to think whitening toothpastes damage your teeth?

(37 Posts)
RattyRoland Sat 02-Feb-13 22:32:52

Well they seem to take the enamel off mine anyway, but the toothpaste aisle is bloody full of them. Surely it's better to have clean teeth than white ones falling out? and don't the celebs with their dazzling illuminous white teeth look a bit stupid

FaffTastic Sat 02-Feb-13 22:34:51

My dentist told me that they are more abrasive on the teeth and can wear down enamel.

I'm not sure tbh that whitening toothpastes actually make people's teeth that much whiter anyway get mine bleached

MerlotAndMe Sat 02-Feb-13 22:35:06

Dentisy told me my enamel thin so i avoid them. get teeth cleaned once a year. but tom cruise teeth i do NOT have :-/

KC225 Sun 03-Feb-13 01:49:56

I have my teeth zapped with a laser to get them pearly white - why I don't know. I don't smoke, drink red wine or tea or coffee. It barely made any difference and cost a fortune (pre kids) but worst of all it made my teeth really sensitive and those whitening toothpastes make it worse. My new dentist told me if you want Hollywood white smile - veneers

EmmaBemma Sun 03-Feb-13 07:42:59

I really think this thread must win some sort of prize for the least controversial and dullest AIBU ever. Whatever next. "AIBU to think that fridges keep your food cold?"

bellejar Sun 03-Feb-13 08:16:19

A bit mean Emma - surely the dullest thread would be "should I have tea or coffee while watching the washing go round in the washing machine"

Or "should I wear 10 or 15 denier at work today"?

And yet it still grabbed you enough to read it and post Emma, what does that say about you/your day? grin

chocoluvva Sun 03-Feb-13 13:41:17

I hate it when posters say nothing more than, 'How Boring' too. If you're bored just don't post at all. Saying something is boring is boring to read.

Some of the whitening toothpastes claim to be gentle, which would imply that others aren't therefore it's probably wise to pick the former - though whether they're as effective as the abrasive ones is another matter.

chocoluvva Sun 03-Feb-13 13:41:46

Saying a thread is boring is just rude.

chocoluvva Sun 03-Feb-13 13:42:24

It's not witty or funny - sorry to rant, but it's one of my MN pet hates.

mrsjay Sun 03-Feb-13 13:58:31

I have hardly any enamel due to medicine when i was a teen I used whitening toothpaste last year gave me raging toothache YANBU

chocoluvva Sun 03-Feb-13 14:42:11

Celebs with very white teeth do look very unnatural.

I'm jealous though as my teeth are healthy but yellow envy.

GrowSomeCress Sun 03-Feb-13 14:43:21

My teeth are very yellow but I'm scared to use anything for whitening because of all the horror stories sad

mrsjay Sun 03-Feb-13 14:45:03

celebs with realy really white teeth blind you and they also paid for them they are not real teeth

I'm a dentist. If you want whiter teeth go to a dentist, have impressions taken for custom made moulds of your teeth and use the whitening gel from your dentist. Make sure you seen a hygienist first as you cannot whiten over calculus and stains.

No whitening toothpaste, or any whitening products you can buy in a chemist will work. Never get your teeth whitened by anyone who isn't a dentist/hygienist/dental therapist. It is illegal and the GDC are cracking down on those who do provide it.

JamieandtheMagicTorch Sun 03-Feb-13 15:34:55


So they don't work, but are they damaging to the tooth enamel?

I have started using OralB Pro-Expert, which the dentist gave my DSs as a smaple. Amongst other things, it claims to whiten. Is it damaging? FWIW. I think it makes my teeth feel cleaner, and is satisfyingly medicinal-tasting


JamieandtheMagicTorch Sun 03-Feb-13 15:35:09


Naysa Sun 03-Feb-13 15:41:23

YANBU but then again so do soft drinks, fruits, you name it, it's wrecking your teeth

Lovelygoldboots Sun 03-Feb-13 16:06:55

It's your gums that need to be taken care of. Mine are knack erred, I'm so miserable, have raging toothache and am on antibiotics and due to have an extraction. I would be really happy with a healthy yellow smile.

MerlotAndMe Sun 03-Feb-13 16:43:00

I use pro-enamel sensodyne and floss. But I learnt the hard way. I had my teeth cleaned a few years ago and it was agony. the sensitivity!!! omg.
then i had root planing and scaling top and bottom at the perio (800 euro) thank you, will remember to floss now.

DontEvenThinkAboutIt Sun 03-Feb-13 16:43:14

I had my teeth whitened twice, once by a dentist (overseas so cheap!) once by a local teeth whitening place. Both times it looked great and didn't cause any discomfort at all.
I can't stand Hollywood smiles though. They look so fake. I don't smoke and my teeth are naturally fairly white so I don't need the whitening gel on for long.

MerlotAndMe Sun 03-Feb-13 16:45:09

lovelygoldboots, have you been to a periodontist. that's like a dentist for gums but more expensive it's only fair to warn you. smile. still, i'm relieved that i'm being monitored. I feel like it's serious. I want to be sent reminders by my perio every six months. I 'm a reformed character now.

