to want to apologise to my son

(67 Posts)
WTFisWrongWithMe Tue 12-Feb-13 11:12:18

I have nc because I'm ashamed.

My lovely lovely 8YO DS who is an absolutely delightful bright happy kind and sensitive boy is ever so slightly clumsy. He drops things and spills liquids, not on purpose. I am an impatient person and it takes a lot of conscious effort for me not to get angry when this happens.

This morning I put a glass of milk in front of him and kind of joked 'be extra careful not to spill it'; as I reached the sink he was already behind me grabbing a cloth. Not a word said. I turn around and followed him to the table to see the milk spilled all over the table.

I lost it. Oh my god how I lost it. I went on and on about I expected better of him as he wasn't a 2 year old anymore. I was purely and simply NASTY and even though I knew it at the time, I just couldn't stop. I went on for about 2 minutes, just throwing vitriol at him and being disproportionately angry. I told him he wouldn't get his computer time that day as punishment because I had had enough.

I am so sad I did that to him and so ashamed I haven't stopped crying all morning. I really couldn't wish for a better son so why do I treat him like this?? I was vile, really vile. I wasn't physical except I did shove him out of my way and snatched the cloth off his hands to wipe the milk myself.

He apologised very sincerely. About 20 minutes later I apologised to him and I said that my reaction was ridiculous and that I shouldn't have spoken to him the way I did. I told him of course he wasn't punished and he would get his computer time because he had done nothing wrong. He just said 'it's okay mummy'.

But I know it's not okay. It's over now and I did apologise but I feel so awful that this could be one of his memories of me when he grows up. I just wish I could erase it but I can't.

Do you react like this sometimes or is it just me?

I want to write a short card of apology to him so that he knows I'm truly sorry and that he did nothing wrong. Is this a good idea you think?

pictish Tue 12-Feb-13 11:14:29

You have apologised already. I think he understand that you are sorry.

I have lost it over trivia once or twice in my time. I sympathise. You dealt with it very well.

Love to you xxx

language Tue 12-Feb-13 11:14:55

Parents are only human, don't be too harsh on yourself. Of course, we all try not to loose our temper, but it's hard at times. If I were you, I wouldn't write a card, I would not mention the incident in the future and just try to be more calm next time.

MrsKeithRichards Tue 12-Feb-13 11:16:51

Draw a line under it.

I have an infurinatingly clumsy son as well, it really is trying! Sometimes the words aren't out of my mouth yet and it's spilt. He's now under OT care and in the process of being assessed for DCD.

So I feel mega bad about the times I've had a go at him for things like this!

You've apologised, you're allowed to lose it sometimes, you didn't hurt him, you acknowledge your reaction was over the top and you sound like this is totally out of character for you and not your normal reaction.

It happens.

I don't think the card is a good idea to be honest, you are the parent after all and you do need to step in and tell them off. Sure, you could have done it in a different way but please, stop fretting! I bet he won't even remember after lunch!

And have pancakes for tea.

msnaughty Tue 12-Feb-13 11:37:02

i think a lot of parents have done the same at some point. i don't think it was just about the split milk i guess its the build up of things... I done same thing with my 5 year old as he knows how to talk and use his voice but he just crys instead of asking for things drives me mad i went mad last night kept lecturing him and telling him how stupid the behavior was i just went on and on at him. i don't think he even understood what i was going on about.... Anyway chin up we have all done it at some point...

milbracat Tue 12-Feb-13 11:39:12

OP, I think writing a card is a bit OTT given that you have already apologised and. The situation is literally crying over spilt milk smile and I don't see the point in making a protracted issue about it. I think you need to put it behind you and move on.

We all do things we later regret. Our DS has always been closer to DH. When he was 4, we were waving DH off to work and taking DD to school, DS was playing up. I told him something like "Behave yourself, or daddy won't come home!" Well, daddy did come home. He had heard what I said, turned around, went straight to DS, gave him a hug and told him that he will always be there for him and the family. "Now be good and I'll look forward to hearing about your day when I get back". DH then told me off for saying what I did, said another goodbye and went back to the car.

It has not caused any long term harm between us but kids are affected by parental emotions and if every spillage and accident is going to cause distress and be such an issue, he may well be scared to try things for fear of the consequences.

momb Tue 12-Feb-13 11:39:28

You behaved badly and apologised.
Draw a line under it. I honestly think it does children no harm to realise that their parents are fallible too. You did the right thing by apologising straight away and that shoudl be the end of it.

