13 to use the kettle shock

My dd is 10, she does toast on weekends for her and ds and scrambled egg for me and dh if we want (in microwave), she can make coffee as well though i dont request this often - she has also just mastered making super noodles in the microwave and always does our sunday tea - sandwiches. I am training her so when she is in secondary she can let herself in and crak on with tea grin whilst i pick youngest from primary.

iseenodust Mon 18-Feb-13 09:42:25

DS 8 can do his own toast but the rate at which the peanut butter jar empties is directly linked to how often.

pingu2209 Mon 18-Feb-13 09:43:18

My 5 year old can in the toaster. But my 9, 7 and 5 year old struggle to spread the marg on top.

VenusRising Mon 18-Feb-13 09:52:20

My 8 yo can use the microwave and toaster, and has chopped veg with a sharp knife since she was 6. Very handy with it too, though DH had to supervise her chopping potatoes then as I just couldn't watch her! Now we all do the meal preparations together. DD was using a scissors from 3- a real one, with the pointy end. No harm came to her!

8 yo DD makes me coffee too on Sunday mornings while I grab an extra wink. <spoiled> We then make yeast bread rolls together.

gordyslovesheep Mon 18-Feb-13 09:53:19

my 10 year old can make tea, toast, a simple spaghetti bolognese, toast and does breakfast for the other 2 some days

my 8 year old makes cakes with supervision - even my 4 year old helps make sandwiches - so yes a 10 year old can make toast!

Adversecamber Mon 18-Feb-13 09:55:04

Yes and could also make veg soup and spaghetti Bol at 10 but with supervision.
His school gave the dc a sandwich making lesson when they were six.

VenusRising Mon 18-Feb-13 09:55:23

YY fantail - I too hear about how amazingly skilled cousins are, only to be faced with the not so shiny reality on sleepovers..... Though maybe the giddiness from excitement is a factor in reduced functionality smile

LookatMeeeeeee Mon 18-Feb-13 09:58:58

I would happily let DD(5) use a toaster, I think. Unfortunately we don't have one, just a grill in the oven, and our grill pan doesn't have a handle so has to be taken out with an oven glove. I don't let her do that.

I let her prepare stuff at the table - she does things like cutting up easy things like ham or mushrooms, stirring things, pouring, weighing things out-, but I don't really like her at the stove just because she isn't tall enough (and I worry she might fall off a chair, because she has some balance and co-ordination issues). Once she is taller and stronger, or if we can find something more suitable for her to stand on then I think it is a really important thing to be able to learn to cook and prepare simple things from an early age.

anchovies Mon 18-Feb-13 09:59:23

Mine (6 and 8) both can and I have taught my 8 year old how to use the nespresso and milk frother, important skills to be able to bring me coffee and toast in bed

12ylnon Mon 18-Feb-13 10:39:06

I have 2 words for you- toast tongs.
6 yo ds has no problem making toast- gets a bit frustrated that he can't spread as neatly as us, but that'll come.
He has also made his own mushroom omlete (chopping, whisking, cooking- the whole lot).
Kettle- not quite yet. He has enough trouble with pouring regular drinks!
We make sure that plates, cups, bowls, cutlery etc is on his level, so he has no problem getting things himself.

MrsDeVere Mon 18-Feb-13 10:46:15

My eldest two could make tea and toast by about 8.
They would make up their own pack lunches as well.

Its all different now. DC3 has to be supervised at all times. Its changed the dynamic quite a lot. Its going to be a bit harder to get DCs 4 & 5 on the right schedule when their older brother is not on it.

<i am sorry if that sounds confusing, I am poorly>

squoosh Mon 18-Feb-13 10:57:52

No using the kettle before the age of 13?

WOAH? shock shock shock

cory Mon 18-Feb-13 11:01:02

Who'd be a chemistry teacher, eh?

Bramshott Mon 18-Feb-13 11:02:37

My 10 yr old can make toast but can't cut the bread. Not sure how to get round that one as we use a breadmaker and the loaves are fairly difficult to cut straight. I should probably start addressing that problem with her now though . . .

HeadFairy Mon 18-Feb-13 11:03:35

My 5 year old can make toast of course he slathers half a tub of butter on it as well

Startail Mon 18-Feb-13 11:04:14

I'm absolutely certain my 11 yo could make tea, toast, etc. except she doesn't like tea and employs DD1 (15) to provide hot chocolate.

