to think BBC (Top Gear) should not promote bad driving

(125 Posts)
EdwardTaylor Wed 06-Feb-13 12:46:32

Latest programme (broadcast Sun.3rd Feb. Repeat Sat.9th Feb) includes the following:
(Last feature) car race on public roads.
Richard Hammond spinning the wheels of his car on the hotel forecourt.
James May reading a map as he drives along.
Jeremy Clarkson putting his car into a slide at one junction.

All this on public roads. It looks dangerous. Any driver should be prosecuted for dangerous driving for doing any of the above. Isn't it wrong for the BBC to promote it as "harmless fun"? Aren't they promoting bad attitudes to driving and safety.

rubyslippers Wed 06-Feb-13 12:50:29

it's a self congratulatory, macho, and I would imagine staged and scripted

i guess it is to appear dangerous

Sparklingbrook Wed 06-Feb-13 12:56:09

POWER!!!!!

WorriedMummy73 Wed 06-Feb-13 12:59:21

I don't think anyone actually takes it seriously as a 'driving show' anymore. I certainly don't, I find it hilarious! Anyone watching it for driving tips, or taking away the presenter's attitudes towards cars and driving is a bit worrying to me...

EdwardTaylor Wed 06-Feb-13 12:59:32

P.S. Oh, and we have one of the worst child pedestrian accident rates in Europe, apparently. Why doesn't the BBC ever make any programmes on the dangers pedestrians face?

fluffyraggies Wed 06-Feb-13 12:59:38

YANBU

All three of them are dick heads.

fluffyraggies Wed 06-Feb-13 13:00:55

Especially that fat headed arrogant bastard Clarkson.

Bogeyface Wed 06-Feb-13 13:04:37

If it was a program called "Driving lessons for the hard of thinking" then you would have a point.

As it is an entertainment show that is loosely based around cars, featuring grown men buggering about, YABU.

Sparklingbrook Wed 06-Feb-13 13:09:15

It's entertainment, and it's funny. They aren't promoting anything. I don't think you can blame three blokes cocking about in cars on BBC2 for the child pedestrian accident rates TBH.

Bearbehind Wed 06-Feb-13 13:13:16

Some of it is downright dangerous. Did you see the one last week where Clarkson was driving that bubble car thing that was little more than a moped, on a main road with all the traffic queuing up behind him?

The bit I thought was disgraceful was when he went to fuel it and it wouldn't take the minimum amount of fuel you have to buy so he squirted the remainder into the bin by the pump! How fucking stupid is that?

chocoluvva Wed 06-Feb-13 13:17:50

YANBU. I completely agree - Top Gear is outrageous. Can't stand it. Very irresponsible.

stargirl1701 Wed 06-Feb-13 13:21:48

He didn't squirt petrol in the bin. It was edited to look like that. It's an entertainment show, not a documentary. It is highly scripted and edited.

WorriedMummy73 Wed 06-Feb-13 13:23:51

I personally like the show, but I'm acquaintances with someone who worked on it a few years ago and she said Clarkson is a massive, sexist arse...

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Wed 06-Feb-13 13:24:09

I loathe Top Gear. It's tv for twelve year old boys and I doubt they have the nous to consider how reality what they are watching is.

Sparklingbrook Wed 06-Feb-13 13:24:11

noo stargirl who'd have thought? grin

If you don't like it, don't watch it.
Blimey, it's an entertainment show and is scripted, set-up and edited very well.
BYW - Jeremy is my guilty crush! Such a funny bloke (IMO), his books are LOL hillarious!

Hobbitation Wed 06-Feb-13 13:29:08

They really shouldn't promote men being totally sad shitclown bellends. Plus even for people who enjoyed the show, they jumped the shark five series ago.

I actually used to watch and enjoy it in the 90s when they had Tiff Needell and actually used to test & review cars, not wank over expensive penis extensions.

That should be BTW and not BYW!
I'm a woman in my mid 40's and I love it - not a 12 year old boy.
We all like different things - would be a dull world if we all liked the same stuff!