WTFisWrongWithMe Tue 12-Feb-13 11:40:16

Thank you. I think I'll go buy some pancakes now...

MrsKeithRichards Tue 12-Feb-13 11:42:30

You can buy pancakes?!

YANBU - I so feel your pain.

I was a bit harsh with my DS today...he is 10 and still has me up in the night like a baby....I am sick of it, I am tired, he is tired, DH is tired! I took the plug off the x box today so he cant go on it till he sleeps all night.

I feel bad now and hate the thought that he is at school and sad!! He went off today looking like he had the weight of the world on his shoulders.

Kids .......try the patience of a saint!

You've apologised so move on. Your son sounds like my 6y/o and your reaction is the same as mine would sometimes be.

I think we need to take some deep breaths and remember they are only little still. Accidents do happen.

Do something fun together if you can tonight. smile

puds11isNAUGHTYnotNAICE Tue 12-Feb-13 11:43:41

I'm very clumsy and spill and break things ALL the time.

However, I do get annoyed if my DD spills milk. I hate milk being spilt, I think its the one thing I would shout at anyone for.

You said sorry, don't be too harsh on yourself.

HecateWhoopass Tue 12-Feb-13 11:44:41

Why did you react that way?

If you can really understand why you blew - you will be able to address whatever it is that led to it, so that it doesn't happen again.

Is it just that you are an impatient person and it annoys you? Do you blow at other people? Is it something you feel you should work on? How would you go about that? Or is there something else going on as well? Another problem or worry or stress that is weighing you down?

valiumredhead Tue 12-Feb-13 11:45:29

You have apologised.

Deep breaths and carry on.

If it's any comfort ds is 11 and I have banned drinks from the front room unless they are in a sports bottle!

IneedAsockamnesty Tue 12-Feb-13 11:47:41

You have apologised if you grovel and keep on apologising you make it into a bigger deal than it is.

Just don't do it again,find a strategy of not letting spilled food/drinks winding you up

DaveMccave Tue 12-Feb-13 11:48:26

Oh god I overreact alllll the time! I also use te 'you're not a 2 year old' line a lot. I often apologise though when is realised, and I think it's a good lesson for them, nobody is perfect, not even adults, but we can still admit it and apologise. And even accidents piss people off!

valiumredhead Tue 12-Feb-13 11:51:20

BTW if you poured him milk in those plastic Ikea cups then I'm afraid YWBU - my goodness it was a happy day in our house when I chucked them out, they go over SO easily!

You've apologised so I would forgive yourself now. Its not a bad thing if children see adults make mistakes and then apologise and sort things out.

Two things struck me
Don't say "be careful not to spill..." because you have immediately planted the idea of spilling the milk in his head.

Secondly, if he is generally clumsy have you had him checked by an Occupational Therapist. DS1 was clumsy, tripped over a fair bit, not very coordinated etc. We took him to an OT and it really helped she gave him a variety of exercises which really improved his coordination, handwriting and general fidgetiness.

Illgetmegoat Tue 12-Feb-13 12:04:14

Poor both of you - rough morning.
Firstly - I think it has happened to all parents, something we are ashamed of and wish we hadn't done. I am a kind of parent that believes in apologies & doesn't hold to the not losing face philosophy. I think when these things happen they teach us & hopefully stop us doing it again.

Secondly - one of my parents was frequently nasty. Very nasty. But then I would get very over the top apologies and long monologues about them being a terrible xyz etc. However it was never enough to stop the awful hurtful behavior. So round we went hurting/apologising and it was rough - sorry means nothing when it is used as 'sorry I did something that makes me feel bad about myself, I want to ease my conscience'. I'm not at all saying this is you, at all, just my experience. I feel it is important to make a sincere apology that means - I should not have done this, it made you feel bad and I will do my absolute best to stop it happening again- obv not saying that to a little boy but having that cemented in your head.
I agree with Hecate too - work out why and work on that for yourself, draw a line with your DS and even if you don't feel it try to act as if it is all forgotten and forgiven and he need not be scared/worried about an accident next time while you carry on gently reminding him to take care, concentrate etc - work off the same sheet - we try hard, we don't punish for accidents but we try even harder to make sure they don't happen again, we are kind when we know we are doing our best (pretty much the mantra in this house atm me with kids, Dh with me, me with him - dogs with everybody!)
Enjoy a lovely pancake tea - have silly fun and you will do more good than another apology will ever do.

