To think the Sun has reached an all time low with it's front page today

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Reeva Steenkamp is dead and the Sun still think it's acceptable to run pictures of her in sexy bikini poses.

MushroomSoup Fri 15-Feb-13 03:16:56

Well, she was a model. Of shots just like that. It's how she made a living. What other shots would they use?

As I don't want to in increase hits on the sun webpage I'll link to it here instead.

halesball Fri 15-Feb-13 03:43:03

YANBU thinking that they shouldn't have printed the pictures, but YABU thinking that this is when they've hit an all time low. They clearly hit an all time low when they accused Liverpool supporters of causing the Hillsborough Disaster. And then their further made up accusations of what Liverpool fans did to the dead and dying well that IMO was an all time low.

differentnameforthis Fri 15-Feb-13 04:05:15

really, the Sun, all time low?

They are so low, they can't get any lower! See halesball as for why!

GreenLeafTea Fri 15-Feb-13 04:15:27

Wow, she was beautiful. Yes, The Sun is low. Nothing new there.

Boutdesouffle Fri 15-Feb-13 04:26:59

YABU. What halesball said ^ that was an all time low.

FellatioNels0n Fri 15-Feb-13 04:32:06

I agree. She was an extremely beautiful young woman with her clothes on too. It was not necessary to pick that photo, but I suppose you could really on the vile Sun to kill two birds with one stone couldn't you? Ironic pun intended.

FellatioNels0n Fri 15-Feb-13 04:32:32

rely. Damned autocorrect

Isityouorme Fri 15-Feb-13 06:34:08

It's the Sun ... What do you expect!!

meditrina Fri 15-Feb-13 07:02:27

Sadly typical of the Sun.

But actually part of me is pleased when the victim is put at the centre of the story. For so much of the coverage is all about him, to the extent that a woman's death seems little more than a prop in his story.

RIP Reeva Steenkamp.

KenDoddsDadsDog Fri 15-Feb-13 07:17:46

Sun is scum anyway

fluffyraggies Fri 15-Feb-13 07:36:10

meditrina - "But actually part of me is pleased when the victim is put at the centre of the story."

I agree, but sadly i'm inclined to think that if the victim wasn't a model with plenty of bikini shots to choose from, The Sun's coverage of the story would have ben differently skewed.

shesariver Fri 15-Feb-13 08:33:38

mushroom I have seen plenty pictures of her with clothes on actually. Just because that was her job doesnt mean they had to show her in a bikini.

Adversecamber Fri 15-Feb-13 08:40:23

I'm afraid I expect nothing decent from something as low as the Sun.

It has consistently been the best selling paper in the UK since 1950. I just double checked on line.

Leaves a bad feeling.

Fakebook Fri 15-Feb-13 09:03:02

It's the Sun...what did you expect? A ten page written obituary?

Rhiannon86 Fri 15-Feb-13 09:10:54

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kim147 Fri 15-Feb-13 09:15:12

Any excuse to print pictures of women wearing hardly any clothes on its front page.

ILoveTIFFANY Fri 15-Feb-13 09:17:03

What pics are the other papers using?

Mydelilah Fri 15-Feb-13 10:13:37

YANBU to highlight that The Sun is disrespectful to women and generally a disgusting rag. It would BU to expect anything else from the Sun though, which is why I never read it wink

Rhiannon86 Fri 15-Feb-13 10:15:23

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Adversecamber Fri 15-Feb-13 10:16:24

Just checked online again, Sun started in early 1960's, apologies. Anyway it is far too popular for my liking.

sukysue Fri 15-Feb-13 10:17:50

Not surprised at this and let's face it the Sun prob isn't the only paper to do this. As for me yuk it's creepy .

ChairmanWow Fri 15-Feb-13 10:40:47

God I hate that 'if it's popular than it must be right' argument. It doesn't justify the Sun as a disgusting, misogynistic, gossip-peddling rag.

It's hugely disrespectful to try and titillate readers with a photo of a murdered young woman in a bikini. But I agree with PP that the Hillsborough front page was by far and away their lowest point. Actually there's a common theme here isn't there - disrespecting the dead. And people continually buy this shit.

Nancy66 Fri 15-Feb-13 10:43:36

she was a lingerie/bikini model.

If she was a teacher or nurse you might have a point.

kim147 Fri 15-Feb-13 10:45:42

People probably buy it because it's cheap, easy to read, covers the stories that affect them and has offers they can afford.

The reading age of the Sun is 8. Apparently the average reading age of the UK is 9.

www.see-a-voice.org/marketing-ad/effective-communication/readability/

Do men buy it because it also has a lot of pictures of women wearing hardly any clothes? I saw a copy in a take away and counted 11 pictures.