CalamityKate Wed 06-Feb-13 13:32:42

DH thinks all their banter is spontaneous. He won't have it that its scripted and rehearsed. Bless him.

Hobbitation Wed 06-Feb-13 13:35:46

Hammond is a twat as well.

James May is potentially more likeable, but lets himself down being a minion/patsy to the others.

It's awful, the male equivalent of Loose Women.

If it were up to me I'd make the next show the last episode, put Hammond & Clarkson in a caravan, set light to it and fire it from a trebuchet into the North Sea smile

Bearbehind Wed 06-Feb-13 13:49:53

Does that make it alright then, Stargirl, looking like he squirted petrol in the bin is acceptable?

Sparklingbrook Wed 06-Feb-13 14:04:13

I don't think people are likely to squirt petrol into the bin after seeing JC possibly doing it. Petrol way too expensive for that.

Llanbobl Wed 06-Feb-13 14:05:14

YABU- it's a light entertainment programme - if it's not to your taste go watch another channel.

The queues of traffic behind the P45 car and the petrol incident were staged - it was bloody obvious. Can't see how it's different to some of the dumb and far fetched story lines in soaps. Write to the BBC and complain, I'm sure Top Gear will broadcast a suitably contrite apology wink

I would think that stretches of road are closed for filming to mitigate the risk to the public (anyone work on the programme or at the BBC and know?).

Startail Wed 06-Feb-13 14:05:34

Oh fuck off you miserable lot.

Sparklingbrook Wed 06-Feb-13 14:06:51

Come round to mine Startail we have all the Challlenges on DVD, we could start with the Polar one. wink

WorriedMummy73 Wed 06-Feb-13 14:07:27

My Dad loathes Clarkson, which I find particularly amusing as they're very alike! Would never tell my Dad that though - mentioned it to my Mum and she was HORRIFIED!

Bearbehind Wed 06-Feb-13 14:07:48

That is a very good point Sparklingbrook grin

Amateurish Wed 06-Feb-13 14:12:07

What, are you lot seriously telling me that Top Gear is not a Government sponsored documentary on road safety?

Shit, think of all the petrol I've just wasted by squirting it into a bin...

Joins the 'I Love Top Gear' side.

mostly because its pisses so many people off!

degutastic Wed 06-Feb-13 14:27:16

Can I join the Challenges DVD fest? I can bring my one where Hammond is trying to mimic driving after a nuclear disaster? grin

I like it. Yes, it's daft, scripted, sometimes offensive and not a serious driving show, but it is entertaining (if you like that sort of thing, which I do - but then I think Strictly, soaps and many other popular shows are daft - the world would be dull if we were all the same!).

I think you have to credit the public with a small amount of intelligence to realise that copying Clarkson et al.'s apparent style of driving would be deeply unwise, sometimes illegal. And the reason there aren't more shows about pedestrian safety is simply that the viewing figures would almost certainly be very low hmm

calandarbear Wed 06-Feb-13 14:35:54

I also love Top Gear. I love cars, I love driving and I would love to try out some supercars round a track ( closest I ever got was my Dad's 911 round the block but I'm pretty sure it's much more fun when there isn't a speed limit or parked cars lol).
Even my 6 year old says things like " that road is closed really" and "there is a police car with them" when he is watching Top Gear. I think you'd have to be pretty dense to think these things are done without appropriate safety procedures in place.

BumpingFuglies Wed 06-Feb-13 15:34:41

Oh come on, it's a bit of fun. I love the show, but even if I didn't I have enough brain cells to realise I shouldn't copy it!

Long live Clarkson and his Gentleman Vegetables grin

Startail Wed 06-Feb-13 15:35:03

Top Gear has my DDs in fits of laughter, there is almost no family viewing left that will do that.

Also I think I know the bit of Welsh public road the had the Merc on, before the rally stage. It is incredibly quiet, you could easily close it for 20 minutes and no one notice. I'm certain the local farmers could organize a few sheep in the right place if you wanted to do it quietly.

Of course they might meet my elderly father bouncing over the hill towards them in his totally unnecessary 4x4.

