To think Caitlin Moran is an MNer

(111 Posts)
Softlysoftly Thu 07-Feb-13 12:35:10

She only got to Page 35 before mentioning Greggs sausage rolls.

Come on out yourself.

Trills Thu 07-Feb-13 12:36:04

She used to be.

HintofBream Thu 07-Feb-13 12:50:13

She NCd to Worraliberty.

FellatioNels0n Thu 07-Feb-13 12:55:27

Absolutely. I have just read Moranthology and it wreaks of Mumsnet. Or perhaps Mumsnet just wreaks of her. Not sure which. I think she used to be here, and I wouldn't have put it past her to dip in now and again to do a bit of metaphorical panning for gold.

GetOrf Thu 07-Feb-13 12:55:36

She used to be.

She replied to an email of mine once (I was flamed on a subject that she wrote a very intelligent column about years ago) and I emailed her to commend her on what she said (and said I had been flamed on here) - she replied 'oh god sometimes mumsnet is full of horrible people' or something like that. In any case she was lovely (and I was chuffed).

GetOrf Thu 07-Feb-13 12:56:52

I did love Moranthology.

I often wonder on who she would be on MN - some people post in such a similar way to how she writes, full of CAPITALS FOR EMPHASIS.

GetOrf Thu 07-Feb-13 12:57:40

And yes I wonder if she is still here.

Lots of journos on MN - so wouldn't be surprised.

(Who is nancy66 I wonder...) grin

Trills Thu 07-Feb-13 13:00:01

Fellatio I think you mean reeks.

Having read the Saturday Times nearly every week for the last 5 years I feel like Moranthology would all feel very familiar - is it worth getting anyway?

FellatioNels0n Thu 07-Feb-13 13:00:16

I thought that too Getorf, but I am not sure whether she is still actually here or whether she is so revered and funny that people subconsciously start to speak like her and we attribute her memes and stock phrases to being MN's. I think it's probably a bit of both really.

She replied to me on Twitter once and she thought I was a man (she commented on my user name which was the same as on here) so she obviously was not a big MNer about 2 years ago. If she was then I reserve the right to be indignant that she didn't know who I was. grin

FellatioNels0n Thu 07-Feb-13 13:01:25

I do Trills, thank you.

BiscuitCrumbsInBed Thu 07-Feb-13 13:01:46

I hope she is - if you're out there Caitlin I LOVE YOU!!! and so does my mum. And my sister. And my mother in law. We LOVE you!

Ahem. blush Just had to let it out.

GetOrf Thu 07-Feb-13 13:03:31

It's well worth getting trills.

I remember a lot of the columns but it also collects some of the other stuff she does apart from the Saturday magazine columns - interviews, and some of the Celebrity Watch stuff is really, really funny. She really made me laugh re Downton Abbey and British Bake Off.

FellatioNels0n Thu 07-Feb-13 13:05:06

I really enjoyed it. Even if I'd read some of the columns before I had forgotten them and enjoyed them a second time. grin

I am particularly thankful to her for making me go out and buy both series of Sherlock on the strength of what she wrote (which I didn't read at the time) and then re-printed in Moranthology. I never would have given it a second glance but it is absolutely the best thing I have seen in years.

FellatioNels0n Thu 07-Feb-13 13:08:03

She is massively into Twitter though and my guess is that she has a huge MN following in Twitter so I think she has morphed into us and we have morphed into her a bit. grin

At the end of the book she namechecked a load of her Twitter mates and I wondered if any of them were MNers. My guess is yes.

FellatioNels0n Thu 07-Feb-13 13:09:13

Too many uses of the phrase 'my guess'.

That, and the misspelling of reeks. Really must do better. hmm

ImNotDrunkIJustCantType Thu 07-Feb-13 13:10:35

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ImNotDrunkIJustCantType Thu 07-Feb-13 13:11:00

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FellatioNels0n Thu 07-Feb-13 13:11:16

Does she? shock

<gets out kindle>

FellatioNels0n Thu 07-Feb-13 13:11:43

I missed that. Dammit.

