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to not bother using a humane mouse trap?

(76 Posts)
Flojobunny Sat 16-Feb-13 17:56:19

No I'm not being serious but I've got a mouse loose about my house sad and the bastard thing has eaten through my rivetas that I was saving for a saturday eve treat instead of chocolate angry and I've chewed through the kids cheerios and pasta and savoury rice and cake mix angry

Flojobunny Sat 16-Feb-13 17:57:07

Tempted to bypass the cosy mouse trap and get out my rolling pin!

Flojobunny Sat 16-Feb-13 17:57:58

*I've ?! = the mouse!

nocake Sat 16-Feb-13 18:00:00

I'd never use a humane trap. Instead I have a plastic spring trap that I bait with peanut butter. I also use poison bait outside.

chickensarmpit Sat 16-Feb-13 18:01:19

Rentokil squashed into mars bars works a treat. Yes it kills them but I'm sure you're not supposed to catch and release them (could be just rats). Don't ever use the sticky traps, cruelest thing I have ever come across.

Thornintherose Sat 16-Feb-13 18:02:15

Nothing works! We had mice - very cheeky ones at that, they were fearless, I would see them everywhere. We tried all kinds of traps, poisons etc. Nothing would make them go I would still see one upto 10 times a night sitting on the sofa, the rug, everywhere. In the end we got our cat back who'd been on an extended holiday at MIL's since we'd moved house a few times. Haven't seen one since.

We're in London though so maybe the mice are more fearless!

I bloody hate mice but I would never use poison - lots of stories of owls being killed after eating mice which have eaten poisoned bait. Never sure why humans think it's ok just to kill animals just because they are a nuisance.

Muminwestlondon Sat 16-Feb-13 18:06:00

We were infested for a couple of years. Tried the "humane" traps (catching them alive) but only caught babies. We tried the lethal spring traps plus poison which killed a few but not the majority. We tried professional pest controllers which were just as useless. In the end we got a cat and while she only caught a couple of them, the mice packed up and left within a few weeks.

frustratedworkingmum Sat 16-Feb-13 18:06:37

If you use humane traps you need to release the mouse at least a mile away from your house. Otherwise the little fuckers mice come back

MrsRajeshKoothrappali Sat 16-Feb-13 18:07:38

Get a cat.

Or put a mint plant down. They (mice) can't stand it.

Montybojangles Sat 16-Feb-13 18:09:45

We had a mouse one time, came in and out through a gap under our conservatory lean too into utility and plundered the dog biscuits. Got it the 3rd night in a humane trap. Ignored the peanut butter first 2 nights, but went straight in for the nutella. Was pretty cute. You have to take them and drip them off a good couple of miles away or they can find their way home apparently.

Montybojangles Sat 16-Feb-13 18:10:41

drop not drip FFS!

MrsRajeshKoothrappali Sat 16-Feb-13 18:11:35

Ignored the peanut butter first 2 nights, but went straight in for the nutella. Was pretty cute.

Awwww. I'd have probably bought it a cage to live in and given it a name.

grin

Rooneyisalwaysmoaning Sat 16-Feb-13 18:12:24

Never had them in the kitchen funnily enough but that's probably because I don't keep much food in the house!
We had one the other week, had made its way in from the cold - I used the rentokil plastic trap with some chocolate spread on it. Worked within a few hours and very quick death but still sad sad
It was a fat little fecker.
These traps are the best I've ever found - had them 10 years ago and they saw off a family of 5.
The Big cheese ones supposedly ready baited don't do a thing. I got some of each from wilkinsons btw.

Humane traps never worked for me either, our cat is hopeless too.

