to feel somebody tried to murder us?

(97 Posts)
SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 19:57:59

by slashing my car tyre?

I did not notice for about four miles down tbe road.

Bugger!

That's not good.

MammaTJ Sat 09-Feb-13 20:00:10

Your neighbours that have done this before?

SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 20:00:22

AIB OTT??

SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 20:01:07

Of course I cannot prove it but very strong gut feeling.

StrawberryMojito Sat 09-Feb-13 20:01:51

Nobody tried to murder you (unless there is a massive backstory here.) But some nasty fuckwit vandalised your car. It must have been a shock when you realised. Report it.

zwischenzug Sat 09-Feb-13 20:03:03

Er, yes you are just a tiny bit.

If they wanted to kill you they'd cut your brakes. Or put a car bomb in. Or petrol bomb your house. A flat tyre never killed anyone.

SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 20:03:23

Ok relief

WowOoo Sat 09-Feb-13 20:03:55

Have you told police? It's criminal damage and v dangerous.

Is there a back story? If not I think you may be over thinking the situation.

KatyTheCleaningLady Sat 09-Feb-13 20:04:20

Flat tires can, indeed, kill someone. Mostly if they "blow" though.

However, I don't think the vandal's intention was to murder.

SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 20:05:45

She is an odd woman. I have helped her but she is very jealous of us. Things she says.

flattyre Sat 09-Feb-13 20:06:20

This is my genuine username btw.

Hope you're okay - really horrible for you. Others are right though, unless there is a back story it will just be bad luck some idiot picked on your vehicle.

MammaTJ Sat 09-Feb-13 20:07:49

There is a bit of a back story, get in touch with the HA and the police! They probably did not mean to murder you but that could have been the result.

Sirzy Sat 09-Feb-13 20:08:22

Surely if they had been slashed they would be completly flat? How did you not notice sooner?

Have you reported it to the police?

cherrypez Sat 09-Feb-13 20:10:01

Actually, I feel the same. Maybe not as extreme as 'tried' to murder you, but somebody deliberately caused damge to your car that they knew was life threateningly dangerous. The same thing happned to my car last week, and my feelings were mainly what kind of a cunt does that to a car with 3 baby seats in the back. The cost of repair didn't matter a shit, it was the sense of evil behind what they did. YANBU in my opinion OP.

SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 20:11:52

grin

Ooh her Mother was a heroin addict and targetted me and my.disabled child to make herself feel better. I had flat tyres, stolen mail, rubbish thrown on my garden car scratches, her dog pooed on my garden, anon calls about me to social services etc

Then it stopped, found out dhe died. Now her Daughrer lives next door, thought she was.ok,.helped her when somebody xalled social services about her.filthy.home. Was not me I had not been in that house for five years and.not my style anyway. No vandalism since ladt March or harrassment because Mother dead abd now I.know it is her Daughter.

No trouble with anybody else, lived hete three years before tbey moved in no.problems.

BinksToEnlightenment Sat 09-Feb-13 20:12:20

People slash and cut tyres a lot more often than you'd think.

SunflowersSmile Sat 09-Feb-13 20:12:20

Report to police and if you suspect you know who did it report them?

SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 20:13:08

RAC report is vabdalism. I had my.music loud in traffic.

landofsoapandglory Sat 09-Feb-13 20:17:44

How can you drive for four miles and not notice you have a flat tyre? The car doesn't handle right and it makes a heck of a noise!

SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 20:18:54

I did

zwischenzug Sat 09-Feb-13 20:21:01

This bloke received 150 hours of community service for his 23 counts of attempted murder:

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/1774819.tyre_slasher_will_not_have_to_pay_damages/

The law clearly does not view tyre slashing as an attempt to kill or even particularly dangerous. It's a nuisance crime more than anything else, causing considerable cost and inconvenience to the victim, it's not an attempt to physically harm anyone.

SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 20:24:52

I am glad of it! I am ignorant and came here.for answers from intelligent, honedt Mumsnetters.

Honestly I would be worse off without this place
I feel LOADS better smile

It has given me a bit of anxiety.

Mimishimi Sat 09-Feb-13 20:28:03

We had eggs thrown on our car once, no one else's. The car wash staff had an awful time cleaning the remnants off because it was the middle of summer and I didn't get out to the car until about midday. Fairly sure it was one of the neighbour's who had been drunk the night before. I didn't approach him because I had heard him being loud and violent when he wasn't drunk and he knew my DH was away. He moved out ( well was chucked out by his housemate) soon after anyway.