Bogeyface Wed 06-Feb-13 16:12:15

Another thought, you do know OP that it is filmed in the UK dont you? You know, the country with the most stringent health and safety laws in the universe? Health and safety laws that mean a cafe cant warm a bottle of baby milk and that mean that a refuse collector isnt allowed to actually touch a bin bag!

Do you really think that in the UK they would allow the BBC to pour petrol into a bin, totally wreck a car wash with a home made convertible people carrier or set on fire a caravan site? Or drive a quad bike on the dual carriageway without some serious safety protocols in place?!

EuroShagmore Wed 06-Feb-13 16:16:45

I also love Top Gear. I wish Clarkson was a bad influence of a bad demin-clad uncle to me.

It's an entertainment show that doesn't take itself too seriously. We need more of those.

PS - OP, while we are on the subject of BBC shows, you do realise that Eastenders isn't a documentary, right?

KeepingCalmAndPostingNicely Wed 06-Feb-13 16:23:17

What worries me more than anything is that there are people out there who seriously think it's an educational programme and that squirting petrol into a bin is something we should all do if we are to progress intellectually. Because let's face it - clearly some of you DO think that. You DO think that everything they show on that programme is some kind of instruction for the hard of thinking to go out and copy. You DO think that Clarkson or any of them give even the smallest shiny shite what you think of their TV personas.
I know someone who regularly has dinner with JC and he is not for the fainthearted. Very much as one would expect, surely?
I was behind him in a queue at a newsagent in the Cotswolds once. He completely ignored me - I might as well have been a cockroach as far as he was concerned grin. I wouldn't have wanted it any other way - who wants their illusions shattered? grin

Sidge Wed 06-Feb-13 16:41:02

My boyfriend's friend is a cameraman on Top Gear. He can't say much or he'd have to kill us or summat but TG is incredibly heavily scripted, rehearsed, edited and safety-assessed up the yingyang.

I bloody love it, it cracks me up. I'd far rather watch three blokes twatting about with cars, caravans and suchlike than the brain-evaporating shite that is CBB, I'm a Celebrity etc.

Geekster Wed 06-Feb-13 16:41:29

I personally love Top Gear and find it amusing, but I can quite easily see why others don't like it. It's a bit Marmite really.

StuntGirl Wed 06-Feb-13 16:44:31

Personally I think it only promotes bad television, but whatever grin

I love TG. It's a comedy show not a serious motoring programme. And I'd do Clarksongrin
(Out and Proud)

11Plustrauma Wed 06-Feb-13 16:50:32

I love Top Gear. It's great family viewing for a Sunday evening but it's totally and utterly made up - it's not real, it's television.

I would not do Clarkson though.

JenaiMorris Wed 06-Feb-13 16:55:52

Well this very morning I squirted a litre of Super Unleaded into a bin, wheelspan off the petrol station forecourt and performed the Most Astonishing Japanese Powerslide Ever Seen into the school car park.

Am I not meant to do these things?

11Plustrauma Wed 06-Feb-13 16:58:49

I actually did once pull into the school car park (which was empty) and do a handbrake turn. The caretaker congratulated me blush

Sidge Wed 06-Feb-13 16:59:34

As long as you did it in your Aston or Lambo Jenai you're OK.

A Honda Civic doesn't count.

Sparklingbrook Wed 06-Feb-13 17:00:17

Yes, it's not real like say the soaps are. And they are always doing stupid things in soaps, I hope nobody thinks to copy anyone in a soap. shock

KeepingCalmAndPostingNicely Wed 06-Feb-13 17:05:27

Jenai I'll see your Japanese Power Slide and raise you an old caravan filled with petrol and matches and dropped from 300 feet into a school playground where it might, or might not, be playtime!

Ha! What now?

McNewPants2013 Wed 06-Feb-13 17:06:36

I love watching top gear, it wouldn't even cross my mind to copy some of their antics.

Loved how they drew a cock with wheel marks smile

EnjoyResponsibly Wed 06-Feb-13 17:08:40

OP may I introduce you to your TVs remore control.