TeeBee Sat 16-Feb-13 18:14:04

There was a study showing that even if you release mice two miles away from a humane trap, the same mice will return. Proper spring traps are cheap and effective. Peanut butter or chocolate as bait (not cheese, its a myth). I've found mint also effective.

ratbagcatbag Sat 16-Feb-13 18:15:53

Had humane traps in the loft but never caught one, had snappy traps down and got rid of 15 in 10 days ad still get an odd one, don't get them in the house, our cats a hunter. smile

Rooneyisalwaysmoaning Sat 16-Feb-13 18:16:28

Oh and don't use the poison if you can help it - it kills them by slow internal bleeding, they get ver confused and doddery for a few days, I watched one come out from under the piano one time, stumbling and smilimg at me (if mice can smile) and it ate its way through even more of the poisoned seeds. I cried sad
They turn up dead days or weeks later in the most awfully unexpected places..one died inside a jumper I then wore, and washed several times because it smelt so bad, before the mouse eventually fell out of it hmm It was a baggy jumper..
I had slight ptsd from finding them in drawers, in bags under the stairs etc for months, I jumped at everything. Served me right really. Similarly I had to kill a rat who was dying of poison, it was covered in flies, really awful thing to seeand so I caught it a nd tried to drown it and that took bloody ages as well sadOh God there is no good way to kill these poor creatures.

Montybojangles Sat 16-Feb-13 18:17:20

I was pretty tempted MrsRajeshKoothrappali my neighbour told me it was a wood mouse rather than a house mouse (which was why it was so cute) so I felt it might be wrong to keep him in if he preferred the trees!

armagh Sat 16-Feb-13 18:20:30

Sweet Jesus- you wore a jumper with a dead mouse in it. Faints.... I'd have been hospitalised.

Roseformeplease Sat 16-Feb-13 18:21:56

My best ever mouse story comes from a colleague. They had mice but also a pet hamster. A mouse had squeezed its way into the hamster cage and eaten tonnes of hamster food. It was so fat, and full, it couldn't get out so they had a sort of humane trap, but with a resident hamster inside.

We use poison. Put it in the attic, or along the floor by the walls in small lids of jars. It taste disgusting to humans but my children are old enough to steer clear. Keep topping up the poison until it is no longer taken. Then remove poison from everywhere except the attic and keep an eye on that.

CointreauVersial Sat 16-Feb-13 18:23:50

We had mice upstairs recently, coming in from the loft.

Human traps were pretty useless; we only caught one, and the little blighters were just feasting on free peanut butter every night without springing the traps. They were waking us up rustling about in the bin in our bedroom at 4am.

So we bought some poison. Every night for a week it was taken, then one morning it wasn't, and we haven't heard anything since. I guess that means there are mouse bodies somewhere in the loft, but then it was pointed out that the mice would still be dying at some point.

I bought a "mummifying" poison, Sorexa, recommended on MN; apparently it dries the bodies out so they don't whiff as much.

Flojobunny Sat 16-Feb-13 18:24:15

Are u sure it wasn't the washing machine that killed the mouse? Maybe it had gone for a nap.

YANBU

I've had mice come in during the really cold spells and we only use the snap traps. Putting poison down means that they can go on to kill owls and other predatory birds, and the humane traps (sticky ones) are just barbaric.

chickensarmpit Sat 16-Feb-13 18:29:25

The sticky traps aren't humane. The mice will actually chew there legs off to set themselves free. Evil things should be banned.

Madmum24 Sat 16-Feb-13 18:34:00

Well we are having some mousey housemates at the moment :-( Tried alsorts of traps (baited with bounty, mars and snickers on alternate days kids were so excited they asked if they could have some if mouse wasn't caught within a day ) put poison down and still nothing......

My husband ending up killing it by squeezing it to death with the end of a broom handle (I had to reassure him for the next three nights during his horrendous mouse nightmares) I went to B and Q to ask for sticky paper stuff and the guy gave me a look as if I'd killed his mother in front of him.

Never had such disruption in my life, we camped in the living room for a week (they were upstairs enjoying my super king sized bed) but thankfully no sign of anymore. Apparently putting down a tray of cat litter is enough to deter them from even entering a house.