BuiltForComfort Tue 12-Feb-13 12:15:31

Can I make a suggestion? When you give him a drink, do NOT say to him "don't spill it". DO say to him - "I would like you to be careful with your drink. Look where it is on the table and make sure to put it back in the same place so it stays upright." He then has a positive instruction to keep his drink safe, rather than a negative one to not spill. I'm sure he's not doing it deliberately but try to help him think about where to put his drink, where his hands or arms are, to look at the table when he picks the drink up and puts it down. Rather than "don't spill" which is a more difficult instruction to follow.

Re losing it, I feel your pain, I've done that more than once, the totally unnecessary over the top rant. It's horrid but you've said sorry and you need to move on, by helping him with how to become more careful.

TheNebulousBoojum Tue 12-Feb-13 12:18:57

Apologise with words, a hug and food.
I do it all the time, mine respond much better to a low-key acknowledgement that you lost the plot. He'll remember the shout for a while, the pancakes for longer.
OTOH, if he's clumsy, like my DS, think about a bit of adaptation. Mine has a mug with a wide, heavy base to drink from. If you know you get stressed about things, try and look ahead and see what you can do to circumnavigate it.

Maryz Tue 12-Feb-13 12:23:39

I agree it would be worth trying to work out why you reacted as you did. You can't do anything about it now, but you can stop it happening again.

Was it the final straw? Is there something wrong that you should be dealing with? Are you angry at someone or something else?

I think apologising to children when we fuck up is a good thing. It is important for them to realise that we are human, we make mistakes, and when we do we apologise and then we all move on.

SocialClimber Tue 12-Feb-13 12:28:42

I've done this too. Lost it when she's done something relatively minor, when she is the loveliest and most thoughtful girl I know. It is especially bad if they've gone off to school and you're left to feel terrible for the rest of the day. So much easier if they're at home and you can cuddle them when the guilt gets too much. These are rare moments, and the fact you feel so bad about it shows you're not some monster.

On the one hand, I am my child's parent, not their friend, so I am there to tell them off at times. But, I don't believe the opinion that parents shouldn't apologise at times, like they never do anything wrong. I apologise to my daughter, for instance she told me the answer to a homework question, and I told her she was wrong, quite emphatically! She then went on to explain why I was wrong. blush I apologised, and I did it sincerely. I have apologised if I've gone over the top when telling her off, too. Not every time, because children have to be told off on occasion, but for the times when we know our behaviour is awful.

You'll feel better when he comes home and you can give him a cuddle. Don't apologise again or write the letter though, it's done now and making a big deal will make things worse, he's probably already forgotten about it!

Then flip some pancakes and all will be forgotten.

Tryharder Tue 12-Feb-13 12:30:33

Look, I've done this too. I'm sure he''s forgotten about it already. Don't beat yourself up over it.

WTFisWrongWithMe Tue 12-Feb-13 12:32:37

Thank you everyone for your kind words and for trying to make me analyse my reaction. I have been doing this. I guess I sometimes react like this because I'm impatient by nature but also I think there's some sort of resentment in that I find I'm always cleaning after someone. I feel I also expect too much of my DS because he's generally so mature, his behaviour has always been fantastic, he has never in his life has had a tantrum... I seem to expect and demand more and more. My lovely DH is also a little clumsy. If I think about it, it is a very endearing trait on a lovely kind ambitious and successful man. When when he is actually clumsy though, all I can think about is the fact that I'll have to clean it. Yes, of course he'll clean his own mess, but without exception he won't notice the splashes in other areas. I am so anal that I do.

jkklpu Tue 12-Feb-13 12:34:10

Why don't you make pancakes at home and ask him to help, including by pouring in the milk and mixing the batter?

mrsjay Tue 12-Feb-13 12:35:02

your son has a loving mum who was cross and frustrated we have all done this at some point or we will do it , you apologised for it and it is ok to be a litte frustrated at time you son will not be scarred by this honestly he wont be

SocialClimber Tue 12-Feb-13 12:36:04

YABU at buying pancakes though. Sacrilege.

