To think that if this daft woman on the telly could 'feel' that she was standing on Richard III's grave...

(132 Posts)
IAmLouisWalsh Mon 04-Feb-13 21:13:16

Then they should have just dug under her feet?

I'd have dropped her in the hole once I'd got him out

edam Mon 04-Feb-13 21:15:51

Yeah but turns out she was right so she has the last laugh!

Smudging Mon 04-Feb-13 21:22:19

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Uppatreecuppatea Mon 04-Feb-13 21:22:26

You are being completely unreasonable!

She had a passion for the subject and researched it with a rare obsession. She visited the car park, yes, and got a "feeling" which she pursued relentlessly for three years. She backed up her feelings with facts and then managed to get so many institutions on board and achieved something heroic in her efforts.

What she has achieved is historic and owes to her years of dedication.

No offence, but what have you done to compare to that?

She should be greatly admired. Good grief!

IAmLouisWalsh Mon 04-Feb-13 21:24:40

Ah, I know all that. But she is getting on my tits grin

Smudging Mon 04-Feb-13 21:24:41

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IAmLouisWalsh Mon 04-Feb-13 21:25:36

Hey, you. I am Louis Walsh. Really...grin

Uppatreecuppatea Mon 04-Feb-13 21:27:13

Ok - fair enough!
Can't argue with someone getting on yr tits!

LessMissAbs Mon 04-Feb-13 21:27:24

YANBU. The reactions are all a bit fake.

SuzysZoo Mon 04-Feb-13 21:43:40

It's great but it is a lot like a Victoria Wood spoof - especially the bit about the flag!

RedPencils Mon 04-Feb-13 21:46:27

I thought she was a bit of a crackpot, but she was completely right.

IAmLouisWalsh Mon 04-Feb-13 21:46:53

YY suzyszoo. Totally Victoria Wood!

DeWe Mon 04-Feb-13 21:56:12

What she didn't tell you she had had "the feeling she was standing etc" 20 times in 20 different places before...

She's getting on my tits too.

RustyBear Mon 04-Feb-13 22:02:41

But she was also totally convinced he had no deformity...

mine too!
she is a drama llama

Loving the programme though, am gripped...

HazeltheMcWitch Mon 04-Feb-13 22:05:24

Oh, that flag bit! I loved that it was all nylon-y and shiny.

Quelle surprise that she's a screenwriter. Bloody dram llama. Agree that there will have been 20 spots she's stood on, where she knew the bones lay.

That said - fair play!

Andthentherewere5 Mon 04-Feb-13 22:05:40

I love the reaction of the female scientist (the young one with glasses). She is really trying to keep her face straight but you can tell she thinks the Richard society women is nuts!

Enfyshedd Mon 04-Feb-13 22:06:14

All of the society members that were Skyped were convinced he had no deformity as well.

IAmLouisWalsh Mon 04-Feb-13 22:07:39

DH has just said 'for god's sake, don't leave her on her own with those bones!' grin

Ha ha yy to the spoof comment!

The bit where she leaves the room and they're all speechless and trying not to laugh, straight out of a scene like the Office!

SuzysZoo Mon 04-Feb-13 22:08:44

PML at the bit where she has just seen the skeleton! Soooo funny.

MN044 Mon 04-Feb-13 22:09:51

It's like she's spent so long romanticising the whole thing, she just cannot deal with the reality of it. Very uncomfortable viewing actually. A real shame as well, this should be a great programme and I'm just distracted by Stupid Death in his jumper and a loony woman in denial. I can't wait for a proper documentary on it.

JamieandtheMagicTorch Mon 04-Feb-13 22:11:40

Some of the best people are strangely obsessive.

JamieandtheMagicTorch Mon 04-Feb-13 22:12:37

KathynReichs should come and have a look at the bones. That osteologist has no romance in her soul

carabos Mon 04-Feb-13 22:13:18

It's riveting though isn't it? Agree she (and a lot of the other "richardians") are a bit lunatic fringe, but they are harmless and it's a stunningly important discovery.