Twattybollocks Sat 16-Feb-13 18:34:23

Honestly, just get the old fashioned spring traps and bait them with bacon rind or chocolate. The sight of a partially decapitated mouse isn't pleasant I grant you, but at least it's a quick death, far preferable to poison!
The humane traps don't really work ime, I've had mice in the feed room at the stables and mice in the garage and the spring traps worked where the humane ones never caught anything. I couldn't ever bring myself to use poison, it's vile stuff.

Montybojangles Sat 16-Feb-13 18:36:05

Why would you need a sticky trap? The humane one I used had a kind of seesaw door, so once in it just couldn't get back out, no need to stck the poor thing to the floor.

Bubblegum78 Sat 16-Feb-13 18:37:20

We used humane mouse traps and they don't work.

We bought a pair from our local hardware store for about £4. Put the bait in (we usesd chocolate) and BAM! It snaps down on their heads!

Mwahahahahaha!

Got rid of 6 of the buggers in a week. winks

The only decent thing about having mice is that they get rid of any and all spiders in your house - unfortuately counterbalanced by the mice pissing over everything they walk across and being germy little fuckers.

Not had mice in a while, but still have a trap at the main 'highway' into the house (can't get to the hole) and it's baited with chocolate.

"My husband ending up killing it by squeezing it to death with the end of a broom handle"

shock

Whatsdoneisdoneisdone Sat 16-Feb-13 18:58:48

I caught one in a humane trap.
It died, presumably of a heart attack, after wetting itself a million times and frantically gnawing at the trap (teeth marks in the plastic). It did not seem terribly humane. When I opened it its face was frozen like the people in the film The Ring.
After that I switched to snap traps. I caught three and found it quite satisfying. Which worried me as generally I am an animal lover and gave been veggie for 26 years!

CointreauVersial Sat 16-Feb-13 19:02:39

I didn't want to use snappy traps because I heard some horror stories about partially-trapped mice being still alive, and I don't think I could cope with that (even with a broom handle).

I doubt I'll be killing any owls, as I don't imagine my loft-dwelling mice ever venture outside.

Twattybollocks Sat 16-Feb-13 19:04:54

I've caught many a mouse in the spring traps and never found anything even warm the next day let alone still alive.

ratbagcatbag Sat 16-Feb-13 19:06:52

We had one alive one, but it snapped at two am and heard it dragging the trap around sad DH dispatched it with a small wooden hand brush.

insancerre Sat 16-Feb-13 19:09:08

I don't mind mice. I just don't want them in my house. Which is why we used the poison.
The only drawback is that they die and stink the house out for a couple of weeks.

austenozzy Sat 16-Feb-13 19:11:28

We've got three cats so we don't have mice in here. But they do occasionally catch various types of rodents in the farm next door or fields around us, bring them in and let them go while still alive!

Then they crawl into a tight space, die, and I have to get on my hands and knees and find them. The smell is really something else.

We had one once that found its way into the swing lid bin we use to keep dog food in. I didn't spot him in there for a few days, and he died. He was a fat little bastard when I hooked him out - must've gorged on the dog food and died happy!

EndoplasmicReticulum Sat 16-Feb-13 19:17:10

I don't know if this is true - but I read somewhere that if you use a humane trap and deport the mouse they are likely to starve to death as you put them out of their territory.

Get a cat? (not very humane, but should get rid of the mice!)

EspressoMonkey Sat 16-Feb-13 19:18:13

Best tip i have been given is to put a blob of Nutella in a bit of old tights and stick that on the trap. They get their teeth caught in the tights and then snap.

Worst mouse story: My friend was renovating her house and they had vermin. She put her baby down for an afternoon nap and when she woke him up an hour later a rat/mouse had gnawed on his sleep suit cuff where there was some left over lunch. Make me feel sick just thinking of it.

DumSpiroSpero Sat 16-Feb-13 19:18:37

YANBU - old fashioned spring loaded traps with a chunk of chocolate are the best - quick, effective and you don't have to worry about furry bodies rotting under the floorboards.

My most memorable encounter with a mouse was finding a dead one in my footwell after driving 10 miles to visit my parents. Whether it was already dead or whether I flattened it with the clutch pedal I'll never know confused.