Some people are just nutters.

SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 20:31:41

Yes she is...and Him the chicken..he laid those eggs cluck cluck

Acts carried out by utter cowards!!

MammaTJ Sat 09-Feb-13 20:34:07

Sole have you got any cameras trained on your car? That would help a lot. Maybe neighbours opposite would be able to help with this and get a better veiw?

WMittens Sat 09-Feb-13 20:34:55

Really, how is it possible not to notice a slashed tyre for four miles?

MmeLindor Sat 09-Feb-13 20:37:06

Slight overreaction, on your part, I think.

Not U to be annoyed about it, but unless they intended you to die, rather than just be pissed off and rather inconvenienced, I don't see why you'd think that.

SucksToBeMe Sat 09-Feb-13 20:37:52

I've driven with a flat tire before and not noticed. Easily done imo

Portofino Sat 09-Feb-13 20:39:53

You called the Police right?

IrnBruChew Sat 09-Feb-13 20:40:18

Your last post confused me, cluck cluck!

Sirzy Sat 09-Feb-13 20:40:29

A tyre that has been slashed will be fully flat (not just slightly deflated) I can't see how you can drive without hearing it and more importantly feeling that the car isn't handling right at all.

I can understand that with a slow puncture it may take a while to notice but not with a slashed tyre

SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 20:46:43

Well it was punctired with a sharp instrument rather.than slashed.

Cluck cluck as a cowardly chicken

HollyBerryBush Sat 09-Feb-13 20:49:59

well you cant gather any speed on a flat not slashed so its more inconvenience, although I went through a tyre a week for a while - until it was pointed out to me that there were builders down teh road and the surrounding area was covered in discarded nails, screws etc and that was the cause.

No one was trying to kill me but nither am I paranoid hmm

If they were trying to kil you, youd find your breaks cut. I suggest you get a mirror on a stick and check under the car every morning

LAK11 Sat 09-Feb-13 20:50:20

After a minor diagreement, I had my tyre slashed by neighbour. The previous evening she had watched me carry my (3 year old) son to the car at 11 pm to take him to hopsital due to severe breathing problems. The next day I had to take him to GP - car felt funny but I was more concerned about son's health. Ended up stranded in car park with what i thought was a flat. Hubbie came - saw tyre was slashed. Got a new one, got home to find tyre on other car slashed too. We set up CCTV. The footage is amusing. The things that she did.... Police also involved but not on our side - she had 'contacts'.....In the end we moved as her vitriolic behaviour escalated to such a level that no normal human being could deal with it. Hope that helps. Sole, I feel for you.

PhilMcAverty Sat 09-Feb-13 20:51:46

Has this happened again since when it was slashed at the end of Jan or is this the same one?

SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 20:53:18

CCTV going up within tbe next three weeks.

Her Mother stood on a stepping stool,eabed over the garden fence and cut my washing line whilst I stood watching her.open.mouthed from my.kitchen window

SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 20:54:19

Same one but making me anxious..

HesterBurnitall Sat 09-Feb-13 20:56:32

If someone sticks something sharp into a tyre it will often deflate slowly as you drive, much like driving over a nail doesn't necessarily equal instant flat <bitter experience>.

How horrible, op.

LAK11 Sat 09-Feb-13 20:57:12

Make sure your CCTV records. We had light sensors so every time they came onto our drive we were alerted and a separate recorder. It is high tech and high stress. Did our heads in. Really feel for you. We had to sell our house during the middle of a big legal battle with her. We were in the right, but mental health issues made us back down. It is a crap way to live.

SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 21:00:54

LAK sad she says she is undiagnosed BiPolar. Whether this is relevant. But I.knocked on all other.neighbours doors to ask if tbey had seen/heard of anything similiar in area and straight away with zeto prompting from me,.they said was it her!!

Odd isn't it? I see my neighbours to say hello to about once a year as.most.are shift workers etc

PhilMcAverty Sat 09-Feb-13 21:01:59

Bipolar doesn't make you act like a dick to your neighbours. She's probably just a very unpleasant person.

HollyBerryBush Sat 09-Feb-13 21:05:19

A dead woman cut your washing line so you assume its her daughter carrying on a vendetta?

For the love of god, have you read this thread back and realise how unhinged you sound?

We've gone from slashed tyres to a small leaky puncture within a page.

SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 21:05:25

She said she is undiagnosed BiPolar and makes her do things.