Agree about the academics chewing their cheeks to stop snorting with laughter though grin.

Ooh yes Jamie, I was thinking about Bones at that point too and hoping that David Boreanaz would replace Stupid Death.

RedPencils Mon 04-Feb-13 22:15:08

What's the big deal about his spine? Why are they so up in arms about it?

manicbmc Mon 04-Feb-13 22:15:18

She is a little bit 'full on'. hmm

JamieandtheMagicTorch Mon 04-Feb-13 22:17:36

Redpencils

I think it is because the richard rehabilitators were very wedded to the idea that his deformity was made up, in order to slander him.

Hopefully Mon 04-Feb-13 22:17:43

They really needed to involve her less to make this a good documentary.

SuzysZoo Mon 04-Feb-13 22:17:58

I thought she was going to crawl into the grave with him at the start! i am stunned people (richardians) are so bothered about it. It's interesting, but who cares really if he was/wasn't bad etc!?

Can't wait to see the reconstructed face!

Oh yes, yes, me too, she is majorly getting on my tits.

But fair play to her an' all that <<grudgingly>>

It takes mildly obsessive personalities to see something like this through. I'd be too lazy easily distracted grin

JamieandtheMagicTorch Mon 04-Feb-13 22:18:45

How do the facial reconstructore know how much muscle and fat someone has on their face? Surely it varies?

I'm not sure. Re the fat, I guess they'd account for their diet at the time (marine fish as we now know!). No idea about the muscles though - would they not just follow the lines of the scull? <clueless emoticon>

and lifestyle...busy king fighting lots and burning a lot of calories!

JamieandtheMagicTorch Mon 04-Feb-13 22:23:34

Spose so!

DH has said, that conveniently next to the car park is a disused school. Visitor centre to go there? Jorvik centre-ish, smells and all that.

Every muscle attaches to the bones, the strength of the muscle (which indicates the size if the muscle) can be estimated by how 'distinct' the attachment points are - i.e. how much the muscle pulled on the bone when it as being used. The fat on top is probably pretty evenly spread.

JamieandtheMagicTorch Mon 04-Feb-13 22:24:38

Thankyou Whereyouleftit

Bet osteolady felt a bit embarrassed about making a bloody great hole with her pickaxe

Ah, that sounds a lot more scientific Whereyou grin

TomArchersSausage Mon 04-Feb-13 22:26:59

She was right but.... crying? confused

HazeltheMcWitch Mon 04-Feb-13 22:30:24

JamieandtheMagicTorch - Leicester Council has already bought that building. £850k IIRC... It'll be the new visitor centre, and it's handy for the cathedral also.

FriendofDorothy Mon 04-Feb-13 22:30:51

Richard III woman is just bonkers. The flag thing really made me giggle and I so can imagine this being a Victoria Wood take-off!

JamieandtheMagicTorch Mon 04-Feb-13 22:31:01

Actually, i can see that it would be moving to see a skelton, full stop, let alone one of someone you'd researched so exhaustively. We are a bit removed cos we see fake skeltons all the time on telly. Must be different in reality

JamieandtheMagicTorch Mon 04-Feb-13 22:31:21

Skeleton

TomArchersSausage Mon 04-Feb-13 22:32:50

Stabbed in the arse? <stupid deaths>

SuzysZoo Mon 04-Feb-13 22:34:30

She doesn't look too impressed TBH! (at the head)

JamieandtheMagicTorch Mon 04-Feb-13 22:35:11

It is amzing really. Amazing to have found exactly what they were looking for

"He doesn't look like a tyrant."

Umm - there's a 'look'?

JamieandtheMagicTorch Mon 04-Feb-13 22:36:00

Tomgrin

IAmLouisWalsh Mon 04-Feb-13 22:36:49

Well, that's an hour and a half I'll never get back....