ImNotDrunkIJustCantType Thu 07-Feb-13 13:12:50

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FellatioNels0n Thu 07-Feb-13 13:13:02

Still, I can't imagine she said much any differently on here than in her books. she is very, very honest and open about just about everything so I doubt trawling the archives would throw up anything we don't already know. I am practically on first name terms with her clitoris for crying out loud. grin

Llareggub Thu 07-Feb-13 13:15:26

I remember her being here and agree she was very open about it. For the life of me I can't remember what she was called. I haven't seen her here for years.

FellatioNels0n Thu 07-Feb-13 13:17:24

We need to do an advance search on the words 'I am Caitlin Moran' grin

FellatioNels0n Thu 07-Feb-13 13:22:30

shock Actually, actually, I have just remembered! When I read Moranthology she said something which was an almost exact copy of something hilarious I once said on MN, and I wondered if it had been, erm, recycled, shall we say? Subconsciously or otherwise. I can't for the life of me remember what it was now, but it was bloody fantastic and I said it. <gavel>

ImNotDrunkIJustCantType Thu 07-Feb-13 13:22:56

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squeaver Thu 07-Feb-13 13:26:51

I remember her being here [gimmer].

She wrote a fantastic feature for the Times about how fab MN was and mentioned the names of a few posters. And that meant, of course, that there was an almighty row about it.

And I don't think she ever came back.

LifeofPo Thu 07-Feb-13 13:27:00

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squeaver Thu 07-Feb-13 13:29:24

That thread makes me sad for the old days.

ImNotDrunkIJustCantType Thu 07-Feb-13 13:30:37

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FellatioNels0n Thu 07-Feb-13 13:31:08

I bet she was a Moldie. There is no way the arselicky bastards would have left her out.

I don't know why I felt the need to call them that. I wasn't even here then and I have no idea who they were, nor do I care. confused

ImNotDrunkIJustCantType Thu 07-Feb-13 13:31:14

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FellatioNels0n Thu 07-Feb-13 13:32:22

that's fine. so long as I know who she was I don't really care about anyone else. grin]

MyDarlingClementine Thu 07-Feb-13 13:33:21

I have often wondered who certain posters might be - I have often thought one or two sound a bit like various commics -

Victoria wood, Dawn French and Frankie Boyle.

LifeofPo Thu 07-Feb-13 13:34:29

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GetOrf Thu 07-Feb-13 13:35:56

Jesus H Christ i was on MN in 2007 and never knew. grin

Yes lots of lovely names on there, boco and morningpaper.

I am not one for 'awww MN in the old days was so much better' but christ it is a bag of shite on here lately. Too many thickos.

LifeofPo Thu 07-Feb-13 13:36:19

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GetOrf Thu 07-Feb-13 13:37:40

I have been on here 6 years.


GetOrf Thu 07-Feb-13 13:38:51

I swear to god if someone else says 'gonna' or 'ur' instead of your I am going to KICK SOME ASS.

Trills Thu 07-Feb-13 13:39:39

2007. Wow. Twitter hadn't even been invented.

LifeofPo Thu 07-Feb-13 13:41:28

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FellatioNels0n Thu 07-Feb-13 13:44:12

Dawn French doesn't even own a computer. She wrote her book longhand. Can you imagine? shock

It's shame she's not here. she would be a blast. I reckon Catherine Tate has been here. Some of her characters are MN through and through. This is a goldmine for comedy writers. All writers, let's face it.

LifeofPo Thu 07-Feb-13 13:44:49

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WireCatWhore Thu 07-Feb-13 13:52:38

I can't stand her.
I'm sure she thinks highly of me as well. hmm
I read her book a few years ago. Didn't like it.
I follow her in twitter, dunno why, she annoys me!