FannyFifer Fri 15-Feb-13 10:46:58

She was actually a Law graduate and a domestic abuse campaigner.

Nancy66 Fri 15-Feb-13 10:47:33

The Sun doesn't have a reading age of 8 - it's a made up urban myth.

They also didn't do a countdown to Charlotte Church's 16th birthday before someone spouts that

kim147 Fri 15-Feb-13 10:50:41

Maybe not 8 - but it's accessible to a lot of the population. Simple to read, basic headlines and interesting stories.

FreudiansSlipper Fri 15-Feb-13 10:51:01

what did they do go through the hundreds of pictures and find the sexiest one hmm

Of course it is wrong the whole attitude of the sun is wrong but today they have sunk very low

Undertone Fri 15-Feb-13 11:04:08

I know she's an underwear model and that she was kind of expected to have her kit of in MOST photos she's in... but come on. Totally gratuitous, disrespectful - they used that image so that people would go "phwoar". She's been MURDERED! FFS

ComposHat Fri 15-Feb-13 11:11:23

don't you see? this is why we can't have statutory press regulation. A government watchdog might surpress vital investigative journalism like this. I don't want to live in a country where white van men can't want over a picture of a murder victim. it would be worse than North Korea.

Rhiannon86 Fri 15-Feb-13 11:13:51

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TranceDaemon Fri 15-Feb-13 11:39:19

Nothing new for The Scum to be scraping the barrell, bunch of misogynistic bottom feeders that they are.

<spit>

Pigsmummy Fri 15-Feb-13 12:32:53

The Sun tabloid newspaper is horrible and thrives on making money at others expense. However as much as I hate to defend it I can't see anything wrong with using photos from a professional photo shoot &#373;hen she was a professional model. If she was in another profession, i.e nursing then there most likely would be a picture in her nurses uniform? She did specialise in underwear and swimming shoots so the vast majority of images are her scantily glad, She was a stunning woman and the story is very sad.

Nancy66 Fri 15-Feb-13 12:39:05

ALL businesses thrive on making money at the expense of others...

Pigsmummy Fri 15-Feb-13 12:39:27

Google her and the vast majority of images are modellings shots in tiny dresses, bikinis, under wear etc so I am sure that she was expecting that in her death those images would be used, as they were in life?

I think halesball says all that I think re: The Suns all time low.

IMO (and no offence meant to any Sun readers here) but its just one big continual low. I wouldn't wipe my arse with that newspaper.

12ylnon Fri 15-Feb-13 13:46:01

I saw this thread earlier and then saw the front cover of the Sun later. I was quite shocked by it- who the hell thought that would be ok!? It's not like it's just a shot of her in a bikini (which i suppose might be ok, that was her job after all) but she's looking very seductive and undoing her bikini. There are plenty of lovely photos of her- why not just use one of those?

kim147 Fri 15-Feb-13 13:51:18

How many people buy it for the story -or just because there's a picture of an attractive model on the front and don't even register the story.

Sex sells. Pictures of women on the front of papers sell. Especially if they're not wearing much.

It's a misogynistic world out there.

Sunnywithshowers Fri 15-Feb-13 13:53:36

YANBU

I wouldn't wipe my arse with the Sun.

StuntGirl Fri 15-Feb-13 14:13:17

There's in interesting article in The Guardian about it.

There's also a backlash on Twitter complaining about The Sun's frontpage too, using #HerNameWasReevaSteenkamp.

I like that guardian article.

I think those of you referring to Hilsborough are, of course, correct. I don't have a very high opinion of the sun or it's readers but I thought today's front page was particularly sinister.

Cat98 Fri 15-Feb-13 17:16:12

yanbu. Apopleptic with rage here, can't even read thread!

LittleEdie Fri 15-Feb-13 17:18:07

YANBU

BelindaCarlisle Fri 15-Feb-13 17:18:22

i dont see why, she was an underwear model. She sold pictures where she thought she looked good.
that was her job.

I dont defend the sun but its MORE an indicator of where women are in society wrt being appendages of men than anything else.

BelindaCarlisle Fri 15-Feb-13 17:18:55

if you said to her " are you ashamed of those pictures?" a week a go, she would say no.

StuntGirl Fri 15-Feb-13 17:20:32

"Doubtless they'll claim they used these pictures because modelling was one of Steenkamp's jobs – and the next time they illustrate a story about a murdered hairdresser with pictures of her cutting hair, or a murdered student working in the college library, we can treat that justification with something other than a tired: "Bull. Shit." In this age, many female victims' social media imprint would yield an image of them at their place of work, and you should totally, totally expect news outlets to use it if the choice comes down to that or a beach snap of them scantily clad."