AvonCallingBarksdale Tue 12-Feb-13 12:37:32

OP, does my 8yo DS actually live in your house in a parallel universe?! And are you, in actual fact, actually me??! You've done the right thing in apologising to your DS - think it's good for them to see that parents F up sometimes. Make him some lovely pancakes tonight and have a big cuddle smile

WTFisWrongWithMe Tue 12-Feb-13 12:40:30

Okay about the pancakes. About a month ago we got an induction cooker and I'm not getting on with it AT ALL. I think experimenting with pancakes is a bad idea, so I have bought them. In my defense, they're chocolate filled pancakes from M&S. My DS will be delighted smile.

Maryz Tue 12-Feb-13 12:42:09

Now you are being very unreasonable shock.

Ready made pancakes?

Pancakes with chocolate?

What is the world coming to?

mrsjay Tue 12-Feb-13 12:42:23

they're chocolate filled pancakes from M&S. My DS will be delighted

you get chocoate filled pancakes grin

I want ready made pancakes. I am an awful tosser grin

SocialClimber Tue 12-Feb-13 12:44:04

Haha, let you off then. Induction cookers take an age to get used to.

Now I want chocolate filled pancakes...

Pandemoniaa Tue 12-Feb-13 12:45:48

You sound like a lovely, caring parent who just had one of those "ffs!" moments and you've already apologised to your ds for going over the top this morning. He won't be psychologically scarred precisely because he knows that you love him by your reaction to what happened this morning. I don't think you need to compensate by more than your apology either.

I know how frustrating it is to have a rather clumsy child too. ds2 could be relied upon to spill things or have other, seemingly avoidable incidents. I used to take extra care to give him heavier mugs and not tall, flimsy glasses but every now and again I'd just think "why, ffs, why?" when I watched his elbows dip into his dinner plate yet again. He coped remarkably well though (he's not a clumsy adult as it happens) and recognised his own limitations with certain things so would just say "I would pass the gravy, Grandad but I'm not very reliable with it?"!

nickelbabe Tue 12-Feb-13 12:45:59

I know this thread is about how you lost your temper, but if he's always clumsy like that, might it be possible he has dyspraxia?

valiumredhead Tue 12-Feb-13 12:46:02

Induction cookers are FAB but you need to keep them very very low. Once you are used to them you will never want anything else. I cooked on my dad's gas hob last month and it felt pre historic grin

WTFisWrongWithMe Tue 12-Feb-13 12:47:08

I have already ruined the wok and two frying pans. It's costing me a fortune this cooker. It was my DH's idea and I was lured by how easy it would be to clean it wink. Nightmare to cook with it though...

valiumredhead Tue 12-Feb-13 12:48:10

Are you using the right saucepans? We had to replace all of ours initially as they wouldn't work.

mrsjay Tue 12-Feb-13 12:49:18

might it be possible he has dyspraxia?

^ ^ this is what I thought it could have been my dd at 8 and I used to shout at her for it blush

mrsjay Tue 12-Feb-13 12:49:36

oh and what are induction cookers then?

EssexGurl Tue 12-Feb-13 12:49:41

I was a bit like that with my 7yo yesterday morning. I did apologise at the time. But I also had a big chat with him last night to say sorry again and explain why I was upset with him. Normal stuff but also, DH away on business so was up at 5.30 when he left and couldn't get back to sleep. DS deliberately disobeyed me and it was really the final straw when it was snowing and trying to get 2 kids ready.

I think we all do it but I felt better for saying sorry again last night and having a "grown up" chat with him.

Yy to proper working pans that are suited to induction and fit over the hob itself, I learnt how to cook again when I got new induction pans!

Thumbwitch Tue 12-Feb-13 12:50:52

I would second Builtfor's suggestion.

If you say to someone, "Don't do X" the first thing they have to do is work out what X is before they can then not do it, by which time chances are they've set themselves up to do X.

So yes, find another way to ask him to be careful, that involves only positive phrasing (I'm not talking about Pollyanna language, just avoid using the word "Don't") "Please be careful with this cup" "Keep this upright and safe" "keep the table dry" etc. etc.