Want2bSupermum Sun 03-Feb-13 16:48:44

White strips are used by a lot of people here in the US. When I asked my dentist about them he said that if you get your teeth cleaned twice a year and have a somewhat healthy diet you shouldn't need to use them. Our dental insurance covers one visit and he charges $40 for the 2nd visit. Works for me and is cheaper than buying special pastes etc.

Lovelygoldboots Sun 03-Feb-13 16:51:58

I have an NHs dentist merlot and will ask him about that when I go. He cleaned my teeth recently and they looked amazing. It's my own fault for not flossing properly. Now have a waterpik and that is ace. The extraction is one he did a deep filling on which has become infected. I hope I can keep hold of my teeth, but years of drinking too much red wine and eating sweets have taken their toll on my 42 year old gums. I am also reformed but I think it is probably too little late. Would a perio do more. What is root planing?

Want2bSupermum Sun 03-Feb-13 16:53:08

Lovely You should def look into seeing a periodontist. Our dentist sent DH to one and he hasn't had any problems with his teeth since.

Here in the US the periodontist was covered by our health insurance and wasn't considered dental treatment (gum disease is linked to a lot of different diseases). It might be worth finding out if you can get treatment on the NHS.

specialsubject Sun 03-Feb-13 16:53:53

whitening toothpastes are right up there with anti wrinkle creams - they do absolutely NOTHING.

dentists can whiten teeth, if you don't mind them being weakened. Enjoy your soup - or failing that, remember that the Hollywood teeth are false, crowns or photoshopped.

Lovelygoldboots Sun 03-Feb-13 16:56:50

Thanks want2b for the advice and merlot for the advice.

Losingexcessweight Sun 03-Feb-13 17:00:56

I went on a course about 3 years ago on dental hygiene in the care sector. The course was run by a denist who did say that whitening toothpastes do strip your teeth of its enamel.

And also if you have your teeth professionally whitened, and then use whitening toothpaste, all your doing is stripping away the professional whitening treatment that you ve paid hundreds of pounds for.

drizzlecake Sun 03-Feb-13 17:02:47

I tried hydrogen peroxde mixed with baking soda and peppermint essence (recipe from internet). Brush teeth with it and try to leave it on teeth a while. Seemed to improve colour. waiting from horror response from akissisnotacontract grin

Darkesteyes Sun 03-Feb-13 17:37:15

oh bollocks All ive got in at the mo is that Oral B whitening toothpaste. The one that Holly Willoughby advertises.
And i recently bought 2 more because they were on offer. Ive only been using it for a week and a half.
Going into town on Tuesday. If i switch back to Colgate sensitive akiss then i take it that should be ok.

Whitening from a dentist does not weaken teeth and using whitening toothpaste won't strip the colour if you have them professionally whitened as the bleach is absorbed right into the dentine. Having said that, whitening toothpaste is too abrasive and shouldn't be used. The latest oral b one is the worst as they have put stannous fluoride in it which is a type of fluoride that causes staining. So to counteract that they've made it more abrasive. Why not just use sodium fluoride like most other toothpaste brands?

drizzlecake it'll take more than that to shock me. I've known people to use Ajax and floor cleaner on their teeth.

Darkesteyes Sun 03-Feb-13 22:22:02

Thanks for replying AKiss. Thats awful. I will switch back to Colgate sensitive as soon as i can.
Appallingly it says on the back of the Oral B tube that it is suitable for children and to use a pea sized amount. (i know the pea size thing is general advice) but im shocked that they are saying this is ok to use on childrens teeth in light of the information youve given us AKiss.
Thankyou for your help. I will replace it on Tuesday so i will throw the Oral B one out.
Ive already thrown out the extra ones i bought. Yes they cost a fiver but id rather lose that than have to pay out hundreds of pounds to have my teeth fixed after wrecking the enamel.
I had 3 years of train track braces and retainers as a teenager so i dont want them ruined now.

Darkesteyes Sun 03-Feb-13 22:23:11

Is the colgate sensitive one ok? its the one i normally use?

Yeah Colgate is fine, as are most of the supermarket own brands. Just avoid oral b and whitening pastes. Oral make great toothbrushes, they shouldn't have bothered branching out to making toothpaste. I'm surprised it costs a fiver a tube. They've been giving us so many free samples in an effort to get us to give it out to patients so I had no idea it cost so much. All you need a toothpaste to contain is 1250-1450ppm sodium fluoride. If you can get that from a supermarket own brand then go for that.

Darkesteyes Sun 03-Feb-13 22:49:01

It was a fiver for 2 (they were on offer)
Im using an Oral B toothbrush at the mo.
Thanks for your help on this AKiss. Much appreciated. Without this info i would have probably carried on using it. I had 3 tubes altogether shock
Thanks thanks thanks

JamieandtheMagicTorch Mon 04-Feb-13 18:14:54

Thanks for that advice, AKiss.

Hobbitation Mon 04-Feb-13 18:19:28

I use toothpaste that is both whitening and for sensitive teeth. It does seem to have made a difference over time.

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