DD1 is a dab hand at sandwiches, soup, hot chocolate, tea and more complex cooking if required. She likes doing it and DD2 is quite happy to let her.

Bramshott Mon 18-Feb-13 11:05:54

I have to say that DD1 (the 10 yr old) also doesn't use the kettle yet blush. However, as she doesn't drink hot drinks (apart from hot chocolate, which she does in the microwave) I didn't think it was really that important for her to be able to yet. Plus she's small, and holding and filling the kettle at worktop level is hard.

freddiefrog Mon 18-Feb-13 11:08:10

Yes, although she trashes the kitchen in the process

She can also make vile tea and coffee, make sandwiches, microwave baked beans, etc

magentastardust Mon 18-Feb-13 11:14:04

I am a bit (blush) to say I have never thought to let DS age 9 to make the toast himself!
Guess what we will be doing after school today!?

He has a 6 year old and a 1 year old sister so I guess as another poster said I am always around because of the baby so just make everyones as it is quicker.

He does lay the table for breakfast , and helps me with the washing and his baby sister etc -I just never thought to let him loose on the toaster!

ImpatientOne Mon 18-Feb-13 11:37:14

I know at high school we were making hot milky drinks (on the hob), fresh soup and cheese on toast in first year way back in 1992 grin All simple tasks to use the various functions of an oven etc.

At 10+ our Guides cook for themselves on an open fire, at Brownies we tend to wait until they are 8 for them to actually help with proper meal prep on residentials but we did have a chef in a while ago to teach them all (age 7+) how to chop fruit and veg safely.

For all those worried about knives in toasters may I recommend these A must in our house to ensure DH doesn't electrocute himself hmm or for training your offspring to make breakfast wink

absolutmum Mon 18-Feb-13 11:43:39

My 10 year old can bake a victoria sandwich, make an omlette or egg and bacon, and makes me cups of tea., as well as toast!
We were only discussing that it's probably time to broaden his cooking horizons, so perhaps he should think about making some pasta sauces or a simple curry.
I want my son to be a capable young adult when he leaves home!

sydlexic Mon 18-Feb-13 12:30:32

DS could make toast but doesn't eat it. He makes flapjacks at the weekend to eat on the bus on school days. He can make an excellent chocolate cake.

valiumredhead Mon 18-Feb-13 12:58:34

DS is 11, he can make tea, coffee hot chocolate with milk in the microwave, toast, toasted sandwiches, scrambled eggs, omelette, lemon drizzle cake completely by himself and cup cakes, other baking with minimal supervision. Also knows how to roast a chicken as of yesterday grin

Bobyan Mon 18-Feb-13 15:32:50

Thinks about totally useless DH in the kitchen and furiously scribbles notes re toast tongs and omelettes for 5 year old DS...

cozietoesie Mon 18-Feb-13 15:38:32

I mixed my first load of cement at 8.

smile

Lastofthepodpeople Mon 18-Feb-13 15:40:19

Goodness, my 3 yo is desperate to make his own toast and always insists on 'helping' me with it. I can't imagine him not being able to do so by ten. I was cooking for the whole family at that age, and making a little extra cash by making and selling cakes to the neighbours. Are there really 10 yo's out there who can't make toast? I'm flabbergasted. I wonder if they tie their own shoe laces.

dogsbreath Mon 18-Feb-13 15:44:24

DS can make toast but can't cut bread.

Yes both my 5.6yr and 9 make toast (have the same toast tongs as above). They also 'help' to make tea. swishing teabag around in the hot water.

But I will say that I have let my 5.6yr make her own drinks at a far younger age then my 9yr old as she is far less accident prone then the older one.

greengoose Mon 18-Feb-13 16:41:17

My 10 year old and 5 yr old boys make dinner every Sunday, from a recipe book. The last two weeks were chicken goujons (sp?) from scratch with home made wedges and dips followed by pancakes, and the week before home made burgers. If they cook they get to choose what...

I don't let my five yr old near the cooker without me, but fine with me beside him. He got a baking set for Christmas. He can make bread without much help now, as can his brother.