JamieandtheMagicTorch Mon 04-Feb-13 22:41:55

DH reckons it wasn't your run of the mill doc, possibly commisioned and choice of presenter and focus on Philippa, based on the fact that no- one really expected it to turn out like this

crunchbag Mon 04-Feb-13 22:44:37

She provided entertainment and now I can't get the stupid deaths song out of my head grin

edam Mon 04-Feb-13 22:48:52

I coudn't stop humming '..they're stupid 'coz they're true' all the way through that.

Agree, Jamie, not too many resources thrown at the film upfront because it must have looked so unlikely to come off. But that made it better IMO, we woudn't have had Stupid Deaths doing the presenting if it had been taken terribly seriously. I do like Tony Robinson but it was soooo much more amusing to have Simon 'Stupid Deaths' doing it. Wonder how he got involved? (I missed the first five minutes.)

Bogeyface Mon 04-Feb-13 22:51:11

I came on here to post

AIBU to think she is a bit doodles to have a crush on a man that has been dead over 500 years?!

She was a bit batty wasnt she?

I am glad it turned out to be him, as it will be great from a historical pov, putting to rest some rumours and confirming others. But the fact that she was practically in tears at the thought that he had a scoliosis after spending years telling everyone he didnt was a bit ott! "I see a living breathing man...." really? !

SomeBear Mon 04-Feb-13 22:51:53

It was the ceremonial wrapping in a flag followed by the unceremonial stuffing of the box into the back of a van that made me laugh! She did seem to behave like he was a close personal friend rather than a long-dead monarch. Very interesting programme though.

Bogeyface Mon 04-Feb-13 22:55:27

The "He doesnt look like a tyrant" got me too. And fwiw, I think he did kill the princes in the tower, or had them killed, just because he was made into a bad guy by the tudors doesnt actually mean that he wasnt!

TomArchersSausage Mon 04-Feb-13 22:55:57

Lol yes that chap carrying the box - it was all a bit Chuckle Brothers, To Me To You. Trying to come up with something reverential in the car park, then shoved in the back next to the wellies.

Pixel Mon 04-Feb-13 23:04:38

It wasn't even a nice flag. Probably came from The Tower gift shop bargain bin.

kim147 Mon 04-Feb-13 23:05:54

I love the way the orotologist (?) Jo - reacted when asked to put the standard on.

Interesting jobs though - forensic archeology. Love the fact you can analyse DNA that's 100s of years old.

louisianablue2000 Mon 04-Feb-13 23:14:10

I found the format rather annoying and wished it was more of a Time Team special with more focus on the archaeology and less on the woman who came across as a bit bonkers. It would have been interesting even if it hdn't been Richard.

Clytaemnestra Mon 04-Feb-13 23:15:25

So he lost the battle, lost his kingdom had huge holes knocked in his head, thrown naked over a horse, stabbed in the backside, tied up and shoved into a hasty unmarked grave, then deserted for 500 years until people started parking on his head.

I'm sure the crappy polyester flag made it all better.

Bogeyface Mon 04-Feb-13 23:28:25

I want to know what will happen to him now. Has he had or will he get a burial in Westminster as other monarchs have or not because he may have killed the rightful heirs?

What happens afterwards interests me just as much!

BupcakesAndCunting Mon 04-Feb-13 23:33:40

I am crying here! Is it real?! Or is this all an elaborate Chris Morris set up?

"Very uncomfortable viewing actually. A real shame as well, this should be a great programme and I'm just distracted by Stupid Death in his jumper and a loony woman in denial"

This.

Stupid Deaths man has made this bearable. Phillipa is probably trying to make arrangements to marry the skeleton. She is bonkers! The crappy flag bit was ace.

BupcakesAndCunting Mon 04-Feb-13 23:34:28

I am watching on +1... she is at the unveiling of the head.... does she tongue it?

kim147 Mon 04-Feb-13 23:35:36

Should Stupid Death man have got into role?

Stupid death, stupid death

But did he die stupidly?