And forgive yourself but learn at the same time that it is something to avoid a repeat performance of - I get horribly frustrated with DS1 as well sometimes but try so so hard to keep a lid on it and always blame the behaviour, not the person.

crashdoll Tue 12-Feb-13 12:52:01

You lost it, then apologised. It happens. Stop beating yourself up over it. smile He sounds like a lovely boy and you sound like a lovely mum. Enjoy your chocolate pancakes!

miemohrs Tue 12-Feb-13 12:52:38

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

WTFisWrongWithMe Tue 12-Feb-13 12:55:25

nickelbabe. I think he is just a little clumsy like his dad really, no more to it than that. If I read about dyspraxia, sure he ticks some of the boxes, he's not particularly sporty, he's very slow at getting dressed and he can be very disorganised, just like his dad. However, he's a little math genious, excellent at writing amazing stories with really good handwriting and he is top of the class on everything. He learned to read by himself at age 3. He's not a natural sportsman but learned to ride his bike without stabilisers before he turned 4, so he can be balanced and co-ordinated. His artwork looks like it has been performed by a 4 year old and he cannot create anything with clay or plasticine. I'm no longer worried about that.

WTFisWrongWithMe Tue 12-Feb-13 12:58:55

What is an OT?

Thumbwitch Tue 12-Feb-13 13:00:05

OT = occupational therapist

tempnameswap Tue 12-Feb-13 13:00:16

I have been like this OP and, as lost of posters have said, you are only human and you have apologised. It is infuriating as it seems like they are just being careless and you are overstretched without having to clear up spilled stuff all the time.

I would draw a line under it - for children, overly emotional apologies can be worse than the shouting - try and have a fun pancake evening and take a deeper breath next time. You are not inherently evil in any way, just probably a bit tired and fed up!

WTF

Is he fidgety or sensitive to clothes / shoes rubbing? Can he pick up small things like little bits of lego, beads and the like or does he struggle?

EllieArroway Tue 12-Feb-13 13:06:10

These moments (and we all have them) are hard. The guilt we feel is crippling. I lost it like that a few times when my DS was growing up for similarly trivial reasons. If it's any consolation, mine is a happy, healthy, well-adjusted 16 year old now & we are really, really close.

Your DS will learn that life is not always a bed of roses, and people - even those we love the most - sometimes don't behave as well as they should. But he's also learned that mummy loves him enough to say sorry & give him a cuddle when she knows she's been wrong. This will mean more to him than you realise.

WTFisWrongWithMe Tue 12-Feb-13 13:09:08

He is sensitive to clothes because he has eczema but I wouldn't say he's fidgety at all. He is very good at lego, can build very sophisticated structures following the instructions.

CailinDana Tue 12-Feb-13 13:12:42

I was clumsy as a child and my mother's voice still rings in my ears all the time. I find myself fumbling and getting panicky when I do something because in the back of my mind I'm waiting for her to tut or take over. The thing is, as I got older I got less clumsy but I did have normal accidents and yet the family story was still that I was "clumsy like Aunt X" and it drove me absolutely nuts. We used to get our milk delivered in glass bottles and I remember bringing a bottle in one wet day and dropping it on the floor where it smashed. Bearing in mind that the bottle was very wet, it was something that could have happened to anybody, it wasn't because I was clumsy. I broke down and cried and cried - I just couldn't face the inevitable minute-long telling off from my mother for something that I didn't do deliberately. In the end when she did see what happened and saw how upset I was she just let it go. I was so relieved.

From the point of view of clumsy child I would say DO NOT make any reference to not spilling a drink, or keeping it upright or anything like that. Your son knows he shouldn't spill the drink FFS! Reminding him not to spill is just drawing attention again and again and again to his clumsiness and chances are it's making him even more clumsy out of nerves. Don't say anything. Just hand it to him. Being clumsy isn't deliberate, and reminding someone isn't going to stop an accident. You need to work on accepting that this is just him and he will inevitably drop things and spill things, but at his age he should be able to clean up after himself. Don't react at all if he does spill (apart from maybe helping him) because there's just no point, you're not going to teach him anything other than that he's a pain in the arse for being the way he is (which is how I always felt). His spills are his business, he's not doing it to annoy you or be naughty so just don't get involved.

WTFisWrongWithMe Tue 12-Feb-13 13:13:38

valiumredhead if you're still here, would you recommend me a set of pans and frying pans, and a wok if possible please. Thank you.

WTFisWrongWithMe Tue 12-Feb-13 13:15:40

Thank you everyone for all your comments, I will read this thread again and again. It's help me a great deal. I can't wait to collect my DS from school!!

WTF
The reason I asked about the lego was if he struggles to pick up the small pieces then he might have issues with his fine motor control i.e. the small fiddly controlled movements necessary for handwriting, model making, picking up glasses of milk wink.