My ten year old often does the packed lunches and washes dishes at least two or three times a week. He hoovers and puts away his own laundry and tidies lounge and his room. He is also responsible for feeding and walking dog, feeding cat, and looking after his own flock of ducks. He is making a cottage gate stall to sell his eggs and jams etc. he really enjoys helping out, and helping his brother. Its been a tough year, and hes worth his weight in gold around the place. I am v v proud mum....

Fantail Mon 18-Feb-13 17:33:54

Master Greengoose is going to be a good catch!

I actually think that most children love cooking as it gives a reward and is hands on practical.

DD (2) likes baking, especially when eggs are broken. I get "magic" and a round of applause.

TheCatInTheHairnet Mon 18-Feb-13 17:47:07

My 8 yo Ds can and he's, frankly, a bit of a charlie. He also makes mean ribs on the BBQ. Supervised obviously.

Bobyan Mon 18-Feb-13 18:18:36

Can I ask how you start the younger ones off using knives?

Bobyan Mon 18-Feb-13 18:18:57

I mean cooking rather than mugging BTW!

mrsjay Mon 18-Feb-13 18:20:33

knives for spreading do you mean ? just a butter knife they cant do much damage really when dd was really young she liked to do her sandwhiches so I still had a knife from a toddler set for cooking just watch them I have a small sharp knife dd used always supervised though

TrinityRhino Mon 18-Feb-13 18:21:23

dont have a 10 year old but my 7 year old can

MariusEarlobe Mon 18-Feb-13 18:22:30

in the toaster yes and spread
I don't let her near tea though as her spacial awareness and hand eye co ordination is rubbish (sen)

badguider Mon 18-Feb-13 18:28:12

for starting to chop with sharp knives - do bananas, grapes, or other soft things first and talk about keeping fingers away... move up to harder things like onions slowly.
And obviously dont' have the knife razor-sharp (but not completely blunt either).

Much easier to learn with properly sharp knives IMO. Ours started with one of us standing behind them with hands over theirs - gradually backing off as they get the hang of it, but always hovering to make sure fingers are kept properly out of the way etc.

10yo has made steak tartare, working side by side with DH, each making a portion.

jamdonut Mon 18-Feb-13 18:41:02

At school we have these little knives to chop with that have a rounded end,but a very sharp cutting edge. Fruit salad is always a good thing to start learning to chop for. It is better that knives are sharp to chop with and the children shown how to hold things safely. A cut finger with a sharp knife is much better(!) than with a blunt knife.
I know its scary, but the younger a child is shown how to do this the right way, the better. I can remember using sharp knives when I was 5 or 6. I'm sure I had a few cuts along the way (had one fairly recently...ouch!blush

Another one here training up encouraging the 3 year old to be independent in the kitchen....ish

She can put a slice of bread in the toaster and push the button down, but after the 9 minute toast incident, she isn't allowed to touch any other button on the toaster. Its also a grown-ups job to take the toast out of the toaster and give her an ok amount of butter. She can then mutilate it spread the butter on and cut it herself.

She also gets involved in the kitchen doing stuff like washing the salad and usually soaking herself, and creaming the mixture to make cakes.

Domjolly Mon 18-Feb-13 18:50:24

Not being funny a 6 year old sould be able to make toast if they cant then [cofused] you get put unwrap the cotton wool

SomeBear Mon 18-Feb-13 18:53:58

All 3 of mine can make toast, use the grill to make cheese on toast and use the sandwich toaster to make a cheese toastie. DD1 (11) and DS (9) can all follow a recipe to make a basic meal - DS makes fantastic pastry! DD2 is not so interested but would be allowed to if she wanted to. Our view has always been that they are easier to teach before they become teenagers so they all know how to use sharp knives, kettle and oven.

morethanpotatoprints Mon 18-Feb-13 18:57:19

I think it depends on the dc, they all develope at different rates. Mine started using the toaster about age 7, but obviously I watched them and gave a lesson on H&S.
Ds1 was making hot drinks at 9. I couldn't trust ds2 until he was 11. DD is 9 and I wouldn't truat her quite yet.

They are all different and I wouldn't really expect them to do it until they show an interest. As long as they are not generally lazy, I don't see a problem.