BambieO Sat 16-Feb-13 19:38:46

Please don't use glue traps. I naively didnt think what they would entail when our next door neighbour had a rat and when we put a glue trap a small mouse for caught and I cried for hours because it was so horrific. It was dying slowly all it's limbs were broken, I have it some water and food and my husband had to end it's life because it was obviously in so much pain.

It was one of the saddest things I have seen. I still feel dreadful and tell everyone not to ever consider them.

BambieO Sat 16-Feb-13 19:39:06

*got not for

BambieO Sat 16-Feb-13 19:39:32

Oh and *gave not have - I give up blush

Rooneyisalwaysmoaning Sat 16-Feb-13 19:43:16

Oh gosh Bambie I am so sorry for what you went through, I can imagine how awful that must have been. I'd have cried buckets too.

I felt so sad with the mouse we caught last week, but I know it was quick, at least - I was wondering if he ever got to taste the chocolate spread before he died sad poor little mite.
But leaving them in the house doesn't work - they eat through cables and all sorts of things, it can cause fires and so on. And sticky traps clearly aren't the answer, and humane ones are a bit hit and miss. So what do you do?

I think a bit like with rats and terriers, a cat if it's an effectual one is probably the best and most natural solution. Ours did bring in a dead baby rat once, but she never catches mice in the house.

Pixel Sat 16-Feb-13 19:51:02

We've only ever had one and if it wasn't for the possible cable chewing/firestarting scenario I'd have left him be, he was so cute! He vanished after many nights of emptying my traps (snappy and humane) of peanut butter so I think the cat must have finally got him. I'm thinking that by then he was too fat to run away wink.

feralgirl Sat 16-Feb-13 20:12:22

YANBU about the mouse but YABU to have ryvita as a treat grin

wrt poison, I had a mouse that the cats very thoughtfully set loose in the house and it completely refused the humane trap so I poisoned it. It spent a whole day sat on the hearth twitching and I have never felt so guilty. I obviously couldn't take it outside and leave it as I was afraid a cat, badger or fox would eat it and get poisoned. The only think I could think of to do was put it in a carrier bag and hit it with a spade. I still shudder to think of it sad

I once found a dessicated dead mouse in our 'clean' laundry basket and another one welded on to the front of our rayburn <boak>

Nigglenaggle Sat 16-Feb-13 20:20:15

Humane traps arent so humane, more a squeemish trap. As others have said unless you move the critter miles away he/she will just come back in, and by moving them from their territory they are likely to starve and otherwise be outcompeted to death.

Poison is really unforgiveable on welfare grounds - they bleed to death slowly over 2 weeks. Not humane and should be banned.

The traditional snap traps are often quite good actually - normally it gets them in the middle of the head and death must be pretty quick - maybe bait it with rivitas ;P

What I really recommend though, is a good cat - we get lots of mice in but none of them make 24hrs. She is far too greedy to play with them, straight down the throat :D

Nigglenaggle Sat 16-Feb-13 20:20:44

Haha and ditto to feral about the rivitas :P

psynl Sat 16-Feb-13 20:41:46

We used traditional spring traps to catch our mice which were effective. One morning though, we put the toaster on to be greeted by a horrible burning hair smell. Electrocuted / burnt mouse was not what I wanted for breakfast!

Dominodonkey Sat 16-Feb-13 20:49:03

What a lot of disgusting cruel people there are on mumsnet - I really don't see why you can't buy the humane ones and set them free.

Mumsnetters find the idea of a tap on a child's hand for bad behaviour absolutely horrifying but it's perfectly fine to torture animals to death.

LessMissAbs Sat 16-Feb-13 20:52:01

When mice start making a mess in my (old, rural) house, I use rat traps to ensure a clean kill. They're bigger and more powerful. I use chocolate as bait. Ideally you don't want them to bleed a lot which means they died straight away. I will live with a few mice, but when they get bad I take action.

I heard of some people using "humane" mouse traps and simply throwing them in the rubbish with the mouse still in them! Also, a house mice is likely to freeze to death if released into the outdoors at this time of year!