And I don't know why I don't like her. blush

BabeRuthless Thu 07-Feb-13 13:57:17

I'd put money on Lauren Laverne lurking on here at the very least. <starts thread about new Flaming Lips album>

squeaver Thu 07-Feb-13 13:58:18

Arf at Po and sepia-tinted memories.

In those days you didn't have to put an enormous LIGHT-HEARTED siren in a thread title.

Was it Boco who posted "I ama size 22 and I have £100 to spend on treating myself, what should I buy?" and someone posted "A handbag?".

LifeofPo Thu 07-Feb-13 14:00:39

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Trills Thu 07-Feb-13 14:01:41

I like Lucy Mangan.

LifeofPo Thu 07-Feb-13 14:02:40

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squeaver Thu 07-Feb-13 14:07:26

Oh I think I vaguely remember that (God, the hours I spent on here, interested in the minutiae of strangers' lives).

I have no strong feelings either way on Lucy Mangan.

MarmaladeTwatkins Thu 07-Feb-13 14:13:14

I reckon she lurks here but doesn't post.

I've gone off her a bit and I was a proper fangirl. She bums India Knight too much to be a genuine, bona fide Good Person.

Yes, here I go again, on about IK but that is my opinion thangeweverymuch.

FellatioNels0n Thu 07-Feb-13 14:14:18

It's ok not to like Caitlin, WCW. It really is. It might feel a bit strange saying it out loud on MN - like saying you vote Conservative. But it's fine.

GetOrf Thu 07-Feb-13 14:14:34

Yes to the rise of the LIGHT HEARTED

I don't know who Lucy Mangan is.

FellatioNels0n Thu 07-Feb-13 14:15:33

Neither do I Getorf. Does she hang out at the Guardian? Because if she does then she and I will never cross paths.

kirstys23 Thu 07-Feb-13 14:18:14

She was, but not now sad - Tweet response ''Used to be - until maybe 2005ish? Then got scared and ran away, waiting for twitter to be invented. I invented all ham memes''

GetOrf Thu 07-Feb-13 14:19:48

lol at 'I invented all ham memes'

nellyjelly Thu 07-Feb-13 14:23:47

Lucy is ok. Leave her alone.

FellatioNels0n Thu 07-Feb-13 14:27:22

Who invented the ham memes? Caitlin or Lucy? I was going to say I bet CM invented the Greggs meme.

She went to the Maldives, did she not? During the Exodus.... wink


FellatioNels0n Thu 07-Feb-13 14:31:13

I already said that PQ. Nobody responded. They either don't know are are afraid to speak.grin

TheMightyLois Thu 07-Feb-13 14:33:18

Ham memes?? grin

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt Thu 07-Feb-13 14:37:37

Blimey, I think I recognised all of the posters on that thread. What a blast from the past.

I have wondered who CM was on here. Now I know and I recognise the name. Who knew?!

drjohnsonscat Thu 07-Feb-13 14:38:55


a) I love your name and hereby pronounce myself to be the same vintage as you and

b) I can't abide India Knight. Conservative attention seeker in "I'm fun and nice" clothing. Everyone needs to step away and ignore. And India please stop publicising your lovely lifestyle and your lovely house with all your lovely nicknacks (the heart cushion, the bunting, the owl themed things) and ethnic tat all over the place. If I've seen it in one Sunday supplement I've seen it in a hundred. Ditto Sophie Conran - I know what her kitchen looks like in more detail than my own kitchen.

<drj reveals surprisingly strong feelings on minor matters>

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt Thu 07-Feb-13 14:39:20

Your post about moldies genuinely made me lol fellatio grin

MarmaladeTwatkins Thu 07-Feb-13 14:42:37

Awww thanks, DrJohnson. It's new <twirls> wink

I'm not going to say too much about IK because last time I did, her fwend came on and had a big benny at us for being mean (yeah, the irony, huh?!) and MN deleted a load of us and it wasn't nice, so I'll just say yy to everything you just said.

And she totally nicked my interior designs style. Or her interior designer did because she didn't do it herself. Oh no she di'ent.