DD 10 makes toast and hot drinks for us, she also does basic meals. She can also bake cakes and makes lovely jam tarts

EricNorthmanIsMyMaker Mon 18-Feb-13 19:02:51

My just turned 3 year old makes his own toast. I have to get it out of the toaster but he gets everything out & butters it himself

exoticfruits Mon 18-Feb-13 19:08:19

No, there's nothing magic about 12/13 that makes them suddenly immune to scalding accidents. Thinking about it now that's probably the age it became ridiculous for me to still be stopping them

I think it is long before that. A secondary school teacher would assume that all pupils were used to using a kettle.
For what it is worth-I must have started about 8yrs and I was 34yrs before I scalded myself! (Luckily not badly) I don't think that you would surmise that I shouldn't use a kettle-simply that I shouldn't have been distracted.

greengoose Mon 18-Feb-13 19:19:28

You get really good sharp knifes with round ends for kids to use. (you can also get proper Swiss army knifes with round end on the properly sharp blade which are great for bushcraft/ camping etc).

skaen Mon 18-Feb-13 19:34:39

My 5yo DD makes her own toast while I keep an eye on her, she sometimes makes her packed lunch too.

MrsMushroom Mon 18-Feb-13 19:37:11

My 2 month old can cook chilli.

Well, DSS age 11 can but won't.

He absolutely cannot spread butter though. Well, he can if he has to but I have a feeling he does the 'do it badly enough times and I won't be asked to do it again'. Clearly hasn't thought it through!

grin at mini mushroom

newcastle34 Mon 18-Feb-13 20:28:41

My8 year old does.

girliefriend Mon 18-Feb-13 20:34:23

My dd has been able to make toast for about a year, she is now just turned 7yo. She is fine with the spreading!! My dn who is 9yo recently said he can't spread because he is left handed hmm grin going to go through life only having dry toast then!!

QueenMaeve Mon 18-Feb-13 20:44:28

Ds is 10. He can make toast, tea and scrambled egg in the microwave. He's also just mastered chicken, noodles in soy sauce. He reckons its just the same as the Chinese takeaway

Rowgtfc72 Mon 18-Feb-13 20:51:48

DD learnt to make toast for my birthday, shes nearly six. Ok the butter wasnt quite where I like it but it was a good effort. She knows not to poke things in the toaster. She can fetch her own juice and do her own cereal. Friends are amazed, I thought most kids could do this at her age. We're just waiting for her to grow a bit to master the kettle! Its a whistling one and she knows how to turn it off and we're just teaching her turning it on.

Amphitrite Mon 18-Feb-13 20:56:04

My 10 year old can make toast. She can also bake a victoria sponge cake without consulting a recipe book, follow most recipes, use a mixer without supervision, make white sauce from scratch, cook pasta (though I will drain the boiling water for her), make scrambled eggs, pancakes, yorkshire puddings etc. Nearly all of her friends can do the same.

Why did you ask OP? Have you come across a 10 year old that can't make toast? Or isn't allowed to?

ByTheSea Mon 18-Feb-13 20:56:24

Yes. She can slice the bread too.

squoosh Mon 18-Feb-13 20:56:58

As long as the child is taller than kettle height I really can't see the problem.

ddubsgirl Mon 18-Feb-13 21:02:33

All my boys can and also can cook meals make tea coffee etc and know how to use the washing machine,making drinks was taught from a young age (not allowed to pour kettle) and all make lovely cuppa grin

hatgirl Mon 18-Feb-13 21:07:37

urm I was doing everything from scratch for roast dinners (stuffing/ cauliflower cheese/ roast potatoes etc) baking cakes independently and generally putting a proper tea on from the age of 11 onwards. Before that I was making simple things like pasta/ baked potatoes from about 9/10.

I am genuinely shocked that people think that children this age are entirely incapable of doing this kind of thing... and we wonder why as a country we have an over reliance on ready made things from the supermarket!

Do they not do food tech at school from about age 10 onwards anymore?

My 9 year old brother (at the time) severely burnt himself and had to have skin grafts after pouring a kettle of hot water down himself trying to make our mum a cuppa.

His screams have never ever left me and I've been very iffy about letting my dc use the kettle but I have done. Dd is 10 and makes tea and she is very careful but I still worry.

Ds although asd is very careful about hot stuff but can cook, he's brilliant at Victoria sponges. But he is very ocd at turning switches off,

Hatgirl I remember ds coming home from school one day after having cookery and he told me that they had to make beans on toast for their first lesson. He said the majority of the class didn't have a clue and he was seen as amazing because he could.