I Heart TG. It's very funny. I'd love to do a lap in the reasonably priced car.

and do Clarkson on the bonnet

grin

EddieVeddersfoxymop Wed 06-Feb-13 17:09:37

Sorry, but I love it! As countless others said, it is scripted - he seriously did not pour the fuel in the bin in the last episode.

Its staple viewing in the foxymop household, we even have to tape it for my 5 year old DD as she loves the cars and has a soft spot for James May.

Veritate Wed 06-Feb-13 17:11:14

Gawd. the next thing we know there'll be banner headlines in the Daily Fail screaming "FURY over dangerous BBC Top Gear programme" and extensively quoting this thread. They hate Clarkson since he made it clear that he doesn't care one jot what they think - which is possibly the best thing I know about him.

JenaiMorris Wed 06-Feb-13 17:11:49

Won't somebody please think about the children? <wails>

Top Gear is bollocks, but largely harmless bollocks. It has its moments of brilliance (if you like that kind of thing) but they're hardly role models for anyone; if it helps, 12 yo ds really really doesn't want to be Jeremy Clarkson, nor any of them tbh, with the possible exception of The Stig.

11Plustrauma Wed 06-Feb-13 17:12:20

I would do The Hamster though ..... blush

CloudsAndTrees Wed 06-Feb-13 17:13:45

I love Top Gear too.

You need to unclench OP.

JenaiMorris Wed 06-Feb-13 17:14:22

Oh and I don't drive a Honda Civic angry wink

EddieVeddersfoxymop Wed 06-Feb-13 17:15:46

11plustrauma, form an orderly queue, behind me........grin

11Plustrauma Wed 06-Feb-13 17:16:37

grin

11Plustrauma Wed 06-Feb-13 17:18:19

You know the one where they made the soft top Renault Espace? The bit where they are doing the bendy thinging with the pipe stuff and they bend it arse about face creases me up every single time (I may have seen it millions of time) and when Clarkson sews himself to the sewing machine......

Sparklingbrook Wed 06-Feb-13 17:24:50

I love it in the Alfa Romeo one where they keep driving up the back of James. And when JC ties a cow to the roof of the car, and bought the baby Jesus a Nintendo DS. There's loads of bits that are sooo funny.

SayMama Wed 06-Feb-13 17:25:25

Did you see the most recent one where they edited it to pretend they were going 55mph when in fact they were speeding?!! It was hilarious

11Plustrauma Wed 06-Feb-13 17:28:46

Oh the Alfa one was hilarious.

No I didn't see that one SayMama!!

But honestly it's just ENTERTAINMENT.

I try and be sniffy about it but the episode last week or maybe one before had me howling with laughter. JC was in the little mobility type car and taking it into lifts and the theatre. I really want to hate him and his stonewashed jeans but I can't.

11Plustrauma Wed 06-Feb-13 17:30:54

I feel a night of Iplayer coming on

Sparklingbrook Wed 06-Feb-13 17:30:58

The Stig on public transport/Stig's fat American cousin. <arf>

11Plustrauma Wed 06-Feb-13 17:32:26

The one I saw the other day when the Stig was at Blackpool waiting for them as they raced to turn on the lights and Jeremy was thrashing the arse out of the big Jag and then had a panic attack once he'd passed his house and realised he actually wanted to win.

There's loads. I love it. The Alfa one was the one with the cheese on the engine block wasn't it?

VivaLeBeaver Wed 06-Feb-13 17:35:41

I've learnt to do a Scandinavian flick thanks to top gear. It's very educational, love it. grin

I read a newspaper article of Clarksons once that said something like, " I was at home writing the script for the next episode of TG when I got a phone call to say we'd won an award for best non scripted tv show"

It's 99.9% scripted. Not just the studio stuff but all the out and about stuff.

JenaiMorris Wed 06-Feb-13 17:41:38

I am finding it hard to believe that the OP isn't pulling our collective leg somewhat.

If anything has a detrimental influence on my driving, it isn't a bunch of aging denim-botherers fannying about with caravans or cruising supercars along deserted mountain roads; it's the onboard cameras they fit on F1 cars these days, and playing too much Forza blush grin

complexnumber Wed 06-Feb-13 17:44:32

"Oh, and we have one of the worst child pedestrian accident rates in Europe"

Can you cite that please? I've tried to find references, but they seem to be either lacking in credibility or closed.