I have no.opinion either way

SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 21:06:23

Not it at all Holly

LAK11 Sat 09-Feb-13 21:07:13

Yes, Phil, spot on, Bipolar or not she cannot go slashing/stabbing tyres. Just because you have a 'condition' does not make it acceptable to behave in this way towards others. My son has possible ADHD, does not mean he is allowed to kick the nieghbour's car.... (off subject, I know) Anyway, 'she says...' says it all, really! Chin up, keep strong.

KeepingCalmAndPostingNicely Sat 09-Feb-13 21:08:32

No really OP - holly is quite correct. Put down the glass, have a cup of coffee and calm down. You're in the grips of fantasy with this one.

SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 21:09:16

Holly tbere is a massive back story and herMotber was a heroin addict and I am unhinfed because I mind me own beeswax living next door. Yeah right you seem nice

SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 21:10:57

Well the only fantasists hete are those disbelueving what I say! I am also T total!

I have a vile neighbour not a problem with telling tbe truth

Sirzy Sat 09-Feb-13 21:12:53

Holly is right, you are going to make yourself ill coming up with all sorts of mad ideas. A puctured tyre does not equate trying to kill someone.

KeepingCalmAndPostingNicely Sat 09-Feb-13 21:14:01

Is your keyboard teetotal too?

Pandemoniaa Sat 09-Feb-13 21:15:31

It's a very nasty act of vandalism but not a murder attempt. To be honest, it's quite hard not to notice that all your tyres are flat so I imagine whoever did it thought they'd cause you real grief by not having a car you could drive. If they wanted to murder you, tyre slashing wouldn't be an effective way of going about it so I don't think you need to fear for your life as a result of this horrible episode.

You need to report it to the police though.

Sirzy Sat 09-Feb-13 21:15:44

grin keepingcalm

TheOldBamboo Sat 09-Feb-13 21:20:54

Oh dear. SoleSource I do wonder whether you need to go and have a chat with someone about sorting all of this out.

Whether that person is your GP or the police is beyond me.

FeistyLass Sat 09-Feb-13 21:28:40

There was a manslaughter inquiry just last year when a woman died after someone deliberately slashed her tyre. She didn't realise and lost control of her car on the motorway.
Telegraph tyre article

A slashed tyre doesn't always automatically deflate but it can then deflate suddenly hence why it can be very dangerous.

So in some ways YANBU but it's probably unlikely your neighbour realised how serious a slashed tyre can be.

SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 21:30:45

I have nobody in RL to talk to about it so needed to talk here.

Ok .. I feel OK now and have already stayed I was being OTT. I helped hergt her child back from child protection.. This is how I.am repaid. ..

NeverBeenToMe Sat 09-Feb-13 21:31:05

Sole - knowing a little of the back story, I hope you're ok. As soon as the cctv is installed, you'll have proof of any criminal damage.

Hope you have a peaceful evening.

lindsay321 Sat 09-Feb-13 21:33:09

Am I missing something here?

Why are people being cruel to the OP? Do you guys know something I don't?

KeepingCalm - the OP might be drunk or an appalling typist. Either way that's mean.

Sirzy - same goes for you. For shame.

Geekster Sat 09-Feb-13 21:41:13

Someone stuck a screwdriver through and punctured two of our tyres in a Tesco car park once. The trolley man had seen it and waited by our car to tell us. Totally random. This was us stopping off for a couple of bits of shopping on our way home from hospital after finding out we had, had yet another miscarriage. Some people are just mindless vandles.

SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 21:44:40

My fourteen year.old Son is totally blind, severly Autistic and lots of other problems. Imagine if we were in the car in the City of Birmingham, late at night. She isjealous of our car. She has just been banned and has a criminal recordfor insuring her car in get dead Mitber'sname. She has never had even a provisional license and drove her.toddler around. The womanis crazy.

BinksToEnlightenment Sat 09-Feb-13 21:46:31

Geekster that's horrible sad

SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 21:48:06

Geekster sad how odd some people are. Spiteful.

Geekster Sat 09-Feb-13 21:50:32

Yes some people are awful. It was so random, just the wrong place at the wrong time. Though after six miscarriages we had our longed for DD last March.

SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 21:51:56

grin I am very glad Geekster.

FlyingFig Sat 09-Feb-13 21:55:00

Bloody awful thing to happen. I would be anxious as well, but I think you are over-thinking the issue (which when you're anxious is easily done). I don't think this woman wanted to murder you, or cause you and your DS any immediate harm, but wanted to inconvenience you, rather than plotting with intent to kill.