These were a class of 11/12 year olds in mainstream school.

But then he does have a friend who is not even allowed to make a sandwich in case he cuts himself on the bread knife! This boy is nearly 13.

exoticfruits Mon 18-Feb-13 22:05:20

My dn who is 9yo recently said he can't spread because he is left handed

Left handed children with right handed parents, who think they look awkward, come out with this rubbish! I challenge it by saying 'I'm left handed and I can spread butter....write neatly etc etc'

SomeBear Mon 18-Feb-13 22:11:40

After I posted, I asked DD1 about her class for Food Tech - from the first lesson out of 31 (she thinks) there were five who had never used a grill or a sharp knife. This is a class of yr 7s... On the other hand, there were three students who did the majority share of meal preparation as their parents were farmers or disabled. She also reminded me that my aunt still gets up at 6am to make my cousin his breakfast and packed lunch before he goes to work. He is 24.

Being left handed does not stop someone from spreading butter etc. They may have issues with cutting stuff though. I tend to pull things apart with my knife rather than cut properly and I know I'm not the only leftie to do this

GregBishopsBottomBitch Mon 18-Feb-13 22:52:43

My DD at 5, tries to show how big she is by making her own toast, not eager to let her take her own toast out, but shes getting good at buttering it.

mummyplum1 Mon 18-Feb-13 22:54:26

Definitely at 10. My 7 year old can make toast. I wouldn't let him touch the kettle though.

hatgirl Mon 18-Feb-13 23:02:48

hmmm after SomeBear's post i'm now wondering if being a farmer was the reason I started cooking from a young age rather than it actually being a normal age appropriate life skill kind of thing to do.

In all fairness.... If I didn't cook we would have literally lived off baked potatoes every night for the whole of lambing time every year.

still, to all those that don't let their children cook until they are past the age where it is worth teaching them, your children are going to be the ones I pitied at university school who try to cook pasta without any water.

Life is risky, taking risks and learning from mistakes is how humans learn and evolve. Get your children cooking potatoes rather than letting them become potatoes!

GregBishopsBottomBitch Tue 19-Feb-13 00:24:23

Hat, my daughter likes to put the chop up tatties in the pan ready to be boiled, she likes getting involved in the cooking, shes learning, we do it safely, so why not.

TroublesomeEx Tue 19-Feb-13 09:27:50

Oh FFS is being left handed really used as an excuse for this too?

I'm left handed and, believe it or not, <whispers> they let me look after my own children and drive a car on the roads that all the right handed people use. I'm even allowed to teach right handed children...

Being LH is only really an impediment for children whose RH parents treat it as a 'condition' of sorts. The rest of us just find a way. Like everybody else!

FoxyRoxy Tue 19-Feb-13 10:40:13

I'm left handed and I can spread butter, I didn't even realise it was supposed to be an issue! I can write neatly without smudging or turning the paper horizontal as well, I must be a genius.

5madthings Tue 19-Feb-13 11:18:45

I am left handed, dp is left handed and so is four yr old ds4, we can all spread butter etc on toast.

Wincher Tue 19-Feb-13 11:23:18

I only just realised this morning when taking my son to nursery late that he is perfectly capable of buttering his own toast (after a fashion) - he is 2.7 and they all do their own at nursery. I must let him have a go at home!

GregBishopsBottomBitch Tue 19-Feb-13 11:24:49

My DD is left handed too, doesnt seem to hinder her.

ouryve Tue 19-Feb-13 11:30:48

My 9yo can with supervision. He can make himself a sandwich, so long as I do any sharp cutting for him. He's not allowed to use the kettle or pans, though. He has SN and bounces around the kitchen like a pinball. I can't even let him stand with me while I fry him an egg because he'll stand with his nose 2" from the pan and lean over the hob with his elbows, completely oblivious, no matter how explicitly and frequently I remind him.

ouryve Tue 19-Feb-13 11:34:19

I'm left handed, btw, and I was baking, boiling eggs, warming up milk, making custard, making cups of tea, coffee etc when I was 10. I only ever had problems with the damned tin opener - this was the days before all the fancy dancy ones that you could use in either hand.