The fidgety question related to retained reflexes, some children don't lose all of their early reflexes that they had as a baby that should disappear as they get older and that can make them clumsy and fidgety.

One other thought, he doesn't have any eyesight problems does he? DS2 is a lot less clumsy since he got glasses.

p.s. Once when I lost it and got very shouty with my two so they sent me to sit on the step for 5mins to calm down (as I would have done to them if they were being equally stroppy). I did it.

valiumredhead Tue 12-Feb-13 13:18:47

Yes, we bought STELLAR pans which are amazing - we paid just over £100 for a big set on line which included a steamer and stock pot and gravy jug - if you just wanted a basic set you could easily get it down cheaper. We bought online as the discount was massive. My MIL has had Stellar pans and they last years and years. I will try and remember where I ordered them from and PM you if I remember smile

WTFisWrongWithMe Tue 12-Feb-13 13:20:58

Chazs, see he's great with lego and handwriting, not so much with model making and picking up glasses of milk wink.

We have a little card on the fridge that says 'treat others as you'd like to be treated'. Sometimes my DC point at at when I'm not being particularly pleasant. Today they didn't dare though...

WTFisWrongWithMe Tue 12-Feb-13 13:22:09

valiumredhead thank you, I'll look those up, and perhaps also read the instruction booklet that came with the cooker.

valiumredhead Tue 12-Feb-13 13:26:17

I've just had a look through my saved bookmarks and can't find where we ordered them from but just had a google and there's some pretty good deals out there. Will ask dh if he remembers when he gets home.

OxfordBags Tue 12-Feb-13 13:46:41

OP, if you were a rubbish mother, you wouldn't be worrying about how you behaved. You lost your temper and weren't pleasant, no, but you did teach him a positive lesson - that if you get angry and are mean to someone, you should be big enough to acknowledge your mistake and to apologise sincerely. Everyone makes mistakes and everyone loses their temper, and not many people will apologise or make amends.

But YABU for telling us about M&S chocolate-filled pancakes, you evil witch!

gymmummy64 Tue 12-Feb-13 13:53:33

If my DDs have done something awful and are terribly upset, writing me notes etc, I generally tell them that being really genuinely sorry means thinking twice before doing it again another time. ie learning from it and making a conscious decision to act differently when a similar set of circumstances come up. Otherwise it's just words.

Perhaps the most valuable thing you can do if you are truly sorry is work out how not to react the same way next time and how you will stop yourself getting angry.

Much much easier said than done of course!

aldiwhore Tue 12-Feb-13 14:00:50

Been there done that it hurts like hell.

You son will probably remember that there's only so many times you can spill something before you annoy someone, my DS is EXTRA careful these days, accidents still happen, so I've taught him exactlyt how to clean up after himself (rather than him trying to sort it with loo roll).

You son will remember that everyone has a limit and sometimes people get cross. He will, you will. Guess what you're human. Knowing you're human isn't a BAD lesson!

Your son will remember your apology. THAT is a good thing.

A sincere apology is still just words. A straight "sorry" doesn't cut it with any of us, when we apologise we say what we're sorry fo, why we're sorry and how we going to try and avoid the situation in future. But bless him, my son, like me is a clutz. I am always truly sorry for breaking things, I am always trying not to, I am prepared to dig deep a replace things often... and I never touch something that isn't mine and is valuable (urns, jewellry, naice glasses - I always ask for a beaker not a posh glass, and children) because I wouldn't want to upset anyone!

milbracat Tue 12-Feb-13 14:06:00

M&S chocolate-filled pancakes
Tut Tut! grin Isn't the whole point of Shrove Tuesday is to use up the fatty foods before the austerity of Lent? (so I've read)

For those that DO make their own - why is the first one always a dud?

Getting back to topic; OP, you say your DS is not sporty, but is he doing enough physical activity to develop his spatial awareness and coordination? The fact that he was grabbing a cloth to at least help clean the mess up is reassuring that he is considerate and care around glasses of liquid will surely come with time.

Maryz Tue 12-Feb-13 14:28:18

It's something to do with ^priming" the frying pan, apparently milbracat hmm. I must find out, because it really pisses me off, every year.

Astelia Tue 12-Feb-13 14:59:52

My two used anywayup beakers for years and years, saved a lot of grief. Children's plastic beakers have a high centre of gravity so aren't very stable IME.

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