BambieO Sat 16-Feb-13 20:52:50

domino I know it makes me sound incredibly dense but I genuinely didnt relise what a glue trap entailed, I thought you could take them off and release them.

I did and still do feel disgusted with myself and will never forget that poor mouse.

I didn't mean for it to happen, I just didnt do enough research. I didn't mean to be cruel.

Nigglenaggle Sat 16-Feb-13 20:56:03

Domino humane traps are not humane. It just gives you the good feeling of the mouse running off to enjoy his new life, while he starves to death somewhere foreign. A mile away is a whole different world to a mouse. If someone shoved you in a car and dumped you in the middle of the French countryside with no wallet, phone or food would you think it was humane?

PessaryPam Sat 16-Feb-13 20:56:37

Keeel theeem... Plastic traps work with a combo of peanut butter and chocolate

clippityclop Sat 16-Feb-13 21:00:24

Borrow a cat.

Coconutty Sat 16-Feb-13 21:01:06

Humane ones are totally shit and don't work. We tried loads although I was worried about catching one and then driving it miles away, in case it spent the rest of it's life searching for its family.

Didn't work anyway so we got a snap trap, job done. Bit icky but you can't have mice and children imo.

Uppermid Sat 16-Feb-13 21:02:14

We used the traditional traps, were quite anti the poison for all the above reasons. Til the little shits chewed through the wires and we had no electricity downstairs over Christmas, no heating or hot water either. Since using the poison, not had any problems..

OpheliasWeepingWillow Sat 16-Feb-13 21:03:09

I once trapped a mouse in a conventional mousetrap. It caught its nose at 3am and the screams will never leave me sad and I am not squeamish. It was horrible. I had to drown it in the kitchen sink.

PessaryPam Sat 16-Feb-13 21:09:00

Ophelias you should have brained it to put it down.

Tortington Sat 16-Feb-13 21:17:13

i actually saw the mice in my house, they were so cute looked cute like this

but they multiply like fuck

so i poisened them i read online that even if you catch them and them throw them out - they are very clever and can find their way back up to a mile or something - so i killed them

PessaryPam Sat 16-Feb-13 21:22:08

Custardo that is exactly what we ended up doing. we were Mr Nice Guy and then we had to get serious.

DumSpiroSpero Sat 16-Feb-13 21:23:23

I don't think any 'normal' human being wants to kill another living thing, but if it's a case of despatching a few critters by trap or my DD's health & wellbeing (when we had a proper infestation she was 2 and into everything) then it's no contest I'm afraid.

I will even catch spiders and transfer then to the garden quite happily, but once I found evidence of mice getting all over my kitchen, there was very little I wouldn't have done to get shot of them tbh.

susiey Sat 16-Feb-13 21:35:39

We used humane traps ( on request of our veggie lodger!)for a while. My DH was in charge of taking them to the local park . we caught 3 or so until one day he took one , thought he'd got rid of it ,went home to reset the trap and a little whiskery head popped out! Never seen him jump so far!

We then started using a plastic snap trap caught about 3 and except when we leave the kitchen messy we never catch them now!
Is so much easier baiting catching and killing them with the snap traps!

Tanith Sat 16-Feb-13 22:16:02

We had a mouse once. We think the cat brought it in angry

We tried a couple of those humane traps - it just chewed its way out of them. It also chewed through a box of cayenne pepper grin

We had to get a killer trap in the end sad Nothing else worked.

Flojobunny Sun 17-Feb-13 08:29:44

I have a live mouse in my trap!
Only had one humane trap in so set that up and after what everyone has said I wasn't expecting to find a mouse in it! And an alive one at that. Used it years ago and found a dead mouse in it.
Do u think this mouse with have friends? Or is it just as likely to be a lone ranger?

Flojobunny Sun 17-Feb-13 08:32:12

I am genuine surprised how many people use snap traps and poison. But I am not judging, having a serious mouse problem isn't fun.
I just hope this little fella survives when I drop him off a few miles away near DS gymnastics class later.

lljkk Sun 17-Feb-13 09:23:42

We have done all types of traps, I wouldn't say the humane one was rubbish.