ByTheWay1 Tue 19-Feb-13 11:37:37

My girls (10 and 12) cook -
I'll get scrambled eggs on toast with a mug of tea for my Mother's day breakfast.....

They make better Lemon drizzle cake than I do - and mine is bloomin' good.

They make the salad whenever we have it and make a stunning yellow pepper, carrot and onion soup.

12 year old wanted something hot when we had ham sandwiches on Sunday, so did herself a fried egg sandwich.

What I CANNOT do is watch them do it. shock

dikkertjedap Tue 19-Feb-13 11:37:44

Of course he will be able to do it.

My six year old makes toast herself (in toaster, not grill).

GregBishopsBottomBitch Tue 19-Feb-13 11:40:26

My DD's school sees her left handedness as an issue, shes the only leftie in the family, but shes adapted to it, she finds her way in doing things, i dont see being a leftie, as a hindrance or an excuse.

BlackAffronted Tue 19-Feb-13 11:41:40

Erm, my 10 year old makes pasta for dinner. My 12 year old makes prope rmeals such as mince & tatties. They have been making otast for years!

moosemama Tue 19-Feb-13 11:46:25

My ds (10) can make toast using the gas grill - we don't have a toaster - but doesn't do it unsupervised, as he has SN and his attention span and co-ordination aren't great.

All 3 dcs (ds2 8 and dd 4) can make their own sandwiches, although of course we do 'help' dd with cutting hers up.

Admittedly they're not the most beautiful looking sandwiches you'll ever have seen, but they swear they taste nicer when they've made them themselves.

Ds1 and ds2 have also started preparing a meal for the family each weekend as part of their pocket-money deal. They are supervised, but we try not to helicopter and let them do as much of it as it's safe/physically possible for them to do.

Neither boy is allowed to use the kettle yet, although I was at their age. Both boys have hypotonia and hypermobility, so lifting a kettle and pouring a jug, let alone a kettle is something they both struggle with.

5madthings Tue 19-Feb-13 11:51:28

Ds2 is ten and is making chilli for dinner tonight as he wants to, I shall supervise from the dining room whilst I mnet and offer advice if necessary, but he knows how to make it.

Ds1 is 13 and regularly cooks meals, makesspup, bakes cakes etc, he enjoys cooking.

The younger ones help peel and chop etc and ds3 can make sandwiches, toast, porridge, but then I involve therm in the running of the household, this morning they have been washing up, sweeping floors, tidying and hovering bedrooms etc.

Children are perfectly capable of doing these things and I see it as my job as their parent to ensure they grow up to be self sufficient adults.

quoteunquote Tue 19-Feb-13 11:53:24

Can I ask how you start the younger ones off using knives?

start with a talk about responsibility, and that only if they can demonstrate concentration and sensible attitude will they be trusted to use such a dangerous tool,

use a non serrated very medium sized sharp knife, stand them at a table with a thin non slip chopping board,

slice a cucumber lengthways, place it flat side down on the board, show them how to hold the cucumber with the non knife hand, fingers bent in backwards, so only the knuckles stick out,

video.about.com/busycooks/How-to-Hold-a-Knife.htm

www.seriouseats.com/2010/05/knife-skills-how-to-hold-a-knife.html

www.thekitchn.com/how-to-learn-basic-knife-skill-108959

show them these, talk them through it, if you hold your knife correctly there is far less chance of hurting yourself as you have better control, talk about where the knife gets placed when not in use, (middle of the table, blade pointing away)

feckwit Tue 19-Feb-13 12:10:15

Even my 8 year old makes toast and uses the kettle. She can cook basic things like pasta, peel veg, turn the oven on and off, use the microwave. I think the greatest skill we can give our children is independence.

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM Tue 19-Feb-13 12:23:02

My 9 yo made me breakfast in bed on Friday - toast with peanut butter, a bowl of Cheerios and a cup of coffee grin Totally unexpected (I've taught her to do it for herself, never expected her to do it for me though!) and she makes the best coffee in the world (instant).