What have the police said? Has she told you directly she is jealous of your car?

HollyBerryBush Sat 09-Feb-13 21:56:42

As someone asked earlier and didnt get a response, you might have over posted it but

Did
you
go
to
the
police?

because that would be the rational response from someone who thinks they are bout to be the next case study on Silent Witness

SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 21:59:10

Yes I.mafe a report and tbey are coming to.speak to neighbours.

Undure of what you are getting out of your comments to me but go for it!

FlyingFig Sat 09-Feb-13 22:01:04

Is that comment for me?

confused

TheSecretCervixDNCOP Sat 09-Feb-13 22:01:45

Holly back the fuck down, OP has been going through a difficult time lately and you want to be getting off her case if you ask me!

SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 22:02:20

Hides thread..

No Flying

FlyingFig Sat 09-Feb-13 22:04:38

Cross posted, sorry!

lindsay321 Sat 09-Feb-13 22:14:47

OP - we believe you.

I'm sorry your going through such a shit time but I don't think it's attempted murder. Glad you've gone to the police though, they'll decide what happened and what to do next.

Have some thanks

SucksToBeMe Sat 09-Feb-13 22:27:18

Somebody slashed SS tyres and she comes on here only to be called unhinged ??? WTAF?

hmm

TheSecretCervixDNCOP Sat 09-Feb-13 22:33:57

SucksToBeMe I know!! Thought better of Mumsnetters. As a previous thread by SS she is feeling very lonely and vunerable so thought as many others do that she could maybe get some support on here like so many others receive.

Shame on those who have further added to this lady's misery. Shame shame shame.

PickledInAPearTree Sat 09-Feb-13 22:38:56

There isn't any need to put the shits up her further by going on about the brakes too bloody hell how sinister..

lindsay321 Sat 09-Feb-13 22:42:26

Yeah,

I'm glad the likes of of Sirzy and keeping Calm have fecked off for the time being.

Whats their problem?

Come back aforementioned butt holes and defend yourselves!

[NotHelpfulJustTryingToDeflectHurtAwayFromOP]

ChestyNut Sat 09-Feb-13 22:43:05

Some nasty posters round these parts tonight hmm

Hope your feeling calmer sole

PickledInAPearTree Sat 09-Feb-13 22:48:49

It's really irresponsible damaging someone's car. You may not intend to cause any more than criminal damage but it could cause an accident and I can see why it would totally put the willies up someone.

I'd be terrified personally. Knowing a neighbour would do that.

Def. get the CCTV.

SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 22:50:09

I am back!

Thank you all

I forgot to.include the comments I received from the RAC man and the Kwikfit mechanic. The tyre could have xaused an accident and car accidents have the potential to be fatal. Also my.disabled child.. I guess I have been pondering as to whether she knew this after all the xare I.have shown her.

People seem never to fail to.disappoint me at times.

McBalls Sat 09-Feb-13 22:57:57

How did you help get her child back from child protection?

SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 22:59:56

Cleaned her filthy.house in the four days she was given to do.it.

MmeLindor Sat 09-Feb-13 23:03:56

I don't disbelieve that your car had a flat tyre, but I don't see the connection to your neighbour or that she was trying to kill you.

Is it possible that you just drove over a nail or something? What makes you think that it was your neighbour? You said it was punctured with a sharp instrument.

Before anyone flames me, I have no idea of a 'back story' other than what Sole has posted on this thread. Just bemused at how she went from 'I have a puncture' to 'she is trying to kill me'

McBalls Sat 09-Feb-13 23:09:53

Ah ok.

So you have/had some sort of friendship with this woman...how has it come to you now suspecting her of trying to murder you? Has their been a falling out?

SoleSource Sat 09-Feb-13 23:19:01

No friendship at all. Ber child was taken by.social services, nine months before she fpund her.mother dead. Just said I would help for a short.petiod she has nobody else. I offered her my.help. Never friends. She is 23. Her.mother made my life hell.

HildaOgden Sat 09-Feb-13 23:27:58

My tyre has been punctured with a sharp object (probably a nail or shard of glass) on 2 separate occasions,in 2 separate places.Peoples tyres get punctured accidentally all the time,and quite frequently on purpose by mindless vandals.

I think you're overthinking this.Has something happened recently with her to make you think she has it in for you?Unless it has,I'd put it down to 'shit life throws at us'.If she was really trying to get at you,she would have done worse.