Bogeyface Mon 04-Feb-13 23:37:03

Just read that he will be interred in Leicester Cathedral, and Mrs Richard III is adamant that he did not kill the princes.....so what happened to them?

Bogeyface Mon 04-Feb-13 23:40:12

gringrin

H just saw on FB that "Prince Charles" has twittered that "one will have to sell France in order to pay Great Uncle Richards parking fines" grin

BupcakesAndCunting Mon 04-Feb-13 23:40:39

He got stabbed in the butts sad

What does this mean for Liz and the clan? Di was a Plantagenet descendant. Therefore Wills and Harry are descendants of Tricky Dicky. Does this mean they can pass Go and push nan off the throne?

OOOOOH SPOOKY two princes... more right to throne than current occupant... if anything happens to them boys...

Bogeyface Mon 04-Feb-13 23:44:18

Bups, he got stabbed in the arse after he was killed, part of the humiliation of being beaten.

Bogeyface Mon 04-Feb-13 23:45:50

Arent they also descendants of the Tudor house too so they have a claim from both sides?

BupcakesAndCunting Mon 04-Feb-13 23:57:46

sad sad sad

Poor Rich sad

They are Tudor descendants too yes, I think. <strokes chin> What does it mean? Where is David Starkey when you need him?

Bogeyface Mon 04-Feb-13 23:59:30

It means dont let Uncle Andy have a key to the Tower wink

kim147 Tue 05-Feb-13 00:01:19

Come the revolution grin

<Am I allowed to say that? Is MI5 watching?>

Bogeyface Tue 05-Feb-13 00:06:29

Hope not Kim, I am waiting for our Glorious Revolution too!

fishcalledwonder Tue 05-Feb-13 00:14:05

Just finished watching it. They should have had a 'press the red button if you want to edit out the scary king stalker' option. Could have been an amazing documentary without her quivering lip.

HazeltheMcWitch Tue 05-Feb-13 00:39:20

<wishes Clytaemnestra would have taught me history like that!>

Alisvolatpropiis Tue 05-Feb-13 00:56:51

I found the whole documentary very unsatisfactory really. And that woman was barking.

The way she was looking at the reconstructed face made me think she'd be running off with it at the first opportunity. To put on a mannequin so she can have photos done of them together with her wearing a wedding dress.

DioneTheDiabolist Tue 05-Feb-13 01:08:36

YABsooooU.

She put the research in. She went with her gut. She invested her time and her money in this. Is it any wonder she is totally excited that all that has paid off?

Blame the editor if you didn't like the programme. But don't blame this dedicated, intelligent woman.angry

whysorude Tue 05-Feb-13 01:14:38

As an archaeologist I found this rather fascinating. [strokes non-existant beard]

And it would appear that X does not mark the spot - but rather R.

But she didn't come across as excited, she came across as unhinged!

JakeBullet Tue 05-Feb-13 06:08:42

For me it was summed up best by one of the archaeologists. "First find, in the first trench on the first day".... and under a parking space with the letter "R" on it. I mean how absolutely amazing is that?

Phillips became a source of irritation and laughter here but to be fair she has obviously dedicated loads of time, research and no doubt some of her own money to this and has enabled the find of the century so far. All kudos to her for that but am loving the description of her further back as a "drama llama"... totally agree.

GilmoursPillow Tue 05-Feb-13 06:15:07

Where have you all been watching this? I'm not in the UK so have only read about her. I feel I am missing out.

Salteena Tue 05-Feb-13 06:56:14

Yes, she undoubtedly put in time, effort and research, but it's still a pity that they ended up with a fairly risible documentary thanks to her lip-quivering performance.

I mean, this is an amazing archaeological find of huge historical importance. But the programme was history-lite - I expected it to be at least a Time Team special, which would have had some proper, enthusiastic but professional experts to explain it all.

Instead we got someone who 'knew' where the grave was because she got shivers down her spine when she walked over it. Which must have been pretty galling for all the dedicated archaeologists who have degrees, who've slaved on digs in all weathers for years, and have devoted their lives to their jobs. I don't suppose they feel any less 'passionate' about their discipline than Philippa L does; they just go about it in a more controlled way!