Well, for me it was a case of Veni Vidi Vici and could not let the door slam in my arse fast enough!

drjohnsonscat Thu 07-Feb-13 14:46:06

oh lordy. I didn't know that you could get suspended for being mean about an annoying person.

Let's just have a really tiny clique where we look snooty and nudge each other whenever a certain person is mentioned. It'll be fun and just like being at school.

MarmaladeTwatkins Thu 07-Feb-13 14:47:25

I don't think any of us got suspended, just posts deleted. A lot of them WERE very mean mine included but not without good reason, IMO. It's not like we just started being mean about Bambi or summat.

manicbmc Thu 07-Feb-13 16:22:36

I liked CM's book. It was funny and got me through a bloody awful train journey (complete with 4 year old kicking my seat whilst his mother was performance parenting) grin

It'd be interesting to know if there were any famous MNetters but I'm not really bothered.

WireCatWhore Thu 07-Feb-13 16:24:40

Fellatio, I do not vote Conservative! grin

FellatioNels0n Thu 07-Feb-13 16:25:27

I did not try to intimate that you did! I was just saying....grin

WireCatWhore Thu 07-Feb-13 16:26:16

I vote Monster Raving Loony party....

Southeastdweller Thu 07-Feb-13 17:20:20

Maybe she lurks rather than posts as I don't recognise her style on any of the posts I've read.

I increasingly find her TOO MUCH. Muted her on Twitter now for a while. I'm nt keen on much of the Twitterati apart from Kathryn Flett and Lucy Mangan, both of whom I think probably are on here. Less said about India Knight the better, given how sensitive MNHQ are to any kind of criticism about her...

drjohnsonscat Thu 07-Feb-13 17:24:44

I do like Zoe Williams though. Is she on here? Am I already communicating with her? This is like a seance.

Pagwatch Fri 08-Feb-13 10:35:57

I remember the thread bout the disliking of a handbag scenario

< ignores everything else like sherry addled granny in the corner>

Pagwatch Fri 08-Feb-13 10:37:48

The more time passes since the night of the Moldies the funnier I find it which makes me insensitive and shallow. And sherry addled.

ubik Fri 08-Feb-13 10:52:03

Oh Mumsnet used to be so much funnier

I was reading 'How to Be a Woman' on nightshift the other night and she mentions that she has always wanted a gay son - I always wanted a gay son who liked shopping and had lots of lovely friends. I felt she was a kindred spirit.

lighthearted disclaimer: Yes I do know that not all gay men like shopping and in face if I had a son and he was gay, he would probably be of the geeky variety

FlouncingMintyy Fri 08-Feb-13 11:03:07

Of all the things I've ever read on Mumsnet I think that birthday table thread is one that has always stuck with me, in a haunty kind of way. And Boco was so awesome in the way she posted about it.

My dh loves Caitlin more than I do. But I am trying to emulate her lovely grey streak.

FlouncingMintyy Fri 08-Feb-13 11:04:06

Bit early for sherry isn't it Pag? Even on a Friday shock.

Alittlestranger Fri 08-Feb-13 11:05:51

CM has said that she left MN because there are no men here, whereas she can flirt on twitter.

At least that's the official reason. Probably it comes down to the LOLS and the huns.

Pagwatch Fri 08-Feb-13 11:15:42

It's true Mintyy. [sigh]

<puts stopper back in bottle>

Absy Fri 08-Feb-13 11:23:43

She's how I ended up on MN. There used to be a times blog called Alphamummy, that she and others contributed to and she used to mention MN all the time. So, I had a look and stayed.

TheMightyLois Fri 08-Feb-13 11:27:12

Ooooohh that sounds familiar Absy - I think that's how I ended up here too.

Ahem - I have no idea who Caitlin Moran is.

limitedperiodonly Fri 08-Feb-13 12:03:35

I can't bear Zoe Williams. Or Tanya Gold. Caitlin Moran is annoying and India Knight is an unspeakable twat. Think that covers Female Columnists I Hate for the moment.