^This is why. (Taken from Guardian link).

BelindaCarlisle Fri 15-Feb-13 17:22:25

no BUT if they have a picture of themselves dolled up on a night out on facebook they would use that.

I find it highly ironic that shagger John Prestcott has suddenely discovered his feminist side on this

Remotecontrolduck Fri 15-Feb-13 17:27:00

She might have been a law graduate, but her job was a lingerie/bikini model as far as i'm aware so it's not totally out of line (though I'd rather they used a fully clothed shot admittedly)

It is The Sun, you can't expect reasonable levels of taste and decency from them unfortunately.

BelindaCarlisle Fri 15-Feb-13 17:30:29

I hate the fact that a woman who is a law graduate " feels the need" ( or whatever) to be in a wank mag like FHM- that is far more pervasive in society than a shit newspaper behaving in a shit way

StuntGirl Fri 15-Feb-13 17:33:41

Well exactly Belinda. It will always be the 'sexiest' picture they can find that they use. Sex sells, and idiots buy it.

SageBush Fri 15-Feb-13 17:42:05

But, BelindaCarlisle, women are still too often viewed as appendages of men precisely because of these sorts of portrayals of women in the media - it's all part of the same thing.

Everything about the front page sensationalised her murder, and trivialised and eroticised violence against women - it looked like it was going to be some sort of story about a "saucy romp", not about the horrific murder of a woman. There was no sympathy for Reeva Steenkamp - she wasn't even named on the front page, but was portrayed as an object to be leered at.

For those who are appalled and wish to protest, there's a petition, asking for The Sun to apologise - here

Also, some women's groups are urging people to complain to the PCC too - see here for example.

FutTheShuckUp Fri 15-Feb-13 17:48:35

I totally agree Belinda.
And its a bit odd I think that people are saying because she's been murdered she shouldn't be shown in this way as some sort of mark of respect- yet she didnt mind being seen as a sex object to be leered over when alive.

StuntGirl Fri 15-Feb-13 17:55:45

Because on the day of One Billion Rising, The Sun has chosen to cover a story of a murdered woman tinged with possible domestic violence by plastering it's front page in her scantily clad body, simply to sell more copies. They didn't even consider her worthy of printing her name on the front page story about her own murder.

notnagging Fri 15-Feb-13 17:57:12

Yanbu I totally agree. I saw it today & thought it was the daily star until I realised it was about OP

Lessthanaballpark Fri 15-Feb-13 22:51:25

OP, I'm so glad I'm not crazy. I saw it this morning and felt physically sick. I don't care if it was her job, they had lots of pictures of her yet they chose that one. Let's not be naive - they put it on there not to represent her at her job but to titillate. They were hoping their readers would get their rocks off over the almost naked body of a women who has just been murdered FFS.

In the Morning Star the front cover was ironically about the One Billion Rising protests against violence against women.

theisleofsheppey Fri 15-Feb-13 23:27:22

yanbu

with this and page 3 i would like to see a massive backlash against the sun

see their abc drop, and their adevrtising revenue drop

so disrespectful

5madthings Fri 15-Feb-13 23:37:49

Yanbu and this was discussed on radio 5this evening, vile man saying it doesn't matter as she isn't alive to complain...

Lessthanaballpark Fri 15-Feb-13 23:39:29

I think the message the Sun is sending out is "She's dead, but we can still stare at her tits."

Rosyisgonnabeamummy Fri 15-Feb-13 23:50:11

Controversial I know but if I was that sexy I would have my obituary pic of me in bikini.
wink

FayCorgasm Fri 15-Feb-13 23:59:15

They have to target their readership and that demographic is typically horny aging builders who want to see some tits! They will print whatever it takes to sell the paper. You're right - that are lower than low but their readership defines the parameters of that standard.

Startail Sat 16-Feb-13 00:05:07

The daily fail have a worse one of her posing pulling the string on a tie sided bikini, pure soft porn.

It's just on an inside pg., not the cover.

Darkesteyes Sat 16-Feb-13 00:07:31

Bastards. For doing this and for Hillsborough. I wouldnt line my cats litter tray with it. The Sun is not good enough to grace her arse. Anyone yet seen the front cover of tomorrows Times?

Startail Sat 16-Feb-13 00:11:37
Darkesteyes Sat 16-Feb-13 00:12:23
theisleofsheppey Sat 16-Feb-13 00:14:16

Rosyisgonnabeamummy

grin hmm

Startail Sat 16-Feb-13 00:14:57
StuntGirl Sat 16-Feb-13 00:22:25

Oh god darkesteyes that's fucking horrible. Innocent until proven guilty I know, but perhaps the papers could save their sympathy for, y'know, the victim.