Also, given the number of experts who get roped in on Time Team, I suspect that the pinpointing of the grave site was rather less Philippa's sole discovery than the prog let on. I bet there was far more research from many more people before they got to the point of actually starting - but again, the prog glossed over all those minor details hmm

Having said all which, I still watched it to the end gritting my teeth whenever PL came on

What are the references to Stupid Death Man about?

TandB Tue 05-Feb-13 08:02:54

I'm a bit confused by why this is all over the news right now as though it is a new story - I heard a radio program weeks ago where they said they already knew it was Richard III but weren't formally announcing it because they wanted to tie in with the program.

FrankellyMyDearIDontGiveADamn Tue 05-Feb-13 08:11:38

I think they said previously that they were pretty sure it was Richard III, but they had to go through the DNA/carbon dating tests to be completely certain.

FlamesOnTheSideOfMyFace Tue 05-Feb-13 08:25:11

You couldn't have time team do it shock - there is no way they would find exactly what they were looking for on the first day!

It would take them three days to find a 1" square bit of tile and then they'd go off for a drink to celebrate grin and i love time team

firesidechat Tue 05-Feb-13 08:25:42

I was really looking forward to this programme, but the woman sort of spoilt it for me. I know there wouldn't have been a story without her and it wasn't her fault that she was slightly irritating, but kept wanting to tell her to "get a grip".

AIBU to wish that the BBC had done the programme instead. It was watchable but a bit lightweight in style for me.

badtemperedaldbitch Tue 05-Feb-13 08:26:32

it made me laugh out loud... and i did think that it was a spoof in parts...especially the part with the flag.

the bones lady snorted on at least a couple of occasions and i found my seld identifying with her much more than Phipplipa.

Great viewing... the most entertaining thing i've seen on tv for ages

badtemperedaldbitch Tue 05-Feb-13 08:27:02

i didnt get who the bloke with the curly hair was either

FlamesOnTheSideOfMyFace Tue 05-Feb-13 08:27:52

She was bonkers wasn't she - but given that her and her cronies were mostly funding the dig the archaeologists had to keep their traps shut ... like the bit at the beginning of Jurassic Park where he flies in with his helicopter.

Agree at the beginning the documentary makers weren't expecting her to be right (and were prob planning to make a doc about a mad obsessed lady) - so it's nice that she was right for that reason also.

Cornycabernet Tue 05-Feb-13 08:31:50

I loved the bones lady and her patient pained expression - reminds me of a weary mother trying not to get cross with their toddler.

firesidechat Tue 05-Feb-13 08:37:46

I loved the bones lady and her patient pained expression - reminds me of a weary mother trying not to get cross with their toddler.

This^

Jo was excellent and could have done with more of her - a slightly cynical, rational scientist. Much more interesting to watch than the loony woman. I could have cheered when she refused to have anything to do with draping the wretched flag.

It was very funny when they proceded to put the box in a messy work van like it was a toolbox, rather than a dead body. Slightly ruined the point of the shiny flag.

senua Tue 05-Feb-13 08:48:02

Also, given the number of experts who get roped in on Time Team, I suspect that the pinpointing of the grave site was rather less Philippa's sole discovery than the prog let on. I bet there was far more research from many more people before they got to the point of actually starting - but again, the prog glossed over all those minor details

Er, no they didn't. They said that Phillipa had her 'feeling' about the spot. They said that historians did proper research. And they said that the two co-incided, happily.

Clytaemnestra Tue 05-Feb-13 09:08:35

To be fair, there must have been a large amount of research and evidence as they don't generally let a mad woman with a digger just start digging up car parks as she has a funny feeling.

Channel 4 might well have done a bit of stitching up as well. The chuckle brothers style of music in the background wasn't really helping the whole flag fiasco.

BupcakesAndCunting Tue 05-Feb-13 09:14:35

"It means dont let Uncle Andy have a key to the Tower"

Arf!