FlouncingMintyy Fri 08-Feb-13 12:15:02

Got any that you actually like, limited? grin

ubik Fri 08-Feb-13 12:18:52

I really liked Lucy Mangan - I am also a book geek and I loved her series on children's books. But she's got s bit worthy since she had the nipper, and now has moved to Surrey or somewhere 'naice.'

I've always admired women who are confident enough to just be themselves without trying to please others all the time - something I used to catch myself doing alot, but as I get older I get more cantankerousasserive

Chunderella Fri 08-Feb-13 13:01:26

I really don't like India Knight. I like Caitlin Moran.

Zoe Williams certainly reads MN, or has in the past. She mentions it loads in 'What Not To Expect When You're Expecting'. Couldn't tell you whether she's posted or not.

limitedperiodonly Fri 08-Feb-13 13:01:43

Don't think Suzanne Moore or Barbara Ellen have ever annoyed me mintyy.

Also I hate Hadley Freeman and the made-up fashion problem page she does so she can do social commentary with a quirky twist.

Oh, and Allison Pearson.

Absy Fri 08-Feb-13 13:57:56

I love Caitlin. I wish she was back here, so we could have larks. I dream of having a boozy night out involving karaoke with her.

FlouncingMintyy Fri 08-Feb-13 14:10:43

Oh yes I love Barbara Ellen.

drjohnsonscat Fri 08-Feb-13 14:28:50

Agree re Tanya Gold. I don't think she's good enough tbh. But will stand by Zoe. I think she's clever - and not afraid to be clever. She wrote a review in Guardian Review (I think about Aftermath or some other overwrought thing) which was just well-read and clever and more readable than most of Guardian Review

She has Caitlin's way of getting to the very heart of an issue in a pithy way - but without her sometimes offputting way of it being all about Caitlin and her fun family.

Zoe, if you can hear me, just send me a message <closes eyes and listens for tapping>

drjohnsonscat Fri 08-Feb-13 14:30:50

Also like Lucy Mangan and her tales of her mother's tea towel useage rules.

Can't really be bothered with Barbara Ellen. Do really like Janice Turner.

Anyone else? That poster called MargeProops shoudl really be on this thread.

ubik Fri 08-Feb-13 14:35:12

I really it Marina Hyde?? She write for the The Guardian, usually the Lost on Showbiz column, she has a great turn of phrase, very funny.

Also Racheal something - she does the Art reviews in The Guardian and sometimes the Observer foodie bit. She gets very snippy but I really love the art reviews when she thinks it's all a bit shite. And her interviews where she falls out with the celeb.

ginslinger Fri 08-Feb-13 14:38:03

the bloody christmas of moldies. I'm sure that my family thought that I was having an affair because I kept excusing myself to 'check something'.

drjohnsonscat Fri 08-Feb-13 14:38:53

oh Rachel Cook? or Cooke?

Yes I like her. She had a quote on Wolf Hall which I loved - something along the lines of "Wolf Hall is not just a depiction of Thomas Cromwell. Hilary Mantel actually becomes Thomas Cromwell" which got right to the heart of why I thought that book was amazing.

SwedishEdith Fri 08-Feb-13 14:45:19

Wasn't Rachel Cook the one who said she couldn't possibly have children when there were so many books left to read - something like that. She sounded a bit of an idiot when she said.

Bought the CM book (in a charity shop) but cannot bring myself to read it due to CM's very annoying face on the cover. Dumped her on Twitter - booooooring

drjohnsonscat Fri 08-Feb-13 14:48:54

I quite like people who don't want children and say so. I don't like people who say "breeders" (yes you annoying Hannah thingy who is v beautiful apparently, from the Times) but I like the idea of thinking I don't want to because I have too many books to read.

Disclaimer: I love my children and don't love books more than them but Wolf Hall is more interesting than my three year old at times.