Post that headline if he's found innocent, by all means. But christ sad

5madthings Sat 16-Feb-13 00:28:09

I just retweeted the link by dark saying "and what about the anguish of Reevas family?!"

superstarheartbreaker Sat 16-Feb-13 00:48:57

TBH if she chose to make money from the pics then thst is HER choice and she should not be judged for it because lets face it folks; she could. She was stunning. What is shite is that the sun implies that her death is more of a loss because she had a good rack etc. Shocking story and very sad.

superstarheartbreaker Sat 16-Feb-13 00:50:37

And I guess as she wouldn't have had a choice about the pics being published due to her being dead and all then the sun is a bunch of scum.

Darkesteyes Sat 16-Feb-13 00:51:19

exactly 5mad. I agree. Sport and celebrity seem to be seen as more important than a young woman who has lost her life and her grieving family and friends. i despair ffs.

StuntGirl Sat 16-Feb-13 00:53:31

I don't think anyone's judged her for posing for the photographs? They've judged The Sun for choosing to use them under these circumstances though...

5madthings Sat 16-Feb-13 00:59:07

I know dark its bloody depressing. I kust looked at op's fb page, the amount of support and victim blaming is horrid.

Darkesteyes Sat 16-Feb-13 01:06:35

I had a nasty feeling it would be like that on fb 5mad. I have avoided it today and nearly deactivated my account a few weeks back because of some class prejudice shown by some former acquaintances. fb seems to be a place for spouting all kinds of hate.,prejudice,sexism and mysogyny.

StuntGirl Sat 16-Feb-13 01:08:38

Seriously, we're blaming murder victims now?? What, did she 'have it coming to her' or something? God this shit depresses me.

5madthings Sat 16-Feb-13 01:09:03

Tbf there are people saying its wrong eyc as well but he has a lot of support. Vile jokes as well.

5madthings Sat 16-Feb-13 01:10:49

Yes stunt she must have 'asked for it' or been shagging about so its ok he got mad and shot her... angry

StuntGirl Sat 16-Feb-13 01:12:34

Are you angry at me or the fb page? Because I didn't say I thought that..

5madthings Sat 16-Feb-13 01:14:20

At fb not you!

McNewPants2013 Sat 16-Feb-13 01:17:35

I don't see nothing wrong with the picture used, she made the choice while alive to do bikini modelling and I think that we should respect her choice to do so.

I do ask mysf would she have picked this picture or would she have preferred something else

McNewPants2013 Sat 16-Feb-13 01:18:09

Myself

StuntGirl Sat 16-Feb-13 01:19:31

Oh ok. Just checking grin

Sad that some people are actually saying that sad Like anything she ever did could deserve being murdered. What's wrong with people? She could have tap danced on his nuts and it wouldn't have deserved this sad

StuntGirl Sat 16-Feb-13 01:21:01

I respect her choice McNew, I just wish the media would respect her death.

5madthings Sat 16-Feb-13 01:23:46

Its depressing as fuck. Makes me wonder what type of society i am raising my children in... Sleeping toddler in bed with me.

Maybe reeva wouldnt have minded but surely its best to err on the side of caution and show some respect to a dead woman and her grieving family?!!

McNewPants2013 Sat 16-Feb-13 01:25:25

Respect is difficult.

Because it can be discussed that people respected her choice of career and in her death used a picture that respected her choice to do so.

BumBiscuits Sat 16-Feb-13 01:31:39

She was stunning. Her natural pictures show her beauty even more than the work shots. It shows that anyone can fall prey to DV. Her family must be devastated at losing their girl.

Growlithe Sat 16-Feb-13 01:35:45

It's typical of The Sun. When they accused the Liverpool fans of pissing on the bodies of their fellow supporters as they died, they may as well have pissed on their bodies themselves. And now they are wanking over this woman's body.

Don't buy The Sun. Don't click on links to it online. Don't collect it's tokens for a cheap holiday. Because it is a vile rag and you are worth more than it.

StoicButStressed Sat 16-Feb-13 11:41:07

YANBU. Think it was vile act by The Sun; and they very def did not pick that photograph of her as a mark of respect to choose to - amongst many other things in her life - work as a model. They used her being slaughtered as a reason to whack a full page bikini shot to fill their front page. Can only hope the fact so many people ARE pissed off may mean it helps as a tipping point in other Sun 'content'.

Cannot imagine her family's grief, thoughts are with them.

FoofFighter Sat 16-Feb-13 11:43:35

No, I wouldn't say that was an all time low from the Scum at all.

Printing that Liverpool fans pissed on and robbed dead/dying Liverpool supporters at Hillsborough?... now that was low angry

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