FlyingFig Sat 09-Feb-13 23:30:22

Like Mme I also have no idea of any back story, so may have come across as harsh when I said you were possibly over-thinking the issue. But that's what I think sounds much more like someone that wanted to piss you off rather than kill you. Also, someone else up thread asked if this happened recently or a few weeks earlier, is this something you've been dwelling on? If so, why are the police taking this long to speak to your neighbours about this matter?

Have you crossed paths with this woman before her mum died? (going on your above post about social services?). Sorry for all the questions, just trying to work out the background involved.

Your DS is vulnerable so I would hope the police are taking this act of vandalism seriously, given the past history of aggro. You don't need it sad

FlyingFig Sat 09-Feb-13 23:31:32

My grammar and punctuation has gone to shit tonight, sorry!

PickledInAPearTree Sat 09-Feb-13 23:40:05

I don't think she is intending to hurt you, tyre slashing seems quite common with neighbour disputes.

Just a stupid thing to do.

Things seem pretty irrevocably unpleasant between you now so it's got to be police.

And CCTV.

SoleSource Sun 10-Feb-13 00:03:13

No dispute..

MerryCouthyMows Sun 10-Feb-13 00:08:53

Ugh. Living next door to nasty neighbours is awful. After 8 years of it, my housing officer is FINALLY escalating it to a final warning that any further ASB from my neighbour or her family or her visitors will result in a Notice of Seeking Possession.

But that's eight years of dog poo being flung at my washing, being assaulted, having music blaring at 2/3/4am on school nights and then reporting ME to Environmental Health for loud music at times and days i can prove i was at medical appointments with my DC's and my house was empty, having lit cigarettes thrown over the fence at my DC's, hammers thrown at their garden toys until they break, then breaking my whirligig - that I had to pay to replace (as it was supplied by the HA), throwing rubbish in my garden, throwing eggs through any open windows, throwing fresh orange at my windows if they were closed, posting dog poo through my letter box, phoning social services on me repeatedly, phoning the benefit fraud hotline on me, vandalising my gas meter, electric meter and water meter - leaving me without essential utilities, even when she KNOWS my DC have essential medical equipment that I need the electricity for...the list goes on and on, and it's STILL taken me 8 years to get this far.

And that's with numerous police reports etc, and the police putting on extra patrols to ensure the safety of my meters!

JenaiMorris Sun 10-Feb-13 08:26:53

confused

MusicalEndorphins Sun 10-Feb-13 08:45:44

Sole, it is possible that you ran over something, or even that it was a random person. But it is good you are getting a video set up in three weeks, so you if anything else happens, you won't be wondering who did it.

ipswichwitch Sun 10-Feb-13 08:49:03

Jesus couthy that's feckin awful shock
I had a shit neighbour for a year before I managed to sell the house. He sold drugs and had every neighbourhood undesirable in and out all hours of the day and night. He would get hammered and abusive, shouting threats to beat me to a pulp through the letterbox. He'd play music so loud the walls vibrated and pictures would fall off. It was hell.

After I moved I found out he'd been caught in the act of burgling a house 2 doors down (he worked his way through most of the street including my former house), and spent some time at Her Majesty's pleasure during which time his landlord finally saw sense and kicked him (and his equally scummy girlfriend) out. I feel for you OP,it's friggin awful putting up with this shit- mentally and physically exhausting, and I don't get why some people are giving you a hard time about it

SunflowersSmile Sun 10-Feb-13 09:02:57

If mindless vandalism results in death [as slashed tyres can] - manslaughter at least.
I wouldn't give a toss if idiot who did it didn't mean someone to get hurt.
Cameras do seem a good idea if worried about malicious attacks op.
You can get really discreet ones.

PickledInAPearTree Sun 10-Feb-13 10:35:17

Awful couthy!

seaofyou Sun 10-Feb-13 11:46:04

If you want to catch the sicko doing this SS I recommend you make the cctv discrete. If you just want to prevent further attacks have cctv in clear view.

I wish I had hidden my cctv after fake petrol bomb and repeated kicking and screwdriver dents in front door from ex trying to brake in....well he wasn't going to use the screwdriver to mend the 2 outside lights that I assume he broke too.

2 days after I had cctv put up ex stood outside my house...he has also driven past and parks outside (out of of cctv view) but now doesn't touch my property but still frightens the life out of me as the threat is still their.

But I wish I had cctv hidden to nail the evil monster. If this is your neighbour catching them in the act will ensure they will have to move/keep away from you....you need to report this as disability dicrim also. Police taking this more serious but of course it is post code lottery.

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