The problem with dropping live mouse miles away is that you've removed them from their family & they are straight into hostile mouse territory; hostile colony will attempt to kill them. Their chances of survival are thin. Assuming you haven't dumped your pest on someone else's property to breed & annoy them.

Plus if it's a female mouse, she may have left her babies behind so they're dead, too. I don't think there are many humane choices in mouse control.

feralgirl Sun 17-Feb-13 13:31:23

The problem with poison is that it quite often advertises itself as being "instant" and "humane". The stuff I bought certainly did and I assumed it was telling the truth. I worry putting live shrews (the cats bring them in but don't kill them as they taste nasty) back out in the garden as I know that if I get it wrong (i.e. front or back) they will be killed by other shrews.

I actually resent being referred to as "disgusting" and "cruel" Domino; I am neither.

LayMizzRarb Sun 17-Feb-13 17:00:48

My friends cat deposited a badly injured bat on her face at 4am. (They live in the country) The poor thing was screeching in pain. It is illegal to kill them, it's also near impossible as well apparently.

BarbJohnson5 Sun 17-Feb-13 17:15:31

We had a mice infestation in the house we were renting. It became a nightmare for us. One night i had one crawl over me as i lay upright(sitting) asleep after coming out of hospital. I was horrified that i didn't go back to sleep and couldn't wait for daylight. I bought one of those 'sensors' that's supposed to scare them away. I didn't work. I could still hear them gnawing away in the crevice and in between my neighbour's walls. I did see several of them after that and must say they were so cute. My neighbour who also had the same problem kept telling me to buy those sticky boards, but i couldn't stand the thought of seeing them stuck on it, it turned my stomach so we just lived with them until we moved. Now we don't worry about bleaching down every part of the kitchen before breakfast and can leave things on the side as well as sleep in peace.
Couldn't put down any poison as i had a 2 year old who was into everything. Thing is, before discovering the mice my daughter was still crawling around the floor as 2 year olds do and she ended up in hospital with diahorrea and vomiting for 4 days. I suspect she ate something from the floor, which could have been soiled by the mice......gag

Porkster Sun 17-Feb-13 17:22:25

We don't get mice, but we do get rats sometimes. (We have a river in our garden)

We shoot them - they like the bird table so quite easy to target.

Uppermid Sun 17-Feb-13 17:22:37

Sorry domino, faced with a choice of no electricity and huge bill to re wire the house or kill a few mice, the mice loose every time. That and finding mouse shit everywhere. We have a cat, but she's an old lady and pretty damn useless.

sarahtigh Sun 17-Feb-13 19:00:52

no method is humane, but I reckon snap spring traps are the best death is usually quick as most go head first for bait, if not dead you need to put in a bag and hit back of head sharply with rolling pin not pleasant but really the kindest thing to do

humane ones that you release far away make you feel better but are not humane, a house mouse is unlikely to survive in the wild, no family, hostile territory so maybe forced out by resident group, if the mouse had babies they will starve in the house

poison takes a few days to work, etc so if you have mice and have to get rid of them spring traps are the kindest

RubixCube Sun 17-Feb-13 20:15:40

I remember my mum had a mouse she had tried to get rid of it for ages.When i went down next to see her i seen it on her curtain pole then it climbed down the curtain and onto the window seal..I got a peice of paper and opened the window and shoed it's little bum out of the window with the paper and then a cat ran up the garden.Think it was safe the say it was a goner.

RubixCube Sun 17-Feb-13 20:17:50

My mum had loads of poison down.But it didn't seem to work.I don't think it touched it either.I'm glad he wasn't poisoned to death

RubixCube Sun 17-Feb-13 20:35:17

I remember when my cat left me a nice suprise on my bed,a dead mouse envy

IneedAsockamnesty Sun 17-Feb-13 20:38:40

lurked

What are you supposed to do? Serve them an eviction notice?

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