The claim may well be correct, but I think it needs some substance.

KatyTheCleaningLady Wed 06-Feb-13 17:46:19

I love Top Gear!

And I adore Jeremy Clarkson.

11Plustrauma Wed 06-Feb-13 17:53:22

I'm watching Top Gear on Dave thanks to this thread grin

MrsReiver Wed 06-Feb-13 17:53:34

Team Top Gear here too, we love it, DS has recently discovered it so we're working our way through all the repeats on Dave at the moment.

A Lamborghini Aventador drove past the school the other week when I was picking him up, and he nearly exploded with excitement. He's picked up a huge amount from watching TG, as I was treated to lots of factoids about Lambos on the walk home grin

stargirl1701 Wed 06-Feb-13 18:00:16

I think I would've exploded with excitement too!!!! Love, love, love Lambos!

MrsReiver Wed 06-Feb-13 18:08:54

It was pretty awesome, the driver spotted DS pointing and jumping and revved the arse out of it as he passed us. Exactly the sort of irresponsible behaviour the OP is complaining about Top Gear encouraging.

EdwardTaylor Wed 06-Feb-13 18:45:12

How about this, Complexnumber :

May 8, 2009 – Britain is 'way behind' other countries in child pedestrian deaths and must do more to prevent accidents, ... seriously injured on the roads, the report from the National Audit Office (NAO) said.

(Reported by Telegraph).

11Plustrauma Wed 06-Feb-13 18:48:11

And of course that's all Top Gear's fault?

BarredfromhavingStella Wed 06-Feb-13 18:52:13

YABU, love love love Top Gear-it's piss funny.

EdwardTaylor Wed 06-Feb-13 19:04:06

Maybe, 11Plustrauma, that's a problem the BBC could help tackle (perhaps making a prog. on pedestrian safety issues ).
It isn't and actually looks like its ADDING to the problem with Top Gear - which can only give encouragement to those idiots who DO drive as if they think public roads are there for them to use like some kind of "playground" / racetrack.

11Plustrauma Wed 06-Feb-13 19:24:30

oh for goodness sake. Unclench.

Bogeyface Wed 06-Feb-13 19:24:45

And you think that taking TG off the tv will stop certain people driving like arseholes? Because it wont. There were arseholes before TG and there will be arseholes after it. There are arseholes in countries that dont show TG.

Blaming an entertainment program for the level of road deaths in the UK is bloody ridiculous!

KenLeeeeeee Wed 06-Feb-13 19:30:33

I love Top Gear. It's absurdity in its most ludicrous form, but I love it.

I would not do Clarkson.
I would do The Hamster. Twice.

Bogeyface Wed 06-Feb-13 19:31:20

Am I the only person who would do James May?!

Sparklingbrook Wed 06-Feb-13 19:32:54

I would Bogey but I have some stuff that needs doing round the house. So if he could fix my outside light, mend DS2's puncture and have a look at the kitchen tap as foreplay that would be grand. grin

11Plustrauma Wed 06-Feb-13 19:32:59

Bogey you are more than welcome to Mr May wink

And I do love love Top Gear yes it's daft but it's funny as anything and just light entertainment.

11Plustrauma Wed 06-Feb-13 19:34:04

I just want the Hamster. I wouldn't ask him to do anything. Except me. Often. grin

Sparklingbrook Wed 06-Feb-13 19:35:13

Hamster wouldn't be as good with his hands as JM IMO 11. wink

11Plustrauma Wed 06-Feb-13 19:36:53

It's not his hands I'm after Sparkling grin

stickingattwo Wed 06-Feb-13 19:38:16

YABU. Lighten up, its not real.

Foggles Wed 06-Feb-13 19:38:42

Yes Sparkling, Mr May has an impressive toolkit and would be very useful around the house.

I love Top Gear.