SwedishEdith Fri 08-Feb-13 14:52:57

There was a bit of an anti-children tone to it though, I seem to have chosen to recall

AmandaPayne Fri 08-Feb-13 14:53:25

I quite like Janice Turner. Didn't she get in trouble for saying something on MN and then saying it again in a column and people thought she'd nicked it. Was that her?

I used to love CM, but have got rid of her on Twitter, all that chatting to Lauren Lavern and India Knight. It's a bit like the cool girls in the six form who have their conversations really loudly, but won't let anyone else join in. A private conversation, but really loudly in public. why?

drjohnsonscat Fri 08-Feb-13 14:54:00

I was probably in a bad mood that day and could see her point grin

GrandPoohBah Fri 08-Feb-13 15:01:17

I love your sentiment re. your 3yo, DJC. I feel like that about DH sometimes too.

It's ok, he understands. Santa He bought me a mug which says 'Go Away, I'm Reading' on it for Christmas, it was my favourite present!

Trills, if you've read most of CM's stuff in the Times (tv reviews, CW plus column) and have a memory, I wouldn't buy the book. I felt a bit shafted to be honest - I already pay to get past the paywall and then I paid again to read articles I'd already seen.

ubik Fri 08-Feb-13 15:02:32

I don't actually mind that RC doesn't want children and would rather read a book or even that she doesn't like children (if that's what she said) why should she?

I think she is a good writer and interviewer. I like reading her stuff.

Southeastdweller Fri 08-Feb-13 18:03:48

I like Janice Turner, though some of her columns are boring. I prefer her articles and the one she did last year on being old, in which she disguised herself as an elderly day was extremely powerful.

I also like Rachel Cooke and was at a theatre Q&A she was at last night where the playwright she was interviewing got quite unnecessarily snippy...felt quite sorry for her. I wish she'd write more.

Went off Barbara Ellen after she criticised Jane Horrocks in 2011 which reeked of inverse snobbery.

I used to like Allison Pearson when she did Late Review in the 90's but her reactionary views later on in the papers got on my wick and I Don't Know She Does It was shite.

limitedperiodonly Fri 08-Feb-13 19:13:42

Zoe Williams's professionally distracted act drives me potty. As does her use of obscure words to show how brainy she is. Her favourite is otiose. I had to look it up. Yes, she is.

Southeastdweller Fri 08-Feb-13 21:00:16

That's one of the things about C.M's writing I don't like - sprinkling her articles with obscure words I don't know. I mean, I do feel I have a reasonably wide vocabulary but I struggle sometimes to know exactly what she's on about. One could say what she does is a tad pretentious...

AmandaPayne Fri 08-Feb-13 21:00:27

I like otiose grin. It is good passive aggressive language to use in fraught work negotiations when the other side of the deal are annoying you, but you can't actually be rude - "In your latest mark up you've reinstated the whole of clause 18. I'm sure you'll agree that clause 18.2 (a) is otiose now we've all agreed on the wording of Schedule B."

Bearcrumble Fri 08-Feb-13 21:01:47

Zoe Williams and those socks. They still spring into my head every now and again and startle me.

scottishmummy Fri 08-Feb-13 21:06:16

she's funny but I'm nonplussed if she mnetter or not
but I imagine a few would be really big sooks,and you is luffly to her
and refreshingly a few wouldn't. hee hee no big heids tolerated on mn

scottishmummy Fri 08-Feb-13 21:13:24

I see wee shout out for not like old days...there's always one
mn of yore was dull,cliquey,people arse licked so called names,and said I'll get popcorn
and and did gavel as if it is like proper legal with gravitas and all that

willesden Fri 08-Feb-13 21:27:42

I wasted good money on her latest book. Biggest load of tosh I ever read. Hopefully, if she writes on here, it is about things more riveting than tampons, cystitis and baggy jumpers.

Bearcrumble Fri 08-Feb-13 22:17:23

I know what the two bits of gossip were on that old thread as well.

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