She can make pancakes, use the toaster, use the microwave and has been using the kettle for about 3 months. She is a dab hand at cakes but I help her with the finer points of not getting the mixture on the floor/dog/me grin

My DS (currently in womb) makes a mean Beef Wellington <nerr Mini Mushroom> wink

SmiteYouWithThunderbolts Tue 19-Feb-13 12:27:08

Thanks to this thread, I have informed ds1 (8yo) that I'm going to teach him to cook. He rolled his eyes and thinks I'm the meanest mum EVER because I've also recently taught him how to use the washing machine and started getting him to put his own clothes on the airer. grin

When I was 16, I dated a lad whose mum did everything for him. Granted he was in a wheelchair but to my mind that just meant that stuff needed to be kept low enough for him to reach it. Not so in his house. His mum did all his laundry - including going round his room picking stuff up from wherever he dropped it), made every meal for him and tidied up after him constantly. I was bemused to begin with but when it got to the point where he'd ring me at college to ask me to go over to his house to make lunch because his mum had gone out, I realised he saw me as just the next cleaner/carer/maid in his life. Poor bloke didn't even know how to make toast or a Pot Noodle! shock

Anyway, when I look at my children - especially my sons - I am reminded of that guy and how much I do not want my children to be incapable of fixing themselves a decent meal as young adults.

There was a good article in the Saturday or maybe Sunday times this week about what children should be able to cook at what age. Basic tomato sauce and pasta, scrambled eggs etc....I resolved to teach DS (aged 8) who is quite interested a bit more. I am embarrassed to say he hasn't used the toaster. He will start.

Late to the thread I know, but DD is 12.5 and can cook a basic dinner. I'm just beginning to teach DS (who's 9 today grin) so he can cook as well. Good skills to learn.

Meanwhile, they have been getting their own breakfasts, including toast, for at least 3-4 years, with DD helping DS when he was younger. I'm a great believer in getting them to be independent

Yfronts Tue 19-Feb-13 13:18:45

yes

quoteunquote Tue 19-Feb-13 13:44:06

a relative of mine ,a few years ago, commissioned (cost millions) a study into why they were losing so many students from the university, the course only take the very best,

they found that the students all which had gained the highest marks possible, had mainly done so because they had parents that gave very high levels of support,

when these students took up their places at university they were well equipped to deal with the academic aspect of uni life,

but when they were failing to eat three health meals, have clean clothes, clean bedding, be reminded to wash, access medical treatment, sleep well, generally run their own lives, rather than rely on parents to do it for them or remind them, they were then over come by strain and dropped out, costing the universities lots of money,

Now if you want to do a lot of the courses, you have to do a year away from home in industry, the uni found that this helped the students to become independent, so when they did start the course they were equipped to cope, once this was in place they lost hardly any students.

my eldest is off at uni, he was the only one in his house of 12, who knew how to self manage, he cooks anything easily, has always done his own washing, stripped his bed, and remade it, can clean easily, and knows how to run a budget, organise his medical treatment, and sleep pattens,

A gap year working, living away will help,

but it is a major handicap to your child to not be able to easily prepare healthy food from scratch.

It's just edible chemistry experiments, once you understand the principles, none of it is hard,

I love half term as mine do a lot of cooking, I leave them to it and enjoy the results.

quoteunquote And that is exactly why I'm raising the DCs to be able to live independently. They get plenty of support, but I want them to be able to look after themselves when older, hence the cokkery lessons at home. (Along with chores, etc grin)

GingerbreadGretel Tue 19-Feb-13 14:13:03

My ten-year-old has just made a chocolate cake and yes he can manage the toaster. Makes and grills his own burger patties, can do soup, etc.

He is not the most coordinated (DCD), so finds some chopping and peeling tasks hard, but we're working on it.

MrsTomHardy Tue 19-Feb-13 14:19:08

Yes he can make toast, and wrap pizza's and cups of tea....prob a lot more things tbh

quoteunquote Tue 19-Feb-13 14:20:13

The Amish think we are exceptionally cruel to our children as we do not properly prepare them for life, and it comes as a shock when they realise what is involved in running a home and a life,

a tiny Amish toddler is allowed to gather twigs and keep the kindling baskets full, each job is considered important, if you do it correctly you are then trusted with the responsibility to do another, so children want the next job up as they want to be viewed as equals.

my children think it is a great honour to be trusted to use ingredients, they know if they break that trust by being careless, they will no longer be allowed to have access to the kitchen,

It takes one person four hours to clean a house, and five people less than hour to do the same, everyone in this house mucks in each time anything needs to be done, and because everyone does it to the best of their ability it get done super quick, and properly.

toddlers are brilliant at pulling clothes out of a machine, everyone can help,

my youngest are 9 and 11, there isn't anything in the house they can't do to the same standard that their dad and I do, some of it better than us,

it is not an effort as they have always mucked in they have no idea people don't, they just do stuff without being asked as they know at some point someone will mention it, so they get things out the way before they get involved with what ever they are doing.