Awww, no-one is doubting the hard work/money Phillipa put in and I like to see a person enthused about their thing as much as the next person. But come on, the flag was hilarious! And her face when she saw the reconstructed head. Bless her.

BupcakesAndCunting Tue 05-Feb-13 09:25:35

And Stupid Deaths man was the man who does Stupid Deaths on Horrible Histories.

He was great! I love Horrible Histories.

HazeltheMcWitch Tue 05-Feb-13 10:16:56

GilmoursPillow Tue 05-Feb-13 06:15:07
Where have you all been watching this? I'm not in the UK so have only read about her. I feel I am missing out.

Er, no two ways about it. You did miss out sad. It was.... immense.
The prog was called 'Richard III: The King In The Carpark', and it aired last night on UK Channel 4 at 9pm. Do get it on 4oD if you can sneak it that way. Whet your appetite here

Featuring Mad Lady, Curly-HAired man who sings songs about history on kids' tv, and (sane) Bones Lady.

I have just set up to record it when it re-airs on 4seven tonight at 9pm ... grin

GilmoursPillow Tue 05-Feb-13 10:37:46

Oooh, I can! Thank you so much Hazel grin

GilmoursPillow Tue 05-Feb-13 12:39:18

Oh you utter bastards, you've ruined it for me grin

Had I not read all your comments about the grieving widow choosing a femur for a dildo I may have been able to see her as someone very passionate about her chosen cause who has had a lot of time and effort realised, and appreciated the huge historical significance it really has.

BupcakesAndCunting Tue 05-Feb-13 12:51:20

No, No you wouldn't have, Gilmour.

I was watching last night and thought "she wants to marry the skeleton. She is barking. I wonder if anyone on MN is thinking the same...."

grin

GilmoursPillow Tue 05-Feb-13 12:53:47

PMSL!! She is in lurve isn't she?

I wonder if she thinks she was Anne Neville in a previous life.

Bunnygotwhacked Tue 05-Feb-13 12:55:45

what is 4seven is it on freeview tried getting it to work on 4od but our internet is having a hard time at moment.
I felt quite sorry for stupid death guy as he clearly didn't know how to do with this loony woman who kept crying. Loved the bones woman when the flag came out you could see her thinking "oh ffs really?"

GilmoursPillow Tue 05-Feb-13 13:02:32

Mine keeps stopping and starting. I'm going to be here all night at this rate.

I have to say though, I am finding it interesting. I only finished reading The Kingmaker's Daughter last week.

munchkinmaster Tue 05-Feb-13 13:13:15

'ehhm, that's not an old hole.'

GilmoursPillow Tue 05-Feb-13 13:16:29

There's a Dutch woman who belongs to the Richard III group thingy who's completely barking! shock

Bunnygotwhacked yes channel 4seven is on freeview, it repeats programmes from 4 channels in the week after they were first broadcast.

ConferencePear Tue 05-Feb-13 13:32:22

I think the whole programme was a bit of an insult to trained archaeologists knowledge and expertise. They have known for ages where Greyfriars used to be and they were aware that written accounts said where he was buried.
I am willing to bet they did a geophysical survey before they started. So it wasn't so much of a surprise that they found him quickly.

Salteena wrote "I mean, this is an amazing archaeological find of huge historical importance.

I can't see what the historical importance is. The things that we would really like to know about him like "Did he kill his nephews ?" can't be answered by archaeology. I just don't get the fuss.

HazeltheMcWitch Tue 05-Feb-13 13:46:26

Historical Importance? Um, try - the first kingly skelington to be encased in cardboard, draped in shiny nylon and shoved in a Transit.
There will be stamps made, commemorating that moment.

munchkinmaster Tue 05-Feb-13 13:51:07

'ehhm, that's not an old hole.'

GreatUncleEddie Tue 05-Feb-13 13:51:14

She was bonkers, bless her, wasn't she. I had to keep reminding myself that the amazing discovery wouldn't have happened without her (that is true, isn't it?)