Sparklingbrook Wed 06-Feb-13 19:40:22

I bet when stuff in JM's house breaks it gets fixed instantly. envy

nokidshere Wed 06-Feb-13 19:41:03

I sort of watch it by default because my two boys love it and are always watching and rewatching it. I cannot stand JC but the programme as a whole is quite funny.

Foggles Wed 06-Feb-13 19:41:10

I'd do The Stig - but only if he kept his hat on. grin

Cantbelieveitsnotbutter Wed 06-Feb-13 19:41:39

And built better then the original sparkling

Sparklingbrook Wed 06-Feb-13 19:43:46

You mean his helmet Foggles <arf>

OOh yes Cant it would all be taken apart and fixed properly. Not botched up 'for now'.

cocolepew Wed 06-Feb-13 19:44:13

Me and the DDs absolutely love it, it creases us up grin.

MadHairDay Wed 06-Feb-13 19:46:00

I love the one where they make 'campervans' and are driving down the M5 with something that looks like a block of flats on Jezzas car and Richard's little cottage which turns into a flammable tardis on the unfortunate campsite grin

We love it here, and don't tend to take driving tips from it although dh pretends to

11Plustrauma Wed 06-Feb-13 19:48:27

I love it. It's great light entertainment. but that's all it is. apart from letting me perv The Hamster

Sparklingbrook Wed 06-Feb-13 19:49:22

This place was fun. The DSs thought it was fab. Maybe not a good day out for you though Edward. sad

BumpingFuglies Wed 06-Feb-13 20:05:04

Bogeyface - I would go on a date with James, but I wouldn't do him. I'd do Hamster but I'd marry JC for his money and motors grin

Foggles that's revolting. Like leaving one's socks on. Eeeew!

11Plustrauma Wed 06-Feb-13 20:07:07

So, Bumping, is this Top Gear Shag, Marry, Push Off a Cliff? grin

Bogeyface Wed 06-Feb-13 20:10:05

Shag JC, Marry JM, Push RH off a cliff as he really gets on my nerves, his TG persona is fine but his RL personality is so effing smug!

BumpingFuglies Wed 06-Feb-13 20:11:01

I reckon it is 11Plus

WWYD? grin

BumpingFuglies Wed 06-Feb-13 20:13:27

Marry JM? shock He hangs out with Oz Clarke and all sorts of stuff and he likes...

<whispers>

trains!

11Plustrauma Wed 06-Feb-13 20:20:47

Shag James May just once for his LARGE toolbox, Marry The Hamster and tie him to the bed, and push Clarkson off a VERY HIGH cliff.

JenaiMorris Wed 06-Feb-13 20:21:10

Sparkling, ds and I took my car down to Beaulieu once to an event, where we got to park in a special area because my car is special proud

countrykitten Wed 06-Feb-13 21:15:48

Love love love TG! The muppets who hate it can fuck off and watch Eastenders or some other mindless shit (btw, that's not real either ....). JC is a funny, clever bloke and his books are hilarious as is his column in the Times.

Btw Hamster lovers...he lives very near to me....wink

DizzyZebra Wed 06-Feb-13 21:18:19

TBH Anyone who copies that sort of driving 'because they saw it on the telly' clearly has the mental age of a toddler and shouldn't be driving in the first place?

There are lots of irresponsible TV programmes.

11Plustrauma Wed 06-Feb-13 21:18:32

<smiles winningly at countrykitten>

grin

VivaLeBeaver Wed 06-Feb-13 21:42:24

Shag clarkson.
Marry may
Push hamster off a cliff

VivaLeBeaver Wed 06-Feb-13 21:43:26

Someone should tweet them a link to this thread! grin

11Plustrauma Wed 06-Feb-13 21:47:59

grin Come over here into my web Richard mwah mwah mwah

Sparklingbrook Wed 06-Feb-13 21:52:18

OOh Jenai get you and your 'special area'. grin

LtEveDallas Wed 06-Feb-13 22:04:39

Irritatingly, since DH started buying the Sunday Express I've had to take off my Richard Hammond is shaggable badge as his wife writes a column that is actually really very good. I like her dammit, so now I can't shag her husband angry

I loved the Vietnam challenge and the one where they drove the worlds most dangerous road? I had to watch that from behind a cushion.