DesiderataHollow Thu 21-Feb-13 08:08:48

quoteunquote
Yes Tudor children are the same. We often get told "you'd never get a modern child to do that" when re-enacting.

IT never seems to occur to them that we don't really have a time machine, and that the 5 year-old carefully chopping vegetables, the 7 years old using a chisel, or the 6 year old working in the dairy will all be back at school on Monday morning in the 21st century.

DewDr0p Thu 21-Feb-13 09:36:49

Inspired by this thread I got ds1 (8) to make beans on toast for the dcs' tea last night! It went v well if a little slowly. grin

meddie Thu 21-Feb-13 11:41:52

I too taught my children to be independent, as it was always in the back of my mind that they would be leaving to go to Uni at 18 and needed to know these skills
from around 9 they could make a basic meal such as beans on toast and a cup of tea
by 11 they were able to put a wash in and hang it up and iron
by their mid teens they could bake and do a proper meal.
They both went to Uni and lived on mcdonalds and pot noodles sigh
Son appeared at his first summer holiday with a bin bag full of underpants. He never left with that many. Discovered that instead of washing them he was buying a new 5 pack from primark every week.

Hulababy Thu 21-Feb-13 11:47:40

My 10y can. But she is pretty handy in the kitchen - can cook a meal and bake pretty much independently plus make hot drinks.

1805 Thu 21-Feb-13 11:56:16

I love my dc escapades in the kitchen! The fairy cakes they made themselves were appalling - dc are 10 and 7. They of course thought they were delicious.

10yo can do baked beans, soup, toast etc, pasta, tea coffee and squash, most basic stuff all ok.

7yo burned her thumb by touching the pan on the stove and gashed her finger with a sharp knife. It's ok. It's the way she learns.

willoughboobs Thu 21-Feb-13 12:25:53

my 7 year old ds makes toast, sandwiches,little picnics, cereals and helps with making meals. i am just worried about the kettle but i know he's got to learn soon.
as for cleaning he can polish,clean and set a table, clean all his bedroom then polish and hoover, he also cleans up after his dog on the garden smile

My 8 & 10. Dd both make toast but I'm also interested at the consensus for kettles god the thought of asking them to make a cup of tea ahh I'm easy pleased

Virgil Thu 21-Feb-13 13:27:09

Also inspired by this thread I asked Ds1 (7) to make lunch today. He cooked us a lovely chicken risotto. He's very proud of himself and said he really enjoyed it.

Virgil Thu 21-Feb-13 13:28:10

I did make up the chicken stock into a jug so that he didn't need to pour the kettle.

1805 Thu 21-Feb-13 14:17:15

10yr has used the kettle for some time now. 7yr - it'll prob be a while yet - see post up-thread.

DS (10) can make toast, tea, a fried egg sandwich (with the requisite masses of ketchup) and a sponge cake. Did a tomato sauce for pasta on Sat for the first time but I helped.

steppemum Thu 21-Feb-13 14:29:12

7 year old baked a cake by herself (GO AWAY MUMMY I AM MAKING THIS CAKE NOT YOU) on Saturday - I did ask her to get me when she did the melting butter in saucepan part, and when she took it out of oven.

10 year old does cakes, toast, tea etc

5 year old can do toast - she uses oven gloves to get it out of toaster grin (but she isn't allowed to do it on her own, she asks her sibling to help)

steppemum Thu 21-Feb-13 14:36:15

and 10 year old makes a mean beans on toast, and 7 year old apple crumble

we had a discussion last week about each of them cooking a cake in turns for the family at weekend.
dds 8th birthday party next week is a 'Great British Bake Off' party and they will all be baking something lovely and then eating it for the birthday tea

they also do chores, load and unload dishwasher, look after pets, hovering, change their own beds. (my 5 year old happily strips her bed for me - I do the clean sheets for her) They are used to sorting washing, putting it in machine etc.

Life skills - essential

quoteunquote - couldn't agree with you more

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