ConferencePear Tue 05-Feb-13 14:00:32

It is true to say that archaeology is seriously underfunded.

whathellcall Tue 05-Feb-13 15:18:49

Stabbed in the arse grin

TomArchersSausage Tue 05-Feb-13 16:02:59

Hope next time it's not you..grin

whathellcall Tue 05-Feb-13 16:49:55

<sings stupid death stupid death> grin

I was so excited about this programme, then I saw it.
Couldn't they have edited out the cringe factor? Surely they must have had SOME footage that showed Phillipa looking rational. Surely.

Pigsmummy Tue 05-Feb-13 17:04:57

She did come across as a bit mad but she was spot on, she has talents and interests that I don't get excited about but good luck to her I say. I thought she was going to combust/have an orgasm/pass out at one point but as I say, fair play to her, leave her alone.

fuzzpig Tue 05-Feb-13 17:13:35

I haven't watched it myself (yet - am quite intrigued although not a history fan) but my colleague was saying she thought it was a docudrama/spoof thing when she watched it because the reactions/emotions were so extreme!

LeeCoakley Tue 05-Feb-13 17:28:28

If you read about the dig on the Richard iii society pages it goes into detail about her dream, the funding and also how the archaeologists dug in other places and found other things on site. I found the programme too lightweight and Stupid Death unwatchable especially when the nail gun gag went on for FAR too long <cringe>. When he held up his camera that had a picture of Michael on it next to a painting of Richard and talked about a likeness, it was time to shoot him.

GilmoursPillow Tue 05-Feb-13 17:30:50

"It's really difficult <sniff> seeing him <weepy, breathy sniff> laid out like this"
That's not right, is it?

If I had done a huge amount of research on a famous character and actually FOUND his bones I would be in tears too. I'd be hopping around with excitement and be so overwhelmed that I'd found a KING OF FUCKING ENGLAND FFS that I'd be like an over-excited two year old.

However, I wouldn't be (almost) donning a black veil and almost begging the scientists to tell me that his hunched back would hardly be noticeable.

I do like that Jo lady grin

LeeCoakley Tue 05-Feb-13 17:36:17

It was her utter disappointment on seeing the skeleton and the curved spine and being told he had scoliosis (sp?) that was ridiculous. The experts had to spend the next 10 minutes convincing her that it was a GOOD thing and that' 'really, you wouldn't notice it with his clothes on' shock Like she was child that needed placating after being told Santa wasn't real. God save us.

LeeCoakley Tue 05-Feb-13 17:37:00

Ha! Crossed posts!

Cornycabernet Tue 05-Feb-13 17:37:44

The irony of her setting out to disprove the myth of the curved spine and actually doing the opposite!

FlamesOnTheSideOfMyFace Tue 05-Feb-13 17:41:58

I liked her!
Grey haired camp bloke was almost as bonkers but didn't get half the exposure typical

GilmoursPillow Tue 05-Feb-13 17:44:37

I liked Grey Haired Camp Bloke too!

I love the way you can almost see Jo muttering "Oh, for fuck's sake" under her breath.

Lee grin

munchkinmaster Tue 05-Feb-13 19:38:43

The scoliosis but was ridiculous - I imagine that's the kind way that doctor breaks the news about scoliosis to anxious patients or those concerned about their loved ones - not to crazy cat ladys about long dead geezers they'd never met

TomArchersSausage Tue 05-Feb-13 20:00:39

Apparantly there was a white 'R' painted on the ground in the carpark which hinted at the grave but it turned out to mean 'Reserved'.

Lolgrin

Pixel Tue 05-Feb-13 20:27:39

If it had said "parking" they could have found him under the bit that said "king". smile

grin

I was not going to watch the progam on 4oD seeing that I already know how it ends, but having just caught up on this thread, I must. I feel I'd missed out if I did not see Mad Lady, and Curly-Haired Man and Bones Lady.

<<off she pops>>

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