EdwardTaylor Thu 07-Feb-13 19:15:59

Firstly, "entertainment" programmes can still be factual.
Top Gear was always a "documentary programme. The car reviews have loads of detail on fittings, etc. There is a "news" section. Presumably there are "facts" in there.
Not every viewer is a sophisticated as all MN posters.
Even if it is faked - that's not really the point. It's presented as a documentary prog. and the presenters are SEEN to do bad things. (Would it be okay to show Ckarkson beating his wife - even if it was faked and staged "humorously" ? )

Are we meant to believe they close the roads every time someone squeals their tyres pulling away at a roundabout? - So all the cars we can see in the background are hired and driven by "extras" employed for the purpose? I don't think so. That would be a ridiculous expense and inconvenience for locals for very little "entertainment" value !

countrykitten Thu 07-Feb-13 19:48:39

FFS - TG now being compared to wife beating!! ET you are a muppet of the first order...and as for MN posters being sophisticated viewers, er you've proved that to be nonsense with your ridiculous post!

countrykitten Thu 07-Feb-13 19:49:37

And it is quite patently NOT marketed as a documentary.

JenaiMorris Thu 07-Feb-13 20:28:38

Top Gear was more of a consumer show about 15 years ago, much like 5th Gear is now, although it was often pretty silly back then, too.

It has never been a documentary.

Oh and I fail to see the similarity between ostentatious wheel spinning and domestic abuse confused

Hulababy Thu 07-Feb-13 20:45:38

Meh! We watch it here as a family. It's entertainment not a serious road safety documentary.

Hulababy Thu 07-Feb-13 20:47:12

I don't think Top Gear has ever been described as a documentary. It's always just been light entertainment, in the past it has a few mor eserious bits, but mostly it's just fun.

ComposHat Thu 07-Feb-13 21:12:24

Well if we keep our fingers crossed one of those wankstains will over estimate their driving ability andin the course of one of their reckless manouevers impail themselves on a lampost and their Ferrari SmallDick GTi or whatever it is they are driving bursts into flames.

It's just a joke, like the ones they do on Top Gear. (c)

(c) Stewart lee

JenaiMorris Thu 07-Feb-13 21:22:21

Oohh I do love Stewart Lee grin

And Ferraris.

Once again I'm confused!

edam Thu 07-Feb-13 21:30:49

Edward, I really think you need to look up the definition of 'documentary' because Top Gear clearly is not and never has pretended to be one. Perhaps you mean 'factual'?

It's entertainment, it's silly, incredibly amusing and daft. I loved the episode where they got the then roads minister on and he had the max. no. of points on his licence (is it 9) before you get a ban, while Clarkson had none?

ComposHat Fri 08-Feb-13 02:46:38

If it were up to me I'd make the next show the last episode, put Hammond & Clarkson in a caravan, set light to it and fire it from a trebuchet into the North Sea

Agreed and congratulations on the use of trebuchet, (one of my favourite words!)

I love Top Gear. Not sure I would do any of them though, but they would be fun to keep as pets.

It's a light entertainment show based around cars and for me it is highly entertaining. TV has some shocking things on, especially in soaps, that concern me. The antics in Top Gear are not in that category.

AngelAtTheTopOfTheTree Fri 08-Feb-13 04:26:32

I actually did once pull into the school car park (which was empty) and do a handbrake turn. The caretaker congratulated me blush lol lol lol!!!!!!

MrsReiver Fri 08-Feb-13 09:05:41

It's presented as a documentary prog

Are we watching the same thing? By no stretch of the imagination is it presented as a documentary.

My 8 year old DS knows, without being told, that the stunts are faked - example, watching James May "crash" a caravan air ship, he turns to me and says "I wonder how they got them (air traffic control) to agree to do that Mum?" How sophisticated does that make him?

mrsjay Fri 08-Feb-13 09:18:42

top gear isn't really a serious car and driving show it is 3 blokes being blokey with cars Im sure nobody copies what they see on Top gear my dh and dd1 love Top gear and laugh at it it is an entertainment programme imo

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